The 12 & 32 Podcast - Serving Portland's Youth Sports Community
The podcast is co-hosted by two Portland, Oregon Hall of Famers, Jeff Erdman and Bill Booth, former teammates at James Madison High School in the late 1970s. The podcast’s name reflects the jersey numbers worn by the co-hosts during their playing days. Jeff Erdman is a lifelong and highly respected PIL athlete, coach, athletic director, and supporter. Bill Booth is a longtime advocate for inner-city youth sports and a well-known fundraiser for nonprofit organizations. Both are long-serving board members of the PIL Hall of Fame.
We are very excited to help tell the stories of today’s standout PIL student-athletes, highlight the hard-working coaches and their programs, and share the challenges and changes involved in running successful youth athletic programs today.
The 12 & 32 Podcast - Serving Portland's Youth Sports Community
Grant Baseball, Building a Program, Becoming a Teammate, Chasing the Next Level
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On Episode 6 of the 12&32 Podcast, we head to Grant High School for a conversation about Portland baseball, player development, coaching, leadership and what it takes to build a successful program. Hosts Jeff Erdman (12) and Bill Booth (32) sit down with Grant Head Baseball Coach Matt Kabza, who recently completed 20 years of teaching and coaching at Grant, and Jinki Tomita, the 2026 PIL Pitcher of the Year and First Team All-State selection. Matt shares the story behind Grant's highly respected baseball program, his journey from being coached by Jeff more than 20 years ago to becoming a mentor to generations of young athletes, and his philosophy on developing players and strengthening baseball throughout the Portland community. Jinki takes us inside his four-year varsity journey, the work and sacrifices behind his development as a pitcher, his favorite Grant memories, his experience as a student-athlete and choir performer, and his upcoming opportunity at Feather River Junior College in California. We also talk pitching, college baseball, dreams of playing professionally, the importance of family and coaches, and the lessons Jinki would pass on to the next generation of young players. It's a conversation about baseball—but more importantly, it's about the people, relationships and commitment that make high school sports special.
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Welcome back to the 12 and 32 podcast, where we bring together the people, the stories, the memories that connect generations through Portland High School sports. I'm Bill Booth, number 32. And I'm Jeff Erdman, number 12. And today we're talking baseball, Portland High School baseball, the development of young athletes, what it takes to build a great program, and what it means to be a great teammate.
SPEAKER_03And we have two terrific guests with us today from Grant High School. First, a guy who has spent more than 20 years teaching and coaching at Grant and has built one of the most respected baseball programs in the state, Coach Matt Cobza. And we're also joined by one of his former players, a young man who has had a remarkable high school career, Grant pitcher Jinky Tomita, the 2026 PIL pitcher of the year on a first team all-state selection. Jinky is getting ready to take the next step in his baseball career at Feather River Junior College. Welcome to both of you.
SPEAKER_02Thanks for inviting us to be on the podcast. It's an honor and privilege to be here with you both. I'm a big fan of the podcast and uh I love the work that you're doing to highlight PIL programs. Thanks, Matt.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, thanks for having me. I'm really excited to get this going.
SPEAKER_03And I have to say to Matt, this is very special to me because I go way back with you. You were a young player at Madison, now McDaniel, when I was coaching here. And now here we are, 30 years later, Matt, 30 years later, sitting in the podcast studio at our old high school talking about the program you built at Grant. That's very special to me.
SPEAKER_02It's a special moment for me as well, coach. Uh you inspired me as a player, showed me what it looks like to be a great leader, and showed me what it looks like to pour your heart and soul into a program and into any endeavor that you choose. So for me, it's really a special moment.
SPEAKER_01All right, I want to do a quick shout out to our sound and uh student engineer here at McDaniel, David Bay, helping us put this whole thing together. He's the magic that makes this happen. Thank you, David. All right, Matt, let's get started with you. You came through this community as a student athlete, you played for Jeff, and then you became a teacher and a coach. Twenty years at Grant is pretty remarkable commitment. Take us back to the beginning. What brought you into teaching and coaching and why did Grant become home to you?
SPEAKER_02Well, as I reflect back and think about what got me into teaching and coaching. There were really three big kind of moments that happened for me about 25 years ago. Uh one of them was my mom was diagnosed with cancer. Uh she's doing great, she beat it. Um I met my beautiful and supportive wife, Megan, and I volunteered to help out coach a freshman baseball team here at Madison. Uh and all those all three of those things came together, and I started reflecting on what I wanted to do. At the time, I was in outdoor sales, and um I was having so much fun working with the young people here. Um I thought about my future with my wife, who was also a teacher at the time, and it made sense for me to do something that I felt like was going to make a a difference and impact in the in the community. Um so instead of kind of chasing the almighty dollar, I wanted to make a a big difference with the people that were in my community. And that's how I ended up being a teacher and coach.
SPEAKER_03Awesome. Matt, I remember you as a player, and now that you spent two decades on the other side of the fence, what do you think is the biggest difference between Matt the player uh 30 years ago and coach Matt Cobbs of today? And what do you understand now about coaching young men that you didn't understand when you first started?
SPEAKER_02For me as a player, it was all about winning. I was very competitive. Um I think I that trait was instilled by my older brother, who was a great athlete and a uh ferocious competitor and never let me win anything. And so because of that, I had a desire to win uh what whatever I was doing, whether it was uh baseball, basketball, football, academics, it was all about winning. And now as I think about my perspective as a coach, it's more about relationships, uh building moments and memories. Um and that's really what drives me now as a as a coach and teacher.
SPEAKER_01Okay, so you know, Matt, you took over uh after a long time coach, Rob Kennewell, who Jeff and I know and remember playing against back in the 70s. And Rob coached at Grant for what, like 30 years, and that's an important piece of Portland baseball history. What did you learn from the coaches who came before you? And how did you decide what you wanted the Grant baseball program to become?
SPEAKER_02Well, I can't thank Rob enough for giving me that first opportunity when I got my uh teaching job at at Grant. Uh, he came to me and asked me if I wanted to be a varsity assistant, and of course I said yes because of my love for the game, and uh that was one of the reasons why I became a teacher, was so that I could also coach. Um so I can't thank him enough. Um, Coach Erdman. Uh his passion and energy and attention to detail and the the program that he provided for me was an inspiration. Uh also thinking about Dave Gasser, another Madison legend, going to his camps as a young ball player and learning the fundamentals from uh a true legend was also an influence for me. And also other coaches like Mike Clopton, who ran a great program over at Wilson High School for years and built a really strong baseball community there. Uh, I've taken a little bit from all of those great legendary coaches and mixed them together and tried to put my own spin on it at Grant High School.
SPEAKER_03Matt, you definitely are more than just a baseball coach. As you mentioned, you're a teacher in the business and entrepreneurship area. You teach sports marketing, and you've helped young people think about life beyond athletics. How important is it for you to prepare your players for life after baseball?
SPEAKER_02After you coach for a while, you see your players start to have families and become parents, teachers, coaches, and business professionals. You really understand that the most important thing that you can do as a coach is have an impact on a player's future. Um for me, nothing is more rewarding than seeing players have a successful career and loving parents.
SPEAKER_01You know, Grant has had a very dominant program in Portland baseball for years now. And, you know, I'm trying to figure out what is the formula? Is it talent, is it culture, expectation, coaching staff, is the player commitment outside of the season? What's the secret sauce, Matt?
SPEAKER_02It's all of the above. You have to have gifted athletes in your program, uh, which we have had some really good talent come through Grant. The the Culture at Grant is strong. It's something that we put a lot of effort into creating as a coaching staff. Um our player commitment is incredible, but I think the the real differentiator and the thing that really makes us special is our coaching staff. Um we have nine coaches on staff. Seven of them are grant alumni, and five of them are former players. And I want to publicly thank a few of these guys. I'd like to thank Nick Weddle and Owen McClafferty, who do a great job running our freshman program. I'd also like to thank Zach Moore and Hunter Bufton who do a great job running our JV program. And then on our varsity staff, we've got Mike Vassbinder, Brendan Norrick, Alex Fisher, and Jason Rosen, who all are great coaches and do a great job of influencing how we do things at Grant.
SPEAKER_03Okay, one other thing that really stands out about you, Matt, is your relationship with other coaches. You seem to understand that building high school baseball isn't just about grant winning, it's about making Portland baseball better. Can you talk a little bit about your relationship with the other coaches around the city and your philosophy then also on summer baseball and player development?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I feel like the baseball coaches and the PIL really do have a great relationship and support each other and want to see our teams be very successful. Uh we are fiery competitors between the lines, but at the same time, I think there is a true spirit of camaraderie, uh camaraderie amongst the group, and we all want the PIL to be as strong as possible. CJ Watson at Lincoln, Jeremy Shetler, Brad Blocker, Chase Franks, Andy Berger, Daniel Stoffer, Clarence Richmond, all are great coaches, and it's been an honor to keep compete against them and collaborate with them on how we can make the PIL as strong as it can possibly be.
SPEAKER_01Today you've got club baseball, private pitching lessons, hitting lessons, strength and conditioning coaches, technology, video, radar guns, batting cages, camps, recruitment services. There's a ton of opportunity, but also a lot more pressure. What does a young baseball player today need to do to be successful and succeed?
SPEAKER_02This makes me think about our definition of success at Grant. So we talk about it a lot as a program, and it's uh stolen from great coach John Wooden. But the idea is success is defined by having peace of mind, knowing that you've done all that you could do to be the best version of yourself. And so that's how we define success. So when I'm thinking about players, you know, and I had this conversation with Jinky one time as we were walking off the field. What does it take to look yourself in the mirror and be satisfied with the work that you've done? And as Jinky and I were talking about it, I I had mentioned because Jinky is such a hard worker, and he he said, Hey coach, there's always a little bit more that you can do. So how can I ever look in the mirror and have peace of mind? I said, you know what? I think that's a really good thought that you've had, and it's it made me question kind of this mantra that we had been talking about in our program for a really long time. And I think what I came up with as a response was for a player, you want to set minimums. So what is the minimum that you can do where you can look yourself in the eye, look yourself in the mirror, and say, I'm happy with what I've done to put myself in a position to be the best. Because there is this idea of you can always chase a little bit more. And uh with Jinky, a guy that has an amazing work ethic, uh, I think that was a a challenge for him was when was enough enough? And uh so success for us is having that peace of mind. And so for me, can you look yourself in the mirror as a coach? Can you look yourself in the mirror as a player and say, I did all that I could do, I set my goals and kept a promise to myself, and I'm happy with whatever results come from it.
SPEAKER_03Coach Matt, on the on the flip side of things, Bill talked about all the new uh recruiting, all the all the new technology and things, all the new setup. Do you think that our young players like Jinky are missing out today on things that we had when you were growing up or you play for me?
SPEAKER_02I think they I don't think they're missing out. I would say that they have so much opportunity that it's really about curating what they want to do and matching it up with whatever their goals may be. There's so many opportunities. So some of the things that we've added at Grant are mental performance training, lots of strength and conditioning training. Um, and that goes on top of all the baseball training and the the technology and the rap soto and the pocket radar and uh the blast motion sensors, all of those things that we use in our program. Um it's really about curating and finding what is going to be the most meaningful and what's gonna have the largest impact for you as a as an athlete or as a coach. Thank you.
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SPEAKER_00Well, obviously I'm nervous, like all these players I've never met before, but they've been together for a long time, playing in Grant Youth Baseball and all of that. And I I didn't really know if I wouldn't belong there. But as I met all of these people, like they they took me in, they all the seniors, the upperclassmen took care of me, and they really they really they really made me feel like I belong.
SPEAKER_03So do you think your biggest adjustment, Jenky, was a physical part of pitching at that level or the mental side, or just learning to be part of the team?
SPEAKER_00I mean definitely the physical side, right? Yeah. Coming as a freshman, I was like one 130 pounds-ish. Yeah, I was a really skinny dude. And going into sophomore year, I probably gained like 30 pounds. I was like 160, and then junior year, 180. And like I kept growing growing. And I think mental side, I'm I've always thought of myself as a pretty level-headed in even in games, and I always had the composure to deal with a lot of situations. So yeah, definitely the physical side, and yeah, just getting stronger, bigger, and working with all these, um, all these um all these teammates and opponents that are like way older than me.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that helps. You know, and every athlete uh athlete has its setbacks. Uh did you have an injury, a bad outing, a difficult stretch, or a moment where you wondered if you were really going to reach the level you wanted?
SPEAKER_00Um, I didn't I didn't have any injuries or anything that set me back, but one thing is that sophomore year I didn't perform as well as I wanted to. Coming from freshman, I I didn't get I got opportunities but didn't, and sophomore year I was ready to step up as a pitching role uh as one of the best pitchers in the in in the program. And this that winter I worked worked hard, got my VLO up around 85-ish. But then when the spring came, I was back down to what I think of freshman level. And yeah, I didn't perform as well the sophomore year. Yeah, sophomore year I didn't really do good, and I felt like I gone to like a stalemate. And then yeah, that that summer though, like I picked it back up and I felt like I felt like there is like a timeline that like that's already there, but I can't really like change that myself. And yeah, just you just gotta like trust your work and yeah, let's get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let time take care of that.
SPEAKER_03So you've always been someone who's really committed. I can tell that and talking to Coach Matt about that. All the things you played club baseball, had pitching instructors besides grant, you trained with conditioning coaches. What did you learn about the difference between wanting to get better and doing the work to get better?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I mean, I think baseball is a really honest sport, especially pitching, in my opinion. Because yeah, you you really don't improve unless you could you can um still like have good outings and stuff, but like stuff-wise, VLO, breaking stuff, you really don't get better unless you work on it. So yeah, definitely I've always wanted to get better, but definitely doing the work is it's it's hard. It's hard, I think. Yeah, I think of myself as a lazy person almost. But but not true. But yeah, I'm definitely putting in the work in and putting in the work in for not just myself, but all the people around me that trust me. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Bet. So was there a point where you realized, hey, I'm I'm not just as t a talented young pitcher anymore. I'm responsible for becoming the best pitcher and teammate I can be.
SPEAKER_00Um, I don't think there was a certain point. I've always thought that I need to be the best version of myself to uh for myself and also the teammates. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Great. Uh Matt, you watched Jinky grow from a freshman into the PIL pitcher of the year and a first team All-State player. What did you see in him early on?
SPEAKER_02Early on, I saw an amazing arm action, just a natural thrower of a baseball. Uh I also saw a guy who loved to pitch. He had absolutely loved it. And that's a character trait that you definitely want in your pitchers. They want the ball and they want to be on the mound. And then his attention to detail and his work ethic is second to none. He really prepares himself and puts himself in a position to be great when he toes the rubber.
SPEAKER_01So, what changed most over the four years? Was it velocity, uh, his breaking stuff, his command, his mental toughness, or was it uh about maturity?
SPEAKER_02I think just natural maturity, having more experience, um, getting in the weight room, uh, doing the doing that hard work and paying attention to those details made him just continue to get better and better. And I always had a hundred percent belief that he was going to be a top pitcher in the PIL, and it was really outstanding to see him win pitcher of the year this year.
SPEAKER_03That's amazing. Uh, can you talk a little bit, Coach, about uh we all know uh that great pitchers win ball games, uh, but can you talk about Jinky as a teammate and how he impacted, positively impacted the other players in the Grant locker room and the dugout?
SPEAKER_02Well, I think the the thing about Jinky, as I I alluded to earlier, is the attention to detail and his work ethic were really second to none. And he set a standard in our program and showed the younger players what it looks like to be a fantastic pitcher. Um and so he really led by example. Um, but he was also a a a great teammate at a uh really high baseball IQ conversations in the dugout and a really fun sense of humor as well. Um so those those things, that work ethic, that attention to detail, him uh uh paying attention to the game at a high level and then and just being a great person, very personable, all uh made him a fantastic teammate, and he uh left a great legacy at Grant High School.
SPEAKER_01Ginky, I'd like to get your perspective on that. How would you describe your relationship with your teammates and what does it mean to be a good teammate when you're also one of the stars on a team?
SPEAKER_00As a teammate and as a person, we talked about in the mental performance is being a leader. And I don't consider myself a typical leader where I lead with my voice, but having the most experience on the team, what and exactly what Cubsa said, I can lead by example. So showing confidence in what I do, really preparing myself, I think, help my teammates out.
SPEAKER_01Great. Okay, Jinky. So we've got uh now we're gonna get into some of the fun stuff here. So you're heading off to Feather River Junior College, a program known for developing pitchers. What are your uh what are your best pitches right now? What do you take in uh California with you?
SPEAKER_00I don't think there's a certain pitch, but I have a lot of pitches, and that's what made me successful.
SPEAKER_03You don't have one nasty pitch that you know when it's working, the hitter's not gonna hit it?
SPEAKER_00Oh well, there is one. I threw my slider a lot in high school and my pitching coach also trusted on it and that I could throw it whenever.
SPEAKER_01So is that slider the pitch you trust uh when you absolutely have to get an out?
SPEAKER_00Yes, I would say so, yeah.
SPEAKER_03So what pitch uh are you hopeful of, or what pitches the college coaches have already identified for you to improve on? Which one?
SPEAKER_00Um definitely the splitter. It's it's it's a really good pitch. It's been a little inconsistent, but I'm hoping it'll work on it.
SPEAKER_01So let's talk a little bit about your favorite Grant memories. Uh was there one game, a playoff moment, or a win that you'll remember forever the rest of your life?
SPEAKER_00Definitely the Jesuit game last year on the playoffs. I mean, this it was semi semi-finals, and then that was like the biggest crowd I've ever seen in my life. So many Grant supporters coming, and it was just a really, really fun game to pitch at.
SPEAKER_03Awesome. Who and who's the toughest hitter you've faced as a pitcher in high school?
SPEAKER_00Um probably Cody Roletto from Wells, former formerly Wilson. But yeah, um I've faced him many times. I think I only got him out once. As a program, I think it was really hard facing him late. Yes. Yeah. How about your teammates? Um, I'm gonna have to give this one uh Calvin Sorensen. He I faced him like three times. He's gotten two hits off of me to the right side. I painted the outdoor outside corner, but he just kept hitting him.
SPEAKER_03Uh Coach Matt, did you ever have to have to tell Jinky to stop throwing? Was he the kind of guy who always wanted one more inning or 20 more pitches in the bullpins or what?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, he the one thing about Jinky is he never had a sore arm. He was always ready to go. And so he wanted the ball and he wanted as many innings as possible. And like I said, he loves the pit. I remember one moment where we were playing Roosevelt and uh Jeky was on the mound, he was pitching really well, and we got into a situation where uh old coach thought it would be good to to take him out and save some of his bullets so that he was ready to go later on in the season and kind of conserve some of his uh you know his pitch count his total pitch count on the year so I I took him out of the game and I'm over coaching third base and all of a sudden I see Jinky throwing a bullpen in the Roosevelt uh uh in the Roosevelt pin and I'm I'm waving my hands from third base signaling to our our coaching staff I was like hey uh you know we took him out of the game so that he could rest um and he was having no part of that he wanted to get his work in and had a few more pitches in him uh that day so he went over to the the Roosevelt pin and got that work in. I think that might have been uh one of the times where where Gie was uh the most upset with me is when I took him out of that game. Um so that that's kind of a fun story that we can reflect back on.
SPEAKER_01That's a great story thank you. So here comes the next chapter you're headed off to feather river the program uh just had an historic season advancing to the junior college baseball championship. What are you most excited about?
SPEAKER_00Yeah I mean um just getting better in college like their head coach was also a pitcher and they have an amazing pitching coach who went to the minor leagues and I'm just really excited to just get gain more knowledge of pitching and yeah maybe from there moving on to the next level we've did a little research and we see that there's a number of sophomore pitchers on the Feather River program that are moving on to either Pro Ball or to four year colleges.
SPEAKER_03So obviously increase an opportunity so what about what's your what's your goal for innings competing for innings and things coming up I definitely am setting a high goal of earning a starting spot there and I think I can do it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah nice that's great. Let's talk about the student side of your life you're a talented baseball player obviously and you know you're a accomplished student we hear and uh also a talented singer who performed with the Grant choir at the state level. So uh got a question for you.
SPEAKER_00What are you thinking about studying in college and what what career can you see yourself pursuing I have two choices and I'm planning on taking either communications or kinesiology communications because I am both fluent in English and Japanese and I also want to stay stay around baseball and being a translator is one of the opportunities I think will come up later in my life. And then for kinesiology I've always love movement especially pitching mechanics and that is something I want to study and yeah Jenky the we have to ask this question do you have dreams of becoming a professional baseball player? That's always been the dream yeah that's that's a big goal. Perfect.
SPEAKER_01Good don't let anybody take that from you what would you tell a little league player who says I want to play college baseball someday what's the one thing you wish someone had told you when you were 10 or 11 years old I think it's just having confidence in yourself and never never really like never giving up on that dream.
SPEAKER_00Like as long as you keep working towards what you want to do I think you'll get there. Okay we want to switch a little here and give uh Jinky and coach Matt an opportunity to maybe thank some people Jinky we know that no athletes no athlete gets to this point alone who are the people you want to thank you know possibly parents coaches teammates instructors who help you become the person and player you are today yeah I really want to thank my parents I mean no nobody can really go anywhere without them I really want to thank my dad he always he always kept me accountable like always pushing me to be the best version of myself like yeah he's really tough and I've I've struggled with some of his comments and stuff like that but but really it's I really can't make it I wouldn't have made it this far without him and I really want to thank him for that. And to my mom I mean she's always kept me so healthy in many ways emotionally physically and all these the food she makes yeah it's so good. And yeah those two are the best and I really can't thank them enough for that and I also want to thank my teammates at Grant I mean all my especially my seniors and all my um the people that are my age like grow growing up these four years with them has been has been the best and always always these like almost teammates but rivalries also like yeah that just pushed me to be better. And I wanna sp I wanna special shout out to my pitching coach Alex Fisher. Like I don't think any high school program has like that committed of a pitching coach. And like I um yeah definitely um I didn't get to learn that much about like pitching mechanics and stuff because I'm already good at that yeah but he definitely helped me with the mental side of how to attack hitters and how to just first pitch strikes getting early and all those stuff really helped me. So yeah I want to thank that thank him for that.
SPEAKER_02And coach uh as a coach one of the most rewarding things must be seeing where your players go and after they leave your program and we mentioned that earlier and when you look at Janky heading off to California what are you most proud of Jan I think the thing that I'm most proud of with Jinky is um him keeping like like we talked about earlier that definition of success I think that he kept the promises that he made to himself about what he needed to do to prepare and stuck he mentioned this earlier but he stuck with the the process when the results weren't there um and continued to believe in himself. And I think the the lessons that he learned about preparation about believing in yourself will uh obviously help him at Feather River but I think that will help him long term with everything that he chooses to do in his life um whether it's his with his career or his family he's got a bright future ahead of himself.
SPEAKER_03Amazing. Matt, before we wrap up uh the old coach here uh gets wants to say something. I've known you for a long time and you as a young athlete I watched you grow as a player now I've watched you spend more than 20 years giving your time and energy to people at Grant. And I think sometimes we talk about wins championship great players like Jinky but we don't always talk enough about the people who build the programs character education and development is area you stress in your program. You know you're amazing you're a teacher you're a coach you're a husband and father you're a mentor and what provides me with deep personal satisfaction is that you were a role model for young people at Grant High School, Northeast Portland and throughout the baseball community. You've taken the lessons that you learned as a player you added many new skills and nuances and built yourself into an outstanding leader of a program provides many positive learning opportunities for a generation of kids. And I think the thing that makes me proud is that you've never just been about Grant baseball you worked to make Portland better baseball better. You built relationship with coaches you encouraged summer baseball you help young players develop you helped create a culture where kids can learn about competition commitment teamwork and life. So from an old coach to a former player I just want to say thank you Coach Matt and Matt please keep it going for many more years. And Jinky I think you're just a terrific young man and an example of what can happen when talent meets commitment when a young person is willing to work and when coaches teammates and family all come together.
SPEAKER_01Well that's what the 12 and 32 podcast is all about the stories behind the athlete the coaches who shaped them the teammates who stood behind them and the communities that helped them grow. Jinky good luck in California we can't wait to follow your journey Matt congratulations on 20 years at Grant and thank you for everything you've done for Portland baseball and David thank you for keeping us on the air today. I'm Jeff Erdman number 12 and I'm Bill Booth number 32. We'll see you next time on the 12 and 32 podcast