Tis the Season

Creep 2

'Tis the Season Podcast Episode 8

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Welcome back to another episode of Tis' the Season! It's another solo episode week with Meredith. Listen as she dives into the next move in the Creep series, Creep 2.

Join her as she discusses Josef's, now Aaron's, newest victim, Sara. From answering a strange ad online, to randomly getting naked with one another, and her growing uneasiness as the night goes on. 


So join now as we move through this sinister story. Maybe just don't listen to it at night. 

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Hey, this is Meredith and you're listening to Tis the Season. Okay, so I don't really have any business to talk about before this. I just finished the movie. Um, I'm kind of quaking right now. I forgot how crazy this second movie is because I did creep last week. This week. creep too. Yes? I forgot how crazy this movie is, okay? I don't think you guys are ready. I'm not ready to talk about it. Uh, but here we are. And Emma got back from her trip. It was a great trip. She had so much fun. I'm glad she's back. It feels like peace has been restored to the universe because she's an earth sign, you know, she keeps everything grounded. And I'm a water sign, and all my signs are like water and air. So I'm not a very grounded person, I guess. But you know, she she she restored that balance in my life, and that's really all I needed. But here we are, and we're gonna be talking about Creep 2. So, anyways, she is still recovering from getting back from her trip. It was a long flight, she had to go back to work, so it's just me today talking about Creep 2, and again, I forgot how crazy this movie is, so I hope everyone enjoys. So it opens up and this guy opens his package, and we don't know who this guy is, he's just a rando, and he pulls out this DVD. We already know from last time that the DVD is a bad sign because it's from our lovely friend Joseph. That's not his name in this movie, by the way. We'll find out what it is. And I'm just gonna continue to call him Joseph, though, because if I don't, it's gonna confuse me, and I feel like it might confuse you if you listen to the other episode. Which, if you haven't listened to the other creep episode, listen to that one first because you'll need to know what happens to that one for some of the stuff in this one, okay? So it's just this random guy, and he also pulls out this camera, but it's stuffed inside of like a stuffed animal. You can see the fur around the camera lens, and you can tell he's very visibly shaken, and he puts this DVD in, and it's just a video of someone whistling, and he's very taken aback, and someone then knocks on the door, he goes to answer it, and guess who it is? It's our friend Joseph. He walks in, and he's like, So, what happened? And he's acting like he's fucking clueless about this DVD and this whatever camera on this stuffed animal. And this guy is like, Well, you know how I've been getting these materials, like these DVDs and whatnot from this guy or whoever it is, like they're stalking me. They just sent me this, I just opened it, and he goes on to play the rest of the video for Joseph. And this video was literally taken in this guy's house. So, and we already we already know that it's Joseph, okay? We don't need to hide that. Joseph snuck into this guy's house, videoed the house, and this guy's sleeping, which he did that to Aaron in the last movie as well. So I'm not surprised, but he's like, okay, you know, why don't we have something to drink and we go sit down at the table, blah blah blah blah. So this guy goes into the kitchen to get some beer, and Joseph turns his head to the camera, and he reveals that it's inside of a stuffed wolf. Bro, not the fucking stuffed wolf again. So it's in the stuffed wolf, and he smiles at the camera and he kind of giggles to himself, and he gets up closer to the camera, and it's kind of just like a a watch this type of type of deal. I don't even know how how else to say that, I guess. And so he says some random stuff to the camera, and he's like, hey, hi, and he turns the camera to the table, which I don't know how the guy didn't notice that, but you know, maybe I'm just really perceptive. I don't know. So he turns to the table and they're talking, and all of a sudden, Joseph is like, Well, you know, I have something to reveal to you, and he's like, you know, this friendship started off really steamy, and at first I thought he was gonna be like really gay about it. Like, I thought it was gonna be gay, not that he was gonna be gay about it, but like I thought that for a second he was wanting to like be boyfriends for some reason. Maybe it's because I'm gay, or maybe it's because I just finished doing the heated rivalry stuff with Emma in our last episodes. I don't know what it was, but hopefully, you know, you understand what I'm saying about the gayness. Like, I just can't help with the gayness, but that's not where it was going. And he's revealing to him that, you know, he's kind of upset that this friendship isn't as steamy as he wants it to be. And so then he reveals that it was him who has been sending him the stuff, and he's been videoing him since he met him, and we have no clue how long they've known each other. Okay, could be a couple days, it could be weeks, it could be months. Like, we have no clue. And obviously, this guy is like, what the actual fuck are you talking about? And she's Joseph, Heep, Joseph just goes on to say, Well, you know, whatever happens tonight, it's not your fault. Babes, we know it's not his fault, okay? Like, we know you're about to do some fucked up shit, and so they're continuing to talk to each other, and Joseph just randomly kills him on video. I mean, all the kills he does are on video because this is a pattern, yes? And he just randomly kills him as this guy's talking, and then he's just kind of like, oh, darn. What do you mean, darn? Bro, what? That's just the intro of the movie, okay? So we already know this is about to have some crazy shit in it. So we transition to this other girl who is going to be the other main character in this movie. Her name is Sarah, and she has her own like YouTube channel, YouTube show, I guess you would call it. And it's just called like encounters, and she answers weird ads on Craigslist or wherever, and goes to these people's houses and films it. And a lot of them are just like, Oh, I'm lonely, come talk to me. And there's some that are like, Oh, I want you to mommy me and like be my therapist type of stuff. So she's been going to these people's houses and you know, mommying them or talking to them, or they just have like a story to tell and she'll film it, whatnot, that that kind of stuff. But none of it is like interesting, I guess I would say. So it's just kind of like boring. And then as we're seeing these videos, the camera turns to her, and she's like, you know, I I really don't know why I'm doing this because no one's watching it. Like, she literally has no views on her videos, and she says the finale for her show is going to be encountering her failure. And I I thought that was kind of funny because I mean, like, she makes a joke out of it, like, her video's not doing well, but then we cut to the next more, and she's like, Yeah, I was just being dramatic, and then she reveals the unfortunate ad that she finds from Joseph, okay. And there's like no info in this ad. The camera pans to the ad. There's like no information in this ad. I don't even know why you would answer an ad that has like no information in it. Maybe that's just me. Maybe it's because I watch a lot of true crime stuff. I have no clue. Okay. But she finds this ad, and all it says is like, I'm looking for someone to film me for a day. It's a thousand dollars. I just want you to get deep with me. Like, quote unquote, get deep with me. She's like, Oh my gosh, this looks interesting. What about that looks interesting, girl? Nothing about that is appealing. Get deep with me. That's weird, okay? But I guess that's like her vibe. I don't know. I literally wrote, Ain't no way. Ain't no way. Because sorry, I just yawned, excuse me. Because, um what why are we answering these ads, bro? So it comes to her meeting up with him, and it's again in the middle of the woods, uh, red flag. I would just turn around, and in the car, she's even saying she doesn't know anything about this guy, she doesn't know anything about what she's about to be doing. And after he sent her the address, he's been ghosting her. Like, first of all, middle of the woods, Annie's ghosting you. I don't know about all that, but I would just if I even accepted the ad, I would be going home because I would be feeling that in my gut, that it's not to be trusted. You know what I'm saying? Like, always trust your gut, guys. But she ends up going, anyways. She gets out of the car, she walks to the front door, and the front door just opens. Another red flag is just unlocked, and she walks in and she's kind of looking around. She's like, Hey, you know, hello, anyone here? And all of a sudden the blender turns on, she turns around, and Joseph is just in the kitchen with the blender on, making one of those green ass smoothies, and he's got a man bun, he's got a full beard now. He's in his granola girl era. That is all I gotta say. Like, he's very much wearing like those hiking sandals, not the tacos, but it's like the clothes-toed ones. You probably know what I'm talking about. If not, um just look them up, you'll you'll see them. But they're also they can also be like water shoes. I don't know how else to describe them. They're just they're like the I don't know, they just made them look really like outdoorsy. I was about to say like a hiking person, I don't know, but like outdoorsy is what I mean, okay. And he comes over and he introduces himself. Guys, his name is literally Aaron. He introduces himself as Aaron, which is the guy from the last movie. Um, this man is so fucked up, and she's like, Oh, okay, well, my my name's Sarah, like, nice to meet you. And they're just kind of talking, and he gives her some of the smoothie. And he's like, Okay, you know, is it okay if I give you a hug? Bro, it's always that damn hug. Why does he always start everything with this goddamn hug? Like, he's always like, uh, you know, I I want to hug, or is that okay with you? And at least he's like asking, but I think that's also just him trying to make her comfortable, so then she lets her guard down because he's a serial killer and he does that so he can kill people. So I think that's what he's doing. But then they go sit on the couch and he's like, Okay, you know, I just want to tell my story. And she's kind of like, Okay, like what's what's your story? And he's like, Well, I'm a serial killer, like just comes out and says it. Who says that? And then he says he's killed 39 people, but he's coming up on his 40th video or his 40th birthday, which I I don't know, it's so weird that like the amount of videos and then his age lines up. I don't know if he's he's probably probably lying. Like, I think he lies about everything. I don't think anything he says ever is truthful. Like, I genuinely don't think we as viewers know anything genuine about him. Like, there's nothing genuine about him. He's always lying. And he's saying all this stuff about how he's a serial killer, and obviously uh it she doesn't believe him. I mean, I wouldn't either. I'd be like, what the hell are you talking about? And he's just like, you know, I want to make a documentary about being a serial killer that nobody knows. And he's like, if that's too scary or whatever for you, you can bail. Miss Girl says, Oh, you know, I'm into it. Oh my god, no, you're not. You're actually not into it. I don't think the views are worth it at all, actually, because even if he says he's a serial killer and you don't believe him, uh he's a man, and I if someone if a man said that he was a serial killer, I would actually run the opposite direction. I don't think I would stay. Um, I would be leaving. I mean, I wouldn't have even shown up, but I would be leaving. But she's like, no, I'm into it, you know, it's fine. And then she like goes to the bathroom, and actually, no, she doesn't. So before she goes to the bathroom, which she still does go to the bathroom, just so you know, but before she goes to the bathroom, he's like, I have to show you something because he's like, I want her to believe that I'm a serial killer, basically. But at the same time, I don't think he cares if she believes him or not. Like, he's just like, whatever. So they go into this other room and he pulls up the video from the last movie of him killing Aaron at the park, and she's just like, What is this? and he's like, just wait for it, wait for it. And he finally shows up, he shows the clip, and she's just like, Wow. Like, I don't even think that she processes that as it being real. I just think she's like, Wow, that's a really weird video. Like, I I don't know what else to say. She's just kind of like, Oh shit. And then she just turns the camera to herself and she's like, Oh yeah, that's interesting. And he's like, Well, are you scared? And she's like, Do you are am I supposed to be scared? And it kind of zooms in onto the axe that's in the house, and it's the same axe that he used to kill Aaron. Mind you, these are rentals. So he literally planned this ahead of time, hung up the axe inside the rental house, like babes. This is this is already so so messed up. And so then he's like, Okay, I have an idea. And he runs up the stairs, and she's like, Okay, comes back down, he's only wearing a towel, he's naked now. If that was me behind the camera, if I was Sarah, I would be like, Wow, I'm really scared right now, and I don't like this, and I don't know what to do. And he's just like talking about boundaries, and he's like, you know, when there's men in the locker room and they're snapping towels at each other's genitals, like there's no walls, or when you're in a dressing room with women as a woman, you know, there's no walls, but between a man and woman, there's a bunch of walls, and we should bring those walls down, you know. And so she's just like, okay, and he's like, you know, as man, as a man and a woman, I'm wondering what you look like naked. Bitch, what the fuck? If someone said that to me, I'd be like, Alright, I'm I'm heading out because this is really messed up. And he all of a sudden just drops his towel. Bro, everything is out. I mean, everything. Okay, completely naked. Um, if I was her, I genuinely would not know what to do. I'd be like, wow, oh my god. This is great, guys. This is crazy. I I genuinely like I I'm at a loss for words. I don't even know what to say. Like like it's I don't even think there's a appropriate response to this. Like, I I there's so much silence right now because I I my brain can't even think about what to say if I was in that situation. But then, guys, this girl's low-key kinda kinda crazy because then she goes, Well, can it be my turn now? My turn, my turn to do what get naked? So then she she oh my god, there's something so loud outside. I don't know what the hell they're doing, but they're like working on a pipe or something, so please ignore that. Anyway, but she's like, Okay, now it's my turn. So then he gets the camera, he sits down and is filming her. She's taking off her clothes, but all we see of her is her face, so he zooms the camera in on her face, so we don't actually see what she looks like. Like all he's paying attention to is her face. He doesn't care about the body, so I think he's lying, and I think maybe he only cares about like what the victims look like facially, maybe not their body. I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. Someone could maybe tell me I'm wrong, and that's fine. But after that happens, she goes to the bathroom and she's like sitting on the toilet and she has the camera set up. She's like, oh shit, oh shit, oh shit. She doesn't know what to do. And she's like, everything is a red flag, but this is exactly what I'm looking for for my web series. Okay, your web series is not that serious. Please get out of here. Like, this is not funny, this is not a game. And I'm laughing because I would feel so uncomfortable. And she's just like, you know, he says he's a serial killer. I don't believe him, but just in case, I'm putting this knife in my in my sock, and uh, we're just gonna hope for the best. Girl, we don't need to hope for the best, we need to get out of there, we need to get the fuck out of there. That's what we need to do. So she comes out of the bathroom and he tries to scare her multiple times, and she's not phased at all, which like good for her. I'd probably shit a brick if someone tried to scare me like that and I don't know them. And then we cut to them in the car because, of course, they have to drive somewhere for this interview. They're always they're always going out to the middle of the fucking wilderness to do these interviews. It pans over, he's wearing that stupid wolf mask driving. I don't even know how he can see out of it, but I didn't notice this in the first movie. But the eyes on the wolf mask are blue. That makes it so much creepier. Like people with blue eyes, me included, they always have that blue eye stare. It's so creepy, and for it to be on that wolf mask is even creepier. And also, I guess it's just creepy because we know what he did in the first movie. Um, she doesn't know that because obviously she wasn't there, but knowing that, and I don't know, there's just something creepy about the blue eyes, guys. Maybe, maybe I'm going crazy, but they finally got out the car and they're on this trail, and she keeps asking him. She's literally like asking him 20 billion bajillion questions, and he's like, just wait, I have the perfect spot. So they finally get to this perfect spot, and he starts crashing out because all the water that was quote unquote there before is now gone. Like apparently the river was way higher, and he was gonna stand in the middle of it, submerged, and have a Jesus moment. Maybe that's why he grew his hair out and has a beard now. I have no clue. But he was gonna stand in the water and do the interview like that. Babes, where is the videographer gonna stand? Where's she gonna be in the water as well? Like, I don't understand. But he starts crashing out and he's like, Oh my god, like the perfect interview spot is ruined, blah blah blah. And she's just like, it's okay, you know, we're gonna get through this. Let's just do the interview, anyways, you know, it's still gonna be good. So then he's like sitting in the water, and he's like, Yeah, you know, I had this perfect scene laid out, and you see that bridge up there, I was gonna jump off the bridge, land in the water. Like, this whole man was about to do some parkour, or he's like one of those toddlers that's like, mommy, look what I can do, and they do like the stupidest thing in the world, and you're like, Wow, sweetie, that's great. That's literally him. But if he would have jumped off the bridge, he probably would have died because even with the water level he was talking about, he still would have hit the bottom really hard because the bridge was really high up. So I don't know what he really had in mind, and he could be lying as well because all he does is lie. So, but we already knew that. And they're trying to do this interview, and it keeps getting interrupted, and he's getting frustrated, and he is repeatedly throwing rocks at the birds because the birds keep chirping, there's airplanes flying overhead, and eventually he's like, Okay, I just need a break, so he disappears, like he did in the first movie, and of course she has to go find him. She goes and follows him, and she's just like, Hey, where are you? Like, I I am left here by myself, and all of a sudden she starts hearing growling. Girl, run away, ain't no way. She finally finds him, he's face down, like flip face planted into the sand, growling into the sand, and she reaches out to touch him to like I guess comfort him, which that would not be me personally. But then he starts holding her hand, and she's just like, Hey, you know, it's it's okay. Like everything's fine. Is it though? Like, I don't know if I like these vibes. I would like to get out of here, please. Anyway, we cut to the next scene. They're back at his place. And she's like, Yeah, he's been in a weird mood ever since. Like, he I found him in the sand, and he's been playing the same music on repeat. And it's just really weird music she's never heard before. And so she finally goes and finds him, and he's sitting in the dark in this hot tub listening to this music. And this music is like blaring. It is so loud. Like it's not like subtle music, it is so loud on the speaker. And he's like, I want you to leave. You need to leave. And she's like, no. I don't know. She's giving that energy of like I can fix him type of vibes that um I personally don't like. And these vibes are gonna get her in a lot of trouble, unfortunately. But she doesn't leave, and instead, she turns the music off, and they start arguing because he wants her to turn it back on, and she's like, Why do you want me to turn this song on? And he's like, Well, let me tell you the story. So he tells this whole story about how when he was in high school, when he was 15, he actually looked 18, so he was able to get into music scenes without being ID'd. And one night he went to this bar and there's this weird band playing there, but it was the only night they were there, and they were playing this song called Sarah Loves Her Juicy Fruit. How ironic. And he really loved the song, and the band invited him out because they thought he was older, and he partied with them all night, and then the next morning he was walking back home because he had to go home, and some guy pulled over, and he picked him up, and instead of taking him back home, he took him to the woods, and he had a grave dug, and that he like beat him and almost killed him, and then made him dig his own grave. Um babes, where the hell is this story going? Like, I feel like he's just making this shit up on the spot. I don't even think he thinks this through. He's just like, whatever comes out of his mouth, that's the story. That's what I feel the vibe is. And so he's like, yeah, I dug my own grave, and then he tied me up, and instead of feeling scared, I felt really inspired by this guy. Like I felt like he was I was magnetized by him. And then I got out of the ties, and then I started strangling him, and he's like, you know, I really in that moment I felt like this was my destiny. Your destiny is to kill people, dude. I don't think that's your destiny, I think that's your choice that you're making. Anyway, so he tells this whole story about how he that's like his first victim or something, and a lot of his victims I've noticed have been guys. I don't know why. Um, I mean, Sarah is a girl, but uh every other victim that we've talked about has been a guy. So I don't know if it's like a power thing for him. He likes feeling the power over someone of the same gender. I'm I'm not really I don't know, honestly, and it's not really explained. I did find out, however, there is a show of this, and I really want to watch the show now. Like, I think it just started a couple years ago, too. I don't even think it's that old. So maybe it explains it in there, but in the movies, we don't really know. Anyway, so then he starts talking about how his spirit was like consumed by him, and that he laid next to him in the grave naked, and that their spirits mingled and consumed his spirit, and now with all of all of his victims, he lays next to them like naked, which I know is a lie because in the first movie he doesn't do that with Aaron, he literally runs away in the video, and not like a oh shit run. He's running away like he's frolicking, like in a field of flowers. That's how he runs in in that video. So I know he's lying here. So if he's lying about this, he's probably lying about literally everything. So again, we have no clue who this guy actually is, we have no clue what his name actually is, nothing. And then he's like, you know, because of this, it's gonna be a really bad night. It's gonna be a really bad night. And he's acting so emo, and he's acting like he's about to turn into a fucking werewolf. He's like, This is gonna be a bad night, and his obsession with the wolves, too. It just was giving werewolf vibe. I don't know. But then Sarah, Miss Girl, she gets into the hot tub with him and starts massaging him, and then they start making really weird noises to each other, and they're like growling almost at each other. I'm so confused, it was very uncomfortable. I again I would never get in the hot tub and do that to someone that I literally have no clue who he is, but she's you know, she's living life on the edge, I guess. And so she's like, Okay, well, I'm gonna go take a shower now. So she goes upstairs, and it it's Joseph in this video, slash Aaron, now, and he's talking about how he's so thankful for her coming here, and you know, he's really he's really excited about this project and that she's awakening something in him, and then he pans to a big fat knife on the floor, okay, and you know, he doesn't know what to do with um with these feelings, and he doesn't know what's gonna happen, and then it pans to his face, and then he starts walking into the bathroom where she's taking a shower, and it has this really creepy red light, and it's like a really bright red light. So then he creeps in there and he tries to open the curtain, and as he opens the curtain, Sarah jumps out from behind him, scares him, and he's like, Oh shit, and then they like go back and forth, and he's like, Oh my god, and then they start growling at each other again. Like, I don't understand the growling. I don't know if both of them are turning into werewolves, if only he's turning into a werewolf. I have no clue, but I guess she's into it because they're they're just growling at each other, and it's like like they're oh my god. Then we cut to playing hide and seek outside, Miss Girl. Why are we playing hide and seek outside at nighttime in the middle of the woods? Why are we doing that? That is a bad idea. Do not do that, please do not do that, unless you are with a bunch of friends and you can actually trust those friends, not some random stranger you met on Craigslist, guys. Do not do that. Please, I am begging you actually. So they're playing hide and seek, and then she scares him again. Then we cut to him chopping wood in the middle of the night in the woods with the axe that he used to kill Aaron in the last movie. And Sarah's standing there videoing him, and she goes, So I want you to be honest with me. When you are using that axe, do you want to use it on me and kill me? Um, I'm sorry, do we want to know that answer? I feel like we already know that answer. At this point, though, she still doesn't believe that he's a serial killer. So she probably doesn't even think he's actually gonna kill her, and that he's just like doing all this for fun. Which again, if someone told me they were a serial killer, I would stay very far away. I would not be like, Wow, that sounds so fun! I'd be like, Wow, get the fuck away from me! I don't want you around me. Oh my god. So it's just him chopping the wood, and he's like, you know, I I I would. And then she asks him, you know, do you ever regret killing these people or do you ever feel remorse? And he's like, not like, not necessarily, you know, not really. And he's like, I feel like I'm very fair to my victims. How are you fair to them? You kill them. Like, what? And then he starts going into the reasons that he's fair to them. He's like, I I warn them. And he says, you know, this last guy, he was my really good friend, and you know, I invited him to my house and I warned him because I left an axe outside. Babes, that that is weird. That is very weird. That is not a warning to me. Like, I guess it could be, but if I was showing up to someone's house and they had an axe outside and they had a pile of wood, I probably wouldn't think right away, oh, they're a serial killer, they're gonna murder me. Actually, maybe I would. I think I would think that. Because again, I just listen to a lot of true crime. But at the same time, if there was a bunch of like chopped firewood around, I'd be like, oh, maybe they just chop firewood and they have a fireplace. I don't know. Like, I feel like that's not a fair warning at all. Actually, I feel like there's no fair warnings when you when you kill someone. Like, I don't think there's any way you can have a fair warning at all with that. So he's like, you know, I give them a fair warning and stuff, and she's like, Okay, um, that that sounds that sounds great. And then they start talking about, you know, how he's not gonna kill her because he never lies. Bro, all he does is fucking lie. If I was her, I would think everything he says that's coming out of his mouth is a lie. I I I just don't trust like that. Then she starts doing the dishes in his house. Girl, stand up. Why are you doing the dishes? Um, and he even asks her, he's like, What are you doing? She's like, Oh, I'm just doing the dishes. Um, I'm sorry, does your video job for your video web series require you to do the dishes? Like, I I I'm genuinely confused. And then she starts pouring him a huge wine of glass. Wait, what? I'm so sorry. A huge glass of wine. Holy shit, guys. I'm tired, I guess. But she starts pouring him a huge glass of wine, and he's like calling himself mommy, and he's like, Bring bring mommy her juice, bring mommy her juice, bro. You are not mommy, please stop, please. And so she brings him this huge glass of wine, and he's like, So I know, I know something about you, and uh, I haven't been telling the full truth. And she's like, Okay, and he's like, Yeah, I know about your encounter show. Mm-hmm. I bet you didn't think I knew about that. And I know that you have a knife in your boot. Bro, how do you know this? And then he starts going on about how he doesn't lie, you know, he just starts, you know, fabricating the truth, but because his eyes and soul know the real truth that he's not lying. Um, my brother in Christ, what the f actual fuck are you talking about? Um, that makes no sense because you're still lying. And he's like, So I feel the same energy from you, and uh, I just want you to know I'm not mad. Okay, great. Like, the fuck? And he's like, I want you to answer this honestly. Do you actually think I'm a serial killer? And she says, No, girl, I think you should say yes. I think you should believe him, maybe, because he's acting weird as hell. And he's like, Well, you know, I've been really thinking about it, and uh, tonight, you know, I I want you to I want you to kill me. I'm I'm sorry. What? And he's like, Yeah, you know, I want I want it to be like a a trade-off. The the pupil takes over the takes over the king type shit. And I was like, what the actual fuck are you talking about? So then he puts the wolf mask on and he's like, okay, I'll I'll walk you through it. He gets the axe off of the the what is it? There's like a the wall, but it's like above a doorway, you know what I'm talking about? He takes it down and he's like, Okay, I sharpened it. All you're gonna do is just cut my head off. So he lays on the table and he's like, Okay, I'm ready. Bro, what are we doing? Genuinely. Um, this is so unserious, and so she's like hesitating because she isn't a serial killer and she's also not a murderer, so she's not doing it, and she's like, Well, do you have any last words to kind of I guess put it off a little bit? And he's like, Nah, and then he goes, Actually, yeah, I do, and he starts howling. He starts howling. Oh my gosh, you know, it would be it would be great if you just decided to be a furry. There's nothing wrong with furries. If you just wanted to live that lifestyle, that's great. But being a serial killer on top of it, I feel like just adds another layer that doesn't need to be there. You know what I'm saying? I just howling for your last words is great. But because he's lying and he's a serial killer, I feel like it adds like a really weird vibe. Maybe that's just me. I don't know. And then he's like, actually, you know, this is stupid. I think I'm just gonna kill myself. Bro, genuinely, what is going on in your brain? Genuinely what? So then he tries to jump off of the the there's like a balcony in this p in this house. He jumps off of it and tries to kill himself, and Sarah is like, oh my god, and she tries to help him up, and he comes to, quote unquote. I don't think he actually like passed out or anything. I don't think he lost consciousness. I think he's just a really good actor. And she's she's like putting her shoes on to leave, and he's like, Oh my god, where are you going? Bro, what do you mean? Where is she going? She's leaving. This is fucking weird. You wanted her to kill you, and now then you tried to kill yourself. Babes, it it's time for her to go. It's been long past time for her to go. And then he's like, just wait one second, one second, don't leave. He goes to the stairs, pulls out this harness, and he's like, I just want you to know I was wearing this when I jumped off the balcony. I wasn't actually gonna kill myself. I hope that makes you feel better. Um, actually, it doesn't, but it doesn't make me feel better because that's so fucked up. And she even says that. She's like, No, because what you did is really fucked up. Like, why would you fake that? Because why why would anyone do that? That's so fucked up. Don't do that. That's so traumatizing. And she's like, Okay, okay. I I I forgive you, girl. What are we doing? Genuinely. I've already said that, but I I just I I can't help but think, like, genuinely, what are we doing? So then it cuts to them doing two truths and a lie, and he's like, Okay, I'll I'll I'll go first. And he says his three, and he's and then all of a sudden he's like, Okay, the second one's a lie. And it was that he's had his first kiss. So now he's saying he's never kissed anyone, which I want to say is a lie, but at the same time, I feel like maybe it's not a lie. I feel like maybe he really hasn't had a first kiss because he's preoccupied with other things, he doesn't care about that, I fear. Like, I feel like he doesn't care about that. So then she offers to give him his first kiss. Girl, this has gone way too far. I mean, I was already out the door at the naked stuff. Maybe again, maybe that's just me. Maybe she's just built different. I don't know. But um she's like, Yeah, I'll I'll kiss you. And he's like, Oh my god, for real. Um, so then she kisses him, and he's like, Wow, that was that was great, that was a great experience. Then they go outside again, and she's walking through the woods, and he's like, Okay, they stop at this certain point, and he's like, Okay, close your eyes, and she does it, she literally does it in the middle of the woods, no one else is around, she closes her eyes. He pulls out the locket from the first movie that he gave to Aaron with their pictures inside. He pulls it out and he's like, I wanted to give you this to commemorate our day together, and then he reveals that it still has the picture of Aaron in it, but that he hopes that she can still accept it. He just needs to change the pictures. She lets him put it on her, and then he goes, Okay, it's time for part two. Part two of what? What is there a part two of? Oh my gosh, the people are outside again. I really hope you can't hear them. They're so annoying. So he's like, Okay, he turns her around and then stops her, and she's kind of like, Okay, what am I looking at? Because she can't really see. He turns her ever so slightly with the camera again. There's a grave dug into the ground. Okay, maybe the warning to her that he thinks is so quote unquote fair, is the story where he was talking about the grave, digging his own grave. Here's the grave, babes. Here it is. Also, I think he did give a pretty fair warning saying he was a serial killer at the very beginning. I feel like that was a pretty fair warning, actually. Um, and that she should leave. I think that was actually a good warning. But I think this is another warning, and this is usually the kind of warnings he gives to his other victims, which is aka no warning. Only he knows it's the warning. So, anyways, he's just genuinely not okay. Yeah, and she's just like okay, and he grabs the camera, and you can tell that she's like about to cry. She actually looks scared as fuck. And then he pulls out a knife, and it's the knife from her boot. He somehow grabbed the knife from her boot and she didn't realize it. So now he has a knife, and she doesn't, but instead of stabbing her, he's like, you know, I've I've been thinking about who this grave is for, either you or me. And then he's like, I think it's for both of us. And then he starts stabbing his own self, and he then gives her the knife and is like, okay, it's your turn to stab yourself, because we're gonna die in this hole together. Uh, I'm sorry. What? The fuck? So then she starts running away, fucking finally starts running away, and he starts chasing her, and he can't find her, can't find her, and they're like running after each other, and all of a sudden she comes up and tries to attack him, and she she's able to kind of like knock him off his his groove a little bit, and then he gets back up and starts chasing her. He at he catches her. I don't know how he catches her because he stabs himself in the abdomen a bunch of times, but he catches up to her and starts stabbing her too. So now they're both stabbed. Like this is so fucking crazy, it's so messed up. It cuts to him trying to drag her into the grave. She falls on top of him into the grave. He is able to get out from underneath of her and crawl out of the grave. He can barely even he can't stand up because he actually stabbed himself. But he probably did it in a way where it doesn't hit any major arteries or anything. I feel like he's smart enough to do at least that. But then she crawls out of the grave after him as he's talking to the camera, and he's basically saying, like, I'm really sorry, Sarah, that you can't witness the greatest episode of uh oh, what is it called, encounters ever, you know. I'm really sad that you had to go. Um, she didn't have to go, actually, and she's not gone because she's behind you. And all we see is her whack him over the head as he's trying to talk to the camera with the shovel, and she runs away, and the camera goes black. We enter the next scene, the last and final scene, and it's in the city, and we see her walking down the sidewalk, and it looks like New York or something, it's like a really busy city. She's walking down the sidewalk towards the camera, and she's just going on about her life, and it shows her, you know, getting on the subway, and then the camera, it the filming of it starts to change, it starts getting more wobbly, as if it's like an actual person holding the camera, and so then it follows her onto the subway, and she sits down, and whoever is filming this is sitting a little further down on the train than she is, and she's just minding her business, and all of a sudden we start hearing this whistling, and it's the same whistle that we hear at the beginning of the movie, where he sent that DVD to the other victim at the beginning of the movie, and it's that same whistle. Whistle he's doing in that video. And so he's whistling trying to get her attention. And by he, I mean Joseph slash Aaron, because he can't he can't let her go. Um, unfortunately, she probably is gonna meet the same fate as the other people, and he finally catches her attention, and the last thing we see in the movie is a look on her face of oh fuck, and like pure terror. And then it cuts out and goes to the credits, and that is the movie. That is actually fucking insane. That is the most insane story or movie I I I've truly watched. There's another one that I've watched that I also think is pretty good, but um this one is just it's a whole whole other breed. Because like parts of it are funny, but then that gets to the more serious parts where you're like, oh god, this guy is actually the fucking worst. And then when you think about that, you go through the rest of the movie in your head and you're like, wow, he was lying the entire time, and everything he said that came out of his mouth was bullshit. Um, it it I don't even know what to say. Like, I'm genuinely speechless. But if I was her, um I I would call the cops, and he could be charged for attempted murder. Genuinely, because it's on video. But oh my gosh, wait, I actually didn't think about this. I didn't say this either. When she was running away after she did him with the shovel, she didn't get the camera. Oh my god. She doesn't have the evidence, he does. Guys, we just realized something together. Do you know what this means? This means she can't go to the police and he can't be charged with attempted murder. She doesn't have the proof. Oh my god. But we know what the next steps are. The next steps are him stalking her, which we see at the end of the movie, and we all know how that ends, via the other two victims that we saw. So yeah, but that is uh creep two, and I hope you enjoyed this solo episode. We will be back next week with the duo again, and we'll be doing uh Young Royals. I love that show. I've actually been getting a lot of TikTok videos of it, and I really miss it. I'm so glad we're doing that one next because it's so I don't know, it's such a beautiful show. It's a it's a great story, and every episode is like the length of the ones in Heated Rivalry, like they're all like 40-50 minutes long, so they're like decent, decent length videos, and there's three seasons, so there will be a lot to talk about. So I hope you're looking forward to that, and we will be getting back to the gayness, everyone's favorite, the gayness. So we will be getting back to that, and we will be getting back to being in the podcast room because Emma is back. So I hope everyone's excited. Um, I hope these last two episodes didn't bore you too much, and I hope you don't think I'm the worst and most boring person on the planet. I had fun watching these movies and then talking about them, but I also am a true crime person, so it's kind of a it's a it's a big difference between heated rivalry, um, because there's no true crime that happens in heated rivalry. The only crime that happens is the gay on gay crime when Scott and Shane go at it on the ice. That's about the only gay on gay crime there. So uh yeah. I hope you enjoyed this episode though, and I will see you next week with Emma. Yippee! All right, bye guys.