High Five Energy Founders
Host Jeffrey Chernick, a serial entrepreneur and investor, sits down with the world's top founders to unpack how they build, scale, and think. Featuring legendary entrepreneurs behind $200B+ in exits and IPOs—from Google AdSense to Prodege, Kiva to Telesign. Each episode reveals the pivots, failures, and mindset shifts behind iconic companies. Discover High Five Energy: the magnetic flow state where doors open, the right people show up, and opportunities align. Tools and inspiration for entrepreneurs at every stage. New episodes weekly.
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High Five Energy Founders
Raised $1.5B by Listening, Not Pitching (16x Founder)
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Eric Pulier, 16x founder who has raised over $1.5 billion, reveals: He didn't pitch his way to $1.5B — he listened. The most successful companies don't come from brilliant innovation. They come from conversations with people who have real problems. From being named one of the Wall Street Journal's "Top 20 Money Losers in America" to fighting the DOJ, SEC, and NSA simultaneously, Eric shares the mindset shifts that turned catastrophic failure into serial entrepreneurship.
THE REAL STORY: At rock bottom, Eric's marriage ended. He lost more money than he had. He was raising four kids — three not yet potty trained — while trying to rebuild from scratch. He'd wake at 4am, swim in pitch-black ocean, then go to the parking lot and cry before going back inside to keep building. "If I'm gonna spend this much energy feeling sorry for myself, I could put that same energy into joy and play." That mindset shift changed everything.
WHAT YOU'LL LEARN:
- Why the most successful companies come from conversations, not "aha moments"
- How to collaborate with people who have real problems (and get them to pay you to solve it)
- The pivot from victim to creator — turning depression into creativity
- Why Eric believes AGI is 18 months away and what that means for founders
- How he fought the DOJ, SEC, and NSA for 5 years — and won on every count
- "Ship baby ship" — why getting off PowerPoint has never been more important
- The difference between pitching for acceptance vs. expressing with certainty
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Introduction to Eric's Journey
03:20 Innovative Business Models
04:31 The Rise of Digital Evolution
05:49 Navigating the Internet Boom
08:59 Lessons from Open Source and APIs
09:24 The Future of Cloud and Hybrid Solutions
09:56 Personal Reflections and High Five Energy
17:29 The Vision for Digital Identity and Tokenization
22:22 Facing Financial and Personal Turmoil
25:10 Building New Ventures
26:03 Controversy and Legal Battles
27:49 Emerging Victorious
30:17 Reflections on Identity and Purpose
35:29 The Impact of AI on Entrepreneurship
43:39 Conscious Entrepreneurship
45:22 Advice for Aspiring Entrepreneurs
ABOUT ERIC PULIER:
16x founder. $1.5B+ raised. Built companies across every major tech wave from web browsers to cloud to blockchain to AI. Acquired by VMware, salesforce, and others. Creator of one of the first NFTs. Currently building at the intersection of AI, tokenization, and self-sovereign identity.
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ABOUT THE HOST:
Jeffrey Chernick is Managing Partner at Yellow Visor Ventures, and author of High Five Energy. He's a 3x founder (RideAmigos, Vyng - 20M+ downloads) with 20+ years building companies. Featured in TechCrunch, Forbes, NBC, LA Times.
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