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SPEAKER_03 2:17

Yeah, we just got done with microphone monkeys.

SPEAKER_04 2:20

And um is this one always on? Uh I had I had it on from it's always on, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 2:27

Last time I didn't turn my microphone on, so that's why I was asking. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 2:31

Go ahead. Uh uh and uh yeah, because we're using it just for the microphone monkeys, so I just left it uh hot. And I I got pretty good levels out of it. So yeah.

SPEAKER_06 2:41

All right.

SPEAKER_04 2:42

Well, fantastic. And uh did you come with some issues today?

SPEAKER_06 2:46

Oh boy, did I. There's so many to choose from anymore that it's it's like shooting fish in a barrel.

SPEAKER_05 2:52

Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_06 2:53

And especially now with social media where everybody's feeds are full of it. Uh TikTok, Instagram, reels, X, as are my areas, threads. Yeah. Where I look at stuff, it's just constant. And I know they say the algorithms like, well, yeah, you know, your algorithm's gonna look like that, that's what you look at. But I didn't I didn't start that. No, it was fed to me at some point.

SPEAKER_04 3:13

No, he he started that. He invented the algorithm.

SPEAKER_06 3:16

Yeah, yeah. The algorithm itself I invented. That's right. Yeah. But yeah, at one point I wasn't looking at uh any type of videos, it was them showing it to me. So um the f I've got a a couple local ones, but I'll start out with the boat kids. I call them the boat kids.

SPEAKER_04 3:31

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 3:32

Uh this Nolan Wells character. Have you seen this story?

SPEAKER_04 3:35

I don't think so.

SPEAKER_06 3:37

Uh young black kid goes boating with three white friends, uh, 4th of July, and he doesn't come back. He's dead. Washed up on shore. I think it was two days later, July 6th. Oh Lord. Washed up on shore.

SPEAKER_04 3:51

That's awful.

SPEAKER_06 3:52

Uh some of the details I've got to check my nose to make sure I'm not missing anything. Happened off the coast of Mississippi, Mississippi. Um, and uh apparently they he didn't have his phone. And the thing is, with this area that they're in, it's eight miles off the coast, a harp island or something like this. There's no zero cell signal.

SPEAKER_05 4:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 4:11

So what probably happened is they all left their phones on the boat. So this kid dies. Uh turns out he was talking to a girl. They all went out and he just got to talking to this girl. And you know how guys are. If you and I go out and I meet a girl at Masters, like I always do, uh-huh, and uh I have enough money and I want to go home, then you say, All right, man, uh we'll see you tomorrow, talk later. That's how guys do things. So that's probably what happened. These young white kids probably said, Oh, he's got a girl with him. Let's, you know, let's he'll he'll catch up. Yeah. Another story is there was the boat was taking on water and they had to get back fast. Uh he wanted to stay with the girl. Regardless, there's a lot of different theories of what happened so far.

SPEAKER_04 4:51

But he's missing and the girl's not.

SPEAKER_06 4:52

Correct. And the girl is cooperating with the police.

SPEAKER_04 4:55

Right.

SPEAKER_06 4:56

They all are, but the three white kids have lawyered up. Which, of course, and I'll explain why in a second. But that's kind of the gist of the story. Long story short, they go out, uh, he didn't come back.

SPEAKER_05 5:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 5:07

Of course, all of social media, all of black social media, and when I say all again, I don't mean every single person, but a large group, are saying that he was the white kids killed him. So far, there is no sign of foul play, yeah. No choking around the neck or anything like this. They're about to do toxicology, which is going to show alcohol. They were all highly drunk.

SPEAKER_05 5:28

Right.

SPEAKER_06 5:28

So it it just gets to me, and I did a video on this the other day. It's like if if black people are so terrified of white people, and they're saying they're saying now don't hang out with white people unless you have another black person.

SPEAKER_04 5:40

Obviously, this is their friend. These guys are probably broken up about it and everything else, uh, about their friend that they were out. Obviously, I mean it's they were friends for a long time. Exactly. Exactly.

SPEAKER_06 5:53

And another thing is with white kids, the one thing you want to be in good with in high school is the black kids because they're the cool ones. They're white cool people too. But they're all they're the track stars, the football stars, the basketball stars. They're usually uh handsome, they're attracted, you know, in shape, and they want to be seen as cool by the black kids. Right. And that's that's fine. There's nothing wrong with that. That's great. So they're not out going around, white people aren't going around killing their black friends. Uh, and that's what they're all saying on social media now. And they've got Ben Crump on as their attorney.

SPEAKER_04 6:24

Oh Lord. Okay.

SPEAKER_06 6:25

Who is involved in George Floyd. He was involved in, I want to say Mike Brown. Uh he's involved in Carmelo, he got in with the family of this. That's right. And now Reverend L. Sharpton has joined the team as well.

SPEAKER_04 6:36

Of course. Of course. Well, you know, part of it too, I guess, uh, is that they have um there they're they're the the the the waters are chummed because you have an affluent uh family that's involved because there's a boat.

SPEAKER_07 6:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 6:54

And so um, you know, it may not be Manhattan affluent, but you know, Mississippi affluent. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 7:01

So it looked like uh uh a well-to-do high school group of kids who got a little money from their parents, as well.

SPEAKER_04 7:09

So uh yeah, they they they they and again that's chumming the waters for these people is crazy.

SPEAKER_06 7:15

Oh, I yeah, I see what you're saying. Yeah, no wonder Ben and Reverend. That's their whole thing. If that all went away, this perceived racism, they'd all be broke.

SPEAKER_05 7:23

Uh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 7:24

So there's some new uh apparently there was one phone call that night. Uh they're not releasing what was said. Um, but and then I guess the girl, uh one of the other stories is the girl left with her parents. So this kid may have tried to swim back uh drunk as a skunk eight miles to the Lord. I'm not laughing at him when you're drunk. I I won't swam all the way across the intercoastal waterway drunk with no life jacket or clothes and it I wish. Yeah, that's farther than it looks. I got about halfway and I'm like, I shouldn't have done this full of Bud Light or at all. Yeah, but I've done it, so I'm not making fun of the kid, but that's that's most likely what happened. It's probably not vigilante white kids. Oh, we're gonna get us another one of these uh blackfailers, and and it's just so stupid. But all of course, all of social media. And you know, I may talk a lot about race, but race is getting a to be a big thing in society now.

SPEAKER_04 8:24

Uh well, especially how they leverage uh social media, aka uh regular media, yeah. Um yeah, to to get these uh narratives that are false narratives out there uh to try to make it seem like it's mainstream, that this is where it's going on, and and every uh uh white household uh is you know secretly having you know meetings of where they're talking about oh, we're so much better than everybody else in the the world. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 8:58

Um you can see that in the way that what's his name who was recently fired. Was it CBS? Uh older older guy, gray hair who's talking about the female producer and how and how they'd listen to me to get the news and all that. Oh yeah, they're they're all that arrogant.

SPEAKER_04 9:15

Yeah, I can't remember his name. I think I think you're right. I think it was CBS. That's uh um yeah, yeah. Yeah, he was so insignificant. I'd never watched him. Yeah, and uh yet he thought he was you know broke off and and people would recognize him or something. But yeah.

SPEAKER_06 9:34

Look at us, can't remember his name.

SPEAKER_04 9:35

Yeah, but he was 60 Minutes, I believe, is the show that he was on.

SPEAKER_06 9:39

It may have yeah, it looks familiar on there.

SPEAKER_04 9:41

Yeah. But uh yeah, that that is crazy. What else you got for me?

SPEAKER_06 9:46

Well, that kind of ties into the girl on the bus, and I think a lot of us will know what this one is. This uh the little black girl, I don't know how old she is, surrounded by Patriot Front on the bus recently on July 4th when they all marched. Yeah. I called them nerds and uh get to that in a second, but feds. That too, but I wonder now. But this girl has a rap sheet, and then there is a video of her. It was blurred, so I can't tell if she was mimicking it or actually doing it, but had her pants down, taking either a dump or a piss on the bus. A different bus, a different K, but they identified her, it is her. She has a rap sheet. They want to make her the next Rosa Parks and build her a statue for skin.

SPEAKER_04 10:28

I can't see Rosa taking a dump on the bus in order to try to sit you know closer to the front.

SPEAKER_06 10:34

Maybe that's what they'll build the statue as that image, and not the one that everybody's saying should be a Pulitzer Prize for the But online they're calling her Rosa farts, which I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_04 10:46

If you don't think that's funny, that's sorry that I think that's funny. Uh ironically funny.

SPEAKER_06 10:52

It has nothing to do with her color, it has to do with her actions. She was taking a dump on a bus or at least mimicking it. So that's funny. So the Patriot front surrounding her. I mean, could you think of a a time where she's ever been more safe? I can tell you where she's not more safe. And I have a I have a story, but I was threatened with two guys with dual-sided knives. I don't tell this story a lot because it's people probably won't believe me.

SPEAKER_05 11:13

Right.

SPEAKER_06 11:13

I was in Harlem with my ex-fiance. I was threatened by two guys on the subway going into Harlem with double, they both had double-sided knives.

SPEAKER_05 11:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 11:21

Looking at me, standing room only, so I'm standing across from them at the door. They said, look at this MF right here, this M MF and white boy right here. This is for 400 years of MF slavery and all that. Had the knives out. Yeah. I was preparing myself. I was unarmed. I'm in New York. Yeah. Her family lived there. That's why we're there. And that's I was preparing to. How am I going to defend off two large guys aggressive, mad at me for my color?

SPEAKER_05 11:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 11:45

Uh with dual-sided knives. Now, this was in 2000 like nine.

SPEAKER_05 11:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 11:49

So way before all this stuff ramped up. So I have personal experience with this. People say I just talk out of my ass and on social media. It's not true. But my point is, can you name a safer time? I can tell you where it wouldn't be is Harlem or the South Bronx or Chicago. She would not have been safer in those areas. She was perfectly fine with this patron front around her.

SPEAKER_04 12:06

Oh, yeah. Yeah. And but the that that photograph they had with her, they have so many memes coming out that are hilarious. Yeah. Absolutely hilarious.

SPEAKER_06 12:16

Let the internet do what it does. It's going to be a good thing. Exactly.

SPEAKER_04 12:18

Exactly. Yeah, whatever they were trying to uh uh gin up has just been reversed by by the populace on on social media.

SPEAKER_06 12:28

It really has. And you know, it's good to see finally.

SPEAKER_04 12:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 12:30

Uh if this was a young girl who was actually threatened, or was, you know, this innocent young lady who may have not known or what didn't have any mental issues. She clearly has a mental issue.

SPEAKER_05 12:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 12:41

Or did, at least at one point. Whatever. That's a whole different story. Right. You know, we feel sorry for this girl. She doesn't know who all these white guys in masks are. You can understand that. Sure. But come on. She she's fine. She was not terrified. I mean, maybe she was, but she's misinformed then. And she wasn't terrified when she went pulling her pants down on the bus.

SPEAKER_05 13:05

Yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_06 13:06

But now she knows. She's learned that if you're surrounded by these extremist, white nationalist white guys around you, you're probably gonna be okay.

SPEAKER_05 13:15

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 13:17

So I get heated about it, but it's it's it's what it's the constant bashing of white people, constantly anymore. They tear this and that, but they say nothing about Irina Zerensky. They say nothing about uh the uh the um another woman was just uh she this girl was an ice advocate. She had a uh what was he, Iranian or not Iranian, uh uh some it was a Muslim.

SPEAKER_04 13:41

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 13:41

But he moved he went to where she was. I forget which country, too. I should have written that down. Um, and then she's making TikToks, F ice, and get you a man like this, and this is what real love looks like on their videos and all. He stabs the shit out of her, she's dead.

SPEAKER_04 13:56

Well, they're they're yeah.

SPEAKER_06 13:58

Everybody's vilified, and white people also are coming in defense saying how bad white people are, like this girl. Oh yeah, look at her.

SPEAKER_04 14:05

Yeah, yeah. Uh yeah. I was watching uh something the other day, and somebody was talking about the um uh the curse of the liberal white women. Yeah, yeah, and and um some of the interviews, the clips that they had, the things that came out of these women's mouths, it was just like what are you thinking by saying these things? Yeah, it's that it's it's like yeah, the reason why you should stab and kill me when I walk out of the studio is blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, I get I I just don't think they'd listen to themselves. Or they think that because they see say that, that they all of a sudden have this veil of uh of security now. Um, that um, well, I'm for you, therefore that you're not gonna hurt me. That's not true at all. I mean, we all know that.

SPEAKER_06 14:56

Well, you saw that in BLM when those the college kids were on that second floor apartment and they were holding, you know, we're for you, we're for you. Yeah. Next thing you know, here comes incoming rocks thrown through the glass. They're yelling, we're on your side, we're on your side they don't care. They don't and I by they I mean the that those radicals, what those radicals, we'll put it that way. Right. And not black people.

SPEAKER_05 15:18

No.

SPEAKER_06 15:19

Again, yeah, not all blacks. Uh, but when I say those people, they don't they just don't care.

SPEAKER_05 15:23

Oh yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 15:24

So you're yeah, you're right. They don't they and they think I guess virtue signaling points is still the only other thing I can think. If people hear you say, I'm terrible and you're great, let's build you a monument, then what what does that get you now?

SPEAKER_04 15:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 15:38

Nothing.

SPEAKER_04 15:38

Well the other the other thing too that I I think is kind of hilarious and misinformed is the uh these people that were empowered by the Antifas that were out there. And in Tex Texas, excuse me, they're learning a valuable lesson and they no longer have whatever protections they thought they had. Um the the police are coming after them. Yeah, and they're sitting there with the the full regalia, they have um what do you want to call it? The uh bullet proof vests. They're they're armed now. Most of them are armed with actual guns and pistols. And um but it's legal for them. I you know, Second Amendment, you can do that. Uh but the problem is when they're getting arrested, they try going for their gun. And I'm like, that has got to be the dumbest thing in the world. Usually, you know, even if you're you're you're you're just a regular carrier, you know to, okay, I'm gonna get this out, I'm gonna have it, you know, barrel to the back, I'm gonna have the the st the uh the stock toward toward them. I'm gonna you know, show them I can't shoot this, I'm gonna surrender the weapon and and everything else. No, these idiots were you know trying to grab their their own.

SPEAKER_06 16:57

What are they thinking? It's like when you run from the police. What do you think is gonna happen?

SPEAKER_04 17:01

And this is this is after after they they pepper sprayed innocent people on the street uh because they were prot counter protesting. And they thought that oh well nobody's gonna go after us from this, or they can't identify us because we're all dressed in black and overweight uh or something. Yeah. And um Oh, I could join. Uh yeah. I'm already qualified. So if you're from Antifa, you've got a new recruit right here.

SPEAKER_06 17:33

I'm one of you.

SPEAKER_04 17:34

He'll even put on some eyeshadow to just go on.

SPEAKER_06 17:38

I'm also gonna have the half of my brain removed. That's another prerequisite prerequisite. See, I can't recall it.

SPEAKER_04 17:44

Just have a couple cans of Rebel Rabbit.

SPEAKER_06 17:49

I think that was cool.

SPEAKER_04 17:50

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 17:51

Natural. Uh and then so uh with Patriot Front, it ties into because they were on the bus. Uh Leonardo Jamie, do you know who she is?

SPEAKER_04 18:00

I've yes, yes, she's hilarious.

SPEAKER_06 18:02

She's absolutely racist and hilarious.

SPEAKER_04 18:04

Absolutely hilarious. Uh she's a comedian, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 18:06

Yeah, Jesse Lee Peterson had her on. Yeah, he's got by the way, the probably the funniest commentator, and he's full black. And he you know I'm talking about. Yep. And he is, I mean, if you haven't seen Jesse Lee Peterson, look him up on YouTube. Absolutely hilarious. And he's been around a long time, but he she was on. Uh separate thing, but she posted a video of the the the leader of the Patriot Front. And I almost thought it was AI or like colorized video from a long time ago.

SPEAKER_05 18:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 18:36

But it was it was new. And I listened to the whole thing because I'm like, I don't want to hear, you know, these are feds or whatever. Right. Where do they get the money to all dress like that and the same hats and the exact same mask on whatever. But I listened to the guy talking, and even Leonardo says, she says there's no way feds talk like that. And if I I wish I could play his whole speech here, but it's only like seven minutes. But I agreed with a lot of it.

SPEAKER_05 18:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 18:58

It was talking about returning America. It's just what conservatism is. Yeah. In in its original glory days. Right. It's not extreme. He did a little bit of extremist talking about who he doesn't want in the country as kind of a blanket statement thing, which I'm not all I'm I want, I want immigrants here. I I'm glad Verner's here with uh Cafe Old Vienna. Yeah. And he did it the right way, his whole thing. And he loves it, and he doesn't like the ones who break the law either. Yeah. But I want immigrants here. So there's a lot of people.

SPEAKER_04 19:26

So, Werner, we are going to be coming in August uh to Cafe Old Vienna. We we actually had two two dates that we're going to, and we both had uh things come up and uh and get out there. So prepare your taps. Yeah. And uh oh. Okay, now we're back. Yeah. If you're in Myrtle Beach and you're visiting, you've got to go and visit Cafe Old Vienna down on about 14th Avenue in uh in Myrtle Beach, and it is absolutely delicious.

SPEAKER_06 19:58

Very good.

SPEAKER_04 19:59

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_06 19:59

Yeah, he's uh one of my especially since Bodo's is gone. They were equal, equal plane to me, but yeah.

SPEAKER_04 20:07

Oh, you and you and I used to have these hilarious conversations with Oxel. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 20:10

Oh man, it was fun.

SPEAKER_04 20:12

Yeah, well it's it was crazy.

SPEAKER_06 20:14

Everybody at Myrtle Beach knows Bodo's on their Facebook if somebody like Myrtle Beach history or somebody posts about. I mean the stories are oh yeah, thread is like goes on forever.

SPEAKER_05 20:23

I love to see yep.

SPEAKER_06 20:24

But uh, so yeah, so I I I agree with what he said, and I don't think they're feds anymore. I don't from that at least.

SPEAKER_05 20:31

All right.

SPEAKER_06 20:32

I don't know where they organize like that and get all the same gear and all this, but uh anyway, if you get a chance, Leonardo Jamie's ex or just look up his speech, it wasn't as radical as they're making them out to be. It wasn't nearly as white nationalist as they're being made out to be. So I I would recommend checking it out. Like I said, it doesn't mean I'm a Patriot front guy. I never paid attention to the guys because I thought it was goofy until she posted that. And after July 4th, I was like, well, let me hear what this guy has to say. Well spoken, not scripted, yeah. Seven minutes straight, just laying out what they think. I think I thought it was cool. But again, it's not an endorsement, but he had some good points. So that's the next thing I'll be mad after. That's right. I'm after it. Uh some good news in South Carolina. I think is good news, at least.

SPEAKER_05 21:25

All right.

SPEAKER_06 21:25

Uh SC DOT DOT is making some changes. Um Master signed a bill to improve 40,000 miles of roads.

SPEAKER_04 21:34

I'll say, I'll say I think I think we need some roads, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 21:37

Uh uh.

SPEAKER_05 21:38

Boy, boy, are you paying attention to me, boy?

SPEAKER_06 21:40

I wish he would come out like that. Just as a goofy. Uh so the State Transportation Commission is no longer uh in charge. They're replaced by a transportation secretary. So it's one person making the go-aheads, uh, as opposed to the federal highway administration who always has to have a say before anything can be checked off. Right. So we're getting rid of the these uh uh what do you call them? Uh the community appearance, these boards. Boards, well, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 22:08

Here just for people to understand, in in South Carolina, unfortunately, that they they always wanted to build things with other other people's money. But we've got enough tax base here in South Carolina to build our own roads. Yeah. Now, um when I ran for government here, uh this is a lark.

SPEAKER_06 22:25

Uh uh run again, please.

SPEAKER_04 22:27

Yeah, okay. But uh I'd point out they they asked me about that highway 73 or whatever it was that that fallacy highway.

SPEAKER_06 22:37

Um I don't think I even heard of that one.

SPEAKER_04 22:39

Well, they they said that it was gonna be a US highway that they were they were buying land up and everything else. It was supposed to come to Myrtle Beach and and go out, you know, and it was gonna be you know a US government highway. I said that's not how they build build highways. That's not how it's passed. And I said it it so you know whether somebody supports it or not, it doesn't exist and it never will. Yeah. So don't You know, don't keep promoting this. If you absolutely then they were like, Well, what do you think about you know getting more tourists in here, getting the traffic in and getting out during hurricanes? I said that we could we could build SC South Carolina superhighways, and we don't have to worry about federal anything. We can get it done faster.

SPEAKER_06 23:27

So you were telling them this already before a long time, a long time ago.

SPEAKER_04 23:31

And they they just kind of like well, you know, our we're part of the realtors, you know, organization. We think you're ridiculous. Yeah. And um, and I was just like, you're not gonna get more people in here. You're just all you're doing is uh wasting money, and yes, you people are doing land speculation on something that doesn't exist. So um that was ridiculous. But yes, uh there the way they they had it going is that they just kept going and approaching all of our uh highway structures um to be co-sponsored with federal government, and you don't need to do that, and it slows things down, yeah. And so and the reason why, and if people don't understand, the federal government does their their highway stuff based on um manufacturing and distribution. So if you've got, say, for instance, a giant uh manufacturing facility, or several of them, uh you have to have highway structures to get these uh these um trucks to come in, you know, semi-trailers, and get them loaded up and get them out faster, you know, so we can get that distributed through the country. The sub part to it was that we were moving our military that way too. And that's why we built the US highway system. But those rules are still in effect. But when you have great populations of people like we have in this area, uh and you don't have a lot of businesses and stuff, but you do want to move them out and so on, then it it's state, you know, that comes into the part of the state, and the state has to do it. But the I mean it's great now that we've got this to that we could build these things. Now if we could get people in this state to understand that uh the best time to start doing construction is during um the uh early fall on through the uh late spring, um and then avoid the summer.

SPEAKER_06 25:38

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_04 25:39

That probably would be a lot smarter. But we don't do that.

SPEAKER_06 25:42

Have you been uh heading to Conway lately?

SPEAKER_04 25:44

Uh yeah, yeah. I mean it's just why they start all these construction projects, especially here in July, August, uh September, you know, uh uh right when it's our economic tourist season is ridiculous.

SPEAKER_06 26:03

Well, and then I don't I don't understand it either because the people who make these decisions, at least locally, I may be wrong because it may not not be a local call, they have to use the roads too.

SPEAKER_04 26:13

Right.

SPEAKER_06 26:13

But then also the construction workers are out and they've usually got to wear pants and OSHA you know required equipment. Uh burning up sweating. Why do they do it in the summers?

SPEAKER_04 26:23

No. And then then when I was living in Florida, I was always amazed how smart they were. They would do their construction in the evening.

SPEAKER_06 26:32

Yeah, I've seen that. All night.

SPEAKER_04 26:34

Yeah, they would have these bright lights and and the traffic is low, temperature is low, and it's more comfortable and more safe for the people who are doing the construction.

SPEAKER_06 26:44

Yeah, and most big cities are like that.

SPEAKER_04 26:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 26:46

And we are a big city, we're just spread out, not tall.

SPEAKER_04 26:48

Now, another problem that we had with South Carolina is that uh they want to do they want to spend the money at the peak times that we're making the money. That again is stupid.

SPEAKER_07 26:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 27:00

Uh just, you know, don't say, oh, well, we have to wait until all the tourists are here. Again, they're wanting to use other people's money to do all their their expenditures. Just you're gonna collect it anyway. It it sits in the bank. Go and spend it at a better time for when things are going out. So uh don't use that old excuse anymore and start growing up, putting on your big boy pants and acting like the rest of the just because somebody says, Well, that's not how we do it, you know, outside of South Carolina, don't take that as an offense. Say, oh gosh, uh that might not be the best way to do it in South Carolina, but tell me about it. Maybe this is something we can adopt. Right, yeah, why wouldn't it? Automatically reject it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 27:47

Sounds it sounds like us, though.

SPEAKER_04 27:50

Uh yeah, more, more.

SPEAKER_06 27:52

So with that with that being uh I should also mention they were talking about uh maybe adding toll lanes or future uh future choice in growing areas. But with everything I read off there, what do you think of this? I guess it's already happening. Yeah. Does this all sound kosher to you?

SPEAKER_04 28:08

It does, and it and but they're the only way they're going to do it is if they it sounds like if they if they have the tolls. They want those tolls. And um again, uh if you want to chase people away from uh your municipality, a great way to do it is put up tolls and restrictions.

SPEAKER_06 28:26

Yeah, but in North Carolina they do it, for example, and it it seems to work, I guess. And that's kind of where they modeled it.

SPEAKER_04 28:32

It they modeled it but incorrectly because the the the the tolls are in the the uh in the um tri-metro area. Yeah. And so you've got all these universities, hospitals, research centers, and all these things that people have to get into and and and get out. They actually were trying to restrict some of the the uh flow of traffic, and they also had a lot of things that they had to expand on the things. So putting up the tolls that makes sense. Yeah, it makes sense. Um even though I still think it's better not to have tolls. I do too, but yeah, but I was curious but much about rich but if you've got uh if you say, Oh, well, you know, Myrtle Beach is crowded and so on, so let's put up tolls and reduce the amount of tourists we have, that'll probably work. We'll have a reduced amount of tourists, and then um people will start moving out because they'll find out that we don't have as many restaurants that will be open uh or food places, they'll shut down you know venues and things like that.

SPEAKER_06 29:43

I don't want that part, but I'm all for everybody getting the hell out of here. I want this to be a 1974 Myrtle Beach.

SPEAKER_04 29:51

Oh believe me.

SPEAKER_06 29:53

The picture that my dad took, I posted recently on top of the 501 bridge before boat house, before Holiday Inn, before the pottery was there, but it was like nobody, middle of the day, nobody all the way down as far as you can see on 501 going toward Conway, not a single car. I I remember those were the good days.

SPEAKER_04 30:11

I remember being here in the uh late 70s, early 80s, and trying to help out the places around here. Uh, and I had to get hardware and things like that. You had to go to Conway to get hardware or or Ayner to get my mother talks about that too. Yeah, yeah. And but it wasn't that big a deal.

SPEAKER_06 30:32

I shouldn't say 70, I should say uh late 90s. Yeah, where everything were here, yeah, but less people. Oh yeah. I'm just not a people guy anyway.

SPEAKER_04 30:40

Yeah. But I uh I I still I I blame all the the uh the creep of uh power and restrictions and uh you know all the things that were supposed to quote help and preserve, they didn't help and preserve anything when they put those rules and regulations up and so on from city council, city council to county council. Oh yeah. Uh all it did was it uh it increased the amount of uh problems that we've had.

SPEAKER_06 31:12

Oh, for sure.

SPEAKER_04 31:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 31:13

But uh what is it like they say the government creates the problem to fix it or whatever?

SPEAKER_04 31:19

And then I really said that exactly how the exact phrase well uh it it's just unintended consequences are like 90% of anything that they they vote on and pass. We have a problem with uh say we have a problem with mosquitoes. So we've come up with a solution, we're gonna pass it, and what happens? You have more mosquitoes, yeah, and you spent thousands of dollars. And uh, but then you know, Uncle Walt from one of the people on the board uh who has the mosquito pest control business is now driving a Cadillac.

SPEAKER_06 31:54

Turn to find turn uh come to find out, that's usually how it turns out is if somebody's behind there. We were talking on the phone about that before. Yeah, same with uh Martina, she and I were talking about that. Yeah, that's all that's almost always the case. You find out there's somebody behind the scenes that was getting money off of it or a group or whatever.

SPEAKER_04 32:11

G-O-B. Good old boys, yeah. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_06 32:14

Well, speaking of sticking to local, I'll skip over my last one. Uh but we talk about these Apache pilots. You I take you heard eight of them were suspended.

SPEAKER_04 32:23

Yeah. Well, what are the details on that?

SPEAKER_06 32:28

Excuse me. They said it was for uh what I've heard reported was for flying too close to the shoreline. Now I don't know if that means in or low, but the video looked like both. And okay, these are military pilots that are capable of that. I understand if something went wrong with the with the aircraft, if it's no longer airworthy and it goes down and it hits a bunch of people on the beach. But it's the Fourth of July. You know, it's minuscule, especially with government aircraft.

SPEAKER_05 32:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 32:59

So I I think it was ridiculous. But anyway, uh somebody put up a flyer, said call McMaster, and I was gonna read his number, but no need now. The Secretary of War has reversed it and um given them all their they're all airworthy again. Yeah. All eight pilots. Because it all was took about three days to three or four days again.

SPEAKER_04 33:16

All was is a a part of celebration. I mean, you want to see them up close anyway. How cool is it to see it up close while it's in operation? Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 33:24

Well, and then when we used to have the air show, our proper air show, before it was just like two Cessna sitting there and you could walk around them. Yeah. We used to have the Thunderbirds, they would do one where one of them would sneak off formation, be gone for like 10 minutes, and then come behind you at low, I mean talking treetop with the afterburner on and scare the hell out of everybody from behind.

SPEAKER_05 33:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 33:44

The same flight level.

SPEAKER_05 33:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 33:46

Let's say that Thunderbird uh something goes wrong on its approach, plows in, and that's gonna explode. I mean, a massive fireball.

SPEAKER_05 33:53

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 33:54

So the is I don't know. I don't know. That's what I heard the reason was to too close to the coast, but it could be something different. I don't know. Either way, they're all flying again.

SPEAKER_04 34:03

Overreaction. Yeah. Overreaction from from people. Yeah. Um we're gonna protect you from something that's not gonna happen, but it could have.

SPEAKER_06 34:10

Yeah. And I guess maybe it was some people complaining, some Karen's. I hate that term because I'm like Gavin McKinnon. I love Karen's. Um, except for when it comes to stuff like this. But I want women going around, and if somebody's doing something they shouldn't be doing, I'm want them to go up to them and say, You can't grill in this park. It says no grilling, right there on the sign, you can't do that, or you can't have a dog. I want that. Yeah, it's returned back to doing things, following the rules. Yeah, but Karen's like this. Apparently, maybe some were complaining and that they got to the Coast Guard or whoever runs that. I don't know. But they're they're all back in the air.

SPEAKER_04 34:44

So wild, wild. Well, uh, what do you think about uh they have not come out and like they usually do for the Fourth of July and say that how what our record crowds were here in Myrtle Beach. Why do you think that is?

SPEAKER_06 35:01

I haven't thought about it.

SPEAKER_04 35:02

I think tourism was down.

SPEAKER_06 35:04

Oh, for the okay.

SPEAKER_04 35:05

I I I when I the actual day of the Fourth of July, uh traffic wasn't that bad. Um I could find parking space at uh at the beaches.

SPEAKER_06 35:17

Well, I was gonna say I didn't go out that day, but my cousins went to my aunt's house in Conway and they said the same. Yeah. Clear all the way there and all the way back. Beach to Conway. Yeah. That's unheard of. I'm not sure. I just remembered that when you said it.

SPEAKER_04 35:30

Yeah, yeah. So I think the reason why the the I think they're they're being quiet is speaking loud volumes of they didn't have it. Plus, I uh I had to really dig to find out if all of the old uh venues for fireworks were having fireworks. It used to be a in Myrtle Beach a big competition um for who would try to attract more and more people for their firework events. This time they didn't have any advertising anywhere.

SPEAKER_06 36:08

The only one I heard was on Liz's show. She was listing some of them off. Yeah. Um, some of them were canceled, maybe because of the drought, I forget. But yeah, there wasn't I didn't see many flyers or especially on social media. I didn't at least.

SPEAKER_04 36:21

No, no. There was there, you know, because I had somebody that said, Where where's the big event going on this this year? And you know, I I knew that the the uh Pelicans again were gonna have it after their game, and they're gonna have it at Broadway, they're gonna have it, you know, down at 2nd Avenue and stuff like that. But sure, the inlet had it, you know, the basic, like, you know, the basic places, but nobody nobody seemed to have any um a bunch of places that were advertising, you know, come eat here and and um watch the fireworks from our, you know, like bums used to have this huge thing uh for people to you know uh eat and then you know watch them you know be fired off and stuff like that. I didn't know that. I love bums. Yeah. Uh because you know if they've got that big um outdoor eating area on the beach going to the beach, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 37:13

Huh. And uh I I wonder why then.

SPEAKER_04 37:16

Yeah. Of course I'm probably dating myself with bums, but yeah.

SPEAKER_06 37:20

I wonder how long that place has been there. That's a minute stay.

SPEAKER_04 37:23

That's true. Yeah, that's it's been there for for for a minute, as they say. As the kids say.

SPEAKER_06 37:28

Well, yeah. I'm 25 years removed. No, 30 years removed from that now.

SPEAKER_05 37:34

Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_06 37:35

Uh well, the only other thing I had left was not local, but now they want to uh they call it they're calling it black English. So the Democrats want to introduce, I guess it's like ibonics. Yeah, uh coming back. I remember in the 90s. Oh, yeah. Uh, but now they want to teach black English. They're calling it black English, not me. Yeah. Um they're saying things like we don't want our kids' voices devalued when they walk into a room.

SPEAKER_04 38:01

And I'm like, Here's my question.

SPEAKER_06 38:04

Why don't you just teach them proper English? It's fine if you want to use a certain vernacular or whatever it is. Like if I go in a job interview talking like this, I'm probably not gonna get a job or upscale, you know. Yeah, but I can do both. There's nothing wrong with using black English. I do sometimes because some of it's it's just kind of fun as a sling.

SPEAKER_04 38:22

But well, here's the the deal for that I think is so confusing. Um the the the color of their skin did not alter their their language. Right. It's uh it's it's it's urban uh it's ebonyx because it's urban English. I mean, it's just right there in the the cities. But even then, if you've got somebody that's speaking uh LA urban to someone who's New York urban, they don't they don't know each other's slang at all. Right. And they don't understand each other and everything else. How the heck do you teach that? Now here's the other question I have is you call black English. I think the people in Great Britain, if you see black man in Great Britain, they sound like they are just a Brit.

SPEAKER_06 39:13

Yeah. Yeah. That's a good great point. And they didn't they didn't gain any they didn't get any. Now they use may use certain words, but the the dialect is the it's not half cut off. And for some reason they love like period turns into period. It's a hard stop on some of the ends of these words. I can't figure out why. But like you were saying, yes.

SPEAKER_04 39:30

Or ask is axe.

SPEAKER_06 39:31

Axe is all yeah.

SPEAKER_04 39:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 39:32

Um again, if you library if you can use the different ambulance. Ambalance. You can you if you know the difference and you can use both, that's fine. But when you get in a job interview, if you can turn that off, yeah, what you've got to.

SPEAKER_04 39:54

So they should that it should not happen at all. Right. If it's not proper English, don't teach it. Right. I mean, I I speak a uh a well, for lack of a word, bastardized form of German, because I've never had a German class in my life. I speak what uh you know a lot of people uh called uh uh Deutschlisch, which is just uh people that came from the old country that uh speak a little bit of German and then crunch it in with your English. Yeah. And um, yeah, so I mean I can understand a little bit more German than other people can, and maybe can speak a few short phrases uh better, but when it comes to longer uh things, not as much. Yeah. Um I also um I also speak better French Canadian than I speak French French. Because French Canadian is more like old French than uh modern French is spoken France. And uh again, it's just because it is a cutoff. Now I I also heard that the uh uh the American accent um is a derivation of the classic English accent and that the the British change of uh their tonality happened after um uh 17 I guess it was 1790, almost 1800s.

SPEAKER_06 41:36

So uh to me that's a short time.

SPEAKER_04 41:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 41:40

Um so I wonder what I wonder what changed it. Because I'm always interested that, but I've never taken the time to look it up. I wonder what why would why it changed. Now uh people are gonna say, well, you're just saying that about English and you know the old English. Yeah, you can even talk about that or the British dialect. This is this is a this is a we're still using the same words and they're still spelled the same and pronounced the same, just with a different uh accent.

SPEAKER_05 42:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 42:06

This we're talking about with black English is a totally different language. And you could say it's like Creole too, or what's the uh the Charleston uh oh uh uh is it it's not Creole.

SPEAKER_04 42:16

No, it's uh oh shoot. Basket weaving. Come on, yeah, dude. Um I know what you're talking about, and I can't I can't think of it right now.

SPEAKER_06 42:24

Yeah, most a lot of people probably know what I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_04 42:26

Yeah, they're starting down we'll be kicking ourselves after this podcast because we we've we've we pass it all the time, we see it all the time, we see it at the museums and and the museum, that's what I was gonna say.

SPEAKER_06 42:37

That's that's it has a place. Yeah, it doesn't mean it's bad, no or but you've got to be able to turn that off and speak and communicate in the way that the the the mass does. Yeah, and then with this, they're they're calling it I gotta make sure I got this right, they're calling it uh the racism of hierarchy of language. That's the big thing, is that it's racist to want to ask these young black kids to speak with proper English. You mean act. And yeah, act. And and white kids pick it up too. You know, we've all seen Malibu's most wanted. Yeah. Uh so it's there are some, but just anyway, as a big fan of vocabulary in the English language and the amount of words that we have that we never use, I'm I'm I'm fascinated with it. I love it.

SPEAKER_05 43:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 43:24

And to see it bastardized and brought down instead of either leveled, don't don't make life harder for these kids.

SPEAKER_05 43:30

No.

SPEAKER_06 43:31

You know, it's it's and that's all it's gonna do. It it is.

SPEAKER_04 43:34

Yeah, yeah. Um you know, don't don't standardize anything, just make it uh so that it can just be misunderstood universally.

SPEAKER_06 43:43

Right.

SPEAKER_04 43:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 43:44

And then you create a bigger divide. Yeah, like I I keep bringing up job interviews or or or whatever, but you know, the news. A good example. For news, you have to have uh what's called non-regional dictation. Yeah, that's why they all they all sound like that. I hate it. I can't stand it with it. And they all do it.

SPEAKER_05 44:01

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 44:01

But that's you know, that's a good example of where you need it. Why do they do that? Because they need to the most people to understand what they're saying. I had to take I had takes a lot of opportunities away.

SPEAKER_04 44:11

I had to take a course in college uh because uh I was uh majoring in communication arts with strength and radio. I had to take a non, you know, whatever you call it, accredited course actual take it uh to um in diction.

SPEAKER_06 44:31

Diction, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 44:32

Because I had I had my addiction was horrible because I had a and I slip back into it every once in a while. I have this horrible southern Wisconsin accent and it was just uh every other sentence I would end with you know. And I it it was so bad when I was listening to recordings, you know, you know. I'd have a a a double you know going in there, and you know, if you throw in the bubbler. Everything else we would go with it. One of my worst traits for doing it is the uh just did it right there. Yeah. And just right there. In order to prevent myself from using horrible addictives, I hesitate and then I fill it because I don't like that dead air with the ah and so on. So it's it's it's difficult. It really is. It is for me. I have to concentrate if I'm trying to do a real radio voice with no yeah.

SPEAKER_06 45:55

But you can tell when you do it on the intros and outros of all the podcasts on the network, there always there is none of that. And those are off the cuff that aren't scripted when you're saying them. So you you know how to do it. And it's that's really effective not to have those in storytelling, the uhs and ahs and all this, which I'm I'm a terrible storyteller, but um yeah, that's but I think in conversation like this it's it's different. But in your in your closings and openings, they're not there.

SPEAKER_04 46:21

Yeah. And if you think about it, the ums and ahs that we have in there, those those audible pauses, as I call them, are because you're trying to correct what's going from your your brain um into your what is coming out of your mouth. And so it gives me a little extra time to not say something to get me canceled. Exactly. But uh I don't like when they have a a reticence for people to think before they speak, and that seems like what their battle cry is. Don't make me sp think about how I'm saying it, what I'm saying, or anything else. And it's it's ridiculous. It really is.

SPEAKER_06 47:11

And it's such a limited language, but and then again, with uh almost everybody has a we use about that much of our language along with that much of our brain.

SPEAKER_04 47:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 47:20

So that's what they say, and that turned out not to be true. With the language, it is. Yeah. But so to lower that even further for you know, and you can't blame them because in the culture that that's prevalent. They're it's like a conveyor belt just keep churning out more, and their parents talk that way, they talk that way, they're never corrected. And you know, probably for the last time I'm gonna say this. Again, nothing wrong with it in certain it has its place. It's fine if you're with your family, you're not making a video or you know, whatever. But if you don't know how to turn it off, you're going to have a problem in life. Period. Period. Period. Yeah. I can't even do it right. But anyway, but yeah, that's it.

SPEAKER_04 48:04

Or when they do the over pronunciation to make a point.

SPEAKER_06 48:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 48:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 48:12

Half the time the words aren't even it's not even the right word. Yeah. Jasmine Crockett does it. And she's well, maybe I'm just prove me wrong. She can be in the well, she's senator house. She's a rapper. She's a senator. She's a senator, yeah. You can be you too can be a U.S. senator using what I guess you would call black English now.

SPEAKER_04 48:35

Uh that's not how she got elected originally, though.

SPEAKER_06 48:38

Yeah. Well, uh, she sounded like a Harvard grad. Yeah, I forgot about that. That's right.

SPEAKER_04 48:43

And then she just flipped it.

SPEAKER_06 48:45

So I take that off. Everything I just said. Uh correcting myself, I'm gonna go back. I take that back. What I said originally is true. That's right, she did. She's on video and she's a whole different woman. It's a uh it's an intelligent person in a jasmine suit. That's right.

SPEAKER_04 49:00

Or or or you could do Hillary Clinton and change your uh your accent throughout the country.

SPEAKER_06 49:07

AOC did it too. Listen, listen. When she was in a town hall meeting with the gym, listen. I could see her in Chinatown.

SPEAKER_00 49:16

Hey, stop it, stop it.

SPEAKER_04 49:22

This should be now.

SPEAKER_06 49:26

You have a nice nail. Oh no. Trying to Okay, we're back again.

SPEAKER_04 49:31

Well, anyway, that's wrapping up, but unless I didn't mean to no, nope, I I don't have anything uh big uh for this week, but next week we should have some fun. And our idea is that this little thing right here, the the monitor, we're gonna have our uh our studio line, and so we'll allow people to uh call in. Uh we probably won't be able to hear them live with the call in, but uh yeah, we'll we'll we'll work that out.

SPEAKER_06 50:02

Yeah, because you you can normally you can hear them live. You have a way to hear them live when you're in.

SPEAKER_04 50:08

When when the it records here, and you and I can hear it in the cans and everything else. Oh, and I can it comes through our uh cell phone to to right here, but the only problem is I don't know how I can get it to that guy right there.

SPEAKER_06 50:20

Yeah, we can figure that out. All right.

SPEAKER_04 50:22

Real good, folks. Uh this has been Trip and Graham Have Issues. We hope to see you again next week. Bye. Goodbye.

SPEAKER_00 50:44

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