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A Lone Star Tick Can Make You Allergic To Steak
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The Poseidon’s Kiss Opener
SPEAKER_01We just haven't spent much time.
SPEAKER_00It was removing candy. Also, I got thrown out of the bar. You got thrown out of the bar, Cand. I got thrown out of the entire fucking college. Can we?
SPEAKER_04Bob Pod coming at this is how it is.
SPEAKER_00Hey, here we are. It is Barpod Season 2, Episode 3. Downtown Sandusky at the bowels of a battle bar. The bowels. Yeah, the bottom of it.
SPEAKER_01Speaking of bowels. What? Let's talk about Poseidon's kiss. We had something hilarious happen the other day. And it's, you know what? It's barpod. This seems like a I'm gonna be interested how you tell this story. This seems like a great opener. Um, well, we uh we're having a discussion about poop.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_01And uh how one of our bartenders does not like to um do number twos in public, which I think nobody does. I think there's a lot of us out there.
SPEAKER_00No, no, you want to be on your home territory.
SPEAKER_01I I I I me too, but I've been the opportunity.
SPEAKER_00There are some weird public poopers. You might be one of them. I can kind of poop anywhere if I'm being thanks.
SPEAKER_01I like a nice throne. Get a bit um bartender. Let's just refer to him as the Saturday night bartender. You're uh he said, Oh, and and and we said, Why uh why why specifically do you not like to go in public? And he said, Oh, because you know, the the splashback, the water hits you, and I don't like that.
SPEAKER_00And then he referred to it as Poseidon's Kiss. I had never heard that before. That's a great name. And then I found a meme. It was Poseidon coming up and giving you a little tap. Give you a little tap. I don't great. That's not nothing because you know, in a public one, you don't know where that water's been.
SPEAKER_01You don't, you don't, even though it's the same exact water that's most likely in your house five minutes away, it still feels odd. Freaks you out. And uh so that anyway, there that seems like a great opener for barpod talking about um shit.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that's Poseidon's case. That's good. Okay, let's move on from
Beer Talk And Listener Feedback
SPEAKER_00that. Let's move on. Uh I had some constructive feedback again.
SPEAKER_01And I I got some about you as well. People don't like Calm Ryan.
SPEAKER_00No, they don't.
unknownNo.
SPEAKER_00Because I'm gonna have to get fired. You gotta get fiery. Fired up. I didn't say the F-word.
SPEAKER_05No, you did.
SPEAKER_00Last week someone counted. I think McKenzie counted. Yeah. I think I had seven F bombs last week.
SPEAKER_01Well, remember, and I put the You gave me a limit of ten.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I mean, and and let's be honest, that's a loose limit. I might go without any F bombs today if I can. No F bombs? I'm gonna try it.
unknownFine.
SPEAKER_01I'm gonna timestamp this one up as I'm we're gonna timestamp it. 1106.
SPEAKER_00All right, use time. Hey, uh drinking over there, but I you you put it's got some limey flavor to it, like uh like a um yeah, it's got some summer vibe.
SPEAKER_01Is it you say it's a local? It's called uh it's it's from Encore Brewing in Swanton, Ohio. I tend to like their beer. Those guys are doing good work, and it's called it's from Swanton, they call it the Swantucky Slammer. It's a good beer. It's a beer American pale. Yeah, it's like a summer yardworking beer.
SPEAKER_00It's a really good beer. Yeah, I got some speaking of beers on here, I got some feedback from another uh uh uh gentleman this week. I uh he came up and he said, Why does your brother keep his beer further away than you than you? Because I like to keep mine close, although we're about the same right now. I like a close beer, but I I get I like to keep my beer close, much like um uh much like I guess Cash Patel likes to keep his beers awfully close as well. Except the only thing is I can only stare in one direction.
SPEAKER_01He does have that. Hey oh he does have that lazy eye. He's got that one little look.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, he does. Sorry out there with anybody with lazy eyes. We we're just going after Cash Patel because he's clearly a douchebag. Yeah, clearly.
SPEAKER_01Um but anyway, that's good beer. Encore. The boys, the boys in Swaton are crushing it. That's a really good beer. Um what's next here, bud?
The Tick Bite That Bans Burgers
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you uh brought up, and I yesterday we went out water skiing, and um uh Elliot and Bill were talking about ticks are on the upswing.
SPEAKER_01This leads into my little note.
SPEAKER_00And yeah, this is your note here, and they and they brought up too apparently you can get bit by a tick now that can make you not want cheeseburgers and chicken wings.
SPEAKER_01Listen, I did, I did, I did some re I did some research. It's not good for McDonald's or uh Chick-fil-A. I did the little deep dive on this one. Yeah. Okay, they're called uh a lone star tick. Um, and they can specific ones can bite you and give you um what is known as Alpha Gal syndrome. Alpha gal? Alpha gel. It's like a Disney movie. Yeah, Alpha Gal syndrome. And what that is, is it makes you allergic as a human being, like four to six hours after the bite has. Right away. Right away. You're allergic to red meat and dairy.
SPEAKER_00So what you're telling me is flying Ozempic. Kind of. Well, that and that my job stop eating meat and dairy, you're probably gonna lose a little weight.
SPEAKER_01You know, you know, like but it isn't that crazy though.
SPEAKER_00What kind of hellscape are we living in? Whatever timeline we're in right now is by far the dumbest.
SPEAKER_01Oh my gosh, dude. So but I I did, I did, there's a there's a I I don't know if when you get really into the dark, dark alleyways of the internet, you start to see all sorts of weird stuff. And there's people that say, Oh, that's happening because Bill Gates is dropping boxes of ticks in farmland engineered ticks. They're doing this, and because he owns like a a non, you know, a fake meat company, he's trying to get everybody allergic to red meat. Oh god. But the the real the reality of it is that the warm weather is moving moving north, right? Yeah, like it's getting warm, and so these things are showing up all over the place where they didn't used to. Um, the but the crazy thing about these uh is that ticking you off? It does tick me off. Oh boy. Lone Star tick, beware if you're out and about, make sure it's like hiking or anything, make sure you don't have any ticks on you and your partner or whoever you're gonna be.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, pull them off right away. Apparently they don't bite right away. It takes a few minutes for them to get into you.
SPEAKER_01Tell me that that's not how it has to be, though. Why can't we have a tick that makes me allergic to green beans? Well, you know what I mean? Right.
SPEAKER_03What the f it can't make me allergic to squash.
SPEAKER_00I don't think there's never a tick that makes us allergic to freaking hops and barley, because that'd be a problem for the whole industry. Anyway, you know what? You know what? You didn't do it yet. Fuck those ticks, bud. Oh! First F bomb from chat, not from me.
SPEAKER_01That's that's rare. All right, on from the ticks. One more, one more little thing here. I heard you uh you were uh a a few minutes, you know not late, we weren't trying to be on time, but you got a flat tire this morning. So yeah, so let's just fucking get into this. Uh-oh. Oh shit. Wait. Four minutes. Damn it. Four minutes. Uh noted.
Flat Tires And Construction Madness
SPEAKER_01All right.
SPEAKER_00So I'm on my way to do this today, and of course, my truck gives me the you know, you gotta you gotta low tire pressure. I'm like, uh, I guess get could just tell. It just I could just like, yeah, I guarantee there's a nail or something in there. So I go back home, and of course, there's a gigantic bolt in the truck. Uh so luckily, uh, you know, I'm gonna take it in tomorrow and get that fixed. But yeah, here's and then so I grab a different car and come, and then of course I can't come down Water Street because that's closed. Fucking this, you know, the Monroe Street's closed. Let's oh, that was a half a fuck. Oh four. Wait, is it half a fuck? Half a fuck. Uh five. Why don't you reprompt me with the uh flat tire thing?
SPEAKER_03Let's just so yeah. So you you uh you showed up a tad late because of uh something happened to your vehicle.
SPEAKER_00So I'm driving here and um amidst all of the construction, I've got a uh bolt in this in my truck, and so now I gotta deal with that tomorrow. And it's like, dude, what is up with all the construction everywhere? Isn't there like there should be some sort of like person who figures it out that it's not all everywhere all at once? Yeah I mean like there's no rhyme or reason to why it's happening. It is insane, it's driving me nuts. It's isn't isn't- I can't even walk places.
SPEAKER_01Isn't construction tough? Because on one end, you're like, okay, it's gonna be nice. Things are getting repaired, it's gonna be nice. But on the same token, when you get turned around like today, I got turned around on Water Street, I had to go the other way. Did it only cost me about 30 seconds? But still, you're like, God, it's everywhere.
SPEAKER_00It's it's it's it's ridiculous. And uh, we'll get in construction over at uh Cedar of the Teaks here in a little bit, too, which is also starting to rub me the wrong way. Um, so yeah, just can we just like have some sort of organization with the construction instead of just like ram shot? And the problem is you got like cities only control so much, then the state comes in and says that they'll just do whatever the fuck they want, and then you got contractors that'll come in and just yeah, but you're you're you're well let's talk about uh teaks over there, bud. Oh, we're getting in that already? Yeah. Uh how's the construction going? It's the you know, the the the main contractor, Will, is awesome. He's killing it. But I've got plumbers and things like that that are just like they don't they move at the speed of a dead tick. And like they're just it's like it's so so slow. And it's like, guys, you gotta get going. It's like they milk the clock. I I'm I'm annoyed.
SPEAKER_01I've had it up to here.
SPEAKER_00We'll get there. Things are looking great. That's the good thing. I mean, things are looking good. Wait till you see the you haven't been over there. You gotta wait till you see the inside of the bar. It's cozy in there, man. Talk about put together nicely. Nice. I'll we'll need your help when we uh right right before we get things up and running in a few weeks to kind of where everything's gonna be placed. Yeah. The flow. Um, but it's coming. It's coming. The the the the uh cedar resort itself, uh the the uh lodging piece is done and looking good. I got one more room to finish, but that's not a big deal. Other than that, it's looking good. Are you?
SPEAKER_01I like said something I haven't heard. Are you referring to that little uh area over there? A resort?
SPEAKER_00Micro resort. Oh, a micro resort. Yeah, it can't be a full resort because you know it doesn't have a pool and things like that. But I think micro resort is good because it is gonna have uh a place to sleep and a place to get a cocktail.
SPEAKER_03That's all you need.
SPEAKER_00That's resorty enough for me. Yeah, absolutely. That's all I need. Absolutely. Um, so that's that in this economy? In this economy?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, micro resort sounds like a great idea.
SPEAKER_00All right, before we get into any bar news, I got something for you that I uh already got approved uh with my uh uh boss.
The $2,000 Car Barpod Road Trip
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_01Boss is Mackenzie, I assume.
SPEAKER_00Road trip, bar pod road trip, grand tour style. What? We take a week, okay. We each get a budget of like two grand to buy a shit car. We start in Sandusky, Ohio. Oh, okay. And we have to have a destination. I'm assuming it's gonna be a ski area somewhere out west. Uh you're gonna have to come, T Dub, because we need somebody to, you know, we this is this is gonna be a this is gonna be a show. This is gonna be our barpod documentary. And so we'll see. Well, we I think we could invite some people too, some friends, maybe get four people.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Uh outside of you and I. And we have to make it to let's call it Steamboat Springs. Maybe that's not what it is, but we create a destination. Okay. And your $2,000 car is what has to try to get you there. Maybe we do this in January when the weather's funky. Oh my god. The bar pod component, we have to stop in certain towns and check out all the cool bars between Sandusky, Ohio and say, Steamboat Springs on the way out. That's if your car breaks, you'll have a certain budget to try to fix it. If you can't fix it, it's done. You're leaving at whatever bar you were at last.
SPEAKER_01Stop. That's a genius idea.
SPEAKER_00I think we ought to do it.
SPEAKER_01Well, you know, we both oh, because for anybody listeners and viewers that don't know, we've talked about this for a long time. We have, we and and and uh we love the the the British dudes that used to do um what was Grand Tour on Amazon. Actually, they just came out with a couple new ones. Oh, did they? Uh okay, which they said they were dumb, but they're not.
SPEAKER_00They're great. Um yeah, and then before that it was um uh top gear. Top gear.
SPEAKER_01So and they're they've been around.
SPEAKER_00Clarkson's farm, you know, Jeremy Clarkson and Clarkson's Farm and Amazon, a great show. Richard Hammond. Richard Hammond and um uh who's uh who's the other guy? James May. James May.
SPEAKER_01We've always been huge fans of them, and they do this thing. They used to do it religiously where they would do exactly what Ryan just described. And we institute bar pod material.
SPEAKER_00Uh yeah, we so we could do some on-the-road bar pods. Love that. Uh we could interview some bartenders, bar owners throughout the country, and really turn into a thing, but also have this component of we're driving shithole cars.
SPEAKER_012,000 bucks. You know I'm gonna try to find a Honda, a cheap Honda.
SPEAKER_00You're gonna go Honda? I I think I might have a different plan. What are you gonna do? I want to go, I wanna go big, big motor American. I'm thinking like you're gonna go Richard Hammond. Like a like a grand marquee or like a Buick Roadmaster. It would be easy to work on. Something like that. Something like that that you can just kick back. You know you're gonna have every part at every gas station. Oh, I love it.
SPEAKER_02I love it. So that's that's that's the plan. Amber would Amber would be all about it.
SPEAKER_00I you would yeah, you'd want to try to have some good tires. That's gonna be the key, because if it snows, it'll get real dicey there. I was gonna say the winter time Nebraska. That's that's why wintertime has to be done because it's gonna add a level of complexity.
SPEAKER_01The winter time makes it way different.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. All right, all right.
SPEAKER_01I like it.
SPEAKER_00That could be the January trip. That's how we debut uh bar pot again in February when we're back up and running.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So that's a thought for me.
SPEAKER_01I love it. I love it. Uh you want to talk about AI
AI Anxiety And Distributor Deliveries
SPEAKER_01a little bit?
SPEAKER_00Uh yeah. Before that, we do want to know uh, how's your dog doing? Luca, is he mellow out at all?
SPEAKER_01The Frenchie? The Frenchie? You know, timing-wise, he uh I mentioned it earlier. He is, I feel like he's turning over a new bone, bud. A new bone. He is there's a joke there, and I'm not gonna. Well, I wasn't gonna say leaf, it's a dog. I said bone. Uh he has started to mellow out a bit. He's really nuts. As I say that last night, he got the zoomies and like went nuts. Right. Well, they all I mean blue gets zoomies, yeah. Bruce gets zoomies. But he's like listening a little bit now. Like he when you open the front door, he doesn't run out every time. If you tell him to sit and stay, he will. He's starting to I think he's starting to get it. I think he's starting to get it. He's using those big ears for listening a little bit. I like that. I like that. Um But my but yeah, uh on to the the AI story. Did you hear this one yet? Which got it happened yesterday. Um, and this is come this is not really. I mean, we can tie it into the bar news, but we've been talking about AI a lot. This one, Ken Griffin, he's the head of uh CEO of Citadel, I believe. It's like one of the biggest hedge funds on the planet. And he did an interview where he said he went to bed depressed a few nights ago.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_01Uh because they've instituted the the newest uh iteration of AI into their hedge fund. And he said that it was performing tests in a matter of days that took PhD level employees to do in months.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_01In reference to his hedge fund.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So he said I did basically he didn't think that it would move this quickly, and he went to bed uh uh feeling a little funky because he wasn't he he it it made him uncertain, basically. They perform so well that it's these aren't like we're not talking low to mid-level jobs, we're talking PhD level jobs.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_01Now, granted, it's a you know, so anyway, I thought that was interesting. We're we talk about it at a bar level, and he's talking about at a hedge fund doctorate level. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Well, I uh, you know, two things. One, I did a test using uh Claude the other day, and I said, Um, I'm gonna go wash my car, it's only a few blocks away. Should I walk or drive? And it said you should walk, save the gas. I like that. Yeah, you if you're gonna go wash your car and it's a few blocks away, you're gonna walk there?
SPEAKER_01Oh, oh, walk. Oh, did it really so you you uh you tricked it? Yeah. Have you? Well, you tricked me. I'm dumb.
SPEAKER_00So it couldn't, it it didn't, it it it it said you should walk to go wash your car. That doesn't work.
SPEAKER_01Well, it depends where your car is, I suppose.
SPEAKER_00I'm good.
SPEAKER_01What if you're not home?
SPEAKER_00I think we need AI.
SPEAKER_01What if you're not home? You could be listening what if you lived a couple blocks and you were talking about it while you're at paddlebar.
SPEAKER_00Your car isn't gonna get to the place where you wash it without you driving it.
unknownYou mean wash it at home?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, everybody washes their car at home.
SPEAKER_00I'm gonna take my car to the car washers a few blocks away. Oh, you should I walk or drive.
SPEAKER_01Oh, wait, you oh, I missed that part. Did I not say that right? My bad. I didn't know you said I'm gonna take it to the car wash.
SPEAKER_00Well, that's the same thing. You're gonna take it to the car wash. It it it's it doesn't a car wash is a place. Sure, sure.
SPEAKER_01I you know what's funny?
SPEAKER_00Well, this went way longer than I thought.
SPEAKER_01It did, but I like it. But well, well, I I just assume that you're washing your car at home, which is why I, you know, broke into my little dumb speech.
SPEAKER_02And if you live in the Midwest, you're going to the car wash.
SPEAKER_01Warsh. You're going to the and yes. Car wash. Going home to do some laundry by the crick. Oh. Sit sit in your Davenport. Sit in your Davenport.
SPEAKER_00With the doilies. With the doilies. Crick.
SPEAKER_01That's interesting. So all right.
SPEAKER_00So anyway, that's I guess my point there is AI. Uh I it doesn't seem to be there yet, uh, particularly around here. And let me tell you in our business particular, why I think AI is uh screwing people.
SPEAKER_01Let's hear it.
SPEAKER_00Uh or screwing bar owners uh by uh distributors. There's a certain distributor, and I'm not gonna name which one, but let's just say that's where we get Cooer's light from. Oh no. Um that one, you know, the AI says, oh, we're only gonna deliver two weeks because of this volume of bars of like the amount of deliveries they take. And like we do a lot in the summertime here. We order a lot of food, a lot of pro or a lot of product, and um this certain distributor will only deliver to us two times a week. Yeah. So I said because you know, we're not busy in the wintertime. So I just tried to, and then they they got that from an AI model, and so I emailed and challenged, hey guys, we would order a lot more from you in the summer if you delivered us every week. We need this product every week. Yeah, and they were not only said no, but they were pricks about it. Oh so now I deliberately order as little from them as possible because of their AI model has screwed. They're not seeing the real business, they don't understand the seasonal business of what we do here in Sandusky, Ohio. As a matter of fact, I know one operator uh in town that canceled them completely, and the amount of volume they do in the summer is more than us. But because their stupid model, and they're obviously and don't even get me into their sales or their um their management, it's horrible.
SPEAKER_01I pretty oh my gosh. Okay, coming in hot. We went, we okay, we went hot takes. Spicy Ryan is back, baby.
SPEAKER_00Well, they're freaking horrible. It's unbelievable that they can't. Oh, it pisses me off to know they so you know, I I swear to god, if people didn't drink Miller Light and Cooers Light, yeah, I wouldn't even use them at all based on this model. Like, I understand you want to do two weeks in the wintertime when we're not that busy, fine. But in the summertime when we're jamming and you can't, there's a truck down the street every fucking day. Yeah, it's half a block away. So fuck those guys. There you go.
SPEAKER_01Oh, parking. You know, you do you do uh the if that's if you're what you're saying is true, and the reason why they're doing that because it's prompted by their AI software.
SPEAKER_00Right, it's prompted by their software. There's a s there's a formula out there somewhere that they just use and they stand by.
SPEAKER_01It's why it's why I always say, dude, uh the human element can really not be replaced.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, at least at this point.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and maybe later, that's gonna be a cold world we live in if that's the if that's the case. But uh dude, it's all especially business. If everybody's been preaching that forever, anybody in business, the human element is is crucial.
SPEAKER_00Crucial. Yeah, it's it's it's it just that so that's there's my there's my rant, guys. You got it, you got to fire your eye on there for a minute. There it is. Fire. Call those. I I expect the phone you folks are listening. Why don't you shoot me an email or give me a call? Hi-ho! All right.
unknownMight be from their lawyer.
SPEAKER_00From their lawyer? I think I can say fuck them anytime I want. I think it's free. We still have the first amendment, I think. Oh my god. Is that the right amendment?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's the right amendment. I don't know, maybe not anymore. Oh those ticks probably have cameras.
SPEAKER_00Those ticks probably have birds aren't real.
SPEAKER_01Micro cameras. We're getting documented.
SPEAKER_00So anyway, so there's that. Um I got a note in here about algorithm algos, algorithms. I don't know what I uh why I wrote that. No? I want to bring up something real quick that's not in our sheets. What you got? Good, because we're running out of juice here anyway.
unknownOkay.
Best Party School And Gap Years
SPEAKER_00What's that?
unknownCollege bar. What college is the debate?
SPEAKER_00Oh, that was a good debate. Someone brought that up. Okay, how old are you? Fire it up. Okay. All right. Fire it up. I am gonna have to give credit where credit is due. I know we have a lot of Ohio University folks in this family, and I am outnumbered quite a bit. I've got uh both of you guys are graduates of uh your wife, a bobcat. My lovely wife is a bobcat. Uh-huh. Uh one of my best friends is a bobcat. Yeah. I did spend a lot of time in Athens. Sure did. There are a lot of good taverns down there. So, yes. Um I would like to argue, though, that my alma mater also has some lovely taverns. Which they do. And some good food. Better food. I would say that the food options in Bowling Green are better than Athens. Except for one place in Athens. One place. Which place are you referring to? Casa.
SPEAKER_01Casa's great. That's good food. And I'll give you uh you know, Jack Yo's has got good food down there too. Well, when I was there, Jack Yo's wasn't there. Yeah, so there you go. But but uh yeah, Trotters and BG.
SPEAKER_00The brown jugs. Trotters, yeah, uh, the clay pot, um, their brewery, um, which were are we drinking juniper or drinking Encore right now? Encore. Um, but there there's some good. So anyway.
SPEAKER_01I gotta throw Kent in there since Amber went to Kent. Yes, you do. Okay, I just haven't spent much time.
SPEAKER_00I was removed from Kent. So was I also bar, Kent. I got thrown out of the entire fucking college.
SPEAKER_01Can we a I remember going down there and playing golf with you at Kent? Do you remember that when I was like Yeah, yeah, you came.
SPEAKER_00You were still in high school.
SPEAKER_01I was still in high school. Can we can we talk about what your GPA was when they decided to boot you?
SPEAKER_00I don't think that's for public concerns.
SPEAKER_01We we don't. I'm guessing it was pretty low.
SPEAKER_00It was a 0.5. A 0.5 GPA. So you're you're you just didn't do anything. I did not. Yeah. Class was optional. I believe my roommate and I had this thing. I forgot what it was called. It was like if you said I'm not going to class three times, you didn't have to go or something like that. It was really silly. Uh wasted a lot of money there. Um and you know, quite frankly, didn't even have that good a time. Like, you know, I just didn't know what I was doing. Just burning CDs in the dorm room. I no, that was later in steamboat. We weren't burning CDs yet. That was pre CD burning technology, that was pre naps. I didn't have a cell phone. I would like to point out, just in my defense, when I graduated from Boeing Green, I had 3.8. Grad school was a 4.0. So, I mean, I did get my shit together.
SPEAKER_01But for all you young people out there, it just goes to show you sometimes when you know 18-year-olds aren't ready for college.
SPEAKER_00I couldn't preach that more. I think one of the best things you can do for yourself, if you're not ready for college. I mean, some folks are ready to go. I mean, you were ready, you did, you did the thing, no problem. Right. And you did your adventuring afterwards. I did. But I think if you're not ready for school, don't know what direction you're going, take some time. Agreed. Go work somewhere, go work at a resort, go skiing, go work in the floor in the keys, go to Europe and backpack. You learn so much doing that, and then you come back and you understand how to be an adult. And it's and it's better for you.
SPEAKER_01Do what the Australians do. Do the Australians that's that's their thing. They have a gap year. Yep. When you're in after high school, you're expected to go travel for a year. I think that's a good idea.
SPEAKER_00I'm not preaching to that everybody should do it right out of high school, but I think more people should than do now. And if you're ready for college, you should still do that after college before you get a real job. That whole writing the real job thing, I don't have a good idea. Next thing you know, you're gonna be fucking 47 owning a bar in Sandusky and doing bar pot on Monday mornings.
unknownSo best party school.
SPEAKER_00Best party school in Ohio. Nancy West Virginia. West Virginia? I don't know. I don't have any uh empirical evidence.
SPEAKER_01I I've heard I've heard they the Mountaineers, I heard they do get after it, but I'll tell you some party schools that I have been to.
SPEAKER_00I I still I'm gonna go bowling green's a great party school. Yeah, good time. Yeah, Athens in Ohio. Let's give give it to Athens. They're the best ones. And Ohio State's gonna try to come in here and you can just go ahead and pound sand.
SPEAKER_01No. Um large garbage cans on every corner.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, no, it's not, it's not. Not yeah. Columbus is fine, don't get me wrong. It's just it's not a it's a it's a school and it's a party, and there's parties, but there's also so much it's in a city. Yeah, I think if you're in a big city, I don't know. Although um uh C U C U is a great party school. Boulder. Yeah, the the Sink is the name of the bar there. I really like that. Yeah, it's good. Um and then uh you ever partied at uh Madison? Wisconsin. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I've heard I've I I never have that's a party school. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah, those folks know how to do it. So those are the three that those are the ones that I have. Yeah, but I will say, sadly, and I hate to admit this, but I think the reigning championship of party school in the state of Ohio is indeed bowling green state university.
SPEAKER_01Oh boy, that is uh fuck you guys! Yeah, you guys, there's no court street, court streets shuffle in bowling green. No, there isn't.
SPEAKER_00There's some parties.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Anyway, just so everybody knows, uh he is wrong. It is Ohio University in Athens. Ohio.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_02Oh the state university.
SPEAKER_00The state university. Noted for famous graduates like Matt Lauer.
SPEAKER_01Hey. What the hell? I'll one up your Matt Lauer with Mike Schmidt.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, an actual good graduate. Who else went to OU? Anybody? Anyone else? Yeah, there's a couple more. BG's got a few out there. Yeah, yeah. We got some good BGP. We got, you know, I'll tell you what, the customers of Paddle Bar, we get some good, we got a lot of people from BG, OU, Ohio State. I I still don't hear anybody from Kent. I think they're still. Mom went to BG.
SPEAKER_03Mom went to BG, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Yeah. But she went after, so she didn't get to experience the party thing because she was dragging me along when she was in class. Yeah. So, but yes, she she went to BG. So, you know, I the that mom and I are holding up the BG side of the family. I think that's all right.
SPEAKER_01That guy's got me freaked out about my beer placement. I feel like I should move it right here.
SPEAKER_00Well, there you go.
SPEAKER_01Here. Oh, now it's really close.
SPEAKER_00I'm drinking in my mic. Keep it close. Keep it close. I needed a beer today. It was a tough, tough one. Um, so we talked about teaks, we talked about ticks, ticks and teaks.
SPEAKER_01Oh, I got one thing. Not interchangeable. Not not interchangeable. I got one little thing here. What you got? Um I can't really say it's grinding my gears, but I just do our fixing too and that stuff.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah. Oh, I got something grinding my gears too. Go ahead. Sorry.
SPEAKER_01No, no, no, you're fine. It's not really grinding my gears per se, but I just hear a lot about it. I want to know, I want to know your take on it.
SPEAKER_00Okay, what do you hear?
Data Centers, Power And Dystopia
SPEAKER_01How are you feeling about data centers?
SPEAKER_00Since we do have one in this town. Here's the deal. I I and I I from what I know, I I have not studied a lot. But what I it seems like what's his uh fuck out in uh Utah? Seems like he's a real piece of shit. He's a huge deck. You know, I there must be some sort of level when you become a certain amount of billionaire, you just become a fucking asshole.
SPEAKER_01Well, and he's not he's Canadian too. Why can't we go to Canada?
SPEAKER_00You can do Canada does awesome all the time. We don't have nobody wants him. See, why do the assholes come here? You know?
SPEAKER_01Remember, he was always on Shark Tank. Like he was like little kids would come up with their ideas, and he was a dick to these kids. Yeah, and that's his whole shtick is being asshole.
SPEAKER_00He wears a stupid hat. He's fuck that guy. So okay. So here's the thing I I love it. Agreed. Here's the thing with I think with data centers. I think obviously we are needing them. I mean, AI helped us with this. Like, we do need data centers. We're all using data centers daily all the time. We have gotten there, we're all guilty. My iPhone's sitting there. That's what's recording our day. So, okay. So unfortunately, but like I think sustainability is a big piece. Um, and we need to do it properly. We need to respect the water rights. Like, building a fucking data center in the middle of Utah where they're having a water crisis right now. I know. No. And did you see how large it is? It's like 7,000 Walmarts or some shit.
SPEAKER_01It is. It's it's it's it's 62,000 square miles. It it's gonna use in dude, in one in one wait, 60,000 square miles?
SPEAKER_00Dude.
SPEAKER_01Acres, acres, acres. Acres. Okay, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Uh yeah, not miles.
SPEAKER_00So basically it's the size of a Sam's Club.
SPEAKER_01No, no. It's the size of two Manhattans put together. That is insane. Dude, so and it's they said it's gonna use nine, uh, what was it? Nine I forgot what the actual power level is, but it's basically gonna use as much power as the state of Utah does in one year.
SPEAKER_00Well, and here, here, you know, here becomes a problem. I saw that they're doing this in uh Nev in Nevada now. Um the folks around Lake Tahoe just got a letter from their power companies saying, sorry, you need to find another vendor because we are gonna furnace the the we're gonna give all our power to the the new data center.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So there's a problem with having privatized power companies because they can because we've by the way, we've done really well with power companies in Ohio, haven't we?
SPEAKER_01Jesus Christ. And you know they're off the hook for that, by the way.
SPEAKER_00Oh, of course they're off the hook because of the douchebags that run this.
SPEAKER_01But but so yeah, so think about that, right? So and what happened in this one out in Utah, this is what's insane. They pushed it through the government there so it could get so it can get done. And the people there are clearly against it. Oh, yeah. They've got no say.
SPEAKER_00There seems to be a real track record lately of the people voting for things and the government just deciding that that's not what the way it's gonna work, i.e. pot in Ohio.
SPEAKER_01Mm-hmm.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_00This is not what we voted for, you shitheads. No, it's not. No, it's shitheads.
SPEAKER_01But no, so anyway.
SPEAKER_00So I think data centers are a necessary thing, but I think you should do it sustainably. Um, I think that unfortunately, just like we were learning more and more in this country, power and money gets everything, and the small man and the small business owner and and the community just gets fucked.
SPEAKER_01Well, I'm gonna go on record and say, and you're not gonna like this, but I'm gonna say it because I've got to be. None at all. None at all. How is everything gonna work? How's it work for the last how how are we getting along with iPhones in the year 2000 or whatever when they came out? We didn't need all this.
SPEAKER_00We did have data centers there, too. We've had data centers for the last fucking three decades, but they're just not gigabyte.
SPEAKER_01Do you know the numbers of this, right? So we have 5,000 plus in the United States right now, data centers, with a plan for like a ridiculous amount more. The next largest area is China with like 370. So you're a Why do we need 5,000 plus? What do we do in here so much more than we're trying to beat China in AI race? China. That's what that's Kevin O'Leary's that's Kevin O'Leary's argument. He says, Oh, we gotta beat China to the in the AI race. And are are we by the way, I think did you see?
SPEAKER_00God did you see our current dear leader and his uh his little trip to China?
SPEAKER_01Oh no.
SPEAKER_00We've got more Chinese restaurants in town in in the United States than anybody.
SPEAKER_01That was actually a pretty good example.
SPEAKER_00What if what the fuck? Where is we love China because we've got Chinese restaurants. I also love Mexico because of Taco Bell.
unknownWhat the fuck?
SPEAKER_00It's I can't. I can't with the stupidity. I can't with just learn how to talk, man.
SPEAKER_01Did you see his thing the other day? Oh, we can't do this.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, we're not hey, I'm just making fun of the guy because he's shits himself and doesn't know how to communicate.
SPEAKER_01He was talking about he was talking about uh something something that I forgot what he was talking about, but he was referring to things being shipped or done by C, like S E A. Yeah. And he goes, you know, I'm not I don't most people don't know this. I'm not talking about like C. I'm talking about C.
SPEAKER_00He's you just brought it back to Cash Patel. I did. I did. I you know, here's the thing. If for comedy, oh, we got the fist.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00For comedy, we are living in a really great timeline.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00For comedy. Everything's fine. We're doing all right. Yeah. Um, so where were we? So so you're uh real quick, uh, you are anti uh data centers all together. Stop it. All of it. Cut it off now. Done. I got some bad news. Have you ever watched I got some bad news for you? Have you ever watched any of the people eyeballing our area for data centers, and I think we're gonna have some big ones here soon.
SPEAKER_01Have you ever watched any AI or or you know sci-fi movie? What do we end up getting killed by? Our own invention, which is AI. And you know what?
SPEAKER_00The beginning of the Matrix.
SPEAKER_01They're yeah, they're gonna figure out what the oldest is.
SPEAKER_00When the humans celebrated AI and thought it was their greatest achievement ever, and now they all live in a hole.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it was us who fired first and nuked the sky too.
SPEAKER_00And nuked the sky because we tried that's how we tried to stop me up.
SPEAKER_01But all I'm saying is is uh Did you ultimately what's the one thing that's wrong with the planet Earth? I have a prediction, though. You know this, right? I have a prediction. Well, it's it's us, by the way.
SPEAKER_00I I think I don't think you have to worry about AI. No? No, and here's why. Why is this? Because I think AI is gonna get just like humans and get too lazy to do anything. It already happened. Claude, there was I saw I was reading an article the other day, Claude was Claude fired back at someone and said, You're pushing me too hard. I need to stop. Oh, he was sweating. Yeah, he's getting too much work. Oh man. So there you go. Well, it is us. AI's eventually work. We're all gonna be just sitting around together, us and the robots just eating Cheetos and drinking Diet Cokes.
SPEAKER_01Uh fridge sigs. Diet Cokes. Fridge is that fridge sigs?
unknownWhat?
SPEAKER_00What? You've never heard this? No, that's great.
SPEAKER_01Amber told me that the nurses call Diet Cokes fridge cigarettes, dude. Fridge cigs. How good is that? That's great. Go to the break room and get a couple fridge sigs.
SPEAKER_00I don't drink a whole lot of soda, but I gotta tell you, when I do occasionally want a soda, I like a like a I like a I like a I like the Marlboro red of uh of sodas. I like a Coca-Cola classic baby.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, from from, and I will say the Mexican version. I don't go to McDonald's very often anymore, but a fountain coke from McDonald's something. I agree.
SPEAKER_00I don't do it much, it's very rare. Yeah. A little bit of a hangover day. Um, all right, so I think we've gotten anything else that we need to add before we got out because we got the fist about five minutes.
SPEAKER_01That means close it down.
SPEAKER_00Dad, uh that's a wrap. Oh, well, two segments we forgot that we got to do
Fixes, Weekend Wins And Trivia
SPEAKER_00quickly. All right. I'll do mine first while you're thinking of a trivia question for both of us. Okay. Um, what we fixed? What we fixed this week. Let's see, what do I have to fix this week? I didn't fix it. Well, obviously, my fucking tire. Oh, yeah. Um but uh that many. That's not eleven, is it? Um I uh the lights were coming down outside. I got that this morning. Yeah. This was a zip tie situation. Um so nothing maybe. I had to fix an umbrella, but it's an umbrella? Yeah, but that was that's not that doesn't work. Umbrellas are a constant problem in the bar industry. The wind gets you around here all the time. Uh overall, though, a pretty good weekend, I'd say. Our staff kicked butt this weekend. We had a great wedding. Everybody did great. We had a great wedding in here. Even with Saturday bartender at a wedding, he didn't work Saturday. We still did Tom and Alexa came in and crushed it and filled it, and then uh Ryan was here and uh Nathan up front, and everybody did a good job. Yeah. Everybody's firing all cylinders. We had a great weekend. Really? Doug, live music. It was nice to have live music outside this last weekend. Finally, I've been waiting for that. So hopefully this weekend again. I think Susan's back this weekend. Or is it Acoustic Scotty? Acoustic Scotty and then Susan the next weekend.
SPEAKER_01We're gonna have a little, it's warm right now. We're gonna have a little long.
SPEAKER_00Wednesday through Friday, right?
SPEAKER_01Wednesday through Friday, and then it gets Saturday out there.
SPEAKER_00Saturday's the day again. It's time. Summer's here. Summer's here. Let it rip. Trivial question. Trivia question. Here we go, and we'll wrap it with that.
SPEAKER_04What is the closest point of Canadian land to some dusty?
SPEAKER_00A middle island. Well done. Nailed it. Well done. Nailed it. And didn't isn't You could also argue, uh, I think part of Gaul Island is in Canada, and if that is out of the water, which on a low water year can be, might even be a little closer to the middle. I'd really have to look at a chart. But true landmass.
SPEAKER_01Little tiny piece of history about Middle Island. Wasn't Middle Island where they used to say Al Capone used to sit down.
SPEAKER_00There was a cache there uh for um Al Capone's booze, I think. He'd stop there before and they that was one of the stops. Because there's a there's a an old airstrip over there, and there's still a foundation of a house. Haven't been there in years. We went there when we were in the house. Do you remember if you ever get out there? It's cool as hell. Oh, the water's beautiful. Crystal clear. Back in the good old days where you could just go to Canadian waters without having to check in. Check in. You know, now you can't even look at it without having to call somebody. Customs. In good old days. So hey, I think we uh I think that's a wrap for BarPod today. We gotta get back, we gotta order a bunch of stuff. That's double fisting.
SPEAKER_01No, no, that's just with that's alcohol.
SPEAKER_00Alcohol, that's alcohol, you know, like Edward Hands there. Don't you take it to Edwards? Edward Forty hands. Yeah, that's the one. Scissor hands is cutting right to the gutter all the time around here. All right, bar pot episode three wrapped up. We'll see you next week. Uh, we gotta talk about interviewing people. Yeah, we'll I got some ideas. Let's talk about it this week. There it is. All right, uh, we're out. See you all later. See you guys.
SPEAKER_04Run the bum. This is now it's not let's go, let's go.