Part 2 of Soph - clench those bum cheeks girls

This week on The Aisle Diaries Podcast, Joella continues her deep dive into the world of bridal beauty as she puts wedding makeup artist Sophie firmly in the hot seat.

From wedding morning chaos and difficult bridesmaids to makeup longevity, emotional brides, and beauty emergencies, we're uncovering what really happens behind the scenes of a wedding day.

In this episode, we discuss:

✨ How often brides change their makeup vision between the trial and wedding day
✨ The biggest misconceptions about professional bridal makeup
✨ Why natural makeup can actually be harder to achieve than full glam
✨ How makeup artists help brides feel confident in their wedding look
✨ The difference between photo-ready makeup and real-life makeup
✨ Dealing with opinionated bridesmaids and family members
✨ Last-minute wedding day changes and beauty requests
✨ The signs a wedding morning timeline is about to go off track
✨ Waterproof makeup, touch-up kits, and longevity tips for emotional brides

Plus, Sophie shares the incredible story of covering a severe facial bruise for a Mother of the Bride just days before a wedding, explains why bridal makeup costs more than a standard appointment, and reveals what every bride should keep in her handbag on the big day.

Whether you're planning your wedding, searching for bridal beauty advice, or simply love hearing what really happens behind the scenes of weddings, this episode is packed with expert insight and honest conversation.

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Transcript

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Welcome to the IOL Diaries Podcast, the place where you find out what really happens behind the chaos and confetti. Because someone's got to tell you the truth. And it's never boring. With tips for your big day, I'm Sophie. And I'm Joella. Hello, hello, hello, hello, hello. You, you, you, you, you. Trying to get comfy. You comfy? Yeah, my jumper's a bit like. crusty. Any more coughing fit? I don't think so. I'll just spray some throat spray to try and um stop myself from coughing, so do apologise, guys. Shock horror. Nursery germs. Nursery germs are forever in Joella's household. Oh, big time. So hello, so hello. This is part two of you. So, should we get the ball rolling? Why not? Do you want to do for anybody who's just jumping in at this point in this episode? Oh yeah. Reintroduce yourself. Yes, please. And the mic is yours. Hello. I'm Sophie. And I'm really shy, I'm joking. No, I am shy, like when I don't know people. Anyway, I am Sophie Brown at Makeup and I have been doing makeup for as long as I could remember. In fact, I think it's ten years nearly now. Whoa. Yeah, like from when I ever started doing makeup. Not in the wedding industry, but just doing makeup. Um yeah, and I have covered all things makeup, really. Had a salon, um, well two salons for five years. I have done occasion makeup and still do the odd bits, lessons. I've also done makeup on the deceased, which is a fun fact for the five. Really? Oh my god, stop. No. Yeah, my friend's mum runs a funeral director, and every now and then the the odd request comes in. So I've done it three times. Yeah. Very um the first time did was a scary thing, I'm not going to lie, because I'd never actually seen a dead person. A dead person. Yeah. Um, but then she was really good, like she stayed with me for like ten minutes and then I was fine. And um it's actually weirdly really lovely because you get a lot of thank yous off the family. Um and it's not like the normal request, it's more of like This is a really no, that's probably a bit of a too much of a weird question, so go on, ignore me. No, I found it really interesting, and I think a lot of people would. I'm really like interested in terms of like how that is, and yeah, like the embalming, which is what she does. I know this is quite a deep, but I was mesmerized. Really mesmerized. I'm it's so so clever, like what she does on the human body. I'm fascinated. Yeah, I was fascinated. Um the second experience wasn't the best, unfortunately, because of the way the way the person was, so that that was a bit sad. Um yeah, and then the third one was cute, like it was it was nice, it was just yeah, yeah, definitely. So warming and in the right way. But can I just say like when we pass away, we go ice cold. I know. Not like cold where you you feel cold. I know, it's like something I've never ever ever until I've like been in a morgue. You are ice cold, and it was really, really um made me think about the way I had to apply makeup because makeup needs warmth and body heat. Yeah. So a lot of things weren't sitting very well. Um, and that's every time like I have to like think about the way eyelashes are gonna stick on and yeah, the way the formula I didn't think about that because yeah, that's true, it has to be warm. Yeah. But that is honestly, it really threw me off. Like when you go cold, you go ice cold. Well, I knew I knew that, but yeah, yeah. That was a steep I'm fascinated by and then probably watching me on video I'm like I know it's definitely like I'm actually really intrigued now. And it's do you know what's mad when you come out of your car and you've packed up, you sit in your car, and then you start eating your sandwich and you think fuck me. There's like ten dead people in there. No, and you're just there and you're like, What the hell? But like, what the hell? But it must be the most, like you say, the most rewarding part of it. Messages. Yeah, do you think it's more rewarding than a wedding? Or for me, a different thing. It's a whole different I felt quite heavy when I went in. Yeah. And then when I'd finished, I was like, oh, that's somebody's loved one. Yeah, it's quite sad. Yeah. But I do get very emotional with things like that. Um I don't even have to know you, and I feel like heavy. So no, it'd be the same. I'd cry at like anything. Yeah, but no, when you go outside, then you just get on with your life. And I remember being sat like, what the fuck? But you have to also have a very dry sense of humour, and I certainly do. Yeah. Um to get you through it, otherwise you wouldn't be the right fit. No, I agree with that one. But no, that was completely off tangent, probably interesting for most. But yeah, interesting fact. I have been in the wedding industry. What did we work out last time? It was similar to you. Eight years. Yeah, well, I started there when I was 13. Yeah, so I've been doing makeup wedding makeup for eight years, but officially make up for 10. Yeah. So a long time, um, and I love it. It's the best or one of the best jobs in the world. You meet so many amazing people. Sorry guys, we just keep stopping and starting because poor Joella has she has a very tiv tickly cough. The worst cough. The more talk, the worse it gets. Um, I'm glad this episode's about you, let's say. Um, so I've got a few questions if you don't mind. Yeah. Um I know we've gone through quite a few, so if you haven't already, please go back and listen to the episode and where we finished off, because we finished off on a little bit of a cliffhanger, I think it was, wasn't it? In the sense of we will carry this on. So, my questions to you, Sophie. I have quite a few if it's okay if we go through them. Yeah. And then we'll finish on a lovely bridal spiral. Okay. So the first one is how often do brides change their makeup vision between the trial and the day of the wedding? Um, 50-50. Really? Yeah, quite quite common, really. But then I plan my trials quite close to the wedding. Yeah. I don't like to leave a huge gap, really. So it's six to eight weeks, purely for that reason. Yeah, because you you just overthink. I mean, you know what it's like with your wedding dress, with any decision of a wedding, you just start your brain just goes in overload mode, doesn't it? And you don't want to see stuff, I guess, on social media. Yeah, or what your friend might have had. Um that one. Okay. I think I think I'm a little bit no, I'm not I am, and I'm not surprised. I think when I think about people change, I think about dramatically changing, but I guess when you think about it in that more detail, it could be the lipstick colour, it could be the eyeshadow colour, it could be like the little things, not everything. So like I think a lot of people, and I did this, I think we might have spoken about it before. Go in with the intention of I wanna feel and look my best self, so I'm gonna switch up what I usually have. You shouldn't do that, you should stick with what you know, but in an enhanced version. Um You say that all the time. Yeah. Yeah. A bride a couple of weeks ago, Lauren, lovely. Um Asian-inspired look. Um, because her wedding was half Asian, half like modern British. Like she tied in both cultures basically. And um, yeah, she was like, I don't know why I've done that. She was like, that was completely my fault. After the trial, the fearback she was like, I've tried it now, it's eliminated it, but I know I want to look like me. I don't suit a heavy eye, but thank you for doing what I asked. Yeah, I just know now that on my wedding I want more. But also your trial gives that opportunity to have those options that you can say that you have tried something. Yeah. Whereas if you don't have a trial, you go to your wedding and if you don't like it, you can't change that. Whereas your trial gives you a chance to change that. Yeah. Love that. Um, so what do you think the biggest misconceptions bride have brides have, sorry, about professional makeup? That it has to be heavy and that a lot of it. Yeah. Um also soft glam and natural glam. They're two different things. Yeah. There's a misconception with that. Like a lot of people are like, I really want natural makeup. Most people say this, and they'll show me a soft glam look. Yeah. That's really more of like a medium coverage foundation. Um, you know, quite you can see the bronzer, it's more striking. They've got a lot of blush. That's not natural makeup. Yeah. Natural makeup is skin-like makeup. We had this conversation, didn't we, last time? And it was the differences of the two. And if you you don't know them, kind of understand them, and even just asking your makeup artists what are the differences. Yeah, and then I suppose back in the other one up, like it it doesn't have to be heavy, like it doesn't, it's not the drag you're not gonna look like the drag queen that everybody uses that sentence, like it's just about communication with it all. Love that. I think no, massively, massively agree. Why do brides then struggle to recognise themselves when they see their wedding makeup? Because it's someone else's technique, and you might come in the morning of your trial or the afternoon of your trial in your comfies and a white little top that's comfy, your hair's not done, you might not have even had a tan, and if you were to go out, you might wear a tan, and you sat in my little studio and you're looking at yourself in the mirror, and you're probably in your head thinking, Oh my god, this is my wedding day makeup. And nine times out of ten, you tweak the majority of it anyway, and that's good, that's right. Um, and also women naturally gravitate towards the negatives big times we do. So when someone's giving you a mirror and you're literally like this, you're not looking at the bigger picture, you're looking at the pore that you might have or the blemish that might have popped up because of stress that week. Do you know what I did at yours? Which I'm really glad I didn't do. I didn't look in the close-up mirror. No, you stepped away. I stepped away, and do you know what? I didn't actually really look at myself until I got home. Yeah. Like true and like I walked in my hallway after you'd done my makeup, and that's when I looked because I'd obviously got my rollers in. I was like, I know full well that I'm I'm gonna love what's on my face, but I'm gonna be like, what the fuck's going on? Yeah, like you're in your comfies, it's early. There's a lot going on that's not but I must admit, compared to when I've had my makeup done before, right? I have looked at myself and thought I don't look like myself, and I'd had my tan done, I'd had X, Y, and Z, and it just wasn't it was too much. Really? Whereas when you did mine, I really, really liked it. Yeah, I do like to stay kind of in the middle. Like I'm not super I've said this before, I'm not supernatural, but I'm not really really heavy. Yeah, I am I am in the middle. I literally loved it. Yeah, you look stunning. I like made it stun in front of fresh faced like Tilbury vibes, that's what I always say. Um anything else at all you think people struggle? Bryce struggle, yeah, like confidence as well. Like not many people have it, and I suppose that affects like the reaction, doesn't it? Like you might think, oh my gosh, I'm too overdone, or this like this is so out of my comfort zone. She's watching me as I react. Like, so I always turn my back now, and I'm I always say, like, just gonna be the mirror. I want you to get up, go in the natural light, look in the bigger mirror. Yeah, I'm gonna write down a few products and then I'll I'll come back to you. And it just gives them time to like get in. Oh my gosh, like, wow, I look great, or wow, I would change that, or my brows aren't quite quite right. And then I'm like, let's break it down from where we started. So brows is where we always start. What do we think? And then I'll start doing breaking it down in the areas we've done, and that way you can slowly start seeing them like, yeah, I love this, or oh, one of the eyelashes just isn't sitting right. I'm like, that's fine, we'll tweak it now, and then instantly you can start seeing them like coming back, but also as well, like you have an open conversation, I guess. The more you talk, yeah, the more you open up rather than going away and being like, I didn't like this, this is this and listing it. It's better. A trial feels long for both, both of us, but it is it is long because you're doing your makeup and then you're kind of criticising your own work in a in your own way, yeah. And I'm watching your body language, yeah. Yeah, to know that's that that must be hard in in some kind of way. But it was because we had a few questions on the last app to do with this, wasn't it? It was from another makeup artist. She was like, I'm really struggling with criticising, yeah. It was years ago, but now it honestly I'm like that's fine. But I mean it must be hard from a bride's point of view to come in and and criticise your work as well. And they also feel bad. I'm like, you shouldn't. No, because this is a lifetime of photos that you just don't want to regret anything, and hair and makeup is strangely one of the most important things. It'll be the wedding on that photo with the dress and the suits, yeah. Yeah, so it's right to almost pick it apart. Yeah, no, I I agree with that, and I think it's very good the way that you do it as well. Yeah. So should a bridal makeup artist be giving honest advice even if it's not what the bride wants to hear, then? In a polite way, yeah. So if I came to you or if a bride came to you and was like, I want this, but it didn't suit what you say. So she won't mind me saying, and I'm not mentioning any names, but um a previous wedding I did. I've done the she's not mother of the bride, but she You mentioned this last time. Did I? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Was it the eyeshadow? Yeah. The eyeliner. Yeah, you did, yeah. Prime example. Yeah. Um if you if you didn't listen to it, but basically she was just like, I want this, and I knew I knew what she liked style-wise, and then she'd seen the other girls and said, Oh gosh, I really like that safe, and straight up I was like, Yeah, you're not gonna like it. I I know who you are, and straight away we had a giggle, but it's knowing, it's me knowing her. So maybe I wouldn't have said that in that way if you were a complete newbie because she'd be like, Alright, but with her, I knew I could just be like, No, yeah, and she was like, Yeah, you're right, but also I think also you have somebody's best interest at heart. So you're not gonna let you go out looking like a clown. No, and whether you're the bride or not, I still want you to feel amazing. Yeah. Okay, so is photo ready makeup different from makeup that looks good in person? Oh, it depends on the style you you choose. I know that's really annoying. Because if you go for a really light under eye, it's like a baby doll kind of makeup. That's the trend I'm getting at. So it's like really blushy and quite a light under eye. Yeah. It's heavy, that that doesn't look great in person, I personally think. But it looks great amazing on photos because of the flash and it's flawless. But in real life, for me, that's just too heavy. So I'll always bring it down a little bit, and I'll explain that to the person. If that's what they want, that's fine. But I won't make that as obvious as it would be in real life. Yeah, because it is striking, and like a nose contour, you have to be so careful with how heavy you take that, and also I guess it being too shiny in the sense, yeah, yeah, in person, but on those it looks perfect. Yeah, because it's all well and good wanting dewy skin, but realistically, dewy skin doesn't last you the same amount of time as maybe more of a matte look. Yeah, especially if you've got an oily t-zone. Didn't even think about that. So, what's the most chaotic thing then you've experienced on a morning of a wedding? Erm I can't remember what I said last time, and if I did say this last time, I'm sorry. It's clearly one that really sticks to with me. I think I might have said it, I don't know. I'll tell you if you did. But it's if I remember. The bride just wanted an outdoor ceremony and it was torrential raining. I think you may have, but I think mentioned it on that episode. I think we've had a conversation about this. Yeah, so it was bouncing off the floor. Like bouncing. And um she was like, I don't care if everybody gets wet. I want an outdoor ceremony. Yeah, we have spoken about this. And it was the musician, it was like a brass band or something. Like, I can't remember what it was, but um, they basically called the shots and was like, We're not performing out there. Yeah, like we can't, our our instruments will get damaged. Yeah. And it was them who had to bring it out inside, but nobody was telling her. So everybody was tiptoing around. Um her mum was like and and like me and the other makeup artists were like, and she was just the bride was getting fuming, or it was just so uncomfortable to be around. Yeah, so we didn't know what the outcome was until we left. No, did she not know until she walked down the aisle? No, I don't think nobody I think they would have told her, like, listen, stop. But on her way, I think they did break the news to her then and obviously didn't see a reaction I'd gone and I went, Oh, I wasn't there. But could you imagine though if she they'd broken that like they'd broken that news to her and she'd cried and sobbed her heart out, and you've gone. I know, yeah, I know. But the scene she was causing prior to that, everyone was frightened to say so. Including me. She would only speak to me. So I had an assisting make makeup artist and her mum was going through me to ask her questions because everyone was so scared. Oh no. I know. I know. I do we've said this before, like if you do have an out like a ceremony that a oh my god, I can't even get what it is atdoor. A wedding, and you want an outdoor ceremony, please pick a venue based on the indoor option as well, because you can't pick it in the UK just based on an outdoor ceremony.

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Mm-hmm.

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Oh, that that makes me really sad. I know. So on the topic of like mournings, then I guess as well. Have you ever had a bridesmaid or mother of the bride or a friend try and take over decisions? Yeah, but I was pre-warned. Okay. Yeah. Can you say more on that? Um, did the bride's trail, and she was like, just to let you know, one of my bridesmaids is quite opinionated, and she probably will just criticise work? Not my work, but just like try and be territorial. Okay. And I was like, okay, no worries. Like, it's nothing I can't handle. Um, and then we had a bit of a laugh, and even the bride was having a bit of a giggle, not like being nasty, she was like, it's just the way she is, and she's got the best intentions for me. And I was like, okay. So then I turned up on the wedding and I knew straight away who it was, like instantly, with like as soon as I walked in the room. But it didn't it didn't bother me.

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Yeah.

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So she was actually okay, but she was very territorial. And then I did have to put my big girl pants on because she the whole time of me doing this bride's glam that we'd spoken about and she loved was like this over me. So I was like, Oh, do you want that's off for everyone? The bride's experience as well. This is why then I put my big girl pants on. So I was like, Do you want to go and sit down and grab a drink? And that's how I said, and she was like, I was like, just you're in my light a little bit, and I want you to have a good time. Good girl, and she was like, she just looked at the side. I'm just like gonna do a little bobby dance, because that is it, I'm proud of you. Yeah, and the bride was like, as if to say, I know what you've tried to do, like trying to do there, thank you. And I was like, only you're in my light, and I want you to have a good time. And we've had a trial. I bet the bride's shoulders just went. Yeah, yeah. Because I was like, You're killing this whole relaxing vibe. Like she did have best intentions, but we'd had a trial, yeah, and she was happy, and there was no reason for her to do that. No, so I did put my big girl pants on, and she the the the bridesmaid just looked at me, and I felt like she then gained, which is so bad, but a bit of respect for me. Because I do think though, some people in that situation just want somebody to be honest with them. I know, and she was a beautician as well, so I I know, I don't I don't know. She didn't do makeup, but she was in like the beauty industry. Um but yeah, I know after that it was fine. She did go and sit down and it was. Like you said, but would you really want to be that person? What that says something or that needs to be told like that to be then like, okay, I'll take my foot off the pedal. But some people are. I know, I know, but I I did. I was like, you're in the light and just you need to have a good time. Like just go chill out. You know, you're gonna be stood all day. Yeah. You may as well sit down and take the advantage of it. Yeah, put your feet upon. Um so I know you've briefly touched about this before in terms of like trials and everything like that, but how do you deal um and handle, I should say, last-minute requests um or changes on the wedding day? Can people make them? Mmm. Okay. I encourage her. Uh-huh. You know, like we always end a trial with like if there's anything in the meantime, message me, email me, whatever, give me a call. Or even if you just want to wait for the wedding day, I'm never gonna leave you with what we've done today, like if you're not happy. Do you know what to mean? So yeah, as long as there's time, and nine times out of ten there is, and the bride's my main priority there. So if somebody might want an extra, I'll always be like, Well, let me finish the bride, and then we'll see. Yeah. So yeah, that's fine. Oh, I love that. So, what is the biggest beauty emergency you've ever had to fix on a wedding day? The mate, I'm just yeah, it's gotta be the I think I know what you're gonna say. Yeah, it's gotta be the mother of the bride, bruised face. I feel like you need to share this. Yeah, I don't think many people will know that you've done the Well, it did blow up on Insta. It literally went viral. Um But yeah, it was Well, you can see it on my page, and she was happy for me to share it, obviously. Um But basically Tell us what had happened, Sof. I get some message off the bride four days before the wedding. Hi, Soph. Um, trying not to make a scene and a big deal out of this, but mum's had a bit of an accident. And I was like, Okay, um, what's happened? So she was like, so cutting the story short, mum took the grandkids to the caravan and she had a trip and she bumped her face on the doorknob of the caravan. Um she said, luckily she's fine, but there's a bit of a bruise. So in my head, I'm like, a bit of a bruise. I need to know what how big it is because I need to allocate time. Yeah. Not realising that a bit of a bruise was pretty much half of her face. So I get the photo through, she's like, I'm gonna send you a photo. Like I said, we're trying not to make a big deal because mum's really upset. So I get a photo for him, and I literally gasped, like Ethan thought someone had died. And he was and I was like, Oh! And he was like, What what? And I was like, Oh my god, because the photo is it's bad, yeah. Bless her, I feel really bad. Yeah, it was bad. So I was like, Okay, let's not make a worry. I will do my absolute best to cover this. I am trained in that anyway. That's what my course was. Um, like prosthetics and things, but I must admit, I was really nervous because I was like, that is deep, and I don't do that a lot, yeah. And I'm I I want her to feel amazing, so I was like, Mum is gonna go first, and we are gonna block out an hour and a half. I was like, and they were like, really? I was like, yeah, like an hour and a half is needed. So then also you could come back and do any top-ups that you needed to write beforehand because you've still got a base, I guess, in the vision, yeah. So starts mum, and to be honest, I did blow myself away. I I I I couldn't believe that I'd covered it, um, covered the all the face. I didn't want to do it as full coverage as I had to, and I did explain that. And mum actually did consider not having the coverage, and it was a daughter who was like, Mum, like please just have a little bit more than well, it will be a lot more than what you used to, because typically Mother the Brider wouldn't go as heavy, but I had to because of how deep it was. It's on my Instagram, guys. Um we'll share the photo when this episode comes out, definitely. But it is it is pretty striking, and bless it. So it was just over one side. Thank thankfully, her dress covered all the bruising that was up her back and arm as well. I didn't have to cover that. That's really lucky. Um but um obviously it was so tender and sore, and I never mentioned anything. I'm sure she would have known this after the wedding, but she was like, Thankfully, it's only on one side as I was moving to the other side on the day. I just kept my mouth closed, obviously, but it was moving to the other side because it does your bruises. It just spreads, doesn't it? So yeah, I will I'll share it, but that's gotta be that has gotta be like up there. I feel like that is incredible to even deal with on the day for you as well, but also like it's a lot of pressure. But the fact you pulled that out of the bag, like I genuinely like I I really did like it. Well, it did, it went viral, and like, yeah, I mean they were crying the family, they were just like so thankful. That's amazing that you actually did that and you made somebody's day because there'll be a story behind their photos and been like, Mum had this massive bruise and we actually got it covered. I know, yeah. I was like in the kitchen thinking, I don't know, I've just done that, but I'm okay with it. Love that so wedding mornings again. Um, what are signs that a wedding morning schedule is gonna run late? Straight away. I'm gonna say this right in the camera when you start steaming the fucking dress. The dresses, why have you not done that the night before? That really pees me up. What are you doing? Like every other wedding. I mean, I would never react like this in the at the wedding. But do you know why? It's because they don't get access to the venue. I know, true. Don't do it in the same room, do it in a different room. And make sure the the person that's steaming or the the people that are steaming haven't had the hair or makeup done. You think we're being dead over the top when we say, like, if you've had your hair and makeup done, don't start steaming the dress. No. Your hair will just grow, your makeup will melt. That is that. Agree. So that's the first sign of maybe we might run late. I mean, not always. Um, also, if you've got a huge white bridal party and a very small prep room, it's chaotic and it eats into different times. So even getting your dress on, it's harder because there's limited space, there's stuff everywhere. And also, you need to try and keep an area of the room clean for photos, for dress reveal, for all sorts. I agree. So, again, I I find myself c cleaning up. I've seen loads of dresses numerous times to try and help with a schedule. Yeah. Um, yeah, I mean there's loads, but they're like the top few, I would say. There's yeah, there's a fair few. I can pick a few. Yeah. And then when people start start wandering off, or go find somebody, and I'm like, you don't need to go and find somebody, you need to be in that room with the bride. Especially when the bride's made a schedule. Yeah. And then you've cleared off, I don't know what you're doing, finding your flip-flops or something. But I'm just like, where's such and such? They need to be here now. Because if if you're gonna run uh you know, if a schedule's gonna go off, it comes back down to me, not them because you've cleared off, it's the makeup artist was running late. Yeah, and it's not the makeup artist was running late because you were dicking about Exactly, exactly. No, I agree with that. Um is waterproof makeup really essential, or is it mostly marketing then? Um setting spray and waterproof mascara, absolutely. Yeah. More essential, yeah. 100%, especially on a wedding day. Yeah, imagine like mascara running down your face. And what do you do when you cry sof? Clench bum. And you dab, don't wipe dab, don't wipe. Yeah. I love that clenching bum. Top tip. You have to do it before the tears have started. Yeah, so when you get the feel yourself, you just clench your bum and literally distract you. I love that. I think it was you that told me about that. Yeah, a photographer told me as well. Was it? Did it? Yeah, it can be who it was. No, I can't. But I was like, no way, and it also makes people laugh, and I think that's like a distraction. Distraction, yeah. So going back to natural makeup, then is natural makeup harder to do than full gram? Again, I disagree. For me, yeah. It is. Okay. Because you're still applying various products, but you're trying to keep it really minimal. Yeah. So natural makeup, that sort of saying earlier, like, oh, it's only half an hour for mum. It doesn't matter, there's still a skill and technique there to keep it natural. Yeah. Um because you're still applying products, but you just apply them in a different way. Yeah. And different products that are lighter weight and more fine layers. So yeah, it is hard still to do natural makeup. I'm just trying to think, like, in terms of like because I know nothing about makeup, and I just think like surely trying to figure out what somebody's natural is is a lot harder than you just doing the same as what I mean is continuously, continuously. I guess. I always so a good tip for other makeup artists if like the they're starting out or they're finding that hard to like navigate. I always say, like, just show me a photo of you when you're going out, or day-to-day. Yeah. And they're like, oh god, I don't take selfies, or oh god, I don't think I have one. Just any anything where you've even popped a bit of mascara on, it makes me know how far I can take it and understand different elements. So yeah. And what they wear, I guess, on a day-to-day basis. Because I'm eating you with nothing on, I don't have a clue who you are or what you like. So I guess a good starting point is that. I like that. I like that tip. Yeah. So we have had a few listeners' questions. So we popped up a few things on um socials again. We did indeed. Um so the first one is why is bridal makeup more expensive than a standard makeup appointment there. Because of all the prep work prior, the pressure. Um nine times out of ten, your kits more higher end. Um there's a lot in the background that happens that you don't see, which is the early starts, um the admin side of it. Admin side, the unsociable hours, so we miss out with fine friends and family. Um we make sure you just have the best morning possible. So we go above and beyond by putting shoes on, steaming dresses.

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We go that extra mile. Um, and yeah, just skill and if time is time, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's a lot longer than it is a bright. It's not an hour bish bash bosh out if you don't really like it. Tough. Yeah, it's top up yourself kind of thing. Basically, if you don't like it, we're repainting your whole face, basically. Yeah. Which would advise getting a trial. Um, so are luxury beauty products worth the investment then for your wedding day, like the lipsticks and the powders. Yeah, not not every single product, but I definitely think a good lippy. Top two MAC. You just can't go wrong with a MAC lipstick and Tilbury. They just feel like they stay. And actually, I've heard the Maybelline stain one's really good. Have you tried it yet? No, I've not. I do really want to, so that's more of like a drugstore. Apparently, it's really good and doesn't budge. Um and then a powder, a good translucent powder, you're gonna need that all day. Whether you're the bride, bri bridesmaid, especially crying, crying, the heat, sweat, a full day of makeup. Nine times out of ten, you are gonna shine a little bit. You need a bit of a top-up every time. Yeah. So the the top two of a higher end would be a lipstick. Do you leave a little top-up bag? Yes, I do. Um, not all makeup artists do that. So in my little touch-up kit, uh, is a mint, um, a powder puff, your lipstick that you've used, um, powder, a lip brush, uh and a business card.

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Do you tell people to bring their own lipstick? Um yeah, sometimes. Okay. Depends on who you are. But like the bride for if a trial, you know, I'm like, is there a go-to? I might have it, and if they don't, we'll use it. Or I might stock it for them. Um, and then like a bridesmaid or mother of the bride or whoever, I'm like, Do you have a go-to lipstick that you're gonna pop on today? And they'll go, Yeah, actually, I do. And I'll ask them, Do you want me to match with that or do you want me to just use yours? Because it makes sense to um a nine times out of ten, they're like, may as well just use mine. Because then if you're gonna tap up later on, it's the same. Yeah, exactly. No, I like that. So, um, top tips for what to keep then in are little handbags, slash grab bags for touch-ups during the day. So you just pretty much have gone over there, yeah. Yeah, definitely a powder on your lipstick, and if you're maybe asking your makeup artists if they'll do one if they don't. Yeah, yeah. Maybe a little eyelash glue. Love that. And a mint. And a mint, yeah. Um, so would you recommend showing your M U A? U. Um, my wedding dress and hair in spow so that you, hang on, it comes in two parts. Recommend Sash come up with what makeup would suit the style. I don't think it's essential because it's not matching your makeup to the dress and the style, it's ma it's it's you. You are. Nine times out of ten you show me. Because I ask, and I'm like, prodding, and I wanna see. But it doesn't help me it doesn't change the look for me. Do you think it changes the look for hair then? Yeah, because of the neckline. But again, I think they'll probably just ask you what your neckline is as well. Yeah, and if you do want to show you, yeah. You don't have to. No. Usually with the first people there anyway, and usually your dress is out, yeah. We're not gonna tell anybody. I mean, I'm so religious on not sharing any photos until you have. So nothing will go up on the my story, nothing. Yeah, um, because that's your big news to share. So we we do end up seeing it anyway. And also, could you imagine if you put a picture up and then the dress in the background and the evening guests haven't arrived at the end of the day? Exactly. And you just never know who follows you. No, not at all. I agree with that. Um, so the last one, yeah, um, is I need tips for makeup longevity. Essentially, especially I'm a bride who cries a lot. Um, so tip dab, don't rob. Clench those bad cheeks. Yeah, like literally looks dramatic, but just dab away. Um And I'm gonna tell you now, I will put something into your flowers so you're fine. I will literally put it in there. Um you've got to trust your makeup artist, like hopefully she knows or they know this stuff, so it it'll it'll take anything. It's gonna, you know, you're gonna be fine basically. Yeah try and catch the tears if you can. Use that waterproof mascara, set in spray. Um try not to overpowder it depending on who's doing your makeup. Oh, okay. Because it will separate. So if you know you're gonna be super emotional, it's better that it's just more creamier because it's easier to blend back in. Whereas if you've set it with a powder over the top, you'll get like a little streak will form. Yeah. So would you advise to say then to your makeup artist beforehand I'm a crier? Yeah. And any any favours or any gifts that you need to give out, do it before she has a makeup done. Don't do it after. Because and once make once you've gone. Yeah, like I get why you want to like say she's done, but she's probably gonna cry. Happy tears. Yeah. So just do it before when she's in a PJ's. I like that. Yeah. And also, like, yeah, sometimes I've seen it where they'll either be in rollers or they'll just have it in a lot of things. Yeah, but it looks cute in black and white. It's really cute, yeah. Um that has helped loads. Thank you so much, honey. You're welcome. Thank you for information that I didn't even know. You're welcome. Hopefully, it's a bit different than the last one. I feel like we have had more questions come in and different responses and stuff. Yeah. Um, but yeah, thanks for listening. I hope that's helped. So, where can everyone find you then, so? You can find me on Instagram, Facebook, and TikTok, and it's at Sophie.brown.makeup and the sister pages sp8.bridalmakeup, which is where you'll find that mother the bride photo. It's blue at the top. Definitely share that as well. Yeah. And please just do not forget to rate us, review us, subscribe, anything that you probably can. Share us on stories and taggers. We love sharing. Get involved, comment on the posts, like share the post, share the post, whatever it may be. Like, just send in your bridal spirals. It can be a supplier spiral, it can be anything. Yeah, send it in. And where can they send it in them, please? 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