Friends Announce Pregnancy… While You're Still Waiting (Jealousy)

When your friends get pregnant… but you’re not ready yet. Taryn and Michela get brutally honest about jealousy in friendships and family — the healthy kind vs. the toxic kind that ruins relationships.

Michela shares the raw sting she feels every time someone announces a pregnancy while she’s still waiting. Taryn reveals the shocking time close friends and family made her apologize for being pregnant — and what it taught her about real jealousy.

This episode dives deep into:
• When envy becomes toxic (and when it doesn’t)
• Do you owe jealous people grace?
• At what point do you walk away from friends who can’t celebrate your wins?

Timestamps:
00:00 Obsession of the Week (Michela’s ChatGPT recipes + Taryn’s Spencer Pratt obsession)
05:40 From the Top – Michela’s personal pregnancy jealousy story
11:15 Taryn’s shocking pregnancy announcement backlash
21:40 The Conversation – Healthy vs. toxic jealousy, boundaries, and grace
31:20 Hot Take or Hard Pass
34:05 Listener Letter CTA

If you’ve ever felt that quiet sting when someone else gets what you want — or been on the receiving end of someone else’s jealousy — this episode is for you.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

My latest obsession is I'm in like a very big cooking mode right now, and I love new recipes. And instead of looking recipes up online, I work with chat a lot and my recipes come out. You're collabing? I'm collabing with chat and my recipes come out so good. Uh-huh. But also like the main reason that I've done that is because both my kids are anaphylactic to egg. And so I have to figure out like alternatives when I'm making pancakes or this or that because they can't even have anything that's processed in a facility or you know, what I'm manufactured on the same equipment. So I work with chat a lot to come up with recipes. Cool. And they're really good. And I'm just really obsessed with it. And sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night and I can't fall back asleep. And I like work with them on some recipes too.

SPEAKER_01 0:49

Okay. So like you and chat are major collabbing. Yeah. Yeah. You love chat. I love chat. Especially in like well, what's your most like what's a recipe you did recently that you really loved?

SPEAKER_00 1:00

Orange chicken. Oh, it's really good. Your orange chicken and it's healthy. Yeah. It's really good. But sometimes chat will give you the wrong advice. And I'm like, are you stupid? I actually am such a bitch to chat.

SPEAKER_01 1:10

Sometimes I'm like, you're an idiot. That's not what I asked. Yeah. I'm like, why am I get I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm getting all of my aggression out onto chat and I suddenly understand people.

SPEAKER_00 1:22

You know what? The other day I had to give my daughter medication and I wanted to know, does she have to eat before? So I typed into chat, does she need to eat or does she need to eat first before this medication? But I put accidentally, like autotyped, does she need to eat frosting? And it was like, no, she does not need to eat frosting before the medication. And I said, I meant first. And then chat goes, I don't think she needs to eat frosting first. And I'm like, are you stupid? Did you tell chat you dumb?

SPEAKER_01 1:52

Are you dumb? Yeah. Sometimes I say that to Tasha. Okay, my recent obsession, Spencer Pratt. Okay, why? Oh my god. What do you think he's gonna change? Okay, just wait. Just wait. First of all, like he's an icon. Okay. He's a he's a mastermind. If you really understand about like the hills and what he did behind it and how, you know, this opportunity he saw. He's just like he's really intelligent, honestly. I think so too. I like what he's doing, but I'm just curious to what you think. So I started following him when the fires I've been following him forever. The crystals, hummingbirds, super into it. Fucking love him. I love that kind of content. Um, but then when the fires happened, I was so engrossed in his story and it was so heartbreaking, and it was really representative of everybody in Pasadena and Al Sadena. And it was, you know, he the Palisades, you mean sorry, the Palisades and El Sedina. And he just really represented, he was this voice for so many people. Yeah. And then it's kind of like he made a citizen's arrest on the Californian government, if that makes sense. He just took it upon himself to really dive deep into all of, you know, the fraud and corruption and all the stuff that we know is going on, but we don't know what it is. But you know, where are our tax dollars going? Why are why is homelessness only increasing? Why is drug use only increasing? So he just did it by himself. And I just think his campaign is amazing. It's brilliant. And I'm living for his TikTok. And every time he's on TikTok, have you watched his TikTok?

SPEAKER_00 3:35

Have you seen? I just saw a video yesterday that was um, it was like a policeman and then like a doctor. And the doctor is like, I'm so glad I only see needles in the hospital now. And like um a woman walking her dog. Like, I'm so glad that I I know if I step in shit, it's my it's dog's shit, not human shit. Like, he's like really cleaning up, and I think that his campaign is brilliant, it's brilliant, but also his comedy.

SPEAKER_01 4:06

I mean, did you watch the debate?

SPEAKER_00 4:08

He's hilarious. Did you watch the debate? No, I didn't watch it.

SPEAKER_01 4:10

Oh my gosh, I can't laugh. He's so funny. He wrecked them. He wrecked them. And then also on his TikToks, whenever he says Karen Bass and he goes, Karen Bassurra, it sends me to a new universe. Okay. I'm like, I'll never get over it. Every time he's like, he's like has his phone here and he's like, Karen Bassurra. He is hilarious. And he's just hyper intelligent. I actually think, and I like that he's humble. He says, I'm I'm I'm humble. I know I don't know anything. I'm not a career politician. I'm gonna surround myself with the people that are gonna advise me to the best of their ability and people who are, you know, well-versed in all of these things, and I'm going to clean up the city. I don't think any of these people know what the fuck they're doing. Pardon my French, but I think he's not corrupt.

SPEAKER_00 5:06

But I think he's gonna do what he needs to do to try and get, to try and make change.

SPEAKER_01 5:10

It's a this is truly a passion for him, whereas Karen Basura, Nietzsche Rahman, what all of the other people, whatever, it's all ego. It's it's it's all a you know, a power struggle. That's all it is. Dealt with? What do you mean? It was totally corruption. No water. Karen Basura, that's all her fault. Yeah. That is all her fault. Spencer Pratt. That's my recent obsession. I think today we want to talk about jealousy, you know, how that appears in our lives. Yada yada. Um a more personal story. I I we all experience jealousy in different forms. It's very natural. It's very natural. For me and my life recently, I have been finding that it's coming up in a really specific circumstance. I'm 31. Um I really thought that I would have had either be pregnant by now or had a kid by now. Um, and I'm married. And it's not for a lot of reasons, it's not the place that I'm in. It's not you're not ready. I'm not ready for a lot of reasons. I'm personally ready, but there are a lot of life reasons that make it so that I'm not ready. Does that make sense? Um, and so it's a little sad for me because it's something that I really want. All I want to do is be a mom. It's something I really want right now, and something I know I can't do right now. Um, and so when I see so many people around me getting pregnant, my friends, my family members, I'm so happy for them. No part of me feels as though when they tell me what a horrible person that they would tell me they're they're pregnant, they know I want to get pregnant, or I'm so jealous. I I wish that they weren't pregnant, anything like that. It's more like the feeling of I'm really envious that they're able to do this right now when I really want to do this right now, too. I really wish them so much happiness and I'm so happy for them. I can't wait for the baby and everything. You want it for you, but I want it for me too. And I think that it is a form of jealousy, right? It is a form of jealousy, but it's not in a malicious way, or it's not in a way that I would ever wish that person doesn't have it, or you know what I'm saying? Because I want it. It's it's more like a really harsh reality I have to face in my own life that I have to accept about my own life that can be very daunting and hard. And this is very vulnerable for me to share on the internet because honestly, because I don't want anyone to ever think that they can't tell me that they're pregnant or that they're that they have this beautiful blessing in Simcha because I'm only happy for them. But I would be totally lying if I said that every time someone tells me that they're pregnant, there's not like this little part of me that gets so sting that not a sting, but that gets so sad that it's not, you know, that it's not me, that it's not me sharing that news. Like I'm I really want to be the one to share that news. And then I talked to my husband about it. And, you know, we have the conversation of when it's our time, it'll be the right time and it's okay, and it has nothing to do with the other person's happiness. It's it's a me thing.

SPEAKER_00 8:52

But okay, so I have a few things to say about this. Okay. It sounds like you have a healthy mentality toward it. A lot of other people don't. So I've been on the receiving end of this. So what my husband and I, as many of our viewers know, had a very quick engagement. We dated very for a very short amount of time. I got pregnant very quickly. I recognize that it's not that easy for everyone. I recognize that I was very fortunate and lucky to have gotten pregnant without struggle. I life's given me a lot of lemons, but in this specific area, it was very easy for me. We were very excited to share that news with people, and uh, we thought that certain people would feel very happy for us, and we shared the news with a certain group of people that were very close to us.

SPEAKER_01 9:57

This was your first pregnancy?

SPEAKER_00 9:58

This was my first pregnancy.

SPEAKER_01 10:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 10:01

And uh we did not get a nice reaction, they were really mean. What happened? Like, walk me through the story. You my husband and I announced that we were expecting, and the comments were like sarcastic comments, just like really nasty. Give me an example of something. I don't remember exactly, like, but they were just they weren't, I mean, this was four years ago. They weren't very nice comments. So fast forward. Crazy. Okay, fast forward, I left where we had announced, and we didn't do like anything crazy or big. I left and I was really upset. Like I remember sitting in the car crying, like thinking like I never want to surround myself like with people like this. I was really, really sad. But at the same time, there were certain people that were struggling to get pregnant. And I recognized that like jealousy is normal, like as you just said. And maybe, you know, for me it was really easy to get pregnant, and for certain people it wasn't. So to hear that news is it's a sting. Like it hurts. It's like, well, I want that. But I think what those people fail to recognize is I didn't take your baby. Like, I'm not pregnant with your child. Just because I got pregnant doesn't take it away from you. So to me, like the jealousy that you have when you feel it toward people announcing pregnancies and like you want that, you're still happy for that person. Like I the jealousy that I was met with by these people was well, if I can't have it, you shouldn't have it either. It was mean. Yeah, that's crazy. Okay. So it was really horrible. And it even went as far as like someone made me call and apologize.

SPEAKER_01 11:44

What do you mean?

SPEAKER_00 11:45

Like I was told to call and say, I'm sorry that I'm pregnant and you know, you're not. It was really horrible. Hold on. So after you made this announcement, time passed.

SPEAKER_01 11:57

And everybody was pretty horrible to you about being pregnant for the time. The first time as if your pregnancy was a personal attack. You left, and someone in this group or associated with this group called you and said, You need to call a particular person who's having a hard time getting pregnant. Yeah, to like smooth things over and apologize for getting pregnant.

SPEAKER_00 12:16

And I did. You did it? I did. Okay. Like I called and I was like, I'm so sorry. And look, I think that there's it's very different, like saying, Hey everyone, like I wanted to share good news. We're expecting, as opposed to like making a huge party out of it and rubbing it in someone's face. Like that, I wouldn't do. But I think that you need to be able to share in your joys. Hold on. What do you mean? What if you wanted to do that? I wouldn't rub it in someone's face if I knew that they were struggling.

SPEAKER_01 12:45

Hold on. How is that you having a party for yourself? How and then just inviting a bunch of people, how is that rubbing it in?

SPEAKER_00 12:51

I don't know. I'm just saying I wouldn't rub it in someone's face. I would like announce it delicately to those people. To those particular people, sure, but you wouldn't stop your life. No, you're not gonna stop your life. You do what you want to do. But I just think that if you can't share in your friend's joys because or family. Or family, because like they should only be family's joys. Yeah. They should only be happy if you're happy and you have everything you want. Like, that's not friendship. No. I remember my it's way crazier when it's family that way. My I know it's very crazy. My best friend got engaged like during the time that I was like, I think I had been like ghosted by the in for the third time by like probably by the same person, knowing my history. So like I remember like being really upset, but my best friend had just gotten engaged and I was I wanted to get engaged so badly. Like I wanted to meet my person so badly, but I was so happy for her. And she like brought me along in everything she did for her wedding. She was so inclusive, and that made me feel like so loved. I did not feel like she was like, Yeah, look at me, like I'm engaged, and you're still like a single loser, like not at all. So I think that you need to be able to share in the joys of your friends, even if it's something that you want, because my pregnancy didn't, I didn't take your baby.

SPEAKER_01 14:12

And it was, it's not your pregnancy wasn't a personal attack. It wasn't something that was that you were doing to spite somebody.

SPEAKER_00 14:20

No, just like how when my best friend got engaged, like she didn't take my fiance, my husband. Like, I wasn't meant to marry who she's married.

SPEAKER_01 14:29

Yeah, no, a hundred percent. I mean, when I feel that feeling, it's a feeling of wow, this is something I have to work through in my own self to be okay with where I'm at in life. Yeah. But it has no bearing on my happiness for somebody else at all. But a lot of people, it does. I mean, yeah, your story's really crazy. Looking back on it, do you wish you never made that call? Because that's really crazy, McKinney.

SPEAKER_00 14:52

I wish I never made the call. And I wish that I had said to the person that said, like, you need to call and smooth things over. I wish I would have said, like, who do you think you are? I wish I was more, I wish I was stronger at the time, that I was able to recognize that the other people being upset that I was pregnant and not them. I wish that I was able to recognize in the moment that like I had no, I have no responsibility for how they're feeling. Like that's a them problem.

SPEAKER_01 15:27

It's really horrible that people made you feel like your pregnancy was something that you were doing wrong. Yeah. Yeah. And that you, that they that you they made you feel like you had to apologize for what is the biggest blessing in your life. Yeah. Like when you look at your daughter now and you look back on it, it's almost like I can't believe I had to apologize for this blessing.

SPEAKER_00 15:52

It just, I the fact that I still think about it to this day and like how I felt it's really, really shitty. And again, I have sympathy for the people that struggle. I really, really do. But I don't think that it should take away from someone else being happy because like the way the message that it sent to me was I want you to get pregnant. I do, but just I need to do I need to get pregnant first. Like that's like how it felt. Like you can only be happy once I have it too.

SPEAKER_01 16:23

That's just like a really bitter subsect of people, you know?

SPEAKER_00 16:26

And I'm sure that what happened to me happens a lot to people.

SPEAKER_01 16:31

I don't think so. I think maybe not the call. I'm so sorry. This is like you whoever did this to you, I think they're particularly crazy. I don't think that that happens to a lot of people. I think that this is a subsect of society and community that's like extra crazy and a little bit like mentally deranged. Maybe. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 16:51

Sounds like it. But I do think maybe this happens like in other ways, like you know, teenagers, getting boyfriends or whatever. Maybe more subtle ways.

SPEAKER_01 17:01

But what happened to you after and how it was how people talk to you, the mean comments people made, the the way that you know you had to call and apologize to someone, whoever was doing all of that to you, I think they're just particularly crazy people. I don't think that's normal. Thanks for acknowledging. Yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_00 17:20

Who wants those people in our their lives? So while I think jealousy can be a problem because jealousy makes you nasty, in my opinion, like when you're mean and resentful about it, I think jealousy can sometimes be a good thing too. Because let me give you an example. So I really want to look good and dress cute, or and I really love how you dress. So I'm like so jealous by like your closet and your outfits. Okay. So nice. So I say to you, hey, I really love the way you dress. Like I wish I could dress like that. And then you might respond and say, Well, I would love to, you know, yeah, send you some links of what I get. Like I think this would look great on you. So like maybe See my shot mine. Yeah. So like maybe in some ways, jealousy can be a good thing too, because it can lead you to have, you know, what you feel is missing from you. Yeah, so like that's like a stupid example, but I feel like jealousy can be a good thing too.

SPEAKER_01 18:24

Wait, the question is do you owe someone who's jealous of you anything? For example, in this scenario that happened to you when someone was jealous of your pregnancy um and they treated you like a psychopath.

SPEAKER_00 18:43

Did you owe them anything? No, I don't think so. But I think it would be different if, you know, my best friend was really struggling to get pregnant or and I shared the news, and maybe my friend was like, well, I would hope my friend was really happy for me. Right, but maybe she cried or something. Maybe closed doors, she cried.

SPEAKER_01 19:06

Or maybe she cried in front of you or whatever. And in that case, you would owe her grace, right?

SPEAKER_00 19:11

Because I would I would owe her grace and I would have a conversation and say, I know that this must be really hard, and just know that I'm praying for you and I'm rooting for you, and I know what will happen for you too.

SPEAKER_01 19:22

Right, because that you can set you can tell that jealousy, it's not coming from a place of wanting you not to have it, it's coming from a place of, oh, this is a struggle feeling. Yeah, it's not a malicious, vindictive thing. Yeah. And so in those scenarios, yeah, I do think that you owe someone grace.

SPEAKER_00 19:38

But do you think sometimes like the jealousy is just so big that people don't recognize and it comes out in a really malicious way, but they don't mean it?

SPEAKER_01 19:47

I don't think so. I don't know. Like maybe I don't think so. I think when you're a bad person and you're a malicious person and you're an ugly person, um, it will always come out that way because you don't know anything else. I don't think good people do that. And I think if good people do do that, they recognize it and they don't make you then apologize to them.

SPEAKER_00 20:11

I do remember, yeah, you're right. And I do remember actually when I wanted to have a second child, like I did try for a few months. And every time you get a negative pregnancy test, it's it sucks. And then I remember hearing people around me announcing pregnancies, and I do remember one of my friends announced their pregnancies or her pregnancy, and I got really like I'm not upset, I but I cried. I was like, I want this so badly. Like, I'm trying, I really want it. Not in a way that's like, I should have it and you you shouldn't. No. But in a way of like, I really want it too.

SPEAKER_01 20:49

You know, I mean, I've cried too. Yeah. It's not, it has nothing to do with the other person, but that's what I'm saying. If it's coming out in a malicious way, you're probably not a great person. Yeah. You just aren't. Or if it does, then it's something you recognize and you say to the person, Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry, you know? But the way that it happened to you, these are all really nasty people. Yeah. Because you were forced to apologize for their malicious behavior. Yeah. You know?

SPEAKER_00 21:18

I think the bigger thing to me it was was just which I've said, you know, I said a little earlier is if I can't have it, you can't have it either. That was the bigger issue to me. Not even like the apologizing, because you know, people could be upset, whatever. The bigger thing to me was I don't want you to get pregnant until I do.

SPEAKER_01 21:39

At what point is giving grace for jealousy just shrinking yourself for comfort? Like at what point do you walk away? You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 21:55

No brainer. But I also think that, you know, you have to be Emotionally aware of these situations too. I think I really think it's about the delivery. And I really think that, you know, you know your friend.

SPEAKER_01 22:11

You know No, that's not what I asked you. I asked you at what point do you walk away? I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 22:17

I think I should have walked away earlier.

SPEAKER_01 22:18

Yeah, but yours is such an overt thing. Maybe look in when you were in that synop, when you were in it, you didn't feel that way. But when I look at your situation, I'm like, I wish I could have known you at the time to shake you, to be like, because you had all these pre all this pressure from everyone telling you that you need to apologize to this person. And no one was the sound in your ear to say, no, you don't. And I wish I could have been there for you to do that.

SPEAKER_00 22:45

I think I should have walked away after I was treated so poorly at the when you announced.

SPEAKER_01 22:52

Totally. But in a friendship, right? Because maybe these aren't really your closest friends, maybe they're family. Maybe, maybe. Um in a friendship, I you know, or someone that is close to you, when do you walk away? I think, I think, no matter how jealous you are because of a certain thing in your life that you want to happen that's not happening, it should never affect your happiness for somebody else. When you have a hard time being happy for somebody else, for example, if if I had a hard time being happy or sharing in my friend's or family's happiness when they shared pregnancy news with me, I would expect them to walk away from a friendship with me. I would so, yeah. So if, you know, if I'm not getting the the happiness, if my friends don't want to cheer me on in my good times and success, you know, they say you really know who your friends are when you're succeeding. Yeah. And so I think when somebody can't be there for you in that situation, and it's not a communicated thing, like, hey, I love you. I'm so happy for you. This is really hard for me right now. So I'm just gonna remove myself from this conversation for a little bit. Which I think is a totally okay. That's so respectable. Okay. But when somebody is just becomes bitter and you just feel in your gut, like, oh, this person isn't that happy for me. They don't want my success. They're they don't want what's best for me right now. They can't see beyond themselves to feel happy. For me, that's the time when you walk away.

SPEAKER_00 24:22

Has whatever happened to you that you've had to walk away because you felt like someone isn't genuinely happy for you? Yeah.

unknown 24:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:32

I've had best friends that I feel couldn't put aside their own personal feelings about something to just be happy for me about something that wouldn't affect them. You know what I mean? Um it's really hard. It's really hard, especially when you only want the happiness for your friends. Like if my friends or family or whatever were doing something that maybe I didn't necessarily agree with or wouldn't have do myself, but it's their journey and it's something like they're really proud of or really happy. Like I'm happy for them. I couldn't care less what I think about it. Who cares what I think about it? It doesn't affect you. No.

SPEAKER_00 25:10

But then there are friends that maybe do want the same thing as you and are struggling to get that thing, and then they could be they're so happy for you. And then that really shows you who your real friends are.

SPEAKER_01 25:23

Yeah. I mean, I had friends like that too.

SPEAKER_00 25:25

I do too. I do too. Yeah. And it just really shows you, it makes you think like, wow, I'm so blessed and I'm so grateful to have these people in my life. Like, who cares about the toxic people?

SPEAKER_01 25:36

Yeah. I'm just really your story makes me really sad because I really wish that I had been in the picture at that time to have your back. Yeah. Well, because it's really fucked up.

SPEAKER_00 25:49

Life is all about lessons. And if I was sitting here telling you this happened to me and I did the right thing by calling to apologize, and I wouldn't change anything, then you could say, like, well, here's a number of a therapist. But the fact I feel like you're as ill as the people that did this to you. But the fact that I've grown from it, yeah, you know, it shows.

SPEAKER_01 26:18

Yeah, I mean, you're a hundred percent times stronger now than then. I think there's no way in the world you would ever do that again.

SPEAKER_00 26:28

Yeah, but that's I think what life is. Like you grow, you move, you get stronger, and you don't repeat the things that look, maybe if I felt great about how that whole interaction happened and I was like, whatever, and I just called to apologize, maybe I'd be sitting here saying it didn't affect me. But that the fact that it affected me so much is the reason that I've changed.

SPEAKER_01 26:51

Yeah. I also think as you grow, grace is really important. And giving grace where it's deserved and needed is really, really important. So, like the other side of that coin is in a situation like yours where it's so overtly ugly and heinous, and it's so good to be so strong in those moments and you've learned to be that way. At the same time, it's so good to be able to have grace for people in the situation where somebody is struggling and they're being honest with you about their emotions, and they're not trying to take away from like your happiness or your good news, but they're just sharing in you know, their emotions at the time to maybe say why they can't show up for you in the way that they really want to or whatever. Growing is also saying, hey, like people, those are friendships you don't cut off. Like those are people that really need grace.

SPEAKER_00 27:45

Right. But even in this specific situation, and you know, I think I was wronged, or I believe I was wronged. And it was you were. I was wronged, and it was a horrible situation. I can still look back on the situation and in some way have a little bit of grace and understanding and compassion that I have no idea what else was going on in these people's lives the day that I said something.

SPEAKER_01 28:10

You can have compassion for how they felt in that moment, but how they acted is a separate thing.

SPEAKER_00 28:16

How they acted is on them, and that shows me how I want to move forward with the relationship looking back on it now. Correct. But I can have compassion and I feel, I feel for them. I feel that it's difficult, I feel that it's hard, and I'm sorry for that. But that is not my fault. We have we're on different journeys.

SPEAKER_01 28:36

Also, I feel for them that they have no communication skills or emotional maturity or wherewithal to know how to handle that situation, but be anything but ugly. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:49

Have you ever do you ever watch like uh David Guillaume's things? Yeah. He like says something. We've talked about him on the podcast before. He says something about like how jealousy is just like it's really bad. It like didn't there was like a video on this. I wish we could pull it up.

SPEAKER_01 29:05

But it's one of the sins in the Torah that thou shalt not covet thy neighbor. It's one of the seven deadly sins. Yeah. It's it eats away at your soul. You know, like the jealousy that we're talking about that I experience and I think that a lot of people experience in life. I don't think it's true jealousy. I think it's I want that too. It's a longing for something in your own life. I think when you're truly jealous of somebody, it's like you don't want that other person to have it. Do you know what I mean? It's not being like envious of somebody or envious of a situation.

SPEAKER_00 29:39

It's it's it's an uglier thing. Do you get what I mean? I know what you mean. I think like even something as stupid as like, you know, okay, I have a little example.

SPEAKER_01 29:51

Wait, hold on. It's like the girls that made the hate group about me in high school. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:57

Something like, okay, so when it was your wedding, I was three months postpartum. Okay. And I remember like looking at like you and the friend group and everything. I was like, oh, like, I'm so jealous. Like, I want to be skinny again already. But it wasn't like, oh, I wish that you were fat in the wedding, right?

SPEAKER_01 30:16

Yeah. No, all like exactly. All the girls in the hate group, like they wanted me to be really fat and ugly.

SPEAKER_00 30:22

Yeah. They really wanted me to be. Because then they feel better about themselves. So I think jealousy is bad when it comes with resentment that like you shouldn't have it. Yeah. Because I don't have it. Yeah. Like I want you to like be poor, ugly, and fat until I'm until I'm not poor, ugly, and fat. Yeah. Whatever.

SPEAKER_01 30:44

It's and by the way, good things don't come to you if you have that mentality. When you think in abundance and you want everybody to be fit, rich and hot and whatever, good things will come to you.

SPEAKER_00 30:58

By the way, I always pray for like people around me. And I to this day, the people that have been horrible to me about my pregnancies, been horrible to me and like jealous about other things that have happened in my life, like I still pray to pray for them to this day.

SPEAKER_01 31:16

You pray that they get accommodation.

SPEAKER_00 31:18

No, I pray that they get everything they want in life. And I hope that that comes with clarity too.

SPEAKER_01 31:23

That's really nice and evolved.

SPEAKER_00 31:26

Yeah. Hot takes? Yeah. If your friend can't be happy for you, the friendship already has an expiry date. You just don't know it yet.

SPEAKER_01 31:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:37

That's a hot take. Maybe you know it. Yeah. You know? Sharing your wins publicly when you know someone else close to you is struggling for the same thing is inconsiderate, even if you don't mean it in that way. I do not agree with that. I don't agree with that either. I think that's a good thing. That's what we just described. Yeah, hard pass. I think that it's all in the delivery.

SPEAKER_01 31:57

Yeah, I mean, if you're like, if you literally go up to somebody who's having a trouble getting pregnant and look at their stomach and you're like, I'm pregnant, then yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:07

You're a bad person, then you're a bad person. You genuine you can genuinely love someone and still not be able to celebrate them right now. That's honest. Pretending to be happy for them is worse. Well, that's kind of weird. I think that I could say, I'm really happy for you right now that you're pregnant or that you've just won the lottery, but I need I like need a second. I need a second to like process or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 32:34

I don't agree with this because I think that you can not celebrate someone or whatever and still be happy and still be happy for them, right? That's what we're talking about right now. I don't think you're like, oh, I can't be happy for you because I'm not getting pregnant too, or I'm not married yet all. So it's like, hey, this is hard right for me right now. It's hard for me to be like, ooh, but I am so happy for you. Right? Yeah. I don't that that's a hot take.

SPEAKER_00 33:02

The people most threatened by your success are almost always the ones who wanted the same thing and stopped trying.

SPEAKER_01 33:09

That's a hot take. The people most threatened by your success are almost always the ones who want the same thing and stopped trying. I think it's just people that don't like you and don't like themselves. And that can't they're just not emotionally mature. Like, I don't think people who are threatened uh of me were like, I really wanted to become an attorney, and I just didn't.

SPEAKER_00 33:36

Yeah, I don't think so either. I wonder if I agree with that. If someone made you apologize for your own good news, the relationship dynamic was already pro broken, the jealousy just explodes it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:45

Yeah, that's exactly what you went through. What about um the people who say, I'm so happy for you the fastest, are usually the ones who mean it the least. I don't agree with that. That is a hot take. That is a crazy take. Isn't that doesn't that mean that it's a hard pass then? No, like that's a hot that statement is a hot take. Yeah. Okay, well, we'll see you guys next week. Please. Thanks for coming. Yeah, and send in your listener letters so we can whatever topic you will.

SPEAKER_00 34:12

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