Episode 7: "Kings For Christ"

07:45 – AllStar JR vs Ben10 & J Prince Jr fight/shooting at Confessions in Houston

25:29 – Gucci Mane releases diss track talking about Pooh Shiesty robbery

37:00 – Usher and Chris Brown announce joint tour

42:21 – Anthony Edwards hides assets to avoid paying child support

51:41 – Pastor remixes rap song and adds religious texture to it

01:02:00 – Men and women want different things

01:15:03 – It’s never too late to learn your spouse

01:25:57 – Man gets confronted by wife while trying to get peace in his car

01:47:38 – What are some good proposal ideas?

01:53:44 – How do you deal with a  woman who curves you randomly?

02:02:31 – How can I tell if my expectations are too much for him? 

Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:00

Welcome to another episode of the Trill Academy Podcast, man. Seven in the can. Seven in the can. It's crazy. It's your boy OT, organic OT. Here with my dog.

SPEAKER_01 0:12

Trill AC, man. One and only. Appreciate y'all tapping in. We back at it, brother. I ain't gonna lie, man. The the out point of love, man. We definitely appreciate it. Um, the audio only downloads is going up. Patreon subscribers going up, view counts going up on the clips, things of that nature, man. So must be doing something right.

SPEAKER_04 0:34

Say putting the head down is just working. Showing up every day.

SPEAKER_01 0:38

That's it. That's all, brother. What you been into? What you got going?

SPEAKER_04 0:42

Man, just taking care of the family, following the Aiden around, all those games and practices. Um we just started our sports season, so you know, the last two, three weeks have been crazy. Every time it reset, it's just every season. It's those first three weeks, just be nuts. Because it's just communication with parents. Um this season we had we got flag football going on. So hiccup we had this past week, our all our flag football uniforms ain't come in in time because the vendor didn't get their shipment. So it was just you know, trying to communicate to the parents and letting them know, hey, it's coming soon. We got you. And then it was about to rain. You know, Friday night was raining a little bit. So, you know, parents hitting us up about what's going on with that.

SPEAKER_01 1:29

So it's just When you gonna stop playing and start coaching, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:33

Ooh, coach? Me? Coach O, man. I'm gonna get a tick. Last time I coached, I got a tech. That's six seconds, ref. One, two, I count it up to six seconds. He's like, all right, that's it. See. How you tech me instead of calling the three seconds? Mom, yeah. I don't know, man. I just coach a little bit of passion, man. You know what I'm saying? It's it's he's a kid's.

SPEAKER_01 1:57

I see it coming, though. I see you a lot of time. I mean, he's just too involved.

SPEAKER_04 2:01

Um, that's it. If I had, no, if if I wasn't, yeah, I definitely have a team right now, low-key, for real. Because I'd be at practice with the with the with the coaches, you know, doing the drills. I'm out there like I'm, you know, like a kid again. I love it. I love it though. And just like giving the the kids just game, just like little IQ tips, you know what I mean? Like positioning and you know, like how you box out, or a little, you know, when you getting by defenders or something like that. Like just giving them those small tips and seeing them use it, like it'd be it'd be dope.

SPEAKER_01 2:34

That's the thing. Seeing that like tangible growth, progression based on what you told and what you instilled. I mean, I think you always had that kind of patience and and being being good with you. That's why I say it's just I mean, it's it's right there.

SPEAKER_10 2:47

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:48

Shout out to me and green, man. Me and Green family, Coach Green, Chris, Chris Green. I do want to go over a little bit of a tangent real quick about these AAU parents.

SPEAKER_03 2:57

Uh-oh.

SPEAKER_04 2:57

Because some of y'all, bro, y'all take this shit way too serious. Uh-oh. And to the point where it's disrespectful to not only the game, but y'all kids. Like, basketball is gonna be physical. Especially when you have 12, 11, 10, 9 year olds. Like, they just gonna be running into each other. Right. Everything is not gonna be intentional. So you'll have parents out here, we went to a game last weekend to where one of the kids, which one of the kids or the parent, the parent was all fired up and stuff, when her kid was the one that started every damn thing in the first place. He was emotional, and we just watched him because they played before us. So I'm trying to be encouraging on the sidelines to the man, hey LaMomie, keep your head up, baby. You got it, keep going. It was bro, it was the beginning of the game. It was like six minutes of the game. They down like two.

SPEAKER_01 3:55

You know, people kids can do no wrong and they're not.

SPEAKER_04 3:57

You know what I mean? So he all he all frustrated, and man, man, I call him the five. I said, Hey, Lahome, keep your head up, baby, keep hooping. Y'all, you know, it's a tight game, tight game. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he goes down one play and kind of shoves a kid that's bigger than him. Uh-oh. So the kid that's bigger than him shoved him back. Right. And then squared up. So the parents from the other team, everybody ran on the court. Right.

SPEAKER_09 4:24

And they just drive, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_04 4:27

Now all the parents getting into it. And I'm like, see, first off, had y'all let the ref do the job, it would have been fine. Wouldn't even be a. They probably wouldn't even got a tick. They push each other. It just, again, that's part of the game. Kids gonna, you know what I'm saying, have a little attitude, they're gonna push or whatever. But when y'all jump on the court over a push, nobody swung. Nobody getting beat down, stomped on, jumped, none of that. It's a push. And they had to call the game. Then they got mad because they was down one point, and so they called the game. It was like, hey, it's ball game. 11-10 winna when they're advancing in the tournament.

SPEAKER_01 5:01

11-10 is crazy. Because it was early in the game, dog. 11-10.

SPEAKER_04 5:04

Call the game 11-10 is a while. It wasn't even halftime. It wasn't even close to halftime. So, but yeah, your parents, man, y'all gotta be patient, man. I understand y'all love y'all kids. I love mine too. But let the let the refs do their job. Right. You know what I mean? Like, you if unless your kid is getting stomped out and jumped, there's no reason for you to run on the court.

SPEAKER_03 5:29

Stomped out and jumped is crazy.

SPEAKER_04 5:32

If your kid falls on the ground, no need to run on the court. Because what's what you have to also teach your kids is that you're not always gonna be there. That's it. At the end of the day. You are not always gonna be there to protect them. And the moment they fall, it's like, uh, now they're gonna think mama's gonna save me, daddy's gonna save me, something like that. No. Let the coach walk over there, who's supervising them at the time. Let him check on them. He's gonna be cool. Everybody clap, he's gonna get a little ice pack, whatever it is, he's gonna be back in the game. Good to go. Boys not tearing their ACLs and Achilles and stuff. These boys are 10, 9, 11 years old, bro. Right. Babe, they're gonna be just fine. It just, I got more stories too, but that's just what I want to talk about right now. Look at it. He went right back there mentally. Niggas trying to enjoy the game, dog. We're already paying 40 for the weekend, like it's like it's NBA tickets. Right. We can pay four, we can pay 40 to go see the Rockets. Oh God. Nose bleed for so yeah, man. Let's get to that. What we got today, man? Current event-wise, man. Let's get into it. I want to get into the hottest topic. Uh oh. I already know where you're going. The hottest topic. Since we speak in the fight. Since we talk about fight, I just want to go right into it. So last week, man, last week, on Wednesday, there was situations at Confessions. Right. Rooftop spot in Houston. A spot that we frequent. Right. Nice spot. Got vibes, you know what I'm saying? Hookahah's nice. Food is good. Drinks on point. Service be on point. So I mean, everybody just being there having a good time. This is not a spot that you would expect something happening at all. At least not this. Not this type of situation. Maybe a little scuffle. Maybe. Maybe. But, anyways, so at Confessions, um Ben 10 was trying to rob All-Star JR from Detroit. Who's from Detroit. And NBA Ben 10 is a part of NBA Youngboy camp. NBA right hand man. So according to sources and some videos, allegedly. Oh, also a little backstory. So All-Star JR has a baby mama that's dealing with J. Prince Jr. Right. And just before this little incident happened, J. Prince Jr. was calling himself flexing with the baby mama in his car. Right. Licking on his elbow and shit.

SPEAKER_03 8:10

Myself.

SPEAKER_04 8:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:12

Licking on his elbow is wild.

SPEAKER_04 8:15

So ledger that's some beef for whatever reason. Oh, the uh I also is a little bit because of uh All-Star JR was kind of approaching him on how he was disciplining his son. Right. Kids, plural. So, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, he ain't like how he was handling it and stuff like that. And, you know, they it kind of started from there. So allegedly, J. Prince Dream gets win that bro is at confessions, and so he pulls up with some people, allegedly. They see him, try to take his chain, scuffle ensues for, you know, a couple minutes or so. Um and All Star JR somehow gets somebody's gun.

SPEAKER_01 8:59

Ben 10's gun.

SPEAKER_04 9:01

And then fives. Fire ring out.

unknown 9:04

Fire, fire, fire, fire, fire.

SPEAKER_01 9:06

Right. Hit hit Ben 10 and uh and his uh homeboy, another another NBA member.

SPEAKER_04 9:11

And somebody and everybody take off. But also allegedly I heard that he stood over him.

SPEAKER_01 9:18

Yeah, but I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 9:19

I don't know how true that is.

SPEAKER_01 9:21

I mean, if he if he stood over him and he's still alive, then you know. Boys got some more uh uh whatchamacallit, seduce, or like boys out here pump faking.

SPEAKER_04 9:33

They said too before he ran out of the door, he said something about get a get a bag. Like get a bag, something like that.

SPEAKER_03 9:40

Man, this generation of niggas is out of control, man.

SPEAKER_01 9:47

I ain't gonna lie, man. Like this hearing about stuff like this is letting me know just how old I am. Facts. Because it's like that type of stuff just ain't even on my mind no more, especially when I'm out and having a good time. It's just like bro said, Confessions is one of the like elite spots in the city. It's a nice rooftop vibe. They got inside, outside. The inside is decorated very, very nice. Sections, you know, it's a lot of elbow room in there, you know, it's good food, pretty women, of course, hookah, all of these things there. So it's like when you go there, you expect them to just chill, relax, you know, enjoy the vibe, good music, things of that nature. So for something like that to happen, um, I mean, it's just, you know, not confessions done put out a statement saying, you know, we're sorry about the situation that happened. We, you know, uh updating our safety protocols, things of that nature, right? So then JR, I mean J. Prince Jr. came out after all of this uh happened and put out a statement, basically saying it's a bunch of lies going around, saying that he didn't go up to confessions to confront the All-Star JR, said it was OG3's birthday. OG3 is damn near NBA Youngboy's manager, homie, real close dude. They've been rocking since NBA Youngboy started in the game. Ben 10 is his right-hand man, that's his muscle, that's his shooter, or one of them. Um, but yeah, so basically, you know, All-Star JR's there eating. Him and him and his homeboy, I think, and all of a sudden, you know, because High Confessions is set up, you gotta park um in a garage, and then it's an elevator entrance. So apparently All-Star JR was finishing up his meal, getting ready to get up out of there, and then when he's walking towards the elevator, the elevator opens, and J. Prince Jr. is there, Ben Tan is with him. Um, and then, you know, a bunch of bunch of NBA guys are there with him, or whatever the case may be. And then, of course, you know, altercation breaks out because of what bro just said about it was already smoked because of the baby mama situation and the kids' situation and things of that nature. Now, a little background about All-Star JR, uh, he's from Detroit, and he's the muscle out there for a few people. His pitches dropped, you know, he and pitches with Icewell Bezo, Dirk, uh, little Dirk, free Dirk, as a matter of fact. Um, so he's kind of tied in that way. But he he really liked that out there in Detroit. You know what I mean? He didn't, he done, he done put belt to ass on on the few people allegedly. And so when this whole thing breaks out, you know, like bro said, altercation happened, they get the they get the rumbling. It's like six to eight people with J Prince Jr. and Ben 10 in them, and it's All-Star JR and his homeboy, so they get to jump in them. You know what I mean? I'm watching a video. It's Ikea chairs getting picked up, trying to get slammed. It's out of control. And uh, you know, so apparently this this goes on for a minute in the process of this fighting, Ben 10 pistol falls out his waist. And All-Star JR gets to the pistol while they while they jumping him. And, you know, jumps up, starts shooting. Uh, he hit Ben 10 a few times. Uh I heard he got hit in the neck, you know, in the chest, and I think stomach or spine or something like that. And then his other homeboy got got got hit a few times as well, of course. Everybody get a run in, and which is I'm trying to picture it in my head, because high confession set up, it's elevated entry, but it's also balcony that stairs, that little quick stair. You know what I mean? So it's like I've imagined everybody trying to run down.

SPEAKER_04 13:21

That's a that's a good three flights straight down. It's steep.

SPEAKER_01 13:26

Right. But um, but yeah. So apparently, uh, you know, Ben 10 is is on the ground, video is out of this. There's women standing over him, screaming, all that, and the third, and he got hit up a few times. It's alleged that he's paralyzed, uh, but it hadn't been no word to come out to confirm that. And All-Star JR is on social media turning up, like celebrating, talking crazy. You understand? And uh things have been pretty quiet from the NBA side. Things have been pretty quiet from the uh mob tie side uh until J. Prince Jr. put that little statement out today. But you know, a lot of people is saying it's cap, a lot of people saying that they don't believe that. Because, you know, J. Prince Jr. has a history of being involved in a lot of, you know, um negative situations. Bunch of shootings, some deaths. He was, you know, president when takeoff died. Coincidental stuff. Duke the jeweler, who's also from Detroit. They was gambling, and he ends up getting killed on on when he headed into his car. So it's a bunch, it's a lot of negative mystique around J. Prince Jr. Um, but you know, this is the latest saga in that, in that story. So you got one side who is, you know, NBA Youngboy's the hottest rap in the game at this point. So, you know, his fans saying, oh, you know, he's online celebrating and this, that he's going out like oh, and oh, he's a dead man walking, or you this or you that. And you got the other side saying, man, you did what he's supposed to do. Like he was getting jumped, grab that pistol, you know, whatever, whatever, and and and did what he had to do to get home. So again, me just looking at it, I'm like, man, I I just look, man, I just want more for us, dog. That's it. I just want more for us, bro. That's it, man.

SPEAKER_04 15:12

I mean, yeah, I want to have a man-to-man conversation. Especially if, you know, me and my my ex no longer together. I definitely want to have a conversation with my kids. About my kids, about discipline my kids. Um whether it's true or false. Because, you know, kids can exaggerate a little bit. You know, so we do know that. But at the same time, as a parent, you know, you don't play about your kids either. So, I mean, I've been around enough mature families to know that it just takes a conversation for it to be understood.

SPEAKER_01 15:48

And that's if it ain't no smoke pride too. But I think in their situation, it's is it's deepening rap. Yeah. I think that's an excuse to have beef with them. Because, you know, anybody who is familiar with J. Prince Jr., he's very boisterous. He's very like braggadocious, he's provoking. He's gonna do certain things subtly to try to, you know, do whatever. And All-Star JR, like I said, is one of those guys from Detroit. And he ain't going. So it's like they're gonna use that type of shit. Because J. Prince came out and said that, you know, the talk about the kids was a lie. You know, he said he don't he don't really discipline the kids like that, this, that, and the third. So that's how I know it's deeper than that. Like, you know, it goes back to it, and then you get to looking at who All-Star JR is aligned with, and things start to make a little more sense. So, you know, again, um, you know, it's one of those things to where we just getting too old for this type of shit. And also, it's room for everybody to eat, it's room for everybody to be successful. I'm I'm I'm really tired of seeing us crash out and risk dying, risk jail when everybody gets money, everybody's successful, everybody's doing their thing. Like we're a lot more powerful together than we are apart, but somewhat, one way or another, we always end up on the opposite sides of the fence over some stuff that's really petty, just like you saying, that's some things that a conversation can fix. You understand? But it's like people be so dug in to how they feel and their emotions and things of that nature, the way things escalate to a level that they shouldn't have to escalate to. Because now, going forward, especially after all of this bragging and all of these things that All Star J are doing online, it smoked forever. You know, Ben 10 is the same guy who went on social media before and said that he feels like the president should allot a state to where all of the steppers can move to and they can kill each other without persecution by the law. And, you know, so this is the type of mindset that, you know, we we dealing with here, you understand? Um, everybody looking forward to what NBA Youngboy is gonna say about it. And, you know, because like I say, they they crew is kind of infamous at this point, especially coming off of the King Vaughn stuff. And like I say, All-Star JR is ain't no slouch either. He wanted them ones. So it's like now things are gonna be very uh tumultuous. Just say boys gotta look over their shoulder. They can't be going to certain places. You gotta watch your surroundings, you gotta look over your shoulder, and that's what I'll be talking about about me being too old for that.

SPEAKER_09 18:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:34

Yeah. I mean, I was at the grocery store today, 11 o'clock in the morning. I felt great. I'm I'm pushing the basket. I ended up running into, you know, somebody who's a follower, supporter, and everything. I'm saying what's up to her, and you know, it's it's all love. Like, that's how I feel like everybody should be living. But when you get involved in street stuff, dawg, like the energy that you put out, it's gonna come back in one way or another. The toughest people I know in the world are dead. That should tell you everything you need to know. It ain't no pension plan, it ain't no retirement plan for this street stuff. And once you done shed somebody's blood, it's it's gonna be that forever. So it's like you gotta be ready to, you know, you gotta be willing to go all the way with this thing, but going all the way is gonna lead to one of two places. And you know, these people got kids, I'm sure, families, I'm sure, that that care about them. And now everybody gotta be on guard.

unknown 19:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 19:36

Cause, you know, I don't I just don't to me, I know, I know for a fact a lot of them don't see themselves living past a certain age. So that's why they act the way they act. And also, like for me, I I I love my family too much. I love myself too much. And I want to be able to just see the impact that I can make, the the like the position I can put certain family members in or friends or whatever it is. Like, I want to be able to to see some of those things come to light. Like, I don't want that shit to to end just because I'm I'm beefing with somebody.

SPEAKER_01 20:17

Like, and it's like wishing. Yeah, like that's the thing about the streets, is like once you stamp yourself at something, you gotta live up to that.

SPEAKER_04 20:26

That's true.

SPEAKER_01 20:27

And that's the like issues with it. It's like it ain't no, okay, look, I'm 35 now, my street days is over, I just wanna live in peace. It don't work like that. You know what I mean? Especially when you done shed blood on the other side or you done rob somebody or whatever the case may be. Like these people don't don't never forget about that. So the the second you turn it off, or the second you try to take that, all right, I'm gonna chill, that's when you get caught. You understand? So it's like it, and that's what, you know, I seen somebody make a video, I think it was uh Sean, Sean Cotton, uh out of out of Dallas. He's like a big blogger. And he was talking about the Ben 10 situation, and he was saying, like, bro, you best friends with NBA young boy, hottest rap in the game. Like he said, you should be out there being damn near a fucking AR. Like you should be out there going back to NBA. Yeah, I seen this dude that can rap his ass up. Boom, let's sign him. Let's like that's the type of role that you should have. But it's like because you have this reputation of being a stepper, that you feel like this is this is gonna always be me, or this is something that I gotta live up to, you know. Even a situation like this, uh, you know, allegedly BNT ain't had nothing to do with that situation. At all. But it's like because he is who he is, he feels like for one, people gonna fold and bend because of my reputation. And for two, I gotta continue to prove myself. I gotta continue to live up to this reputation that I done gained. And it's like one thing I done learned about life is everybody not playing. Everybody ain't going, bro. So you could be as tough. As you want to be. You got hats, you got everything. But you're going to eventually run into somebody who's going who you're going to have an off day. And this is what that was. You ran into somebody and you had an off day. Now you could potentially be paralyzed. You're in a hospital with a bunch of bullet wounds over something that ain't had nothing to do with you. Like I say, it's petty stuff. It ain't like mother done robbed you or you like mess with your family or something like that to where it's like, okay, no, I gotta go step behind that. This is something that's just like, okay, I am who I am. I'm just gonna try to just put my little bully game down. Right. And it's like everybody not going, bro.

SPEAKER_04 22:41

Off subject, but on subject, that happened not too far away from here. Shit, about maybe a week ago off South Post Oak. They had it was a food truck, and it was a um, it was a guy trying to rob the food truck. Trying to rob the food truck, trying to shoot, trying to shoot the owner or whatever, gun jam. They had their own piece and return fire. Now you gone. That's all it takes. That's really all it takes.

SPEAKER_01 23:10

That's all it takes. And it's like people be moving around with these pistols and these guns and all this and a third, and and the thing about moving around with a with a pistol or moving around with a gun. This is what my daddy told me a while back. And um, you know, I never forgot it. He's basically saying, like, when you move around like that, you become more aggressive automatically. You're gonna be willing to take things to a level that they don't need to go to simply because you got it on you, because you're feeling invincible. You're walking around with your chest out, you like, I wish somebody would play. I'm looking for a reason to pull this thing out. But what you don't realize is that it's a lot of people who done died with their gun on them.

SPEAKER_09 23:51

Facts.

SPEAKER_01 23:51

It ain't about how gangster you is, it ain't about how tough you is, it's about who got the drop that day. Because these shootings and things like this, it happens so fast, bro. It's not a situation where it's like, I got the pistol on me, okay, boom, they're coming to shoot me, so let me prepare myself. Let me make sure the safety is off. Let me make sure it's a it don't happen like that. Like you be in your car something, I just seen dude get shot pissed on his lap. He didn't have a chance to get to it. Nigga ran up on the car so quick, just boom, boom, boom, boom. And when them shots start going off, you know, it's the it's split second type situation. So it ain't a okay, they shooting now. Let me get the pistol out and return. It don't work like that. So it's like, man, you just gotta move with move with better energy, bro. Like being a gangster or being a tough guy, that shit is overrated. It just is. It ain't no pension plan, it ain't no retirement plan. It's it's very rare that somebody who put a lot of work in as far as catching hats and as far as doing a bunch of robbers, selling a bunch of dope and all of these things, or retired and got out the game unscathed, no jail time, never been shot, never been hurt, never been robbed, nothing like that. It's very, very rare. You know what I mean? But when you when you're putting that type of energy in the world, you gotta be ready. Because it's gonna come back eventually. It just it just is what it is. That's the game that you're signing up for.

SPEAKER_04 25:19

That's a fact. Let's let's stay here. Let's stay here. So we got we got more details about the last situation that we talked about between Gucci and Pooh Shistee.

SPEAKER_01 25:30

And for the record, we was dead accurate. So I want to give our credit for that, but continue.

SPEAKER_04 25:35

So now that we got more information about that, Gucci has released a diss track called Crash Dummies. Right. What'd you think about it? Because I didn't really like it. It feels like he was like talking on the track, kinda. And then it it didn't sound like old Gucci. Um, I think he jumped out there a little prematurely, for sure. And then whoever is is on his team like should have been like, nah, bro, this one ain't it. Cause I turned that shit on, bro, I listened to about 45 seconds. I was like, nah, I can't. I ain't listened to the whole thing.

SPEAKER_01 26:14

Don't really listen to the whole thing was just to get his side of what happened. Because he turned it on and just got to saying everything that happened that day. You know what I mean? And and that was the main part that just stood out to me. It was like, damn. You know, like Gucci has a reputation of being a street guy. Like he got, you know, interviews online saying snitches and is this and snitches that. I would never snitch. I'd never tell nobody, never do this, never do that. And it's like in that record, that's exactly what you're doing. You're telling everything that happened, you know, leaning into it, but it's going back to what you said. I think he rushed out there because the backlash online was just so crazy. And it's like this social media era really puts that pressure on people to do things that they wouldn't normally do or do things that go against their moral code. And I think that that's what this was, you know. And you know, people the interesting part about this is that you get to see how the goalposts move when it's like certain people doing it in comparison to others. I think in in our era, the the snitching and all of that stuff was important. Like it could be devastating if you did that. Like your career could end for doing that. But I think in this new era, it doesn't really matter as much. You you literally got people making excuses for Gucci. Saying, oh, well, he, you know, he's 40-something years old, he's a businessman. Nah.

SPEAKER_04 27:39

Yeah, yeah, CEO nah. Yeah, he is.

SPEAKER_01 27:41

You know, it shouldn't be like he he met up to do a business meeting and they did that, and da-da-da-da-da. But again, it goes back to what I said earlier. When you sign up for that, it ain't no, okay, now I'm done. Now I'm gonna tell, now I'm a law-abiding citizen. It ain't that. Like you signed up for the street, you signed up for that code, the bullshit code, in my opinion, but you signed up for it. So when you break it, you gotta be ready to deal with the consequences of that. You understand? And it's just like that, that this track came out and I was and I was disappointed. I mean, not just in the song, but in what it represented. It was like he'd unfolded to this new generation's code or this new generation's way of doing things. You understand? And it's like I say, I don't necessarily respect the street code. I just respect people having a code. Facts. But I think in this era, it's become cool to kind of bend or to kind of I'm gonna honor the code in some situations, and then when it's convenient for me, I'm not gonna do it, and then I get to get, I get to make excuses as to why I'm not doing it. And that's something that I can't agree with. You know what I mean? But at the end of the day, you know, it's you know, it's not my situation. And uh Pooh Systie is still locked up for it, Big 30 still locked up for it, Pooh Shysy Daddy is still locked up for it. And uh, you know, federal, federal court, they cat they came, picked him right back up. Uh any haters.

SPEAKER_04 29:18

Any hate is uh Hurdy had his ankle monitor on too, still. Had his ankle monitor on. Yeah. And um Was it true about his probation officer calling him before that happened? Or was that something separate?

SPEAKER_01 29:30

I'm not sure about that one. I'm not sure about that one.

SPEAKER_04 29:33

But it was when he was um, you know, on the on the live stream with Ben Nadan. Gotcha. Live stream.

SPEAKER_01 29:39

Oh, yeah, no, that happened.

SPEAKER_04 29:40

And, you know, he his boy called him was like, hey, you know, you need you at home? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I'm at home, I'm at home. I'm like, bro.

SPEAKER_01 29:47

Yeah, yeah. That happened. But it's but again, that's why it's so important to have people around you, bro. That's gonna be able to pull you to the side and say, bro, this is this is stupid. Stay home.

SPEAKER_09 29:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:59

You understand? Like, it it in that situation, because it was six to seven people who went up there with Pooh, including his daddy. And it's like, at some point, it somebody in that group should say, hey, Pooh, look, you just got off from doing seven years, bro. You on federal probation. Like, this ain't no, no, no, we not doing this. But instead of that, he there with an assault rifle in his hand, pointing it at him. It's just like, how are you, you know? I I don't I don't know. People just don't protect the protect the breadwinner no more, man. And that's the part that's just confusing to me. Because, and it was just like that in the King Bond situation, right? If I'm the breadwinner here, the Dirk situation, another thing, if I'm the breadwinner here, everybody around me should be doing everything to protect me or keep me away from the shit that's gonna stop the bag from coming. Pooh Seisty allegedly, he was owed like$25 million from Gucci. And that's what sparked that. And because, like, how them contracts are set up, like, if you go to jail, and now again, I don't know his specific contract situation, but I know in a lot of them contracts, when you go to jail, you quote unquote forfeit the money that you were supposed to make in that in that deal. Even if your record is going crazy and you're doing all of that, that money goes to the label because you quote unquote voided your contract when you got arrested. So that's essentially what happened in that situation from what I'm hearing. So Pooh got locked up, and Pooh was the hottest thing on the streets, back and blood going crazy, uh uh-uh-h uh-uh, should a duck going crazy, all these records going crazy, and all that money is going to Gucci. And Gucci's taking all that money. So when Pooh get out, he's like, Look, bro, you're gonna either pay me my money or let me out of my contract. Gucci said, I'm not doing either one. Because from a contractual standpoint, he's valid in that because the contract states this. But Pooh Seisty is a hood, and you don't care about no contract. And that's where things go left. You understand? Instead of to where a normal person would just hire a lawyer and say, look, you know, these funds are owed to me, whatever, whatever, we're gonna fight it out in court. Pooh showed up with eight people to the stuff, lured him to the studio saying, hey bro, we're gonna link up and uh do some records. So Gucci pulled up thinking they're gonna do some records. Him, his camera guy, and the coup, you know, it wasn't no street guys there with Gucci. It's people that got something to do with the with the industry. Pooh Sise pulled up with seven steppers. And like, look, you gonna let me out this contract, or or or we gonna we're gonna leave you right here with the contract. And that's when stuff got, you know, turned up or whatever the case may be.

SPEAKER_04 32:38

And um But still not understanding too. Like, if I sign it, I'm signing this under duress. Right. So I can also avoid it that way too. It goes back to right. I'm covered regardless.

SPEAKER_01 32:50

Which is what Gucci said. He essentially said, and I heard that he said this during the quote unquote robbery. It's like, bro, like you you you pulling out this gun, you're gonna make me sign it, it ain't gonna stand in court. You still gonna be signing me regardless. And that's when he got mad, and then he started robbing him, told him to take his chain off, take his watch off, all of these things like that. You know?

SPEAKER_04 33:09

Oh, yeah, because Big said Big 30, they recorded it.

SPEAKER_01 33:13

And Big 30 had been not liking Gucci, because Gucci said something slick back before Pooh Seisty got locked up, or maybe right around the time Pooh Seisty got locked up. I think Big 30 had posted a picture of them three and was basically saying, you know, family, this, that, and the third. We we locked in, boom, boom. Gucci got up under the comments and was like, man, we ain't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't rock with you like that. Take that picture down, basically. Or like so, or like something to that liking. And, you know, of course, that rub 30 the wrong way. So when Pooh get out and is on that type of time, Big 30, like, hell yeah, let's go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know, so now Pooh, they they saying, you know, he's looking at, depending on how this thing goes, he looking at 20 years, 20, 25 years. And he still signed the Gucci. So it was all for nothing. And his daddy got hats. So he's gonna do, if not more time than Pooh, just the same amount of time. So it's like all of that for nothing because you don't got nobody next to you to say, bro, this ain't the way to do this. I understand you're mad, I understand he owes you money, whatever the case may be, like we can go about this another way. But when you got people around you who are afraid of being cut off from the from the money, if they disagree with you or if they challenge you, you get this.

SPEAKER_04 34:33

That's what it is too. Cause like what I'm noticing and what it appears to be is yeah, because they're the they're the ticket, it's like I can't go against what he's saying. Regardless if it's it sounds crazy or not. I can't go against him because you know, it's he the man essentially. But I think from my experience and a lot of things that I do know, you get more respect from quote unquote the man or the ticket when you do go against him, respectfully. If it's like, hey, bro, I don't think this is the best solution, or hey bro, did you think about this? Now unless he just like a crash out regardless, which you know, he could be. So that's why you may you may be in fear and going against him. So from that aspect, I kind of, you know, I kind of get, but at the same time, you know, if if if he's supposed to respect you, I think your opinion would be valid.

SPEAKER_01 35:32

And if this my real homie. You know what I'm saying? I would rather us fall out from me trying to tell you right than to go along with some bullshit that's gonna jam all of us up.

SPEAKER_04 35:41

All of us.

SPEAKER_01 35:43

And that's what happened. You know, it's it's just like the King Vaughn thing. Like it was certain people who King Vaughn is around all the time who wasn't there. Like a Dirk, like certain people who, if they was there, that would have never happened. Dirk would have never let him do that. He would have grabbed him and said, bro, it's 20 people with you. Have one of them go do that. Right. But because nobody that Vaughn looks up to is there, he's the top dog. And just like ironically, Pooh Sise said in his record, he'd say, Unfortunately, I'm the CEO and the top shooter from my gang.

unknown 36:16

Shh.

SPEAKER_01 36:17

This was in the first day out, this first day out lyrics. But that's the real scenario. He's really the top shooter, and he's really the CEO, and he's the he's the star, just like Vaughn. Same thing. He got the most hats out of all of them. They respect him, they look up to him, but he also the breadwinner in that circle. So it's like most people that's around him is just gonna be like, all right, bro, let's do it. Whatever you want to do, bro, let's go. Yeah. And now you got situations like this happening. You know, so I just I just feel bad because, you know, Pooh Sicey is one of my favorite rappers.

SPEAKER_03 36:45

It's like all my favorite rappers just getting locked up, man, or getting killed. Damn, man.

SPEAKER_04 36:51

Free Dirk, man, by the way. Uh, damn. Jesus Christ, bro. Hey, man. So back to the confessions topic. Usher and Chris Brown. I like what you did there, boy. You good. Boys coming out together on tour, eh? Hey. They ain't released the dates yet. But Chris Brown and Usher.

SPEAKER_01 37:13

Take my money right now, man.

SPEAKER_04 37:14

That's gonna be a dope ass tour.

SPEAKER_01 37:16

Because it's it's ironic. Me and my old lady went to both their concerts last year. Both of them was legendary. No opener. Two and a half hours of hits from both people.

SPEAKER_04 37:26

If you had to pick which one, which one had the best performance that you went to? Which one put on the show? You gotta pick one.

SPEAKER_01 37:38

That's kind of tough, man. Um I'm gonna go. I'ma say breezy because Usher kind of used the cheat hole with the with the with the skating. Okay. Because, you know, he he brought the skates out and all that. He was performing record skating and all that. Chris Brown was dancing the whole time. And he he he got attached to some stuff and got lifted into the air over the whole stadium. He's dancing, hanging from the ropes, flipping up and down and doing all kind of stuff. Okay. And the mic was on. Now, in other situations, the mic was on too. So I don't want to, you know what I mean? Because some niggas be letting the track play in their mouthing, the mic was on both times. So it's it's literally right here. It ain't a it's it's he's way better than the big thing. It's right here. But, you know, me. Ah, it's tough. That's tough, man. That's tough. You know what I did wish though? I wish Breezy performed more B side records. I think he performed a lot, he had a lot of his big hits. To whereas Usher got into that B side bag, and the B side bag was just as prevalent as the hits. Right, right, for sure. You understand? So it's like, no, but but it's certain B side records Breezy did, and they went crazy. Like, like your man ain't me. It's a B-side record. Crowd sang in it word for word. You understand? So all I know is when the tour is announced, they got my money, and I'm gonna be within the first five rolls. Right. That's all I can say.

SPEAKER_04 39:18

Yeah, man, they go this time. I missed all of it last year. Oh man.

SPEAKER_01 39:22

Yeah, man. Shit, we had to. Yeah, yeah, Beyonce too, man. It was Beyonce. That's when Beyonce almost fell out the Cadillac in the air. That shit was crazy. When I say you should have seen people, like, people start panicking in the crowd. Like they were like trying to get over there. They was they was pushing me to get over there. Go over there and save her. Hey, baby, look at her. First off, I'm not gonna be able to close. Secondly, but yeah, I mean, it's you know, it's certain people, man, that like when they outside, you're gonna like you're not gonna lose paying that ticket. Yeah, for sure. It's certain people. And Chris Brown, Usher, or two of those guys, like, yeah, it's gonna be hits for two hours. It ain't gonna be a good come through there, 45 minutes, they play three, four records, you know. Like, they got a catalog that's like both of them didn't get into half of their catalog that they could have done. You understand? Like, it's the catalog is just that that deep. So I could imagine, man. But you know what I do hope. I hope that while they on this role, that they do a project together. That'd be fire. I think it's long overdue. Yeah, long overdue. Because I think they maybe got two records together, I think. Maybe.

unknown 40:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:37

It's like that is that is that is outright egregious. You understand? So then you got people on social media saying, oh, you know, who will win in the verses or who gonna have the best one? And Chris Brown commented underneath it. He was like, I don't want no smoke. He said, I'm just happy to be a part of it, you know. Love Usher, boom, boom, boom. Like, so it's just it's gonna be love there, man. And and like I say, just talented guys, bro, just hits galore. Like, you're gonna be on your feet the whole time. Cause that's how we was with Chris Brown. Like, we bought seats, but nobody was standing up. I mean, nobody was sitting in them. Yeah. Because it's just every time you get ready to sit down, you hear, oh, he playing that one. So it's that. It's the same with with Usher. It was the same way. You was we was standing on our feet the whole time.

unknown 41:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:21

Catalog just just just that deep. You know what I mean? You know, some some concerts, you you're gonna sit down three, four, five records. Ah, this ain't really me. But with them, shit.

unknown 41:32

Yeah, I can't man.

SPEAKER_04 41:33

Well, no, no, I'm tripping. I I saw the Usher one. I'm tripping. No, not last year. I seen Usher in 24. When he first, I think when he first started the tour. Mm-hmm. It's 25. Yeah, yeah, 24. Blessed by beatbox. We're still with the beatbox.

SPEAKER_01 41:54

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, so like I said, I can't wait. I know, I know one thing, man. If you're gonna get it, buy it when the tickets come out. Because resell, they're gonna be smacking.

SPEAKER_04 42:04

They're gonna be smacking. Don't make no sense. But it won't be bad to buy some, just flip them. You know what I'm saying? They didn't buy them again. Really? That way you don't lose. Oh God. All right. Anthony Edwards, man, is accused of hiding assets. My boy. To avoid paying. I used to hire from child support. Fam.

SPEAKER_01 42:34

I swear, man. You know what I love about Anthony Edwards? Is Anthony Edwards moves exactly how we would move if we was there? EBI just like, it's no media training. It's no a political movement or answer. He just is who he is, unapologetically. So for those who are not familiar with that situation, Aisha Howard is like a like an Instagram girl, whatever. And Anthony Ellis ended up getting up pregnant. Right? They was messing around. She got pregnant. So she texted him and told him that she was pregnant. And he was like, What you telling me that for? You need to, you need to get rid of that. She was like, I don't, I don't feel comfortable doing this, that, and the third way. He said, Well, I'm not gonna be in the kid's life. So, I mean, you might as well, or whatever, whatever. She's like, Why do you hate like do you act like you hate me or or or do you hate me? He said, Yes, I do. Because you bringing in the kid, it's a broken situation that you know this was a this was a one-night temporary flyby night situation. Come on now. And you're trying to capitalize off of it, and it's like, no, no, I'm not gonna be a part of the kid's life or whatever. So now again, I'm not cosigning that part.

SPEAKER_03 43:46

Cause I know what y'all are gonna say, ah, he got a pregnancy, he needs a but he was honest up front.

SPEAKER_01 43:52

Like, if you had a baby, I'm not gonna be in the kid life. Of course, I'm gonna take out my financial responsibilities, but you know, it is what it is. But She wanted to have a kid anyway, because she because she wants that paper. Let's just put it on the table.

SPEAKER_09 44:04

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 44:05

And it's like so when sh so she ends up having a kid. And then she tried to take him to court to to get that paper that she supposed to be trying to get. But he done moved a lot of his assets over into somebody else's name. So when they get to running his his income and his whatever, whatever, it's not showing much.

SPEAKER_03 44:25

So he can get the child support payment down.

SPEAKER_04 44:28

Yes, sir. To the minimum. You get what you get.

SPEAKER_03 44:33

Yeah, you better take the little$2,000 a month call of the day.

SPEAKER_04 44:37

Get what you get. Hey. That's what y'all get, man. Trying to get underneath underneath the man. Every time, brother. Another person just like that, uh, Kobe Lane. I heard. I heard. That's a smart man right there. Hey, fellas, we changed the game right here. I love it. You get that paper and put your name and business and all that stuff under your parents' name. So when they try to come get after you, hey, baby, I ain't got it. I make$20,000 a year. And with what that situation was so dope, is they had an agreement when they got married that whoever had the most money, that's who would get the half. So because his girlfriend, I think she was like, she had like 10 mil, so he get half of that.

SPEAKER_01 45:17

So he coming off the top. That is hilarious. I love to see it, man. Because it's like, and it and it's it's just a damn shame they gotta be this way, but that's how family court kind of makes it, you know? Um, especially in a situation like that. That man put a lot of work in on TikTok. Uh, you know, he just signed a$900 million deal or something crazy like that. I d like you don't deserve$450 million of my money. You sure you just don't. You know what I mean? And it's like, I don't care. And they know they don't deserve it. That's why they be trying to be snaky and trying to do little stuff, just like the Steven Jackson situation. It's like you wait till we get all the way to the wedding and you still ain't signed this prenup that we've been talking about for months that you've been supposed to sign. And it's like, no, you're not gonna sit here and try to, you know what I mean? Like insult my intelligence, like, oh no, why is the what why is it necessary? I just met you. You've been knowing each other two years. I've been hooping for 20, putting work in, getting this mate, getting this paper, and you think you about to get it. No, you're not. Now, I'm all for, like I say, if you've been with somebody, for instance, me and my old lady situation, we've been together for a long time. So if I come into a lot of millions of dollars or whatever, and we and it go left, I don't mind giving her a a lot of my money. I don't. She she's been there throughout it all. But you're not gonna come in here, we've been together a year, two years, and think you're about to get half my money. Are you insane? Not even, no. No. So it's just like, bruh, I, you know, which which brings me to, you know, off topic, but on topic, it's another situation. It was a it was a lady out of out of Detroit. Damn, I damn I wish I knew her name. Her name is is escaping me, but they recently found her shot four times in the face um parked outside of her apartment. So apparently she was dating a guy who was married, and she gets pregnant by this guy. And the dude was, of course, like, nah, we gotta get abortion, whatever. She said, I'm not getting an abortion. So he ends up taking it into his own hands and sending uh uh sending somebody over there to shoot her when she was leaving her crib. And it's like this is uh you know, this is a circumstance to where it's like, bruh, like I'm not trying to risk my marriage, I'm not trying to do this, I'm not trying to do that, like just get rid of the baby, and we we keep rocking. No, I'm no I'm not getting rid of her. Now again, I'm not saying that situation is right. I want to I you know I want to make that clear. But it's like, bruh, like what's the goal here? Like, cause I be trying to put myself in people's shoes. If I'm dating somebody, and if if I was in a situation, I get pregnant, and this person is showing no kind of like, nah, I don't want no parts of that. I'm hell nah. I'm not bringing no baby into this world under those circumstances.

SPEAKER_04 48:15

I'm just as baffled as you are. I can't, I can't think, I can't fathom. Just nowhere in my mind will be like, why would I bring a child outside of you poor, but even still, you you're having your religious beliefs. Even still. That's cap. It's like if you if you had those type of religious beliefs, why would you see them with a married man?

SPEAKER_01 48:37

Why would you have an unperset sex with somebody you're not married to? You know what I mean? So and that'd be my issue. People when it comes to religion, and and that's my issue, a lot of people who are like Bible thumpers, quote unquote, or people who want to use religion when it's convenient. It's like you can't pick parts of the religion to stand firm on, and then when they don't benefit you, I get the wavering and doing doing what I want to do. It's like, no, it's either you all in with this shit or or you can't use that as no defense or no excuse. And again, let me make it clear. I'm not taking no accountability off of the man in that situation. You definitely need to protect yourself. And if she decides to have the baby, you need to take care of the baby. Even if you're not in their life, you need the baby needs to be financially taken care of. Yep. That's my stance on it.

SPEAKER_08 49:25

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 49:26

You laid down. Period. You understand? It ain't it ain't no way around that. But it's like in that situation, if I'm the woman, I'm not bringing a kid into the world with somebody who has adamantly stated, I want no parts of that situation. You're already coming in backwards. Exactly. But it's like people be making decisions for them and not the kid. Like, rarely ever is the kid taken into account in these situations. Because you're trying to have this baby to get money. And it's like that's cool, but now this kid is gonna grow up broken mentally. Because, like, why is my daddy not in my life? And then if then, of course, you're not gonna tell the whole story, you're gonna tell your side of it. And now the kid growing up conflicted, confused, and then they meet the dad one day and the dad to the other side, and it's like, damn. But it's like now the kid is damaged.

SPEAKER_04 50:20

Yeah, or even when growing up and they find out the real. Right. Then they resent you.

SPEAKER_03 50:25

Right.

SPEAKER_04 50:26

And they don't come, you know, now they disconnected from the family, ain't trying to be around you on holidays, birthdays, none of that. None of that. Because of your selfish decision.

SPEAKER_01 50:37

You know, it just is what it is. I just, you know, again, I'm not people people gonna live how they wanna live. I'm not in people's business. I don't care enough, to be honest. But I just wish that people took the kid into consideration more when they was making these decisions. And oftentimes they do not. They're making decisions based on me. I want to have this baby because I want to have it. Is what it is. It doesn't matter the effect that it's gonna have on the kid, bringing them into a broken home or bringing them into a situation that's broken, and I know it's broken before I get into it. Now, if y'all dating, y'all doing y'all thing or whatever, get pregnant, a kid here, y'all break up, that's something different, right? Because the intention was for us to be a unit. But when this established right from the gate that we will never be a unit. For you to willingly bring a kid into the world, I don't know, bro. I just can't wrap my head around that.

unknown 51:29

Hey, man.

SPEAKER_04 51:31

I need you. I need your help, B. Need you to pull up a uh pull up, pull up something real quick. So while we on the on these, these these uh so-called Bible thumpers and hypocrites, there was a pastor. I'm getting good at this boy.

SPEAKER_03 51:47

I'm getting real. I see you. I see you, boy. Working at the craft.

SPEAKER_04 51:54

This boy, remix fiend at church by Travis Scott. He's out of control, man. We got a head, man.

SPEAKER_01 52:02

Hold on, man. But y'all gotta stop playing with God like this. Is it playing?

SPEAKER_04 53:32

Is it playing, though? Y'all playing with God. Is it playing? You in the house of the Lord, you talk about godly things. Hey, I don't see nothing wrong with it. If you want, if you if if you want to attract new people into the church, you gotta be people where they are. And I'm gonna tell you why. Okay. See, I you know, hey, I've lived many lives. I'm a young buck. Right. I mean, I'm an old buck now. When I was about 15, me and my boy started a group at church.

SPEAKER_03 54:08

What was the name of the group?

SPEAKER_04 54:11

KFC. Kings, Kings for Christ. Now listen. That's the title of this part. That's the title of this part. Now listen. Now listen. Your boy, yay. You know I used to be a rapper. I was a rapper in at church and I was rapper in the streets.

SPEAKER_10 54:29

Oh man.

SPEAKER_04 54:30

We remixed Big Mo. I was at the what?

SPEAKER_03 54:36

How'd the remix go? Now I'm now curious. You wanna know? Now I'm curious.

SPEAKER_04 54:44

I was at the church one night. One night, that's when I saw the light. It was kind of bright to me. It was kind of hey, we had the devil was all up in my grief. It was more. So I showed him my Holy Ghost gifts. I'm just a though, young Christian. Though young Christian. I'm at this church and I'm looking for the channel. No, y'all ain't used to the first. When I leave, I don't want to remain the same. Lord, I need your help. Lord, can't you see? I realize the blessings that you've given me. You died for me on Calvary to save my soul and set me free. Hey, boy. Hey, was it our bag? Y'all going to hell on Scott's. No, we wasn't. We was reaching to the teens. How you gonna break some teams in that? You gotta rap a little bit. But you gotta think too. This is 05-06. So that's when church rap was trying to pop off, too. Gotcha. You know what I mean? That's where Mother was kind of straddling the line. You know what I'm saying? Boys try to. How can we get the youth in the church? Yeah, it was a tent revival. We had a little tent revival, boy.

SPEAKER_01 55:54

Then I guess the mission is to get people to the word by any means.

SPEAKER_04 55:58

Yeah. Cause they used to get mad at us for dancing. Like we'd have a, you know what I'm saying? They'd be singing something. We up there trying to do a little Dougie or something like that or the choir stand. The old folks didn't like it.

SPEAKER_01 56:09

Pastor say, calm y'all ass down.

SPEAKER_04 56:11

The young folks, the younger parents, they was cool with it. Cause they said if you if we wanna if we want to invite our kids in here, this supposed to be a safe place. Is it not? So now you're restricting them from their way of praising the Lord. True. Come on now. Come on, Pastor. Come on now.

SPEAKER_01 56:30

Y'all boy's still going to hell. With a letter of recommendation. For sure. But I see the vision. No. Hey, don't you see? Gotta be to where they at, baby. That's hilarious. Um, you know what it made me think of, made me think of the Drewski's skit. Mm-hmm. To where Drewski was. For those who ain't seen the Juicy skit, make sure y'all go watch the Drewski church skit. That's probably the funniest skit that then came out this year. But, you know, he was on the pulpit, he had red bottoms on, he had, you know, jewelry chains, Rolexes, and driving Rolls Royces and all kinds of stuff. He's like, you can't tell whether it's secular or Christianity at this point. Like, what's the, like, what's the where's the line? Like, the word is supposed to be strong enough to get people to it. But if we get to reach it too far over that line to try to pull people, then, you know, where does that leave us?

SPEAKER_04 57:22

I mean, that's why I didn't like Kirk Franklin at first.

SPEAKER_01 57:25

You used to hate on Kurt Franklin.

SPEAKER_04 57:27

Yeah. Because he came in on more of an urban tip. Right. Think about stump. Boom, boom, mmm, mm-mm. You know what I'm saying? That ain't no gospel, no classic gospel. No, holy. You know what I'm saying? Now he came in with some flavor.

SPEAKER_08 57:45

They like, the hell is this?

SPEAKER_04 57:47

Right. So yeah, I mean, I kind of look at it like that. And a lot of the lot of his songs, too, he took from like RB songs. He just kind of gave him other remixes to where it was digestible. You know what I'm saying? Hey, it's it's it's tough, but hey, you gotta do what you gotta do. I see the busy. As long as you do it for the Lord.

SPEAKER_01 58:07

And I think that's what the issue is that what's the line of doing it for the Lord or me living out my dreams that I wanted to have before I found the Lord and using the Lord to facilitate it.

SPEAKER_04 58:21

They say he watched over all your steps.

SPEAKER_01 58:23

This boy was comfortable as hell on stage. I know. He was he he the boy had auto-tune on his microphone. What didn't he auto-tune for the Lord for?

SPEAKER_04 58:32

You know, it's a you it's a little theatrical, too.

SPEAKER_01 58:36

It was a lot of theatrical in this. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, I mean it worked, it went viral, so I'm I'm pretty sure his membership is going up.

SPEAKER_04 58:44

You only see that like the big churches, though. You don't really the small churches, you don't see that.

SPEAKER_01 58:49

I'm trying to, Pastor, I'm trying to think of my you know, I used to I've I went to church a little bit back in the day. Maybe about maybe about maybe about five Sundays combined. But when I was there.

SPEAKER_04 58:59

You ain't seen Rolls Royce. Mm-mm. You see your bands? They had regular declared cars. They might have had a cat like a Dodge Caravan or something.

SPEAKER_03 59:10

See a Cat Lag Escalade. Was it new or used? I don't I ain't I don't know that for.

SPEAKER_01 59:19

I just know it was maroon. It was a maroon Cadillac Escalade. And that was, you know, Pastor used to hop out of there like he was a rap star pulling up to the concert.

SPEAKER_03 59:34

Shout out my boy Spice, man.

SPEAKER_01 59:37

Hey, real rap. We pulled out with the gators. Hey, coming here deliver this, you know, deliver this word. Flex play went around about four or five times. We had the building fund, we had the youth fund. We had um goddamn, what was the uh the love offering? Yep, love offering. And then they had one that was for the um the uh charity events that they throw, like the the cook-offs and uh different different things. I can't think of the name of it.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:04

Lucky it wasn't no visiting pastor, because you know, visiting pastor, you get one for the visiting pastor. So now we got six plates around. Yeah, hey, sometimes you are not obligated to put it in all. Really, it's more so just a home. Take care of your home. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 1:00:20

You just want to how much you used to put in that plate when it came around now. Shoot, I used to borrow buddy to put it in that.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:34

I ain't bringing no change today. Uh I ain't about to put this 20 in there.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:41

Niggas say the 20 when we draw the line. Hold on.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:48

The 20 ball is when we draw the line. God damn it. Hey, I'm 12, 13, 14, 15. I ain't put no 20 ball in there. I put a 20 today because I ain't going all the time. Right. You know, I put up, you know, make up for lost hops. But uh. Niggas say the 20 ball is the breaking point. Hold on now. Hey, who got five in there? I was junior digging too, so sometimes when I be holding this, see a nigga drop a 20, I'd be like, okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:12

Give it a second thought. Nigga, I must pull the 20 out the plate. Boy. They had the camera on this nigga. Yeah, look around.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:17

We had to count the money right in front. Well, not count, we had to separate it. Yeah. We had to put all the more to five to tens to the twenties. We want to so bad. Can't do it at the Lord's house.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:26

Yeah, y'all playing it, playing with the Lord, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:29

Niggas going to hell, man. I swear.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:31

I ain't seen this much money at one time.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:34

Okay, man. Salute to all the hustlers. I mean, the pastors out there doing their thing, man, and and y'all boys keep it up, man. Where we at, man? We're gonna study all.

SPEAKER_08 1:01:44

Yeah, just just give the money.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:47

Just give the money. Get the collection, play it around on that side. Nigga, get it around on that side. Oh, Lord have mercy. All right. Um, first one we got, man, is speaking about men and women wanting different things. Thought it was a very interesting clip. Oh, put it in here, man. We're gonna play it.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:06

We're gonna break it down, so I want to come home and talk about why work wore me out today. And it's slightly different than yesterday. And I just want to feel heard in that process, right? Like for women, I think a lot of the bonding sometimes comes in the getting it out and the sharing and the exchanging of information. That's a simple question. Please.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:27

Why not just fill in all the blanks?

SPEAKER_06 1:02:30

Because I want you to ask me, because I want to know that you care enough to know that you're not going to be able to do it.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:33

I'm looking at you. I'm giving to you. You got my undivided attention. Just go.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:42

No, but that's fair. That's fair. But it's like there's something about the follow-up question, right? That makes I think a woman often feel like, but wait, there's more? Tell me more. Well, then what does she say? But it and like, look, I also have made peace with the fact that's women wanting men to be women in certain situations, which just isn't the case. In the same way when a man expects a woman to be a man, like, well, I'm not, like, I'm in my feminine right now and I think I'm gonna cry for a few minutes, or I want to nurture or nest or whatever it is. And so I've really gotten to a point where I embrace, you know, and also important to note like these terms, these definitions are so fluid and it can be applied to anyone, whether masculine, feminine, talking to a man, whatever. But if I want to be in my feminine and my softness and like embracing being a woman, I wouldn't expect a man, or I would hope that a man doesn't expect me to show up as he would. And so I've come to the place where I'm like, I can't expect a man to show up the way that I would. And I think when we as men and women embrace those differences and look at it as sort of yin and yang, as opposed to why don't you just do what I do? Well, because I'm not the literal opposite.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:54

We come from self-centered perspective because why? You spent X amount of years in your body as a woman. I've spent X amount of years in my body as a man, and when we come together, it's like two bodies of water crashing together, and it takes time to settle down and to settle in.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:13

Man and women, the difference. We just want what it is that we want, and we want it our way, and we want it to look familiar to how we would look at it. Do you agree with that?

SPEAKER_04 1:04:28

For the most part, yes. Um, I think at the end of the day, though, we just want to be understood. But it gotta be our way of communicating. Communicating, whatever that looks like though. You know what I mean? Because like with guys, we just have our own natural banter. Right. Like we don't even have to know each other, but it's just a dialogue and a code that we'll speak with, or as you're talking, we just know how to jump in and jump out of conversations. Right. But with your woman, like, your woman is more so wanting you to, like she's saying, like, she wants you to kind of be dialed in and asked the detailed questions. Men don't care about the detail. We just don't about want to know about the end result. We gonna, we want to know, matter of fact, tell me the end first and then get to the rest of the stuff. Right. Like, that's kind of how we operate. Like, we don't really care about the start, middle, details, end, like that's just that's just not us, really. Right. You know what I'm saying? We just free-flow conversation and it happened how it happened. Like, somebody can tell a terrible story, but we don't care. We're gonna piece together by asking questions. All right, no, what okay, so I know take me back, take me back, take me back. All right, so how did you how'd you pull up to the situation when you were talking to a lady or on on a date? You know what I'm saying? The woman wants you to start from the very beginning. Like how y'all met, how you asked her out, like, you know what I'm saying? Things like that. It's just like a lot of details that, you know, we don't. We're not um anxious for I guess you could say. Like we just let the conversation be what it's gonna be. But like there's like real specific things women like to hear and and go by whenever they're having a conversation. So that's why they like talking to their girls a lot. Because those those girls, they'll ask those detailed questions. I think that's it's different.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:23

I think women want us to just actively listen, but they don't understand that our way of actively listening is just different from theirs. Like men, when we listen to our woman, we listening for keywords. We not just like bro saying, we we not listening for the okay, I made the left turn and then I made a right turn to get to the situation that eventually turned into like we don't care about the left and the right turn. You put up to the situation and and what happened? Who did what? Okay, boom. Because in our mind, automatically when she's coming to us, we already trying to plan for the fix. That's just how we wired. You understand? So if it's a situation and she's talking about a grievance at work, like in the example she used, we automatically in our head coming up with, okay, well, boom, next time go about it like this, or she probably meant this, or she did, she that calm down. You know, we trying to calm the situation down. So we listening for key words. So just like you're saying, like we don't need all of the detail. But I think that that's the difference between men and women, and in my opinion, I think that's the main wall between us. We refuse to accept the fact that our partner processes things differently than we do. As a matter of fact, we kind of take it as an indictment on our partner for not processing things the way we do. Anger builds up, resentment builds up because they're not looking at it from the lens that we're looking at it from. Instead of appreciating the fact that they're looking at it from a different angle, they're processing it differently. So they're gonna be able to give me some information that maybe I hadn't considered before. And now I can make a more informed decision in comparison to if I'm talking to somebody who thinks about everything the way I do, looks at everything the way I do. Now it's just a venting session. It's not a okay, boom, I'm gonna bring this to you, give me your perspective. Okay, boom, I can I can use that. I don't really agree with that. Whatever, then we can have that conversation. But if we just agree on everything and we look at everything the same way, there's no progress there. There's no iron sharpening iron there. But I think a lot of people perceive that iron sharpening iron as oh, you just don't care, or you just not as invested as you should be, simply because I don't see things the way that you do. And I think a lot of men suffer, you know, uh uh during those conversations from that lens. And it's like, baby, no, I I'm locked in. It's like bro said, I'm looking at you, I'm listening. Right, actively. I'm actively, I just don't process it the way you do. I'm not saying how you process it is wrong, I just process it differently. But a lot of women will take that as, okay, well, you're not on my side. Or like, why are you defending them? It's like I'm not defending nobody. I'm on your side a hundred percent. I'm just saying, look at it like this, though.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:09

She ain't trying to hear that right now.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:10

Nope. And I think that's the evolution of man. Like when you've been in a relationship for a long time, you start to realize how important it is just to simply be on her side. Period. So whereas we be trying to, you know, give you a little constructive criticism, or well, I mean, you might have you might have been a little out of pocket when you approached her, or you know, or nah, she said that, but you might have took that the wrong way. She didn't really mean that. Instead of going through that and trying to, you know, constructively criticize her or elevate, it's just like, nah, you know what, baby, you're right. You're right. Now you can still give her the information, but not in that moment. Yeah. Because in that moment, emotions is too high. In that moment, she just needs a sounding board. She just needs reassurance in that moment. Now, when things calm down next morning, you know, baby, I was thinking about the situation. And like, maybe, you know what I mean? Maybe she meant it this way. Maybe she wasn't trying to come at you for real. It's just, you know, whatever. And she's gonna be more open to receive it after, you know, the tension and everything kind of died of the situation. But I think a lot of men make the mistake of like because like we're trying to give her a more well-rounded view, she should be open to receiving it at any point.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:34

Right. You know, and not only not only is it like just that active listening and and reassurance, it's low-key they want they would like us to be like a little, like a journalist. You know what I'm saying? You think think about that, like they want us asking them questions about what's going on. That's how they kind of perk up and and and think that we're more interested by us asking questions about the story that she's telling us. Right. Asking questions about the character that she's describing. Okay, so when you said this about Keisha, like, um, you know what I'm saying? Does she does she normally do this? Like, is it the first time it's happened? Or because I I ain't heard you bring her up before, so can you kind of give me a little backstory on her? Like that make her like perk up and really, you know, get into it. And I'm learning, but normally you like, well, you know, Norman, that's great. That's why. Damn. They did that. And what you do? But you but it's actively listening. Right. You know what I'm saying? But I'm also I'm also learning, too, on the opposite end, that when I'm telling her my stories to give her more details. Because if I don't give her more details, she's going to ask me in the middle of me trying to give my story. Right. So I'm learning to take my time and really lay it out. Almost like a movie, like a movie scene. I paint the picture and I let everything out, everything I can remember at least. Right. Paint the whole picture out. So then I'm like, was that, you know, how'd I do? That was actually pretty good. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, bet, okay, I'm learning a little something, learning a little something. But normally, I'm just, you know, I tell the piece of the beginning of the story, I tell the end of the story, I come back to the beginning, I go in the middle, I go to the end. Like, I'm I'm all over the place with a story, and she, you know, she lost. Yeah. She's trying to put it together. She don't work like that. You know what I mean? But with us, we just chilling back. Whoa, okay. Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:36

So Yeah, I mean, it's it's just about picking your spots, you know, and also just getting it across that like I'm I'm on your side, baby. Yeah. Like I'm I'm I'm with you. Whatever we dealing with, I got you. Like, period. You understand? And I think once that gets across, like, it'll be a lot easier for you to I guess give the contrarian point of view, you know, or play devil's advocate in a situation to try to get her to see it in a different way. But if you just lead with contrarianism or you lead with, like, you know, she's gonna she's gonna take that as you taking their side. And now, you know, that kind of jeopardizes the the the feng shui that y'all done built within a relationship. So I think a lot of men, man, just gotta be cognizant of that because when it's the other way around, like when we telling our story and our grievances, you on our side 100%. They did what? They up hell no, ain't no way to uh like they they they ready to ride out, and it ain't even that serious. Like we just took like, nah, baby, you it wasn't that big, but I'm just saying, but she ready to go. Like, she on your side a hundred percent. So I think women wanna just feel like you on their side, and even like I said, if you got some, you know, contrarian or like a different perspective to give it to them, just do it later or do it after everything and calm down. You know what I mean? I think everything goes smoother, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:58

Facts. No, I agree a thousand percent, just going back to it later, because I've definitely, you know, had to circle back, you know, after I've had a moment to think about it. And I just said, hey, baby, you know what? You know, earlier when you said such and such, you know, I I came by the wrong. You know, I was thinking that you was against me in the situation, but you really weren't. You would you were just really, you know, one to be into the conversation and you was asking questions. Right. You weren't against me, even though it it felt like it. It felt like it in the moment. So I, you know, I apologize for that, and you know, I'll do a better job of just explaining the story. That way you don't have to, you know what I'm saying, ask those type of questions because I'm gonna give it to you ahead of time. So yeah, they ain't hey, ain't no ego. Ain't no ego, and that's gonna save you every time. That's how you can tell you've been in a relationship a long time. Boy, I can just see it. I can just see it. I go to bed. I don't care if you're angry. Right.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:55

Okay, they're gonna turn it on.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:58

Oh, God. Uh all right, this next one, man, is saying it's never too late to learn your wife. It was a powerful clip, man. They were speaking uh just about the dynamics of marriage and how it's a constant learning process. I'm gonna play the clip, man. We're gonna break it down.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:16

Apparently, in our marriage, for 20 years, I bought Melissa gifts, and she never said when she didn't like them. This happened in Mother's Day. So all these years I'm buying her gifts. And of course, she likes some, some she doesn't like, but when she doesn't like it, she never says anything to me, right? So her birthday last year, I bought her two Gucci fanny packs, okay? Two Gucci. You feel me? Thing been going good for the kid. You know? So for the first time ever, she was like, you know what? I don't really need two Gucci fanny packs. Like the fanny packs, like a trendy thing. I don't need that. How about we take one back and get me a purse so I can use it all the time? I'm like, okay, you know, that's unusual, but who makes it? Okay? But like we do in marriages, we we got a scoreboard. And the scoreboard only happens when something's back, right? So I put that in the back of my mind, like, she returned a gift. Huh. But I don't say nothing. Okay? The next Mother's Day, like literally the next time I'm buying her a gift, I buy her some red bottle Christian Louin Hung. And I'm talking sparkly, diamondy, great to me. You know, hand her these shoes on the gram. She's opening the box. I'm already recording, like, this is perfect to look for. Yeah. No, this is gonna kill. She doesn't like I I noticed in the story, and she didn't give me the reaction I wanted, so I didn't post it. I was like, you know what? I'm gonna like I want another take. I want to give you a chance to give me what I was going for in my shop. So now, a week or two later, she comes back and she's like, you know what? I don't even like those shoes. I don't even like gaudy shoes like that. I want you to take these back and get me a pair that I like. So I'm like, now y'all, y'all wanna hear some truth? We were working on in our marriage, being completely open and honest at the time. We had heard it in podcasts, so we're trying. Right? So when I say, man, you're getting really difficult to shop for.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:07

That's a brave soul right there, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:09

There's a you can be honest, but you gotta be tactful. Right. You can't say that. Not even close.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:18

It's certain shit that's just off limits. The other women, my mama do it this way. It's certain things where it's just like, nah. But just be best to keep that in. But he was talking about, you know, again, man, it's never too late to like, like every time you think you got your partner figured out, they're evolving constantly. And the things that he was buying at the beginning of relationships, he probably would have loved that. But, you know, as we get older, what I've noticed is we settle into who we are more. We more unapologetic. Like, we more, we're less concerned with public perception in regard to what it is that we like or what it is that we want to do or what we want to wear or where we go or what we drive or how just different things like that. And he kind of got a crash course in that, you know what I mean? Because he on social media looking at those other women that he's talking about, and they getting gifts, you know what I mean? They get that Louis Vuitton, they they jumping through the ceiling. Or that Christian Louverton, they going crazy, but it's like that's them, that's not my old lady. You know what I mean? And as men, like you gotta be able to make that distinction. So what's your what's your thoughts on that, bro?

SPEAKER_04 1:19:31

I just think you have to really take your time and understand that you have to learn your woman and that she's ever evolving. Again, like what she may like one year, she may like, may not like the next year. And if you buy something and she don't like it, don't take offense to her. Just go back, okay, babe, what what what what do you like? What what would be better? What would be more comfortable? Like she said, I don't need two Gucci bags. I'd rather have a full-on bag that I can use on a day-to-day versus something that's being trendy. So listen to her and just go get it. Like you gotta our ego, we gotta put that to the side. Because yeah, you know, like you said, you know, I got these two Gucci bags. I'm just shh, I'm just no, I'm don't know I'm about to kill it. Which you may feel that way. And it may feel crushing for her to not appreciate that at the moment because you're assuming what she likes when that that's not what she really wants in that moment.

unknown 1:20:31

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:32

And, you know, again, she liked that a few years ago, but that's not what she wants right now. So I would say just listen to your woman, man. If anything, I would just do a little cheat sheet. You know what I'm saying? When she hinting at certain things, putting in the notepad or make a little note or whatever it is. Like that way you know exactly what she wants. Uh-huh. And you won't have to, you know what I'm saying, miss so many times or feel like you're not doing something right. So whenever she's coming to you, you know, and and mentioning uh whether it's a a bag or it's a plant for the house or it's a car that she's looking into pretty soon, things like that, like really pay attention to that. If your woman wants that Audi, don't go buy her uh uh Nissan Pathfinder. Like that ain't what she wanted. She wanted the A8. She wants that A8. She wants the Pathfinder. You go buy her Pathfinder. No, dick dog. No. It don't work that way. Just listen to your woman and and it'll make things a whole lot easier. But, you know, we'll try to go against the grain sometimes, and you know, just try to, well, you know, she loves me, so she's gonna appreciate this. Right. She loves you and she's gonna tell your ass the truth.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:48

So I mean, there is a such thing as a selfish gift giver. And I think a lot of us are that. Exactly. Like, we buy gifts that we would like, or that we enjoy. And if you don't have the same reaction, we would, we take it personal, or we have resentment for it. And it's like, no, you gotta analyze your partner, especially when y'all have been together a long time. Like, you need to be paying enough attention to know that my old lady is not that type of woman, or my man is not that type of man. So, what regardless of what I'm seeing online, I ain't got nothing to do with my partner. Like, I need to study my partner to realize what it is that they like. You understand? And it's just like we be going above and beyond to kind of force them into what it is that we like, or force them to appreciate what it is that we would appreciate if they did for us. And that's not realistic. You understand? Like, you're gonna you're gonna be disappointed. Just like he was disappointed when she took it back. Like, damn, I can't believe she took my gift back. Yeah, but that's because you that ain't what she wants. And you deep down, you knew that that wasn't what she wants. That's another thing. Sometimes we be trying to put our partner on what's hip or what's new or trying to, nah, but you, this is what's it. Like, you need to know, you need to listen to what it is that they value and give them what they value if it's truly for them. But the problem is a lot of times it doesn't be truly for them. It's to stroke our ego. Yeah. And that's what's not like admitted to enough. Like, I bought this because it's gonna make me feel good to be able to do it for you.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:23

Not only that, it's I think sometimes too, is spending that. Like on that, on that bag or whatever it is, like, yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's and you know, to the person that's working there. Yeah, I'm you know, I'm getting this for my woman. Right. You know what I mean? That is a good fulfillment as a bad. But sometimes, been spending that 1,500, she that could be some, you know, tickets or somewhere. She's been mentioning she wanted to go on the trip. More than she mentioned the bag. But you buying that bag and you could have just took it out for the weekend somewhere. You know what I mean? So yeah, that's that goes with just paying attention and listening to your woman, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:00

100%. 100%, man. And and also like you can't take it personal when they don't value certain things that you do for them. Like, all you can do is like take that education, take that information, so moving forward that you can make better decisions. I think a lot of times in that situation, like, a lot of men will take that, oh, you took my shit, but I ain't buying you nothing else. I ain't about to do. And it's like, nah, you can't take it that way. Like, you take that as newfound information. See, me personally, like, when it comes to buying expensive things, like what I done learned is to just not buy them. I'm gonna just bring you with me and I'm gonna let you pick what you want. There it is. That way I know you're gonna like it. Never get it wrong. You understand? Undefeated. Never lost. Never lost. Shout out to LeVar. Uh, but I mean, that's a foolproof. And again, you know, I know people be wanting to surprise people and do certain things like that, but it's like, I would much rather you really appreciate what it is that you getting than me surprise you with it and you ain't really rocking with it like that. And now you got, because you know I done spent so much on it, you gotta act like you like it. Or you got, you know, instead of just bringing you there and be like, all right, boo, look, man, pick, pick what you want. I I got you. Budget is this amount. You know what I mean? Like, so now she get to, oh, bet. Oh, okay. I'm uh she way invested now, because now she, you know. So it's like you gotta be like humble. Like you gotta humble yourself enough to be able to listen to the fact that you didn't get it right. You missed the mark.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:37

And that's okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:39

That's all right. She still loves you anyway, brother. You got but you know, again, everybody ain't gonna appreciate what it is that you appreciate. And that's not an indictment on there, or it shouldn't be an indictment on them. That's just it. Um, we're gonna get into a controversial clip, man. It was a woman who they claim was nagging her husband as he was trying to get a bit of peace in his car. Now we're gonna play this clip and we're gonna break it down. This is crazy. Um one second.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:15

Sick and worried. And this man is sitting in this car. Really? Really? Really? Seriously? Seriously? Why are you sleeping in the car? Why are you sleeping in the car? So why wouldn't you come inside? Is your life that terrible that you need to be in the car? Is your life like that difficult? Why don't you come inside? For an hour you've been out here? You've been out here for an hour? Do you want me to bring you something? Come inside, baby. Come on. Well, I'm gonna come and sit next to you. Did you just lock the door? Open the door. Open the door. Apparently, Joe Budden's podcast.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:43

Alright, man. So basically, you know, it was a guy. And again, I heard on the back end of watching this that she's like a viral type of person. Like they be doing skits and different things. So this could this could be a skit. But this is very Relevant to how people's relationships work in real life, so we're gonna address it as if it's real. So basically, you know, she in the crib looking for her man, wondering why her man ain't came in. She looks outside, see that he's in the driveway sitting in his car, so she goes outside, and that's when that conversation ensues, right? And some of the key points of that conversation was like, Why are you in the car? Because I'm I'm just trying to rest, bro. You can't come in the house and rest? I don't feel like I can rest in the What do you mean by the okay? Well, can I come sit with you? No, you can't. So in that moment, right, reading the comments, they was literally split in half, which I knew they was gonna be, like halfway through the video. I already knew. And of course, you got the women saying, like, that's ridiculous. Like, why are you in your car? Like, blah blah blah. Like, like if you that unhappy, just leave. Then you got the men saying, like, y'all don't have no idea that's how we get through the relationship, like, because we be needing that time ourselves, and blah blah blah blah. So you got this clash going online, right? And then an update video came out to where she was saying that he ended up leaving her. And saying that, and she blaming uh social media. It's y'all's fault, because y'all, you know, was bigging it up, saying that I was annoying him and saying this and the third, and he listening to y'all, and he done actually walked out of this relationship, and blah, blah, blah, blah. So that's just the context of what's going on. Give me your take on it when you first seen the video.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:32

Hey, man, that's real life almost triggering. Because it's selfish from the woman aspect, especially if I'm telling you, you ask me, do you feel like you can't get no, you know, sleeping? No, I cannot. And some don't click in your head like you're not a part of that. And if I say I can't, you know, I I I don't want to go inside, and then you say, Well, I'm just gonna come sit next to you. No, I'm telling you, no. These are the times where the these type of women don't listen to that man. And it's probably why it is the way it is now. The reason why he has to sit in this car for an hour plus at a time. Because when he gets inside, he can never get that. He's probably, I guarantee you, he's tried to express this on several occasions. So, what does he do? What do men do? Okay, let me go back to the draw, but okay. How can I get a little rest or how can I get a little reset? I'll just I'll just chill in the car, I'll pull up to the crib. I'm not cheating, I ain't going nowhere. I'm not doing something that you know I shouldn't be doing. I'm just gonna reset in the car before I go in. And then you interrupt that. So then it's like, damn, I really can't do anything. And you being persistent on not allowing me just to get my time back. Like that's that's selfish, man. A lot of men go through that, and it's unfortunate because it it should come a place where, you know, a man has in his own home uh like a man cave or just anywhere, anywhere that he can just gather himself real quick. Because again, you know, women, y'all go through things, we go through things, and sometimes we just need a light reset before we can give you guys our all again. Because sometimes you get drained from work or you get drained from the previous week or whatever it is. So I'm trying to get myself back right so that I can give my all to this relationship. But sometimes it gets to a point where the battery is drained. So I need a recharge some kind of way. And then you constantly unpulling the plug when I'm trying to recharge this battery. It's never gonna end well. It's not gonna end well. And that social media ain't got nothing to do with it. Because I can tell you now, it was probably already on his last leg.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:01

100%.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:02

If he outside and that's becoming a routine, he also slowly plotting his way out.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:09

I agree, brother. I I think that this was a microcosm for how a lot of men feel within their relationships. You got men who are literally carrying everything on their back. Going out, working my ass off 12, 16 hours a day. I come home, I gotta take care of you and everything that you got going. I gotta sit down and listen to your grievances, problem solve, fix everything. I gotta come in, help with the kids, make sure the homework is done, make sure that they're doing what they're supposed to be doing, things of that nature. And it's like, by the time we get time for ourselves, it's midnight. It's one o'clock in the morning. And if we gotta get up early the next day, then we're getting two, three, four hours of sleep, and then we gotta start this whole process over again. You understand? So it's like, where do we get our reprieve? Every time we around you, it's obligation field. You're asking me to do something, right? I just got off a 12-hour shift. I walk through the door, and before you even get the, hey, baby, how was your day out? It's hey, but yeah, we gotta do this. Can you, can you take care of this for me? Can you, can you, I ain't even got to get in and get a shower and get settled in first before I walk in here to more obligations. So it's like I'm dealing with obligations at the job, I'm dealing with obligations with you, I'm dealing with obligations with kids. At one point, at what point do I get to just and a lot of women don't understand how they contribute to the lack of peace in a man's life. And I'm not saying that the women are doing it intentionally. I'm saying that she didn't even have the wherewithal enough to ask why you are in this car. It's automatically, what are you doing here? You can get rest in there. Okay, I'm gonna come sit by you. I'm because instead of just saying, baby, what's going on? Talk to me. How can I, you know what I mean? Like, how can I fix it? Like, how can I because that's gonna take looking in that mirror and accepting the fact that you may play a role in his exhaustion, in his lack of peace, in his lack of safety. The the the house is supposed to be where you come home and you unwind and you take a break from everything that you're fighting out there in the world. But for a lot of men, the house is not that. The house is another obligation that adds on top of everything that they're dealing with outside.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:46

Another angle, too, is sometimes it's not even, you know, hey, we gotta do this, we gotta. Sometimes it's why didn't you?

SPEAKER_01 1:34:55

Right.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:55

You know what I'm saying? Which is nothing. It's like, okay, I'm coming home, and the moment I get home, you telling me about the stuff that I didn't do.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:04

It's like, I'm not trying to hear that right now. There's a lot of shit that you didn't do. Right. And I'm not bringing it to you as soon as you walk in the door. Can I get a hey? Can I get a hug? Can I get a kiss? Like something.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:17

As a matter of fact, the things that you didn't do, we as men, we cover it on the back end sometimes without even telling you that we did it. Just to keep the shit rolling. Right? Because it's a lot of times as women in relationships, y'all leave hair on the counter when y'all doing y'all hair, or y'all come in and take off your bra and goddamn put it on the couch or whatever the case may be. We don't say, hey, come down here and get this bra. Like, how old are you? Are you a fucking adult? Like, what's going on? We don't say, hey, man, come get this fucking hair off the counter. Like, what we got his and her sinks, but your hair's on my side. Get this shit up. We don't do that. We just pick the hair up. We just pick the bra up and put it where it's supposed to go, right? And we don't, we don't speak on it. We don't say that. We just do it. But on the opposite end, it's a situation where every time, everything that we do wrong, it has to be called to the carpet. Every time. So it's like from our perspective, it gets to a point where it's like it would be nice to come home and it's just no obligations. Come home and just relax. Come home, just watch TV. Sometimes I don't want to talk about the day. You come ask me, what happened? I don't I don't want to talk about it. But it but instead of accepting that as a response, you'd be like, you know what, baby, just not in the mood to talk. We just gonna chill, we just gonna watch TV, we're gonna lay here. Well, why don't you want to talk to me? Is it something about me that you don't want to talk about? Or what you don't feel safe enough with me. So now it's turning into an altercation that we didn't want to have, which is why we said we don't want to talk about it. I'm not in the space to talk about it right now. But you want to talk. Like you have to talk about it. Because that's how you like process things best, and that's how you feel content within the situation, but it's not always about you. And I think in a lot of relationships, it's always about her and what she wants. It's never about what he wants. And that's where you have situations like this, to where it's like, and my car is all about what I want. I just want to sit here and close my eyes. I'm not out messing with no girls, I'm not at the club, I'm not doing I'm I'm just in the car trying to gather myself for these obligations that are waiting on me when I walk in this house. And you come interrupt that. So where is my recharge? Where is my reprieve? And a lot of men feel like I don't have a chance to reprieve. And if I do reprieve, or if I do shut down, you're gonna get on me because I'm shutting down. And now we argue. Now it's a back and forth. And that's exactly what I was trying to avoid. Further and disturbing my peace. It's just real. Like a lot of women don't realize how much, how important creating that space is for your man to unwind is. Now I'm now again, if you got a man that's on bullshit or you got a man that's out there, you know, doing a bunch of things, embarrassing you, you know, jeopardize relationships, things of that nature, I could completely understand. But if you got a man that's that's really about you, he's going to work, he's coming home, he's taking care of the crib, you ain't got to worry about a damn thing. Everything you want to do, he facilitating. The kids don't need for nothing. Everything is taken care of. You got a grown-ass man, it's on you to create a space for that man to come home and feel relaxed and feel at ease. But a lot of times that's not being created because it's all about what you want. This man at work 12, 16 hours, come home, and you tell me, well, why don't we go out more? We need to, we need to be on dates more. We need, why you not romantic? Why you not this man is busting his ass every day to make sure everything else is taken care of. You plan a date.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:07

Come on now.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:08

You goddamn plan plan a trip. You plan the romantic shit. Since that's so at the forefront of your mindset, you do it. Because I'm taking everything else off of your plate. You have nothing but free time. While I'm busting my ass every day to give you this lifestyle that you take for granted. You don't have to worry about bids being paid. You don't have to worry about uh hearing no when you want to do things. The least you could do is pick up some of the slap. But oftentimes that don't happen because a lot of women are selfish and they are entitled and they are spoiled.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:49

And that'd be the thing too. You wonder why, like with men, sometimes the conversation doesn't go well. It's because we're already under zero. We we have we don't we're we're not in the space now to have a great conversation, to be, to be able to really listen and take our time and you know, ask the right question, things like that. If he's already frustrated and you dig in the ditch deeper, like the conver the conversation's not gonna go well. He's gonna be very direct, it's gonna sound like you know, he's being an asshole and things like that, because of the whole situation that even led up to it. So it's like if you if you give a man just some time to just get himself together, get his bearings together, just relax and just rest a little bit, you know what I'm saying? Then we'll be able to have better conversations with you and and shit, even start opening up more. But a lot of times we don't even get to that because we're steady, if not, we're not defending ourselves, it's just always trying to repair things that shouldn't be repaired, or or going back, having old conversations, or we operating from reverse. You know what I mean? Like some stuff is like we've talked about this before, or we dealt with this before, or we just, you know, sometimes they could just be fed up. And again, just like we as men have to look in the mirror, ladies, sometimes you have to look in the mirror and be like, okay, what can I do differently? How can I deliver what I'm saying differently? I know I want to go on these dates, but how can I bring it up to him in a different way to where, you know, he hears me? You know, some of that falls back on you too. Hey, babe, okay, I understand that you, you know, you are busy with work and things like that, but would you mind if I plan a date? And he might be like, hell yeah, please. Because sometimes there are some women who just look for men and do so many things in a relationship, which we don't mind carrying a lot, but at some point it's like, what are you doing for us in this relationship? Like I think too, as men, sometimes we we should be more open and just say, hey, I I need more from you. You know what I mean? Like, I what you're doing is great, but I need a little bit more from you.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:13

True. And also as the partner in that relationship, you need to analyze what your partner is doing and figure out where you can pitch in. Because if I'm in a situation to where my partner is doing X, Y, Z, 60, 70% of the work that sustains this relationship, I'm gonna constantly be looking for ways to contribute. I'm gonna constantly be looking for ways to take things off his plate. But you got people out here in the world, relationship, friendship, whatever the case may be, to whereas they don't think that way. They don't think to, okay, what can I pick up? What can I take off your plate? I see you doing a lot. What can I take off? What can I? They don't think like that. They think like, okay, what am I receiving? I don't feel like I'm receiving what I should be receiving. Damn everything else that you're doing. And that's where you run into issues. Especially in a relationship. You got men out here who are going to work every day, providing a lifestyle, taking care of the kids, taking care you don't want for a damn thing. And you're complaining to this man about the fact that he's not romantic, or you're complaining to this man about the fact that y'all don't go on more dates, or he's not being innovative when it comes to dates. So again, if you're not working, or if you're not, you know, whatever, like this man is doing a lot, so it's like at some point it's like, you know what? Let me pick up that part. Since this is so important to me. Because if the shoe is flipped, like, that's how like men are wired. Like, we always looking for a void to fix or a gap to fill in, right? Because we want to feel useful. We want to feel like we're doing something that contributes to this relationship. But I think a lot of women show up to a relationship with the mindset of what can I receive here. You got some women who will who will, you know, go above and beyond and make sure that they contribute and things of that nature. But I don't feel like that's most women. I feel like most women show up to a relationship with the mindset of what can this man do for me. And then when you got a man who does a lot of things for you, you begin to take things for granted that this man does for you. Despite the fact that your friends are struggling to get their man to do simple things that your man does without even thinking. Despite the fact that your friend calling you complaining to you about the this, I gotta buy I gotta pay all the bills. He's driving my car. He don't have a car. All of these issues that you hear your friends complaining about, you don't have those issues.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:50

Don't let you run it down either.

unknown 1:44:52

Shh.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:56

So at the at the end of the day, bruh, it just boils down to like as as men, like, we need help too. But it's certain things that we shouldn't have to ask for. If you love me enough, I shouldn't have to ask for that. Or if you're on me about something specific, you gotta take into account everything else that I'm doing. Because let me explain something to you. You're not gonna get somebody who checks off every single box that you have. Nope. That's just not reality. And if you think that's reality, you're gonna be single forever. Right? You could you have people who can check off most of those boxes, and that's on you to aid in the other boxes being checked or help them get there in the couple areas that they are deficient in. But if you're showing up to that relationship with the mindset of what can I gain from it, you're gonna run into issues, and now you got men who are in relationships busting their ass, doing everything that they can to make sure the relationship goes, and they feel like their efforts are not being appreciated. And that's the worst type of man that you could be with in a relationship. A man that feels like everything he's doing is not being appreciated. Then when he goes out there and crashes out, he's wrong. He's a monster. He he he he's you know, he he was the you should have just left. You could have just left all these things, and it's just like, well, you could have just pissed in for the couple things that he wasn't doing right. Because he's doing eight out of the ten things right, but these two things, you could have pissed in to help him do right. But instead of doing that, you're gonna stand on your high horse that he provided and complain about the two things not being right. Yeah. Yes, sir. But you know. At this point, man, we're gonna go ahead and get in the uh QA, man. Cause we done we in we in that pod, man. Sometimes you get that pod back, you just gotta go, man. You just gotta get that pod back. Um we had we had a couple questions came from Instagram, but Patreon question just came in. So Patreon is priority. So we're gonna go ahead and ask the uh Patreon question, man. Now, bro chose to be anonymous, so we can't say no names. Yeah, uh-uh.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:20

We got a question from Drove Johnson. I want to remain anonymous. Oops.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:30

Damn. What the my nigga marriage, man? He's trying to get some insight.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:34

All right, bro said, I want to remain anonymous, but for a great reason. I have a question. I'm going to propose to my woman next month, but I'm conflicted on how I'm gonna do it. So, y'all are married men. I'm pretty sure y'all are not gonna let me down with this one. What would be some great proposal ideas? Here's the tough part about that. It's a lot of good ideas. Right. But I think at the end of the day, like we were saying before, it it comes down to knowing what your woman wants and what she likes. There you go. So I can get and give you a couple ideas, but you know, is you know, some women they may not like attention. So they may want something private. Some women may want their family involved. You know what I mean? Some, you know, women wouldn't want you putting them on a jumbotron at a basketball game or something like that. Even though you think that's dope. I didn't pay this money on single, you know, you may think that's fly, but she don't want the attention like that. You know what I mean? So um, if I had to say, I mean, I would just say do something fly, you know, depending on how how locked in y'all are. Um, you know, get some roses involved, some RB music. If you can get like the little backdrop, you know, will you marry me or marry me, something like that? Get on one knee, you know, like I said, do it in front of a few close family and friends, something like that. Um, do she want it all over the internet, you know what I mean, with people recording and stuff. So I think you gotta ask yourself those type of questions. What what type of woman is your woman? And I think then you can kind of scale it from there.

SPEAKER_01 1:49:23

I mean, I think you I think you hit it flush. I think just make sure that close friends and family is there or or involved, you know, if her pops is in her life or whatever the male figure is, make sure you reach out to him first, you know, get that, you know, approval. Hey, look, man, I want to, you know, marry your daughter, man. I just want to get, you know, your your blessing on it, things of that nature, you understand, and then give them the opportunity to be involved. Because I think like most women, uh some women who go according to what bro saying, like they don't want none of that publicity at all. But I think most women want at least their close family, close friends there to be. Able to see it, you understand? So you got to be able to facilitate that that type situation. And that right there is easy. We can go to a restaurant. We could, hey, look, man, let's all, you know, it's family go out to eat, you know, whatever, whatever, whatever. And, you know, I got everybody. Don't worry about it. You know, it's that. You know what I mean? And you can kind of set it up that way just to make sure that they're in the building or make sure that they, or even if you're not paying for everybody, because everybody may not want to eat or whatever, but they just want to be there. So you can, you know, orchestrate it, make sure you're reaching out to the best friend, reaching out to the mama, you know, people who play a pivotal role in setting that thing up. And, you know, uh, another thing, make sure her nails is done. That right there is key because the ring is gonna be on there. She's gonna be taking pictures of her hand, putting it online. You wanna make sure that the nails is done, nails is fresh, so send her to the nail shop that day or the day prior to. Um yeah, you know, it's it's just certain things like that. Like you got to think about like the aesthetic of the situation matters to women. It doesn't necessarily matter to us. And a lot of times that's where we drop the ball.

SPEAKER_03 1:51:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:02

You understand? You got dudes who are proposing in the living room with nobody there. And it's just like to you, now again, I understand that should be accepted because I'm a man, right? So my mind is biased in that way. But women, the aesthetic matters. So you gotta make sure that the aesthetic is set up for it to be memorable. You know, women wanna be, you know, on Instagram with it. They want their friends there, they want to, you know, go through the whole rig and roll. So just figure out what type of woman you got and go for that. Because you may be done, just like bro said, you maybe done called call the unicorn. We don't care about none of that. Right. And then at that point, then you go ahead and operate how you're gonna operate. But in terms of most women, most women want the aesthetic to be right. So, you know, you gotta go with the aesthetic.

unknown 1:51:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:48

And I I would say too, and you can tell us later, but is she expecting you to propose? Right. Because if she's expecting, then you definitely don't want to do something that you just haven't done before. Because then she's gonna it's gonna tip off.

unknown 1:52:03

Right.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:04

If you want to be a surprise, do some some things or at a place that you normally go to. Right. You know what I mean? So, like you said, if y'all, you know, you just want to take out on some nice, even if it's anniversary, if it's if it's cliche, however you want to do it, you know what I mean? Um, you know, nice anniversary. Hey, Bam, you just get your nails done first, do this, do that, and then y'all meet at a restaurant and your people are, you know, y'all people already there. You know what I'm saying? Walk into something like that, or you know what I'm saying, whatever it is, but don't try not to do something that's just totally left to where she was like, give it away. Oh, he's about to propose it. Right, right, right, right. You know what I'm saying? Like, you want it to be special for you too. You know what I mean? So more times than not, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:47

More times than not, she's gonna know. Yeah, yeah. Because women pay that close attention to us. Now, we may be able to, she may be to get some off on us because we kind of pay, like I say, we pay attention to key words, key situations. Women can women can tell. So, just make sure that everything is in line. Yeah. You understand? You know, because that that is very memorable at the end of the day, man. The proposal especially is for her. The we're in the majority for her, but proposal, especially for her. That's her time to shine. That's her time to to goddamn step on these other women. Because that's how women literally weaponize that type of thing. So it's like give her the ammunition to be able to get that off, and you're gonna have a way more happier woman. You understand? That that's just my take on it. Um, all right, QA, man. This is the the next one. It says, came from my my bro. He said, How do you deal with a woman who just curves you out of nowhere when things were going good? Everything was smooth. Oh, and she just go go. Like, look, man, I can't do this. It's over with.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:58

That old thing came back. That's the first thing I think about. That old thing that came back. He he, you know, sold her a good dream this time around. You know, it's familiar for her. He already touched the back of the tonsil. Nigga was deep. So bro, bro got an advantage on you. He got he got what up on you. She knows how it feels. She'll know how you feel. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Time a little. Sometimes a little time invested uh will will outweigh what's what's incoming. You know what I mean? Like the men say, never mess up your for show for some boat.

SPEAKER_03 1:54:43

Shout out to the OGs, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:45

OGs definitely passed that one down. Um I think, bro, you gotta think. Sometimes you gotta thank people for curving you, bro.

unknown 1:54:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:57

You gotta thank people for curving you early. Because it's a lot of people who you be invested in. Like, I done spent a lot of money on, I done spent a lot of time on, I done start making future plans regarding, and then they curvy. That right there is devastating. When you got somebody who lets you know close to the front, like, look, man, this ain't gonna be that. You gotta thank them for that.

SPEAKER_09 1:55:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:55:21

Even the ghosting situation, like I would thank somebody for ghosting me. I wouldn't be mad about it. Because it's like I could have wasted way more money. I could have wasted way more dates. I could have got my feelings really involved before. But you got up out of there before any of this happens. So it's like sometimes you gotta thank people for getting out the way. So somebody who's actually worthy of being there can come into the situation. That woman never likes you to begin with, gang. She used you as a rebound. And that's just what it is. You got women who will be at odds with the dude that they really like because he don't want to commit to her, he don't value her, he don't pedestalize her. So he ends up, he ends up making uh uh having her build up the gall to say, you know what? I'm gonna start dating. I'm gonna start entertaining people. But her heart was never really in entertaining other people. She really liked dude. Yeah. But he just wasn't budging. But then when he sees her start entertaining you, then he steps in the picture and starts telling her what it is that he knows she wants to hear just to pull her back. And that's a situation that you want to stay far the fuck away from. Because that's gonna get your heart broke. Because you're gonna be done, took this woman on dates, you're gonna be done listening to her story, y'all gonna be done and extend, you done told her your story, y'all got damn trauma bonding and all type of things of that nature, and then she just pulled the pull the rug out from under you. And guess what? Sometimes the date can be great.

SPEAKER_04 1:56:42

For sure. Connection be great. Most times it is. And then boom, just ghost you. Hey, you gotta eat that. That's just a part of the game, big dog.

SPEAKER_01 1:56:52

As a matter of fact, the date being good oftentimes triggers the ghosting. Because now this is a viable option from what it is that I'm quote unquote trying to get away from. And I ain't really ready to get away from it. So it's like, nah, gang, like how how you interpret that is for exactly how she moved with it. Don't try to read no more into it. Don't try to goddamn shoot her no bell. Don't try to make excuses to stay, things of that nature. No, she showed her hand. You thank her for showing your hand. That's just like if you in Vegas playing poker and somebody show you their hand. You thank them for that. I don't appreciate you, bro, because now I know I was about to put all my chips in this situation. Your hand better than mine. Let me just fold. I get to cut my losses. So sometimes you gotta thank people for that. But you know, I that's why I always be feeling like it ain't no woman that's that's that's that's really single. And women be trying to argue with me when I when I say that. I've never met a single woman who was actually single. I've never, never in my life. I'm 36 years old. I've never met a woman who says she was single, who was actually single. Most women who I meet that say they're single is waiting on a nigga to act the way that she wants him to act. And the second that he shows even uh uh uh goddamn remnants or an inch in the direction that I want him to be in, I'll drop everything that I'm doing to go meet him there. That's most women.

SPEAKER_04 1:58:25

That bag already packed, like that uh what's that? What's that what's that uh the bag when you're about to have a baby? Yep. That little uh emergency bag or whatever. Yeah, emergency bag for sure. Just like that.

SPEAKER_01 1:58:34

For sure.

SPEAKER_04 1:58:35

It's already packed, you just waiting to go.

SPEAKER_03 1:58:38

And how I know is because I done been the nigga that she dropped it off of.

SPEAKER_01 1:58:46

I ain't telling you nothing I ain't lived. I've been him. I'm telling you how it goes, bro. Most women have their mind made up on the man that they want to be with. That's that's the reality of the situation. But he not moving at the speed or he not showing the commitment that she wants to show, so she, in an attempt to get him to do that, say that, okay, I'm gonna start moving like I'm single. But she don't really want to be single, and she don't really want to move like that. But he kind of forcing her hand to do it, and when she does start moving like that, he he gets nervous and then he starts to try to acquiesce to what it is that she wants just to show her that, hey, look, hey, chill out. But when he starts doing that, she chills out. And go right back to him. But unfortunately, it's a lot of dudes who done got their heart broke, being the potential dude that she potentially moved on from. But man, that's it's part of the game.

SPEAKER_04 1:59:49

And sometimes too, you might, it could have been a let's say it's the third date. You say things were going good. It could have been like the third date, and then you just said something or did something that was either corny or she just didn't like and just rubbed her the wrong way. Uh oh. So instantly she just Jana got dry.

SPEAKER_01 2:00:07

Do you do you honestly believe that men talk themselves out of the honor?

SPEAKER_04 2:00:13

Absolutely. Yeah. You sometimes you talk too much, sometimes you you too sexual too early. Like some women, some women be feeling you. And they and they want to give it up. But sometimes you just jump the gun too early on certain things. Or some men talk about themselves too much. They don't, you know, ask too many questions about her. Because some, you know, some girls give you. I actually just saw this, um, it was on a podcast. I forgot which one it was, but it was just today. Like, there are certain men who, you know, you may be handsome, you may be attractive, but you talk about yourself so much, like it's a turnoff because you don't get to know, you don't get to know her for who she is. And so, you know, she'll give you another chance or two because you handsome or whatever, but then the second and third date, she like, damn, this nigga didn't ask me nothing about me. He ain't asked no follow-up questions. He ain't everything is about him, him, him, him, him.

SPEAKER_03 2:01:09

Nigga this bag.

SPEAKER_04 2:01:10

And she she ain't trying to hear that. As a woman, especially in that early dating stage, uh, a woman wants to know that that you are interested in her and you trying to see where this could possibly go. She don't want to hear about everything that you've done top to bottom all the time. She ain't trying to hear that. That's that's stuff she can learn later. So it could be that too. Yes, you can definitely talk yourself out the box easily.

SPEAKER_01 2:01:35

I think that happens a lot more than women are willing to admit. I mean, you got some women who admit that they talk yourself out of the box, but I think that happens happens a lot more. And I think also it stands for men being nervous. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_09 2:01:48

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 2:01:48

Because when you get nervous around a woman, because it's a lot of dudes who may start talking to a chick that quote unquote out of his league. So now he tries trying to prove that he belongs. I agree. Or start trying to prove that, you know, I'm qualified to talk to you, so I'm gonna lay out all of my accolades. But she'll see it. She'll see it. Because she wasn't even tripping on that. Like she she used to deal with them with dudes' accolades. She she just trying to be with somebody who just survived, or somebody who's just a great conversation. But you done, just like you say, done spunt the conversation on me now. Yeah. Come on, fellas, we gotta do better, man. Um all right. Uh, next one says, How can you tell if your expectations are too much for a man? Dealing with a man, I done got down laid out my boundaries and things of that nature. How can I tell if it's too much for him? Damn, big money?

SPEAKER_04 2:02:54

It's time to go. That's the first thing I can think about. He call you big spender or some shit like that.

SPEAKER_03 2:03:02

I mean, you got it. I'm I'm trying to be like you. Hey.

SPEAKER_04 2:03:08

That's the telltale size.

SPEAKER_01 2:03:11

Grown man telling a woman I'm trying to be like you is crazy. That's telltale size. Yeah. I mean, I think that like once you lay the boundaries out, once you lay the expectations out, then he just like stops trying to meet them. Because like how how men are if we get into a situation and we realize, okay, this shit is too much for me. I'm gonna just stop trying. Now, if we feel like it's in reaching, I mean, uh or it's in reaching, then we're gonna try to meet it. Even if it's a little far. But if we feel like we could potentially, we're gonna try to meet it. But once we accept the fact, look, man, I ain't I ain't no millionaire, I ain't gonna be a millionaire. He's gonna just kind of check out. You understand? And also, I wanna let women know, bro, like yo, your expectations are never too big. They not. Because they are custom-fitted to you and what it is that you want and what it is that you desire. Now, mind you, I'm giving this advice under the guise that you know who you are and you know your worth and you know what it is that you actually want. I feel like most people don't, but I'm giving their advice under that. Ain't no expectation too big. If I want this, these are my boundaries, this is what I require, don't bend on a damn thing. But also, what you gotta accept is that with boundaries has to come patience. Because some people have high expectations and very firm boundaries, but they want somebody right now. And the reality of having high expectations and firm boundaries is that a lot of people are not gonna meet them. So that's gonna test your will as to how important this shit really is to you, or if you're just saying something. Because a lot of women just be saying something. Like, I'll lay these boundaries out, and then if I run into a guy that I really like, or he, you know, he's cute, or whatever the case may be, then I'll start folding on shit. I'll start bending on certain things. And then you end up with somebody who don't meet those boundaries. And it goes good at first because you're infatuated to be with them. But as it progresses and you start to realize, damn, this person don't really fit into who I want them to be. Now it's a kid involved. Now y'all too far down the line. Now your feelings are too deep into it to be able to make a rational decision and and things of that nature. So it's like I would never tell somebody that their expectations are too big. But what I will say is, is that when you have high expectations, you need to have patience. Because those type of people you're looking for, they ain't just coming just regularly. You know what I mean? You know how like on the bus stop, bus comes every 10 minutes. So when you have high expectations, that bus ain't coming every 10 minutes. That bus coming every couple hours. Are you gonna be good with that? Are you gonna be able to stand firm on those boundaries? Are you gonna be willing to not fold when you run into somebody who got that? If you got five non-negotiables, they meet two of them, but they're handsome. Are you gonna be able to stand firm in that? Most women ain't. Let's just put the shit on the table. Most women not.

SPEAKER_04 2:06:26

Another thing, too, when you when you lay those boundaries out too, pay attention to the interests that he has because that will change. Is he gonna turn it up or is he gonna throttle it down? Because you start laying out those interests and I mean those guidelines and your principles, and now instead of saying good morning, you know, I'm saying seven, eight o'clock, he ain't gonna take you back till 12 or late on at night, or he was used to calling you two, three times a day. Now he might, you know, not call you at all. Oh, I got busy today. All of a sudden, because that's how it happens. It literally happens just like that. That's real, right? I mean, immediately you start laying shit out, niggas like, oh, okay, um, well, what am I gonna do? Niggas don't know what to do then. So immediately you'll see those changes in his actions whenever you start laying out those boundaries and and um, you know what I'm saying, how you feel about things. So I would say just really, really pay attention to that, man, because men will show their hand. So is is he gonna give more interest? Is he gonna be more engaged? Is he looking to know who you are further? Or is he gonna throw it down some? That's gonna be the difference right there. That's gonna separate who you need to, you know what I'm saying, spend your time with and who you don't. And even if he start turning up a little bit more, sometimes that's a tail sign. You know he might be doing too much, trying to overcompensate. So you really gotta pay attention. It's a tricky game out here, man, unfortunately. But you just have to really pay attention and ask certain questions, um, really, really decipher the answers and questions that's being asked. Like, take your time. Like, don't definitely don't rush things.

SPEAKER_01 2:08:11

That's the key. Like, it's like how you can kind of put up a defense against somebody love bombing. Let's just put this, let's put shit on the table. Yep. Is sticking to the pace in which you had in your mind. Yep. As far as this, you understand? Like, if you're dating somebody and it's like, okay, I expect this to be serious in about three months. So I expect this to, you know, whatever, whatever. Like, whatever pace you have in your mind, sticking to that pace regardless of what's being done in front of you. But I think that's where a lot of people mess up. Because you get to, you go into it with the three-month or the six-month or whatever the case may be. But just like you said, dude start turning up. He started got them flowers three, four times a week. So now you get to bend in, like, okay, boom, I'm gonna invest a little faster than I was gonna.

SPEAKER_04 2:08:56

That's unrealistic. Come on. I'm telling you now, that's unrealistic. Come on. Please, please be careful. Because there's these these first two, three weeks, be a lot of infatuation. Oh, God. And be careful if that nigga is spending the night at your place multiple times a week, be careful. This nigga homeless sexual. Tyler Tetra, I tell him, be careful. Oh God. Looking up, like, hold on, this nigga was here. Now that's one, it's one thing in y'all doing your own thing, and he may come back to kick it with you because y'all got stuff, you know, y'all late at night, or I don't know. I don't know. I'm just but if a nigga is there at your house five times a week. You know what I'm saying? That's an automatic red flag. Because what are you doing with your day? This nigga got a two breast over there and everything. Two weeks annoying you. Be careful. I'm just saying, ladies. And because a lot of ladies will tolerate that. A lot of ladies would tolerate that. And it's hard to get them out the house.

SPEAKER_03 2:09:56

Niggas got squatters right, nigga.

SPEAKER_08 2:10:02

Nigga Nigga got a male card.

SPEAKER_04 2:10:07

Dog. Niggas will move that. I'm telling hey, men will move like that. Be careful. I'm trying to tell you. This week, too. This nigga done, you done came back from getting some food. This nigga took two of your drawers. Two of your drawers. Nigga done moved your drawers out. You got underwear, shorts.

SPEAKER_03 2:10:31

He tried to put the nigga out here. He done changed the lights to your crib. Yo keto. Hey. Yo. This a cold game. I had.

SPEAKER_04 2:10:42

Nigga, they installed a ring camera. Spied on other niggas. Make a show you don't have nobody else coming over. Be careful, ladies.

SPEAKER_03 2:10:51

Niggas is out of pocket. Because this is a nigga would have done everything we're talking about doing, bro.

SPEAKER_01 2:10:57

Niggas out of pocket, man. Um, I think also too your expectations are always gonna be too much for the wrong person, bro. This is what it is. It don't matter what they is, like your expectations are gonna be too much for the wrong person every single time. But for the person who's supposed to be there, like for every dude that says, Man, that's too much, man. I ain't gonna be doing it. For every dude who say that's too much, it's the dude saying that's it. That's all. Bit. Say no more. I got you. So it's like you gotta give your energy and your effort to those type of dudes. If you gotta convince somebody that your expectations are reasonable, that's the wrong person to be with. And it's a lot of women out there right now, currently, listening to this part, that are in the midst of trying to convince a man that their expectations are not too much or not too big. And that's a telltale sign that that ain't the man for you. Because if I really rock with you, if I really care about About you and you get to land down your boundaries and laying down what it is that's important to you, it's gonna be just as important to me because of how much I value you. And I'm gonna go above and beyond the meetup. But if I don't care about you like that, and you get to land down boundaries and and and and rules and requirements, I'm checked out immediately. I'm on to the next situation. So your expectation is gonna always be too much. Because it's always something that's gonna require less. That's gonna be available. Always. Especially when you a dude who got a little emotion, who got a little traction, you understand? So that's just how I go. Um, but on that note, man, we're gonna go ahead and wrap this thing up, man. We appreciate everybody for tapping in, man. This has been episode seven Trill Academy Podcast, man. If you ain't tapped into the Patreon, make sure you subscribe. That's patreon.com backslash Trail Academy T-R-I-L-L-A-C-A-D-E-M-Y. Make sure that you tapped into it. Um I gotta say, man, everything everything's moving at the pace that it should be moving. And again, every the supporters is is definitely responsible for that. We definitely appreciate y'all boys. Oh, you got any words before we get up out of here?

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SPEAKER_01 2:13:47

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SPEAKER_07 2:15:04

I don't shuttle down and chill down. That's what happens when you fall. And I spin it all with no second house. That's what you do when you love someone. Till you figure out the love you show. Just ain't enough for your baby. And I don't think I'll ever know why. Because then I keep them all up, you baby. Cause one I showed you love's so crazy. But that's not enough for my babies. She need a house and a plane. To let you stay. It don't matter if I give it to you, babe. You still might look the other way. Cost me everything. Still nobody takes. Yeah, it's gonna start everything. I don't do it all, but everything. She depends on me, but everything works every thing. But you never do it. You may never know exactly how to feel. Cause you look too damn good and those chills every time. Niggas get the toes when you walk by. And you had a little more easier. I know exactly how to get what you want. It don't take much. You can't put a nigga on a next one. Cause you're killing me back. Cause you own everything. How do you do everything? Everything's fine, it's just gonna give me night. Just gonna be back. Not a little but everything, depending on me for everything. Every little thing, love. Are you on everything? Like a water, and for me to change, but you'll never do it.