The Meyers Family Conspiracy

The Trailer Betrayal & The Architecture of Erasure

Steven Meyers, Jr. Season 3 Episode 3

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"They didn't just take my place; they tried to delete the evidence that I ever existed."

In this extended, hour-long session of The Meyers Family Conspiracy, Steven Meyers delivers his most transparent and confrontational episode to date. Recorded live against the backdrop of Grand Theft Auto V and Red Dead Redemption 2, this isn't a polished studio production—it’s a raw, peaking, and unapologetic deep dive into the mechanics of family betrayal and systemic erasure.

The Narrative Core: From Grief to the Trailer

The episode begins in the wreckage of 2018. Following the death of his brother Scott, Steven recounts the "Nelson Rockefeller episode" and the disastrous "reset" orchestrated by his father: being placed in a Sleepy Hollow trailer with a roommate who was a career heroin addict. This is where the foundation of the current conflict was poured—a shovel handed to a man already in a hole.

The Architecture of Erasure

Steven breaks down what he calls the "digital lobotomy"—the process of rebranding a six-year fatherhood as an "unnatural attachment" in the eyes of the law. From the memory of catching a daughter mid-air off a tree swing to the courtroom absurdity of lawyers claiming Liquid Death water was proof of "chugging alcohol," this episode exposes how the legal system is used to weaponize silence.

The Trailer Betrayal & The Instructor

For the first time, Steven details the "conniving" timeline of May 2021. While he was working in California to support the household, a local martial arts instructor moved into his bed, wore his clothes, and took pictures with his cat. Steven addresses the fallout of this betrayal, the loss of the instructor's job, and the "joke" that was made of his replacement.

Radical Accountability

In a move that separates this podcast from the rest, Steven refuses to play the "perfect victim". He openly admits to his own infidelity and low points, arguing that while he started the fire, the focus must remain on the truth for the children involved.

In This Episode:

  • The Heroin Roommate: How the Sleepy Hollow "reset" actually began.
  • Parental Alienation: The campaign to ensure Olivia only hears one side of the story.
  • Legal Warfare: A look at N.C.G.S. § 14-196.3 (Cyberstalking) and how a glitchy Android-to-iPhone text became a $2,000 legal weapon for a sibling who owes him money.
  • The 18-Year Clock: Why the truth is being recorded now for the kids to find later.

Production Warning:

This audio is ROUGH. It clips, it peaks, and it includes the authentic, unedited human experience—including the gaming audio and the reality of a 10:00 PM recording session after a long shift.

Coming Next Week: Case Number 2020-09-204. The "grow op" that wasn't, and the Alamance County snitches who failed.

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SPEAKER_02

Yara was here uh last Sunday. That was yesterday. It's currently uh Monday evening, May eleventh, around nine thirty at night, and there's a There's a Mr. Potato Head uh game type. Like it's like in a box a game would come in, you know, like hold on, honey. Sorry if there's any noise from that. I just wanted to fix the microphone there. You know, um this Mr. Potato Head box is like laying on the uh on the floor here. I haven't cleaned anything up. The toys are still all over the place. She was having a blast with it. We were having fun. Build Mr. Potato Heads and then just massacre them. I didn't I didn't start it. I mean, she might be her father's daughter, but anywho, I I don't want to clean it up because um it reminds me of her being here. And sometimes the pictures that are on the walls that are slowly getting starting to put up, you know. They're uh they're not enough to alleviate the loneliness. Sometimes the environment needs to uh be there so I don't forget that uh of who I am, I guess is what I'm trying to get at. Um It's it's really it's really uh to me like a um It's a conundrum. Because some days I wonder like she's not gonna forget me, right? I'm doing everything I can not to forget her. And one thing I can say is that my kid loves me so much. I love my daughter more than anything in this world. I I uh there'll be points where I'm I'm about to make a bad decision and I think about her. And I don't make that bad decision.

SPEAKER_01

These are 100% facts that can't be uh refuted. They are empirical.

SPEAKER_02

I love liquid death, my beloved drink. They have a flavor called Strawberry Terror. And the can is pink. So naturally, naturally I get that, uh, I get that for Kiara. So, um, I'm also playing Red Dead Redemption 2 while we're talking. Uh Hopefully I don't get sued. Um, or this episode get taken down. That would be a shame. But um Yeah, I'm alleviating loneliness by at this moment walking down a train. I think it's not a caboose, it's like uh the part where the people sit and they try to get themselves uh a rod wherever they go and but I just jumped off the back of the caboose. And apparently my horse was following the train the whole time. Who's a good horsey? I love Red Dead Redemption too, it is such a fun game. Although Micah is a shit bag and Dutch niece left the opium. Arch Sadie Adler don't kill you all. Devil. Reverend's drunk. Bill Williamson is he's just fucking stupid. Molly O'Shea, she's fucking hot. And Arthur should put it in her honey pot. Because we all know Dutch is not. Maybe he's boning Jose behind the tent. Lenny is next.

unknown

I'm telling you to stop in the name of the law.

SPEAKER_02

Because homie is short on rent.

unknown

God damn it, hey, I'm not fighting.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know. I'm not supposed to shoot. Somebody call me a bad word. We're gonna find that man. We're gonna shoot him. Oh! Oh, it's that kind. Okay, so we have come across a man that is in a cage. Oh, that man is not in a cage. I shot him in the penis. Is there another man to shoot in the penis? Where are you at?

SPEAKER_05

I'm gonna be losing your pinamoin.

SPEAKER_02

Well, he's dead. And what about this guy? Do we have anything fun to kill him with? I got a machete. Okay. So we'll shoot the lock. It's okay. I'm gonna shoot the lock and shoot him out of here. Did I shoot the lock?

unknown

Where's the ball?

SPEAKER_02

I'm trying. Are you dead? Oh, I guess I killed him. Oops. That's funny. Alright. Before we get into the meat of this, uh, I wanna Oh wait, are the law after me? No? I should probably go though. I should probably get out of here. My horse is all pissed off and scared. And uh, before we get into the meat of this, let me uh just get out of here. I can't tell you, I've been playing this game for I've been playing Red Dead Redemption 2 for years. It is such a fun game.

SPEAKER_00

Sometimes you think, I am John Marsden. My name is John Marston.

SPEAKER_02

Well, fuck Micah. Alright, look, if you know the story, you know how it goes. Eventually you do play as John Marston. But I digress. Let me uh hop to this, okay? So, before we get into the meat of this, I want to keep it 100% with you guys. Um sorry for the fertility and of everything here, but like this is kind of a serious episode. So I thought it'd be cool to play a video game while uh talking to you guys, you know? Kind of help me distract myself from the fuckery that is my life, and uh, you know, go from there. So I'm not here to paint Monica, who's the mother of our child, Kiara, as any form of a villain, okay? It's never been my intention, it's not my intention now, it's not gonna be my intention in the future. Any problems her and I have or disagreements are between us, we're adults, and we're gonna keep it that way, okay? I I have no intention. I'll be getting correspondence sometimes about that, and um I just want to put it out there. Again, no. When it comes to our daughter Chiara, who again, she was just here yesterday. And Monica was here yesterday, and she saw the she saw where I live, she sees I'm living okay, I'm living good. And, you know, it's a good environment. The word is the good is operative, okay? Like, if I was in a report card like Chiara, I'd be getting an S, you know, or whatever it is where you're doing above average, you know? Like, things are working out. Monica supports the bond I have with Chiara, right? She's a great kid.

SPEAKER_00

And that's a strong-looking Steve. Okay then.

SPEAKER_02

Excuse me. Normally you can interact with the people when you're walking, but I'm just watching him walk right now, talking to y'all. I'm sure the game's gonna be like, fuck you, man. You're gonna have to shoot somebody here soon. But Monica supports Ivana with Kiara and she's a great kid, and Monica does not stand in the way of us being father and daughter. When it comes to Olivia. It's different. It's silence. No, me, I think that's a defense mechanism that would make a lawyer proud, and I'll bet Dan Bullard don't blush. But it leaves a hole in the truth. Okay. I also have never made it a secret of low points in my life. We haven't really talked about high points in my life. I've got a lot of them, and I I can't wait to share them with you. But this episode ain't about making or this series, rather, sorry, isn't about making me look good. Never has been. It's about the truth for the kids. We're gonna get into that later. That'll make more sense. Yes, Dad, Sue, and Angela are being held accountable with this podcast even existing. Yeah? But Kiara and Olivia get the truth if something happens to me. Oh. Oh, and then I took a I took a life insurance policy out on me. With uh Kiara as a beneficiary. I can't, I don't think I could- I could I couldn't legally make Olivia one. Um, but neither here nor there. For example, I talked about in August 2022 when in the middle of it, we found out what Angela was doing.

SPEAKER_00

I'm sorry, boy.

SPEAKER_02

I um I had a massive, depressive episode. I'm driving around with Angela in the car. She's recording me. You know, we read that whole thing we talked about. Uh how Angela kept the recording for three months and then shared it with Monica. Like, you'd think if I was he thought I was dangerous, you would have done that shit right away. Now when it was vindictive, and I got an argument with dad because he took your side, which is the absolute wrong side of history. Like, it's like it's like I don't know, it's like being in a room with Hitler and being like, I have a choice to leave and not be a part of this or stay here and be a part of this. If I leave, no one will fall me for it, but if I stay, everyone's gonna think I'm a piece of shit in history, and you stay. That's what that's what dad and Sue are. Okay? They've been like that for years, it turns out. Uh uh any relationship or love they have with me is a lie. Always has been. A complete fucking lie. Anyway. That's funny, that guy just got hit by a fucking train, you dumb fuck. Any any love that dad or Sue ever showed me is conditional. Okay? What that means is that it's based off of a transaction.

SPEAKER_05

Welcome back.

SPEAKER_02

I would call it, I would dare call it uh transactional.

SPEAKER_05

Well, it's a bounty you acquired, ain't it?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I can't pay that shit. I got 31 cents and that bounty is how much? How much is that motherfucker bounty? Hold on.

SPEAKER_05

How can one cruise?

SPEAKER_02

790. 790? $815? 31 cents is what I've got. You do not have enough cash to pay this. Alright, anyhow. Look, when I had that massive depressive episode and I ran my mouth and said that shit about Monica and her mom. I'm not proud of it. It don't matter if I was having a depressive episode. I ain't proud of it, okay? But I I'm kind of convinced this is what reactive abuse might look like. So the system takes your worst day, your loudest breakdown, and they try to make it like your whole identity. So they never have to talk about their own betrayals. Amazing how a sentence clears some shit up really fucking fast, don't it? I'm not hiding from it. I'm owning it so it can't be used against me. I mean, you get less and less. I could imagine. Less wait, what else are you gonna go after? You went after drugs, you've gone after women I've slept with. Uh I've heard rumors about my sexuality. I don't discuss sexuality ever, not mine or anyone else's. And like, even though I got plenty of blackmail on people with their sexualities, I don't use it because I don't believe that people's sexuality is anybody's business but their own. Um this is something I stand on 10 toes with. And nobody wants to be that person to fuck around and find out. Uh, I just think we should be able to love whoever we want to love and let that be that. Now, before we start the clock, uh, let's look at some terminology and the law.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Um, the amygdala, which I've been saying this motherfucking word wrong the whole time.

SPEAKER_06

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02

Amygdala. Uh hijack. Now that's the science behind uh catching my daughter off a tree swing. Um my brain shows her safety over my survival. We're gonna hear about that. Parental alienation, and that's an active campaign to erase the parents history. Please remember the words that we're using here. If you need a dictionary, go grab one. I have reference. It's all good. North Carolina General Statute 14 hyphen one ninety six point three. Cyber stalking. Was weaponized into a crime in this state. Um, while there's an episode about it, I can't remember if it was might have been dismissed with prejudice too. It was one of the ones. But um it's relative to this. So we have to bring up the context again. And the echo chamber. Now the echo chamber is what happens when you're surrounded by people, yeah, who only tell one side of a story until the lie becomes the truth. Now I'm tired, y'all. I worked today. I went to the gym, uh, and they've been torturing the fuck out of me. And hey, look, I'm cool with that, right? You gotta remember, I spent all these years getting fat as f well. I don't know. I started out back in January at 315 pounds, and I'm at 294 right now. I'm dropping the weight. I'm doing what I gotta do. It is late, okay? Now I just fell off my motherfucking horse. But uh we're doing this now because uh truth doesn't punch a clock, okay? Now remember, you're listening to the Myers Family Conspiracy. This is season three, episode three. Now we spent some considerable time speaking uh about the Alamance County Sheriff's Office. Um we've talked about how people use institutions and the law to rewrite history, to silence whistleblowers, and to protect their own. Now, I never gonna be able to prove what happened when Deputy Henley's friends, and I'm I'm that I allege her as friends. I mean, who else would want to beat the fuck out of me two weeks later, the way that they did? Like I said, well, I haven't really talked about it. Like, I don't know what episode it's gonna be when I talk about that beating. That that was a hard beating to take. I take it. I've got my ass whooped by a lot of people. I've whooped a lot of people's ass, too. And I think that it's fair to note that the the ass whippings in my life occurred early. I got a lot of them. So I learned how to take pain. But I'm gonna tell you, this beating those 12 cops game and they fucked me up, man. And when I talk about it in detail about what happened and everything, because I think the problem I'm having right now is I can't find there's a viral video, y'all. I don't know if anyone's listening to this, but if anyone can help me. There's a seven-minute video of me in Saxbaha, North Carolina. It's S-A-X-A-P-A-H-A-W at my dad's rental when Monica and I and the kids were living there together in November of 2020 when Deputy Henley showed up trying to be an asshole about a warrant that didn't exist. And I basically kicked him off the property and we had it out verbally, and he did some dumb fuck shit, and I'd I was autistic and angry and said some very awful things to him. And well, two weeks later I got the fuck beat out of me, and well, Alamance Deathcamp conspiracy started taking a different direction, and well, it was just a whole nightmare, okay? Like, those are all episodes of their own where I've got to atone for some things, but like, neither here nor there. All I know is that I can't prove it happened, but the whole protect their own thing, I allege it, I just can't prove it. But what happens to me, people, I wonder I will I wonder, I've heard people ask me directly because my ears work.

SPEAKER_04

Um What the hell are you doing here?

SPEAKER_02

Oh, hold on, I gotta shoot this guy. I'm sorry. Hey, should I shoot him with a Lancaster? Oh, I got a machete. Ooh, let's tie him up first. Hold on.

SPEAKER_00

Get out of here now.

SPEAKER_02

He pointed a gun at me. He point y'all, he pointed a fucking gun at me. And now this motherfucker, I'm telling you right now, this motherfucker right here is just sitting here. Take these damn ropes off of me! I don't know why the hell that damn computer stopped. God damn it! Okay. I'm sorry. This is a very anybody!

SPEAKER_05

Hell!

SPEAKER_02

Oh good. Good, we're good. We're we're solid. This is a very informal episode, Joe. We're gonna get back I'm gonna get back into production like episodes. Here, let me chop him up with a machete first. Hold on a second, y'all. You gotta mind if I do this to you. Can I do it? I can do it, right?

SPEAKER_00

You having fun? I'm having fun.

SPEAKER_02

Can I hit him with a machete?

SPEAKER_00

I ain't finished.

SPEAKER_02

I can't hit him with a machete. Okay. Well, excuse me. That's un American. Well, I'm gonna shoot him with a bolt action rifle.

SPEAKER_05

Alright, man.

SPEAKER_02

Right in his dome.

SPEAKER_05

God damn it!

SPEAKER_00

You're not so tough now, are you?

SPEAKER_02

Here lies Sean Kellen Edenfield. Last words.

SPEAKER_00

God damn it!

SPEAKER_02

It's just a game. I'm just kidding. Next thing I know, he should he talked about killing me in a game. That motherfucker in jail. He can go suck dicks. And bro, even when you're out of jail, you can suck dicks. Hit me up, I'll come see you. Alright, I'm getting off topic here, y'all. That was really fun. Um look. What happens when the people who are supposed to be your blood, right? Your family.

SPEAKER_07

Come on.

SPEAKER_02

Your partners. Like dad, Angela. Sue, I was always iffy about because she's just an asshole. She's really good at being a passive aggressive asshole. She's educated. And she's not stupid by any means. Only stupidity there is Angela. Angela's dumb as fucking rocks. But like, Dad? Sue? They're really smart. Um. I just like it's like they decided the easiest way for to deal with the truth is to just perform a digital lobotomy on my history and erase me. Funny they chose the word digital because they've they that that's a field I excel in. So I'm I'm gonna have to go get some liquid death. Um look. Y'all know my name. But you don't know that today we're talking about the architecture of absolute erasure. I wanna take y'all back to 2018, right? Now, Sleepy Hollow trailer, lot 62. And uh Oh lord, I can't go fucking nowhere. This motherfucker, I want it everywhere. Holy I wanted it I have a $790 bounty there. Over there on the dead or alive. And they want me to play missions? I'm like, I just wanna fucking Oh Lord. I wonder if I'm near like a I am, I need to go to Rick Station, that's what I'm gonna do. Oh, I can't buy a ticket, I only got 37 fucking dollars. 37 cents. Oh, can I go to strawberry? Yeah, I'm already here, I'm dumb. I should probably focus on this. Maybe I can go somewhere and sell some things. We'll just go here. Um Sleep Hollow trailer number sixty-two. I was coming out of the hospital from the Nelson Rockefeller episode we talked about. Remember, we talked about Scott passing away, and I don't know how to handle the grief, and plus I was dealing with uh fallout of that relationship with Stephanie, and you know, hope she's doing well, but you know we continue doing it away from each other, I'm sure that everything will be fine for the both of us. Anywho, um, who knows, I have no idea. I talked to her for fucking ten years, I don't plan to. It's not like I'm on her list of people to speak with. I I'm not worried, just do well. Do well. Really do. Do well. And if you're doing well, I hope you do better. Uh my dad's idea of a reset for me, right, was putting me in the trailer with a roommate named Travis Lilly. Travis Lilly, good guy, loyal friend, but unfortunately a career heroin addict, and I don't even know if he's alive anymore. I don't even know if he's sober. I have no idea what he's doing. Uh two months into it, he was out. He never paid rent, he left a dirty room, a bunch of needles and shit, and like his brother came over taking pictures and stuff. It was fucking like. I was getting labeled as potentially doing that stuff because it was there in the house. I'm like, I I don't I don't fuck with I've never fucked with needles. Like to each their own, but that's just not my jam. Anywho. If you ever watch Christopher Titus, uh, you know that uh inner light bit where everything is a disaster, but you just keep moving. Well, that was me. So dad handed me a shovel and was surprised when I found myself in a hole. I don't think he was surprised. I think uh I just think there was a lot of times where dad thought I was gonna die. And hoped I would. And I never did. Like, that's just crazy to think about. It's crazy to think about. Like, why would you want your own child to die? Oh shit. Oh well, if he ain't dead, he ain't happy. Alright. Um this just it's disturbing. But things changed. So Monica, she moved in. About nine months later, Olivia moves in. And uh I hadn't uh I actually uh kicked out my old roommate and bandmate and friend, Josh Adams. Josh Adams, I kicked him out. Uh I shouldn't have done that. That was I mean, honestly, it was just kind of a dick move. I I I I I shouldn't have done it the way I did it. Uh I was very immature about it. So he he don't like he he don't like me very much. Plus, he to my understanding, he said some things to Robert Davis about me where apparently Josh Adams is a Steven Myers expert. And I'd say that if Josh had if Josh Adams was talking about me in like uh let me just think here, like in 2017 or so, for 2017 back, I think he'd be correct. But Josh wasn't there when I found out I was gonna be a dad. Like with Chiara. Josh wasn't there when I started being a father. Josh wasn't there when I took this battle, this five-year custody fight. Josh wasn't there when the successes that I will absolutely brag about and be happy for happen took place. He wasn't there for none of that shit. He wasn't there for my slip-ups and my relapses and my lack of judgments and my making things right with God in the world, and just kind of doing the best I could. And it's like, I don't know, every year or so I find somebody new that I fucked over before, and I'm like, oh well, how do I make this right? Because I don't I don't remember half the shit that happened in life right now. And there's people people who come up and are like, it happens every now and then, it's like once a year or so. I'm cool with that. Every now and then you gotta pay the Piper for being a dick. Um so we stripped down Josh's room.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And we'll talk about Josh later. We have the episode about Robert Davis's investigation into me. Uh Robert Davis, he's a owner, or co-owner, owner, rather, I'm sorry, of Alamance Bail Agents. They're uh they're a highly reputable bail company in Alamance County. And uh I like them. I mean, he he's probably a dude that I'd chill out with at a barbecue or something to hang out and talk about. I'd definitely hire him again to bail me out of jail.

SPEAKER_06

But um life is but a blink. And eternity isn't a blink. It's a lot of blinks. That's why my father called it drinking eternity. And he converted many. Holy shit, what's up? Y'all listen to this.

SPEAKER_02

What? Okay, should I kill him? I don't know if I should kill him or not. Here, let's drag him. Uh no. The stupid horse is why is a horse doing what he's doing? Oh my gosh, are you serious? That's the weirdest game glitch I've ever seen.

SPEAKER_01

Come on, just drag him.

SPEAKER_02

Oh my god. Oh, he's dead? Now I'm just dragging a body. Oh lord. I came to this town to like get away and be able to hide for a minute and just kinda like relax, talk to y'all. And then I ended up dragging the local Christian out because he wouldn't stop reading about Bible verses. Oh lord, I'm going to hell. Where's he at? Let's chop his ass. Alright. Oh shit, the cops are coming. Get out of here. Go, go, go, go, go. Go, go, go. There we go, buddy. Yes, run, run, run. Cops went right by his body, didn't even pay attention to it. Go up here. Oh, we can't go up here. That's fine.

SPEAKER_01

We'll go this way. Okay, I guess we won't. What about.

SPEAKER_02

There we are. Alright. That was amazing. That was absolutely fucking amazing. Oh my god. Jesus fucking wept. Alright, can I even go in here? Nope. Is there anybody to kill? I don't think so. Okay, cool. I can relax for a minute. Look. That room that Josh Adams slept in, we stripped that room down, we turned it into a sanctuary for Olivia. Frozen stuff in there. She was big into frozen. Uh love Spyro the Dragon. In fact, there's a story I'm not sure I could tell. When um uh how you say it. Um Olivia was playing Spy of the Dragon, Chiara found something and started doing I I I can't I can't talk about that shit right now because I don't know if I'm gonna I don't like it's just I don't know if it's proper. I'm not I'm not sure. I gotta talk to my producer about it. Like, I don't know. And plus I just don't know if I have apprehensions about things, I just don't do it, you know? So anywho. I remember pushing Olivia on a tree swing. She lets go mid-air. I don't even think, I just jumped, I caught her. I completely wrecked myself on the landing. Thank God she didn't have a scratch. She runs inside, she tells Monica, Daddy saved me. That to me is the human trail of six years of being a father. I think that's fair, yeah. So let's look at the paper trail. Years later, Monica's lawyer, uh, a guy named Dan Bullard filed a restraining order before Monica. It was December 12th of uh 2022, is when I was served. In it, they describe my relationship with the daughter I helped raise as quote, an unnatural attachment, unquote. Yeah, I'm gonna tell you something right now. You have no idea how fucking mad that shit is to me to fuck off. Like it it it it just the real truth is that it makes you want to do awful things, but you don't. So you play a video game, you find somebody working in a this guy, what's he doing here? He's working in a he's shoveling hay, and now this gentleman just took sixteen fucking bullets to the toe.

unknown

God damn the fuck.

SPEAKER_02

They took a father's love and they to me they used the legal system to try and rebrand it as a crime. I mean, Angela did. I saw the back of the 50C. I flipped the fuck out. I've talked about this openly already, and I remember another thing, I don't know if I've talked about it, was I've confronted Monica with it. I texted her. This is when we were we weren't talking yet. This is like a couple months before she decided not to renew the order, which she had renewed two times for being there for three years. Three years we didn't talk. Three fucking years. Three fucking years. A lot can happen in three years. To me, that's gaslighting like a motherfucker. Um, to take a father's love and use that legal system to try to rebrand that shit as a crime. Anyways, I texted to Monica and I called her out and I was like, this is bullshit. This is fucking total bullshit. I would never I don't know who the fuck you guys think you are. I said some awful fucking shit. I wasn't threatening, I wasn't a dickhead, I just I said some shit. I mean, goddamn, I ain't gonna be known as somebody who fucking did that shit. I didn't do that shit. The kids are the kids the kids are what the fuck? Like, like Monica brings Olivia around me, but like, won't let me see her. Like, that's fucking torture. Like, hold on. You know what? Let me walk up to this guy real quick. Like, that's torture, man. That's some fucking torture, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's just to me. I have to raise this child and she's looking at me like, is that my daddy? And you and you can't let me see her? Like, I I don't get to see this child, but like she's like right there in the car. Or she's right outside the door at the Family Justice Center. Like in any any in you don't let me see her. Oh, his head popped off. And and and what's we even worse is that like, like, what do you tell this child? Like, if it's just bullshit that I'm not her biological father. Then what was the point of what what exactly is the point of um me being a father at all when we were dating? Neither here nor there. Did I get angry? Did I scream? Absolutely. I've never hidden that. I'd rather be known as a guy who aggressively defended himself against being called a monster than someone who cowers. I think is the best way to put it. Yeah. Cause a court of law, to me, can be manipulated by lawyers like Bullard. I respect the court of public opinion more. See, to me, Dan Bullard, like, I'll let you do some fucked up fuckboy shit. He tried to pull up my Airbnb profile and tell a judge that liquid death was proof I was chugging alcohol in front of Chiara. Can you think about that shit for a fucking second? Like real talk. So I'm not known for drinking alcohol, you guys. I tell everybody the same story. You wake up somebody and you're like, hey look, Susan, you gotta go. Uh, my name is Chloe. Fuck. You still gotta go. I just no, I I was never a bad drunk. I just said this is not my jam. We're not gonna do that shit. And and uh I've already had the taco chiar about alcohol. Um I don't think that it's something a child should be exposed to like that and have available at their disposal at all, ever. And uh it won't it it won't be like that ever in my home. Um that just is what it is. I don't even keep cannabis in the home. Like again, neither here nor there. Uh let me get back to the point. Yeah, he basically tried to pull up my layer BMB profile. He told uh Judge Brown, Judge Larry Brown, same judge, that liquid death was proof of it. So I'd be chugging alcohol in front of Chiara. Now I had to look at this guy in the eye and be like it's water. Like I'm like in my head, I'm like, you fucking dumbass, bro. Like, holy shit, you are such a fucking dumbass. Like, it is so don't shoot you in the head. Hold on. Right the fucking dumb. Oh boy. I didn't shoot him in the dome. Oh, they're cops. Oops. We gotta get out of here. I didn't know they were cops. That's not good. Now they're looking all around over there. They don't even know where the fuck the gun the bullet came from. Jesus wept. Well, anywho, listen. This was like a Tom Segora bit to me. Like, it was just pure deadpan disbelief. Like, did you not do your fucking research, bro? You don't know what the fuck liquid death is. Liquid death does not make alcoholic beverages, you fucking nincompoop and sip and doter. Like, I and just why why are you it's like I don't mind you setting me up to say things that are gonna make you look stupid because you're a dick. And you and you're you're I think you're way less representing Monica's interests and way more representing Amanda's, but that's neither here nor there. Um look, this motherfucker just tried to also say my friend and I used ecstasy together because Monica mentioned Molly. She had to have. So I allege that that happened. I've got the court case on DVD. I got it from the clerk of court for a dollar of all the testimony and everything, so it happened. Um I just don't know if it's legal to use that audio in a podcast, but I do have it, and anybody can get it. It's not like I have some unique shit. But I had to channel my inner Steve Hofstetter and just ask him, are you talking about my future failed ex-wife? Are you talking about Tinder swipe? Are you talking about the drug? You need to be specific. Um, that was sometime when Brian had worded that as a monumental ass kicking, quote unquote. I was there were times where I testified and I ended up not sounding too bad, and there was times where I testified and I was a fucking monster. So I was pissed as shit. Being pissed as shit in court, it don't get you nowhere. I promise you, bro. But the legal circus is just a distraction from the real betrayal, okay? So this silence. Hold on. I need to um I need to go downstairs and get a um liquid death. So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna do that. I'm gonna go get a liquid death. And I, my friends, and my two lovely daughters, if they listen to this when they get older, we'll be right back, and then you're gonna be able to do it.

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Let's get down to business. I have my beloved liquid death.

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My sacred drink.

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We were just talking about liquid death.

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Well, I was out in California. Around May of twenty twenty one. At this point, I'm I'm sending money. Every paycheck back. That's why I was in California in the first place was to work. I wasn't there for any other reason. It was torture being away from there. And yeah, like Dan Bullard asked me in court. There, of course, there was a woman in California, but there was a woman everywhere. Like I told Dan Bullard in court. This is actual true testimony that I made. It was basically like I'm paraphrasing here. Because again, I got the audio, so I mean I just don't know if I can legally play it. If I can, I'll post it. I have no problem with that. I just need to find out. We ain't got that far in the episodes yet. And uh he's like Isn't it true that there was a woman out in California with it? I don't know if I cut him off or if he was just done. I just remember saying, yeah, but there's a woman everywhere, man. Like, so what? Who gives a shit? It's insane to me that that was even a fucking issue. Like, after this story, holy fuck. But I mean, like, I'm more impressed with it. I'm not mad. I'm really not. Just hear me out. Hear me out. Just hear me out. It's impressive as fuck. So I'm out in California, so we're on May of 2021. To my knowledge, my money's paying the bills for the house. And it has been since I went out there. Monica calls me and she says, her friend Brandon. Now, Brandon is a transgender guy. She knows from Skills for Kids, martial arts in Graham, North Carolina. He was the trans, or I'm sorry, he's a transgender man. That's not what I meant to say. He was the children's instructor for martial arts. I can't get words right. Was being abused and needed a place to stay. Alright, like, I'm like, I trusted her. I said yes. And yeah, it's true. Our relationship was on the outs. Because, like, I again, I got Angela telling me in my ear, number two of the four things she said that were awful about Monica, that uh Monica just either doesn't know about or care about. But she had said that um Monica was going to leave me for a guy that wasn't a guy. Um me, I don't care about uh, like I said, I don't talk, I don't care about sexuality. I feel the same way about gender. I don't care about it. I don't care about your pronouns, I don't care about any of those things. Because I don't I don't like have an issue with them. Like they don't bother me. Like you can have whatever you want, you can live your life, be happy. I'm I'm fine with that. Like, I don't introduce myself as anybody other than my name and couldn't care less about anybody else's, like how they introduce themselves because to me that's their personal choice, that's their life, and I respect and absolutely think it's great that they can do that and be happy with themselves. Like, I just don't care. Like, it's something I I don't I don't care. I just don't care. Um what I care about, right, is that this is what she didn't tell me. Brandon wasn't just a friend. Like I said, he's a martial arts instructor for Kiara, or for Olivia, rather. Olivia. We were paying for Olivia to go to Skills for Kids. So I'm out west working to keep a roof over our heads. I come back once a week for a month up until when Brandon started moving in there, which I got hurt at work and I couldn't go anywhere for three months, and finally was like, Can I just go back home? And they're like, Yeah, and so I did. And that was that. Um, Monica moved him into the bed. Now he didn't just take my place. Let me tell you something. Motherfucker's wearing my clothes. He's taking pictures with my cat. We're getting engaged on the beach and while I'm 3,000 miles away. Like he's posting this shit on Instagram under like a King Brandon thing. It's still there. And I got screenshots, so it's not like it'll go away, but holy shit, dude. So when I confronted her and talked to her about it, like she like I wasn't mad. I I tried to be really cool about it because like I realized where I'm at right now. I'm 3,000 miles away and like my kids, I don't know, I don't know this person. I don't know. It turns out now that yeah, Brandon's trustworthy around the kids. That ain't that ain't an issue. Okay, we're that's not a problem. He their father, as far as I'm concerned, I'll never acknowledge that, but he's definitely go ahead and let Monica get a divorce and marry her, and then stepdaddy materials all you all you with open arms, um, but nothing else. Uh anywho, she didn't have an explanation really. She just made a joke about me being replaced. And uh when I got back and I went up Skills for Kids showing my ass, as they say. So she says Brandon lost his job over this. And essentially, like, I I believe he blew up his own life to sneak into mine. I mean, look, like, I get how fucked up my relationship with Monica, but based off of the shit Angela was telling me, like, you know, I feel like Angela was pushing me away from ever getting back with Monica. And and uh I could prove it. Um conversations that we've had. Documented shit, like emails, like it's it's all on the iPhone. Um I'm hoping to have that opened up by next month or it's like a $2.50 price tag just to get the screen replaced so I can get access to the phone. I have the password hidden, so we're good with that. But it's safe. Broken doesn't mean destroyed. So let me pause here. Now I'm not bringing this up because I'm sitting around furious at Monica about the affair. I'm really not. Fuck no. If you've listened to this podcast, you know I've admitted I was unfaithful first. I started that fire. And she finished it. Now, two wrongs don't make a right, but honestly, I almost admire the genius of how she pulled it off. Everybody hated me. I just didn't know it. Nobody would talk to me, nobody would tell me anything to my face. It was all behind my back. And then when I got the first ex parte complaint, and I'm reading this, I'm like, are you fucking serious? You what? You motherfuckers. What? Ooh, is that a bear? Hold on, hold on. Fuck. Oh, we're gonna shoot this motherfucking bear. And we're gonna shoot him in his fucking dick. Hold on. Come here. Come on, come on, come on, come on. Alright, ready, ready? One, two. Shit. In the dome. He just took a bullet to the dome. He's still alive? Uh-oh, you gotta die. Oh, he is dead. Hell yeah. I got him. I fucking got him. I shot him twice. Hopefully, hopefully, uh well, let's see. Hold on. Let's. Before we continue this story, let's go see about this bear. Hang tight. Alright, there he is. Let's see what- wait, is that where he is? Oh, he's floating down the river. Fuck. Get back here, you fat bitch.

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Come here. Come on.

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What? You're not gonna stop? He's just fucking floating? Bro, get over here. What are you doing? I wanna fucking I wanna skin you. What's going on? There we go. Alright, I got it. Alright. Oh my god. So what did I get? A poor bear pelt? Big game meat, bear claw. Animal fat. That's what I wanted. I'm gonna drop the bear pelt because I don't care about that dumb thing. Now let's go find our horsey. Horsey, I've gotta finish telling a story now, okay? Is that a bird? Get back here. Gotcha. Gotcha too. Ah. Two dead birds falling down. Another dead bird. Listen to the sound. Bang. No, that's the horse. Don't shoot the horse. Okay. Look. Wait, is that another horse? Oh. Fuck the fucking cops! Alright, you know what? We gon' fuck these guys in their fucking asses. Come here. Right to the fucking dome your mother before. Ass. Came ready to get fucked in your mother's face. Oh yeah, you are dead. You are dead. Alright, where's that other pig? Fuck this thing, get the hell out of here. Oh shit, we're leaving. Oh they got me. I'm dead as fuck. Alright, look. Like I said, I almost admire the genius of how she pulled it off, okay? The only real ammunition Monica has against me at this point is who I was as a boyfriend and as a fiance, but we aren't together anymore. So who cares? None of that shit matters now. I don't care. I'm about like I'm I don't even I beyond acknowledging it here as a universal truth that's relevant for context to this story, I couldn't care less. What matters is we have a kid to raise. And she owes me answers about Olivia as far as I'm concerned. Now, if she won't give them to me, that's fine. I'm just gonna get those answers from Olivia when she turns 18. Who's gonna stop me from talking to her? I'll be damned, I promise you. Nobody. Except for Olivia herself. If she's like, I don't want to talk to you, that'll break my heart. And I'll just walk away. And I'll I'll I'll take that to my grave, and I guess it'll be what it is. God, I fucking hope not. That wasn't the case. But when that day comes where I get to talk to her and answer questions and provide evidence, Olivia's going to learn exactly how fucked up this whole eraser really was. Like not sure why it could be anything else, but now my sister Angela. Look, she gathered intel while I was at my lowest. It turns out that this bitch was recording everything I was saying. And like, if you're gonna do it. It's legal, but if you're gonna do it uh uh unscrupulously, you're just a cunt. And a stupid one at that. Cause all they used was that sentence where I said that awful thing about her and the gun and then said fucking about punching her mother in the face. Like, who gives a shit? Like, I can name fucking half a dozen people that want to punch her mother in the face. It doesn't mean they're gonna do it, it doesn't mean I'm gonna do it, doesn't mean I did do it, I didn't do it. Why are I thinking we're still like why are we back at this fucking Venn diagram of retarded shit and shit that's never gonna fucking happen? Like, go fuck yourselves. Like, I'm so done with it. Um out of all those recordings that she had, apparently, that's all she fucking got was me saying that. Like, that's all oh, and then I farted and they put that in the end of the fucking thing. Like, he played my loud fart, and Angela going, Steven, I'm just thinking, like, you played that in court, like you're just kind of cunts. Like, I can give you a real one if you want, motherfucker. Like, how about you just give me a second and I'll blast one in your fucking dome, prick. But whatever. It was just like he played it to make me angry. I know he did. He's such a dick. Like, fuck you, damn board. You're such a piece of shit. But Angela, like, this is the same sister who still owes me $1,700. And she also filed a false charge under under uh North Carolina General Statute again, 14 hyphen 196.3. Uh hyphen, sorry, 14 hyphen 196.3. Because of uh iPhone to Android glitch, broke one text into 34 pieces. Or 36, it was one of the two. I can't remember the number. Who cares? It was who who gives a fuck many of times. And she took food out of my kid's mouth, as far as I'm concerned, to fund a bullshit charge that she didn't show up for fucking three out of six times, the last three in particular. To fund this bullshit charge, because she didn't want to pay me back. So as far as I'm concerned, you're a fucking thief, Angela, and fuck you. Like I said, I've said publicly, I've said to your fucking face, oh, and here's your fart, bitch. Oh, that was a bad fart. That wasn't even a good one. I still hope it fucking gives you fleas in places you can't scratch, you stupid cunt. But um look, when I look at the Alamance County Sheriff's Office, even though, like, I got no beef with them no more. And then I look at my dad and my sisters, there's one word that describes all of them, and that's conniving. And that kind of brings us to where we are now. Y'all don't mind that I hit my vape pens, do you? I think what I really enjoy about these is the quickness that the cannabis indica gets to me. So I am able to function and have a high quality of life. Um doesn't smell. I still can't do it around my kid. Like I I won't even smoke around her, but I don't have to, because I gotta I get to see my princess.

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Everyone is happy by me. Everyone found someone by me. That does not make me happy. How does the punk rock girl find her prince? How does the dope horror find her effects? How does the country pumpkin find her simple? How does the neon fashion need to find her next target? It's darling the kids. It's darling how you move your mouth, it's darling you as burn mind It's all on me not deserving.

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But I kinda needed it. Talking about this stuff gets me depressed, y'all. Like I can I know that it's uh it's no secret, I I work off a script. I write the script out. I just have it written out so I don't get off topic and I just read. I have a script in front of me now. But there's times where you should have uh the ability to adapt. The adaptation and the adaptation the adaptation comes here forthwith. Where I have to um refer to the script along with the candid conversation that allows me to best convey whatever I'm trying to say. Yeah? So am I fucking wanted to hear? I'm fucking wanted to hear this bullshit. You know what we're gonna do? You know why I love PlayStation? I can just do this and go right to Grand Theft Auto 5. We're gonna go fucking kill some cops and some hookers. Fuck yeah, dude. Let's have some fun. Chiara loves Grand Theft Auto 5, by the way. We we I turn on the volume, so like, of the radio, and uh we have an understanding that the um are we not connected to the internet? Oh, it is, okay. Um we have an understanding that Kiara understands that video games aren't real. Yeah, they're not real. Um, you don't do things you see in video games. She understands that video games are things that you can play to reward yourself for doing good or just to waste time, and that the wasting time part should not be a lot because it can take up your life really quickly. And that hello, Michael. And and with that being said, if somebody says fuck in the game, she's not gonna go say fuck. She knows better. She's here. Let me fix this mic. Sorry, I'm so sorry. She's she's uh she's not an idiot. Chiara is not stupid by any fucking means. Now, is she six years old? Yes. To the fucking core. Is she stupid? Fuck no. This kid is smart as shit. Holy fuck. Fucking smart as shit. Anyways. I've decided that I'm going to reach out to Monica one more time about this Olivia situation. I'm gonna do it by email, right? I I don't want her to be pressured. I think she might be pressured in a text message and she might read that shit. Like oh god, excuse me, please. I'm so sorry. Like she might read that shit in in the worst voice that she possibly could. Hell yeah, here we go. Um, and and I just would rather I'd rather it be like it don't gotta be verbose. Like, I don't mind having a long podcast episode. Here, I'm gonna cut this down because I don't know how loud that motherfucker is.

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And uh let's turn you down. One now do you okay, we're good. Alright.

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We'll steal this car and just fucking Oh, I hit the car right there. Look. I just don't want her to be reading it and hear an angry voice. I want her to read it and hear the voice of a father who just I don't care what people have said to her about me at all, but won't say to me about me. I don't care about what she thinks she knows about me over the years. I don't care if she thinks that I'm gay or straight or a serial killer or an addict of I don't know, fucking medium rare steaks and Resident Evil and Fat Chicks and Grand Theft out of five. All I care about is that Monica and I are able to raise Kiara, which we are, and then I need closure when it comes to Olivia because this this this this is fucking bullshit. That's all I can say. I'm not trying to talk bad about nobody here, I'm trying to get to the fucking bottom of this. Because I know what I know, and I've called everyone out openly about what I know. I'm very, very fucking openly. And there has been zero pushback, zero response. Yeah, think somebody would fucking say something. Holy shit. If somebody talked to me like that, we'd be in the fucking street, even if I'm getting my ass whipped.

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I'm sorry.

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Promise. Like dead ass promise that. That is not even fucking how you would say that shit. Alright, let's go. Boom, get out of here. Now, look at. Uh I gotta kinda also research like like I gotta think about how I would want to be talked to. So Monaka's type one, autistic like me. Turns out though, I mean like she is way better with the social cue shit. Oh my god. I think it's a crazy being a woman too. Plus, like she is a tough cookie, man, I'm gonna tell you right now. Like it'd be like that. So let's uh let's see here. Uh but I think what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna send the email probably tomorrow. I'm gonna give her a week. Maybe I'm gonna wait till Wednesday. I'm gonna send till Wednesday and I'm gonna give her a week because tomorrow I want to talk to her and see if maybe I can like get an extra hour on Sunday. And I wanna make sure I get that extra hour before I piss her off. I don't wanna piss her off intentionally, it's just I know she's gonna read it and be like, what the fuck? I've really gotta there's a real there's a real deadline here. Like you you really have to say something. Yeah, you you absolutely oh shoot, that was a motorcycle. You absolutely do. We absolutely have to have this conversation.

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Um awesome.

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Here, I got a minigun. Well, like I said, we need to have this conversation. Now, if I don't hear from her to me, that's just gonna be my cue. She does not owe me a response, we're gonna acknowledge that. Uh nobody owes anybody a reply, but uh I think I've fucking earned one. I think we'll leave it at that. That'll be the sign that she's never gonna talk to me about these things, and now if that happens, I'm just gonna have to put everything I know into the podcast for the kids. So they can actually know the truth. Oh boy. Y'all, this is where I'm gonna die. I am not I got two of them before one of them got me. They just gotta be lucky at one time, though. All good. Look, if that shit happens where nobody talks to me, and that's what's gonna continue to happen, I'm just gonna have to uh put it everything I know into this podcast for kids. Excuse me. Look, this way they can actually know the truth. I I think I talk about it here in a little bit, but I don't really I don't really trust her. I don't trust Amanda to talk talk about I I don't trust anybody in the family to tell the truth about what happened.

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You're a bitch!

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And I don't know I don't trust uh well here's the problem. There is a chance that I can trust Monica to tell the truth about what happened. Okay, because I think Monica will eventually hear this podcast and will realize that I have not been flattering talking about myself, and that in doing so I've been able to tell the truth. People will tell a doctor's version of themselves to make themselves look good, they won't acknowledge where they fucked up and shit. I've talked about the cheating and the drugs, like I've talked about everything, like I've already acknowledged it all. I've even done some of it in court, some of it in the podcast. But like Brian said, after his exact quote was, well, after we get to court order, you can do whatever the fuck you want. I just barreled into like six people standing on the road while we were talking. I'm sorry, here's four more, hold on. Here's two more. Here's one, one, one. This game is amazing. You have no idea how cathartic this is. There's another one. There's a fire hydrant. Here's another one. There's two. Oh this is amazing. There's one more. Oh, this is just the greatest game in the world. I mean, I just ran over like fucking 30 people and if you did this in Burlington, you would be dead in like fucking seconds. Can you imagine? They'd be killing you in the fucking street. No way that I'd be fucking sitting here. Driving up a fucking Oh, here we go. Just jumping off, jumping out of the car, gonna die. Oh, I didn't fucking die. Holy shit. That's amazing. Come here, come here, come here, don't, don't, don't get away. Now we got a fucking motorcycle. But let me get back to this real quick. I have to be the one to do it. I'm out here saying things about myself that are less flattering, okay? Things that are very hard to hear. But they are the truth. Not everything's a bucket of shit. But what is is. Whatever I'm accountable for, I'm accountable for. I have no fear of that accountability. But that should make what I have to say much more valid than any vitrail or hyperbole the other side tries to bring up. And that's really the reality of it.

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Out at every single lock.

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I allege people like Dan Bullard or my sister Angela, they bank on you staying silent because you're embarrassed of your low points. I'm not. Alright, like I'm over that shit. I'm doing so good right now, you have no idea. I'm a king. I'm a fucking king. I used to be. I know what I am now. Monica is a perfect line for her lawyer because she won't talk about anything but the I'm a worse than ever for a lawyer because I talk about everything. I didn't do any fucking thing he said. I fucking hold on. Oh Lord, I talked about a bit of it. I don't know. I haven't talked about it extensively. There's a lot. And like, Brian said at one point, if he ever wrote a book about this thing, holy shit, like he like that was his quote. Like he's a good wordsmith. And I Brian's a great lawyer. And from what I heard, he's a great judge. We never have to fucking find out. I wish I listened to him. I've been talking uh uh very briefly via email uh attorney, uh the assistant county attorney Kwame O'Hara. To me, I find him to be an honorable guy who've been going back and forth on public records and be very clear with me about what the Sheriff's Office has and what they've withheld under North Carolina General Statute 132 Hear-1.4. That's a lot of numbers, right? But essentially, in layman's terms, that means that the uh police don't have to share with you shit that they think is sensitive. Let's just, you know, I I think that's a very fair thing. But like that leads us to next week. Now I've got the accident report, right? From September of 2020. This is case number 2020 hyphen zero nine hyphen two zero four. Someone hold on, we're gonna try to jump first. I'm gonna try to jump on this train. I did not jump on the train. Some white woman laughed at me though, so you know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna come up here with a machet or a minigun, and I'm gonna kill like 30 people.

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Hell yeah.

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Like the things you can do in this game that you should never do in real life are astounding.

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Wait a second.

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You can literally dive. You get if you jump, if you jump by hitting square and hit circle at any point, your character dives. He dives into uh whatever he's doing. It could be head first, he could do a flip, it's a number of things. It's astounding. And like you can jump and do you do that in front of a car to stop the car. Oh, here's some people. You can do it, you can stop in front of a car. Wow, there's some people too. Look, I'm missing the point. Someone called the law and told them I was running a girl up. Wait, doesn't that sound familiar? Somebody calling the sheriff's apartment and being like, Steven Myers is a growing marijuana. So the two detectives showed up at 5667 Church Road. Let's do that shit. And uh They were ready, I'm sure, to find a warehouse of cannabis. Got him. Um I'm gonna read you that report. I'm gonna tell you exactly how I handled that search. I'm gonna tell you exactly what they found, and the happy ending that proves snitches in this county aren't as clever as they think they are. And before we go, the microphone stays on, my friends. Catch you next week. Until then, just hold it down and remember. Love your family. Hold them close. Don't let them forget who you are.

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Now let me go get another look at death.

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George, motherfucking my god!

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Michael save the world when he destroyed all of the nasty world water.