Shame In Protecting Animals and Other Insane Topics

Tripp and Graham go head long into ridiculous topics that make their head spin.  Starting with the shaming of Catherine Heigl for attending a Charity Event for Promoting Pet Animal Shelters?!  Why??  Because it was held at Mara Lago!

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:21

Welcome to another episode of Trip and Graham have issues. And uh today is not gonna be anything to disappoint anybody else because we have a buttload of issues uh today. I'm gonna start out with an issue. Yes, Catherine, isn't it? Heigel? Yes. Catherine Heigel. Yes. Uh she was attacked um because she w attended a dog rescue charity event, but it was at Marilago. And I mean okay, this is what's so crazy, and she has defended herself on this. Why is it people are so triggered about uh where it is or who is associated with it and things like that instead of the actual event itself? It is a charity event to protect dogs, to protect animals. It's a good thing. Yeah. Who cares if it's at Marilago? I mean, I I wouldn't care if it was at, you know, some place that the Obamas had or uh someplace that uh yeah, I can't I can't imagine a a place, I can't imagine a venue or something that would really upset me. Um, you know, that uh of something I really of a person I don't care if it was on Epstein Island, if it was for this this event. I wouldn't pair it in with these other things.

SPEAKER_02 1:56

If yeah, if it was a one-time event and all of the other things were uh sh shady Epstein stuff. Uh uh. One thing, yeah. Like, okay, I can separate that. It's it's the what and not the uh the it's the the why and not the what.

SPEAKER_01 2:11

I mean if they had underage puppies that they're flying into the island or something like that to have Bill Clinton pet.

SPEAKER_02 2:18

Kind of reminds me of the weird, but reminds me of the hoax uh papers from the other episode.

SPEAKER_01 2:22

Exactly the dog park thing. But uh it um and the other thing that I was thinking about when I was watching this is you and I worked closely with her husband uh for years with uh Josh Kelly. And um yeah, yeah, he and she is just a genuine, nice person, real genuine. He he shared with us uh stories that we really can't repeat on the air, but um about her her morning routine with coffee, but so um but it kept her regular, put it that way. Uh but you know, uh she's a regular person, a nice person, um but she attended an event in Marilago, and that is going to be haunting her forever. We must cancel her, we must never see her movies. I mean, this is ridiculous. This this world, it's just crazy.

SPEAKER_02 3:21

Like I said, they they don't care about the the what, it's the who and where. Yeah. Um that this that and it's it reminds me of they got upset because they gave the uh the I guess it was the Marines, maybe the all the whatever armed forces are there. Uh they gave them steak dinners. Oh, uh steak and lobster. Steak and lobster. Yeah. Democrats are mad about that. Which is whereas if if they had been it had been found if they were eating dog food, then they'd have been upset about that. So it it's really just who is in control at the time. That's all they care about.

SPEAKER_01 3:53

Oh, it it's and and and this this goes um so much of this Trump derangement stuff. And um even we're not maybe the biggest Trump fans in the world, but we recognize you cannot get upset about everything. You know, uh Trump thinks breathing air is good, so I'm against it. Yeah, nobody drink breathe air anymore. I mean, that uh it's just insane. And and he really demonstrated it at the uh State of the Union address on how far they've gone off the cliff.

SPEAKER_02 4:27

And it's funny because I I don't watch a lot of Trump interviews or the State of the Union because he's I don't know. I I he uh like the other day when he was talking about um uh how much he liked the name of Operation Epic Fury. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:41

I mean he chose it from 20.

SPEAKER_02 4:44

Excuse me, sir. Which uh which name do you like? And he's caught they're saying he called him Sir over and over. I think he likes being called Sir. But I'm just I haven't been so excuse me a second. Had to adjust my mic cord. Um I don't I I I don't listen to him much because of that kind of thing, but uh you're absolutely right. It's um uh I mean uh no matter what he says or does, they're gonna they're they're gonna be deranged about it.

SPEAKER_01 5:12

So I yeah, it's it's it's insane. It drives me absolutely bonkers. Yeah. Um the other thing is I had uh a good friend of mine um uh pointed out that uh McDonald's was coming out with a new menu. And um Oh, I did see, yeah. It's it's the three dollar menu, and which is uh akin to when they came out with the dollar menu so many years ago. But yeah, now the low cost is three dollars. That's where we're at now. Yeah, that's the uh the the threshold uh that that's I mean, where did the dollar menu go? You know, it's just like uh inflation is crazy, absolutely crazy. And we haven't been able to address it.

SPEAKER_02 5:57

A friend of mine just was telling me yesterday, actually, she went to Wendy's the same thing she got that day was$13 two days before it was$11. And she asked him about it. She says, What made the price go up? She said, Oh, that's that's just that's the Arby's raising prices.

SPEAKER_01 6:13

Yeah, we're we're actually using meat this time.

SPEAKER_02 6:15

Yeah. Yeah. That's that's you notice they're not square anymore? Because it's we're using meat now. Oh, geez, that's right.

SPEAKER_01 6:32

I want to go out and eat out Wendy. Well, here's another thing that uh the state of Tennessee um in their legislature is going to introduce a bill to ban landlords from restricting gun ownership from their renters. Now, across the country they've had where, you know, uh especially if you've got uh what they call that the Section 8 housing, where they restrict the people that that come in and rent it from from being able to have firearms or handguns or anything like that. Um this would completely reverse that. And it also uh lifts the uh their um the uh it would make them vulnerable to prosecution, uh uh being that if uh in case they had this restriction for people and somebody got shot and they couldn't protect themselves, that they could sue the landlord. So they're uh they're trying to get that in there. Now, this is a conundrum, especially for me being a libertarian, because I've got uh property rights on one hand, where the landlords have the right uh on their property to have whatever restrictions and things that they want. But then on the other hand, uh the individual rights of the renters for their personal protection in the Second Amendment. So it does sound like they get around it pretty well by saying, okay, you can exercise your property rights and restrain them from doing it, but if they get hurt, we're not gonna cover that up by saying you you can't be sued because of uh your gun restriction should have restricted the person that shot them. Yeah. And uh you can be sued because they had you'd taken away their ability to protect themselves. You've got the knit eyebrow on there. You're thinking about something.

SPEAKER_02 8:53

It's uh I uh hard keeping up with. So first of all, I didn't know Section 8. Did did you say that that Section 8 is exempt from that? What were you saying at first?

SPEAKER_01 9:04

Is it sec Section 8 housing currently in most most states? Okay, they restrict people that are coming into that housing from having firearms.

SPEAKER_02 9:13

Yeah, I didn't know that. Okay. Yeah, you would think the opposite because of how it actually is.

SPEAKER_01 9:17

Yeah, they they should require each and every one of them to be armed.

SPEAKER_02 9:20

I I agree with you on that. No, I'm saying it that's how they actually are in Section 8. Everyone has got a gun, whether it's supposed to or not. I don't know if I'm allowed to say that, but maybe racist or something.

SPEAKER_01 9:30

Well, uh well, no, it has to do with poor. It doesn't have to do with race. It's just uh people that are that are poor. Um but yeah, it's uh unless you're a Democrat, then you can say, yeah, it has to do with black people. Um you get promoted and uh move up and that's right. You're from the House to the Senate. I I know. I I just I cannot imagine, you know, uh this it's like if you know, I I I can't imagine all the the white privilege and all the wealth I'm missing out on and being white, you know, it just doesn't make sense when people make that equating of uh a racial group to economics or education or talent or anything else. It's it's crazy. Uh it's insane. Did you do you have some topics you wanted to touch on today? What do you got issues with? You got issues all the time.

SPEAKER_02 10:29

I have a a thing here full, as you can see. If we were on video, you could see. But uh for now I'll just it's audio. You should put that on paper instead of writing it on your arm. That just ruined what I was gonna do. I was gonna say it's not on video, so you just have to listen.

SPEAKER_03 10:46

That's my paper to have it written on.

SPEAKER_02 10:48

Yeah, right, right. Everybody just took their headphones off right then. All right, anyway, so back to it. Yes, uh, indeed, I do have an issue. This one's about Myrtle Beach stuff before some of the others. Ah uh this has been going around Myrtle Beach history page. Uh our good friend Martina's been talking about it. So um, we hope to have on an interview soon, by the way. Brenda, as we know, has bought the area where Cozy Corner is. Brenda and Brown Buffoon. And uh talking about tearing it down, destroying it. Oh, of course. Uh, which is disgusting. Uh but she has a vision. Yes, she's it ain't 2020. That's uh and it's I I hate I don't mean to you know go too much off on her, but uh uh yeah, she's talking about tearing it down. It's a World War II era um establishment. Dino Thompson, yeah, the the son of the original owners, yep. Um who's wrote who wrote uh Greek Boy, a great book about Myrtle Beach for anybody who doesn't know. Um it's been there since then, right after the World War. Uh they played a huge role in racial integration in the area. Yeah. Uh they weren't um they weren't political at all, but if you were a black person, you could come and sit at the same bar or same seat at the bar or at a table right next to a white person, um, which was just uh a groundbreak breaking thing in the South. You know, it was a cool thing, and here comes Brenda just wanting to tear it down. And I I I I hope somebody can talk her out of it. It's going around a lot on Facebook and online, but that's that's a big issue for me. Is like that's because that's if you know me um listening at you know my father owned Encore Video Productions, which was in that same uh that same building, that same block. I used to go to uh Pizza Villa as a kid, and I remembered they had at the time the only peanut butter Twicks that you can get around. I remember them being in the freezer, I remember the arcade, um, and then uh down downstairs where me and you used to have the you you you came up with the hecklers, yeah, uh the comedy club downstairs, all the stuff. So for her to take that out as just uh a big issue for me. I well we should probably see something's done about it.

SPEAKER_01 13:07

We should probably come up with a list of proper properties for uh Brenda and Brown to uh buy up and tear down, yeah. Uh so we can just completely erase uh all of Myrtle Beach's memories. Uh Mammies, we could have them uh take that down. Yep, turn that into an additional parking or something, or maybe another uh brew pub.

SPEAKER_02 13:26

There you go.

SPEAKER_01 13:26

Or library, yeah or uh the gay dolphin, you know, that would be a uh one that they could take out. I mean that's that's part of history here. Yep. Let's get it out of here.

SPEAKER_02 13:38

Um it's not it's not restorable, it's not right, can't it can't go into restoration. It's uh I I think Martina had written it not not restorable or not valuable. Yeah, so we think we know which one that is.

SPEAKER_01 13:54

I don't know, gross. Yeah. Um uh the G theater, um, you know, uh Palladium, the old Palladium. That's right. The Rivley Theater. Rivoli, yeah, yeah. We those have gotta go. Yeah, we we have to get rid of it. Uh might as well go ahead and rip out the uh uh the train depot.

SPEAKER_02 14:15

Yeah, that that should go. Yeah, the Bowery, it's about to be oh my gosh. So absolutely and I don't know. I I I shudder to think of what all she would do if she was given free range all over the place. Yeah, sure. Um yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:31

Um none of us would be alive long enough to see what that vision would actually come to be.

SPEAKER_02 14:38

But uh except for Nance Plaza, which she somehow turned into a private property, so either uh by uh idea or by name. Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:49

Um and which no people can really travel through because they keep having to put uh uh gates and and barriers up all the time. Um yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:01

Half the seating for the pub is out there. And I don't I don't mean to harp on it, but that's a that's one of my big issues, local issues lately. I'm just gonna leave it.

SPEAKER_01 15:12

Yeah. I mean, I'm just the only thing I'm I'm kind of proud of is house parts was able to hang on by a thread and and keep their business there. But uh I I I still think that they've got a target on their back.

SPEAKER_02 15:25

Um yeah, they probably still do. It's a good point. Yeah, um, I remember when all that was going on, he stood firm. No, yeah, we ain't selling it to you. Sorry. Yeah, we're not eminent no main. No, no, sorry, not doing it.

SPEAKER_01 15:36

Yeah. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 15:38

So good for them.

SPEAKER_01 15:39

Yeah. Um I was gonna say too, uh, our friend in New York, Mandami, has been having to try to figure out economics. He is he is not having a very good uh uh start as being mayor of uh the nation's largest city. Big surprise. Yeah. I mean he's he's upset because he cannot get money from the federal government, although he uh New York has received more federal money than any other city in the country. Um and uh yet he thinks he should get more. Um only second to uh Chicago and LA. You know, but uh and they're both having issues. Uh he's upset with their democratic governor, uh Hokel, because she said no, we're not gonna be taxing and giving you more additional funds from uh from taxation.

SPEAKER_02 16:45

Well, it's it's bad when Hokel has to stand in or step uh step up for the people. Yeah because their own mayor can't not mention he's talking about taxing them more. They're they're already out in the streets protesting. Oh, he is doing figure out something else.

SPEAKER_01 16:59

He's he's gonna tax, he's gonna tax the uh the what they call the middle and working class, meaning he's gonna tax everybody, he's taxing the poor and stuff. We all knew that that was gonna happen because that's what Marxism does. Yep. Uh and I I'm well I'm hoping they they enjoy the warm embrace of Marxism. Um as he said, yeah, exactly. Uh I mean, and what's so silly is that even with all of this, we still have people that are absolutely clinging to Marxism. Socialism, some form of Marxism.

SPEAKER_02 17:36

And that's why I wonder what's the logical conclusion? Where does that where does that where's that gonna end? What's it gonna take? Because there are some, even though they're protesting in New York, there are still some that are saying uh this is the way we believe in this, and it's I I still I try a lot to understand the mindset, but I I still can't at this point.

SPEAKER_01 17:56

Well they're they're they're upset that they're gonna be taxed, and they're also upset that they don't have the free buses yet and that they don't have the free grocery stores up and running yet. I mean, come on, people, there's a little bit of cognitive dissidence going on here. Um where did well I guess I know where they thought they thought the federal government, meaning all of us in the hinterlands were gonna be paying for the people in the cities.

SPEAKER_02 18:31

And uh yeah, it's uh it's just such a it's a childish, a juvenile thought process. Yeah. Um it's kind of like I don't know, when uh if you ever stole something as a kid, you thought that all that anything you stole, all that money, like if you paid for it either, it all that money went to the shop owner, right? Not realizing the the the course of overhead and how this everything else and them having to buy it from somebody else. That's that same kind of mindset, it's just childish. Yeah, they think that okay, we're gonna have free like all the free buses are gonna be free all of a sudden somehow. Yeah. Well, how? And it blows my mind that adults don't they can't connect those things. It's just a magic wand.

SPEAKER_01 19:15

I don't I'd like to or the the public with oh, we answered that. We're gonna tax the rich. Yeah. Okay, define the rich. How much are you gonna tax them? Does this cover it? You know, uh are they gonna stay around to be taxed?

SPEAKER_02 19:29

Uh not to mention the one percent as uh actually does, as far as federal at least, pay the overwhelming majority of tax in the country already. Um so that's why, you know, even on a federal level, when Trump talks about um you know uh lowering a corporate tax, well, there's a reason, just like with tariffs, you want to bring companies back to America, you don't want them to leave. Right. And the same thing on a city level, if you put a tax the rich in New York, all they've got to do is get up and go somewhere else. Right. And it's happening. So this just like AOC, tax the rich, the dress and all this stuff. It's just it's such a childish mindset. Oh yeah. Wild to me.

SPEAKER_01 20:10

Or or uh uh you know, oh gosh, we have to uh tax on capital gains if somebody well what it does is it tax it it it's just another tax on people's retirement. Yeah, it's not that these all wealthy people are sitting around investing all their money and just living off of capital gains from these things, it's uh uh you and I saving our our 401ks and trying to get cap gains on on those things.

SPEAKER_02 20:40

And um, yeah, I I I just to me though, even even if it was they were sitting around getting rich on let's say investments, yeah. Uh good. Yeah. You made a good decision with your own money that you worked for.

SPEAKER_01 20:55

Right.

SPEAKER_02 20:55

Why does the government to come in get to come in and say no, you've you've you've gotten uh unrealized gains too, is what sucks. Whatever the whatever the gain is at that time, they're taking the same thing with housing and all this with the property.

SPEAKER_01 21:08

They don't bail you out with the risk if you make a bad investment and you lose money on it. They don't come out and say, Oh, well, we're gonna give you money because you lost money on that.

SPEAKER_02 21:17

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 21:18

Uh but yeah. Or we're gonna give you a tax discount because you lost so much money on your investment. Um yeah. It's just it it only goes in one direction. That's actually a good point.

SPEAKER_02 21:29

I I wonder if that the tax discount, then they're not literally just giving money back, but just taking some off. I like that idea. Should you on uh because it you we want we want a make Americans to take risks in the market, we want companies to be funded and have people have a stake in it. So when you punish it with capital gains and all this stuff, it's yeah, it makes no sense. But a discount, something like Capital loss discount. Yeah, yeah. I like that.

SPEAKER_01 21:57

Well, now when you run for government. You know where you're gonna go. If only we were in charge of that. We could fix that. Well we could always we can always address it with uh our our uh county uh complainer Graham or Dram Gickinson. Yeah yeah get it find him if we can you know if if he's not if he's sober somewhere.

SPEAKER_02 22:18

I saw his Facebook page the other day. Oh, it's like he's uh it's gone MIA or something. I don't know what happened.

SPEAKER_01 22:23

Oh he's a crazy guy. He's a crazy, who knows? He's probably in hiding. That's probably what it is. Um boy. We should bring him on sometime.

SPEAKER_02 22:33

Oh, we should. We really should. That is uh yeah, it's wild. Have you seen this uh at this Jake Long uh Jake Lang? Well, you saw it. The the the guy these Muslims threw a bomb at. Oh gosh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:49

They're protesting at Mundami. Speaking of Mandami at Mandami's mansion. Um I was looking up the guy that he jumped over to throw the bomb. His name's uh Walter Masterson. This guy puts out a tweet calling everybody on the right that was at a protest, uh, basically he said he called them femnoids. Uh-huh. He says these uh incels, you know, all ran away when they saw it. He says, and he took a picture of the bomb. He says, we all just stood there, we were laughing at it because it didn't look real. Like, okay, so you have uh zero survival skills, no prowess to keep yourself alive whatsoever, stand there and look at the thing. And they were in the video, you can see them they're all just standing there just looking around and looking at it, and on the other side, people are scattering.

SPEAKER_03 23:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:35

Because we, as right right-minded people or or common sense people, right-minded in the way of not political but correct-minded, yeah. We know that it's if something's thrown like that, especially by someone who yells a bar before, it's best to probably uh disperse and serpentine all over the place, but don't just stay there. We aren't exactly incels for running from a shrapnel bomb. Yeah. So he gets on there and does it. Then he posts a video a couple days later. Says, I just want to apologize. I I I was acting kind of stupidly for for standing there. I I had, you know, in 2020 hindsight, I I should have run away from it, I should have taken cover. So I think he was CYAing because he didn't want to get somebody else hurt for listening to him. Yeah. They said, Oh, I'm I'm not gonna be in, so I'm gonna stand here and look at it. So I think he was avoiding uh any kind of thing from that. But also uh the fact that he had to come do it and do a video, it's it's like, dude, you just castrated yourself.

SPEAKER_01 24:40

Uh I think Joey Jones on Fox might have some advice for him. Uh in case people don't know who Joey Jones is, he's the the foul on Fox that was uh on the military bomb squad that lost his legs.

SPEAKER_02 24:54

And Kat Williams had a uh a skit about uh those people call him poor little tink tink. When they would run and the marathons go tink, tink, tink, tink, tink, tink. Uh poor little tank tank. Hey, to get to the finish line. That's my cat Williams.

SPEAKER_01 25:13

Spot on, man. I I close my eyes and just you couldn't tell.

SPEAKER_02 25:17

You thought a celebrity was in the building for a second. Um cracks me up. And nothing, of course. I ever in this day and age, we have to disclaim her uh Hitler bad. Not making fun of uh paraplegics. Every one of them is an incredible human being. I can't imagine going through that.

SPEAKER_01 25:38

But so they have a leg to sun in them, but that's right.

SPEAKER_02 25:43

Couldn't couldn't go against me in court, but it's uh levity. Levity is you gotta have levity. Oh yeah. So yeah. Poor little Tink Tink.

SPEAKER_01 25:55

Uh well, the UFC legend, uh let's see, I think his name was something uh Velasquez. I'm trying to think of his Kane. Kane Velasquez, yeah. He got out of uh he he just got out of prison. Good. He had a five-year um yeah, he had a five-year sentence, but uh he's out early, thank God. Um and a lot of people may not be uh uh aware of in California why he was put away, which is stupid. Um I mean he did have a mistake with firing his firearm, but um but the the the man was absolutely out of his mind enraged. I would be too because he was going after um this daycare worker that had uh uh abused his four-year-old son. Yes. And yet in California, guy with gun shoots gun be bad, no matter what the pervert is that uh did to his family or his his minor child. And I mean it it enrages me that he had a day in jail, much less sentenced to five years. That was crazy.

SPEAKER_02 27:22

And I so I guess it escaped my mind that he had a gun. I thought he just beat the shit out of him.

SPEAKER_01 27:28

I wasn't I I maybe I me read it wrong, but I thought the they said that uh that he had uh that he was trying to shoot the shoot the person or something like that. I I I'm not quite sure on the on all this. And this happened in what in 2022. Yeah, somewhere back there. Yeah. In um in Sonoma, California, I believe.

SPEAKER_02 27:52

Had to had to involve a gun if it was five years, I would guess. Yeah. I don't think you'd get five for beating somebody up.

SPEAKER_01 27:58

Well, I think that that that was the the big thing is is that they were just so enraged that he had a firearm. Yeah. I I think that's probably what what set them off on on that. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, uh just bless him that he's that he's out. But uh and but you don't hear as much rage and backlash and everything else for this these pedophiles. Yeah. I mean, it's just it's gross. Absolutely gross.

SPEAKER_02 28:28

And on the opposite end, they normalize it with maps. Oh god, yeah. Minor attracted persons. Um I I don't uh the more normal it gets, the weirder it is. I I don't you get so flustered you don't know what to say anymore. It's uh it's weird, but yeah, uh the fact that no one is angry, nobody's in the streets protesting this. Look at the I mean the Muslims that are invading. Right. Um, I mean, they're given it's almost promoted. Oh, they didn't, it's not his culture. He didn't understand the culture. I don't care.

SPEAKER_01 29:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:03

Get out exactly and go back to where you understand your culture. Uh why does why do American and European women have to pay for you not knowing, right? Not doing your homework before you get here.

SPEAKER_01 29:13

I mean, the the uh the minors, the little kids, the unprotected have to be protected by us. Um, the rest of them, like hey, Graham and I know we've got our perversions, but they're all directed at people that can protect themselves. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:32

These people are weird.

SPEAKER_01 29:36

Wink wink.

SPEAKER_02 29:40

Oh my god. Put that away. Not again. Oh geez. Uh got anything else for me? Uh yeah, it's uh the strike have you heard of the striker website, uh medical tech company? No. That was uh cyber cyber hacked by Iran, one of the biggest medical uh medical tech companies in the world. Um Iran got into their website, so when they all tried to log on the other day, it had an Iranian logo. It was like making fun of them. So they're getting us with the cyber attacks. Um which you know, I I worry more about that stuff than I do actual war. Nobody's gonna beat us in a war yet. Uh to this day, we're we're still good so far. I worry about EMPs um taking out the electrical grid grid. Let's say they do that for two weeks, we're done. That's neighbors fighting neighbors. Yeah. And it's possible. So cyber attacks like this, that that worries me more. But that's probably a I don't know, they probably got it figured out by now who did it and have already blocked it.

SPEAKER_01 30:51

Well, I mean they uh and then talk about technology too. Um, I guess we really freaked out both Russia and China when they found out that our space force took over Iranian satellites to use against them. So I heard that. Oh yeah, yeah. Uh so space forces, yeah. Space forces in in in action. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:14

And they they made fun of Space Force. Yeah. Trevor Noah in the Daily Show when it was first uh 2016 era when he was first talking about it. Yeah. Which I'm not even gonna try to impersonate him. He tried to make a joke, which is just he the guy is the opposite of funny, but yeah, yeah, he's just so stupid. But yeah, Space Force is um, I mean, it's it reminds me of Star Wars uh under the Reagan administration. There's a a reason you want to have control of at least low-level orbit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:47

So yeah, uh yeah, I think it's a good thing. Absolutely. And I I guess they use some of uh Elon Musk's technology too, with knowledge on uh you know uh satellite uh software and things like that. So with Starlink, he's uh he's pretty well versed in it, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:08

That makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 32:09

Yeah. And and i I think I don't know all the details on it because I'm not that techie techie, but it sounds like the Iranians uh had uh uh with the help of the Chinese had ripped off uh uh some of the open source, you know, stuff that the uh uh uh Starlink and Tesla uh had, you know, in there. But they of course, you know, didn't pay any of the royalties or anything else. And they just kind of openly ripped it off and used it, which ended up being to their detriment. If you're not the creator of something, you don't know uh the back doors and how you can manipulate it and everything else. Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:54

You could get the customer-facing technology version of it and not the uh back office's know-how. Yeah, exactly. Good. I love when they do that.

SPEAKER_01 33:04

Oh and I don't know if we talked about this before or not, but uh yeah, I the the other things uh got I guess Bill Gates kind of uh clenching his cheeks. Uh is that uh um uh Toshiba, I think, has decided that they're not going to offer Windows as their um as their primary operating system when they sell their new new computers and laptops. They're gonna go with Linux. I don't know if it's gonna be like Ubuntu or something like that, but uh uh or Zorin or something, but it it's gonna be a flavor of Linux that they're they're gonna offer for people and they're not gonna be uncomfortable when they get it because it it'll look like the Windows type of operating systems and things like that. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 33:54

That's kind of what I was gonna ask next, uh, because I learned about Linux from you. Yeah. Uh probably decades ago at this point. But uh I always thought that was kind of a uh almost almost like you had to know how to code to use it.

SPEAKER_01 34:07

But that's not that's not what they're doing. It really isn't. I mean, it it goes back to when it first came up, it was just like uh the uh original Microsoft basic operating system. Um and I I don't know what they called that when that was the first operating systems that came out with the uh uh DOS, that's what it was called. DOS, DISC operating system DOS. So it was MS DOS. I remember MS DOS. And um so Linux had their Linux DOS, and so you just had to type in your codes for uh Microsoft to get in the commands, and I remember doing that when I first had my first computers and um Linux had the same thing. Well, I didn't hear about Linux, I heard about you know DOS, Microsoft DOS, and that's what we all learned on so that we could kick our computers on and then learn um the other programming languages uh such as Fortran, if you were in in engineering, or um, I can't remember what it was we used if you were in uh accounting. Um but uh those were the two in college, you know, when when that's that's how old I am. I was in college when we had the the bootable um type of uh PCs. And then after that, then everything kind of evolved. Uh Apple came out and came out with Macintosh and uh showed off. Uh they couldn't wait to show it off to Bill Gates, who looked at it, and then he uh he ripped it off for Windows.

SPEAKER_02 35:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:47

And um, so then we've got these things, and of course, Linux operators, they're sitting there watching both of them and playing around with all these open source things, sharing stuff, and and coming out with all these different flavors of uh uh of Linux and so on to use. And so it is uh uh most of uh say, for instance, the the giant um uh servers and everything else that's used across the world run on Linux. They don't run on uh on the expensive uh Windows server operatings and things like that. Uh but Linux was actually more popular than Windows in a lot of European country countries for for operating systems because it was more adaptable for the languages and for the uh for open source uh uh what do I want to call it? Open source uh software that was particular for those regions. And so people would always use that. But um yeah, uh this is gonna be huge because the reason why everybody is so into Windows is because you couldn't buy a computer without it. And um it's just like buying an Apple without having or an Apple product without having the Apple operating system to it. Um but uh like I said, they've got uh Linux ones that have that mirror what uh the Apple uh operating system would operate like and look like and feel, and they do that with the uh the windows. But I think the ones that are really cool have their own unique uh look and feel to it. Um where instead of popping windows uh open or you know, having them expand, they have cubes or you know, things like that, or uh little uh file books where you just keep scrolling through the pages and stuff like that for the different applications you have open and things like that. So uh I always think that those are kind of cool because they're more 3D and so on, but they use a lot more of your system uh power and memories and all that kind of junk. But uh yeah, this is gonna be devastating um if other uh other hardware companies start abandoning uh paying uh for for Windows. I think that's gonna be a huge kick into their their company.

SPEAKER_02 38:22

I imagine it would take a while, but uh yeah. Yeah, sounds like it could be. That kind of reminds me of when I used to be able to jailbreak iPhones, when everybody used to be able to. I remember running uh the I guess it was the whatever Android version on my iPhone. Yeah. And you could just switch it back and forth. Yep. When you used to be able to jailbreak them. That was kind of cool. Yeah. Back in the iPhone 4, iPhone 5 era. Now, now you can't do it, but that's what that reminds me of.

SPEAKER_01 38:50

Well, some some people are are are uh jacking their Androids and having them run on Linux. Um yeah, many Linux phones. Yeah, yeah. That's neat.

SPEAKER_02 39:01

It is their phones are still fun at least. Yeah, yeah. Um yeah, speaking of tech, uh this was the last thing I had. Um uh someday I hope to talk more about this for anyone uh listening interested, but um I've been doing a lot of research into AI recently, and I mean recently, I mean in the last couple days. Um uh in that research, I found I I heard uh just a couple days ago that 50% of all online articles are written by AI now. Wow. That's half of everything you read newsworthy is AI generated. Wow. Wow. AI has its place, uh of course, but I don't think it should be in journalism. Um but that yeah, I just thought that was wild. So uh on the other side of that as far as our social media things, that uh what what a lot of these social media companies are doing now is using they're using AI slop on purpose. These AI generated videos where it's like a cat, you know, uh being a firefighter and then it explodes after it farts or something. Yeah, it's uh they're using that um because it they also promote ad revenue. Yeah. And they know that people are stuck on their platforms. It's gonna be real hard for people to leave. Yeah. Um, so they're using that to generate advan uh revenue. And so the thought is that the more they do this, the more people are gonna get sick of looking at it, they're gonna leave their social medias, and by this time they're already billionaires anyway, so it doesn't matter to them. Um, and something new is gonna come of it, which could save the internet, is what some people are saying. Um, and then I always like to do a book thing at the end of mine at least. I've got two this time, but this one is called this one is from Filter World. It's called How Algorithms Flattened Culture by Kyle Chaka. I was blown away by this. I don't want to say the the uh social media site at this point. Um I maybe say that later, but a um a deputy of a certain CEO of a social media company in 2016 wrote this. So we so we connect more people. That can be bad if they make it negative. Maybe it costs someone a life by exposing them to bullies. Maybe someone dies in a terrorist attack coordinated on our tools, and we still connect people. The ugly truth is that we believe in connecting people so deeply that anything that allows us to connect more people more often is de facto good.

SPEAKER_03 41:38

Hmm.

SPEAKER_02 41:41

Disturbing, yeah, to say the least. Um that was in 2016. So you can imagine what these the social media platforms are doing now. Um that's that's probably where I'll leave it for that topic for now. But there are two books. Uh, one of them, I just I started reading both of these yesterday. The first one is if anyone builds it, everyone dies. Why superhuman AI would kill us all. Good thing is we're not we're not near superhuman yet, but there are companies that are working toward it fast because we're in an AI arms race, not only within the country, but against China and Russia and other, you know, the people that want to want to get there first. Um, you know, just like the the Cold War. But now it's about AI. Wow. That book is by Eliza, these are weird names. Elizar Yudkowski and Nate Sores. The other one where I just read that, which I already said it, but the other one where I just read that quote quote is from a book called Filter World, How Algorithms Flatten Culture, which is really cool because it it goes into real world things. Uh, one of the authors, or actually the author of this one, uh travels the world, and he started noticing that when algorithms started becoming real involved in social media Instagram, Facebook, uh, Twitter at the time, you know, all of them. Yeah, TikTok, even uh, all of these coffee shops around the world that he would go to started to all look the same. Ah. And he noticed it that it lined up exactly with that algorithm culture. So you see, so this everybody around the world is all watching these same algorithms, except in China where they with TikTok, they don't show you the American version of TikTok because they know what they're doing. They know exactly what they've done. They have classical music and ballet on there. And educational and pride and country and all this. And we get uh some girl making up a dance that's it takes about t two calories to do. Um, and so get 15,000 likes on it. Anyway, off topic, just it's it's it's just slop. Yeah. But anyway, he's saying how it's in in infiltrating actual real world stuff. So it's it's really opened my eyes to how much social media is is It's such a cliche thing, but it really is disconnecting people whether they realize it or not. Right. Um whether it's you go into a coffee shop and you want to take a picture of your coffee before you drink it. Let's say that takes what two minutes? Well, you know, three or four minutes if you want to edit the photo, put some hashtags, post it. Right. How many times a day, how many times a week, how many times a day do you do that kind of thing, even just throughout the day? It adds up in time and people are ignored. It's one of my biggest things, and I'll shut up after this, but it's one of my biggest things. You go to a restaurant, you see everybody sitting and staring at their phones. And what are they doing with their phones? They've got the thumb pushing up. Yeah. Just pushing up the screen, just couples. Go out to eat. What's the point? You know, so it's uh these books have kind of opened my eyes and some things that have happened with me um lately that um I guess I'll talk about later if anybody's interested. But uh yeah. Well, I mean it's wild how how uh how ingrained we're social media isn't and and we don't even realize it fully yet. Right.

SPEAKER_01 45:00

Well our we will have links uh to where they can look at Amazon for those books and in our uh for our listeners in the um in the show notes that we have here. Um but that is a concern because I mean our our our uh population is uh and birth rates are going down. Um you have uh young boys growing up that aren't even interested in you know uh being part of the touchy booby tribe and uh and stuff like that, which is concerning, you know, it really is. And uh so yeah, these uh the social impact that all of this is going on is is just incredible. And I if people are uh are enraged and have issues, if you've got issues and you're a listener, put it down the the show notes, we'll we'll address it uh too. But if you've been listening to Trip and Graham have issues, and we will listen or we will have you uh join us next week when we uh introduce some more issues and maybe um in the near future uh Martina will come on and speak with us. Uh go to libertycrackmedia.com if you're interested in more books. We've got the bookworm mom. And um if you want to hear about uh politics and uh another beautiful day in Myrtle Beach, then uh tune in to Conversations with the Hoff. And if you just want to laugh at a bunch of goofy guys, uh you've got to listen to microphone monkeys. But uh if you love to hear us groan on about our issues, and after this, we're gonna go out and have some cigars. Tune in for some more.

SPEAKER_02 46:42

By the way, I was in the room for microphone monkeys for part of that, and that is a good one. Uh tune into that one as well. They all are, but I I got to hear some of that one.

SPEAKER_01 46:50

Well, these guys are funny. We gotta have you sit in on some of those too. I'd love to say goodbye. Goodbye, everyone.

SPEAKER_00 47:00

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