Redshirting, Rejections & a Career Coach in Canada; The Update You Asked For!

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Several of our listeners reached out wanting to know what happened with Jeff's interviews — and this week on Laughing Through the Uncomfortable we are giving you the full update 

The dream company? Ghosted him after two rounds. The parent company menswear role? Also a no. The follow up emails asking for feedback? Ghosted again. But here is the thingm, he is not giving up and he is not the same person who walked into those first interviews either 💪

This week Jeff connects with a brand new career coach — this time one who actually speaks the language of buying and merchandising — and she changes everything. From rebuilding his resume to asking the one question nobody had asked him before — why do you actually want to work for this brand? — she gives him a roadmap that finally makes sense 🎯

Plus Jeff lands a LinkedIn mentor who vibes with him immediately and gets flagged to HR at a new company within two hours of sending an email using his new coach's template 🔥

We also tease what is coming up — a very special guest who works with neurodivergent kids (when we can coordinate schedules), the long awaited dating app update and the three brothers Q&A that our listeners have been asking for 👀

If you have been grinding through a tough job search and wondering when it is going to click — this one is for you ❤️

Got questions for Jeff, Ben and Logan? Email us at laughingthroughuncomfortable@gmail.com — we have been collecting them and we cannot wait 🎙️

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Hello and welcome to another episode of Laughing Through the Uncomfortable. This is Julie and Jefferson. Okay. Yes. Anybody ever wonders that he's not a Jeffrey? He is a Jefferson. So there you go. Yes. Uh okay. So I've had a few of our listeners inquire that emailed us because I realized, and I'm sorry for all of you who are hanging on, about the outcome for those what it was like four interviews that you had for assistant merchandising or assistant to move into the career that you want. And like the outcome of those. So how did those interviews go?

SPEAKER_00 0:32

My God. Let's start with the let's start with my parent parent company. It was it was really interesting, is that the recruiter was so happy that I contacted her and she connected me with another associate merchant who basically did women's, and then that one fell through, unfortunately, because the questions I was prepared for the questions, but they were still that he still he studies men's fashion. Maybe he might not be a good fit. And then the then they apparently found someone who had merchandising corporate experience. I'm like, okay. The recruiter reached out back within a week. They they've all communicated with me within a week, and that one fell through. I'm like, I don't care. And then another one came came back. It was actually a menswear category for the parent parent company. I'm like, all right, cool, let's do it. Which one? It was for like a factory type of situation. It's like the outlet stores, like where all the cheap shit goes after the session.

SPEAKER_01 1:30

But they're not cheap shit, they're the designers.

SPEAKER_00 1:32

It's mom, it's polyester, it's plastic. When you go to a factory store, it's all plastic. But I think I made a one has their own opinions. But I did that absolute interview, half an hour. I was asked the same questions that the other interviewer asked me, and I was a little prepared. But again, they didn't like my answers. Basically, tell me about yourself, walk me through your resume, uh, tell me about this type of assortment. Uh, what would you predict for summer of 2025 in menswear? And I'm like, I gave all the answers I could. I was very, I was very positive. I was honest. You know what's so weird the correlation for all these interviews was I was being myself. And my career coach at the time, and the interviewing coach before I found the new one told me that if they don't like who you are, then it wasn't meant to be. Well, the thing is, I understand that, but I I want to work for them.

unknown 2:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:24

You know, it's like a D1 college. You if they reject you, you gotta do something, right? So I then reached back out to the recruiter about a potential another assistant merchant role and completely ghosted me. No one contacted me, absolutely ghosted me. I I contacted all of the associate merchants that were possibility guessing, like all men's, women, children, absolutely ghosted me. I haven't heard back from this role within two weeks, so like fucking, I gave up on it. And then all the people else come completely ghosted me. The thing is, I have a background in sociology, so I know how to I know how to interview and find people. So that's the one thing I learned about my degree is that if you want to get interviews, you gotta find people, you gotta find the right connection. So that was absolute shitty.

SPEAKER_01 3:10

So after you interviewed with, I don't know, now I'm in a different industry. So typically in my industry, after you interview, and if you don't get the position, you send a thank you for your time email communication to the person that interviewed you, basically saying thank you for your time, and you would appreciate any tips or any advice on maybe, you know, what they could say on the reason why you didn't get the interview, like why you didn't get the job. And I mean, I when I was in a position for hiring people, they would send me those emails. I, you know, I basically would I would stay at like a 10,000 foot view, like really high, but I would give them like little tips on what they could do to improve their interview skills because I always appreciated that. Did you do that? Did you send emails to any of those people?

SPEAKER_00 3:58

I did. I sent a thank you email, and then a week after I wanted to do a follow-up email of any improvements, and both those merchant and associate merchant completely ghosted me. So I'm like, at this point, I don't want to burn the bridge with this parent parent company that I work for. I don't want to up and quit, but no, you can't because you can need to you need a job.

SPEAKER_01 4:21

I need to pay rent.

SPEAKER_00 4:22

I need to pay rent. But the thing is, it's like it's where I'm located. I I'm on the I'm on the west coast. They're on the east coast, and they're like, oh, we work efficiency. We want someone to up and run. I'm like, and then I immediately got a notification on LinkedIn and all these other people, like both merchant, both sister merchant thinking they're new hires now, not even 22 or 23 yet. They're so young. Well, you know, it's internships. They have internships, they don't have retail experience. They all they have they have only internships, and I'm like, that's great, that's great, awesome. Like, I know more.

SPEAKER_01 5:02

Let me ask you something. Uh huh. I mean, this is uh lapping through the uncomfortable. Oh yeah, I got my coffee into yeah, you know, about neurodivergence and you know, ADD and ADHD and auditory processing, that kind of thing with your social skills and do you feel that, you know, neurodivergent with having to think about an answer once they ask you the question, do you feel that that is at all hindering? Like, do you feel that these people just they they're losing patience with you because you're thinking about your answer? Or I mean, do you think that that has anything to do with it? Not that, not that it should. I'm not saying it should, but I mean, let's be honest. We were all, I was just at a party or get together with some friends, and we were talking about the unconscious bias that people have, and and everybody's like, unconscious bias? I don't have any unconscious bias. I'm like, are you freaking kidding me? Everybody has it, regardless of if you think you have it or not, right? And do you think that that played a role at all?

SPEAKER_00 6:02

No, it did not play a role. I I knew I knew that I needed to have all my questions within a 30 seconds to a minute, and I I aced that in a whole I timed myself, I did interview prep, I watched myself in the mirror, I made sure that I did not do uns or ims or filler words. It's just sometimes I don't match the vibe. It's the vibes, it's the vibes of all these. The thing is, it's a master's program. My my career, my new career coach told me it is not your master's. It's uh it has to do with me. It's something with me. I think I'm not like I'm not showing up a new enough personality. It's like do I have to be kidding me?

SPEAKER_01 6:46

So wait, okay, so all right, so you didn't get so for our listeners, you didn't get any of those positions, but you've learned a lot going through those interviews, right?

SPEAKER_00 6:53

Oh my god, I learned so much.

SPEAKER_01 6:54

Yeah. Okay, and then so now you're talking about this new career coach that you now you connected with. So the first career coach was more of a general career coach, right? Just like in general, with like no like it's not like a specialty of fashion, but just in general, correct? Like a corporate, right? You were saying obviously she helped you with, you know, helping you improve your interview skills, but then you said by the second meeting, you just I don't you don't think that she just really understood your industry. It wasn't like she helped you, she just you just needed somebody more specific for your industry, right? Which led you to this new career coach, right?

SPEAKER_00 7:28

Yeah, it was the social media app that I used that listened to my conversation last time I had it. And I'm like, I need a career coach who knows buying, who knows fashion, and who actually knows corporate interviewing skills.

SPEAKER_01 7:43

So then everything on your feed was all about career coaches that knew about buying and that's when I went to the show. It's big brothers listening all the time.

SPEAKER_00 7:51

All the time. No, seriously, it's scary. But that's when I found her, and then I sent her an email. I paid for one hour, it was like 200 and 200 and something dollars. I paid for her on her website, and it was great. I had I had to like So you met with her? I met with her. I met I met I met with her last week.

SPEAKER_01 8:12

Well, what would she say that was different than the other one?

SPEAKER_00 8:15

He was well the thing is she honestly, she's like she kept asking uh she asked me, how how did you find me? Like in like the social media app literally told me about you and and she's she's located out of out of another country up up north, Canada.

SPEAKER_01 8:33

In Canada?

SPEAKER_00 8:34

Yeah. Okay. And she's basically a headhunter, recruiter slash buyer for those main companies in Canada.

SPEAKER_01 8:42

Like but she but she's a mentor?

SPEAKER_00 8:44

Yeah, she has her own company. Fucking phenomenal. And and she like she like after our session, she's maybe you could relocate to Canada. That's I don't I don't have a passport, unfortunately. I have one, but I have to update it. It's been it's been like three years since I've had it.

SPEAKER_01 8:59

It's not expired.

SPEAKER_00 9:01

It is, it's been expired like ten years.

SPEAKER_01 9:04

Oh my gosh. You then you need to get it done. I have all the paperwork. I just have to fill out, I just have to fill it out. Yeah, it's all on done. It's all online now. It's all online. Seriously, like I just did my okay.

SPEAKER_00 9:14

Next time I come up, you need to show me.

SPEAKER_01 9:16

Okay, I will have your father.

SPEAKER_00 9:18

I am tech savvy and more quantitative data analysis Google shit.

SPEAKER_01 9:23

But you need to bring you'll need to bring your passport with you because there's some information on the passport that you need to enter on the website. But it's all online. Like it's all online. Like we did it for my to update, you know, to update mine to get my new one like eight months ago. And we did it all online. I know we die, I know we're digressing, but we'll get we'll get back to the career coach. And everything's online, you pay whatever, but I don't know if it's the same way if you're expired. We'll have to figure that one out, anyways. Okay, so let's just say in a pretend world that you have a valid passport.

SPEAKER_00 9:58

I have a passport and this hypothetical.

SPEAKER_01 10:03

Have you thought about maybe relocating to Canada?

SPEAKER_00 10:06

Never.

SPEAKER_01 10:07

Okay. You found this lady in Canada. Once you established how you found her, blah, blah, blah. What did she say? Like, what did she say differently? Did she give you any more better advice?

SPEAKER_00 10:17

What she did. She was more of like just trying to understand where I'm coming from. She basically answered me a she asked me a question of first of all, Jeff, do you know buying, merchandising, planning, and allocation are all different things? And in a way, I know, but she also said, like, your resume says fashion merchandiser. It means you're more of like visual store. You need to like update this stuff of information. I'm like, you know what? I did. She gave me basic like my LinkedIn, my resume, my like how the way I could should perceive Sith. I bought her templates.

SPEAKER_01 10:53

How wait, how you perceived yourself? You said you kind of mumbled on that one.

SPEAKER_00 10:57

My how yeah, how you perceive yourself. She'll she basically, in a way, in our next session, when I when I meet with her, she basically asked me, like, hey, I need you to figure out what you want.

SPEAKER_01 11:08

Because haven't I been telling you that all along? You need to figure out what you want to do.

SPEAKER_00 11:11

Well, the thing is, I wanted to be a merchant or be a buyer. I I wanted to be both. But you can only be one thing.

SPEAKER_01 11:18

Yeah, you can.

SPEAKER_00 11:19

Your master's is gonna get you to where you need to be, but you need to figure out and hone that path path, right? Like I sent her this before we met, I sent this for this almost like age of research that I did with these companies, and she was like really astonished. She was so impressed with me of just how much I'm doing more than her other candidates that she's helping.

SPEAKER_01 11:42

Okay. So she's more impressed, which is good that she's impressed with you.

SPEAKER_00 11:46

And she basically did some we basically half an hour is just get to know who I am. 15 minutes is like like what you did to you, like some prepping questions. And she basically asked, She's literally said, Hey, I'm sorry to put you on the spot, but I'm gonna ask you this question. Tell me about my assortment of like 2026 season. And I didn't I froze, I didn't know. I I I felt so ashamed.

SPEAKER_01 12:09

But what would what would the right answer be?

SPEAKER_00 12:11

She basically told me is that she literally told me it was a trick question because you need to understand the three fundamental things. For example, if you see a sale item in the sales section, she literally told me brands do not want items in the sales section because they want items to sell fast. One is that the buyer or the buyer overshot the quality, uh, the demographic slash person uh persona persona did not want the the product, and two, it's just not in demand.

unknown 12:45

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 12:46

It's those sort of things. And she literally told me, like, hey, like when your next interview, I need you to wear this mask. Why do you want to work for them? That's the only thing that's keeping you from these brands. You like Jeff, you're like super smart, super smart, and you're very, very grounded. I need to I need you to understand why do you want to work for the brands that you're applying for? It's that it's that formula that you need to develop and find out more about merchandising, merchandising or buying in a way of like you need to find out more about that brand.

SPEAKER_01 13:18

Like if you like that one company, you need to find out more about that company. And you know, it's funny because your brother's, you know, interviewing, he's trying to get hired out of the fire department, and that's one of the questions that they ask is why this department, right? Because there's like thousands of departments in the United States, thousands, I don't know, thousands, but like, you know, and it's like, okay, every, you know, every fire department has a fire engine, every fire department has a fire truck, right? So it's like, okay, so what is it about this department, this city, right? Because the community pays for the fire department, right? So it's kind of like the same thing. What is it about this brand, this company that you want to work for? Why would you want to work for this company? And you have to come up with, you know, an answer that is unique enough where you stand out, right? And I think that that's what she was saying, right? You wear a mask and you have to figure out why you want to work for that brand. Why, why guess, right? Why, I don't know, let's why Banana Republic? Why do you want to, why do you want to work for a Macy's Lauren or whatever? And but I think that you answered those questions, right, with those, with the companies that you were that you had interviewed before when they'd asked you why do you want to work for this for us? Don't don't you have an am didn't you answer that? Because yeah. If I remember correctly, you had said what you why you wanted to do it, like why you wanted to work for that brand, that one that you were working that you that was your dream brand to work for, right?

SPEAKER_00 14:41

Yeah, my D1 college there.

SPEAKER_01 14:43

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:44

They didn't like me.

SPEAKER_01 14:46

No, it was probably because you didn't have any experience. So what did she say? What did she suggest? First of all, she gave you action items, like figure out which which pillar or which path you want to do, right? Merchandising or buying.

SPEAKER_00 14:58

Yeah. I mean, I I chose merchandising.

SPEAKER_01 15:00

Okay. So what is merchandising?

SPEAKER_00 15:03

Merchandising is the literally the cog in the machine. They're the ones who support the planning, the actual buyers, the designers, just fulfilling permit purchase orders, negotiating with vendors, or basically communication. Like, for example, the buying department wants this, and then I have like the merchant have to like then fill out a purchase order and allocate life cycle type of thing to them. And it's it's very simple, but still understanding that from the interviews I'm doing.

SPEAKER_01 15:38

So I think think, I think she was smart in telling that you need to figure out which one you want to do, right? And then once you figure out which one you want to do, you actually really truly have to understand that role. And I know that you understand that role in your brain, but nobody's ever asked you to verbalize that role, right? So when you are supposed to verbalize the role and you're, you know, tell me why you want to be a merchandiser and tell me what you believe a merchandiser does, you know, quickly tell me what you think a day in a life is of a merchandiser. You're gonna have to really truly understand that role inside and out. But not only in your brain, like you already know because you've been living this job for how many, you know, years and working on your master's in merchandising. So you know what the job is. But I think the problem is you've never had to verbalize it. Your first job coach said, Well, tell me about yourself, and you you really didn't know what to say about yourself. And she's like, Okay, that's the problem. You have to be comfortable in your own skin to be able to And she told you sit in front of a sit in front of a mirror and record yourself with, you know, and and try and get a bullet item and talk about yourself. You have to do the same thing about merchandising and that role. And you have to do research on that company on what those merchandisers do, right? So, as an example, when I was the administrator on duty at this huge health system, I was responsible for everything. When I was on duty, I had to do everything. I had to worry about schedules. I had to worry about how many nurses and you know, how you know, I didn't do the scheduling on all of the different floors on all the different units. I had a team to do it, but they often called me and said, Hey, we have this, we have this, what do I need to do? Should I call a float in? Should I do this? Should I do that? I had to, I mean, the whole hospital, everything, right? The whole everything from which patient in the ER gets moved up to whatever bed is available, which trauma I need to bring in. I ever I was responsible for everything compared to another administrator on duty at another health system. All they did was make sure that the patient flow from the ER, you know, admits up to whatever floor was they they just that's all they did. That's all they were responsible for. They didn't do anything else in the hospital. That's all they did, right? I mean, that's a big job, but I'm not discrediting anybody. But what I'm saying is every single health system has a different process. Even though the name of the job is the same, they have different processes. So I think that that's what your recruiter was saying was, or your job coach was saying. You have to do the background on that company and make sure you understand what that merchandiser, what they actually do in that job in that company, because it could be different for another company. Does that make sense?

SPEAKER_00 18:17

It makes perfect sense.

SPEAKER_01 18:19

Yeah, I think that that's what she was trying to say.

SPEAKER_00 18:22

That's in some way, yes. That's why I'm interviewing different brands right now to find a just find referrals and just trying to see what they do so that way I can get a good correlation of what they do, what merchandisers do.

SPEAKER_01 18:37

True. That one is daily life.

SPEAKER_00 18:39

So to that way I can answer that question, what does a merchant do? Because again, other other companies do different things.

SPEAKER_01 18:47

Yeah. But I also think that like when you practice and you do your research and you start talking and verbalizing out loud and you record what you say, um, it helps you, especially with your auditory processing, because a lot of times you think about, you have to think about your answer and you have to put your sentences together in your brain. And that takes a minute for you to think about. And a lot of people are uncomfortable with that silence, especially when you're interviewing, that, you know, they kind of say, okay, you're gonna answer the question kind of a thing. So I think that the more you understand and the more practice that you go through with this interview process, I think it's gonna be easier for you to answer and understand what that role is, especially like I said, with your auditory process. And we don't ever do diagnoses, I know, but you know, sometimes, you know, it's hard. And sometimes you you use vocabulary that mix up words when you, when you use you're you're thinking of one word, but another word comes out of your mouth and you're like, no, no, that's not the right word, right? And but I think the more that you practice, the more successful you're going to be. And I think your new job coaches was spot on with you. You are super smart, you've been in the industry, you understand how the industry works. It's just you need somebody that you interview with to believe that you can do the job. And I think right now, I don't know. I don't know what the what the issue is. I don't know what the barrier is.

SPEAKER_00 20:04

Honestly, it takes a it takes a lot of courage and self-awareness. I think it's me. What do you mean you think it's you? It's me of like how I'm doing interviews. So I'm going to stop applying to jobs, and I'm just mostly going to focus on my career coach and just start practicing and just finish my masters because that next hiring stage is not until September. So there's January. June is okay. That's where it softens, but September's the next. So I think at this point, mom, I just need to just practice. Stop being a redshirt and just fucking practice.

SPEAKER_01 20:37

Okay. So for those of you listening to this podcast, laughing through the uncomfortable, Jeff has mentioned D1 and Redshirt. And the reason why he's mentioning the D1 college and the redshirt is both of his brothers were college athletes. And we talked about the redshirting and you know, and the redshirt in a in a ath in a sport is just that for whatever reason you're not on the roster that it gives you another year of eligibility. So he's well right. So but that's I'm just explaining. Okay, I think that's a good plan. And I and I also think that um I think if you focus on finishing your masters and you focus on working with this career coach in I don't know if she does mock interviews. You know, have her if she it sounds like she is willing to do mock interviews with you and have her help you refine in your your answers, right?

SPEAKER_00 21:24

Yeah, I'm gonna be paying like two hundred dollars for for that hour. So yeah, of course she's gonna do mock interviews. I'm paying for it.

SPEAKER_01 21:30

I know, but you don't have to do it every week.

SPEAKER_00 21:32

Not every week, but I'm like every like two weeks. Like she does a half an hour. She has half an hour for like $75, and then she has like 45 minutes for like $125, and then she has an hour for like a hundred like two hundred dollars.

SPEAKER_01 21:45

Okay, but you don't have to do an hour, you can do a half an hour.

SPEAKER_00 21:48

Yeah, just do like check ins, stuff like that. Like weekly check ins. I like that.

SPEAKER_01 21:52

And then like what you do is you do like a half an hour check in, and then on every half an hour, right before the end of the half an hour, she just gives you like Like a mock question to answer, and you just on the cusp, and then you answer it, and then she'll go, Okay, well, that's a good answer. However, this would be better. And then you can start slowly working on that, right? Like it's exercising, you know, it's exercising your brain kind of a thing. So the other thing is, I know you were talking about before on the last podcast, we talked about how you were trying to get you found like a mentor online at LinkedIn and he was busy and busy, busy, busy. And you're like, I want to be, you know, respectful of your time. Can I email you the questions if it's easier? And you can just answer the questions, what I have, you know, to get the job. But since then you found a couple more, right? And what has happened with that with those mentors, which I think are awesome. All of you people out there on LinkedIn who are mentors, I think you were awesome. What happened?

SPEAKER_00 22:49

So the other guy was I try to reach out to more like older merchants in the field, like merchants, senior merchants, senior buyers, somewhere like that. Nothing. So I started realigning my strategy to mainly focus on the entry level, like the assistant merchants, the associate merchants, merchant coordinators, just start from the belly, start from the mail room in a way. Finally got one. I finally got one from a very local brand. The guy was amazing. He did a career pivot, and I like that. This dude is an athlete, right? He reminds me of Ben and Logan, just the demeanor. Very like Bay Airy, athletic, college, college dude. I'm like, I kind of vibed with him. It was great. Yeah. He used to do finance months ago and then a year ago, and they did a whole pivot. And he said, fuck it. He did the did this like training program. And then he went to this fashion brand, local fashion brand, and he's been in he's been in it for a few months now. And this one was really cool. He then emailed me back for a connection. And I kind of just I kind of went back to my notes and referred to like, oh, what sport did you play? What why not why did why does finance not work for you? I just questions about him. Because in sociology, people like talking about themselves. So the best thing, honestly, honestly, of this whole thing, like I'm interviewing people, but honestly, I could could probably possibly make some business friends or professional friends in this type of way. You know, you don't know, you know, like it'd be really cool to potentially have a f make a friend in this whole ideal. But yeah, he gave you another connection and I sent his friend an email at the parent client company, and again it's the weekend, so I may hear back Monday or Tuesday, but I'm looking forward to that connection.

SPEAKER_01 24:45

Well, that's good. So you're gonna continue to do that. That sounds good. Sounds like that guy was good.

SPEAKER_00 24:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:51

Well, okay, so what's on the horizon for you? Are you still looking for any positions that do open during this time that you would put in for, or are you just not looking at any new positions? You just applying. Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 25:03

I'm applying more fully just for uh for experience. Fix I'm doing everything on my rear on my new career coaches templates. Actually, this new this new job that I that I applied for about a couple of days ago. I found all the hiring managers that were related to this one job in the Bay Area. None of them responded, but apparently this other like head of another department reposted the job, like, okay, you're the hiring manager. So I immediately reached out to that person. Not even three hours back. I I did I did a quick template because I knew the company already. So I did I helped I had my AI helped me a little bit with research, and I put everything together, and not even two hours, she literally said, Thank you so much for the email. I love the eagerness. I will flag you, I will flag you to the HR so that way they can email you directly, so that way if you are right, initial thing, and I'm gonna send a thank you. Thank you email to them. So yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:02

Yeah, yeah. Perfect.

SPEAKER_00 26:04

This is this week, so I don't know. It might take a couple weeks, but yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:06

Well, that's okay. We'll we'll do it. That is awesome. Well, I uh I I think that you're on the right track, and I think that I'm glad that you have a career coach that is specialized in your industry because I think that uh her looking at your resume and basically telling you, okay, you have to choose which which one do you want to do, buyer or merchandiser. And you know, I I think that she speaks the same language that you do when it comes to that industry because every every industry has a different language, and I think that that's a really positive thing. So that's really good, right?

SPEAKER_00 26:36

Yeah, I'm super excited. So yeah. I sent her an I sent her an email. I sent my career codes an email of of the job that I that I applied for for the quick response to. I haven't heard of it. This is during this is Friday. This is Friday, Saturday. Again, I won't hear back from her probably Monday or Tuesday. But the thing is, Thursday, Wednesday probably. Because she has other she has other clients, and I understand. But the thing is, I'm what I need to I need to really sit down with her. I'm like, hey, I need your help here. Yeah. Because your template got me in quickly.

SPEAKER_01 27:08

Yeah, 100%. I think you should. So that's good. So let us know. I want our listeners to know that um we have received a few questions, uh, which is what brought this this episode up was to get everybody up to speed because I realized that we left you in limbo um with Jeff and all of the interviews that he went through. One of our friends, we were together on Saturday, Jeff and I were, and we ran into an old friend of ours that we've known forever, and he is working at a school with mild to moderate uh behavior kids that are neurodivergent, and uh, it was amazing. So I'm thinking we're gonna try and schedule him to come on so we can talk to him about his experience and things that he's doing because I think he's the athletic director of the school. So I think that's awesome, right, Jeff? So that's coming up in the next couple weeks. I don't know when we're gonna try and schedule them, but we also need to go back and circle around to your dating app. And I also was talking to your brother. I know, I was talking to Ben and Logan, and I think we should I I really, really want to get the three of you guys together because I have collected questions from our listeners. You guys, I got those questions. I'm just trying to figure out how to uh, you know, it's kind of like herding caps. We have Logan who's in in the south or on the east coast, and we have Ben who works uh shift work, and we have Jeff who works the, you know, typical sales schedule. So I'm trying to get everybody together. So bear with me. But um I have tons of questions. If you want to ask questions about to the three boys, about whatever you would like to know about them, um, or about what's going on or how it was growing up with Jeff or, you know, anything at all, you could always email us, like I said, laughingthroughuncomfortable at gmail.com. Anyway, thank you, Jeff, and I'm excited. So we will see you in a couple weeks. Thank you for those who have sent us questions. And we're always available on Instagram and Facebook. And this is Laughing Through the Uncomfortable. Thank you for joining us, and until next time, have a great day.