Dating Fatigue, Gaslighting & Two Million Swipes — ft. Guest Logan

This week on Laughing Through the Uncomfortable the youngest brother Logan finally joins the conversation — and he did not hold back! 😂

We pick up where we left off diving into whether a girl complimenting your eyes really means what you think it means, why resting bitch face is killing your approachability, and how dating app fatigue is real and exhausting.

Logan drops some straight up honest advice — delete the apps, put the phone down and just go talk to people. Plus the crew gets into gaslighting, old sayings nobody understands anymore, the guy who swiped two million times on Tinder and still got stood up, and why going to the gym alone might be more distracting than helpful 😂

Real talk, little brother wisdom and a lot of laughs. This one is a good one. 🎙️

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Hello everybody and welcome back to Laughing Through the Uncomfortable with Julie and Jeff. And tonight we have a guest. We finally nailed Logan down.

SPEAKER_01 0:12

Hello, everyone.

SPEAKER_00 0:14

So Logan, you gotta speak up. Yeah, so Logan finally we nailed him down. He's a busy, busy boy with his one-year-old working two jobs and paying the man. Paying the man.

SPEAKER_02 0:28

That's awesome. I'm so I'm such a big, I'm just such a happy big brother.

SPEAKER_00 0:31

Oh, would you stop? Okay, so I'm actually glad that Logan's here. He I actually asked him to listen to this podcast. He's super busy and he listens like 10 minutes on the way to work, 10 minutes on the way home. And I wanted to continue this conversation. There's several things I want to touch on that we talked on last week that I don't know if I did justice on the whole feedback because I'm a woman and you're a man and I'm 30 years older than everybody and I have a different perspective from when I was dating years ago. But I want to hit several things. So the first thing was proceed. And no, the first thing what what? Would you stop? The first thing, oh my god, Logan, help me. The first thing is the the eyes. When a girl compliments you in your eyes, it was so funny because I you would Jeff was truly in like honest with does that mean she wants to, you know, boink? I'm like, Boink?

SPEAKER_02 1:26

Are you shitting me?

SPEAKER_00 1:27

That's that's my way.

SPEAKER_02 1:28

Does she does she want that's my way of saying my god, does she want to fuck?

SPEAKER_00 1:34

I okay anyway. Logan, I know you had some input about hopefully my advice was good, right? That doesn't necessarily mean she wants to, you know, I don't know, do the moji boji, get lateral, do the whole thing, horizontal thing with you just because she gives you compliments.

SPEAKER_01 1:53

Yeah, I agree with mom. Just because someone says that you have nice eyes doesn't mean that they want to go ten toes with you. Are you shitting me? No, Aaron.

SPEAKER_02 2:02

Three of my female friends told me I told them the exact same story, and they all told me that girl wanted to get down.

SPEAKER_01 2:09

Well, your friends give terrible advice. Yeah, you're right. I should listen to you. It's just a segue into a further conversation. They just want to talk a little bit. It's just a opening statement, if you would.

SPEAKER_00 2:23

Right? That's what I told them. Like, that's what you should say, right? Then he should start a conversation like, oh, well, thanks. You know, I really like your scarf, or wow, you have nice shoes, or you've got pretty hair yourself, or your eyes are pretty too.

SPEAKER_02 2:35

Sure, after they pull out the pepper spray, I have a boyfriend.

SPEAKER_00 2:38

Well, if they're giving you if they're giving you call if they're if I don't know, in the context of where we're at, if we're in a, I don't know, at a restaurant on bar and barter, I don't know where you are, but they're not gonna pull out your pepper spray and spray you if they go, you have pretty eyes for you to go, oh well, thank you very much. I like your hair too. They're not gonna go f and spray you with fucking pepper spray.

SPEAKER_02 2:57

Yeah, that's definitely not gonna happen. That's not gonna happen. It's just a fear factor, no.

SPEAKER_00 3:01

My gosh. Okay. So anyway, obviously Logan is not very talkative at all today. You're probably super tired, but I just agreed with you.

SPEAKER_01 3:14

Well, I mean, it it I mean, yes and no, in my experience, if someone compliments you, specifically a female, it's not it's not an auto, hey, come back to my place. But I mean, it it's just one of those, hey, I don't know what to say, so I'm just gonna compliment you and see if you want to talk to me further. And if you do, then it goes from there and the conversation leads to wherever it leads.

SPEAKER_00 3:40

That's what I'm saying. Understood. Okay, that's fair. I don't understand what the issue is.

unknown 3:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:46

Me being neurodivergent and not understanding social cues. That's the problem.

SPEAKER_00 3:49

You only understand when you don't want to understand. Just like your dad. He only hears me when he doesn't want to hear me.

SPEAKER_02 3:54

I just learned what gaslighting is. Really? So, yeah, I just learned it.

SPEAKER_00 3:58

So who taught you that one? That's my favorite one.

SPEAKER_02 4:01

Uh myself in the car.

SPEAKER_00 4:02

I'm like, oh, they were gaslighting me. Oh, wait, were you gaslighting yourself? Probably. All those conversations you have with you. Probably in my head. You're as bad as he actually answers himself. No, I'm serious. Like, you are. You were. All right. So, so what how did you learn the term gaslight?

SPEAKER_02 4:21

Apparently, it's when someone, you like when you say something.

SPEAKER_00 4:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:26

When you say something, okay, I'm being loud. I am lowering my voice to almost ASMR type of bull crap here. But gaslighting, in my definition, is when you say something three months ago, and when someone brings up, hey, do you remember? And then that's when you say, I I did not say that. I think you I think you heard something different. That's gaslighting.

SPEAKER_01 4:51

That's not gaslighting. Oh, that's that's just you having a terrible memory. That's not gaslighting.

SPEAKER_00 4:57

Logan, do you want to explain what gaslighting is?

SPEAKER_01 5:00

Gaslighting is when you convince someone that their reality is something different. It's like you flipping on a light upstairs and then your significant other saying, Hey, the light upstairs is on, and then you go, No, it's not. You're crazy. It's not on.

SPEAKER_00 5:14

Yeah, that's not on.

SPEAKER_01 5:15

Oh, that's even worse. It's you convincing the other person that their reality is incorrect.

SPEAKER_00 5:20

Oh my god. And this gaslighting came about, I believe, in a movie. There was a movie in the 1920s, black and white movie that is named Gaslight, and it was a dude making, and the woman was rich, and he was trying to get her thinking that she was, you know, crazy. And so that way he would inherit all of her money if she he was trying to get her committed to an insane island, because back then that's what they had. And so he was like, he would like turn down the gas, because it was gas at the time, so electricity. So he'd be down and turn the gas off, and then the lights would flicker. And she'd be like, Did you see the lights flicker? And he said, No, dear. Like Harry Logan was saying, No, the lights aren't flickering, it's all in your head. Are you feeling okay, hun? Maybe you should go lay down and take your pills, dear. Yeah. Gaslighting, right?

SPEAKER_02 6:07

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 6:09

Making think somebody making think Phil, you your reality is not right or you're not thinking correctly. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 6:15

I got some reading to do.

SPEAKER_00 6:17

Yeah, no, it's okay. So the Well, it's weird.

SPEAKER_02 6:20

I'm dyslexic. I don't know why I said that. I hate reading.

SPEAKER_00 6:23

No, just because you have to understand sometimes, sometimes there's old saying, you know, like, oh my goodness. Okay, so speaking of old sayings, gaslighting is an old one. But one of my, I was talking to a student of mine, and and she was ready to throw her whole project out. And I'm like, you don't want to throw the whole project out. The whole project's not bad. Just, you know, you don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater. And she looked at me like five heads.

SPEAKER_02 6:49

Morbid.

SPEAKER_00 6:49

And I'm like, no, it's an old saying. And I looked at her and I'm like, you don't know. She's like, what is I don't understand? Throw the baby out with the bathwater. Okay, for everybody who's listening who's a millennial or what generation are you, Logan?

SPEAKER_01 7:03

He's trans.

SPEAKER_00 7:06

Throwing the baby out with the bathwater is you don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater is. You don't want to throw everything out. Not everything's bad. The baby's not bad.

SPEAKER_02 7:16

The bathwater is say that to the generation.

SPEAKER_00 7:19

You don't want to throw everything out. You may want to just save something. Anyway, it doesn't matter. That's your lesson for tonight, children. Anyway, okay. The next. So the other thing I think is interesting is Logan is just resting bitch face. And he has it.

SPEAKER_02 7:36

I don't sometimes I don't even know my own face. That's just my face. It's just my face. I don't I'm not gonna I don't look like I'm gonna murder someone.

SPEAKER_00 7:44

No, resting bitch face is that you're just angry and you're a bitch.

SPEAKER_02 7:47

Oh my god. I'm not.

SPEAKER_00 7:50

Logan's shaking his head.

SPEAKER_01 7:52

My god, Loki. I mean, it comes out, yeah, but not all the time. And like it only happens when he's not paying attention to things. Like exactly. When he's just kind of staring off, he just kind of has this please don't talk to me, I'm gonna fight you face.

SPEAKER_00 8:09

Exactly. Which is what happens. I'm so sorry. No, okay, so like when you're you're not approachable. So like when you're in the bar or you're in the restaurant and you're you're hanging out, like having an appetizer at the bar and a drink, you're and you're thinking about other things, your resting bitch face emerges. And so nobody wants to approach you. Because, like Logan just said, it's like if you touch, if you talk to me, I'm gonna punch you.

SPEAKER_01 8:32

Well, well, I might not every experience at the point where you want to talk to somebody.

SPEAKER_00 8:38

What?

SPEAKER_01 8:38

So not every bar experience is come talk to me. Sometimes you're at the bar and you just want to have a drink in silence.

SPEAKER_00 8:46

Yeah, no, no, no, no. Logan, no, no, no. Jeff's bar experiences are that he needs to go talk to people, he needs to find people.

SPEAKER_02 8:54

That is what was weird is that okay, I was I'm okay. My type of bar is usually at the pizza bougie shit or fancy bullshit beat bullshit crap, right? That's my type of bar.

SPEAKER_00 9:08

Okay, bougie shit. Here's a little liability here.

SPEAKER_02 9:11

Like throw out window breaking, like rough housing, car hard bullshit. Jeff has had two glasses of wine. Not not motherfuck. I'm about to get a third one.

SPEAKER_00 9:27

No, but seriously, like you need to be approachable. And then, like that, your friend said about how you dress and stuff, like you know, because you you do dress so well because what you do for a living, sometimes you because you're you're so stiff because you have you have good posture, you're so stiff, sometimes you're not approachable. Yeah, you could be you could be intimidating, yeah. As opposed to just like sitting there smiling and being like friendly. Well, like look at Logan, how how approachable he is, right?

SPEAKER_02 9:58

He's very approachable.

SPEAKER_00 9:59

Well, I don't know. I mean, yeah, you were. You were approachable and your hair was super loose.

SPEAKER_02 10:04

Are you serious me? Every girl, every girl, I remember all of them. And like they're like, they oh my god, Logan is so handsome. Like, seriously, Logan, you are like probably really handsome. And I'm so glad.

SPEAKER_00 10:17

Probably. You're probably we won't know it yet. Allegedly.

SPEAKER_01 10:21

Yeah, allegedly. It's alleged, it's alleged.

SPEAKER_02 10:23

Either way, it's just like oh my god, for you and Ben too. It's like you guys had like so many girlfriends throughout elementary school, middle school, high school, college. Like, I remember them all, and I'm like, how the fuck did they get a girlfriend? I'm like, I only had one girlfriend in high school, and she broke up with me on fucking Valentine's Day. Like, oh my god, maybe oh my god. But both my bros have wrestling.

SPEAKER_00 10:46

I think that maybe you need to stop thinking about it and then just enjoy your life. Like you were going to that area, that bar in your in your area where you live, and you've met that really nice bartender, and you guys talk now, and you guys go, you go like once a month, and she's there, and you guys talk, and you know, she's married, but she's super nice. Yeah, right. And I told you to keep going and having those kinds of conversations, but you could go to different areas and different things and sit at the bar and have those conversations. Oh well. And that'll help you be more like friendly and approachable. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:14

I I am doing that. I am going out talking to people. I have a favorite pizza place, a favorite bartender I talk to. I have a favorite pizza uh breakfast place, my favorite waitress I like to see. Unfortunately, they're both married.

SPEAKER_00 11:29

But that's okay. Sucks ass you can't find, but you can get used to talking to people.

SPEAKER_02 11:34

Like, hey, they asked, but hey, they actually remember our last conversation, but I don't because how busy my life is. It sucks.

SPEAKER_00 11:40

So is that a problem, Morgan?

SPEAKER_01 11:42

Yeah, just care like a little bit. Just care a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 11:46

Oh, care.

SPEAKER_01 11:49

It was it was funny. You you I I I heard the last podcast a while ago about you and that bioengineer. Oh, Jesus.

SPEAKER_02 11:57

I oh my god, I regret that. After Ben was explaining, Ben was telling me what's going on. I'm like, dude, I'm like, now I firmly regret it. Now I'm like, God damn it. It's all a learning lesson, but I know it's a learning lesson, but my fucking brain doesn't let me. My brain reminds me. Dude, my brain fucking reminds me.

SPEAKER_01 12:21

You want to know what's so great is that the sun will come up tomorrow. Yeah, that's true. I'm alive tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah. But I want to let you know that just because you have an awkward date doesn't mean that it's an end-all be-all. I did a fucking handshake. Hey man. You like that. Are you fucking serious?

SPEAKER_02 12:40

I did a fucking handshake.

SPEAKER_01 12:42

At least you didn't dap her up like a homie.

SPEAKER_02 12:44

And apparently I'm supposed to walk her to her car. Yeah. I've stopped doing that. I've stopped doing that from all the I have dating fatigue, dude. I have dating fatigue because of all this media bullshit of just like expectations. I'll pay for the fucking dinner. I'll just like fuck. If you want me to walk your car, I'll walk to your fucking car. But most of them just fuck.

SPEAKER_01 13:10

Sorry. What were you saying? Molly and I had a very awkward date on our first date, and now we have a one-year-old.

SPEAKER_02 13:16

It was a very wonderful story, and you have a precious boy that I'm so happy that you brought into this world. It's like I can't wait to see him again when I get the chance to go out there and save my money and get that ticket. Yes, which was.

SPEAKER_01 13:35

My point is that if you have an awkward first date, go on a second one to see if it's just as awkward or if things change. Yeah. People get nervous, man. You know what? Maybe she felt the same way you did.

SPEAKER_02 13:50

It's weird. She didn't text me back. I wouldn't. You shook my hand.

SPEAKER_00 13:55

I came to fucking hung after, and I told her I was socially awkward. Fuck. You didn't say that you text after the date. You said you were like, that's it, I didn't want it. That was it. You didn't say it after the date?

SPEAKER_02 14:06

No, I didn't. I thought she would.

SPEAKER_01 14:09

Oh, no. Girls never text back first.

SPEAKER_00 14:12

No, you gotta do the initial thing.

SPEAKER_01 14:14

Girls never text first, man.

SPEAKER_00 14:16

What happened to the one that matched you last week when you Oh, she blocked, she goes to me.

SPEAKER_02 14:21

She didn't happen straight up ghost. I was I was basically cheap entertainment for the and then the other five girls that match with me on Easter. She goes to me and on the other four, basically it was cheap entertainment after them. It just takes me every one every 24 hours, now every tw every every 72 hours, and after that ghosted, and I'm like, whatever. Fuck you. What is wrong with people? Oh, because of dating apps and shit, they were rather just like it's the stimuli. It's the fucking dopamine in their brain.

SPEAKER_01 14:48

I will say that the reason why I was so approachable while at bars was because I went out with friends.

SPEAKER_02 14:57

Uh yeah, I don't have any of those. But you have Ben I only have girls as friends, but they kind of on thin brackets but keep talking.

SPEAKER_01 15:04

Friends are friends, man. And it cuts out your bitch face because people will see you laugh with them or you talk to them and they see that you're an open person. So going to the bars alone is good. It's alright. But I do recommend going out with friends. It'll help you. I will work on that.

unknown 15:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:26

Fly out here, I'll take you to a bar.

SPEAKER_00 15:28

I know I was gonna say, I have an idea. Why don't I fly Jeff out there for the weekend when he's off? Shit, I'd rather watch your son. No, no. Shit, we'll take him with us. You could take a day. Oh yeah, he's a he's a woman magnet, I bet.

SPEAKER_01 15:40

He's a chick magnet. We'll take with the dogs apparently our wind magnets.

SPEAKER_00 15:44

So what magnets what you could do is take to take him to like the park, and you'd be like, oh hey, and then girls will be like, Oh my god, is this your baby? Like, no, I'm the uncle in babysitting.

SPEAKER_01 15:53

Yeah, dude, while I'm at work, you can take him to a park, him and Daisy May, you take walk and walk with Gentry and the dog.

SPEAKER_02 16:00

I don't know if you can handle the baby and the dog. Well, I can hand oh my god, girl, I can handle both. Did you just go sorry? Oh my god. I'm sorry, mom. Girl, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_00 16:08

What is that all about? I'm sorry. No, I I just think it's I just think my sub out the window now. No, I just I promise. I'm sorry. Okay, so remember my conversation with you a couple weeks ago about lowering your expectations on people?

SPEAKER_02 16:24

Yeah, I did, and guess what? The the girls who they ghost me.

SPEAKER_00 16:29

No, not the expectations on the dating app, but just in general expectations with people. Like when you when you ask, you know, like people asking you questions, right? And you're like, why is this? I don't understand. I'm like, you have to like lower your expectations and assume that nobody understands anything, like because you don't know where they you don't know the background, their education, you know, any of that stuff. So if you lower the extended, I don't. So my point being is if you lower and you just are like you you make it, you make it like an exercise where you just you smile and you say hi to people. You know, you be like mom in the grocery store, like dad says, I can't walk by five people without talking to them, right? I mean, just hoy, how you doing? How's it going? Start that conversation.

SPEAKER_02 17:11

Start that conversation, right? Yep.

SPEAKER_00 17:15

How's the Chardonnay and water ratio going?

SPEAKER_02 17:19

It's Pinot Noir right now. I literally like crash on my couch, ate a pizza, and crash out three glasses of wine, I'm out, and then I still fucking wake up at 12 o'clock, go to bed at 2 a.m. and still do homework and still.

SPEAKER_00 17:31

Well, Logan's drinking Jack and Coke. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, uh-huh. Is that your cocktail after the day at work?

SPEAKER_01 17:37

That's wine. I'm not drinking. I haven't, I don't have any. Oh, it's wine.

SPEAKER_00 17:40

What are you drinking?

SPEAKER_01 17:41

What are you drinking? That bottle of wine that you guys had.

SPEAKER_00 17:44

Oh, the one that I brought.

SPEAKER_01 17:46

That that's that's Sauvignon Blanc.

SPEAKER_00 17:49

Yeah, yeah. Nice. That's not Sauvignon Blanc that's red. That's either Pinot, that's a Pinot. I think I got a I think it was a Josh.

SPEAKER_01 17:55

Yeah. Well, I finished it.

SPEAKER_00 17:57

So Yeah. Okay, that's cool. Okay, so here's the thing. Here is the thing.

SPEAKER_02 18:03

What is the thing, Mother?

SPEAKER_00 18:05

Okay, you need to stop.

SPEAKER_02 18:06

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 18:06

But we have Logan here.

SPEAKER_02 18:09

Yes, I know we're gonna do it.

SPEAKER_00 18:13

Like, really pick his brain. All right, fine, I'll pick his brain. Like with the dating apps, and maybe you should talk to him. Maybe you should text him and go, hey, here's the thing.

SPEAKER_01 18:21

I got a lot of information about dating apps. Oh, well, there you go. Wait a minute, you do? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:27

Really?

SPEAKER_01 18:27

Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 18:28

He hasn't been on them for a couple years, but he still has information.

SPEAKER_01 18:32

I haven't been on it since my junior year of college. Oh, Jesus. Okay, lay it on me, man. Lay it on me, bro. What's going on?

SPEAKER_00 18:39

Did you meet did you meet Satan through a dating app?

SPEAKER_02 18:42

Shit, you did. I did. He did meet Satan. I did. And unfortunately, I dated a fellow Satan with the same name that cheated on me. I know.

SPEAKER_00 18:54

I think you should run. I think you should run. So that was my sophomore year.

SPEAKER_01 18:59

It was my sophomore year. Yeah. So yeah, I stopped dating apps my sophomore year.

SPEAKER_00 19:03

Yeah. So okay, so what advice do you have to give to Jeff about dating apps? The silence is killing me. It's like a radio station. You can't have silence, Logan. Get your thoughts together. What are you doing?

SPEAKER_01 19:20

Are you what? Dude, the secret of dating apps is to not put so much weight on the failures. There's girls on there with bad intentions, and there's girls on there with great intentions, and you just gotta weed through them. You just gotta keep going, man.

SPEAKER_02 19:37

I just gotta keep going.

SPEAKER_01 19:38

There's a there's a dude out there that was on Tinder for like nine years, and he had like two million swipes, and he only got one date.

SPEAKER_00 19:49

What was wrong with him?

SPEAKER_01 19:51

Nothing. He had a nothing. Just women suck sometimes.

SPEAKER_00 19:56

I admit it, women do suck. I girls suck.

SPEAKER_01 20:01

The best part about it is that when I got off it. When I got off it after my sophomore year, I mean I met Molly. So like and I dad didn't meet her through a dating app.

SPEAKER_02 20:16

Okay. Mom and dad were at the same high school.

SPEAKER_00 20:19

We didn't date in high school. We did not date in high school though.

SPEAKER_01 20:23

My my advice for dating apps is to delete them and put the phone down.

SPEAKER_00 20:27

But how else is he gonna meet girls?

SPEAKER_01 20:29

Talk to them. Go out.

SPEAKER_00 20:30

How about where?

SPEAKER_01 20:32

Go out.

SPEAKER_00 20:34

Okay, so I'm gonna fly him out there and he's gonna be your responsibility for like three weeks. How's that sound?

SPEAKER_01 20:39

Perfect. I'll get him going.

SPEAKER_02 20:41

I'll give him- Does Molly have any friends? No. Are they all married have kids now? Yes. Damn it. Damn it. Well, I can be a stepdad.

SPEAKER_00 20:54

You would be a great stepdad.

SPEAKER_02 20:55

But the problem is fucking stepdad.

SPEAKER_00 20:58

So here's the thing. Isn't there an app is there a dating app with you know moms with kids or something that you can like specifically go on or something?

SPEAKER_02 21:05

Everywhere.

SPEAKER_00 21:06

What about Fauna Wants a Wife or Oh god? What was that app that that Ken was on? He would some kind of app that farmers only. Why don't you do that?

SPEAKER_01 21:17

I heard not a farmer.

SPEAKER_00 21:19

Well, neither you don't have to be a farmer. I think it's just like, isn't that like a analogy for something?

SPEAKER_01 21:26

Farmers only.

SPEAKER_00 21:27

Yeah, but isn't it? Isn't it like a doesn't it mean something else? Like, you know, like uh, I don't know, doesn't it not mean like farmer? Doesn't it mean like you know, I'm ready to plow the field?

SPEAKER_02 21:39

Oh my god, mother.

SPEAKER_00 21:41

Put the phone down, get off all the dating apps, and then start talking to people in whatever bars or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 21:48

Also, stop trying to meet people, like it'll happen when it happens.

SPEAKER_02 21:53

You know, I'm gonna I'm gonna share a very, very famous analogy because I know it'll happen, but when you're drowning, when you You pr let's say you pray for help, right? You pass the first boat, the second boat, and the third boat, right? They all try to help you, but no, no, God will save me. You drown, you die, and God basically tells you, I sent you three fucking boats. Why do you not take one of them? So basically, every girl in my life that I literally passed on, saying like, yeah, I fucked up. I hope the next boat, I'm going to accept it.

SPEAKER_01 22:22

And I'm not going to drown. Yeah, but if that implies that you have to settle.

SPEAKER_00 22:26

Yeah. And if the next boat has like 5,000 horns and three flags and four rudders that are all I'm excuse my language, four. Hope to God they don't have rudders. Right?

SPEAKER_02 22:38

God damn it. This is why we don't go to church.

SPEAKER_00 22:43

Yeah. Well, I think that here's the thing. I think Logan had a good thing.

SPEAKER_02 22:51

Oh, yeah, it was a great thing. I appreciate that.

SPEAKER_00 22:53

You don't concentrate on the failures, right? Yeah. Football is a game of failures.

SPEAKER_01 22:58

You can't talk sports to Jeff.

SPEAKER_00 23:00

I'm going to talk sports.

SPEAKER_02 23:02

Hey, I just, I just discovered metaphors with their like medical crap. Like firefighters, probies, and captains and chaos.

SPEAKER_00 23:13

Oh my goodness. Yeah, you should have heard this metaphor that he said today about.

SPEAKER_02 23:16

Yeah, in the car.

SPEAKER_00 23:16

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it's about this person that he is a new person at his at we can't talk about his job, or we're gonna just say at school say, and that he's mentoring at school.

SPEAKER_02 23:30

And so he said, it's about the guy, the mentor, the new person in school was just being a little like he's like a little ignorant proby wanted to go up against the captain, and you don't want to question the venerable captain. Apparently, the qu the captain doesn't know shit. And now I'm like, I really want to fucking punch you.

SPEAKER_00 23:49

Yeah, but no, no, what you did was the analogy. So, like he said that this guy's acting like a 220. Everybody knows what a 220 is.

SPEAKER_02 23:56

That's school, and he's just like I'm mentoring this kid at school.

SPEAKER_00 23:59

Those of you out there listening, don't be a 220. And you know what a 220 is? It's a person that's been there for two years or acts like he's been there for 20. You don't be a two, you're not a 220.

SPEAKER_02 24:07

The kid entered the semester two two months in.

SPEAKER_00 24:09

Jeff, like, use his proper analogy. He's like, I'm tired of like mentoring this kid, and it's kind of like I'm the captain, and he thinks that this kid's smart, that's smarter than the captain. Like, oh my god, I'm so proud of you. Use this perfect analogy.

SPEAKER_02 24:21

It's basically the only way I can communicate my job with you and dad in a way.

SPEAKER_00 24:26

That's not true, Logan. Do you have to use analogies with the fire service and EMS with me?

SPEAKER_02 24:31

Retail is completely different than the fire service.

SPEAKER_00 24:34

It's completely different than anything.

SPEAKER_02 24:35

Yeah, but it's still, it's it's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 24:37

It's man-eat man, boy eat boy, dog eat dog.

SPEAKER_02 24:39

But but I use baseball metaphors in my life because, hey, I'd rather be a coach type than a leader type.

SPEAKER_00 24:48

Well, then a coach, a leader?

SPEAKER_02 24:50

What's the what? Is there a difference?

SPEAKER_00 24:52

A coach is a leader, right?

SPEAKER_02 24:53

No, that's the assistant coach.

SPEAKER_00 24:55

Well, what are you thinking, Logan? A leader is a coach, a coach is a leader.

SPEAKER_02 24:58

I'd rather be an L fielder than anything.

SPEAKER_00 25:00

Okay, you could be a coach, but not a good leader, but you could be a leader, not a coach. Unpack that one.

SPEAKER_01 25:07

My experience. Coaches are the ones to educate. Leaders are the one to hold accountability to make sure that education is being taught, or I guess obtained, or retained.

SPEAKER_00 25:20

Well, can't a coach hold you accountable for not learning the lesson that he's tried to learn or she's trying to give?

SPEAKER_01 25:25

There's only so much that you can do as a coach.

SPEAKER_00 25:28

That's true.

SPEAKER_01 25:29

You can lead a horse to water, can't make a drink.

SPEAKER_00 25:31

There you go. You know what? There you go on the dating app, Jeff. You can leave the horse to water, but you can't make a drink.

SPEAKER_02 25:38

Yeah, or I can just say that.

SPEAKER_00 25:39

I don't think you should get rid of the dating apps. Like, okay, I think you should put it down and fall out, like Logan said. I think you should delete it, get off of it for a month.

SPEAKER_02 25:47

Yeah.

unknown 25:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:48

And then when you get back on the horse and take it to the water, you either waterboard the shit out of it.

SPEAKER_01 25:55

I'll probably do that. Yeah, at the end of the day, it's just a blind leading the blind over here, Jeff. Appreciate that, bro. Appreciate that. We're just a bunch of Helen Kellers holding hands, hoping we're finding our destination at this point.

SPEAKER_00 26:08

Oh my god. No. But, and then you get back on that, you get back on the dating app and you turn all your notifications on. You think of the dude that Logan said at 9 million or 9,000 swipes and only got one date. But hey, can I ask you a question, Logan? That one date ended up being a working out, like marrying and all that stuff. What happened with the date?

SPEAKER_03 26:34

So he's still swiping? That poor guy is still swiping.

SPEAKER_02 26:39

After two million, let's go for three million.

SPEAKER_01 26:42

Yeah, uh I don't know. I he might have deleted his his the application.

SPEAKER_00 26:48

That is so funny.

SPEAKER_02 26:49

Well, I'm gonna honestly when when driving up here, well, first of all, Logan, I really appreciate your advice. I really thank you so much for that. I really appreciate it. And I will do it everything that mom and you are telling me to do when I'm probably out of my coma on the couch after my fourth glass of wine. I'm not an alcoholic, I promise. Because I really like wine. I never got to drink in my life, but now I can because I'm an adult and I have adult money. I ran into last year. I was driving up here and I was remembering this girl I used to go to class with in high school. Her let's say her name is Elizabeth, some generic e-name. I ran into her in Wanna Creek, and she was headed to the gym over there, and I'm like, oh my god, Elizabeth. I'm like, she said, Oh my god, Jeff. I'm like, hey, and I'm like, I had my suit on and I was I was working in the area, and I just like, hey, what are you up to? What I've never seen you, and I'm like, oh, I'm headed to the gym and stuff like that. And my brain, I fucking ate my brain right now because my brain's like, oh, really? And I'm like, oh shit, I have to go to work. Well, take care. I'm like, motherfucker, ask for her number. And let's like, fuck. And I and I saw her again. She walked past, saw me in the window, and walked forward. I'm like, shit, I should have ran out the fucking door.

SPEAKER_00 28:16

No, you don't run because you don't like you don't know what you look like when you run.

SPEAKER_02 28:20

Do I look fat when I run? I'm just kidding. Do my do I look fat? Do my little double chin go in the wind?

SPEAKER_00 28:27

I'm kidding.

SPEAKER_02 28:28

I do have one. I'm trying to work out.

SPEAKER_00 28:30

Maybe you should join the gym.

SPEAKER_02 28:31

Oh my god. Oh, oh, gross. My god, that's gross.

SPEAKER_00 28:35

Okay, maybe a book.

SPEAKER_02 28:36

Oh my god, you see though how the women dress in the gym? Maybe a book. You can't you oh my god. I went to the gym with Ben like three fucking times, and I'm like, you know what? Women are wearing the most tightest shit. You're in a gym. Yeah. And guess what? There's mirrors everywhere. You be a dude. You try having a thing in between your legs and shit. Fuck. I had I headed out there within the first half an hour. I was like looking down. Okay, first of all, I'm mom, I had to look down. I had to look down every time I do an exercise because there's three cute women, and I'm just like, oh God, oh god, why why are you wearing tight shit? Because if I look at them, I'm a fucking weirdo. Oh, because I don't join public gyms.

SPEAKER_00 29:16

Oh, okay. Yeah, that's not right, right? Because like the whole protocol. Right? Right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:22

I haven't I haven't been in the gym in over a year.

SPEAKER_02 29:25

Because you have a but because you have a fast metabolism like a god.

SPEAKER_00 29:30

Oh, Logan just sent me that the TikTok thing. It's man swiped right for two million times on Tinder in five years and only could get one date. And she actually stood him up. Oh my gosh. That's funny. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 29:45

Yeah. Yeah. If I ever pick up a weight again, it'll be too early.

SPEAKER_00 29:48

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 29:48

Yeah, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 29:50

Okay. So here's what we're going to do. You're going to delete all the dating apps. I think that was great for Logan. I think that was great because I think right now you're just like uh consumed. Yes. Consumed. Or just tired. No, because that's all you're doing is thinking and thinking and thinking and thinking.

SPEAKER_02 30:05

I'm actually reading their fucking profiles, like you said. I'm like, okay, cool, cool. And you know what? It's weird. I have a weird statistic. It takes them 10 days.

SPEAKER_01 30:14

It's become subconscious for you. Like what? Swiping. He's reading. It's become subconscious.

SPEAKER_00 30:21

Well, what I had to do was now read the profile, though. I made him read the profile to see if you know had anything likable or near what, you know, before he was just swipe, swipe, swipe, swipe. Like for picture wise, as opposed to reading the profile.

SPEAKER_02 30:34

Yeah, I need to read the profile.

SPEAKER_00 30:35

So what you need to just get rid of get get off of all the dating apps, like Logan said. Take out, take a sabbatical from dating apps.

SPEAKER_02 30:42

Oh, we'll take a sabbatical.

SPEAKER_00 30:44

April to like June 1st.

unknown 30:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 30:46

And then what you do is you get on the dating app, but you have you do like a conference call with Logan and Kate. I wouldn't say Ben because you know how Ben is. Uh, because he'd be like, no, look at me, look at my biceps. And no, just kidding. Just kidding, Ben, I love you. No, you know what I mean? And then, like, and then we get really cool profile pics of like you with your nephews and that kind of thing. And then you turn your notifications on.

SPEAKER_02 31:16

I have some really shitty pictures in my stuff.

SPEAKER_00 31:17

You have really good pictures on your profile. What are you talking about?

SPEAKER_02 31:21

Yeah. No, they're good. I need to take them professionally.

SPEAKER_00 31:24

No, they're good. What you don't want professional pictures, what you want is like candid pictures.

SPEAKER_02 31:30

Well, yeah, like stationed, like almost like a wedding picture or no, candid.

SPEAKER_00 31:35

What's not stage? Meaning like you're sitting at the bar here or dinner, and I say, hey, smile, or you're with, you know, you're with, you know, whatever, you just take your picture. You were the dog, and you take a picture. Do you know that's the other thing? Is I read that percentage-wise, if a person has a man has a picture of himself with a dog that increases the likability on picture on photos. Did you know that?

SPEAKER_02 31:57

Well, I wish I owned a dog.

SPEAKER_00 31:59

Well, we can do like we can get grand, we can get we can get nephew number one and nephew number two and the three dogs in the freaking pictures. And I'm also throwing two great danes.

SPEAKER_02 32:08

All in one fucking picture.

SPEAKER_00 32:10

And with the three great Danes. That would be funny. Could you imagine taking a picture with two great danes? Yeah. Could you imagine taking a picture with George and Izzy? Be like, hello, hello. That'd be awesome.

SPEAKER_02 32:22

If I could have dog, can I just leave it with you guys and visit it twice a day, twice a week? No. Jackass.

SPEAKER_00 32:28

Even Logan's saying no, and he lives across the states. So we are at 36 minutes. So this is good conversation. I think you've thought a lot. Number one, if a girl compliments your eyes, it's not the shoe on stuff. Fuck you.

SPEAKER_02 32:42

It means what's a fucking compliment. But also continue the conversation.

SPEAKER_00 32:46

Okay. An end talk.

SPEAKER_02 32:48

She has the confidence to approach. I need to step through the door and continue that confidence.

SPEAKER_00 32:54

And if she doesn't want to talk, you'll know, right?

SPEAKER_02 32:56

Okay. Okay. Before we have to go, before we have to go, I don't care if it's 36 minutes. This is quality time with my little brother here.

SPEAKER_00 33:02

Okay. Quality.

SPEAKER_02 33:04

Quality time.

SPEAKER_00 33:05

Not grawity.

SPEAKER_02 33:06

I'm dyslexic.

SPEAKER_00 33:07

That doesn't okay. Anyway, go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 33:08

Okay. So when a girl looks at you once and sm and then you look, she smiles and she looks again. That she's giving you the window to approach. Is that true?

SPEAKER_00 33:18

Logan silence. People need they don't see your face. You gotta talk.

SPEAKER_02 33:22

Is that true, bro? Is that true? Because I there's a moment I'm I dressed really good. I'm bored. They looked at me. I look at them and I smile back, and she looks at me and smiles. I'm like, oh shit. She gave me the win. She gave me the moment to step foot. I have to wait for a third look. Third look. No, it's two. On Instagram, this is this fucking bullshit media uh Alamega Grat.

SPEAKER_01 33:44

Is it true?

SPEAKER_02 33:45

Well, how you doing?

SPEAKER_01 33:46

How you doing? You're gonna be a Joey? No. No, it's not true. It's not a movie. This isn't a rom-com. I wish it was sometimes. Um I'll be the guy and the girls. If they keep staring at you and they, you know, hit you with a smile, just be like, hi, how are you? Yeah, yeah, you just don't walk over there. Don't walk over. Let you hi. And then go about your business, and if they walk over to you, great. If they don't, they don't. But if you're at a bar and they give you a couple looks, send a drink their way and That's that's the bar. But that's a woman of the night.

SPEAKER_03 34:18

No.

SPEAKER_01 34:19

No? Okay. No. Not everyone's a hooker, Jeff.

SPEAKER_03 34:24

I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01 34:25

No, but when they give smiles. When they give you the look and then they look away and they smile and they look at you and then they smile again, you say hi from afar. Okay. Like if you're in public, you say hi, let them come to you. And then if you're at a bar and they look at you and you smile, or they smile at you and you say hi, say hey, whatever they're drinking, the next one's on me and let them know it's for me. And if they say, come over, they're like, I have a boyfriend, and we'll be like, Well, does your boyfriend know you're smiling at dudes? Or they'll come over and be like, Thank you so much for the drink, and then you have a girl talking to you, and you just keep going. It compounds and builds up. Yeah. You say hi from before. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 35:09

Okay. Do you understand that?

SPEAKER_02 35:11

I understand the social dynamics.

SPEAKER_01 35:14

Am I speaking Chinese or am I speaking English? Did you understand? I understand perfectly. You understand the words that are coming out of my mouth. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 35:23

All right. Well, thank you, Logan, for coming. Of course. And thank you for those of you who are listening to this follow-up episode and the whole blue eyes, messing bitch face, and then great advice from the younger brother, Logan. So thank of you. Thank you all for joining us on Laughing to Think Comfortable. This is Julie and Jeff. And tonight.

SPEAKER_02 35:43

Logan.

SPEAKER_00 35:44

Yay. Yay. And you know, hit us up on Instagram or Facebook. Let us know what you think. And uh honestly, let us know what topics you want us to talk about with Jeff's Life. If you have any questions about Jeff, or maybe we can get Jeff, Logan, and Ben all in one, and we could do like a let me know questions that you want to ask them.

SPEAKER_01 36:02

That's gonna have to be like an hour long episode. That's an hour long episode.

SPEAKER_00 36:06

Let me know the questions you want to ask them, just hit us up and we will I will be able to, you know, relay questions to the group and it'd be awesome. So thank you, Logan. As always, you're amazing. And all right, everybody. Good night. See you next time.