Unity Rejected

Thoughts on the apparent rejection of a cooperation deal between Reform and Restore.

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Good evening, welcome back to the Flat Cap Nationalist Podcast. This is episode number 21. A quick update, which one is Unity rejected. So you might have seen, you've probably seen, following on from the offer made from Restore to Reform for Cooperation, there has now been a response from Nigel Farage, Lee Anderson, and the rest of them over at Reform. And unfortunately for us here on the right, it's not a good response. So the message came across loud and clear that there is to be no cooperation because the terms insisted upon by reform were unfortunately prohibitive to any kind of alliance, any kind of cooperation moving forward. So the main ones being that any deal moving forward would be contingent on Restore, basically not uh not insisting on any reform step aside, meaning reform must be these are the words of Lee Anderson, reform must be on the ballot at all times. Now implicit in the original offer made by Restore with an agreement not to split the right-wing vote, which is something you know Restore has been accused of doing uh pretty much since they launched back in February. So this would mean effectively in areas of the country where Pollen suggests that Restore would be more likely to win, Reform would strategically stand down candidates, and likewise with Restore, you know, if if it looked set through a reform victory, Restore would step down so there is no vote splitting and you know there's a there's a better better chance of winning, defeating, as Rupert Lowe called it, the left wing alliance, which is I think crucial, because something the left does very well that we on the right don't do so well is cooperate the vote strategically to basically block out any attempt at moving rightward. But Lee Anderson has said reform must always be on the ballot, and unfortunately say that's that's going to be prohibitive because well what's in it for restore at that point? I think it's worth looking at this uh this olive branch extended towards reform in a slightly different light. You know, I I view it myself as a kind of referendum for the reform top brass. You know, a way of saying, are you sure? Are you sure you don't want us? Yeah, because much has been made of Rupert Lowe being removed from the party, and of course he took a good chunk of support with them. We've seen that, you know, reform demolished 20% of their parliamentary representation by getting rid of Rupert Lowe, and they saw Yeah, 15 to 20% of their vote share move over with him. Yes, we got uh faith in Rupert Lowe that we simply don't have in reform anymore. And I see this offer of cooperation as a way of saying to reform, hey, are you sure you don't want this extra, you know, 20%? You know, the votes that we've got. You know, obviously not 20% of the total electorate, but roughly 20% of reform's vote share, they could receive, you know, a a good boost by cooperating with Restore, but they just seem unwilling to do so. You know, Leanderson's response saying reform must always be on the ballot. I honestly see that as containment. I really do. I see that as an attempt to ensure that reform maintain their grip on you know power or potential power, we don't know they're gonna win. The polls have you know narrowed massively, and some of them are even showing Labour ahead. Now this is very, very concerning because even if Labour was close to reform, you know, there's still a very good chance that they end up with a a left-wing alliance to keep reform out, full stop, you know, and strategic voting could mean that many Green or Lib Dem voters vote for Labour simply to keep Nigel Farage out. But this insistence on reform being on every single ballot leaves no space for Restore. So even if it means you know sacrificing a couple of seats, winnable seats, to the left, as long as Restore don't get a foothold in the door, it's it's worthwhile for them. And yeah, I I'm very disappointed by that to be honest. But I expect nothing less. You know, I I I think reform it just smacks of containment to me. It really does. So you've got Lee Anderson as one of the figureheads, he's the uh current party chairman, and this is a man who, you know, within the last decade was a Labour MP, yeah, and then jump shipped to the Tories, and then jump shipped to reform. I think if in the space of ten years you can go from what has always been a left-wing party to what is being branded, you know, by themselves as a centre-right party and by some elements of the media as a far-right party, suggest to me that the the differences between Labour, Tory, and reform are not all that great. I mentioned in a previous podcast, I think reform and Nigel Farage, I think they're the furthest right extreme that the current establishment, the current paradigm can possibly tolerate. You know, and they know that the narrative has gotten away for the mainstream two parties, you know, Labour and Conservatives are absolutely despised. I don't think they've ever been so universally hated. Although the poll polling numbers suggest otherwise, maybe. You know, they're both up at around the 20% mark. But I think there's a real fear in Westminster that they are the establishment uni party is losing its grip on power. You know, reform is like a release valve for that. And while not ideal for the establishment, I do think that they are the furthest right that can be tolerated by that establishment. You know, they they've filled their ranks with people from the previous establishment, from the Tories, you know, the previous Tory government has infiltrated reform. And you know, it's another thing when Fraud refuses to rule out putting Jen Rick and Braverman and the failed Tory ministers into a future cabinet, again, I I just can't I cannot see it as anything other than containment. You know, the people that failed this country, the people that have been instrumental in you know bringing about the dire conditions that we have now, and you want to hand power back to those people. And you know, a lot a lot of reform supporters, they're good people, you know, and they don't look too deeply into all this stuff. But I just think they they need to think a little bit more critically about this. You know, do you really want to let all those people into your party? Do you want them in cabinet in power again after what they did last time? Yeah, when people make excuses for people like Braverman, you know, she resigned, she said Rishi Sunak, you know, wouldn't let her do what she wanted to do. Which basically proved that she was too weak and ineffective to get anything done. Yeah, she was easily defeated, easily handled by the civil service, not strong enough to, you know, take an axe to the civil service. Yeah, what makes you think it would be any different under Farage? You know, a man who's terrified of being called racist and anti-Semitic, this, that, and the other. You know, he's had those accusations levied at him across his entire career. Now he's in a position where he's doing the same. You know, he's labelling anybody to the right of him as racist and anti-Semitic and all kinds of different things. Yeah, it's more of the same. More of the same shit that we've had from the establishment for decades now. You know, I say he's he might be slightly out of the comfort zone of the establishment, but they can just about tolerate him because he won't make sweeping changes, and they know that they can keep him under control by simply levelling accusations of racism at him or discrimination of any kind. So yeah, i i it is most unfortunate that this olive branch has been rejected. You know, another one of the conditions proposed by reform was that uh Charlie Downes must be removed from Restore. Yeah, he cannot be allowed to be a part of the party if there's to be any cooperation. And over the last couple of weeks, Charlie Downes has been a bit of a punching bag by the establishment. You know, all the all the talking heads have been coming after him and uh trying to smear him as something that he isn't, uh trying to imply that he's somehow anti-Semitic, you know, and and some kind of beyond the pale Nazi and a fascist and all these different things. When effectively he just has the position that he doesn't want to see his own people become a minority in their own homeland. I don't think this is too much to ask for. You know, consider the extremism of the people that are demanding we just sit by and let our country go, give it over to people that have never contributed to it, never worked for it, never done anything tangible to improve it. Yeah, uh that's an extreme position. Historically, you never would have got that. You never ever would have got that kind of belief being prevalent, you know, that you don't have a right to your own country. Even among, you know, the people that espouse that view For ourselves, you know, they they think that we should just give over our own nation. Would they would they feel the same way if you were to suggest, hey, maybe the Somalians should get out of Somalia? You know, maybe maybe the Egyptians should get out of Egypt. No, I somehow I don't think they would. You know, it's only when it applies to ourselves that they hold that view. But Charlie Downs has come under a lot of attacks, you know, Julie Hartley Brewer and uh and the like. They they they've gone into a bit of a meltdown. It's been quite funny to watch in in some cases, you know I think one of the ones that make me laugh the most was Alex Phillips, you know, the uh talk TV lap dancing dog of Nigel Ferrar, somebody really should just put a muzzle on. You know, she she's lost her mind. She is absolutely loopy these days. Yeah, she's rapidly becoming a bit of a liability for her employers, you know, their ratings are tanking all the time, and it won't be long, I don't think, before they're off the air. And she will have had a large part to play in that. She is effectively the ultimate Nigel Ferrard shill. Yeah, anything that man says is gospel to her. You know, he's as far as she's concerned, he is a god. She's a lap dog, she's an attack dog, she's a yappy little terrier, and uh yeah, she's just embarrassing herself. Go and check her out, check out some of her meltdowns over in Restore Britain. They're absolutely hilarious. But um, yeah, obviously, this is not going to happen. You you you cannot expect Restore Britain to kick out Charlie Downs. You know, I th I think it's actually pretty pretty smart to have a young man, you know, an intelligent guy, very patriotic. I think I think it's a great move to have somebody like that front and centre. Because too often, you know, a lot of young people are disillusioned with politics because all they see, you know, the closest people they see in age to them is some like 45-year-old, you know, greying twat, you know, who's so disconnected from them, you know, isn't going through the same struggles because he isn't at the same point in his life as they are, which is why a lot of young people are disinvested, you know, they're not all that bothered about politics. And the ones that are tend to be, you know, radicalised by universities, the activists and student politicians that come out and vote left wing. There's very, very little in the way of young right-wing representation. So somebody like Charlie Downs is a great way of connecting with people of his age and and you know, people a few years older, a few years younger, and can really pave the way for the future of the party because as sad as it is to say, Rupert Lowe's not a young man, you know, he's pushing 70, and I mean he looks like a very healthy bloke, he's you know, sturdy farmer type. But uh it's important to have your future lined up, and quite clearly, you know, Charlie Downs is seen as a part of that future, and to demand that he be removed, yeah, not gonna happen. And again, I I think it comes down to what I spoke about in my episode the other day. Nigel Ferroge is used to being the bigger personality, the more forceful personality. Have you got somebody that cannot be easily browbeaten like a Charlie Downs? I think he's intimidated by that. Yeah, I don't I don't think these sort of dinosaurs of the Reform Party, I don't think they want a young man like that around because they cannot deal with that youthful energy. You know, but Charlie Downes got a lot of momentum behind him, and he should absolutely keep on doing what he's doing. You know, he's an integral part of the movement. He can engage a lot of people, and being so involved from such an early stage in Restore's existence puts him in a really, really good position to drive things forward into the future and to keep the message on brand, you know, hold the line the way that Firage failed to do so, you know, moving forward. Because Restore, I imagine they're going to be around for many elections to come because we might win in 2029, we might lose. The work doesn't end, you know, win or lose, the battle isn't over. You know, when we're talking about the very existence and survival of our country, it doesn't end on one election. Certainly the the fighting will get a lot harder post-2029 if we do not win. But I'm not giving up. I hope you listening, I hope you're not giving up, Charlie Downs ain't giving up, Rupert Lowe ain't gonna give up. Yeah. But it has been remarked by uh better creators than me, smarter people than me, that Farage may well give up. You know, if his uh if his approval rating keeps dropping, his polling starts dropping even further. You know, at one point he was skimming the sort of low to mid-thirties. He's now down to 20 to 25%. If it drops down to 15, 16, 17%, well, you know, he said it himself, he can just just as easily fuck off to America and make a boatload of money over there. And unfortunately, it does seem like money is the motivating factor for Friorge. I wish that wasn't the case, you know, because he has proven to be a good campaigner and can be pretty tenacious when he wants to be. But when that's all in service of his own bottom line, his own bank balance, kind of wasted, if you ask me. So for all intents and purposes, at least for the time being, cooperation, unity on the right is not on the card. You know, we're effectively alone in this, and that's fine. You know, I I feel like as Englishmen we've always done best. Our backs are against the wall. Yeah, so take heart and stay motivated, keep fighting, and we will win people over to our side, particularly with the help of say youthful, energetic, strong voices like Charlie Downs. I know he can rub some people up the wrong way, can come across as a bit arrogant or a bit dismissive, but you know, to me, that just comes across as a bit of a selling point. You know, quite often we on this side of the aisle get shut down by being called racist or fascist or Nazi or whatever, you know, far right, whatever it may be. And all too often, and Feraj's guilty of this, you know, many, many people on our side of things are guilty of this. They end up getting bogged down and trying to defend themselves against those accusations. And the clock runs out in the conversation, and all they've managed to do is say, no, no, no, I promise I'm not a racist. Whereas people like Charlie Downs will say, I don't care what you call me. Rupert Lowe will say it, and uh there's many, many good ones that will say it. I don't care what you call me, let's get to the point. You know, and I I feel that's much more productive because it it doesn't matter what we say, what we do, they're always gonna call us these things. You know, as part of an old communist playbook going back a long, long time, where anything effectively that they disagree with, label it racist, Nazi, fascist, anti-Semitic, all these things they've already got, you know, a bad reputation around them, words that are, you know, buzzwords that are very emotive and already have seriously negative connotations. Keep labelling things as that for long enough, and in the public imagination it becomes a fact. Yeah, and they've gotten away with this for a long, long time, and they've stagnated the conversation and warped it to a point where any talk of the preservation of our own people can immediately be dismissed as racist. Well, you're not dismissing us anymore. We refuse to be dismissed. Yeah, this is why I like the strength of people like Charlie Downs. Yeah, that's why I support these people. They're speaking the right language and they're not coating it in establishment coded language. You know, they they're not sugarcoating things to be easily digestible to the establishment talking heads. And you know, maybe it's a bit late in the day to be trying this tactic, but I honestly, yeah, I do believe people need to get used to hearing these themes because they're only going to become more and more vital the more dire the situation gets. A few years back, talking about even just deporting illegals was kind of seen as taboo. You know, you you can't mention deporting people whatsoever. Well, no, it's pretty mainstream to do so. You know, even some of the more left-wing parties will talk about deportations. Yeah, I saw a video of Angela Rayner earlier on talking about how you know they've massively increased deportations, and you've got the lefties talking about it and using it as a positive thing that they have actually accomplished. I think it says quite a lot about how far across we've managed to move the Overton window in a short space of time. Now, if only we can keep pushing and keep it moving over to get people comfortable with the idea that you know actually there are a hell of a lot of people that came illegally that also need to go. Now, unfortunately, we don't have the luxury of time to beat around the bush and pussyfoot around these issues anymore. Now we don't have time. Time is something we're really running out of. You know, so we need to be having these hard conversations, serious conversations. And in a way, I think it helps our cause that we can contrast that seriousness with the just fundamentally unserious nature of the left at the moment. You know, look at uh Burnham. I know, I know the government's on recess, you know, they're on uh what do they call it? Yeah, some kind of they call I'm sure they call it recess, but they're not actually in parliament at the moment, so not a lot's actually being accomplished. But think about fundamentally how unserious these people are, you know, these videos coming out from Andy Burnham, Prime Minister of our country, and he's you know doing his old I'm just a northern lad shtick, you know, and he and he's rating pub snacks, bar snacks. You know, like like there's nothing more serious for him to be doing. You know, Blok's been in in the job a couple of weeks and he goes off on holiday, you know, because God forbid he has to sacrifice anything, you know. Yeah, never mind the fact many people here can't actually afford a holiday after working hard all year long. Now he's done a couple of weeks and oh he's off on his off on a jolly. Yeah. But uh you you look at him, look at all these lefty politicians, they're just fundamentally unserious. And uh honestly I find it kind of disheartening how easily a lot of people are swayed by, you know, a bit of embarrassing dancing, or you know, oh this bloke listens to Oasis, or you know, they they like the same music as I do, and uh, isn't it funny? We we all like different weatherspoon snacks. You know, I I find it quite disheartening how put how easily people are swayed by those kind of optics. But um so when when the country is figuratively burning and you've got these politicians say dancing on TikTok and doing stupid little Say rating videos of bar snacks, people need to be having serious conversations. I think this unserious nature of politics, I think, is why a lot of people are disconnected from it, you know, because people can look around and see everything, every aspect of their life is getting worse, getting harder, you know, everything has fallen apart, and our ruling classes, the ruling elite, are just tiptoeing around the edges, you know, with the dancing shoes on. You know, and so think think about what it takes to inherit a country that is borrowing, you know, what was the figure that came out the other day? It was about four thousand pounds a second. That's that's money that's been stolen away from our descendants. Yeah, we're spending the tax money of our descendants to maintain failing services, yeah, instead of addressing the root causes of those failures. You know, borrowing ridiculous amounts of money and is driving you know the taxpayers out of the country, the big taxpayers. And I I'm gonna do a couple of episodes on sort of leftist economic thought um in the future, so stay tuned for those ones. But say, you know, we've got a system that has fallen apart, and the people that prop it up are being driven out of the country by the government, and that same government is just dancing, and uh oh by the way, I'm gonna knock down your bus fare a little bit, you know. There was no mandate for this, this is not what they were elected for. But again, it's it's it's this vibes-based, you know, governance, it's all based on vibes and uh and relatability, so I I don't care if I can relate to the man in charge or not. You know, I'm I'm a lorry driver from the Midlands. I don't need to have anything in common with the bloke that's in charge of the country. The only thing that matters is a determination to improve this country, to maintain it and pass down something better to those that come afterwards. That's the only thing that matters. I couldn't care less if the Prime Minister likes the same bands as I do and the same flavour of crisps. I could not care less. Once again, the the deified institution of democracy fully at work in the fact that, well, Burnham was elected on the on the back of what 30,000 people in Maker Field? Yeah, and then and then you know the MPs that backed him to succeed Keir Starmer. And suddenly we've got this new guy with a new agenda that we knew nothing about, and this is kind of reminiscent of the 2024 election in a way, because Starmer was you know notoriously very, very light on the details of what he actually wanted to do, using vague languages and the manifesto was laughably thin on detail. And he came in and decided to do a load of different things that nobody knew that he wanted to do, and even a lot of his supporters wouldn't have supported, you know, but democracy because people voted for him, yeah, and and Burnham. Again, you know, go go and listen to his acceptance speech, very light on detail, you know, full of sort of just just vague nothings, you know, speaking in in I don't know, platitudes, just speaking in a way that that gives no idea what the man's actually got in store. And then what does he do? He goes and starts tinkering around with bus fairs and devolving power, you know, to uh different mates, this is what he wants to do. Now he didn't didn't say this beforehand, but uh well he prides himself on opening up number 10 north, you know, nobody ever voted for devolved power. You know, now there are certainly arguments for the dissolution of, you know, centralised power. But let's have those arguments in good faith, don't just come in and do it because 30,000 people in an area that's never voted for anybody but Labour decided to vote for you. You know, it's democracy in action, is it not? Yeah, but I find it kind of disheartening. And I'm not saying, you know, that it shouldn't be more of a focus on the north, you know, the the the north has been horribly mistreated, it's been left behind in many, many ways. You know, you go up there and it's a beautiful part of the country. I used to spend a lot of time up north when I was doing general haulage. Beautiful part of the country, and I love a lot of the northern people. But you can look around and you know this place is just lacking investment, you know, it's not it's not been the priority of any government really for a long, long time. So as a northerner, I can understand Burnham's desire to focus on the north, but it should be a national question, you know, whether we devolve power to northern mayors and and you know, central mayors and southern mayors, or whether whether we stick with a more centralised model. But only number 10 north, I just see it as a bit of a gimmick, to be honest. You know, it's as of yet, there has been no dissolution of power, it is just where he's gonna base himself because he looked he likes the north, and hey, if I was given the choice of being up north or being in London, I'd go up north as well. Uh London's a cesspit, it has to be said. But you know, he is uh colloquially known as the King of the North, and a large part of that is based on this identity, he's giving himself as the everyman. He likes his northern beer and northern rock music, and everything about him is you know northern coded. Again, I just think it should be a national question, you know. There are certain things like say the HS2 high speed railway project, supposed to connect London and Manchester. Well, I mean I'd I'd love to see a full investigation into HS2, the misappropriation of funds and everything, because that thing has gone over its time scale, massively over budget, and it was supposed to be a high speed rail, and now we're not going to be able to deliver the high speed element of it. Oh, and the northern branch, from Birmingham upwards, yeah, that got cancelled. Yeah, the southern bit, connecting to London, A-OK, but the northern branch, yeah, that that got basically abandoned. And realistically, it's the northern branch that was more needed, you know, there should be more investment up north. I just I don't think Burnham is gonna have the correct solutions to that. You know, so tinkering around the edges uh and meddling with bus fares and and things like that is not the answer. You know, he's talking about putting taxes up for people. He's said already, he's prepared to ask the British people for more. And so this this in addition to borrowing £4,000 a second, yeah, it's that's an astronomical amount of money, is it not? You know, just asking too much and giving so little back. Yeah, I I'd much prefer the plan that Restore Britain have got of innovating, you know, helping businesses to innovate, reducing taxes, you know, increasing thresholds so that people can earn more before they have to pay certain taxes, massively simplifying the tax code, doing everything to encourage investment, because so places like the North that have been left behind absolutely need the investment. Higher taxes and and you know, government subsidised bus fares is not the answer. You know, I'd expect nothing less from Bernalme, a student politician, and he's effectively never had a real job, he's never had any real world exposure. He went from school to university and then he's rattled around the corridors of power for 30 years. Yeah, he was connected with the Blair government of '97. Yeah, he failed in that capacity, but he's a likable lad and you know likes his bar snacks, so yeah, let's let's make him prime minister. I think so. When you've got that level of short-sightedness and incompetence, if you put that up against a real, well thought out, serious argument, there can only be one winner. Now, and this is why these serious conversations are not allowed to happen. This is why they're always shut down at every possible opportunity with slurs and and implications of extremism. But I'd say once again, what's extreme? What is extreme? The position held by every single person throughout the entire history of the world up until you know fifty years ago, that a country belongs to its people for as long as they occupy it and are willing to defend it. Or is it extreme to say, no no no, you don't have a right to your country, you should give it over to anybody that turns up on the shore. One of those positions is extreme, and I tell you, it's not my position. I'd say you know the the left-wing alliance is gonna be tough to defeat. They've got their claws into the education system, media, you know, it everywhere you can imagine. Yeah, it's baked into our economy, these sort of lefty socialist provisions. That's gonna be very, very difficult to overturn, and and for that reason I was really hoping there could be some form of right-wing unity. But until people like Farage and Lee Anderson and Richard Tys and Zia Youssef, until they get their heads out of their asses and start to think realistically, it's just not gonna happen. So we can't bank on there being any kind of unification. We cannot bank on cooperation. Yeah, we're we're just gonna have to build up our own base, our own you know, form of power, our own social media game, formulate our own arguments, force our way into the mainstream discourse so that we can convert people with our ideas. Yeah, not propaganda, not the way that the lefty parties do it, where they teach you from a very young age what you should think. No, we're gonna go in cold, hard reality against the sort of fanciful dancing shoes of the establishment. You know, they they are quite literally fiddling while Rome burns. Yeah, and calling you extreme if you say, hey, maybe we should get a handle on that fire. So we're gonna have to do it ourselves, do it alone. But guys, stay strong. We've got good members, good support. We crossed the 150,000 member threshold. Yeah, I say we as if I uh I'm not affiliated with Restore, I'm just a member and a vocal advocate, a vocal supporter of Restore. You know, I believe in them as a party, and uh there's no reason you shouldn't either. And so hopefully over the course of these episodes you can start to see through the bullshit represented by Farage and the Reform Party because they had me falled, they had my vote, then they threw it away, they had an olive branch extended to them saying, Are you sure? And they doubled down, they don't want us. So they be prepared to go it along. And uh yeah, that's all I've got to say on that one. I'm disheartened by it, but I'm also encouraged. Yeah, now is not the time to get jaded and demotivated. We know that we're over the target because the flak's getting heavier, is it not? So support the store, uh, help others to see it, and uh if you get any value from these episodes, guys, share away, share with people you think might like it, or even people you think might despise it, just despite them. Yeah, I thank you for listening, thank you for all your support. It really does mean a lot. You know, when I did my first episode, I thought I'm not even gonna get five listens on this, and uh, there's not many of you, but there's far more than I would have thought from a lorry driver in the Midlands. So thank you once again for supporting. God bless you all. I'll catch you on the next one. Goodbye.