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Ready or Not Here I Come: Is there any horror to be found?

March 25, 2026 • Slasher Bash • Season 1 • Episode 11

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This week on Slasher Bash, Maddi and Ben review the Ready or Not Sequel and discuss if its gone full blown comedy this time around. Find out their thoughts!

SPEAKER_03 0:25

Let's do this, bitch.

SPEAKER_02 0:26

What's up, everybody? Welcome to Slasher Bash the Podcast, the podcast, where we pick a horror movie franchise and review it movie by movie. This week we are doing our part of our two-parter for Ready or Not. This is Ready or Not Here I Come. Here We Come. Here I Come. Here I Come. I'm here with my co-host Madison. What's up? And I'm Benjamin. Um that's an intro.

SPEAKER_03 0:56

Works. It's perfect. Anyway, how are you? I'm good. I loved this movie. I want to go see it again.

SPEAKER_02 1:04

Yeah. I I think this is going to be our first very polarizing conversation.

SPEAKER_03 1:08

You didn't love it, huh?

SPEAKER_00 1:10

I uh I well, yeah, we'll get into it, but I did not love this movie.

SPEAKER_03 1:14

That's hilarious because I don't know if you recall our conversation Freddy or not, but I was like, I don't think this is gonna be as good as the first. And you were like, I think it might be better. I did say that, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:27

So I think I might be wrong. But again, I think that's I think it's cool that we put potentially have different opinions on this movie.

SPEAKER_03 1:34

Yeah, I think it's good when we disagree. Yeah. I'm currently in a disagree. I saw it on Saturday morning. Saturday.

SPEAKER_02 1:41

Currently in a disagre disagreement about what?

SPEAKER_03 1:43

Uh on Instagram with um one of our followers about uh the plot holes in Scream 3. Uh basically, I was like Are you arguing with our fans? No, no, I think I responded okay, but I definitely was like, well, actually.

SPEAKER_02 1:59

You you do you, but I wouldn't even be responding to that comment. You know, it's funny because in this, maybe I'll cut this out, but like talking about our Scream 7 review or whatever. I can't tell now anymore, based on like the online commentary of that movie, whether it's good or bad. I feel objectively to the to the public. Like, I don't are we in the minority by thinking it it was good.

SPEAKER_03 2:22

No, I don't, I mean, I see I think everybody has the same opinion, and some forgive it and some don't. Everybody knows that that killer reveal and those motives were trash. Everybody, you're not gonna get anybody. Well, maybe a few small people who are like, I loved it. It made so much sense. Crazy people. But then you have people who are like, I don't care. Everything else was so great that I still loved it.

SPEAKER_01 2:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:48

And then you have people who are like, nope, can't forgive it for that. Which I understand those people, because I mean, I one thing I'm finding is how much people love and defend Scream 4. And I'm the outlier being like, sorry, I can't forgive how small the killers are, and nobody else shares my opinion. So I think that's like I put this one so parallel with that movie.

SPEAKER_01 3:07

Yeah, me too.

SPEAKER_03 3:09

Really high highs, low lows, um, and a very loyal fan base who can forgive the lows.

SPEAKER_02 3:15

Yeah. I I think it's funny too. Like, I think when we're just like nowadays, especially we need this. Um maybe we're getting a little sidetracked. This will I'll wrap this up, but like we need to have less of a binary system for judging if things like it seems like today, like every something's either the greatest thing ever made or it's the worst piece of shit I've ever seen. And like that's a crazy thing. Like, I remember growing up with movies, and like some movies would be like, okay, and you can still enjoy that fine. Oh, yeah, even with their flaw. But now it's like people go online and they talk about how what a masterpiece this like mediocre piece of media is, or what a piece of garbage this mediocre piece of media is. You know what I mean? It's like it's like we can have like sixes and sevens and be okay with that. Like you have to put a rating on it.

SPEAKER_03 4:00

I used to constantly argue with my ex about this because she went to NYU. So she was like, I only watch good film. Yeah, very serious ego about film. Meanwhile, I was like, let's go see the new Fast and Furious movie. And she was like, I won't watch those movies. And I was like, Well, that's stupid because is it an amazing piece of art? Probably not. Is it really fun? Yes. Is there value in that? 100%.

SPEAKER_02 4:25

Yeah, I agree. But I mean, yeah, like you can enjoy media that's not like I there's a bunch of like shitty movies that I like, and I don't care. Yeah, because the other thing about media too is like if you're if you have an imagination, if you're like a a creative person, like sometimes all you need is sort of like the seed, and then you can fill in the blanks yourself, and that's just fun to do. It doesn't make the movie good, it just makes your enjoyment of watching it better.

SPEAKER_03 4:50

Yeah. Anyway, heightens your engagement.

SPEAKER_02 4:53

Yeah. But let's talk about this movie. Yes. The reason we're here, ready or not, here I come. Mm-hmm. So it picks up right where the last one left off, which I literally right when you were right about that.

SPEAKER_03 5:04

I love that they did that. I think it was smart to have those quick little flashback snippets to give you the exposition without being too on the nose with the like exposition of what happened in the first one. I thought that was a smart move.

SPEAKER_02 5:18

I would love to watch like that scene, the opening scene where she's walking out of the house again.

SPEAKER_03 5:22

Side by side to see which was the new shot and which was the old film.

SPEAKER_02 5:25

Yeah, like I couldn't I couldn't tell if they like did they reshoot this or is it the same, is it the same scene?

SPEAKER_03 5:30

I think it's the same up until she falls over.

SPEAKER_02 5:35

It's in-laws. Oh, okay. Doesn't she say in-laws in the She does, she does, yes, but then but then he goes in-law, the guy is like in-law.

SPEAKER_03 5:42

Yeah, and I think that's where the new one starts, is like if she's fallen over and then it's like that's I think. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:49

Yeah. Well, I like this sort of like shot of the credits happening over her. This one shot of her getting put into the ambulance.

SPEAKER_03 5:57

It's so funny because when she was like crashing and they were like, She's in cardiac arrest and whatever. I was like, why? And then I was like, Oh, wait, I guess she did like get shot in the hand and like got like bleeding a lot. Yeah, like I was like, okay, because you forget because she's such a badass in it, you forget how many injuries she's actually carrying throughout it. So it took me a second to be like, okay, I guess this makes sense.

SPEAKER_02 6:21

Yeah. I'm sure like the writers were sitting there, like, okay, she like literally tore her abdomen in the last movie. Like, how are we going to immediately start up without her getting healed? I was like, the writers, they there has to be a way for them to heal her temporarily before she goes into this round two.

SPEAKER_03 6:38

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 6:39

Let's talk about her sister, the actress that's Catherine Newton.

SPEAKER_03 6:43

The very first thing I noticed when she walked into the hospital room is that she had um a chili pepper necklace, which I thought was cute to tie them in together as sisters, because I don't know if you noticed in the first one. But Samara Weaving has a chili pepper tattoo on her hand.

SPEAKER_01 6:56

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 6:57

So I thought it was like kind of a fun little uh I like that sister connection, even though that's her actual tattoo.

SPEAKER_02 7:04

Yeah, that's clever though, to do that. I the acting in the scene I think is awful.

SPEAKER_03 7:09

Really? Oh, I was cracking up.

SPEAKER_02 7:11

See, I maybe that okay. I think let's just talk about our overall thoughts real quick. Maybe we gotta figure we maybe we should have a discussion about how we should actually do reviews moving forward. Because they feel so all over the place. But you just tell me like things you liked about the movie overall, things you didn't like, and then I'll say what I same.

SPEAKER_03 7:30

Um, okay.

SPEAKER_02 7:30

And then we'll go deeper.

SPEAKER_03 7:32

I thought it was really funny. I loved the sister's chemistry. I loved everybody's chemistry, honestly. And like maybe it's because I've also been watching all of the promotional stuff, but I it feels like they all actually really enjoyed each other and making the movie together, and that made it more fun for me to watch because I felt like that translated on screen. Um, I like that they successfully did a bigger storyline and bigger set pieces without it getting too out of control. Like they still contained it, but they made the world bigger. Uh, I did think it was really confusing at first. Like I was like, why does Sarah Michelle Geller's family have to go in when it's the Lodamas family that got wiped out? So I did have to like go back and do research to figure that out. And yeah, what I'd missed was, I don't know if you caught this, but I had missed that it doesn't matter who gets wiped out, if one of the six families gets wiped out, the high family immediately gives up their seat and has to like essentially like recompete for it.

SPEAKER_01 8:34

But why is that though?

SPEAKER_03 8:35

I assume there wasn't a ton of exposition around it, but my assumption is kind of like, okay, if you're the leader of this group and one of the families of the group gets wiped out, then maybe your leadership isn't up to task.

SPEAKER_02 8:45

Interesting. I guess that would be the only way to do it. I don't know why they didn't just make that first family the the leaders.

SPEAKER_03 8:53

Yeah, that's that's kind of I had that thought too, but yeah. That was like the one kind of thing that I was like, I don't really get this, and had to go dig into it. Yeah. Um I just thought it was like really funny.

SPEAKER_01 9:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 9:07

Uh you know, the ending, it went into a very different place than I expected. But I didn't dislike that.

SPEAKER_02 9:16

Yeah. Like the marriage thing.

SPEAKER_03 9:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:18

Yeah, I like that too, actually. I I guess for me, uh I thought a lot of the humor fell flat. And I think maybe I don't know if I was in the best mood because like my theater was laughing and stuff, but I just thought a lot of the jokes were sort of like cliche or not super original. Minus a few exceptions. I don't I did laugh at some parts and we'll take that.

SPEAKER_03 9:39

I didn't necessarily think the written jokes were anything special. I think it is Samara's Yeah. Samara Weaving's ability to just be so dry. Like the parts that I'm laughing the hardest at are her and Catherine Newton's delivery of lines, not actual funny lines.

SPEAKER_02 9:56

Yeah. Like I I think Samara Weaving is the best part about this movie. And I think if she wasn't so strong in it, even acting-wise, I don't think I would have liked it at all. I don't think the sister, I didn't think she was very good actress. Like, especially in that first scene. I actually thought, like, did they lose the audio for this scene and have to like ADR the whole, all of the sisters' dialogue? Because I thought it was so poorly delivered.

SPEAKER_03 10:16

Interesting.

SPEAKER_02 10:17

I was it was like taking me out of the movie. And I think a lot of the acting from the other actors too seemed not like obviously phony, obviously acting, like they were mugging. And I didn't love it's funny. When we talk about Stream 7, my f one of my favorite things about that movie was the relationship between Sydney and her daughter.

SPEAKER_04 10:37

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 10:38

The sisters, the relationship in this, I did not like that much. It was too like cliche, and they kept going back and forth on it, I felt, where they were like, You left me. Oh, I'm sorry. Okay, we're cool now. And then a scene later, you left me.

SPEAKER_03 10:51

And I'm just like, Yeah, I do agree with that. I felt like they hinted at the you left me, but like quite a lot. Yeah. And then they finally have this like conversation of resolve that I I really I made a note, like how much I liked that conversation. Yeah. But then it was like right after we get that, then why are they splitting up again? Like back back to that same fight. Like, then why'd you resolve it earlier?

SPEAKER_02 11:14

Exactly. And and I think, and and there's a specific part too, I think, where like, is she doing this on purpose to social leave? Which if that's what they're doing, it's not clear to me that's what was happening.

SPEAKER_03 11:24

Do you know what I honestly think is happening? I made a note of this. Did you watch the Academy Awards?

SPEAKER_02 11:29

I've seen clips, but I didn't really watch, I didn't really watch them.

SPEAKER_03 11:32

So I don't know if you saw this bit or not, but Conan did a bit with Sterling K. Brown where he was talking about how now producers require that you state the plot multiple times. Oh my god, this is another criticism I have of this fucking movie. Yeah, so he did they did a joke about how you have to state the plot multiple times in the scripts to like to account for like the audience who's like on their phone and has all these distractions now and not paying attention. So there were so many times that I was like, I already got this. You don't need to say it again, you don't need to reiterate it.

SPEAKER_02 12:01

And I think that's my problem too, because there's this there's a specific line I'm I noticed in that first scene where the sisters are talking and she's in the hospital bed, where the sister's like, Are you guys family? She's like, We're we're biological sisters, but no, we're not family. And I'm like, that is such a bad line. Why wouldn't you just say, like, are you guys family? Only biologically. Like, that's a better line that gets that same point across. But they like had to like dumb it down as much as possible so no one would be confused by the fact that they had a falling out, and it's it's driving me insane.

SPEAKER_03 12:32

It is a glaring thing throughout this movie, but I do think that that is production tampering and not maybe.

SPEAKER_02 12:38

I mean, I agree with you. I think the writers know that at this point, and they're trying to get a paycheck, and so they're okay, they're like they don't push back on stuff like that.

SPEAKER_03 12:45

But it's the one for me was like this opening hospital scene, which it's funny because I thought this was a a spoiler in the trailer when the they're in the hospital and then the guy explodes, and then Chloe and I watched it.

SPEAKER_02 12:56

Oh, see, I didn't see any trailer, I didn't see a single trailer.

SPEAKER_03 12:59

So that was in the trailer, and so Chloe and I were like, Oh, spoiler, I guess they survived this one again. So then when it was like the opening like scene, I was like, Okay, I'm glad that's not a spoiler. But it was like in him exploding, we get it. He broke the rules going after.

SPEAKER_02 13:12

I didn't know why he exploded. I was like, why did he explode for like a good five minutes?

SPEAKER_03 13:16

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_02 13:17

Oh, because then they explained it later. I was like, oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 13:19

Oh, that that was so, and when Elijah Wood explained it, I was like, that was my. Oh, you're right.

SPEAKER_02 13:24

He walks into the room and he's like, Oh, he says the whole thing, he's like, Oh, he tried to like blah blah blah. It's like anime sort of where they're like over-explaining everything.

SPEAKER_03 13:33

Yeah. So I was like, I hated that because it was like see, I needed that though. There were multiple, but even again, there's other pieces where like he says so many times, if you break the rules, Mr. Labelle's gonna be pissed. So it's like, even if you didn't get it right in that first scene, as he's going over the rules of the game again, like it's gonna come too.

SPEAKER_02 13:50

Yeah, but the other thing is like, even with him saying that, like the rules to me should be clear already. Like, you can't have something happen and then later be like, oh, that's because he broke this specific rule that we didn't tell anybody yet. And we just surprised him.

SPEAKER_03 14:02

I I caught it right away. I think there was something really, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:05

Maybe I missed it. I might have missed it then. Because I was like, why did he just explode?

SPEAKER_03 14:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:10

I was like, it's not Dawn yet. Or is I was like, do they have a time limit?

SPEAKER_03 14:13

Well, it might be that um I got it because I had just watched the first one and it was kind of like it was pretty hit on the head at the end that like if you make Mr. LaBelle unhappy, you explode. That's what happens. Yeah. Um, and then thinking that was a spoiler, and then immediately happening because he didn't wait to catch her fairly like I think maybe it's just that I everything's been so yeah n recently present that that's why it was like, oh yeah, this and this and this, and I put it together pretty easy, but Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:40

I mean, maybe, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:41

I mean, I there's a good chance that I just missed it or whatever, because I don't know. But I was confused. And then they explained it, and I was like, that's very it's a what a weird thing to do in the moment. It's like that's the thing you're noticing people explaining things, like, and it's so unnatural. Yeah, can't we be uh better at writing nowadays? Like I just it's so sad to me that we have to do it like this. There's better ways to explain exposition, and I just it drives me insane. Like the relationship set up with the two sisters and then um this Elijah Woodwood.

SPEAKER_03 15:15

But let's let's even like that guy exploding. I think it would have explained it just enough if he walked in and was like, somebody made Mr.

SPEAKER_02 15:21

Labelle pissed or something, you know, like just very quick or a better line oh, try to kill him before the game started, I see, or something like that. Like it's so simple.

SPEAKER_03 15:30

You don't need to be so wordy and you're overexplaining.

SPEAKER_02 15:33

Yeah. I did like uh what's the sister's name?

SPEAKER_03 15:36

Uh Faith. I did make a note that I hated Grace and Faith, that that was terrible names for sisters. And then I loved it when they then made a joke about it and they were like fucking Irish Catholics or something like that.

SPEAKER_02 15:47

Yeah. I do think that someone's a Buffy fan because there's a couple of references.

SPEAKER_03 15:52

Faith was the other slayer.

SPEAKER_02 15:54

Yeah, there's a couple of references in this movie, and Sir Michelle Guller, isn't it? And let me just say how cool it was to see her name pop up in the credits.

SPEAKER_03 15:59

Catherine Newton said that um she was supposed to be in Oh yeah, yes.

SPEAKER_02 16:04

I thought that was the whole time. I was like, That she looks like Buffy. Is this another one?

SPEAKER_03 16:08

She took a specific uh image from one of the episodes and they matched that outfit and look from an episode of Buffy.

SPEAKER_02 16:15

Yeah, I think that the yeah, maybe she was the fan and she was like, Can I be called Faith? And they're like, sure.

SPEAKER_03 16:22

Yeah, she made some reference about being called like baby Barbie Buffy, and Sarah Michelle Keller was like cracking up at it.

SPEAKER_02 16:27

That's hilarious. Um all right, so yeah, we're we're focusing on this beginning. I think for me, I think first of all, I love the Elijah Wood character. I just love Elijah Wood.

SPEAKER_03 16:39

He's so good in it.

SPEAKER_02 16:40

He's just a likable, I just want to watch him, and he's one of the better actors in this movie, I think. Guy doesn't age. He still looks like he's Frodo. Um I thought he was great. And and it also made his over X like exposition explaining stuff okay because I just wanted to watch Elijah Wood explain things, you know? So I was okay with that. But anyway, we get to the we get them handcuffed together, they're taken to this tribunal, we get this scene where everyone is sort of like the four remaining families come in. Yeah, they're all getting we're getting they're getting phone calls and they're like have different reactions to it or whatever. I like I'm so I do like the genre of like rich people that we can like kill. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 17:24

Like we can I love the genre of killing rich people.

SPEAKER_02 17:28

Well, you know what I mean? Like there's like these stereotypical rich people that that are just obnoxious that we are not sad about dying, really.

SPEAKER_03 17:35

Yeah, literally my note is these people are coming together and we're like, and it's relatable to times right now. I mean I just wrote the world is run by fucking idiots.

SPEAKER_02 17:45

Yeah. And I like um it reminds me of like Glass Onion, right, in a way, or stuff like that.

SPEAKER_03 17:51

But um So you got all these families coming together.

SPEAKER_02 17:53

Yeah, and I think here's another thing. Like, I think there's like this John Wick thing happening, and they're trying to like they're trying to create this like bigger world. Like John Wick does this thing where it's like, oh, there's like this underground world that has its rules, and like there's hotels that they can stay in, and you can't kill anyone in the hotels, and you have special coins and you have special like you know, armor that's in suits and stuff like that. I just think that they I was very confused, not in the way of like I don't understand what's going on, more like this is sort of like not really uh like it doesn't really make sense. Like it's it's very like loose with their rules here, like it's very convenient. Like, I don't feel like I'm watching this and I know exactly how everything works.

SPEAKER_03 18:34

Well, it's kind of like you went from the first one where there was a pretty contained environment to now we're expanding it and we are going full blown, like throwing like anything goes.

SPEAKER_02 18:48

Exactly, but that's how it felt. Like, I I would like like who is this family in relationship to this family? Like, do they get along? Do they not get along? They say that they run the world together, but all we see is like David Cronenberg's character, like make a phone call to end to start a ceasefire, right? And then he like lets himself he kills himself, or that he lets the two the twins kill him. The twins kill him. Um it's just very confusing. And like I love rules. I love like when mythologies in movies or TV shows happen, then there's like very specific rules. So when you're watching it, you're like, oh, he can't do that because that will trigger this. But the whole time I'm watching this, I'm like, I'm not really sure on what the rules are. Even when they have like like the the original fiance, like who's like after her, who's all pissed about Alex marrying Samar Weaving instead of her or whatever. Like, who is she? Who is she? Is she married to someone in that? Or is she she comes into the game? But she comes into the game late and she's just like, I'm ready to get into the game now. And I'm like, Well, I don't understand. I thought you had to be in the game already.

SPEAKER_03 19:52

There was a scene when they were talking to Nestor, um, the one with the like uh sniper rifle or whatever that gun was. I don't know. My gun's she's married to him, she's his daughter. Oh, okay. So when he got killed, that's when she had to enter the game. Gotcha. And that's why his son didn't go in until after she got killed.

SPEAKER_02 20:09

Okay. And that was her son.

SPEAKER_03 20:11

That was her her brother, I think, her little brother.

SPEAKER_01 20:14

Oh, I see, I see. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 20:15

Because we're his two kids. Um, the one thing I was like when I was watching it, I was like, I really wish that she had been played by Melissa Barrera as a relationship with them from doing Screams and Abigail.

SPEAKER_02 20:26

That would have been cool. I did like her though. I I did like her portrayal in this sort of thing.

SPEAKER_03 20:31

I mean, she, the actress, the character were fine, whatever, but the scenes with her and Samara Weaving were my favorite. Like the pepper spray fight.

SPEAKER_02 20:41

Oh my god, so my bazooka. Yes. The rocket launcher going the wrong direction into the wall. Yes. It's fantastic.

SPEAKER_03 20:47

And then later, when like uh Samara Weaving comes back and now she's got the shotgun and she's like ready for more, and she just like blasts the shit out of her and it's like, yep. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:57

So good. Yeah, that cut back to like them like swinging at each other and not even being close to each other because their eyes are pepper sprayed or whatever. That was the biggest laugh in the theater. I think that was.

SPEAKER_03 21:06

Oh, yeah. That was like hands down the funniest scene for me. I was like almost in tears. I was laughing so hard.

SPEAKER_02 21:11

Yeah, and that's to me, that's what makes this movie kind of frustrating too. Is just like, again, I think a lot of it falls flat, and I want to have fun and I want to be laughing, but it's just, I don't know. I maybe it's radio silence. Like something about this is not hitting for me. And I don't know if it's the timing, the delivery, or something, but I'm just like it's not set up right. But that but that uh hard cut back to them swinging at each other, hilarious. Do you know what I mean? Like that was the right timing, that was the right moment to do that. So I don't know. I have very mixed feelings about this movie, but I think the ending was really strong too. But let's talk about the other characters. Like, what do you want to talk about? I don't know. I feel like we're all over the place here. You got nose.

SPEAKER_03 21:48

Um okay. I mean love Sarah Michelle.

SPEAKER_02 21:53

I love Sarah Michelle.

SPEAKER_03 21:54

Well, I mean, I'm biased, and I really like Sean Watts' name who Played Titus, her brother.

SPEAKER_02 22:01

Yeah, I do too. I like that actor a lot. He's always good.

SPEAKER_03 22:04

It's funny because Chloe was like, What else is he in? And I was like, The faculty. And that was like the only thing I could like remember that he was from. And she's like, Oh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:11

But it that's like such a throwback that he was on Animal Kingdom, the TNT show.

SPEAKER_03 22:16

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:17

Watched it. He plays like the crazy brother. Yeah, he's really good.

SPEAKER_03 22:20

He did a good job of uh he did a good job in his role. But it's like I also like when it got to the point where uh they're going to get married and Sarah Michelle Gellar like goes in to talk to her and she's like, I need your help, I was like, just marry Sarah Michelle Gellar instead.

SPEAKER_02 22:35

I know. Marry SMG. But here's my other problem with this movie is like, why didn't when he said when they said, Okay, I'll marry you, why didn't Sarah Michelle Gellar just like immediately kill her brother?

SPEAKER_03 22:48

Uh, because you can't kill your siblings intentionally, because you're wipe out your family.

SPEAKER_02 22:52

I thought you I thought you're okay that you can kill family members. That's the whole thing. It's like you're allowed to kill family members.

SPEAKER_03 22:57

Oh, that's right, because he killed his sister.

SPEAKER_02 22:59

So that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_03 23:00

Like, why didn't you kill other players?

SPEAKER_02 23:02

Like, if she was so scared about this happening, why didn't she just like kill him, like shoot him with the gun she had in her hand right then?

SPEAKER_03 23:10

That's a really good point.

SPEAKER_02 23:11

Or kill Samara Weaving right then. That's what I'm saying. Like, I don't understand like the rules of this movie.

SPEAKER_03 23:16

Well, she couldn't kill Samara Weaving right then because they couldn't get into her.

SPEAKER_02 23:20

Maybe because she like was marrying him, like there's a new rule, and that would be against the rules, according to Mr.

SPEAKER_03 23:25

Well, she made him she made him swear on Mr. LaBelle, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:27

Yeah. But that doesn't mean but she didn't swear on Mr. LaBelle.

SPEAKER_03 23:30

That's true.

SPEAKER_02 23:31

I also thought when she came in to talk to Samara Riva, she had poisoned one of the glasses.

SPEAKER_03 23:34

Oh, I totally did too.

SPEAKER_02 23:36

And I thought like he was gonna pick up one of the glasses at after she he killed her, killed Sir Michelle Geller, and then drink it, and then he would die. I thought that would have been a clever thing to do.

SPEAKER_03 23:46

That would have been clever. I I I did not think the ending was gonna get as big and and like deep into the Satan ritual as it did.

SPEAKER_02 23:53

I loved that part though. I'm not gonna lie.

SPEAKER_03 23:55

Like when when she married, like I almost wish that like she just took all the power and just like so this was one thing that was like a thing for me when you were talking about like the rules and you love rules and whatever, right? Yeah. So she's running and she's trying to survive this game, and she doesn't want to marry the chick's son for the loophole because she's like, I don't want to sell my soul. Here is the thing though, you are already in this group no matter what now. Yeah. Because you've already married into the Domus family. So even if you survive the game and you don't marry this guy, you still get the high power ring.

SPEAKER_02 24:30

Yeah, but then you have to participate in every time there's a new game, you have to participate in maybe having to kill somebody.

SPEAKER_03 24:36

Right, but it was the whole same same thing where couldn't she have just given away her power like she did at the end? Like it just seems to like kind of forget this whole time. Like she's trying to get away from a fate that is already her fate.

SPEAKER_01 24:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:48

Like she can't undo what she's already done in the first film by marrying the family.

SPEAKER_02 24:53

Exactly. And that's what I'm thinking. I think my problem is like a lot of these characters are not actually behaving in a way that's smart. Like Sarah Michael, you should have just killed your brother right there in that moment and then shot Samara Weaving. Like, I I don't know why you didn't do that. And like, do you know what I mean? Like, there's so much, and then there's other scenes that I just can't think of them at this point now, but it's like I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 25:14

Well, I think I think you can't kill your family members in the game. Because essentially the game had you can't kill other players in the game. Because remember Yes, you can. She the brother killed her. But the game was already over because they agreed to get married. So the game had ended at that point.

SPEAKER_02 25:31

See, but that's not clear. I guess that's my point. That's not clear. Like to me, like that wasn't like, oh, because you just proposed, like Elijah Wood didn't say, like, I guess we can't kill her now. Do you see what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03 25:41

But I feel like, yeah. I mean, it it could have been more clear for sure, but I do think that was the case. Because like the chick with the sword, when she accidentally kills Nestor, her whole line is wiped out because you can't kill other players in the game.

SPEAKER_02 25:53

You can't kill other players, but you can kill family members.

SPEAKER_03 25:55

No, but I think he could kill her after the game. I don't think if they'd killed each other in the game, that would have been okay because it would still have been against the rules. You can't kill the game.

SPEAKER_02 26:03

No, because like Sarah remember because like at the whole thing at the end is like Samara Weaven was like, thanks for that tip about you you can kill family members. There's no rule about killing your own family members.

SPEAKER_04 26:14

But I I feel like that's outside of the game.

SPEAKER_02 26:17

I think the rules, not the game rules. Yeah. The rules don't really line up, and we can justify things and you have our own headcanon for it. But like watching the movie, trying to like interpret like and and anticipate possibilities of what's gonna happen, you can't because it's just like, oh no, you can kill this, you can kill this person now. Yeah. Or actually, no, you can't kill this person now.

SPEAKER_03 26:41

The other thing that wasn't clear either was like he the one guy after his brother gets killed in the washing machine uh gives up, abdicates the throne or whatever to let his wife take over and go in the games.

SPEAKER_02 26:55

And then she runs away.

SPEAKER_03 26:56

And then she runs away. And I I was expecting right then All of them to explode. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:01

Exactly. Because they made it they made it clear you have to participate. And she clearly ran away.

SPEAKER_03 27:06

Yeah. So that was like, yeah. It doesn't make sense. It's just uh I don't know. I do think that if we watch it again and sat down and took note of everything that there actually is bits and pieces there that maybe that make it all make sense that we missed. Maybe. Um, but you shouldn't have to try that hard to understand it. Like we shouldn't have had to go back and do research to be like, why is Sarah Michelle's family giving up their ring when they're not the family that was wiped out?

SPEAKER_02 27:35

Exactly. Like, I think that's what I'm trying to say. Is like I think they got into a thing where they're like, we want to expand this world to like other families. Like, what if the but the idea of that they had that there was a spark of an idea there, but they didn't actually find like a uh an actual logical thing that made sense, even in uh the world of make-believe, right? Like it still has to sort of make sense to some extent. And it just it doesn't really. Um and I get it, people are not going to this movie really. The what they want to do is laugh and have fun and like see rich people do dumb things and explode, right? Like, and we got that, but I just wish I also found myself, and here's the other big crystal I'll say. I feel like there were a lot of moments in this movie, like I wanted to feel like suspense and tension, and I just I just was never worried for them. I was just never worried that they were gonna die.

SPEAKER_03 28:28

And I it it didn't feel like a um like a horror film at all.

SPEAKER_02 28:33

Or even just like a like even like Back to the Future, you're like, Oh, is he gonna make it at the end? Like, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 28:37

Like there was no more like like a zombie land, like you like sort of yeah. I never thought Zombieland was anything other than a comedy. And this one feels very much only one note in that way.

SPEAKER_02 28:47

Yeah. And I but I just I guess they have these scenes where they're running through the woods and they're running away, and I'm like, I wish I was actually if you're gonna have a scene like this, like I should be a little bit nervous that something bad's gonna happen. But I just never, I never really did.

SPEAKER_03 29:02

I did like um, you know, like once they ran into the woods, I was like, oh, are we gonna have another movie that's like just like running through the woods again? Um I like that they brought it into the hotel.

SPEAKER_02 29:15

I agree. I thought I think that was I was like, what a great set. I think the set piece of this movie is so much stronger than the first one. I think to have these rooms, like, oh, here's the casino room, and here's the laundry room, and here's like the weird church room at the end, like this is a much more interesting environment for this world to be in and to like have like be a playground for like trying to kill each other.

SPEAKER_04 29:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:36

I just wish that the actual scenes of them trying to kill each other were a little bit more exciting because outside like that fist fight with them being blinded and maybe the laundry room scene where they threw that guy in there and they're like, I thought the laundry room one was good. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:51

But for the most part, I was like, I don't but I also was like, how did why do they think his cell phone would work after that? And why didn't I? And why did it work? Is that supposed to be like some Apple product placement? Like our phones can handle their water resistance.

SPEAKER_02 30:06

Yeah, that's hilarious. I will say I liked like Sarah Michael Gellar answering the the 911 call because I didn't notice it at first, and I was like, that's hilarious. And then later the line would be like, I knew that was you, you fucking idiot, or whatever.

SPEAKER_03 30:18

Yes, how stupid do you think we are? Yeah, her like having to wake up. Oh yeah, they were great.

SPEAKER_02 30:28

I also love the kid trying to kill Samar Weaving with the guns.

SPEAKER_03 30:31

Oh my god, when he comes back with the guns, and what does he say? He's like, Let's dance, puta, or something like that.

SPEAKER_02 30:36

So good. Um that was hilarious. Yeah, there were funny, like there were times where I was like, that's funny. I just wish it was more consistent. And for me, for me.

SPEAKER_03 30:45

When um which family, oh, when the kid explodes after his mom accidentally kills Nestor with the sword, and they're like prepping for the kid to explode, and the douchey cousin like goes and hides behind the maid, and then once he says, he's like, gonna need a fresh one of these and a poncho, and a poncho, and then he has the poncho on later.

SPEAKER_01 31:07

That's funny.

SPEAKER_03 31:08

Yeah, that was like I thought one of the funniest scenes.

SPEAKER_02 31:11

Like, I agree, yeah. I uh but even that, like to go back to the rules real quick. When she stabbed Ernesto, that's his name.

SPEAKER_03 31:19

Nestor is the actor.

SPEAKER_02 31:20

Nestor. When he when she stabbed him, it was really Samara Weaving stabbing him. So why did she explode? Do you see what I was saying?

SPEAKER_03 31:27

Because Samara Weaving had her arm and kind of forced her.

SPEAKER_02 31:31

Yeah, but doesn't Labelle know, like, oh, okay, that was clearly not intentional. Like, even if you kill someone on an accident, like when they rocket the when they should Labelle is the devil.

SPEAKER_03 31:41

I feel like he just likes to make people explode for whatever reason.

SPEAKER_00 31:47

Okay, fair.

SPEAKER_03 31:49

If you give him any sort of reason, I think he's just like boom, boom, zing, zap.

SPEAKER_02 31:53

Yeah, he's a prankster, that devil.

SPEAKER_03 31:56

That little devil.

SPEAKER_02 31:57

That little devil. Um, is there anything you want to talk about before we get to the end, the big finale?

SPEAKER_03 32:02

Just that I want justice for Sarah Michelle Geller. I'm so tired of her dying in horror movies. When she wanted to be a final girl.

SPEAKER_02 32:09

To me, this is like proof that, well, she was in The Grudge. Though she might have died in that movie.

SPEAKER_03 32:14

I don't remember. God, I haven't seen that movie in years.

SPEAKER_02 32:17

Um I I just hope this like movie does well because I really want her to be in more stuff. Like I especially after the Buffy thing getting cancelled.

SPEAKER_03 32:25

Like, yeah, that well, what a bummer for this movie to come out and to be excited about it, and then immediately find out Buffy's cancelled and then Brendan Nicholas dies, like Nicholas Brendan, yeah. Nicholas Brendan, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:35

What I know.

SPEAKER_03 32:36

What a crap week for her.

SPEAKER_02 32:38

Dude.

SPEAKER_03 32:39

Seriously, like when she's supposed to be having like a great like kind of resurgence and she's like cursed.

SPEAKER_02 32:44

It's insane. Yeah, I feel so bad for her and for Nicholas Brendan's family and stuff.

SPEAKER_03 32:50

Yeah, that was really sad.

SPEAKER_02 32:52

And just sad. Yeah. Anyway, poor Sarah Michelle Geller. Uh, I hope you're doing okay. We love you. We love you. Do you know what's funny? You were great in this movie.

SPEAKER_03 33:04

I d I don't know. I I always think in Hollywood it's hard to walk a line of being a strong woman who takes her work seriously and has opinions without being called like difficult or a bitch. You know, like that's already a hard line. And then I think it's hard to walk the line of like ha being able to enjoy being out in public without having to be bothered all the time. So I think these things are are difficult to do. So I don't want to be like, I heard this person's an asshole. But I have heard firsthand accounts from people um that always kind of made me wonder if she like isn't super nice.

SPEAKER_01 33:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 33:46

But watching this press tour and watching her connection with like Samara Weaving and Catherine Newton, I was like, she seems so relaxed and like such a fun person. And that's not something that I have like thought of her ever watching like any interviews or anything. Like, she's always seemed way more like serious and uptight to me. So I enjoyed seeing her seem like she just had a blast and was comfortable and loose.

SPEAKER_02 34:13

I saw something where they like paired up people and she was paired up with Elijah Wood, and I thought that was pretty cool too. Because I don't think they had a lot of like screen time together. But um, I agree. I to me, Sarah Michelle Geller, like she's always sort of been like I don't I don't really know who she is as a person. And like she's great in interviews, she's always has been great in interviews, but like she always had distance herself from Buffy. She never went to any of the like conventions and she never really talked, like she obviously she talks about it, but she never like I don't know. There's like there's sort of like for a while at least it felt like she was not that she was ashamed of it, but she was just like sick of it and she didn't want to talk about it.

SPEAKER_03 34:47

Well, there was an interview she did about um cruel intentions, which I actually want to do a post on social that's like who's your favorite SMG villain? Uh that's good intentions, Sarah, or right or not, Sarah. That's awesome. Um, but she did an interview on on her character and cruel intentions, and I guess like all her people were like, You have built this, like you're Buffy Summers, you've built this perfect image. Why would you want to shatter it? And she was like, That's the point.

SPEAKER_01 35:14

Yeah, exactly. She's just good, she's always good.

SPEAKER_03 35:18

She is always like I mean, we've said this in other episodes. Like, we've we actually have kind of a streak now going with SMG because she was just I might have cut some of that stuff out, so I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 35:28

Sometimes I do.

SPEAKER_03 35:29

Well, she was in Scream. We've recorded most of I know what you did last summer, which she was in, and now we're on this franchise, which she's in. Yeah. But like the one thing that I like we keep going back to is like she is so good at playing somebody who walks a line between being likable and being a bitch. Yeah, yeah. She tackles both in so many roles. Yeah. And you love her.

SPEAKER_02 35:49

Yeah. In this role, like in the Radio Knot role, too, it's like she's being evil. She's trying to kill, but at the same time, you're sort of like, out of all of these people, I hope that she comes out alive or on top somehow. You know what I mean? Like, you still kind of like want her to succeed. Like, she still feels like the underdog, or especially next to her brother.

SPEAKER_03 36:07

For her to marry Samara and for them to be the hot lesbian couple rule. That was the ending I wanted.

SPEAKER_00 36:13

That'd have been awesome. They just rule the roll together.

SPEAKER_03 36:16

Yeah. Um, but the ending we did get was it was awesome.

SPEAKER_02 36:21

I I really like this ending. I think it could have maybe been a little bit stronger, but I liked like her just like going full dark and just like accepting it, and then immediately like, this is Sparta, and just like kicking what's his name into that hole.

SPEAKER_04 36:35

So good.

SPEAKER_02 36:36

It was great. And like, but again, like the idi the idiocy of this guy not realizing like she's a threat to him after this happens. Like, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 36:44

Like which it's funny that like she's so underestimated by so many people when she wiped out an entire family. Like, clearly, she's not that's just rich people a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 36:56

They just think they're superior, and so yeah, what can this random nobody do to us or whatever?

SPEAKER_04 37:02

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 37:03

Yeah, I love the scene. I love how Elijah Wood is sort of just like letting it happen and like almost happy how she's so intrigued watching every time somebody's about to fuck themselves over. Yeah, and then like the sister takes her like white, she's got that black dress on or whatever underneath, right? Like they both look so badass in this moment. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_03 37:22

And then I'm not gonna lie, she's so hot in her black wedding dress with her thing when she likes I can't fucking see through this thing, or whatever she says.

SPEAKER_02 37:29

Yeah, she looked great. I love the little the the neck thing too that she had on. Um, and then they have the goat there. I was like, she's gonna save the goat, right?

SPEAKER_03 37:37

And like everything does, yeah. I was laughing too when she's like, nail, and the goat kneels.

SPEAKER_00 37:43

Yeah, oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:44

That was so funny. Um, yeah, I I thought it was really cool. I loved how she threw the ring in there. It was very again, Elijah Wood is in a movie where people are fighting over a ring. I think that's pretty funny. Yeah. Um, everyone jumping in, killing each other. Though I was confused because I thought there were spikes in there.

SPEAKER_03 37:59

Because didn't isn't that how Well there were there weren't spikes, there was like horns from past things. So I think it really kind of depended on where you landed when you jumped in, whether you got hurt or not.

SPEAKER_02 38:12

Gotcha. Okay, that makes more sense.

SPEAKER_03 38:14

If you landed on a soft body or someone's minotaur hat. Ceremonial Minotaur hat.

SPEAKER_02 38:22

You know, your standard ceremonial minotaur hat for your Satan marriage that everyone has.

SPEAKER_04 38:30

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 38:32

Um, yeah, I like this scene a lot. I like how she burned it all down. I liked how badass they looked walking away. Then everyone started to explode, right? And they had to have that scene again where that one guy's like, I made it, I'm alive, I renounced my thing, and then they get covered in blood again. You gotta be covered in blood. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 38:50

Always. I'm pretty sure. Did you watch the clip I sent you of the reaction of the theater where they dropped the fake blood every time it exploded? I'm pretty sure like the one where it was like blasting down from the ceiling and everyone was like, ah, I'm pretty sure that was that last scene.

SPEAKER_02 39:04

I wonder if you knew about that going in, because if I was just watching a movie and that I mean they had Pancho's.

SPEAKER_03 39:09

It was a it was like a special showing uh invite for like influencers and stuff. This is why I'm like, Ben, we gotta make this pod blow up. If we got to go do shit like that.

SPEAKER_02 39:17

Why influencers? Give that shit to the public. I know that special stuff should go to the public. Exactly. The real fans, not these fake fans that are just doing shit for free shit.

SPEAKER_03 39:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 39:28

You know? Um, I like the little moment at the end, them sort of forgiving each other. Do you think this is the end of the franchise? You think this is it?

SPEAKER_03 39:38

Um, I hope not.

SPEAKER_02 39:41

You think Elijah was gonna knock on her door one day and be like, we need to.

SPEAKER_03 39:46

I could see I could see them kind of spinning it off with like Elijah Wood and new casts. I don't know if there's much more to do with Samara Weeping's storyline, unfortunately.

SPEAKER_02 39:58

It'd be cool if like this was happening with a different group, and then like they had to track Samara down because they're like, Well, one girl survived. Who is it?

SPEAKER_03 40:07

Yeah, I could see it being kind of like the baby, her uh babysitter movies she did where she's like the main chick in the first one, and then you're watching the second one and you're like, is she gonna be in it? Is she gonna be in it? Is she gonna be in it? And then she comes in in like the last 20 minutes. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 40:22

Like all of a sudden she's there. So I think final thoughts for this movie. There were some good moments for me. I think overall for me, if you're a fan of the first one, you should watch this one for sure. I just thought a lot of it I wish was just better. I wish it was less exposition, lame dialogue. I wish there was a little bit better acting, I wish there was more suspense, maybe.

SPEAKER_03 40:43

I will give you that it lacks on the suspense, but for me, I thought in terms of if the point of a sequel is to go bigger, bloodier, better, it did funnier. Yeah, I thought it like I thought it was funnier than the first, honestly.

SPEAKER_02 40:56

I think it's funnier than the first two. But again, I think a lot of the comedy fell flat.

SPEAKER_03 41:01

Fair.

SPEAKER_02 41:01

And I was why I was like, people were laughing around me. I'm like, is that was that really that funny? I'm and I'm not like a I want to enjoy movies. I'm not like a negative person, like fuck this movie, I'm not gonna laugh. Like, I'm literally what's like this is not that funny I don't get it. Um but anyway, yeah, final thoughts for you. What do you think?

SPEAKER_03 41:22

Uh this for me is the first time that a sequel I would say is as good, if not better than the original. Which I know you don't agree with on this one, but like I just I couldn't separate the two. Like I think they're both really fun, both great films. And I I mean I d probably I do lean this one is I prefer over the two because I've never laughed harder than that damn total eclipse of the heart. Yeah. Chili spray fight scene.

SPEAKER_02 41:58

That was hilarious.

SPEAKER_03 41:59

Pepper spray.

SPEAKER_02 42:00

Yeah. Yeah, I think if you were a fan, like I think you will like find fun in this movie. Um I I wouldn't dissuade anyone from seeing this movie. Like to me, this is like worth watching. You know what I mean? Like um But I think maybe it was just because we had just watched the first one again. I I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 42:20

I do think to your point though, it it does break out of being a horror comedy, and it is really just a comedy. There really isn't any horror or suspense in it or thrills. I just I mean there's thrills, but I you know what?

SPEAKER_02 42:36

I just don't think I'm a radio silence fan.

SPEAKER_03 42:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:40

I've never been that impressed with anything they've ever done. They've and I think that's because they feel like Netflix directors. Like I if this was on Netflix and I it was just a streaming movie, I wouldn't like I think I might have a slightly different opinion of it.

SPEAKER_03 42:54

I definitely think that we need to go into the babysitter right away because the babysitter films are Netflix movies, and I'm curious if knowing that how you'll receive those films.

SPEAKER_01 43:04

Yeah. Yeah. I'm down.

SPEAKER_03 43:06

If that's your expectation from it, if it'll exceed your expectations because you're like, this is a Netflix movie, I don't have as high of expectations.

SPEAKER_02 43:12

Yeah. And knowing that it's sort of like a campy comedy sort of thing, right? Yeah. Yeah, I'm down. You're here first, everybody. The babysitter's next.