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Episode 6: "First Date Crack"
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07:20 – TSA chaos in Houston
17:27 – Pooh Shiesty arrested for armed robbery and kidnapping of Gucci Mane
24:30 – The internet is arguing the validity of Tupac being a “gangster”
34:11 – Brandy says Wanye from Boyz II Men dated her as a minor
54:05 – Latto gets pregnant by 21 Savage and faces backlash
01:04:20 – Ari Lennox surprised that her success isn’t more attractive to men
01:23:53 – Leslie Jones says marriage is slavery
01:35:15 – Biggest misconception women have about men in 2026
01:47:36 – Should your past be relevant while dating
01:52:20 - She turned down my proposal but still wants to be together
01:58:53 – I love you but I want to wait until marriage
Welcome to another episode of Trill Academy. We invite y'all to pour up your liquor, pull out your notepad, pull up a chair, tell a friend to tell a friend. Get a little congregation going together because it's gonna be one of them ones.
SPEAKER_02We definitely feel that way.
SPEAKER_01For sure.
SPEAKER_02Which episode is this? Six? Yes, sir. Episode six, man. Back in the game. Feel good to be back, brother. How you holding up? I'm holding, man. I'm holding.
SPEAKER_01You know, a lot going on.
SPEAKER_02To say the least.
SPEAKER_01You know what I mean? Um yeah, man, just you know, you just know you gotta make a way. Right. Fight through it, push through it, and just deliver. That's really what I'm focused on. I don't know exactly how that's gonna look. But uh, yeah, it's just one of them situations where, you know, you gotta put your head down and get to work.
SPEAKER_02Think about everybody going through something, dog. Everybody going through something, dealing with something big in one aspect or another, man. Um, for everybody that's listening is going through something, bruh. Stay the course. Trust in you, trust in your abilities, uh, trust in your ability to improvise and be resourceful. Um, because trials and tribulations are gonna come. I don't give a damn how good life seems right now is coming. But also the measure of you is how you move in those moments. So, you know, this is gonna be a this gonna be a, you know, same, same scenario, brother. I mean, if everybody listening, soon, soon y'all gonna know, but we're gonna keep it under wrap for now.
SPEAKER_01Um And take time for yourself, too. Right. That's nothing, man. Take that time for yourself. If you got a full-time job and you got vacation, use it. ASAP. If you got sick time, use it. You're sick, you're not feeling well today. Uh. Use it. Like every opportunity that you can, man, because man, jobs, you know, niggas don't give a damn.
SPEAKER_02Bruh, when you leave, it's gonna be somebody walk right in the next week. They go post that bitch that day. It's gonna keep moving, man. I remember I was I was working for a company, that lady I was working there 20 years. She ended up passing, um, and within two days, they had somebody in her seat. They sent the email out. Hey, y'all, you know, just want to wish such and such well, the family going through a hard time, boom, boom, boom. That was it. Two days later, it was nobody new in our spot, and the ship kept rolling. So I think, you know, a lot of jobs be trying to do that intensely, try to make you feel guilty for taking off, or try to make you feel guilty for making personal decisions or having other ventures outside of the job or whatever the case may be. Do all that. Do all of that. That job is not your identity, that job is not your life. That's just real, that job is a stepping stone to something else. You know, I heard a very, very rich man say that your nine to five is an investment to what you're really supposed to be doing.
SPEAKER_01Yes, sir.
SPEAKER_02That's just what it is. But you got a lot of people out here who let their job dictate their life and lose a lot of years. And you look up and you're 40, and you ain't never tried nothing for yourself, ain't never did nothing for yourself, because you look around at everybody who's successful and everybody who got money, they entrepreneurs. You don't get rich working for a company. That's just not how that works. Unless you make incredible investments. You understand, which most people are not that financially literate to do, but in terms of making significant income, big amounts, nice nest dig, nice portfolio, all of those things. A lot of times you gotta start your own company to really hit those millions and things of that nature. So for everybody that got their side hustle going, keep it going. Keep pouring into it, keep keep pouring into you, more importantly.
SPEAKER_01Man, it reminds me of um, real quick, that it was a guy that like he worked at like Burger King or something like that. I don't know if you remember, that went viral a while back. Bro was there for like 30, 40 years or something crazy. Right. And never missed work. Right. Never called in. For his anniversary, they gave that boy like a Snickers bar and like some gave a nigga a Ziploc bag with some shit. Side of fire. For all those years, out of your damn mind. Out of your damn mind. But I think like, I want to say some people like end up raising some money for him or something like that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that'll go find out.
SPEAKER_01Because it went viral, but the company, like, that's what they think about you at the end of the day. Most companies, that's what it no matter what you doing for them, unless you like, you gotta be like CEO or next to the CEO when you then transform the whole company. And that's because you gotta part in, you know, giving yourself some of that. Right. But if you like just working, you a manager, you low on the totem pole, they don't give a damn about you.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, because it's like, and even within those companies, the people who's supposed to be in the leadership and managerial positions are not there. Just put it, you know, you got people, just like you said, bro have been working there 20 years. He should be a manager, he should be a regional director, he should be something. But they'll bring in an outsider who has no idea as to how this company runs, no idea as to the culture of the company, and just put them in charge of leading and expect people who've been there 20 years to just go along with what they say, even though that person that's new gotta get their tutelage from the person who's been there 20 years. So why not just give that person the role? But you know, that makes too much sense. And that's just not the side society we live in. So I think, you know, the irony is I was I was reading something, man, and they was talking about our generation is the first generation of people who intentionally change jobs every three to five years. They said back in the day, you know, people, you know how it goes people working at the steel mill, people working at the factory, people doing this. I'm trying to get 20, 30 years in, retire, get my uh Rolex that they give you for all of that, nice little pension, and and get out the way. But these days, one income is not gonna take care of a family. That's just what it is, you know what I mean? So even if you as a man paying all the bills, there gotta be multiple streams coming in in order for y'all to live comfortable with life. It's gonna be real tight, and you know that that's just what it is. But they were saying our generation changes jobs intensively every three to five years to force upward mobility.
SPEAKER_01It gets to, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Because it's like bro that been there 20 years. He should have been in the elevated, you understand? But a lot of times that's that ceiling for elevation is solid, you know what I mean? It's low. And they're not going to you down there got to threaten to leave the company to get promoted. That we're just gonna be honest.
SPEAKER_01Unfortunately. Yep.
SPEAKER_02Even though you come there, do your job at a high level every day, you get along with everybody. Anything they ask you to do, you're working overtime, you're working extra, you're picking up shifts, you're doing a bunch of different things that you don't necessarily have to do. But that's not getting taken into you know account. They literally go outside and find somebody with no tenure at all within that culture and bring them in, and now they're your boss. So why give loyalty to somebody that don't give loyalty to you? Sick it then. It's just what it is. I mean, especially today, it's hard, man. Just everything hard. Traveling is hard shit. TSA lines in Houston, man.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. You know a little bit about that. You wanna talk about your experience with TSA and everything, man? Yeah. Because before, when when it first happened in November, we didn't really get affected by it. They did have the lines around and things like that, but this time it was on another level. It's treacherous, oh yeah, man. It was yeah.
SPEAKER_02I done been, we have been to IAH in Houston. For those who don't know, this podcast is based in Houston. I'd be saying a lot of people, man, I thought I was in Atlanta. No, no, we're not in Atlanta, it's based in Houston. So a lot of times when we're flying, we're flying out of IAH, which is George Bush. You know, everybody in Houston. That's what we call it, Bush Airport. And me and O have been there a hundred times at least. Um never have I ever waited that long in security. When I when I first got there, right, because I didn't really believe the hype. Because the week before, we had flew smoothly. It wasn't no situation. But then, you know, we're watching the news. They tell me, yeah, it's it's four hour waits. It's it's five hour waits. And I'm like, man, ain't no way. You understand? So I go on the Bush website and I see your pre-check is closed. Clear is closed. And not only that, you gotta check your bag at terminal C. And walk. And you gotta go to catch the shuttle to security at terminal A or E. And then catch shuttle to whatever gate you're flying out of. So it's a lot of movement there, you understand? So even still. And I ain't no small airport either. Huge, massive. For anybody who never flew a bush, they already know. But I get there, park my car. You know, I got my little, you know, I had, I had I was forced to check a bag. So, man, I walk in there, and they got caution tape. You know how like somebody gets shot or something, they got caution tape blocking off the whole street. They got caution tape, man-making lines that snake all the way up to places we used to just walk right in and walk right up to. Check the bag, boom, walk right to security, maybe 20, 30 people on a bad day, 50 people in front of you or whatever. Um, and you know, I mean, normally we pre-check, so it's 10, 5 typically. Shit, you walked in there, everybody is gym pop. Ain't no exceptions unless you're 1K. And I'm I I fly United, I'm platinum on United. And uh, but yeah, they was like, Yeah, if you're not 1K, because 1K had his own separate thing in C, Terminal C. Okay. And over there, I looked over there, and it was maybe like 50 people on the security. I'm like, I try to chance it. I ain't gonna lie. I go up to the lady, I was like, look, man, I'm I'm platinum on it. Yeah, I'm so sorry. We can't, you're gonna have to catch the shuttle to A or E. So I'm like, damn, alright, bet. So I go to the shuttle, catch the shuttle, and as we're driving around, if anybody who ever been to Bush, they got the shuttles that are kind of underground. Like, and you traveling and you go into Terminal B, going to Terminal A, going to Terminal, whatever, and you get off wherever your gate is. As we get into the security, I'm seeing a line while I'm on the shuttle. I'm passing by people. It look like it look like when you go to an amusement park and like the biggest ride there that everybody wanna do, like how that line looks. To where they gotta create a line, to where like this line is so long, to where if we just let it be, it's gonna, it's gonna blockade the rest of the park. So they had people, I'm talking about, I'm riding the shuttle, you just see people's faces in pure desperation. They just backpack song, they just like you see people looking at their watches and shit. I'm like, damn. So when I get out, I ask the person, I say, hey man, how long the way? He says, Man, I'm gonna be honest with you, brother, it's gonna be about two hours. I'm like, hold on, man. But to my credit, I got there early. Just in case. You know what I mean? And it was every bit of two and a half hours.
SPEAKER_01Now, when you say you got there early, we talking about four hours early.
SPEAKER_02Probably like three and a half early.
unknownOkay, okay.
SPEAKER_02I I got there at 315, I think my flight left at 640 or something like that. Okay. And so when I got there, check my bag, caught the shuttle to the security, and then you you get in the security line, you know, that's where you, anybody who ain't never been to the airport, security line is where you give them your license, they bring you through, you put your bag on the scanner, it goes to the machine, you take off your shoes if you're not pre-check, all of those things go through the monitor, all of that. I was in that line to do that for two and a half hours. Strong. And it was a snake type of thing that they had created in there. So you literally, and the wild part about it is the line was moving. Right. It wasn't like we standing still for five, ten minutes, like damn, it's crazy. It was just a lot of people there. So it's like you literally, I'm talking about every 30 seconds, you taking a couple steps, taking a couple steps, taking a couple steps. You look up like, bro, we ain't got nowhere. And then you look down the snake of the line and like, oh, we gotta go all the way there too.
SPEAKER_01Bro. And then when you get in, okay, so you said y'all can only go to A or E. Right. Then you had to walk to C. Well, or did you fly out of?
SPEAKER_02I flew out of what I flew out of. I flew out of B.
SPEAKER_00Oh damn.
SPEAKER_02So I had to go through security, get back on the shuttle, go to B. Yes, sir. Now, once you get out of security, everything smooth.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02But it's just security, security is strong. But but that was that was a good day. Because one of my cast mates, you know, I'm not gonna name and put up, you know, put their business out there, but she tried to fly um and missed her flight because of the security, and the first thing smoking was at well, she tried to catch a late flight, missed that flight because of security, and had to spend a night at the airport to try to hit that early 6 a.m. first thing smoking out of there, or whatever, end up missing the show and everything. So like it's a it's a real thing. And even another one of my, you know, one of my castmates had got there before me, and he posting video of because when I got there, the line was just at the top. Now it was a long line, right? But it was just on the top floor. Anybody who's been to Bush or in Terminal E, it's two floors to it. That's not bad. Right. Once you get there. Once you get there. Yeah. But that's what I say. When I got there, it wasn't nobody on the on the bottom floor. So I'm thinking, all right, bet. I'm good. But it was a two and a half hour wait just on top floor. When I got to top floor, I was like, damn. I got to look at all these people, like, damn. I mean, it's it, but it's still a good situation, so I so I couldn't complain.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I seen niggas was on the bottom floor and wrapped around.
SPEAKER_02There you go. And NASA. There you go.
SPEAKER_01That's treacherous.
SPEAKER_02That's the four and a half, five hours that they're talking about. Yeah. So I I didn't necessarily have to deal with that. I was thankful. But two and a half hours of security is still outrageous. That's crazy. But updated today, or as a matter of fact, as we're recording this, pre-check is now available. So hey, I ain't tripping, baby. We back. But yeah, that was that was that was humbling. I ain't went through gym pop in a long time.
SPEAKER_01That's wild, bro. That's yeah, I wouldn't wish it on nobody. And I was thankful that I wasn't traveling. Cause I'm like, that shit is just looking at the like before last year was one thing. Right. And just seeing that stuff and seeing how the lines were. But I'm like, bro, if you had to go through, it's like it was like two times that this time around. Definitely. And you had to go downstairs. I I seen the line. Somebody did like a little slow-mo video, but you know, they sped it up. Bro, that shit was down the hall, like going wrapped around the outside. I'm talking about. And that's to get through security.
SPEAKER_02Bro, I'm talking about because I parked in terminal A. So when I went, so I had to catch, go through a crowd of people to get to the shuttle to get to C to check the bag. Right. But if you you know how terminal A is like when you get out of there, like you catch the elevator down from the garage. When I got off the elevator, it was people there already. Like I didn't even get into the terminal yet. I'm on the little hallway. You know, the hallways they got the statues and all of that. Uh, you know, the little car, the old school car that's in there, like memorabilia from Houston or whatever the case may be. It was people in line when I got off the elevator. And I was like, oh my God. So that's why I went to E. I'm like, well, damn, this is this is nuts. I ain't gonna make it over here. Let me at least try E. So I try E, walk in, I'm thinking I'm decent. I'm still two and a half. And I'm talking about one when I got out of security, it was 15 minutes to boy. I was like, thank God.
SPEAKER_01Boy.
SPEAKER_02Because it was over if I ain't making it.
SPEAKER_01Just made it. I swear. And them niggas don't be playing either no more. They shut them doors with quickness. Alright, man. So look, your boy Pooh Shisty, bro. Ah, my dog, man. Pooh Shysti got his crib rated, man. Man. What's up with that?
SPEAKER_02I seen that, man. Um, they had video of uh, you know, anybody who ever been around any crime or any, you know. We grew up in a wild place, man. And and and I was I was watching this documentary, not this interview, about Joey Merlino. Uh yeah, mobster, and Gerald Prince Miller was interviewing him. Gerald Prince Miller was a pivotal member of like the Supreme team in New York or whatever. But they ended up doing time, fair time in Beaumont.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_02And they were saying Beaumont is one of the worst federal prisons in the world. That's what I heard. Right. We grew up in close proximity to Beaumont. Yeah. Right? So I say all that to say we grew up around a lot of crime and things of that nature. I remember my next door neighbor got their career rated at 4:30 in the morning. They was over there selling some, you know, pharmaceutical products that they shouldn't have been selling. And I remember being in my living room, I'm in there just playing Madden, you know, in Port Arthur, we got screen doors. So the front door opened, but the screen closed, but you can see outside. All of a sudden I'm seeing trucks, I mean, I'm seeing vehicles. I can't even identify my trucks at the time. I'm seeing vehicles drive by with no lights. And I'm like, you know, anybody from there, you like, hold on. That ain't that that ain't never good. Right. You know what I mean? But then I see one. I'm like, all right, maybe they just forgot to cut their lights on. I see another one. And my I'm playing mad and I'm seeing this out the corner of my eye, I'm like, and another one. And another one. And I pause the game. I'm like, hold on. I pause the game, look outside. It's 10 black SUVs parked along my street in front of my house, blocking my driveway, all type of shit. And they end up running in their crib, grabbing them up, 4:30 in the morning. You know, because the feds always hit early. Always. 3:30, 4 o'clock, and that's the same scenario that Pooh Sistie was in. So the videos and stuff show a bunch of SUVs outside his crib. They show a lot of caution tape, all of that. And at the time when the story broke, they were saying that maybe it's not Pooh Shyste that they looking for. Because you know, Pooh got his family living with him, he got homies living with him, things of that nature. So, but then it came out, or like a little more information came out that said that not only, I mean, they was looking for his homies, but they looking for him too, because of a rumor that I that I heard. When Pooh Seisty first came out, anybody who's familiar with Pooh Seisty, he's a rapper out of Memphis. He was signed to Gucci Man.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_02And before he went in. When he got out, he was signed to CMG, which is a label ran by Yo Gotti. And everybody was like, How did that happen, right? So rumors came about that Pooh Sice and them basically pressed Gucci at gunpoint, and basically robbed him, forced him to let Pooh Saysee out of the contract so he could sign to CMG. So that was the rumor. Nobody ever spoke to it to deny it or verify it or whatever the case may be, like that was they're immediately involved or whatever. But in light of this fair raid, they're saying that they raided them because of that. The feds heard that. Because of the hearsay. Yeah. The feds heard that that that robbery and that strong arm will try to get Gucci to get him out of the contract actually happened. Now, mind you, that's still a rumor, but that's what the streets are saying. So it's like for me, I'm just because Pooh Sicey is one of my favorite rappers. So it's like it's it's heartbreaking to me. It's just like, damn, gang, like you, like you, you fresh out, you know, you still on papers. We gotta move smarter. And one thing that I done been noticing, man, about you know, a lot of people just growing up, and you you're familiar with this too. A lot of people who get out tend to go back. And not only do they tend to go back, they tend to go back over the same thing that they went in for before. More times than that, because that's all they know. Right. So it's like, what do you think that thought process is? Like, what what do you think that the mindset is for that? Because you would think. That if I got off of this, I don't want no parts of nothing even remotely criminal.
SPEAKER_01But that ain't the case. I don't know. I think with this situation in general, I don't know. That's what I was actually trying to wrap my head around. I'm like, was it because it was a Memphis thing? Because I know CMG, that's Memphis. Right. So was he trying to be, you know, tied up with what's closer to home versus Gucci, who in Atlanta? Like, did CMG offer him a better contract? Like, I'm just, I'm curious to know like what led you to that point to force your way and bogard your way out of that when, you know, unless it was a unless it was a bad deal. Right. That's the only thing I could think of. Like, it was a really bad deal. Because, you know, like a lot of artists, what they'll do is put a couple albums out, some little BS, just to say, I did my time. Right. With you, I'm I'm good, you know, well, wishes, whatever. But yeah, this is this. And then it's your people that's kind of next to you. That's another thing, too, that make it so, so you're not hearing that CMG had nothing to do with it. No. It was Pooh Seisty people.
SPEAKER_02They're saying it was Pooh Seisty, Big 30, who's Pooh Seisty's best friend. They're saying that they got Pooh. Pooh been in jail for like three days, and 30 is on the run. And when the rumor came out, they said it was them two that did it. Right. So. And now again, these are rumors. It ain't nothing that been confirmed, but it's like, why else would the feds be there? Because Pooh really been chilling. Like, he'd been putting, you know, he put out a couple records. Put out one that, you know, first day out, which went crazy. And then he recently put out another one. Didn't he really put it out, but it was for his gaming thing, you know, because on GTA he got his own RP. Or he got his own arena. You know how like on like they'll give certain people a replica of their neighborhood for people to get on Grand Theft Auto. Yeah. They end up giving poo sides to that. He made a song for that. Oh, that's dope. Okay. So that was the, you know, those were the two songs that he done released, and they they both went crazy. So it's just like, I'm like, damn, man. I'm I'm praying that it ain't, that that ain't true. I'm praying that bro, don't got nothing to do with this. But you just never know, don't know.
SPEAKER_01Speaking of, speaking of gangsters, man. Why they trying to do our boy Pac like that? Talking about Pac ain't no, Pac ain't no gangster. You know, but honestly, I don't even think that's I've been hearing that for a while. Like, niggas was saying, like, man, Pac went there, go back, listen to all this old stuff. You know, he was Black Panther Party. He was trying to, you know, be positive and he was, he was, he was for the people, and da da da. And then all of a sudden he went with Death Row and just switched up. He just put a whole different type of persona on, and da da da da. And I don't know. I mean, you know, I was young, so you know, I don't I didn't get to see, well, I didn't I didn't necessarily understand all that in real time.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_01Because, you know, I'm I'm brought up to I get around Dear Mama. Right, you know, you know, things like that. And um But then when, you know, then when he switched a little bit, he did get with Death Row. You did notice his lyrics changed. You did notice that, you know, he was talking about other things that he wasn't talking about before. Now he still would have a few records here and there, but it wasn't like the majority of it. But I think some of it too, I don't know, man. Some of it I think I feel like he was just like fed up with certain shit, and then, and then, you know, some of it I probably was like a little ego. But I th but it seemed like, you know, niggas was always testing them and trying them. So it was like, okay, this is not necessarily who I am, but if you need me to go this route, I can go this route and I can show you better than I can tell you. Right. That's that's kind of what I kind of got from everything because he was definitely positive and and and preaching the right stuff, and you know, bro was acting like bro was in his bag, but it was like boys kind of pushed him in that direction to kind of force him to be like bravado and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_02Man, um I think that people are misguided on what a gangster is. I think people think a gangster is what they see on TV. Somebody that's belligerent, somebody that's aggressive, somebody that's willing to shoot and rob and all of these things for no reason at all. Um, but you ask anybody who ever been in the streets or anybody who ever been close to the street, a gangster is just a man that stands on principle. Now, that principle may be misguided to somebody that's not in that life, but it's still a principle, right? Like, for instance, with gangs specifically, like there's a loyalty piece involved there. It's like we all ride together, we all one. If something happened to you, I'm gonna take it as if something happened to me, and I'm gonna handle it according to that. I'm loyal to the people around me. I'm willing to ride for the people around me. If me and you out and somebody playing with you, they playing with me. And we're gonna address it that way. That's what being a gangster is. It's just being a man of your words, being a being a stand-up guy. Whatever code or moral foundation that you stand on, not bending on that for nobody, that's what being a gangster is. And that's exactly what Tupac was. Now, in terms of gangbanging, he didn't start doing that until he joined uh Death Row. He ended up, you know, becoming M O B, Pyro, and all of that, you know, things of that nature. But his character, though, has always been that way. In terms of this is who I'm around, I'm riding for them. Is what it is. That's how Thug life started when he was a revolutionary, it was that. I'm riding for us as black people when he was, you understand, like it always been that. Like he's uh he was always been a rebel with a cause, like a revolutionary, somebody that's on go. Like anybody who's familiar with Tupac, like he ended up shooting two police officers off duty just simply because they was messing with a black man. And this is in his revolutionary era, this is before death row. So it's like he's just somebody who's always stood for something, and I'm willing to die over what I stand for. And he literally died over what he stood for. He got shot because he went to go put hands on somebody that had robbed his homie. It wasn't trying to be outside of my character. I'm trying to present myself as this and duh duh duh duh duh. That's just like me and you out, right? And somebody done robbed you last week. And we out just vibing, whatever. We at the club, whatever, whatever. You tap me, it's like, hey bro, that go dude right there who who robbed me, da-da-da-da. My mindset is gonna be like, oh bet, we about to go take care of that. And that's what happened with him in Vegas. But little did he know who he was putting his hands on, and that's what got him hit. But in terms of like his intention behind it, it wasn't to pay approve that I'm this super gangster, this, that, and the third. This is my homie saying that these dudes jumped me, they tried to take my chain, they did this, they did that, and dude standing right there. Pac said, say no more. Went right there, swung on dude. And dude ended up coming back, you know, shooting him or whatever, and then he ended up dying. But Pac's whole image has always been from day one, I'm gonna ride with who I'm with. Like whoever I'm around, whoever is my homies, I'm willing to go all out for them. And that's what being a gangster is. And like I say, you ask anybody in the street, whether it's Cosa Nostra, whether it's Crips, whether it's Bloods, whether it's whatever, GDs, BDs, whatever you consider being gangster, the foundation of it is made upon that. This thing of ours. Nobody's gonna mess with us. Like, we gonna ride for each other. Like if you go to jail, I take care of your family. Somebody mess, somebody shoots you, we go shoot them.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_02It's been that. And that's how his mind worked. So it's like for people who ain't never been close to the street, ain't never been involved in nothing, to say, oh, he ain't he was acting. He was doing this, he was doing that. It's just wild to me, coming from people who ain't never put no work in, ain't never did nothing to nobody, never rolled for none of their people. You niggas got homies that got your. I remember being in college, man. I I I I never forget this, man. It's this this this this was some wild shit. We was in college, right? And they had this fraternity party. I'm not gonna name the fraternity because I don't want to down people or whatever the case may be. But it was a fraternity party. And somebody from the fraternity had got into it with some people, right? And the dudes that he got up into it with ended up jumping him, beating them up. Now, this happened while his line brothers was at the party. Nobody jumped in and helped him, nobody did nothing. And then after it was over, oh man, can't believe they did this to our boy. Now, mind you, I'm in the party watching this as it happens, and I know who got jumped, and I know who was with him. And I'm sitting there just watching them go through these theatrics and just like, y'all, it's all for real. So when they asked me to join, I said no. I told them straight up, I said, literally, verbatim, I'd rather join Rolling 60s Crips than to join y'all fraternity because of what I seen. And it's like, my issue is the people who didn't jump in, those are the ones that are saying Tupac is not a gangster. Or that's trying to discredit Tupac or a way or say, oh no, he was soft for real. He was this, he was that. It's people like that who would watch their homie get pounded out, who or who will get robbed and don't do nothing. Yeah, Paula. Yeah, that was a little crazy. Watch their homie get stuffed out, watch they homie get robbed. Don't do nothing, but get online and just get to trying to set precedent and rules for situations that you like, come on. Yeah, that ain't that ain't never been my thing either. I'd have literally lost you like you know where I'm going. Sponsorships.
SPEAKER_01Never mind, man.
SPEAKER_00We gotta go that route. We ain't gotta go that route.
SPEAKER_01Uh so what I'm hearing, somebody wrote a book. About boys to men. Well, a guy named Mounier. Right. Boys to men. Singing boys to men, yes, sir. Miss Brandy. Brandy Norwood. She said they had some um some dealings when she was younger.
SPEAKER_02I mean, apparently Aaliyah and R. Kelly wasn't the only underage relationship going on back then.
SPEAKER_00Beyond saying JZ.
SPEAKER_02Hey, I'm hey, I'm I'm gonna bleep that out because that's unconfirmed. We're not gonna do any stand on that. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. But um, in terms of Brandy's situation, so Brandy uh recently put out a book entitled Phases. And, you know, anybody who's been watching the news cycle, Brandy's been in the news recently uh because Mace, Cameron, and Shine did an interview. And they was on her joking about how all of them had had sex with her. You know, she came out and said, Oh, such and such is capping, whatever the case may be, boom, boom. But it actually worked in her favor because it kind of helped promote the book that she was already working on. So this book ends up coming out, and one of the passages that goes viral is her speaking on her relationship when she was 16 with Wanyye from Boys to Men, who was in his 20s at the time. Now, according to her, she said that she hid the relationship from her parents. She said that they would lie and say that they wasn't in a situation. And Wanyye was still, you know, behind the scenes and biting her here. They traveling in here, they having sex, they doing this, they doing that. He was trying to control her and how she moved and all of these things. But to the public, you know, it wasn't nothing going on. But then when she turned 18, they came out and said that, hey, we're in a relationship now. Of course. So in that passage, she was like, you know, the bottom line is this it's like I may have consented to it then, but you I was a kid, and you were an adult, and that's what this boils down to. So, of course, now it's going viral, it's going crazy. Um, so mind you, I want to get your thoughts on it. Like, because it seems like during that time, it was a lot of that going on.
SPEAKER_01And it was fun, yes. Yes, a lot of that shit was going on, and it was A-OK. I've never thought that was A-OK, ever. Ever. 18, always been a legal age. Shit, even when I had my little girlfriend, I was still hesitant because I was like a year and a half older than her. Right. You know what I'm saying? I was young, but then I'm like, shit. I'm I'm 16, you know what I'm saying? She about to be 15. It's like, it's a little shaky. You know what I'm saying? Like, that was still even a little, a little rocket in me. Even because we was only a year, I mean one grade apart. Right. But her birthday was in the summer, so you know, she got, you know, school a little early. So um, I mean, I've I've always been just we but then high school, I think that's a little different because you're more close in age, but a grown ass man, 23, and then 16, that's right. Nah, they they should know better. They he should know better for sure. And that's the type of niggas that we would talk about all the time in high school. Come and pick up the girls, you know what I'm saying? It's like one of the popular girls in school, one of the fine girls in school, getting picked up by a nigga that ain't been in school in four or five years. Like this nigga 24 at prom. No. Never been acceptable, never been cool. I don't rock with it, I don't condone it. And that's also why I've been scared to have a daughter, too, because I'm gonna have to put her in the headlock. Man, I bro, it's don't lie to my no shit like that.
SPEAKER_02Bro, it's two pieces of this thing that I feel like is very, very important. Or that or that needs to be addressed. One of them is back in the day, that was very normal. Mm-hmm. You literally had men who was 22, 21. I'm talking about back in the day, I'm talking about our generation, the generation before.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And the generation before that. To where you would have a motherfucker who's 24 messing with a chick who's 15, 16. Getting married and everything. Getting married. They'll have 10 kids together, 12 kids together, and nobody never said nothing about it. You understand? Because that's just how times was back then. Now, I don't agree with that at all. I I don't, I have nothing in common with a woman who's more than two years younger than me. I I just, and I'm 36. I've always my my wife is older than me. I always value that wisdom and experience and conversation. I'm a very intellectual person, right? Anyone who's ever hung around young people, 20, 21, 19, and these are grown people that I'm naming, but anybody who's ever hung around grown people that are young know how annoying it is.
SPEAKER_01Annoying as shit. And I got much respect for the older people now. Because when I was that age, talking about, yeah, I'm grown. I'm I understand it now. I don't want to be in the same room.
SPEAKER_02Oh God. I swear.
SPEAKER_01We ain't got this, we ain't got the same issues. We ain't we can't talk about the same topics. It you still green. No. I I don't I don't want to be nowhere near if I can help it. Right. If I can help it, it's just it's a different thought process. It's just different maturity level. You know, all that is just, no, I'm cool on it. And Dayton? Hell no. Hell no.
SPEAKER_02Ain't no way. Okay, so the first thing I name was how normal it was back then. Secondly, is anybody who's been a part of this internet and a part of this red pill community and things of that nature, they have a rule in there that says the ideal woman is half my age plus seven years. Half my age plus seven years. There's a premium that they put on younger women because they say that older women have a lot of experiences that makes them resistant to leadership. To whereas young women, moldable, you can coach them, you can tell them this, you can tell them that, whatever the case may be. So I want to get your thoughts on that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, because they're gullible. They're vulnerable, they they don't know much, a lot of them. Especially if you, let's call it 21, a lady, young lady is 21, dating a guy in his late 40s. I can't see if her father's in her life, but I I can't see him letting him rock with that. Cause I'm at I'm about to slap dog shit out of. What are you doing with my daughter? What about my daughter makes you want to date her? The only thing you want about her is physical. Like, why can't you have a woman that's closer to your age? But again, I think it's part of it is manipulation. And also coming from the other side, I know women like security. Right. Um, and you know, maybe seeing the older man, they may feel just with his age and he had a little money that that's security. Um but then from the other side, you know, looking from the man's side, like the only thing the only thing I can see from that is manipulation. Like, period. Because I can tell you what to do. You're gonna listen to me, I'm gonna string you along, I'm gonna play mind games with you, because the shit that I'm doing on you can't work with the older women because they done been through it plenty of times. So I'm the I'm the first mature guy that you've been with, and so I'm gonna try to set the record straight. I'm gonna try to, and hey, some of y'all old niggas might get mad at me. I I don't give a damn. Y'all, it's wrong. Period. I don't think the only the only big age gap to me that's that's understandable and doable, to me, this is my opinion, if you like in your 40s, late 30s in your 40s, you know, 38, 48. You know what I mean? Like that, okay. But you you being 30 and dating somebody 21 and nah man. That's just that's just not for me. I just can't understand it. Right.
SPEAKER_02I agree. I mean, I I'd have gotten plenty of arguments on a lot of these panels and things of that nature with people who swell by that. Like, they like, nah, it's like I want to have a woman who's younger. Now, now this is the argument that that they gave me, right? They gave the moldability argument, the teachable argument, and then they gave the fact that older women struggle to get pregnant. So, from a reproductive argument, that was number two. And then number three was also dating a younger woman helps keep them young, meaning that she has a fresh perspective, she wants to try new things, all of that. So it keeps him kind of on edge and kind of young and kind of really trying new things, whatever the case may be. Now, all of these perspectives I heard, and I didn't, it didn't budge my opinion, right? And then how I would counter that is I would ask them, I said, okay, cool. If you if you're if you got a daughter, and she's 17, getting ready to grab. Way, things of their nature, and he says, Hey dad, I've been dating this guy who's 42, and I want to introduce you to him. And the 42-year-old comes to the house, what would be your reaction to that? And a lot of them, when I asked them that, they took offense to it. They put up resistance to it. So it's like, how can you go out here and do things to other men's daughters that you wouldn't want done to you? And then I would ask him, Well, why wouldn't you let him date your 17-year-old daughter, 18-year-old daughter? And he's 42. And that would be the end of the conversation. It's the same reasons. I mean, it's not rocket science here, but anybody who's ever dealt with a younger woman knows how gullible they are. It just is what it is. Just like you said, that was your fear of having a daughter. That was my fear of having a daughter, and I have one. Right? So it's like women, especially young women, they gonna do what they want to do. They're gonna find a way to do it. Right? Like when we was younger and we was running around and doing this, that, and the third. You had women who was preachers' kids. You had women who came from background where they dad was in the military. You had a bunch of different types of women, and they would still be the some of the sneakiest motherfuckers you ever met, or still be some of the motherfuckers who doing things that they know that they shouldn't be doing. You like, damn, I can't believe. And she comes from good tutelage. Or allegedly. Come from good tutelage and things of that nature. So when I had a daughter, that was my fears, like boom. That's a real possibility. So my mindset to it is, is just to be as bluntly honest with my daughter as possible. Because, you know, we all been young. Even us when we was running around doing some of the stuff we weren't supposed to be doing. You had people saying, hey man, you shouldn't be doing that. That's not the route. You need to be this way, that way. But when you're young, you hear that and be like, Yeah, I mean, I hear you OG, but old ass. Get your old ass out. You don't know nothing about this life I'm living right now.
SPEAKER_01Nothing. Nothing. It was different times. Different times. TV was black and white back then. You be disrespectful to them niggas.
SPEAKER_02You know what I mean? So it's like you already know that's coming when you have kids. And that's the scary part about it. But I think the difference is if some parents like to try to protect their kids from the world until they grown, and that's dangerous. I'm not gonna do that. I'm gonna be bluntly honest with my little girl. So that way when she gets outside, she got the game. Now, if you choose to make the decisions when you got the game, that's on you. But you can never say, I ran into something that my daddy didn't tell me about.
SPEAKER_00Facts.
SPEAKER_02And I feel like a lot of women who was had that good parenting, that preacher kid, that this, that, that, he tried to protect them from the world, and that only made them want to go find out about it more. And then you got old niggas who taking advantage of that.
SPEAKER_01I agree. I agree. It's very similar to like some of the kids, like growing up, you know, the parents who let them, you know, have a little sip here and there, like, I'm gonna try some of that beer. Like, nah, you don't really want no this beer. Yeah, I do, yeah, I do. I take it. All right. Yeah. Taste of it. And then you can you drink this? Exactly. You shouldn't be drinking. This ain't for kids. Right. You know what I mean? I think it's sometimes, especially as kids, they gotta fall on their face. They gotta learn the hard way. So I think why not let why not make that mistake or or do those things with me so you can so I can catch you when you fall. There you go. Versus me telling you, you know, what you shouldn't be doing, and then you like, okay, I'm gonna go find it on my own. Or you also doing it with somebody, you know, hanging out with people that you ain't supposed to be hanging around with. Right. And now your ass in trouble, you locked up, or you know what I'm saying, doing shit like that when you could just listen to your parents.
SPEAKER_02Man, it's so many niggas who got in trouble learning things in the street that they parents refused to teach them. So many people who got kids, so many people who had essays happened to them because they parent wouldn't even tell, I don't even want you dating a motherfucker until you're 42. Right. So it's like, like, that's not realistic, right? So when they outside, they don't even feel comfortable coming to talk to you about certain things that I'm doing. And I never want that. I know it's gonna be some things that may be uncomfortable, but I at least want you to feel comfortable coming up to me to talk about 90% of things. Like, hey, Pop, this is what I'm dealing with. Boom, boom. And I'm gonna be bluntly honest, I'm not gonna judge you, I'm not gonna get mad at you, I'm not gonna none of that. Because it's like you said, I would rather you learn it from me than have to go outside and bump your head and make a mistake that you can't come back from, or that can mess up your psyche, or that can, you understand, out there learning in the street. Yep. And I think that with the brandy situation, that may be a big part of what happened, because if you're familiar with their family, like I think her mama was her manager and things of that nature. So it's like there was a wall there, clearly, to where she felt the need to hide this relationship from her parents, even though she was famous already. She can have any man she wants. Right. But, you know, so it's like that whole situation just kind of raised my eyebrows, and you know, in terms of being shocked by it, no, because it in the previous generations that was very normal. I'm not saying it's right, I would never advise that, but previous generations is very normal. But I just got like I be thinking about my daughter when I hear stuff like that. And I'm like, I don't want that to be. Because even with the Leah thing, her and R. Kelly getting married when she was 15, and he's 27 or some shit like that. It's like it's like where was the ball dropped? Like, where was the where I can't even, I don't feel my kid didn't feel comfortable coming to tell me that something like this was even possibly going on. Hey, R. Kelly came on to me, or hey, Juanya can. Like, where's the disconnect there? And I think that's what gotta be addressed to try to help pre prevent some of that. Now again, it's like we said, young kids gonna do what they do, you know, but I feel like sometimes, man, it's a lot of kids out here that don't feel like they can come talk to their parents about anything. Most things they feel like they're gonna get in trouble, they feel like they're gonna get judged, they feel like they're gonna get their they they they they freedom restricted by simply bringing up certain things.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And it's like, that's gonna hurt your kid more than it's gonna help them.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yes. That's how my mom raised me. Like, hey, I know it may be uncomfortable, hearing some things from you, especially when it came like sex and girls. So I know I'm your mom, and some things may be uncomfortable, but I want you to talk to me. I want you to be able to be able to come to me and tell me what's going on. Even if I was getting in trouble in school. Like, hey, tell me what you did. Tell me the truth. That way I can have your back. Right. Versus, you know, you lying or you sneaking, and then I'm going to the school to defend you and come to find out you did completely opposite. Right. So shit, like when especially like if I had fights or getting ready to have fights, hey, let me tell you what's been going down, mama. It's been through, he's been running his mouth. I've been chilling, I ain't been bothering nobody. If he went up on me, it's going down. Right. If I get suspended, like I said on for a couple days, it's going down. Well, Mama, hey, I'm I'm dating this girl. I really like her. And she'd be playing, all right, you know, just protect. If you're gonna do something, protect yourself. I don't want no grandbabies this early. You know, you're young, you got your whole future ahead of you, you know, take your time, slow down, da da da. I was like, all right. And then she had one day, well, it was uh this was this was like I was like eighth or ninth grade, something like that. But you know, the guys, they having condoms, bringing them to school, and stuff like that, they showing them off. And so I'd be like, yeah, give me one of them, give me one of those. Not doing nothing. Right. But give me one of them. So I'm collecting over time, and then I I hid it in like an encyclopedia. Oh, you remember them old ass, them brown, it's like from like decades ago. Oh yeah. So I had uh I had some of those. There was a bunch of those. I had it from my grandma's whatever, but I was just hiding them in like different, different chapters of it. That's fucking hilarious.
SPEAKER_02I know you're talking about damn, I can't think of the name of it.
SPEAKER_01It's like the World Encyclopedia or something like that. Uh uh. Something like uh Atlantis or Atlas Something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Red being nosy one day. Kenfo, damn. I'll throw Kim Falls. Go over my room.
SPEAKER_00He goes up my room.
SPEAKER_01I don't know why he, I don't know why he was looking at it. Right. He going down, he was like, Mama, what's this?
SPEAKER_02Nah. Nah. Kenfo. We gotta talk about this. You ain't throw you ain't throw bro in the business. Nah, he was like, nah, or something.
SPEAKER_01But he was like, Mama, what's this? So then she wanted to have that talk with me. And so how but I was honest. I was like, Mama, honestly, like, you know, some of the guys had them at school. I just took them, I just put them up. I ain't know what to do with them. I just put them up. But you know what I'm saying? She believed me because we always had that rapport with each other where I could just keep it 100 with her. So Damn man. But speaking of pregnant women. But we lost one. Big mama. Big mama Lotto.
SPEAKER_02Lost her to the game.
SPEAKER_06Lost her to the game.
SPEAKER_02Okay, shout out to all the boys that was, you know, disappointed and hurt, you know, all of that. You know, um, damn. Like it was a it was a reveal. You know, it was some rumors prior to because she was kind of wearing a lot of big clothes and stuff. It was like, nah, we think it's but she came out, made her announcement. And it's the fact that it was with 21. 21 Savage, who she's been rumored to be dating for years, but they've been keeping it under wraps. They ain't took no pictures together, they ain't confirmed nothing or whatever, but when she did that, you know, he had, you know, it was a little photo shoot. He had his hand around his stomach. He got a he got tattoos on his hand that was consistent with the same tattoos that 21 got. So it, you know, it came out, it was what it was. Everybody thought 21 was married. Um, you know, he had kids with this woman that they thought he was married to. And, you know, that was the, you know, that was the narrative. So again, everybody, of course, it blows up on social media. You got people taking sides, oh, you proud of having a baby by this married man, or you know, other side, oh, you proud of having a baby out of wedlock and all of these things. So it's like, what's your what's your thoughts on that? Let's just push the narrative in terms of like women having kids out of wedlock or having kids with men that ain't available to them.
SPEAKER_01So, really quick, I do want to confirm, is he married or not?
SPEAKER_02That's the thing. Nobody knows for sure. Clearly. Nobody knows. Trying to fit nobody knows. But it's like, I that's a I'm gonna have to do some do some due diligence, but because you got some sides saying that he's not married. Right. And then you got other sides saying that he married her so he didn't get deported. Anybody who's not familiar with 21 Savage, his nationality, he is from Great Britain. But he's been here since he was a kid. But I I don't know if they ever got the paperwork situated the way that they should to give him his 100% citizenship. So he ended up getting deported a couple years back. I remember that. And then Jay-Z worked some magic, you know what I mean, salute the hove to get him back in the country. And, you know, apparently he's supposed to get married around then, but it wasn't a public thing, but that was just the rumor. Okay, boom, he got married, the visa, this, that, and the third. So it's so it's those rumors going around, but nobody knows for sure. Yeah. But they do know that he has multiple kids by this woman. I know for sure he got, yeah, too. And also when Lotto posted the pregnancy announcement, the woman with those kids like the post.
SPEAKER_01Mm-hmm. So first off, I think with with certain people, especially when you're of a certain status, I definitely wouldn't put it past like that situation which you said, like they getting married so he can stay over here. And, you know, he probably taking care of it, but he like, hey, this is what I'm gonna be doing. Right. I'm gonna keep a roof over your head, I'm gonna make sure I'm here for the kids, but I'm I'm doing my thing. Got to.
SPEAKER_02So I but I don't see because this is years of rumors. This ain't just oh, three months they did. This is years of them people saying her and 21 is doing their thing, whatever, but this just stamped it. So we're talking about four or five years of this.
SPEAKER_01And them not being married either. And them not being married, right? I don't know, man. Like I think I'm just I'm just super traditional. That's just me. I would much rather have a kid um myself before I mean well, I would I would much rather get married than have a kid, just trying to follow the steps. Or at least if if my wife is pregnant, then I'm and I'm getting married. You know what I'm saying? I'm making sure I'm gonna take care of her, things like that. Right. But I mean, so you know, some people they they live a lifestyle that we can't imagine. Right. And so some people just is what they're doing, but some people just want to have a family. Some people want to bring a child into the world. You know what I mean? Some people, um that's just what they ready to do. They grown. But personally, I definitely would, you know, I would like to follow just to the traditional path, but at the same time, they didn't work out in my favor all the way either. Right. So, you know what I mean? I can I can only say what I what I would like, but when certain position when certain situations present themselves, it's gonna it's gonna fall away at fall. And if they like each other and they really care about each other, love each other, like it's gonna be what it's gonna be. And clearly enough to where they can have a photo shoot where it's viral. So clearly it's not all the way that situation, because that would look crazy if Nick had a whole photo shoot and he just openly married. Come on. You know what I mean? So you gotta take that angle into account as well. I don't I don't think that it's all the way with you know people making it seem, because if that was the case, it would probably still be more under wraps. And that's why I believe in stand out of people business.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's just because you you just never know the nuance. And I think that being faces like we are, um, for those who like when I say faces, I mean people of some notoriety or people of some publicity or whatever. Like you got people who out there saying that I'm married to a white woman. You got people who out there saying that I abuse my wife, uh, you know, a bunch of different things, and it's just like, bro, it's that's so far from the reality that it's just like like what the fuck? But it's so it's not even worth addressing, but it's like that's the narratives that people be having who have no idea what's going on within your relationship. So that's why I try not to judge people, you know, in terms of like what they got going on, because you just never know. Right. You know what I mean? But um in a more general conversation in terms of the single mother thing and having kids out of the way, like, you know, I I'm definitely not for that. You know, I think that the stats show the issues that it brings the kid. And I think a lot of times when we're making these decisions, we don't factor the kid in. We factor in what we want to do. Just like you said, oh, I just I'm just ready to have a kid. I'm ready for this, or I'm ready for that. Sure, but it's like you're gonna bring that kid into a dysfunctional situation, and the stats show that because of that, he has a less likely, he or she has a less likely chance to be successful. That's what the stats say. You understand? Now, of course, they're dealing with a with a totally different type of money, but also money don't fix everything. You got a lot of kids who come from rich parents and they're miserable and they're in therapy every week trying to trying to figure it out or trying to, you know, just better their mindset and things of that nature. So I just want people to be more cognizant of the effect, the effect that it has on the kid, instead of making decisions based on, you know what, I'm getting older, I want a baby. Or you know what, I always want a baby, this is what I want, it's nothing wrong with wanting that. But if you want it bad enough, you'll set up the circumstances to where when that baby comes, they have a chance, or a good chance, to be successful. And a lot of people don't do that.
SPEAKER_01I mean, and I've I've seen a lot of people too, you know, have a kid or two or three, and then they get married. You know, because I think some people still want to have a big wedding, they want to have a nice wedding. So sometimes that kind of sets them back. Right. Because you got kids, you got daycare, you got car seats, you gotta get strollers, you gotta get so many different things you gotta get for the kids, so they can't really enjoy their big day. But then it's like the flip side is like if it's that important, then just get married, go to the courthouse. It don't cost that much. If you want to be official, just make it official and do that down the line. Why are you staying separate for so long? You know, unless you're trying to find loopholes. Now, if you're doing it that way with the government, you know what I mean? Like finding loopholes with filing taxes or you know, being able to uh apply for certain loans and all that stuff, if you got a game plan and you you working it that way, hey, do your thing, get your paper. But most people not doing that. True. They're not operating that way. You know what I mean? So that's that's really like one of the rare situations where I would understand you holding off, you know, on that.
SPEAKER_02Right. Right, right, right. Yeah, I mean, I like I say, man, everybody gotta do what's best for them, which I get, but like I said, I just want the kids to be taken into account because you know, I come from a family of kids that are in broken homes. Just is what it is. And a lot of them have been imprisoned, a lot of them have not graduated, a lot of them are doing things that they shouldn't be doing because of not having a stable home life. You understand? So to see that up close, it kind of makes my opinion on this thing biased. Um now again, there are exceptions, you know, to where, you know, you got a single mother who raised a great kid and grow up and you know, they become great parents and things of that nature, you know. But I just think more times than not, having bringing a kid into an environment that's unstable is setting them up for failure. And that's just the reality of it. So I'm gonna always go against that. But like I said, in terms of their situation specifically, we don't know enough. So I don't want to judge somebody's situation if I don't know the nuance of it. But you know, oppressed all parties involved.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. You want to get to the last one or you wanna go? Okay, baby.
SPEAKER_02You moderating, baby. Go ahead, man. Do your thing. What?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I'm gonna go to I want to go to I wanna go to Ari. Let's go. Oh, okay. Uh I don't know, man. Let's go to let's go to Ari, man. So Ari was is shocked that her success isn't attractive to men.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, Ari was on the Poor Minds podcast. Salute to Drea and Lex, man. Them is my dogs. Um, but she was on the podcast and they were speaking about a woman's success and how it's not necessarily attractive to me. And as a matter of fact, it kind of throws men off or makes men feel a bit insecure. So I'm gonna play the clip, but then we're gonna speak to it.
SPEAKER_08All of these ambitious goals of mine that I've been able to achieve, I thought that would be attractive. And in meeting men and dating a lot of successful men, none of them would ever, ever talk about how exciting it is that I have invested in properties or would ever even want to come to see my house. All of my accomplishments were minimized with realizing wow, I think it deters them.
SPEAKER_03It intimidates them. I agree with it, because I used to feel it was so much.
SPEAKER_04I'll be praising, yeah, but y'all not Beyonce. Okay, but you not Jay-Z either.
SPEAKER_02Said that my accomplishments, men don't necessarily value them. They said that they thought that when they got their degrees or when they reached a certain level of success, a man would be able to stand off and say, Damn, man, look at my girl. That's crazy. Proud of her. But that ain't the case. They find intimidation, they find competition. What's your thoughts on that all?
SPEAKER_01Man, now I think it's a couple things. I think one he don't really like you like that. Because if he did, he would value, you know, the things that you you brought to the table. Now, also as a man though, we don't want you having to always put to the forefront of what you have done and what you have accomplished. Because as a man, we've done a lot of things, we've accomplished a lot of things, but we don't just walk around parading, oh, I do this, I do that, I do this. So I think I think it's like wearing certain things as a badge of honor, which is attractive to have. But I think well uh sometimes, especially, like she said, she's dated many men that were successful. So those successful men, they are looking for they do care about the accolades. Don't get me wrong, because a lot I know a lot of successful men, they don't want no dumb women. That's just that's just what it is. Because we can't they can't have you know immature women or dumb women. Like they they can't have them messing up what they have going on. Right. So that's understandable. But at the same time, I think just leading with that and then always wanting to put that on the forefront of what you've done. I think those type of men, they have like success on their mind. Like they are goal-driven, like with their own stuff, if that makes sense. Now I think it's different when you're married or you've grown up with that person, you developed a relationship with that person, and you've kind of did things together with them. I think that relationship is different. But when y'all both come into a situation trying to learn each other, I just don't think that's something that he really cares about. And no, it's not that men just want you to have nothing or be on the street, and we would much rather that. That's not the case. Right. I just think the focus is different. And the focus on trying to elevate us and propel us, and it's not just highlighting all of these accomplishments, because at the end of the day, I still got work to do. So the accomplishment don't mean nothing if I'm not putting in the work and continuously doing things. You can go to school and get a degree and then not do nothing with it. So it's it is accomplishment to have, but are you doing something past that? You know what I mean? Like, and she's saying, like, you know, uh not wanting to see the rental properties, things like that. I don't know. I think stuff like that is dope, but again, some men, they not there for all of that. They just there because they think you're a good time, you might be a good vibe, whatever it is. They don't see nothing past that. So to me, if he doesn't have real interest in you, he's not gonna take interest in your side ventures or uh the successes that you have. He's because that's not what he's there for. A man that likes you and cares about you, he's the one that's gonna show up to your properties. He's gonna want to help you with an investment to say, hey, hey, there's this other property over here that you can flip. My boy told me about it, or yada yada yada, he's gonna help you, you know, be in position and and help you thrive and elevate. But yeah, some of that, some of it is men just don't want to hear all that. And then two, some men just don't like you.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I think the like don't like you is is the is the way. I I think also it's not that men don't care about a woman's accomplishments or her money or her status or her success. I think men deep down just know that we don't necessarily stand to directly benefit from it. I think societal pressure and a man's natural inhibition or aspiration or whatever the case may be, is to be able to take care of my woman. Right. And women who get in relationships with a man, regardless of how accomplished they are, regardless of how much money they they have and things of that nature, their goal is still for my man to be able to take care of me. And that's the mindset that most men go into a relationship with. So even if he's not capable of doing it early, that's still his goal. So your money or your status or all of those things is kind of irrelevant in that sense. Because the fact of the matter is, when I get with you, I'm gonna be spending more money than you're spending. Like I'm gonna be making those financial sacrifices that you don't necessarily have to make because in our eyes, that's what being a man is. Right? And you know, that's why I say, like, a lot of women even had a mindset, hey, my money is my money, your money is our money. That's a that's a real thing. You understand? That's a real mindset to have. Or you have some women who it's like, nah, I'm gonna save all my money just in case this relationship goes left, and I can cover me on the back end of it. Right? So, so it's not a situation where as a man we're benefiting from your money in comparison to the other way around. When you get with a man, yeah, of course money is important. Because he's gonna be paying for everything. Or most things. Like you got women who say, nah, I'm I'll I'll cover this, I'll cover that, da da da. But anybody who ever been in a long-term relationship, man or woman, know how this thing goes, bro. When we go out to dinner, we're not expecting you to pull out your purse. My wife, or we go on this trip, I'm not expecting you to put up half or it ain't happening, or pay for the whole thing. Now, of course, every now and again, you know, her loving you or whatever the case may be, she gonna, you know, do like, I got it, baby, watch out. But that's more of a, you know what I mean? Like, that's not normal. If we go out 10 times as a man, I'm paying eight of them. If we take five trips, I'm paying 80% of the trip. Or a hundred percent of the trip. That's the reality of the situation. So it's like, if I'm not necessarily benefiting from your accomplishments, why would I value them as much as you do? Now, our accomplishments as men, you stand to directly benefit from. Each and every one of them. Every single one of them. Which is why I don't judge women for saying, oh, I'm not dating a man unless he makes this or unless he's, you know, has his own business or he's or he's been living a comfortable lifestyle, whatever. I can't judge women for that, right? Because yeah, he's the leader of the household. His lifestyle is gonna dictate the level of comfortability that y'all have as a unit. That's the reality of it. But in terms of your money or your success, I don't stand the benefit from that. And if you're dealing with a woman and y'all plan to have kids, that's gonna put a dent in that success. Like there has to be the option of her saying, you know what, I can't work anymore. Can you hold this thing down? That's the reality of most situations, and that's the expectation of both men of men when we go into relationships. We like the fact that you make your own money. We like the fact that you're capable of taking care of yourself and things of that nature. But in our mind, when we walk in this shit, it's like if all else fails or if all else goes wrong, I need to be able to take care of everything myself. And if I can't do that, then I'm not a man.
SPEAKER_01You know what one thing too, I think I just thought about as you were talking. I think also men really value time. And I think that's a big factor too. Because if you have all these things going on, using that example, you know, she got side businesses and she's an artist, so she got to travel and things like that. I think if a man is really into you, he kind of knows like I'm gonna be on a back burner. And I wanna spend if you're my woman, I want to spend time with you. I want to be first priority. I want to be first priority. I want to be able to call you up and hey, let's let's do this, let's do that. But like in her situation, is I'm sorry, I got a show, or I got a rehearsal, or I'm in a studio, or I gotta check on this, I gotta check on that. So I think that's hard for some men, even being successful. Because with me being successful, it's like I became successful so that you don't have to do some of these things. Right. But at the same time, you've created who you are. So I can't knock that. But at this but saying that too, I just can't necessarily give my all because I know what's gonna come with that.
SPEAKER_02And you look like a goofy riding the coattail of your woman. It's just put it on the table. And this ain't even got nothing to do with women. This is just man shit. If I'm looking at a dude who has kind of settled into the mindset of, hey man, my woman got that paper, and I'm just riding her coattail. You look like a goofy, bro. Because as a man, like like I just said, you should be able to take care of the lifestyle on your own. That's just what I think. Now, of course, you got some crazy exceptions like an Oprah Steadman or something like that, the way it's just like, all right, gang, like she got billions. It ain't, you know. You know what I mean? But I'm talking about regular people. As a man, like, in my opinion, you shouldn't be comfortable with your woman being the breadwinner. You just shouldn't be. Now, I'm not saying that I'm gonna talk down on her for that, or I'm gonna try to dissuade her from accomplishing things or whatever, but I feel like as a man, my woman being that lit and being that successful should light a fire in me to try to do the same. Or to try to do more. You understand what I'm saying? Like, so it's not a malicious competition thing. That's a, hey, I want to pull my weight in this shit. I want to be able to, you know what I mean? Like, I want to pay for this trip when we go here.
SPEAKER_01I'm gonna give you an extreme example, but like what more do you do? I think about immediately Giselle and Tom Brady. She was making more paper than him. Right. So how do you two more as like the D man of the NFL? You know, it'll be like, not no scrub, like you are the man in the NFL, and it still don't quite match what your wife's doing.
SPEAKER_02I think in their situation, it's a very unique situation. Yeah, because it's like they the bracket that they're in, it's like it ain't too much that she can do that he can't. Yeah. They just put it on the table. Now she may be worth more, but he a couple hundred M's up. This is like, you know what I mean? What I mean, what we gonna do? Mansion, playing, I can buy it. I can go, I can buy what I want. Yeah. But even still as a man, I be trying to get endorsements, I'd be trying to do this, start this podcast, get this TV company. I'm trying, I'm constantly trying to do things, you understand? Because like I said, it's just a it's a man thing. Like I think we have an innate desire to take care of the women that we love. Just is what it is. But if she's the breadwinner, you're not doing that. And I know some niggas.
SPEAKER_01Talk's gonna get very demeaning.
SPEAKER_02So all of a sudden you gotta ask for permission to I mean that's that's here nor there. Wrong man asked for permission, it's crazy. But you know, get to your paper. You understand? And again, a as a man, I don't want to make this clear. I'm not saying that you should step on your woman's accomplishments. I'm not saying that you shouldn't be celebratory when she accomplishes things. I think as a man, you should be your woman's biggest cheerleader. But your woman's success should light something in you to do more. And it's a lot of men that are out here with successful women and they complacent. They're like, ah, man, she's making a lot of money. Hey, it is what it is. I'm gonna just do my little part. And no. No, no, no. You are a man at the end of the day. And what comes with that is, like I said, being able to maintain your lifestyle by yourself. And if you cannot do that, you shouldn't be in the relationship. And that's just my take on it. And it may be a lot of people who disagree, or whatever the case. Maybe we're a team. Yeah, all of that's great. But the reality is most women want a man who's capable of taking care of them. That's the reality. I don't care how much money she makes, I don't care how successful she is, I don't care how long she's been making all the decisions, most women who are successful, even still, want a man that can take care of her. And if you can't, she will never respect you like a man. That's the reality.
SPEAKER_01That's a fact. I got one more scenario for you, just to see. You make not you, hypothetical. The man makes 120. She makes 275. Right? Shit, he'd still be paying all the bills.
SPEAKER_02I think that I'm I'm I'm a traditional man. You know what? I think that we like the last generation from that just traditional man mindset. And I'ma feel like, as the man, I should be paying all the bills. I should be. Because like I said, from my perspective, her money doesn't factor into my decision making. It doesn't. Now it's great, and I'm gonna benefit from it here or there. Right. But I need to have a lifestyle that's comfortable enough to where even if she leaves me, I'll be straight. But I think it's a lot of men out there who create their lifestyle based on our income instead of my income. And then when things go left, you see a bunch of downgrading. You see cars getting repossessed, you see houses getting sold, niggas and studio level apartments and all kinds of shit. And it's like I never want to be that man. So even in the situation that Ari was talking about, right? It's like as a as a man in that situation, like I'm she said, oh, he won't go see my real estate properties, things of that nature, da da da. Nah, I feel like that right there is that right there is a bit of streaming. That's why I think I it goes back to what you said about not liking you. Now I'm gonna go see him. Right. I'm gonna at least go see him. I'm at least go see him. Now I may not be hands-on with the details and the statistics and things, because that's not my money, right? Now, if we married, that's different. But we just dating. But yeah, I think, you know, at the end of the day, as a man, I'm a bit traditional in that sense. So if I'm making 120, she's making 270. Yeah, I'ma still pay the, I'ma still pay all the bills. And like I say, I just hope that I chose a woman that's thorough enough to be able to, you know, tuck that money for us or like make some investments or whatever that we both can benefit from. Or, you know, and even throughout that, I'ma still be trying to elevate. I'm not selling with that 120. I'ma still I'm gonna start this business over here. I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that, I'm gonna invest. I'm gonna, there's so many ways to get to the paper, you understand? And I'm gonna constantly be trying to get to it, especially if she makes more than double what I make.
SPEAKER_01She put her hand, she put her hand on your thigh and say, I got it for the next couple months.
SPEAKER_06That's crazy. No, that's crazy. Babe, I got it.
SPEAKER_01Babe, I got us. You're not gonna patronize me, man. Because I love you. That's crazy. I got us, babe.
SPEAKER_00You ain't gonna let her do it.
SPEAKER_02I can't do it. I can't do it, man. I'm gonna be in jail for selling drugs. Oh, God.
SPEAKER_00Oh shit.
SPEAKER_02Um, what we got next, man? Speak marriage. Leslie Jones, man. Um Lord have mercy. The thing about Leslie Jones is a comedian. So it's hard to tell when she's being serious or when she's not, you understand? So I just gotta take the clip for face value. And in said clip, she had this to say about marriage.
SPEAKER_07I think marriage is legalized slavery.
SPEAKER_09You do.
SPEAKER_07Yes, I do.
SPEAKER_09Say more, because if I'm thinking about slavery and I'm thinking about marriage, there are two different images that come together.
SPEAKER_07Absolutely not. I don't think I don't I don't I don't know how you don't. A man is if especially if he's expecting you to be a trad wife, he might as well pull out a whip in a chain.
SPEAKER_09Wow. So there are young people watching who might be wanting to get married. What would you say to them?
SPEAKER_07Don't.
SPEAKER_09Don't get married.
SPEAKER_02No.
SPEAKER_09Okay.
SPEAKER_02I think she was taken aback. She said, I think marriage is legalized slavery.
SPEAKER_01What the hell's a trad wife? That threw me off.
SPEAKER_02Well, now we gotta do some due diligence. Trad wife. What does that mean? Trad wife is short for traditional wife. Oh. So yeah, if you're traditional, if you're not working, it's definitely slavery. Because the man makes all the money. This means he makes all the decisions. What's your thoughts on that all? Marriage is slavery.
SPEAKER_01I think that's just an older mindset. Um because it's it's a whole lot different today. A whole lot different. Our roles are different. Um things that we're used to are different. We just live in a different world in general. You know what I mean? Like, back then, low-key, like, if you shit, as a man, if you just had a job, it was enough to take care of your family. Right. Now you need more than that. You low-key need your your wife's income as well, whether she's working full-time or not. Like, you know, unless you just making a significant amount of money to take care of everything. But just the the average person. Yeah. Yeah. You you're gonna be working. You gonna, as a man, you also gonna be taking care of the kids. You're gonna be picking them up from school, you're gonna be doing some cooking, you're gonna be doing some house chores. Like, it's gonna be a lot of shared responsibilities. Right. Ain't no traditional about nothing unless you really up and comfortable. Right. So, I mean, you know, teachers on. Um, of course, I I don't agree. Uh I would definitely say if you want to get married and you love somebody, go for it. Try it out. Um, is it easy? Absolutely not, but it's worth it with the right person. And I would say that to anybody. If you want to take the chance, if you really care about somebody, if you are unselfish, if you are, you know, willing to continue to learn and grow and to sacrifice, go for it. But if that's not you, then don't do it. Stay single, live by your rules, how you want to do it. Come in as late as you want to, like do everything you want to do. Because once you get into marriage, there will be rules, there will be boundaries, you will get tested, and you know, you're gonna find out whether you're built for it or not.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I mean, I think everybody just ain't built for it. You know what I mean? And um, you know, that's the thing about marriage. People be asking me, you know, people who message me all the time for advice and things. And they be saying, like, man, like, you know, I love this girl. And you know, I think I'm married enough. Like, should I? And I be like, I can't answer that. Right. Because marriage is not for everybody. That's like me being a Christian and trying to convince a Muslim that they should convert. Like, you gotta convert for your own reasons. Like, I can tell you all the great things about it and things of that nature, but it uh it it's all gonna depend on where you are in your life and what you value and what you know, certain things is gonna resonate to you more than others, you know, depending on the religion or whatever the case may be. So I can't tell you, hey, Christianity is the best religion. You need to leave Muslim or you need to leave Buddhism or you need to leave. I I can't do that. Like it's gotta be something in your life that brings you there. Marriage is the same thing, it's all circumstantial, you know, especially from a male perspective. I think most men don't grow up aspiring to be married. They don't. I think most men grow up aspiring to get money. Most men grow up aspiring to drive nice cars, most men grow up aspiring to live in nice houses and having offspring, but aspiring to be married, yeah. One day I just want to get married, and most men most men or most young boys they don't aspire for that. But you end up running into a woman who's just incredible, and it's like I start to feel away at the thought of her even entertaining somebody else. And it's like, nah, nah, I gotta do what I gotta do to keep this woman because of what she brings to my life from an intangible perspective, how she makes me feel, how she supports me, how she talks to me, how she listens, like our camaraderie, our banter, our all of these things, like this is somebody that I could live with for the rest of my life, somebody that I can sacrifice for, that I would lay down my life for, her specifically. But the idea of marriage, to speak about it in a general, universal perspective is just not realistic. And I think a lot of people are debating marrying people that they should have never been talking to in the first place. So, of course, they're gonna resonate with that. Like, oh, it's slavery, it's this, that, and the third. But if you marry to the right person, it's not slavery. It's not at all. Y'all are a team, like y'all are building each other. Like your weaknesses is my strengths, and my strengths is your weaknesses, and we're working with each other to build said weaknesses, and you know what I mean? You my counsel, you my other set of eyes, you got a different perspective than I do, you got a different upbringing than I do, you got different trauma than I do, so you can see things different, and we bring all of these different perspectives and all these different ideas together to make something beautiful. That's what marriage is. And if you don't have the right person, of course it's gonna be terrible. Of course it's gonna feel like slavery. But that's why vetting and knowing who you are as a person and what it is that you need as a person is very important. But I think that most people who go into relationships, fuck marriage, don't know that. So now you're dating the wrong person, or you're having sex with the wrong person, or you in a situation with the wrong person, somebody you should have never been dealing with to begin with, but you don't know because you don't know your damn self. So I think that should be more the issue than is marriage bad, is not knowing yourself bad. Because that leads to a lot of the bad decisions that people make dating. Huge facts. This is my take on it, man.
SPEAKER_01And then too, there's like the whole slavery thing, like this. Yeah, like like you I mean that you really have to it gotta be the most extreme things. And when I saying extreme, I mean like the man's working, she's not, he's not giving her no type of money or no help or not look like nothing. They just married, and he making her stay at home, he making her like she making it seem like she on her hands and knees all day, and she's yes sir, no, no, sir. Like it man, no.
SPEAKER_02You know what it is. Far from it, bro. It's the it's the financial abuse aspect of things. That's why she brought up trail wife. Because a traditional wife is not working, right? So his income is the only income, and a lot of men do abuse that power, right? If you're not doing what I want you to do, if you're not moving how I want you to move, we're not gonna spend this money. Or you want this? No, we can't afford that. Or, you know, this little allowance that I was giving you, that's it over with. So now you kind of dictate it on what I choose. And I and it and I think that's prevalent. I don't I don't disagree with that. I think that a lot of men try to control their women with money. A lot of niggas try to control women who ain't theirs with money. But I also think that for it to get that far, you're not married to the right person, bro. Because if I love you, I would never try to, you know what I mean? I would never try to control you at all. Like, if anything, I'm gonna try to give you some game or whatever the case may be. But I'm not gonna say if you don't do what I say, it's gonna be this. But it's a lot of men out there who do move like that. So I can't necessarily That's true, you know, but it just boiled out of picking the right person. But motherfuckers be so anxious to get into a relationship that they skip past the shit that you supposed to be looking at. Then when you get into it, damn, I'm married to a narcissist. Or I'm married to this motherfucker who's trying to control me. How the fuck did it get that far and you didn't know that? You just wanted somebody there.
SPEAKER_01A lot of times they do know. They just want to go past that caution tape. Come on. You see it's a fire over there, but you trying to see where the fire is coming from.
SPEAKER_02Come on.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, as walk in and get burnt. It's a fire. You know it's a fire. Stay back. Go somewhere else. Like, I don't You walk in there, get burnt, and then blame the building.
SPEAKER_02That's a real rap. That's that's bro, that's that's a hell of an analogy.
SPEAKER_00If it wouldn't have been on fire, I wouldn't have walked in to see what was going on.
SPEAKER_02There you go. There you go. And those type motherfuckers tend to repeat the same cycles over and over in their dysfunctional ass relationships. It's just real. Um, but yeah, I mean, it's that's like we laughing, but that that's reality. That's exactly how it go.
SPEAKER_01Come on, man. Okay, B. What's up, baby? We still rolling, you're gonna go hit quick hit.
SPEAKER_02I'm rolling. I ain't got shit to do. All right, all right, all right, all right, all right. Plus, we ain't part last week, so we gotta make up for it.
SPEAKER_01You wanna hit one more then? Or we wanna just go to Okay, let's go. I'm gonna go with whatever you want to do, brother. We're gonna hit the Q ⁇ A. We're gonna hit the Q ⁇ A. We still need, we still need a name for this, y'all. Y'all need to help us out with this one. We need a dope ass name for the Q ⁇ A section. So um what's what's the biggest misconception that women have about men in 2026? What you think? The biggest misconception that women have about men in 2026?
SPEAKER_02I think that women feel like we are in competition with them. That's a good one. I feel like they feel like we are preying on their downfall in a sense. So they'll need us. It's kind of like that clip we just seen earlier, you know? And I think that most men don't think like that, especially when it comes to women that we love. I want to see you do well. I want you to be happy. That's why I'm out here working so hard to try to make that happen. You understand what I'm saying? But it's like also I need an accurate compass as to what I'm working toward. And a lot of women are operating out of trauma, right? But are beating their chest like success or a lot of money or a lot of degrees, it's just their natural aspiration. And that's not necessarily what you want. You're doing it out of survival. So if I'm trying to take care of you or I'm trying to appease you, I have an inaccurate compass as to what it is that you actually want. Because you're out here beating your chest so loudly for these for these things that you don't really want to be a part of for real. If you ran into the right man, a man capable of taking care of you, a man capable of taking that financial burden away from you, a man that's capable of providing you safety, you wouldn't be like, you don't care about that degree like that. You care about that degree like that because you grew up watching your your mama not have that safety, or not have that man that she could depend on. And in your mind, it's like, oh, I'm I would never go out like my mama did, or I would never be in that position for a man to be able to puppet stream me or whatever the case may be. So that's what the motivation behind that is. It's not because you just naturally want to do that, and how I know that is when you run into a man who's capable of taking care of you, you quit that job in a heartbeat. That motherfucking degree sitting on the wall collecting dust. So I think that a lot of women think that we are in competition with them and we love y'all. We want to take care of y'all. We want to be that safety, we want to be there, we want to pour into you. I want you to be the best that you can be. I don't want to step on you at all. But I think a lot of women feel like we intimidated by them or we like in competition, or I'm trying to, I'm trying to outdo her. It's we not, even in a relationship when a man, just like because I spoke about that earlier. Let me clarify. In terms of me trying to go make more money. Yeah, to go make more money for us.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_02Not for me, for us. Literally. And that's the mindset of what I feel like most men who are in this situation and ran telling we like or we love, whatever the case may be, that's our mindset. We're not in competition with you. I'm trying to build us to the most powerful version of us that's possible. But I also want you to be authentic in what it is that you want. Give me an accurate compass to follow, and I'm gonna get there because I love you that much. But if you beating your chest as the things that you don't really value, and now I'm all over the place trying to figure out, okay, well, what do you really want? We're gonna suffer as a couple because of it.
SPEAKER_01Because I want to take care of you. Why would I not want to take care of you? You're my woman. That's that I think that's a yeah, that's a big misconception. So mine would be similar to yours. I think um mine is just that men don't care. And I'm speaking on like when you're in a relationship. I think women think that we don't care when it's really I think it's us not just outwardly showing our emotions. Gotcha. Because we we definitely have emotions, but that's just not something that it's not gonna benefit the relationship if I'm always saying I'm tired, or if I'm always crying, or if I'm always just there there are things that we can talk about, and there are things that we can discuss, but we're problem solvers. We just like oh I'm gonna figure it out regardless. I'm not feeling my best. But guess what? I'm gonna be out this mood, you know, in in and then in a day. Let me sleep on it, let me get, you know, get some thoughts, and I'm I'm gonna be right the next day. But um also to the care and just like more so I would say like about their feelings. That's another angle. It's just we're still it's a lot of stuff we're still learning. And it's a lot of stuff we still have to unlearn. Because it's because it's like if I didn't care, I wouldn't continue paying these bills. So if I didn't care, I wouldn't take you on these dates. I wouldn't buy you these flowers, I wouldn't get the stuff that I know that you like. And I'm not doing it just to do it, because if I didn't like you, I wouldn't get this stuff. So I care about you. So it's like we're we're in two completely different worlds, man. And I feel like a lot of times, even though men may not understand all the way where women are coming from, we still try to meet them. Women automatically assume just because we don't understand, we just don't care. Or we not trying to help, or we're not. It's like, no, like one thing for sure is we need clear and concise communication. We need direct. Tell me exactly what you need. Send me a picture. If we go into the store and you work, you want a certain type of uh uh noodle brand for the spaghetti, you want the skinner or whatever it is, like I want, don't go get H E B brand. Right. I'm not feeling that. Or if it's some, whatever it is, you know what I'm saying? Sauce, it don't matter. But tell me exactly what you want. Because otherwise, if you just put milk, I'm gonna go get some milk. Right. You didn't say 2%, you didn't say organic, you didn't say almond. You know what I mean? You say milk. I'm gonna go get some milk that I know I was raised up with or what I drink, I'm gonna go get that. So, like the same thing in a relationship. Y'all gotta be very specific in the things that y'all need because otherwise I'm gonna go just off muscle memory or just kind of what I assume. So that would be, I'd say, some of the one misconception.
SPEAKER_02And like, don't judge us out of the lens in which y'all would do things. Just like you said, right? Like, men need concise direction. Y'all may not. Because y'all hear what we say and think some totally other shit. Men, we hear what you say and take what you say as law. And we move according to that. Right? So we think differently, and and that's the beauty of a relationship. Right. We got two different perspectives. We come from two different sides, so we meet in the middle and we got a whole perspective. But it's like the biggest mistake I think people make is judging you by what I would do if I was in your shoes. And it's like that's gonna lead you to a lot of disappointment, if we're gonna be honest. You understand? I think you need to learn, which is the dope part about relationships, is that you get to spend a lot of time with this person. So you learn what makes them tick, you learn what excites them, you learn what inspires them, you learn what type of environment they need to be productive, you learn all of these things, and it's like, let me rephrase, you should be learning these things, right? So that way you can always keep your partner feeling fulfilled or encouraged or supported or whatever the case may be. But it's like when you don't take that time to do that, and you judging them through the lens of how you would move, you setting y'all up for failure. Because y'all never gonna move the same. Y'all never gonna think about things the same. He's a man, you a woman, or vice versa. So having that expectation, you wasting your fucking time.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01I think men, men do a very, very, very good job for accepting you for who you are.
SPEAKER_02You know why? Because the relationship success is predicated on us understanding them. But on the other hand, not necessarily. And that's the thing. So we have to work out that muscle that they don't even know is there. Because if we don't, then the relationship fails. In comparison to a woman, she don't, and we'll cover her in in regard to that, or we'll just go without.
SPEAKER_01And that's some shit we can't even like. That should be hard to explain. I can even explain that in a relationship sometimes. Because shit, some things you just like do. It's kind of like when you when you at work and somebody asks you, like, what all do you do at work? You can't even really describe like what takes eight hours of your day.
SPEAKER_02You know why? Because throughout that eight hours, a lot of that time spent, which is parallel to a relationship, is reactive to what's necessary in the moment. So I can't give you a universal, hey, I get there at eight o'clock, I do this, I do this, I do that. No, I get there at eight o'clock and I analyze and I see what the fuck needs my input or what needs me to physically step in, or what needs me to. It's the same thing in relationships. We get there with the woman, we sense her traumatic history, we sense her insecurities, we sense what's gonna make her excited, we sense what's gonna piss off, or what's gonna make her mad, and we navigate. That's how men approach relationships. And it's like that's why. But like I said, if we don't, we fail in both arenas. You come into your job and do what you want to do, you're gonna get fired. Yo, ass go with a quick display. Especially if you're in a leadership position. Same thing in relationships. I showed the relationship, do what I want to do. I'm not taking in how you feel into account, none of that. The relationship's gonna end. It's just real. I just wish that that sense of urgency was on the other side. Because I feel like a lot of times it ain't. A lot of times women feel like, hey, I can come in as I am, and you're gonna adapt to me as I am. Now you got some men who was like, nah, we ain't going for that. Like you gon', you know what I mean, you gonna show some goddamn reciprocity in this situation, or else I'm gone, but I don't necessarily feel like most men do that. So women get away with a lot. Like this running narrative about women not being accountable is not only their doing, it's us allowing the shit. We be allowing a lot of things. That's a fact that we should walk away from.
SPEAKER_01That's a fact.
SPEAKER_02But just because we love her so much, we'll be like, you know what, man, I ain't I ain't tripping, dog. Or I'll make up for it on the back end. I'll when it should be, no, you signed up for this, this, this, I need this, this, this. Period. That's exactly what they're gonna do.
SPEAKER_01Amen.
unknownDamn.
SPEAKER_01We gotta clean it up, fellas. This voice rate might be a little higher. No. You ain't lying. Should your past be relevant when it comes to dating? That's what I'm gonna keep doing. Um should your past be relevant when it comes to dating?
SPEAKER_02Definitely. Definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely. I think that a lot of people don't put the sense of importance on how they're moving right now in reference to tomorrow as they should. I think that every experience you go through, it kind of shapes your mind and it shapes your expectations, and it shapes your insecurity or confidence and all of these things. So by the time you get to that person, everything you done went to has kind of warped your mind into a certain thing, right? Like you're not meeting this person and they don't have dating experience. You're not meeting this person and they ain't got their heart broken. You ain't meeting this person and they ain't got a maybe a promiscuous past or whatever the case may be. All of those factors. You ain't meeting this person and they ain't have a rough childhood or something traumatic happened to them. All of these instances shape who that person is. So, yes, your past is very important as to who you is because as a man showing up, I need to know what I'm dealing with. I need to know how deep is the hole that I gotta climb out of. And certain holes are just too deep.
unknownDeep, deep.
SPEAKER_02They just too deep. It's like throwing a rock down the hallway. Some holes are just too deep. Because, and let me state this: it's because you ain't took the time to put dirt in the hole. You ain't did the work you need to do to be ready for this relationship. A lot of motherfuckers don't do the due diligence they need to do before they go into the next relationship. They just jump into it. Because I want somebody next to me. I ain't went to no therapy, I ain't read no books, I ain't figured out what my triggers are. I ain't none of that. I don't know none of that. But I know I want somebody, and I'm gonna jump into this relationship. So as a man, or vice versa. This ain't just a man woman thing, right? Dealing with a motherfucker who ain't addressing their traumas and things of that nature is putting you at a deficit. So, yes, your past matters. Your past makes you who you are. It just is what it is. Some people use it for positive and some people use it for negative, right? It's just like criticism. Criticism can break some people, make you not want to attempt things, make you not want to try things. You may be good at some shit. Right. But that criticism makes you hesitant, makes you freeze, or whatever the case may be. But to another person, that criticism is fuel. That criticism makes you want to prove them wrong. That criticism is used as fuel in that situation. You understand what I'm saying? So it just really depends on the person, the same with the past. You got people who grew up in a terrible household, and that make them great partners in a relationship. Or you got people who grew up with no parents or grew up with a terrible upbringing in that regard, and they turn out to be great parents because of that. But you got people who grew up in that same situation?
SPEAKER_01Complete opposite.
SPEAKER_02So, yes, your past matters. It does. I'm sorry for the people who got a rough past or whatever, whatever, and they made a change recently, and we just gonna act like that never happened. No, no, no. That happened. And it and it's gonna shape how you move, whether it's directly or subconsciously, or your thoughts, or your expectations that you have for the person. So walking into that, I need to know what those expectations are.
SPEAKER_01Ain't nothing wrong with it. Just be honest. No, be honest.
SPEAKER_02Can depend on what the past is. Be honest. Some shit you gotta lie. Some shit you gotta lie and move to another city. Some motherfuckers who can't verify. Some shit you gotta take to the grave, yeah. If it ain't nobody to verify some shit, you gotta take to the grave. Oh my god. That's just real.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I moved here about five years ago. I wonder why. Explore new opportunities.
SPEAKER_02On game. Bitches out here joining joining the military and all type of shit, trying to escape their past. But that's you know, that's neither neither here nor death. It always goes too far. Always gonna be personal. It always goes too far. I'm just saying.
SPEAKER_01Bro said I proposed to my woman. And she said no. But still wants to be together. Should I stay? I think that um she still wants to be there.
SPEAKER_02I think me in that situation, it's gonna be hard for me to look at you the same. Which it is, you know. But it's hard for me to judge his situation because I don't know how much attention he pays to detail. You know what I mean? Because with me, when I propose, I had a good feeling she was gonna say yes. Right. Right? Because we've been through a lot, we done seen every season of each other, things of that nature. But you got some dudes who jump out the window early. So I can't necessarily judge her for saying no. But I'm saying me in the situation, analyzing shit the way I analyze it and moving. How I move, if I propose and you say no, it's over.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02It's over. Because I'm paying enough attention to detail to know that like I like I done did due diligence, I done vetted you, I done looked at your family, I done looked at your upbringing, I looked at your mama, because that's a good idea, that's a good idea of how you're gonna turn out, if we're gonna be honest. Shape wise and everything. So it's like I done looked at all that and I done made the decision to propose to you. So if you're saying no, then that means that one or two things, you don't feel the way I feel, or two, you ain't did the due diligence in regard to me that that that you should have. And I don't necessarily have the patience to wait around and miss out on potential women who could be my wife waiting on you to miraculously one day feel the same way that I feel about you. And yeah, I mean, you know, a lot of people gonna feel like that's a ego thing, but I don't necessarily think it's an ego thing. Because another thing, by the time I propose, we done been together a long time. So how much time do you need? You know what I mean? I'm not asking you in 30 days. This is years of us being together. You know what I mean? You say no, it's over. It's over, bro.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I agree. A thousand percent. I say it's over. If it ain't over right away, I'm already, I'm halfway out the door. Checking out. But also to that, I think, yeah, like like you saying, I wouldn't know beforehand if this is something that she wanted to do. I wouldn't ask if I didn't know. In my I mean, I'm this is this is months of us having conversations. You want to do this? You want to get married? You know, how do you see our future? You want to have kids? Like, all those conversations are taking place. Now, if y'all had that conversation, she said, yeah, at the US, she said no, that's diabolical. That's wow. I'm just trying to think of why would she say no? The only way is like you said, you just premature, jump in the gun, ask a little bit early, or she could have just lied. Because I don't know no man that would ask his woman without knowing for sure.
SPEAKER_02Well, here's the thing, right? And and I gotta give, I gotta tell some personal business about myself. Um, I asked my old lady to marry me before. Mm-hmm. I mean, I didn't drop down to a knee. I just kind of, hey man, what you think about? Right. She said no. She said, you're not ready. And looking back on it, she was right. But at the time, I was confused. I'm like, wait, what? This is what all women want. Mm-hmm. But that's why I feel like it's important to have a woman who really loves you. Because somebody who really loves you, they know you, and they know you're not necessarily ready for that. So if we'd have gotten married then, we might not be together now. Right. You understand? So it's just like every situation is like different, but yeah, man.
SPEAKER_01I mean, it's like you making it official. But well, okay. I just for content. What's the difference in his situation and yours? Because you you kind of you asked, kind of, you you know, engaged your interests, and he like did it.
SPEAKER_02See, I think it's different between putting your toe in that water and fucking kettlebell. It goes back to what we just said. Before I ask officially, I'm gonna know. Right? Okay, but I also think at that time I was 20. Oh yeah. So, you know. You a kid, gang. Like, I, you know. And now I'm just looking at bro profile, you know, look 20. He a grown man, so it's like, you know, circumstances different, but it's just, you know, still, gang, like you gotta know before you ask. I think, I think that's like the unspoken rule with that shit. Yeah, because boys be trying to propose in public. Sh gang, could you imagine how embarrassing that shit is? You drop down to a knee in front of your old lady in public and she says no.
SPEAKER_01You know, I've heard of instances too, though, where men and their ego playing a part. It wasn't that she didn't want to, it's just like certain women just want things to be like sacred or things like that. So she intentionally tells you, hey, don't propose to me in public. Gotcha. And you go do it anyway. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01You trying to be romantic, you trying to be grandiose and put on the jumbotron or something like that. And when she tells you, hey, I don't want that type of attention on me. But you go against the grain, trying to trying to impress it, do it anyway, and then she's like, like, I told you, like, this is not how I wanted this to be done. Right. So to that, y'all take a L's for that one.
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SPEAKER_01Okay. Here we go. Last one. It's a kind of lengthy one. Pose. What would you say about a person who loves someone but chooses to wait before engaging in certain activities or commitment? The partner expresses a desire to move forward and asks when these activities will happen, and the individual responds that they will do so when the time feels right. The partner then decides to leave because they are unwilling to wait. What insight would you offer um viewers on this situation?
SPEAKER_02Damn. Damn, from which uh perspective? That's the thing. I mean, I'm I'm guessing that they didn't clarify which perspective?
SPEAKER_01Probably the the the one that ooh. Probably both. Okay, fuck it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Say no more. Or what would you say about a person who through love someone but chooses to wait before engaging certain activities or commitments? That's like the piece right there. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Um man, I think who is that from? Tmm. Hey man, shout out to T on the Patreon, man. Patreon questions is starting to uh roll in, man. So salute to T. Um. I say that you gotta stick to your guns. You know? I think that if you setting rules and they don't have anything to do with your moral foundation, it'll be easy to waffle on them. But I think when you setting rules based on how you really feel, you'll be willing to walk away from some shit that most people would force themselves to go into. And I think that the thing about having morals and having real foundation is you gotta have patience with it. That's the reality. Because everybody not gonna want to bend to what your standard is or what your moral is, and you gotta be okay with that. You gotta be okay with somebody that you really like or that you really see a future with, walking away from you, saying, Hey, I hear what it is that you want from me, I hear what it is that you require from me, and I can't do that. And you gotta be willing to say, you know what? I respect that, but I want this. And it is what it is. I wish you the best. Boom, you go your way, I go mine. And that's hard. That's hard, but that also shows how convicted you are and how much you really know yourself. But I feel like most people don't know themselves. So when it comes to somebody that they like, and they may have a rule, and they'll bend like a motherfucker, just to keep that person close to them. And then we get in this relationship, and it's only so long that you can bend on your morals and boundaries before it starts really eating at you from a like a mental perspective, and then the relationship starts rotting from the inside out. But I think in terms of like what you should do in that situation, you gotta be patient. You gotta wait on your person. And that may be years, but I feel like if you jump out the window too early, then it's gonna crash and burn anyway. You setting yourself up for failure. And and the other way around with the person, I think you gotta be honest with yourself. There's a lot of people out here lying, man. Just lying. You know what? I'm cool with that. I'm good with it. You wanna wait till, man, I'm good with that. You wanna, they not good with that.
SPEAKER_01Then they start looking good, walking around you with a nice dress on or something, smelling good, just got their hair done. You want to touch on them.
SPEAKER_02It's just real. You know what I mean? And it's like trying to get close and personal. Up close and very, very personal. Not with an ER, with a with a UH. Personal. I'm trying to get up and close and personal. But I think that you owe that person the truth if you really care about them. You know what I mean? If you fuck with somebody you don't care about, hold on, let me let me backtrack. I'm not gonna have y'all finessing people. But if you really care about the person, you should respect their boundaries. And you should also be like, I'm so respective of your boundaries that I'm willing to get out your way so you can find a person that's meant for you.
SPEAKER_00Facts.
SPEAKER_02Regardless how much I like you, regardless how, you know, you know, how nicely shaped you are, and how I want to explore certain opportunities with you, I respect you enough to get out your way. And that's the thing. Like, sometimes you gotta respect somebody enough to get out their way. Like, we are in two totally different aspects of our life. You want one thing, I want this. And I like you and we vibe well, we got chemistry, we we got good banter. It's electric when we around each other. But we want two totally different things. And if I don't get out your way, it may be fun at first, but it's gonna crash. And it's gonna be ugly when it crashes. Yeah. But, you know, you gotta get to the point where you respect somebody enough to get out their way. And that's how you know that you really mature. You really, you know, because most people ain't doing that. If I'm curious, I'm willing to sink the ship to find out. You know what I'm saying? So over there, which I got over there. I'm willing to sink the whole boat to find out.
SPEAKER_01And that's just real, man. I think it's, yeah. I want to know the exact situation too, because I'm imagining, let's say this person is a virgin. And they're saying, hey, I just want to wait till marriage.
SPEAKER_02Damn.
SPEAKER_01You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_02Would you be willing to wait?
unknownNo.
SPEAKER_02I mean, no, no, no, no. Okay. Okay, okay, I'm just kidding. Under under them specific circumstances.
SPEAKER_01No, I can't do it. Gotcha. Okay. I'm sorry. Okay. I honor you enough and I respect you enough to bow out on the first date. I'm gonna pay that motherfucker tab.
SPEAKER_00It was nice knowing you. See you when I stick you.
SPEAKER_02I wish I wish you the best, god damn it.
SPEAKER_01But it ain't don't be with me. It ain't me. I clear, I know. Clearly, I'm not the man for you. You helped, you helped me, I helped you. Hey, that's one of them, you know what I'm saying? First date questions. Well, you'll probably know before then, but that's real rap, though. I can't even argue with you, Gabe. I feel you, bro. I'm sorry. Now, if I was, you know, in that situation, yeah, yeah. Right. It's understandable, but we walk in two different paths, man. I'm a grown ass man.
SPEAKER_00So I take you down tonight. You trying to have me wait a whole year and a half.
SPEAKER_02I'm throwing all formalities out the window. I wanted to nah. First date. What's up? What we on? Well we on, we grow. That's hilarious. But it's real though. And again, but but uh as wild as that sound. Just like you said, I gotta respect the A boom. We on two different paths. Let me get out your way.
SPEAKER_01Maybe not tonight, but you know what I mean.
SPEAKER_02Right. With a quickness. Trying to see what it feels like. Got to. Because that's gonna determine again. How far this shit goes.
SPEAKER_00How far this shit goes.
SPEAKER_02Because if it happened in the stress, it's gonna be over with anyway. You understand?
SPEAKER_06So yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. But yeah, but I respect everybody that, you know, stay on their morals though. Because again, like which I get why, especially when we're young, why they didn't want us doing it. Because the experience itself is addicting. True. Very true. So if you don't have much experience, and then somebody comes through and knock your head through the wall, you gonna be so infatuated and want that. You you're not even gonna think about how this person really treating you, how they talking to you. Like you're not even taking a lot of that stuff into account a lot of times, especially when you fresh. You know what I mean? Constantly. You're not even gonna care about all that. You just gonna want that feeling from them. We all been there. So all been there. So yeah, stand on your square. Don't move, don't budge, respect it, or they gotta go. It's just what it is.
SPEAKER_02I agree. And there we are, man. We appreciate y'all tapping in, man. That has been episode six, Trill Academy Podcast, man. We appreciate everybody, all the subscriptions, um, all the views, all the listens, man. You know, we done cracked 500 listeners. It's coming in, man. Five episodes, six episodes in. 500 listeners, man. Audio only.
unknownLight work. Light work.
SPEAKER_02Damn, man. Salute to everybody that's that that's that's checking it out right now, man. I I'm it just feels good to be back in people's radios and airpods and all of these things, man. And like I said, man, we got a lot of stuff coming. I got some guests that I ain't even told you about, game. I'm gonna I'm gonna tap in with you after this over with. But buckle up. Buckle up, man. There's more stuff coming. And um, we appreciate everybody for rocking with us. You know, clip's been doing great as far as views and likes and all of those things, man. And I think it just speaks to the quality of the content, you know, and um, we definitely, definitely appreciate y'all for that. Um, you got anything before we go? I do.
SPEAKER_01You in the Houston area, surrounding area. You know what I mean? You got that little, you got an event going on, you want your moments captured, reach out to your boy. For sure. We out here on the market. I'm doing my thing, doing my one-to. So we'll, you know, we'll talk about it. Tell me what you need, what you, what your vision is, and I'm gonna try to make that mud come to life. You know what I mean? Um, if you want us to see, try come try some food or something, like you want me to shout you out, let me know. I'm trying to pull, I'm trying to support all my people. Um I mean, I'm even I'm talking about doing a little music segment. I'm trying to, I'm trying to, especially artists that's around the area, up and coming, and it's dope, I want to support you. I really do. And I want to help, you know, put you on the map, whatever that looks like. So sing your music my way. I'm down to listen to it. If it ain't good, I'm gonna let you. I gotta keep it on. It ain't gonna be just me. Um, you know, pass to a few people. Hey, tell me what you think about this. So it ain't gonna be like no, you know, I'm trying to shoot your stuff down. It ain't gonna be just me. I'm gonna give you a collective thought. Um, and then you know what I'm saying, we'll go from there. But hey, wish wishing all y'all the best. Everybody that's hustling, everybody that's grinding, everybody that's trying to make a way for themselves and chase their passion, whatever that looks like, salute to you because you decide to take a chance on yourself, and I know that's not easy. So shout out to all of y'all, you know, however y'all doing it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I think this podcast was a good thing.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Oh God, I man, I mean, I I wish I could say how much I relate to that. But what I'm saying is that this part represents the risk takers, dog. Like, we don't represent the motherfuckers who plan it safe. We don't represent the motherfuckers who, you know, at a job that they know they're better than, or who in an opportunity or situation where they know that they could be at a higher position, but they just comfortable, or they're complacent, or they scared, or they fearful. This part represents the risk takers. The ones who roll on the dice, the ones who gambling on who they know that they are, what they know that they're capable of, you understand? And, you know, so if you listening to us, if you're a part of this family, if you tapped into the Patreon and things of that nature, that's my expectation for y'all. And we live in that. And I wish I could tell y'all how authentically we live in that. We living that, you understand? Go for yours. Facts. Because we ain't getting no younger, gang. Like, I'm 36 now, we getting close to 40, all that. Like, Tupac said one time, and I didn't really understand it at the time, but he ended up saying something to the liking of your fight as a person dies down when you're 30. And what he meant by that was when you're 20, you taking. Chances. You rolling the dice. I'm doing stuff I ain't supposed to be doing. I'm I'm I'm all over the place. But when you're 30, life starts beating you down so much to where you start to cling to something for safety. And I'm not as willing to take risk. I'm not as willing to be who it is that I know that I am thoroughly. I'm willing I'm trying to acquiesce. I'm trying to fit in. I'm trying to, you know, to try to smooth things out. And it's like he was a hundred percent right in that. And I want to preach and I want to push going against that. Regardless of age. It ain't never too late. Like even the actors that we seen, motherfuckers went to Oscars at 50, 40, you understand? Like, go for yours. It ain't never too late.
SPEAKER_01I've seen parents go back to school. Come on, man. In their fifties and stuff, so you know what I'm saying? So go do it, chase it.
SPEAKER_02Real rap. Um, and on that note, we're gonna go get up out of here, man. My boy O got a hit for us today. This shit was hard. It was by an artist named Aaron Page. Record called Lord Knows. And on that note, man, we gone.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Oh, won't you look at the time? I've been eyeing you for a little while. The club is closing right now. And I'm tryna see what you about. I've been waiting, waiting, waitin'. And I know what they're talking about. Heard the same lines over a million times. And it don't impress you, right? You know you fine. You make it look easy, but you put it in all the time. And I hate talking over this music. But I'm tryna get through the you and the licking you point gon' do it. Got problems, and we all been through it. Lord knows, Lord knows. All Condition. Do you hear me? Do your speakers. Girl, I need ya. Need your body in motion. I wanna take it there. You know I can see us. Going round for round, doing what we want. Body to body, breaking up on like a Leah. Do the unthinkable, like Alicia. To me, I'm any old right. And I don't wanna do too much. Let's go somewhere they don't know what. Be patient, love, take us all night long. Oh, taking your time coming out of that product. Thinking about giving my son on my daughter. Screaming, daddy. No. And you better you know it. 24 hours with you in love. What we doin'? I can't wait to get you. They don't know about us, us. I would love it. Need no body emotion. I wanna take it. I'm for out doing what we won't. Body to body, no more like a lea. Do the indigable Like a leash to me out. I'm in you. And I don't wanna do too much. Let's go somewhere they don't know what Be patient love take us all night long. Yeah, yeah, all right, all right, all right. Be patient, love could take us all night.