After a Time.... Graham is Back!

Graham had some physical issues come up lately, but now he is back!  And boy, does he have issues to share!

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:20

And welcome back to a long hiatus we've had for Tripp and Graham Have Issues. Graham has had some several issues, unfortunately. He is just getting out of being rehabbed and not the fun kind of rehab. My body sick. Yeah. Is your mic on?

SPEAKER_01 0:39

Oh, I should turn it on. Yeah, that would help. That's one of the keys to a good podcast is to make sure the equipment is on. Yeah, yeah. Turn on the mic. Go ahead and repeat what you were saying. I was just saying, my body sucks. I've been out for a number of weeks.

SPEAKER_02 0:51

Uh, yeah, yeah. And it it's not an exploding scrotum or anything like that. So don't worry, ladies. Nothing fun like that. No confetti involved or anything. He's still intact. Uh so uh the gals out there can just rest assured he'll be back on the prowl. And so man. Lock up your daughters, lock up your daughters. Yeah, there we go. Uh, but uh we are here in the midst of bike week, and one of my pet peeves right now are the bike week haters. The people who live here or just moved here and they can't stand bike week. Look, it comes every year. It's like I don't like Christmas. I mean, it's crazy. We have had the the motorcycles, you know, rolling in here every every year, same time, same place, and uh it's like people are so surprised.

SPEAKER_00 1:48

You know, it's I don't know, it's so noisy, it's so that the traffic is so backed up, it's so so what? It's so fun.

SPEAKER_01 1:57

And it's been a lot worse in in the past years. So they didn't they have no idea, I guess. Exactly. Like this is kind of calm compared to what it used to be. Exactly, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 2:05

I mean, I I live by uh down by um King's Highway at a stoplight, and on that stoplight is where it would hit red, so then they would go brr, you know, just sit there and rev and rev and rev until the light changes and then they're brrrrr going out. And this is it 12 o'clock at night, one in the morning. But you know what? It was a little bit disturbing when I had the dog because the dog would get a little agitated from from it at night. Sure. But you know what? I anticipated it, and I would drug up my dog as much as I could, um, and trying to join them. Um, but yeah, it's it's not like it's uh not anticipated. And I would say, you know, to plan a trip if you really don't like it. Yeah. Or if you or embrace it and go out to Suck Bang Blow or Beaver Bar and enjoy the live music, the the the fantastic, wonderful, crazy people that are here. The the craziest for sure, some of those guys. Yeah, the incredible machines that they're driving. Yeah. I mean, I mean, there's so much spectacle in life. Enjoy it, you know. Just don't look at all the negative to it. There's a lot of positive that goes along with it.

SPEAKER_01 3:20

I think so too, or this week at least.

SPEAKER_02 3:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:23

Um, I did see a funny one. There was it was actually on one of the news uh WMBF or something, but uh it was somebody put up on social media video saying uh local residents are tired of this noise, and it was it was supposed to be bike noise, and it was a shot of uh suckbang blow, but it was somebody's cammed engine. It's not something that a harley, it was a you know, and they were trying to make that sound like it was the bike noise, yeah, but it sounded like somebody had a cammed out engine right beside the mic. It wasn't even the Harley noise. So some of the stuff they're complaining about, especially on social media, it's like that's that's that's you that's made up. That's not even it's not even the right sound effect they got. Honda Civic without the tailpipes. Yeah, it would be just like that. It's not what it's not the sound those bikes make. No, but uh it was that's funny. I remember uh going well, go ahead. We can with this bike week. I was gonna talk about the next one.

SPEAKER_02 4:21

Well, I was just saying, uh everything, like I said, it it looks like the entertainment's been good. Um, my friend Jason Ray Walsh, who's a uh a country singer, uh, had a couple gigs that he had to cancel, unfortunately, because he's got a uh a vocal cord issue and stuff. So, you know, I and that was one of the few things I was gonna go out and and watch and support him and so on. But every time there's a bike week, I usually go out and get get out and amongst them. I went out with a mutual friend of ours, uh uh Tim Helby and his brother uh to suckbang blow, I think, last year. Um, and you know, you you can't do that every year. Yeah, I mean it it takes you a couple of years to recover and you get back out. It looks like it. Yeah, yeah. I mean it's a lot of fun, but it just really takes it out of you.

SPEAKER_01 5:08

I think I've been I've been to it once. That was yeah, when I was young.

unknown 5:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:13

And I could uh move around freely. I was uh it was, I mean, it's pretty cool, and there's a lot of noise, but it's not really my thing. I'm not annoyed by it. No, but I'm just not really into motorcycles all that much. So, but I like I say, I I think it's cool that we have it here, especially since it's uh mostly non-violent. There's one video going around these two white girls that got in a fight, but I think the video is viral because it was more funny than anything is dangerous. Usually this crowd is uh peaceful and there's not a whole lot of problems.

SPEAKER_02 5:41

It's a bunch of geriatrics. I mean, then come on, let's let's face it, you know, it's just a bunch of old people because they're the only ones that can afford the types of bikes that are out there. That too, yeah. So um, and then uh I think uh even the Atlantic Beach Bike Fest is kind of dying out a little bit. Um and so even that's been kind of neutered. Um I enjoyed those too. I mean, I I was with uh the uh speed channel crew uh that would do that. We'd fight out and you know, fight through the the crowds. Yeah, that those uh with and if you're not aware uh folks listening, it was what we call the Black Bike Week that comes in after uh this one. And um, you know, there are a lot of complaints and lawsuits and everything that come about every year from it. Um but again, it's not as horrible as I think people put it out put it out to be because it's not like it used to be in the past.

SPEAKER_01 6:45

Yeah, um it was I remember shooting uh uh a lot of those, covering those for say Myrtle Beach and for different networks, like you say for Speed Channel and some others. Yeah, and we had to have a police escort everywhere. There was one year I wasn't allowed to go, I was too young because it was too dangerous to be out and they had to go out and shoot with it and had heavy police escorts everywhere. That's when it was really bad.

SPEAKER_02 7:10

Um that's when they had the East Coast, West Coast rap riots going on.

SPEAKER_01 7:14

Oh, that yeah, I could see that. Well, according to social media, and I think exacerbated by social media, they're planning a return to that uh that type of bike week here.

SPEAKER_02 7:26

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 7:26

Uh whether that's because they think that it's um there's tree to draconian rules we've put in place or the cops are too heavy. Our last spring break, they're all complaining that the cop presence was too heavy, too heavy-handed, uh almost uh antagonizing and all this. So we're gonna bring in more people, yeah. So I don't know if it's a protest against they're saying, you know, like screw Myrtle Beach, we're gonna go screw it up or whatever they're thinking. But uh according to social media, I don't know. And we'll, you know, it's a different regime we have now, and there is a heavier police presence, so we'll see how that goes. But yeah, uh, it's a little concerning. And and then see, I used to what I used to like about it was that we'd have the Myrtle Beach scanner, so we'd stay up all night to the scanner, yeah. And you would hate it to hear when somebody was shot, but the rest of it was like, are you kidding? Some of the stuff that you know chasing there's a naked woman standing on the back of a bike someone on doing a headstand and chasing her down. It's like the the wildest stories, yeah. And it was truly entertaining. Now uh Myrtle Beach has shut off all of their uh their uh their frequencies, yeah. Because I always wondered that too. It's like, well, if we can hear it, then the the people there that are running from the police can just tune in and hear it. They finally put an end to that. So I can't even we don't get I don't get the entertainment out of it now. That's it. Well we'll see how it goes. I think uh I don't I don't know. Uh they really did a good job with shutting it down, like you said, because it used to be way worse. Yeah. Uh one of the funniest stories before we go on, there was a bar called uh well, I think it was um not Dirty Don's, uh one of the kind of seafood bars along the uh 17 bypass there.

SPEAKER_02 9:06

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 9:06

Uh they had three strikes for their liquor thing. Yeah. Maybe it's better I don't say the name and I forget because it you know that bartender may not even work there anymore, so I don't want to put down the the bar. Right. Um, so they they were they were told they had to close for one weekend. They says, We're gonna let you pick the weekend. This was during the height of the bad bad bike week. They says, Okay, we'll pick Memorial Day. So the NAACP couldn't sue them because they were required to shut down by the city, and it just happened to be that weekend. Yeah. I was like, that is a genius move. Move. So they couldn't tear up the bar, couldn't you? Because, like I said, that's when they were very tearing everything up and had to put Porta Johns down the middle of the 501.

SPEAKER_02 9:44

Well, and anyway, you know, you hear you hear a lot of, you know, and this is goes, you know, a lot of typical things that uh people are upset that are in the service industry that there are no tipping during that time. Yeah, so um uh again, I know that sounds real racist, but it just is uh, I mean, uh Germans brink drink beer, um Irish drink whiskey. Right. Um, you know, there are things, there are reasons for for having those uh types of things. So uh yeah, I I don't, you know.

SPEAKER_01 10:20

Uh and it and at you know, the beginning of the of Memorial Day bike weekend, the the people who created it show that it's not this isn't about race. They don't even like what it became. No, yeah. Vice uh actually ran a whole hour-long uh they did a whole documentary years back interviewing the the OGs. Yeah, the ones who started. They don't like it. No, they hated what it became. Exactly. Has nothing to do with being racist or anything.

SPEAKER_02 10:45

No, no, it's such a goofy and they used to have a lot of the uh uh the what do I call Carolina beach bands uh that used to be part of that festival. They were completely squeezed out. Yeah, you know, it's all rap music and stuff like that, but you you know, you don't have the the polka dots and the um you know chairman of the board and sing all the all the beach music playing out there anymore. Uh we don't even have the uh the classic blues bands that that used to play. Um they'd always book them out at uh at the House of Blues and stuff. They don't do that anymore. Yeah. Um so yeah, it's just uh I mean it doesn't it doesn't show off anybody's culture.

SPEAKER_04 11:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:29

That's that's the thing. You know, they're like, oh well, you don't like our culture. That's not your culture, dude. You know, it really isn't. We celebrate your culture. We love it. I mean, I I loved it when I lived in Memphis. I was I'd live on Beale Street. Um, I you know, uh I I could quote you everything from the Blues Brothers movie. Um it it depends on what you're you're you're gonna be you know tapping into or or the new New Orleans jazz culture and things like that. But this stuff that they're they're talking, this urban stuff, that's no, that's that's not culture. That's not at all. Uh but that's what they're leaning into, and that's what they're that's the the made-up narrative that they're trying to create, yeah, bring bring out there.

SPEAKER_01 12:12

So but you had even uh suckbang blow just had walk a flock of flame. Anybody doesn't know that is a big hip-hop artist years back, uh 2015, 16, that that era. So I mean it's there there goes racism out the window. If that's I mean, there's nothing but white people that suck bang blow. They were all there going crazy over a rapper. But like you were saying, that isn't that isn't I don't mean to say that all rap is is bad. A lot of it is, it doesn't it degrades their culture, right? Um but it's I'm trying to tie two things together here that aren't tieable, but uh well just kind of a off top offshoot of what you were talking about.

SPEAKER_02 12:51

Um uh Afroman uh playing out at the um oh he played at Boathouse, yeah. That's right. And 90% of his audience was white. But he every time he shows up, yeah, they're all out there, they're taking selfies, they're having a great time with them. And and yeah, and they know each and every one of his songs. Of course they all sound the same, but you know. Um anyway, but he's funny, yeah, he's entertaining, uh, and people love it. There the racism is dead. And I love those memes where they have you know the the the uh the donkey that's trying to uh put the clappers onto the onto the corpse that says racism. Don't you die on me, damn it.

SPEAKER_01 13:34

So oh yeah, in the line in the hospital bed, what exactly resuscitated, whatever.

SPEAKER_02 13:39

Yeah. And then you look you you look at the goofiness from like the uh Southern Poverty Law Center, and they're the ones that have been financially supporting the KKK and all these racist organizations in order to fundraise against racism.

SPEAKER_01 13:56

Yeah, you know, and nothing ever happens. There's what what's gonna happen with that?

SPEAKER_02 14:02

Well, they're currently they're currently in uh I think they're starting the lawsuit or the the court cases this week. Um yeah, they're in court. They're massive courts, yeah. I hope something comes to that. Well, we'll we'll see because you know you and I have been on this rodeo before, and it's this uh usually it's just a big bowl of disappointment. But um, yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see what what comes about, if there's gonna be any changes or not.

SPEAKER_01 14:30

Yeah. I mean it's something needs to be done because we all we've all been living in pretend world for too long. Clown world's been around for a while. I I still use that. I love the meme, the little clown with the little with the little globe behind it. Yeah, that's but it's probably stuck in my emojis as the first two for anything on my social media. Yeah, I use it so much, but it's it really is pretend world now, and we have been for a while because we have to pretend like uh uh um the uh uh a lot of these people that were uh anytime let's say with like uh uh I'm trying to think of a good example now. Well, any anybody who's mixed race is black now.

SPEAKER_02 15:07

Yeah. Uh any anybody who is uh wearing a wig and lipstick is a female. Right.

SPEAKER_01 15:12

Um, or I mean like I I did I put up a video, like we talked about the Kevin Hart roast. We all have to pretend that those were racist jokes. When all those guys are they're good friends, they're in the green room together, they're having a good time laughing. Yeah, we have to pretend to take liberals seriously in the in the Southern Poverty Law Center and ACLU. Well, they're AOC. I mean, we we put the dumbest people in charge and we have to we we're forced to pretend like this is to we have to pretend to take them seriously. Yeah. Either because we're uh being we're afraid of giving some moniker that's a bad thing, or uh racinist, misogynist, homophobic, xenophobic, whatever it is. We're all just terrified of these labels. Well the people So we all have to pretend now.

SPEAKER_02 15:52

Yeah. The people that should have shame don't have it, and the people that have shame, they're trying to exploit it. Yeah. And uh yeah, it's just uh it's crazy. It's crazy that way. And you've you've had uh even um, you know, you've had your corpse uh put out in front of the uh the camera, and you've had a couple uh videos you've put up. Um really good. I mean, I really have to I I hate to admit it. I mean, damn it. He did it again, and I'm like, shit. I appreciate it. Damn it. He's good at that.

SPEAKER_01 16:22

A lot of it is because at Facebook, it's so tedious. This is why I don't argue on Facebook anymore, because it's so tedious to type an argument.

SPEAKER_02 16:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:28

Uh you know, again, a little pithy back and forth sometimes, but it's a true argument. So I think I, you know, I make videos because it's it's too much to type. Yeah. I wish more people would get into that. I I almost wish you could do a video response. I wish Facebook would allow you to respond in the comments with a short video. Um that exact that kind of thing. Uh the more people talking, especially if you can see them, yeah, the better society is.

SPEAKER_02 16:53

Then you can't take it out of context. You know the voice inflection, how things are supposed to be in. Um there's a uh uh young woman up in um my home state of Wisconsin, love her to death. Uh we don't see eye to eye politically, which is okay. And um, she just had a meme that was put up, and I read it, and and of course, you know, I've got a background in communication arts, and I'm looking at it from a logic and communications type of where you parse it to see if the the argument uh holds up in in sections. And it and what the meme put out uh was supposed to be that if you're if you're uh you don't call somebody a feminist, you just say that the remainder people who aren't feminists are sexists and misogynists or something like that. But anyway, the the problem was the way that the the language in it it made it that everybody who exists as a human being is sexist. Which I don't argue with that that point because that that could be valid. But I don't think that that was the argument that they were trying to put forward. And I was trying to get it to them that hey, can you, you know, if um if there's the if you're taking out the feminine in feminism, you know, does then you have to go through and say that there's a biological aspect like defining what a woman is? Is that what your argument is? And if you don't recognize that there's a spectrum, then you are automatically sexist. That's what I was trying to get it to get to. But it's again, like you were saying, it's hard to put it down and so I try to simplify it as much as possible. And of course, her response was just a little off-kilter, uh, a little strong um uh and combative. And it it was not an intention. I was like, I don't care about your premise, I could care less about the premise. Um, but I was trying to say, I don't think you're communicating or convincing anybody anything because the meme was bad. And you know, the the joke is the left doesn't know how to mean. Right. And um and also that if you technically looked at what you were putting out there, you're not you're actually making the argument for the other side.

SPEAKER_01 19:29

Yeah, I was gonna say she's detracting from her own argument with a with a misaligned meme.

SPEAKER_02 19:35

Yeah. And and um and I was just like that that's all there is to it. But I think that the um there are so many people out there, and and it's not, it's both on the left and the right. There's there are some people on the right that are this way too. If you're not in agreement with whatever the idea is that they're trying to put out there, then you're you're absolutely against them and you're a terrible person. Yeah. And it's not that, it's just that, hey, I I want to explore the shades of gray, or uh, I just want some clarification um on your position because I'm I'm a little confused, or something like that. And how dare you question me? Because now I have to actually think about what I said and examine it, and I don't want to do that. I just want to get my my cheering points and stuff out there.

SPEAKER_01 20:22

So that's that's one of the biggest things is that they don't want to. I don't want to have to take it away. I just want to see how many likes I can get, or yeah, or who you know, all the people on my side come in.

SPEAKER_02 20:31

Cheers from inside my bubble, right? Um, and yeah, which is sad, you know, it really is.

SPEAKER_01 20:36

I think uh uh one of the best examples I've seen in a long time of these gray areas because these are two guys that are on the same side of the aisle. Well, uh technically they are Nick Fuentes and Steven Crowder. For anybody who doesn't know who that is, Nick Fuentes is considered a far right, well, he calls himself far right. Um he's really commentator, uh he's been doing he's very young, he's very intelligent, uh very well informed. He's um he's he's telling people to vote Democrat now because he's so fed up with the GOP of them promising us stuff and that we're not getting anything they promise, including with Trump, and he was a big Trump cheerleader at first. Steven Crowder is used to be a libertarian. Uh he's not as far right, and he says, no, we shouldn't be voting Democrat. Why would you vote for the opposite of anything we want? We can get something by voting GOP or the opposite by voting Democrat. Not the point. The point is those two guys, and they got heated, but they were face to face over video.

SPEAKER_02 21:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:33

The first interview, they were in studio together, so they've done this twice.

SPEAKER_04 21:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:37

And they were, and at the end, they were they shook virtual hands as they always do, and that's how it should be. Even if you're on the same side of the aisle, you can get heated. Yeah. But it's like you said, they don't they don't want to. So the more people like doing videos, that's what I'm trying to tie this back to. Right. If you say do little videos on Facebook or or wherever it is, TikTok or whatever, or genuine or audios, yeah, and you're genuine. Then that's that's where that's where we can start to heal, I think. I agree. And and and ty and especially having to type on a phone. Uh you talk about fatigue and an argument. I can't I can't so much.

SPEAKER_02 22:14

And then the autocorrect uh does stuff. It makes me just throw the phone sometimes. Just forget the argument. Makes me look like more of an idiot than I actually am.

SPEAKER_01 22:23

Exactly. And and then by the time I'm done typing it, I go back and read it. It's so uh I don't know. Um people can probably tell from listening on this podcast. Uh you know, I'm kind of all over the place. I'm not a good storyteller, so I'll go back and read it, and I'm like, uh I'll shake the phone. If you shake your phone, it'll erase everything. Uh so I'm just and then I spend 20 minutes trying to type an argument, and I'm like, I don't even like it. So anyway, so yeah, I think I think people doing videos since we you know we're not all face to face much anymore, and that kind of thing is good. Anyway, that's why I do those.

SPEAKER_02 22:56

Well, our friend Tim doesn't he doesn't type anything, and it he always puts this like little speaker thing and talks into it. Uh yeah. And he never looks at how it type it types it out for him. Yeah, especially with his unique pronunciations of things. And some of his messages are absolutely inappropriate, much less unreadable. Shout out to you, Timmy.

SPEAKER_01 23:21

Yeah. Talk about a funny a guy that's funny in the first place without the uh iPhone corrections. It's probably even funnier with it.

SPEAKER_02 23:32

But he's a he is he cracks me up. Oh, it really is. And uh have you read any good books lately?

SPEAKER_01 23:39

Right now I'm reading uh Dr. Sad Gad. Uh backwards. Dr. Sad Gad Gad Sad, uh S-A-A-D. Say odd. Um he's he says it sad. I don't know how you whatever it is. So uh yeah. Great book um called uh just spit all over the odd uh podcast desk. Uh called uh um what is the name of it? I just had a picture of it. Uh the subtitle is dying to be kind. The point of it is how we're uh uh oh uh suicidal empathy, uh how we're uh killing ourselves off as a Western culture by allowing all these third worlders in. Yep. A lot of it has to do with feminism and women and their feelings, and they want to let up all these people. Just like this guy, the the this black fellow who shoved the 80-year-old down the stairs in the subway, right? He he was arrested. The white woman who refused to press charges when he assaulted her uh months back, maybe, not even that long ago.

SPEAKER_02 24:39

Because she didn't want another black man in jail.

SPEAKER_01 24:41

Didn't want to put a black man in jail. That's suicidal empathy. That's what he's writing about. And uh a lot of people have written about it. Pat Buchanan, The Death of the West, written in the early 2000s, he's writing about the same thing. Thomas Sowell, uh, a black man has written about this too. I think that's where we're headed straightforward. If more people don't I hate the term wake up, but it is if we don't uh or if we or if we stay terrified of being labeled uh some scary or bad term. Well, we're not as all woke as Graham. Oh, that would be funny. A clone of me, but I'm I'm super woke. It's the opposite. Well, like a female episode, something like that.

SPEAKER_02 25:20

And and you're mentioning Thomas Sowell, and Thomas Sowell was talking about the evils of altruism. Yeah. You know, people think, oh, well, if you're altruistic, you've got to be a fantastic person. No, you're an idiot. It can get you killed.

SPEAKER_00 25:32

Suicidal, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:33

It can literally get you killed. Suicidal, absolutely. Yep, yep. And uh, and he he is somebody who has gone and uh gone from the the uh Marxist left, and then he's like, wait a minute, this doesn't make sense and and is kind of crawled out of the mud and all by himself, and and he has been the best at really illustrating um how ridiculous these things are.

SPEAKER_01 26:04

For a long time now, too. For a very long time since the early 80s, yeah, late 70s. Uh he's been he's been around doing it a long time.

SPEAKER_02 26:11

Yeah. And uh I mean he's his books are incredible, and they're so readable, they really are. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:18

That's the other thing I think is important too. We we need and less less intelligentsia when we're talking about this kind of stuff. This stuff needs to be, even if it's by the uh the most intelligent people, Thomas, Dr. Sad, uh uh Buchanan, uh all the uh Shelby Steele, another black man, yeah, uh who writes about the same kind of stuff. It needs to be accessible for for people who are into it. Uh my mother, uh, she she asked the other day if she could read uh Sad's book. And I says, Well, I got one for you that I finished a while back. If you want, she's reading now The Death of the West, Pat Buchanan. Oh, there you go. So and it and it's very accessible. So there you just I know that's my own mother, but the more we talk about this stuff. Another reason I do video some of the videos, I it needs to be where people feel comfortable bringing up these topics and a lot of others that are taboo that you can't talk about. Xenophobia and that you can't, you know, can't go against Muslims. By the way, uh I forget his name, but uh one of these guys that's he was he's always wearing a bulletproof vest in New York. He just burned a uh Quran outside of a mosque.

SPEAKER_02 27:23

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 27:24

First time it's ever been done in the United States, apparently.

SPEAKER_02 27:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:27

And he's in a lot of trouble for it. Why?

SPEAKER_02 27:29

Shouldn't be, because it's uh because they'll burn a Bible in a second.

SPEAKER_01 27:32

Second, it doesn't matter. American flag, which you have the right to do, but yeah, why is he in trouble for burning? And that's where that is suicidal. We are we are killing Western culture, and that's not good for any for the for the world. No, the world would not be as in the advanced state that it is if it wasn't for modern Western uh European, frankly, white men. Sorry, but that's the truth. Yeah, that doesn't mean no one else has contributed wonderful things. Correct. It just means that we wouldn't be where we are.

SPEAKER_02 27:59

So and besides, we're we're a bunch of misogynist, uh sexist white men having this podcast. So uh take it as you want to.

SPEAKER_01 28:08

That's why we need please, if you're a black person or a Muslim or a Portuguese or Indian or Asian, please come in and let us interview you so we can take a picture. Uh just for the picture is all we need it for to get so we can put social media. And then then get to the back of the bus and go home.

SPEAKER_02 28:23

Get the hell out of here. But I I gotta say though, I really uh something that happened this last weekend, and because you were ill and because I got tied up, we have to do next year though. It's called Smoke Out, uh, the Charleston Smokeout. It looked like so much fun. And um they had music, they had restaurants, they had lounges, they had uh cigar manufacturers that are were out there and and uh so on. And of course, uh I think it was put on by a group that's uh black, and a majority of the people that were there were black. Yeah, you know, there were a few few white people there, but it looked like so much fun. I you and I would have had a gas.

SPEAKER_01 29:12

Oh yeah, I some some of the most fun times of my life were at black events. Oh yeah. I love it. I mean it when I was in Philly working with uh with Encore in Philly, yep, we went there too with a German intern. I don't know if you remember him, yeah. The one that got punched in the face on the boulevard and had to have his jaw wired shut. Yep. It was crazy. But uh we went to a club down there in Philly and it was an all black color. We were the only two white people in there. Yeah, one of the best nights of my life. When uh you know, when it's where everybody's the oldest day in the nights uh kind of huh?

SPEAKER_02 29:40

Your oldest day in the nights kind of episode. Yeah, yeah. If people were don't, you know, it's uh an animal house reference.

SPEAKER_01 29:49

So anyway. But that's uh yeah, so events like that. And anyway, I and I you and I'll be able to stuff. I know that's not why you bring that up, but I just wanted to throw that in.

SPEAKER_02 29:59

Well, with you and I go to the scar lounge half the time, you know, uh we hang out with the uh with anybody we'll hang out with. Majority of the time it's usually with uh black folks that are that are there uh because they're the ones that are usually alone or something like that, and we'll invite them or uh you know invite ourselves to sit down with them and yeah, uh then we'll sit there and cut up all night. Tinder box last time we went to Tinder Box.

SPEAKER_01 30:23

That was a great night.

SPEAKER_02 30:24

Great guys. Oh gosh, yeah. He was a shoot, I'm trying to think of his name. Uh he's a performer, he's a country uh music.

SPEAKER_01 30:31

Yeah, and we said his name it wasn't him, but we thought it was him. Yeah, yeah, that's right. And we said it, I can't remember his name now either.

SPEAKER_02 30:38

I've got it, I've got it in my phone. I I apologize because I I'm it I'm blanking on it, but you know, that comes with the territory. Yeah. Uh and it's not you all look the same. Oh anyway. The typical. Yeah. It's crazy. Well, we've we've come up on the uh do you have anything else you want to bring in?

SPEAKER_01 31:00

Yeah, uh local. I was gonna say uh one of my issues uh that uh I don't know if everybody saw, but John Fox Simons has been uh reinstated as city manager, which a lot of people have a problem with. Uh was going around. He's he was voted back, I think it was five to two. Bill McClure and Mark Krua voted against keeping him, from what I've been told. Uh-huh. Uh the others voted for, um, and he was established. Yeah. A lot of people are upset because after COVID or during COVID, they took away beach wheelchair access. Yeah. And uh from what I've been told that by a reliable source, that he didn't, he didn't want to bring it back because it was apparently just basically just too much trouble to deal with. And there's a guy who runs this, uh, I don't know, I mean, maybe a nonprofit, but he runs it where he's got these wheelchairs and he helps out with it. He went to City Council, met and dealt with them before. They're great people. Good guys. Yes. I've never met him. City Council was talking down to him.

SPEAKER_04 31:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:57

And the clip went viral. Well, they were using the clip in North Myrtle Beach and Polly's Island uh as promotions for their beaches.

SPEAKER_02 32:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:05

So they were uh our own city council put out promotion ads unknowingly and not not meant to with this back and forth. So anyway, he offers to give them, I think it was 10 10 beach wheelchairs for free. Yeah. And they just they don't want to do it. So anyway, apparently he was the one that was mostly responsible for that, and there's a lot of ire over what was made out of PVC and literally they're just pipe glue and PVC, but and that you know, they got the big bigger tires and everything. It helps them on the beach.

SPEAKER_02 32:38

So and and and it was great because it was so uh people didn't have to get uh something that was accessible or rent it or anything like that. They would bring it to the resort that they they were staying in. All the resorts were open to it. Uh and then that they would just have it in the lobby, the people would come down, um, you know, shift out of their regular wheelchair into the the beach one, go to the accesses, get out onto the beach, enjoy their day, come back, um, then you know, transport out, and then um, you know, that weekend or or uh shortly thereafter, they they would come and pick it up. And um see, I never even knew uh anything about them. Um I didn't go to the beach much. It was all free and it was great. And and it was just it really did, I guess it attracts the wrong crowd because you know these people weren't out uh you know stiffing the uh the wait staff at the restaurants and um you know turning over tables, uh you know, um yeah, things I I I guess you know that's not the family friendly people that were were really talking about. Backward world. Yeah, along with clown world and pretend world.

SPEAKER_01 33:44

Exactly, exactly. So that I guess there was uh there was some a lot of people didn't like him coming back. So uh yeah. But but Burls and Chapin wanted him, so they they got him back. Yeah. It'll be interesting to see how they handle next bike week if it does uh get get crazy with the new regime we have and uh the uh elevated police, just to see how the city does in in general overall, and him. Because you know, uh it's no big secret that the city manager really runs the place, not counselor, the mayor. It's a lot of it is city manager. Right.

SPEAKER_02 34:16

So we'll see how he does. Well, you know what I would like to do is um I think that they should have complete uh transparency that uh the hours that the city manager is in office, uh that he has to release his vis visitors log and um his phone log uh for every you know, because he's on our dime. And we we should know who he's talking to and for how long. I like that. Yeah, because uh total transparency. Exactly. Because then you'll see who those people are that are trying to uh pull the strings um behind everything that's going on in our government. Yeah. But do you think we'll ever get that? Not not with a five to two vote.

SPEAKER_01 35:01

No, yeah. I keep saying regime, but a regime change. Yeah. I mean it'd have to be a complete. I think a lot of it would have to be the uh the golden mile would have to uh all but go away with their votes. Um and a lot of the uh good old boys who want it to stay the way it is.

SPEAKER_02 35:19

Yeah, we'll we'll have a we should have a citywide vote, but everybody from um Grand Dunes, uh Pine Lakes, and the Golden Mile can't vote. Yeah. Just to see what it would be. Exactly. Yeah, just to see what the people would would vote, not the money.

SPEAKER_01 35:34

That's intriguing. Yeah, like a mock election, just to see. Yeah. Huh. I wonder what that would well we I think we all kind of know what that would show. You can you can see it on social media, exactly what it would be. Yeah. A lot of the Myrtle Beach pages, there's not a whole lot of positive stuff, especially when Brenda was running it. Oh, so I think that shows probably what it would be.

SPEAKER_00 35:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:54

So but it was kind of funny. I mean, I did have the popcorn to watch the uh the elitist insiders go at each other. Um, because then you had the uh the brown betune group versus the old uh establishment elite group. Um because they're like, well, you're robbing our our piggy bank, and we're pissed off.

SPEAKER_01 36:13

And uh are you talking about during the race?

SPEAKER_02 36:15

Uh no, even no, during the administration. Oh, I see. Yeah, the whole time. Oh yeah, yeah. I mean it was just uh they tolerated them at first because everybody was robbing the same, you know, the same piggy bank, but then Brown got a little bit more um thuggish and was taking more than his share that they wanted him to take.

SPEAKER_01 36:36

Thuggish is a good word. Yeah. So that's just my opinion.

SPEAKER_02 36:42

That's uh, you know all opinion base, yeah. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 36:45

Some of it's fact, but this is all opinion. Yeah, wink ign into the microphone.

SPEAKER_02 36:52

Ignore the facts and uh just pretend it's all opinion. Yeah. So we'll go with that. Locally, that I think that's all I have to do.

SPEAKER_03 37:04

With a paper screaming the TV.

SPEAKER_02 37:06

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SPEAKER_03 37:18

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