The Babysitter: We re-evaluate the 2017 horror-comedy

The continued marathon of all things Samara Weaving takes us back to the 2017 netflix film The Babysitter.  Does this horror-comedy hold up?

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SPEAKER_00 0:25

Let's do this, bitch. What's up, everyone? Welcome to Slasher Bash, the podcast where we talk about horror franchises and just dissect them film by film. Nice. You like that? Dissect. I'm your host, Madison, here with my co-host Benjamin. Say what's up.

SPEAKER_02 0:42

What's up, everybody?

SPEAKER_00 0:44

Uh, if you're listening, you know we just wrapped up Scream, followed by Ready or Not, and we are on a Samara weaving kick now. So we are moving into the babysitter.

SPEAKER_02 0:55

We're just we we just like go by the edge of our seat on the show.

SPEAKER_00 0:58

We really do. We have several recordings of unfinished franchises that we need to wrap up.

SPEAKER_02 1:04

But we started this, we were like, we'll just do franchises, and then it's like, will we get sick of this? Will we get sick of watching the same series?

SPEAKER_00 1:13

What's funny is movies we basically started decided to do the babysitter instead because we both caught the hots for Samara Weaving, but then watching the babysitter, I was like, Am I gonna get sick of Samara Weaving movies now? Oh no.

SPEAKER_02 1:25

Well, there's only one left, really.

SPEAKER_00 1:27

Exactly. So I think we'll be fine.

SPEAKER_02 1:30

Yeah, I agree. And they're pretty easily consumable movies.

SPEAKER_00 1:34

Yeah, I think it was like an hour and 25 minutes.

SPEAKER_02 1:36

I was like looking up her IMDB. I, you know, she's been she's an actress that's sort of fallen out of my there's a Venn diagram of all the movies that I watch. She's somehow not in it. Like I haven't seen a lot of her movies, is my point of this.

SPEAKER_01 1:50

Interesting.

SPEAKER_02 1:51

But I see a lot of movies, so it's very weird that I like missed hers. Like I've only the only movie I've really seen her in is Is Ready or not, or yeah, is it Ready or Not?

SPEAKER_00 1:59

What about Babylon?

SPEAKER_02 2:01

She's not in that.

SPEAKER_00 2:02

Yeah, she is.

SPEAKER_02 2:03

Who is she?

SPEAKER_00 2:04

She is. Remember when Margot Robbie gets like her first acting role in the silent picture and she has to cry? Um, she's like the prude lady who like keeps storming in and like hates the character. She's a silent actress.

SPEAKER_02 2:17

Really? Yeah. But they look so much alike.

SPEAKER_00 2:20

I know.

SPEAKER_02 2:21

That's a great bad to be confusing.

SPEAKER_00 2:23

I'm sure it was. And then she's also I missed that.

SPEAKER_02 2:25

I swear I looked at her her IMDB and I was like, and I didn't see that. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 2:28

My favorite thing that she's in that I've watched more times than I can count is Hollywood. Have you seen that Ryan Murphy show?

SPEAKER_02 2:35

Hollywood? No, I actually it looked bad. And I don't mean it looked bad as in the story, it just like vi like visually looked bad, I thought.

SPEAKER_00 2:43

Because it was a Netflix show.

SPEAKER_02 2:45

It was like a I don't know what's going on with Netflix. I think why can't we make things look good anyway?

SPEAKER_00 2:50

I wrote down a note last night and I was like, is the problem with Netflix that they don't shell out bucks for cinematographers?

SPEAKER_02 2:57

I think they want all their shows to look the same.

SPEAKER_00 2:59

They all look bright, uh colorful. There's there's no filters on any like, well, I mean, there's not even the that bothers me.

SPEAKER_02 3:08

It's like everything looks sort of cheap. It looks like Stepford-wise. Yeah, but not the movie stepford wise, like no, like real life, like everything's cookie-cutter, bright. Exactly. It doesn't, I don't get there's no illusion of like this is a different it doesn't feel like a window into another one.

SPEAKER_00 3:26

Okay, so did you think question though? Did you think the babysitter had this same Netflix effect?

SPEAKER_02 3:31

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 3:31

Okay, not as bad.

SPEAKER_02 3:32

Not as bad. Okay, so here's an interesting as the Ryan Murphy show. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 3:36

Here's an interesting fact that I read after watching the film, and I was like, oh, that's funny. Um wasn't intended as a Netflix film. It was filmed and intended to be released in theaters, and then Netflix picked it up.

SPEAKER_02 3:50

But that's so crazy to me because then why does it look like that?

SPEAKER_00 3:53

I know. That's what's funny, is it looks exactly like Netflix?

SPEAKER_02 3:56

Like you noticed it, right? Like it's not just me being like a snob about film and how it should look.

SPEAKER_00 4:00

But it does have moments in it though that I think are a little more theatrical than Netflix films.

SPEAKER_02 4:06

I agree. I agree with that. I think honestly, I also think over time Netflix has actually gotten worse. Like, I think it like you can go back and look at some of the early stuff, and there's like really high production value there. Like, even a show like Sensei, like that.

SPEAKER_01 4:17

Oh god, I forgot how much you love that show.

SPEAKER_02 4:20

But that's not my point, is like it looked great. Like everything about that show looked great. But again, you have like a Wachowski doing it. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, you don't have like a TV director doing it, so it's not that that sounds so negative, but there's a difference. There is when you watch someone who knows their craft and is more of a gun.

SPEAKER_00 4:40

There are filmmakers and there are directors, and they're not always the same thing. Sometimes they are, but a lot of times they're not.

SPEAKER_02 4:46

Yeah. By the way, you're right about Babylon.

SPEAKER_00 4:49

I know.

SPEAKER_02 4:50

Not that I doubted you, but oh, she was in Bill and Ted. She was in Bill and Ted? The report I think she's one of the daughters.

SPEAKER_00 4:57

That's hilarious. Do you know that she's Hugo Weaving's niece?

SPEAKER_02 5:01

No way. I see. I always thought, I always think of who Hugo was speaking of the Wachowskis, I always think of Hugo Weaving every time I see her name, but I didn't think she was related to the show.

SPEAKER_00 5:10

Well, it's funny because I was like, really? And then I was like thinking about how their faces look, and I was like, yeah, actually, like they do actually have like very similar face shapes.

SPEAKER_02 5:20

But for a while I was convinced that Emily Rudd was Paul Rudd's daughter or something.

SPEAKER_00 5:24

Emily Rudd, who's that?

SPEAKER_02 5:26

She's on the live action One Piece. I don't know if you've seen it.

SPEAKER_00 5:29

Oh no, I want to watch it. It's good, right? Even though it's a Netflix show. I haven't watched it.

SPEAKER_02 5:32

I've heard great things. But I see clips of her because she's very cute. And um I thought she was like Paul related to Paul Rudd for so long, but she has no relation to Paul Rudd. So I thought it was a similar situation where like Samara Weaving, not related to Hugo Weaving.

SPEAKER_00 5:46

Uh Julia. Wait, what is his name?

SPEAKER_02 5:49

Hugo?

SPEAKER_00 5:50

Hugo Weaving. Hugo.

SPEAKER_02 5:51

It is Hugo. Okay. I don't know why all of a sudden that's felt weird for me to say.

SPEAKER_00 5:55

This is an embarrassing one, but I thought Julia Louis Dreyfus was married to Richard Dreyfus for years.

SPEAKER_02 6:01

Well, she does have that dash in there, right?

SPEAKER_00 6:02

So like so I thought for sure that they were just had been married forever, and there's definitely no connection between them.

SPEAKER_02 6:09

There's so much nepotism in Hollywood. I mean, you never know. It's a safe bet, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:14

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 6:15

Anyway, let's talk about the babysitter.

SPEAKER_00 6:18

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 6:19

Let me real quick. I we're gonna do things a little bit differently, I think. I have a bunch of facts here, and I just want to go through them real quick.

SPEAKER_00 6:25

Do it.

SPEAKER_02 6:25

Babysitter, uh horror comedy, came out in 2017, directed by Mick G, who is like he's a music video guy, right? He was, but he also directed the Charlie Angels movies with uh Drew Barrymore.

SPEAKER_01 6:38

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 6:39

Back in the day. Uh writer Brian Duffield, who also wrote Underwater with um Kristen Stewart. You ever see that movie?

SPEAKER_01 6:51

I don't know. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 6:53

And also Love and Love and Monsters, which is sort of very similar to this movie as far as like his ideas of guys that have crushes on beautiful women. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 7:04

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_02 7:05

But it was like it was like a post-apocalyptic thing where like monsters took over the world and everyone lived underground, and he has to like go find his girlfriend in a different underground place. Anyway. Starring Samara Weaving, Judah Lewis, Hane May Lee, or Hane May Lee, Robbie Emil. I don't know how to say his last name. Do you know?

SPEAKER_00 7:25

Uh no.

SPEAKER_02 7:26

Okay. Bellathorn and King Batch.

SPEAKER_00 7:30

King Batch?

SPEAKER_02 7:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:33

That's a cool name.

SPEAKER_02 7:34

Yeah, he was like a Vine guy. He was like on Vine back in the day.

SPEAKER_00 7:38

Nice.

SPEAKER_02 7:39

Anyway, that's it. That's all I got. I thought I thought that'd be cool to start that way.

SPEAKER_00 7:42

Yeah, I think that's a good thing.

SPEAKER_02 7:44

Maybe we should start like putting in like Metacritic score in here too. Just so people have that.

SPEAKER_00 7:49

Isn't it like a like a 6.7? I'm pretty sure. I don't look at Rotten Tomatoes because I think Rotten Tomatoes is stupid.

SPEAKER_02 7:56

Um, that's why I look at Metacritic.

SPEAKER_00 7:58

What's Metacritic is what I should check out?

SPEAKER_02 8:00

They apply weights to like certain critics, so like certain critics' opinions are worth more than others.

SPEAKER_00 8:07

Okay. I appreciate that.

SPEAKER_02 8:08

Yeah. So it's not just like and it's not binary, right? So it's not like it's either good or bad, and that equals the percentage.

SPEAKER_00 8:14

It's more of a like we should definitely start including this. But since we don't have the numbers right now, I will tell you that it's like a 6.7 on IMDB.

SPEAKER_02 8:22

Yeah, but that's that's people ratings.

SPEAKER_00 8:24

That's true.

SPEAKER_02 8:25

Those are those are just user ratings. But I would ag yeah, I think that's a round problem.

SPEAKER_00 8:29

We'll pull up the Metacritic rating real quick. Let's find out. Okay, if we're doing this, let's just go.

SPEAKER_02 8:33

It's gonna feel like this is super quick. Well it's not gonna be. Let me see. What's this called? It has a six no, that's user review. Huh. It doesn't even it doesn't even have a Metacritic. There's only four only four people reviewed this movie, apparently, according to Metacritic.

SPEAKER_00 8:52

I don't think it got a lot of uh views.

SPEAKER_02 8:56

I didn't see it until like I wonder if this is like before Netflix was like big enough for like a lot of critics to actually like write reviews about the movies or whatever.

SPEAKER_00 9:06

Yeah, that makes sense. But also like when this movie came out, I don't know how popular it was. I know that I didn't find out about it until a while after it had come out.

SPEAKER_02 9:15

And then it was like, plus, I mean well, I mean, there was a sequel, so I had to do some way.

SPEAKER_00 9:19

That's that's true. That's a very good point.

SPEAKER_02 9:22

Anyway, so you've seen this movie before. I just watched it for the first time last night.

SPEAKER_00 9:28

So what'd you think? Um I you know So there's there's some points you enjoyed, but mostly low notes for you.

SPEAKER_02 9:38

Well, it's this movie feels weird to judge because I think it it has this vibe to it, like it's a it's like a student film. It has like this vibe to it. Like clearly, someone who wrote this movie like loves movies and wanted to be a writer, and like there's a lot of like his influence and what he likes in this movie, right? There's a lot, obviously there's a lot of references to other movies. And I like that it doesn't feel like Big Corporation Studio just like trying to get every trend jammed into a cookie cutter movie. It feels like, oh no, actually, a movie fan actually wrote this and is probably passionate about the script. So I like that. I just think that it's a cheap movie and it's enjoyable if you just like put it on and you have nothing to watch and like whatever, this is fine.

SPEAKER_00 10:23

What were you saying about it?

SPEAKER_02 10:24

I don't want to I don't want to I know you like it so much, so I feel bad about like.

SPEAKER_00 10:28

I actually I will tell you, I mean, I hadn't watched this movie in probably probably four years. I know I made Chloe watch it right when we first got together, so yeah, it's probably been four years since I've seen it. Um and following Ready or Not up with this, um I see similarities. Obviously, it's not like the exact same storyline, but there's a lot of similarities. But one is like you see watching them back to back the cheapness of Netflix movies versus theatrical releases. Yeah. It's like very apparent, especially when you watch follow the theatrical release with the Netflix release.

SPEAKER_02 11:08

Yeah. But like I, you know, low budget for me is fine. I think there's a I don't know how to describe it. Like I was cringing a lot. Like I was like not like watching, first of all, the relationship between her and the kid. I like it overall. Like, I like what I can see what they're doing. Obviously, this has been done before, sort of thing, right? Where the kid has like a crush on her and she's like the the girl that every guy w wants. You know what I mean? Like that bullshit. But it was so cringy to me, some of their conversations. And I and I couldn't put it put it if it was because of the acting delivery, was it the writing, was it the filmmaking, was it all of it? But again, I'm I'm trying not to be harsh on it because like I think this is a movie that you just put on because like you're you're bored and like this looks fun, and it and it is fun, yeah. You know what I mean? Like it is fun, like there's there's also like actually a couple like really great moments in this movie, but it doesn't feel like a complete thought, and a lot of like the characters just not and see, I feel like I'm being too harsh on it because of what it is, but like a lot of the characters are very inconsistent. Like this kid is supposed to be smart and nerdy, but then he's like using a knife on his model car to like operate on it, and then he like do you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 12:22

And then like that he's overly confident.

SPEAKER_02 12:26

We all know, but like then he's like overly confident.

SPEAKER_00 12:28

What kind of fucking genius uses a kitchen knife on a model car?

SPEAKER_02 12:33

He's just jamming it in there. Um, but uh he's also overly confident, suddenly out of nowhere. And I don't think the film does a good job of like it doesn't earn the pay showing yeah, he doesn't like I don't see the steps that got went from like a fearful, over-nervous kid to like super confident kid.

SPEAKER_00 12:53

I think the intention was kind of that scene with Max chasing him and but also kind of being like trying to pep him up into being a man and being like good one, buddy, blah blah whatever, you know. Like, I think that was supposed to be like a a transitional moment for him.

SPEAKER_02 13:12

Um but he's also very confident in that moment. That's true. I mean, the minute they they get him tied up to that chair and he's like, Why is that guy's shirt? Why doesn't that guy wearing a shirt?

SPEAKER_00 13:21

That actually was really funny.

SPEAKER_02 13:22

Yeah, I thought that was funny, but like he's so confident already. Do you know what I mean? Like he's like, why is cracking? Like he's he was terrified a second ago. He fainted apparently in his room, even though I I thought he was maybe drugged. I didn't realize why he fell over. Um again, I'm trying not to be harsh, but like you're asking me what I thought, and I feel like this movie feels like you know how like influencers make songs sometimes, and you're like, it's fine, but there's a reasonable certain people. I guess this is a famous singers. That's how I feel about this movie. And there are a lot of influencers in the movie. It's like the influencers made a movie to me. I am I being an asshole, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 14:03

No, not at all.

SPEAKER_02 14:04

Yeah, why don't you talk about this movie?

SPEAKER_00 14:06

I like this new rapport we have going where you're the critic and I'm like, it's great.

SPEAKER_02 14:11

I don't hate the movie. Like, I here's the thing, I'm trying to like just set expectations.

SPEAKER_00 14:14

Like this movie, if I look at it when I was watching it last night, I was like, okay, doesn't hold up to what I remember. Um and I was like, Ben will think it's fun, but he's not gonna think it's good.

SPEAKER_02 14:27

Yes. Like I wasn't like, Oh, I wish I didn't watch that. What a waste of my time.

SPEAKER_00 14:31

Should we start doing that with uh movies that neither of us have seen, each write one line about what we think the other person will think about it and then share at the opening? Yeah. That'd be fun.

SPEAKER_02 14:41

I like that a lot, actually. That would be fun.

SPEAKER_00 14:44

Okay. So things I okay, I love a good coming of age horror. As we're like doing this and we're like really like and I'm excited about it, and I'm excited to see certain movies, and I'm hating the terrifier. Um, yes, I'm realizing what shapes my love of horror. And it's actually horror comedy and coming of age stories. Like, you know, even the scream movies when they get outside of like the high school setting, I don't enjoy them as much as the high school setting. And, you know, I love that this is a coming of age. Like I you know, I love it because it's one of the best coming of age movies ever, not because it's like an amazing.

SPEAKER_02 15:21

You loved it the movie, not it as in this movie we just watched.

SPEAKER_00 15:25

Stephen King's it. I guess that's why everybody refers to it as Stephen King's It.

unknown 15:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:30

In the marketing, they're like, this is gonna be confusing for people.

SPEAKER_00 15:35

I really like the the main kid.

SPEAKER_02 15:37

I think he'd Oh, I love the main kid.

SPEAKER_00 15:39

Like the scene when um he gets caught looking at her boobs and his reaction shots.

SPEAKER_02 15:45

I knew you were gonna bring that up.

SPEAKER_00 15:46

Because it's hilarious, and I would get caught looking at her boobs.

SPEAKER_02 15:50

Yeah, I mean, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:51

I mean, all my notes are like, she's so hot, I wish she was my babysitter. Like, like this is the whole point that makes this movie fun is you're like, this woman is so beautiful, she's so dangerous, she could kill me. Why am I so attracted to her?

SPEAKER_02 16:05

I agree. I think for me, it's like I th again, I'm trying, I'm being harsh because I'm being asked to be critical of the movie, right? Um, and because of that, I'm looking at it there. I I think it feels like sort of like an 80s movie in a way. But but again, it's it feels like a fan, like a student film where it's like it's almost that.

SPEAKER_00 16:26

What's the one where they make the geeks make the girl out of their computer?

SPEAKER_02 16:30

Yeah, weird science.

SPEAKER_00 16:31

Weird science. It feels like that in ways, right?

SPEAKER_02 16:34

But just not but then I and I was actually thinking about it while I was watching, I was like, what could you do to make this movie feel like what about those movies in the 80s felt more like a real movie than this does? Do you know what I mean? And I couldn't quite figure it out. And I think part of it is like there and this is boring. I I apologize, it's tangent. I'm on the No, not at all.

SPEAKER_00 16:53

I'm interested.

SPEAKER_02 16:54

I think they considered casting a lot more. They they were more interested in in depicting some sort of style, whether it be the outfits that the people had on, the casting of it, the music that was being played, the even the the environment itself. Like I think about a movie like um Empire Records, that is like objectively probably not a good movie, but it had so much iconic visuals and and the casting was so good, and the clothing that they were wearing was so good.

SPEAKER_00 17:23

I have to throw me I have to throw in a hot take real quick right here because I didn't know this until after we did this episode, and I was so bummed to not have it for the episode. In Scream 5, Liv. Yes, the chick who gets shot in the face, who's Mason Goodyan's girlfriend. Her name is Liv after Liv Tyler, and her outfit, the long sleeves and the plaid skirt, is Liv Tyler's outfit from Empire Records.

SPEAKER_02 17:46

From Empire Records. That's dope. But I can picture that. See, I can picture that outfit in my head. I couldn't tell you what any of those people were wearing except for maybe some R weaving.

SPEAKER_00 17:54

I can we can well, I mean, you know, like um Oh, and the cheerleading. The cheerleading outfit. But it's like the most basic cheerleading outfit.

SPEAKER_02 18:00

Exactly. And so, like, I think, and that you know, it's it's a I just think that there's a lot of work that goes into making these stories that are like nostalgic and sort of like, remember those things we used to love? Here's a movie that's similar to that. But there's less of a emphasis on trying to figure out the visual impact, or I don't even know how to say it, you know what I mean? But like nothing about this movie is memorable visually.

SPEAKER_00 18:24

Yeah. I just read in the trivia that um in the IMDB trivia where I like to spend too many hours. I read that in the original draft, Max, the like tough guy, like had dreadlocks, and like the cheerleader's secret thing was that she wanted to be a journalist, which actually would have been like I think.

SPEAKER_02 18:42

Oh, and they put that in the movie. They did put that in the movie. That's yeah, she says it to him right before she attacks him, and he's like, Oh, you you could totally be a journalist. You'd be so good at that.

SPEAKER_00 18:51

What it is, I think she was swapped, like the kind of the characters were swapped with her and the other girl. It was something like that. Oh, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_02 18:57

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:59

But basically, so I was reading, like, well, so basically they went and they took how these different characters were written and intentionally tried to then make them more of horror tropes. I think that's where they maybe like they were like, we're making fun of this, so let's make them tropes, but it didn't hit that they were necessarily making fun of it. So it just seemed like another rip-off of a million fucking movies.

SPEAKER_02 19:26

Yeah, yes. And I think to my point earlier, where I was like, it this feels like it was written by someone who clearly likes who was more playing homage to the things that he loves than like a studio ch chasing trends. But in this case, it seems like maybe someone stepped in and was like, no, let's make it more uh obvious, like yeah looking. And that sort of to me, maybe it would have been better if there was more like original looks to these characters or like personalities or whatnot. But also the casting, like it does seem like, and this will be the last like real rant that I go on, but they cast a bunch of people that were influencers and what I think they thought were like what young people like. I don't know. I and it's I it's more of a a transactional business decision, I felt like casting who they cast than actually thinking about the character like on the page and who would be great and memorable for that. For the for a lot of them, not for everybody, obviously. I think the kid was great, Smart Weaving's great, and um there were some great jokes that a lot of the cast delivered fine, but I don't know. Anyway, that's that's all I have to say about that. I don't know. I I you know I don't hate this movie, I think it's fun, but I guess I'm just trying to set expectations to when people watch it, like I don't know, you know what I mean? Like it could have been maybe better. Well it could have Yeah And I think part of what's great about this movie is like it's one of those movies that you might just like discover that no one talks about, and you're like, oh, this is fun. Why doesn't no one talk about this movie? Like this is cool.

SPEAKER_00 21:01

But I remember the first time I saw it. I love like I I really loved it. Um but I also think horror comedy hadn't made as much of a resurgence as it has recently. And so when you think about this coming out before Ready or Not, and um like the scream movies had gotten darker. Um like what was doing horror comedy really then?

SPEAKER_02 21:27

Yeah. And I don't think it's bad in that sense. Like, I think Yeah, did you see that movie Killer? What was it called? You know the one where she like time travels? It's like a slasher movie, but she time travels back to like her mom when she was in high school. It's like Back to the Future meets like a slasher movie.

SPEAKER_00 21:43

No idea what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_02 21:45

It was some Amazon thing, but it was like one of the a similar thing where it was like this is fun and uh and I think they're doing something kind of clever, but it's the execution just seemed uh cheap. Yeah. Or not as anyway, I don't want to sit here and just bash this movie. Let's talk about like things that you liked about this movie and like why you like it and Specific moments. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:02

I mean, my most favorite scene in this whole movie is the two of them watching the movie on the garage and acting out the scenes too. Dude, I love that by the way. It's such a great moment.

SPEAKER_02 22:13

I was also like, why haven't I ever projected a movie on the back of my house? Like I need to be doing that.

SPEAKER_00 22:19

That scene is by far my favorite scene in the movie. I think that's the one scene in it that really feels like um inventive, not point and shoot.

SPEAKER_02 22:28

Yeah. I I like how it comes back later, too.

SPEAKER_00 22:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:32

She also seems very genuine in this scene. Like it seems like she like cares about this kid.

SPEAKER_00 22:38

It is such a good moment. You know, I've been thinking a lot because our Ready Or Not episode came out this morning, and we talked so much about over explaining, over-explaining. And I listened to our episode, and I was thinking about it, and it's like, it's just crazy how, like, you know, when we were kids studying writing, everything we were constantly told is show, don't tell, show, don't tell. For yeah, for movies. And it seems like that's been completely thrown out. And it's like, tell, and then tell it five more times, which is so obnoxious. And I think that what is so special about this scene is that without talking about their relationship at all, it shows so much about their relationship.

SPEAKER_02 23:20

Yeah. I agree. I think this is before like the mandate from Amazon of having to constantly tell audience what's going on.

SPEAKER_01 23:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:30

It would be it's kind of interesting to go back and watch movies from Netflix's past. Also, if you were, you know, what you were saying about it not actually being a Netflix movie at first and then them like buying it or whatever. Well, at what point did they just start to like m mandate this? And and and really why? Like, did they feel like they weren't getting the viewership and they were like, well, maybe if we made things easier to follow, people wouldn't stop watching? Where you know what I mean? Like, I wonder when that happened, and and to see, because I feel like there were lots of stuff randomly bringing up Sense 8 again, not a show that held your hand at all.

SPEAKER_01 24:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:04

Right? Very confusing if you're not paying attention. And then suddenly now everything is like what you're saying. But I want you to talk more. I feel like I'm talking too much and I'm just bashing the shit out of this movie that I actually enjoyed.

SPEAKER_00 24:17

Okay. So before the parents left, before we get this great scene of them watching the movie, uh, I hated the scene when the parents were leaving in the house. Leaving the house.

SPEAKER_02 24:29

POV scene?

SPEAKER_00 24:30

Yeah, they're talking to the camera. Fucking hated that.

SPEAKER_02 24:32

Yes. I I was like, why are we doing this randomly?

SPEAKER_00 24:36

That was like the most distracting take me out of the movie shot in the whole thing.

SPEAKER_02 24:40

Yeah, I didn't understand like what the intent of that scene was because it's like usually when you flip into POV, there's a purpose to it, right? Like you think about Halloween in the opening scene where it's all from his perspective, whereas he's killing people. Like that adds that you know, and you're in the killer's eyes. That's like an extra layer there. But this, I was just like, what is this adding here? I don't understand.

SPEAKER_00 25:03

Like, I yeah, it didn't add anything.

SPEAKER_02 25:07

It was like, let me let me have fun with camera angles, but it was so there was a couple moments like that, like when they would like put text on the screen that was like uh what was it? It was a pocket knife.

SPEAKER_00 25:21

Yeah, I I didn't mind that.

SPEAKER_02 25:22

Well, like the 10 and 2 thing when he grabbed the steering wheel. I was like, just it'd be funny if you just said 10 and 2. I don't need to see a clock in the steering wheel. Like that just seems redundant.

SPEAKER_00 25:31

Well, you know, you know for for all the 12-year-olds who were watching this movie who don't know how to drive yet.

SPEAKER_02 25:36

Maybe, yeah, maybe we're just out of demographic for this movie.

SPEAKER_00 25:39

I do, I do think this is probably intended for a younger audience. I think this is definitely intended for like the 12-year-olds.

SPEAKER_02 25:48

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it was pretty graphic though.

SPEAKER_00 25:52

Yeah, but it's silly graphic.

SPEAKER_02 25:55

Yeah. When they stabbed that kid in the that guy in the head, I was like, holy shit. Yeah. Here's where all the budget is right here.

SPEAKER_00 26:02

I love that um this kid's like introduction to my babysitter is evil is literally watching her stick two swords through that dude's head. Like there's no like hand holding into she might actually be a bad person. It's like, oh, she is awful.

SPEAKER_02 26:19

Did you see that? Here's what I thought was happening. Because I remember seeing this trailer way back in the day. Like, way like in literally 2017 or whatever when this movie was originally coming out. And they make it seem like I don't remember, but my my thought was like they needed the kid's blood. Mm-hmm. So my whole thing, which I guess they did need it, but my whole thing was like, I thought they were gonna kill this guy, end up he's not like a virgin, which is what they needed. And then they were gonna go, I guess we can kill the kid who's like saw this anyway, and they were gonna go after his blood in the same way. But then it was like, oh no, we just mix your blood with anybody's blood. And I was like, oh, okay. Like I was I was expecting them to like completely just go after him instead of like we're just gonna take a sh like a syringe and just take a little bit of his blood out. And then the movie's more about him not telling the cops what they did. Yeah, you know what I mean? I was wrong. But uh, let's not like what did you know that was gonna happen? Did you like what what? Like this lead up to this movie.

SPEAKER_00 27:18

I had no idea what this movie was about the first time I watched it, which I think is.

SPEAKER_02 27:22

So you just started it up and you were like a friend was over who was like, Have you seen this movie?

SPEAKER_00 27:28

And I was like, No. And they were like, Do you know what it is? And I was like, No, and they were like, Oh my god, we have to watch it right now. And I was like, Okay. Yeah. So I went in completely blind, which made it very enjoyable.

SPEAKER_02 27:38

What do you feel about like some standout? What are some standout moments for you?

SPEAKER_00 27:45

Um, not in a not in a good way, but in a constantly distracting way for me. Every time they shot something outside by the house, I was like, why the fuck is this house so tall? Like it is the weirdest tall house I've ever seen. Like, yeah. Do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 28:04

Why are there so many spiders in the basement that are huge? Right?

SPEAKER_00 28:07

What the fuck was that? If I had you have to call like if I had that in my fucking under my house, do you know how many exterminators would be at my house in?

SPEAKER_02 28:17

You're not calling exterminators, you're calling like animal control.

SPEAKER_00 28:20

I would be listing my house and moving. No fucking way.

SPEAKER_02 28:23

These were the biggest bars I've ever seen in my life.

SPEAKER_00 28:26

What do you think of that scene with him hiding in the crawl space? I thought that one was like kind of a fun limit.

SPEAKER_02 28:30

I like that scene.

SPEAKER_00 28:31

I liked the shot of him under the like cloth or sack or whatever it was. Sometimes I feel like that doesn't pay off because it's too obvious that there's a camera under there with you. And this one kind of had that, but I was focused enough on the kids' like reaction that I wasn't like.

SPEAKER_02 28:51

Yeah. I like that scene. Yeah. There was suspense and tension there, unlike Read It or Not 2. And I like that he blew the shit out of her. I did too. When he sprays her with the bug thing, and then I first of all I was like, good thing you grabbed that drill. Like, this couldn't have been your plan. But I'm glad you got that drill.

SPEAKER_00 29:07

Also, how did how did that not like catch the house on fire?

SPEAKER_02 29:11

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:15

I don't know. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 29:16

It's a firework. Do fireworks catch fire? Like, I don't know. She caught on fire. I love how Max was like, Did you kill her? Good for you, kid. Or whatever he was saying. I actually like that a lot. Obviously, he was a psychopath.

SPEAKER_00 29:28

I didn't like him, but it He ended up being pretty funny.

SPEAKER_02 29:33

He was pretty funny. Yeah. Actually. And I've seen that guy before. I think he was like on Arrow or something.

SPEAKER_00 29:38

I had never seen him in anything, um, but I just read that he was in the duff. Oh yeah, that's right. With Bella Thorne. I like that movie. With who? Bella Thorne was in it too.

SPEAKER_02 29:53

Ella Forne?

SPEAKER_00 29:55

Bella Thorne. The other two.

SPEAKER_02 29:57

Who the hell is Bella Thorne?

SPEAKER_00 29:59

She was, I think.

SPEAKER_02 29:59

When I was reading the cast, I was like, that was I was like, that's Bella Thorne. Like I know I've heard that name a million times, but I thought she was an influencer of some kind.

SPEAKER_00 30:07

No, she I think she was a Disney girly, but then when the Miley's and the Arianas and every Zendayas took flight, she got left behind and has been trying to claw her way back into the spotlight, but kind of has more of a Lindsay Lohan thing going than a Zendaya thing going.

SPEAKER_02 30:26

Yeah, I like that scene. I I you know I was almost sad to see him die. Though I guess he comes back in the sequel because I I saw the cast for the sequel and they're all like in it. A lot of them are in it again. What I you know what's interesting about this movie is that it was on the blacklist. Yeah, it was voted.

SPEAKER_00 30:43

I read that too, that it was like 2014's um voted as one of the most popular unproduced scripts.

SPEAKER_02 30:49

You know what's funny? The more of these unproduced, these blacklist scripts that I get to see, every time I watch them, I'm like, that was unique, that was interesting, but I can see why it didn't get made. Like it's not exactly top tier. It's like, remember the one with Mel Gibson where he had like he like talked to his puppet with Jody Foster?

SPEAKER_00 31:08

Oh, the beaver.

SPEAKER_02 31:10

Yeah. Like, do you know what I'm saying? It's like always these movies that are like, I you're trying something, and I appreciate that.

SPEAKER_00 31:17

But you're just not next level in your craft.

SPEAKER_02 31:20

It's exactly, it's just not, I get why passed on.

SPEAKER_00 31:24

I might be totally wrong on this, but wasn't the black phone on the blacklist? No, there's no fucking way, because that was Stephen King's kid, so there's no way they want to just produce his script.

SPEAKER_02 31:34

But I really feel like it was, but Wait, that was Stephen King's kid, Joe Hill?

SPEAKER_00 31:38

Yeah. It is? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:40

Dude, we gotta watch those movies because I love Joe Hill.

SPEAKER_00 31:43

I haven't seen the second one.

SPEAKER_02 31:44

I have yeah, I haven't seen the first one. You haven't seen The Black Phone? No, I it was one of those movies where again, uh I'm so I was like, this looks like a Netflix movie.

SPEAKER_00 31:53

Now that we're not no, it is for I'm pretty sure it's PG 13, so that's why I was like, mmm, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 32:00

Well, now that I know it's Joe Hill, I'm gonna do it.

SPEAKER_00 32:01

It was like the scariest PG 13 movie I've ever seen since What Lies Beneath. And also now that we have decided that for scary movie we're doing the previous and one we got some slots to fill. I think we should just do this right away because I haven't seen two and I've been dying too.

SPEAKER_02 32:14

Okay, well, let's finish Babysitter first.

SPEAKER_00 32:16

Yes. That the the thing that we're on.

SPEAKER_02 32:19

Yes. No, I mean like this this like we'll do the second one too. Yes, I agree. Okay, yeah. And then, yeah, let's do those. Yeah, I love Joe Hill. Horns. I read that book back in the day. I was like, this is fine.

SPEAKER_00 32:29

Oh, yeah, with the Daniel, they made it the Daniel Radcliffe movie.

SPEAKER_02 32:32

They did. I never saw the movie.

SPEAKER_00 32:33

I bought the book, but I never read it, but I saw the movie. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:35

Doesn't it? It's like his girlfriend gets murdered and then he grows and he gets blamed for it, or not really, but then he grows horns, and like anything he says, people do. So like he he tells this one girl like not to stop eating donuts, like at the very beginning, and she just like keeps eating donuts and keeps eating donuts, and then like he tells these two cops to like go down on each other, and they do, and like it's like it's a little different from the movie. I I think that's what I heard, that's why I didn't watch the movie.

SPEAKER_00 33:02

Now I want to read the book. I bought I have it somewhere.

SPEAKER_02 33:04

It's great. It's like Stand By Me Meets uh I don't know, something supernatural. Because they also flash back to his childhood and like like these people that he he knew who were like his enemies now in the present. Like it's really cool. Uh but he also did like the uh lock and key comic books, which I love.

SPEAKER_00 33:24

I remember watching that show because you said you loved those comic books.

SPEAKER_02 33:27

Yeah, but he I didn't watch the show because I just like there's no way they can do this justice.

SPEAKER_00 33:31

Interesting. Okay, so so back to the So back to the baby story.

SPEAKER_02 33:36

This is a blacklist script. Um which I find anyway, I went on my rant on that.

SPEAKER_00 33:42

It would be interesting. I'd like to pull a list of like top performing movies that were blacklist scripts and see if they're all kind of fall into this like trope of like it's decent.

SPEAKER_02 33:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:56

It's sixes and sevens.

SPEAKER_02 33:58

Yeah. To me, they're like, yeah, like sevens most of the time, right?

SPEAKER_00 34:02

And I don't mind it because six or seven.

SPEAKER_02 34:04

Well, I'm being harsh on this movie because uh we have to be. I I did not hate my time with this movie. Um what do you think about the neighbor girl and that whole like uh scene? See, I can't stop cringing while I'm watching this movie.

SPEAKER_00 34:19

I think when he gets into the younger love story with her, it gets a little it felt kind of like Halloween, like trying to like pay homage to Halloween with uh little Tommy hiding in the bathtub and with the little girl and whatever. Um but also I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 34:40

I just yeah it was a little cringy for me. I like how at the end, like I like the payoff at it, but that specific scene in the bathroom is just it plays very awkward and yeah cringe.

SPEAKER_00 34:56

Also, I think um like I I don't think he needed a new interest to like find his like manhood. Like I think the better story would have been defeating his babysitter and finding that he didn't need that, and then in the next one finding like some sort of love interest, but not in this one.

SPEAKER_02 35:17

Yeah, I agree. Why did all of the uh cultists attack him individually?

SPEAKER_00 35:26

Yeah, where did they all go when they split up?

SPEAKER_02 35:28

Where was Samara Weaving for like a good 15 minutes of this movie?

SPEAKER_00 35:32

Well, she didn't want to kill him. I guess she was cleaning the uh cleaning the evidence, yeah. Letting everybody do the dirty work because she didn't want to kill him. Did she or didn't she? Let's ask this question. Do we think Samara Weaving actually, you know, I think it was clear that the intention was to not kill him. But when it came down to key knows we have to kill him, did she want to? Could she have done it?

SPEAKER_02 35:56

I think, yeah, because I mean she stalked him with that shotgun in the other house. Like I was like, oh, when she walked, I thought the whole time, like, she's gonna be like, whatever, I just need your blood, and like let's clean this up. Please don't tell the cops, and then she's gonna bail, go on the road or whatever. That'd be the end. But then when she's like looking for him with the shotgun in the neighbor's house, I'm like, okay, she wants to kill him.

SPEAKER_00 36:16

No, that's like a fear tactic. Like, I've I've got the gun, so come with me. I have force.

SPEAKER_02 36:21

I mean, I know she has that line later where she's like, I was just trying to scare you, but I'm like, okay, I was convinced you were trying to kill him at this point. So I don't know. And then she gets hit by that car.

SPEAKER_00 36:30

She's like, I don't understand why he needed to take the car and and launch it through a that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_02 36:37

Like, there's this whole setup of him like being afraid to drive with his dad at the very beginning, where he's like in the driver's seat and he's like, he turns the car on, then he turns it off. He's like, not today. I'm too scared, I'm too nervous. He's like, All right, buddy, we'll we'll try. At least you turn the car on this time or whatever. And then at the end, so when he gets in the car and drives it, it's he's like overcoming his fear.

SPEAKER_00 36:55

But that whole setup and payoff didn't work for me because I first of all didn't believe that he didn't he wasn't willing to just try to drive once in the parking lot. I mean, I remember my first time driving and going down a hill, and then my dad being like turn right and being like, ah, and almost wrecking the car. But I wasn't like, I'm not gonna do this. Every kid was like, Yeah, let me try.

SPEAKER_02 37:16

Yeah. And so in an empty fears were not realistic to me.

SPEAKER_00 37:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:22

Why is he getting a shot at school? Does that ever happen?

SPEAKER_00 37:26

No. Well, did it used to? I feel like I feel like years ago in elementary school it did.

SPEAKER_02 37:32

If you got a shot while by the school nurse, let us know. Because there's no way.

SPEAKER_00 37:38

Yeah, did that happen? I don't know. There's no way. Also, I have a note. Tell me if you can uh tell me what this meant. I remember there was a reference for alien to alien somewhere.

SPEAKER_02 37:48

Oh, yeah. Okay, yeah. They have this cute moment where they're like, okay, you're your your five-man crew to take on the big bad or whatever. And they all have their like oh, this is what my note says.

SPEAKER_00 38:02

Okay, I thought it said sis, but it says five is. Okay, my note says Ripley being five is ridiculous. Uh Ripley should be way higher on the list. Yeah. 100%.

SPEAKER_02 38:13

Kirk and Picard first. Come on. Yeah, fuck that. Ripley is all you need, to be honest. Who else do you need? It's just gonna be me and Ripley. I'll be safe. Yes. Um I like that conversation. He also listed the xenomorph, I think the hatchling or the face hugger. Um I forget what his was. His was really good, though. What was his? I was like, perfect.

SPEAKER_00 38:40

Truthfully, I didn't know half the references.

SPEAKER_02 38:44

Really? I thought my problem with that scene was like these are the most obvious. Like, you know, nerds like Star Trek, here's Captain Kirk. There was no Star Wars in there. There was no Star Wars. No one was like, give me cheese, gimme Han Solo. The writers clearly we're Trekkies, and yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:01

Are there Trekys who are Star Wars fans?

SPEAKER_02 39:04

I'm sure nowadays, like it I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 39:06

Does it change your perspective of this kid knowing like are the Trekys the nerds and the Star Wars fans the like? Yeah, I mean, yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_02 39:15

Like the cool kids are the ones that yeah. Okay. Star Wars is cool, Star Trek is nerdy, even though it's both nerdy. You know what I mean? Fair. So, anyway. But Aliens, my favorite action movie of all time. That movie's so fucking good, man.

SPEAKER_00 39:30

That movie is the reason I would never wanted to be pregnant. I always thought of the scene of the I mean, you know the scene, the alien popping out of his fucking chest.

SPEAKER_02 39:40

Oh yeah. In the first one.

SPEAKER_00 39:41

Yeah. And I was just like, oh yeah, because that's alien, right? And then there's aliens.

SPEAKER_02 39:46

Yeah.

unknown 39:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:47

Anyways, that that I was like, I'm I'm good. I don't need to grow anything inside of me.

SPEAKER_02 39:52

Imagine if babies popped out of your chest.

SPEAKER_00 39:55

I mean, that'd be great.

SPEAKER_02 39:58

Yeah, it's beautiful. The circle of life. What else do we want to talk about?

SPEAKER_00 40:03

What about the parents? I really like Ken. What's his last name?

SPEAKER_02 40:10

Yeah, I like that guy. He he was in like party down.

SPEAKER_00 40:12

Yeah. My wife hates him for some reason that I do not understand. She cannot stand him.

SPEAKER_02 40:18

Some people just have that, you know.

SPEAKER_00 40:19

I think he's hilarious, and I really like Leslie Bibb. Um and I think they were so underutilized as the biggest names in this movie.

SPEAKER_02 40:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:30

Ken Marino, that's his name.

SPEAKER_02 40:33

It did seem like random to have them in this movie. That's what I'm saying. This is like a shell, this is like a student film. It's like it's like a shell of a really good movie that just like they could remake this movie and it could be great. So, what would you do to make it better? I would change the obvious cringe dialogue. I would try to make their relationship a little bit more natural feeling, a little bit more strong. Like it is weird that it's almost like this writer wrote this when he was 14 and still had a babysitter. It it like it feels like it was written by someone who's 19 years old.

SPEAKER_00 41:05

It doesn't feel like someone who was like, But then doesn't that almost make the cringe dialogue more realistic?

SPEAKER_02 41:12

Maybe no.

SPEAKER_00 41:13

I mean, like, think about I don't I'm I'm pretty sure you don't hang out with a lot of teenage kids. I hope you don't. Um I do not.

SPEAKER_02 41:21

Everyone, I do not.

SPEAKER_00 41:22

But having some some teenage nieces and nephews and like listening to the ways that they talk. Yeah. It is so cringe.

SPEAKER_02 41:32

It is so like I don't even mean like the way they're talking. It's more just like bad writing. It's just bad writing. And and I think that I like something like we were talking about this, like Jennifer's body, which is like feels more of a real movie. It's something about the feel of that movie, the look of that movie, yeah, the way that they captured that movie. This doesn't have that sort of identity to it. Like we can sit here and say, like, oh, it's a horror comedy with like well, but like Would you do you think this is a ripoff of Jennifer's body? No, but I think it's in the same genre. You know what else bothered me? You know what really bothered me? They never fucking told us what everybody wanted.

SPEAKER_00 42:12

One wanted to be a journalist.

SPEAKER_02 42:15

No, like as they're I guess that's true, but like as they're like, what was hurt? What was hurt?

SPEAKER_00 42:19

Yeah, we don't know what Samara Weaving wants.

SPEAKER_02 42:22

No, I wanted to know so badly what they were committing this act, this heinous act for. Like what the devil was gonna give them. And they don't really explain anyone except for like the journalist thing, which like That actually would have been kind of how lame is that if you're gonna murder someone, like at least like ask for millions of dollars or something like that.

SPEAKER_00 42:38

Just go with just go with the scream for trope and just be like, I want to be famous.

SPEAKER_02 42:43

I just want to be famous. Exactly. I want to be a journalist. Like, okay, study. I don't know, I'll tell you.

SPEAKER_00 42:49

I did think that her being wanting to be a journalist was funny, but I also just casting Bella Thorne. Sorry, Bella Thorne. I don't know you, but the choice made it already seem like we weren't taking characters seriously.

SPEAKER_02 43:08

Yeah. That's what I'm saying. This felt like almost a movie.

SPEAKER_00 43:14

Yeah, I I see your point. I get that.

SPEAKER_02 43:17

You know what I'm saying? Like, I didn't hate again, it's like a streaming movie. It would be like a straight to DVD movie.

unknown 43:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:22

It's like I think it has better quality than straight to DVD.

SPEAKER_02 43:25

It is a It's between a straight to DVD movie to uh or straight to video, however, whatever generation you're from, I don't know what you would call today. And like a real big budget movie. It's like in the middle there somehow. Which they call streaming. I guess they call it streaming.

SPEAKER_00 43:41

I'm curious though, I'm really curious to see what you're gonna think of the second one because this is what interesting.

SPEAKER_02 43:47

Do you like the second one more or worse?

SPEAKER_00 43:49

Uh, I like it less.

SPEAKER_02 43:50

Um because there's less Samara weaving.

SPEAKER_00 43:52

Yes, but then it's it was the first time I ever saw Jenna Ortega.

SPEAKER_02 43:56

Interesting. Yeah, I don't know how they're gonna get all these people back. They all You'll find out.

SPEAKER_00 44:01

You'll find out next week.

SPEAKER_02 44:03

Yeah. Well, I mean, is there anything else you want to talk about? Let me look at my notes. I feel like all I've done is like fucking rip it apart. Bash the shit out of this movie.

SPEAKER_00 44:11

That's okay. It's a slasher bash.

SPEAKER_02 44:13

It's a slasher. It's a it's a yeah. Yeah, it's a slasher bash for bashing this. Look, again, if we're gonna like recommend this movie, I think like, yeah, if you like c horror comedies, like you might as well put this on. Netflix has these movies, right? That like there's nothing to watch. Let me watch this like movie that someone really like put up their heart and soul into, but just like isn't as memorable. There's this movie called Metal Lords 2, I think it's called. Have you ever seen that? Where like two friends like are metal fans in high school and they make a band, but they like have a falling out, and like they're like they like get this girl who plays cello to be in the band, and like like it's like another one of those movies that it's like not great, and the acting is fine and it's shot fine.

SPEAKER_00 44:57

It's funny. I was I was really excited for you to watch this one because I was like on a high from watching ready or not, and I remember like I didn't dislike it.

SPEAKER_02 45:06

I want to be clear, like I'm I'm criticizing because that's what I'm thinking.

SPEAKER_00 45:09

But here's here's here's the thing, though, is like I think if we had watched these movies before Ready or Not, I think it's harder to go like it's the same actress, similar storyline, like yes, it's different, but it's not. Uh I think it's hard to go from great production to fine production. You know, if we'd started fine production and gone to great production, I think you can appreciate it more. But once you've had why goo, why do you want a New York strip? What'd you say? Why goo? Why goo? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:44

Oh, like steak? Yeah. I was like, why goo? What the hell is that?

SPEAKER_00 45:48

Well, why do you want to go back from that?

SPEAKER_02 45:50

I was imagining in my head, I was like, why W-H-Y Goo G-O-O. Why goo?

SPEAKER_00 45:57

Why goo? Also, do you know who her, I don't know if they're married or not, but do you know who her partner is? The dude who wrote cocaine bear, which people were like, you've got to see this as funny, and I thought that was so shitty.

SPEAKER_02 46:10

The writer of this movie produced cocaine bear.

SPEAKER_00 46:13

Interesting. It's all coming together.

SPEAKER_02 46:15

They all like eat, like they all just like hire their friend, which is fine.

SPEAKER_00 46:18

Yeah, I mean, I would if I get these jobs. But I thought cocaine bear was like a piece of shit. I did not think it was funny at all. I could not believe that you've had so many people involved in it.

SPEAKER_02 46:29

I feel like that was one of those movies where they were trying something like snakes on a plane, and and it just didn't like it's supposed to be sort of like overly campy and like stupid, but it just like I think those movies only work when like it was an accident.

SPEAKER_00 46:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 46:43

Do you know what I mean? Like something like Tremors that's just like a fun movie. Like if you were gonna make like, let's make something campy on purpose, then it doesn't work. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? It has to be campy on accident in a way.

SPEAKER_00 46:59

So would you say would you consider the babysitter campy?

SPEAKER_02 47:03

Yeah, there's some camp there. I think there's they obviously it was made by people that love camp. Like, I think obviously having the girl in the cheerleader outfit. Um, which like why would you go do like a satanic ritual in your cheerleader outfit? You know what I mean? Like that's camp, right? Like him being able to drive a car through a building is camp. Like the them getting the blood sprayed in his face.

SPEAKER_00 47:24

The image of them all like kind of sitting in the circle, like starting their little like uh ceremony. Yes. Um, but like they're like they're starting their ceremony thing and all of them and their campy tropes and whatever. And the way that the color, like the way it's lit and everything, to me, it looks like the cover of a teenage horror novel.

SPEAKER_02 47:49

Yeah, totally. Totally. Like, remember when uh like uh R. L. Stein did like those more mature young adult ones instead of.

SPEAKER_00 47:57

We should actually, did you watch those movies?

SPEAKER_02 47:59

Yeah, I did. I like those movies.

SPEAKER_00 48:01

They were good. We should do those. The one with Sadie Sink, I was like, whoa, this is way darker than I was.

SPEAKER_02 48:06

Emily Rudd's in that one. That's my new crush. Emily Rudd, who I was talking about earlier.

SPEAKER_00 48:10

Paul Rudd's daughter, sister.

SPEAKER_02 48:12

Yeah, she's not, she's not at all. But she's in that movie. What was that? Oh, Camp. Oh, the spin the bottle thing. I did like that scene. I liked how she like went around the room and like kissed everybody differently. I thought that was fun.

SPEAKER_00 48:26

I liked that too. Um, of course, I liked the lesbian kiss. Uh, but then when they like pulled the gun out of the room.

SPEAKER_02 48:32

I was like, I know why Maddie likes this movie. I don't need to watch anymore.

SPEAKER_00 48:36

But when she took the gum out of the room, I was like, that's a big fucking lot of gum. That's disgusting.

SPEAKER_02 48:43

Sharing gum grosses me out. I don't care if you just made out with the person. That's gross. It's a saliva sponge. Like, who wants that?

SPEAKER_00 48:50

It's not even saliva, it's like cleaning off the gingivitis off your teeth.

SPEAKER_02 48:55

So then you get the gingivitis of somebody else in your mouth.

SPEAKER_00 48:58

Yeah. In your mouth. You're not getting that kissing. You're only getting that sharing gum.

unknown 49:02

Ugh.

SPEAKER_02 49:03

Exactly. That's why gum sharing is disgusting.

SPEAKER_00 49:06

Do you think we can get a crest commercial off of this?

SPEAKER_01 49:09

Maybe.

SPEAKER_02 49:12

Uh yeah. I wish that was like, I don't know. That could have been a really cool scene. Like if they did a little bit more with it. Like I this is ridiculous. But if like Tarantino wrote that scene, there would be steps to it. There'd be like a fun moment, and then like a sort of like weird moment, then a scary moment, and then the death. It wouldn't just be like, spin the bottle, and I'm gonna kiss everyone, and then you're dead.

SPEAKER_00 49:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 49:33

Do you know what I mean? It's like so brushed over. They could have actually made that hit a little bit harder and be more memorable than it was as a scene. You know? And that kiss went on forever.

SPEAKER_00 49:44

Yeah, I didn't, I did not mind it.

SPEAKER_02 49:46

They got to a point where it was like, uh, I feel sort of like like I shouldn't be watching this. This doesn't seem a little personal now. It's going on for a long time.

SPEAKER_00 49:54

Yeah, but it didn't it it wasn't that passionate. You can tell that they were acting. They're not gay. Yeah, unfortunately. Although Bella Thorne is bisexual, so props to her.

SPEAKER_02 50:06

Is she the one that she kissed? I don't even remember. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 50:10

She's the gingerbitist. Cut that out.

SPEAKER_02 50:16

You think that's why her last name is Thorn, like a rose has thorns and roses are red?

SPEAKER_00 50:20

I probably that was a crazy connection. What uh so overall this movie has one great scene.

SPEAKER_02 50:29

No, give your real thoughts.

SPEAKER_00 50:30

No, I'm serious. This movie's fun. It's fun. I would give it like a I'd give it like a five or a six. What pushes it to like 6.57-ish is just that one fucking scene that I love. Like that scene is so Oh, you're talking about okay, I was not still stuck with that. Not the kiss, no, not the kiss. The the lesbian kiss is not what takes it to the top for me. I'm talking about the projection of the film on the garage, acting with each other.

SPEAKER_02 50:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:00

That one scene is one of my like favorite scenes. And yeah. In a lot, in I I don't know. I just really love that scene.

SPEAKER_02 51:09

It just makes you love Samara Weaving.

SPEAKER_00 51:12

It it makes me love the kid, it makes me love her, it makes me love film, it makes me love people who appreciate film, it makes me want to go in my backyard and like it just it captured so many things in one. It was smart. Yeah. It was yeah, I just loved it. And it I did, yeah. If the movie had had hit that note more, it'd be maybe an eight. Um, but you know, it's like it's like a s it's like a solid six.

SPEAKER_02 51:39

Yeah, I agree a hundred percent. Like, I think it's hard to criticize this movie because it is what it is. Yeah, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 51:45

Like they they And I don't think it's trying to be anything that exactly else, you know.

SPEAKER_02 51:49

This was it the result that we got was the ambition of the project. Like, I don't think anyone was trying to do it.

SPEAKER_00 51:56

Let's make a low budget, funny, campy horror that has a Netflix production, and we can the like the one thing though that I really don't get though is if you're gonna pay for Ken Marino and Leslie Bibb, use them. They are hilarious. Use them.

SPEAKER_02 52:12

Yeah, and the jokes they had were not that funny. Like her, she's in the basement trying to get the spiders. I'm like, is this supposed to be funny?

SPEAKER_00 52:17

Yeah, no, they were not used well at all for for how much.

SPEAKER_02 52:21

Well, do you think I'm a pussy? I'm like, what is this?

SPEAKER_00 52:24

Yeah, do you know what that means? And the idea that the kid didn't know what a pussy was.

SPEAKER_02 52:30

He did, though.

SPEAKER_00 52:31

He did? Okay. I must have been drunker than I thought last night.

SPEAKER_02 52:34

Didn't I? Uh no, maybe I misread that scene. Um yeah, I I agree. I think this is a six, you know, you get what you get out of this movie, and and I don't think you're gonna be bored. I think you'll you'll probably be entertained. Um and what I like about this movie is I think a lot like what we talked about last week, like a lot of mediocre movies get hailed as like this great movie. I think this is what it is, and you'll like it if you like horror content.

SPEAKER_00 53:00

And that's the that's the thing. I don't think anybody's gonna watch this and be like, I fucking hated that movie.

SPEAKER_02 53:05

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 53:06

It's not a great movie, but I think you watch it and you're like, yeah, I liked it.

SPEAKER_02 53:11

Yeah. Maybe you forget about it in a week.

SPEAKER_00 53:14

But it yeah, but it's not like something where like it's not polarizing, like it's a it's an enjoyable film.

SPEAKER_02 53:21

Yeah, I agree. And Tomorrow Weaving's great, the kid's great.

SPEAKER_00 53:26

Yeah, I feel like it was just her start uh stepping into her ready or not role.

SPEAKER_01 53:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 53:36

Also, I did catch that she goat belted in this, so it was not um it was not symbolic in Ready or Not.

SPEAKER_02 53:47

She just That's too bad. Because I love that thing.

SPEAKER_00 53:49

She just belts.

SPEAKER_02 53:51

She just sounds like a goat. Yeah. And she is the goat.

SPEAKER_00 53:54

She is when it comes to horror screams, man. She's she's the goat for me.

SPEAKER_02 53:58

They didn't show her die though, did they?

SPEAKER_00 54:00

No, and apparently I missed this, but apparently after the credits, there's like a scene of her.

SPEAKER_02 54:06

You know, I was like fast-forwarding to see if there was like a mid-credit scene, and I and I guess I didn't go far enough because I was like, oh, there isn't one, and I just turned it off.

SPEAKER_00 54:12

Yep, apparently there is. But I didn't see it, I've never seen it.

SPEAKER_02 54:17

All right, yeah, that's it. Well, maybe this will continue into the the sequel talk.

SPEAKER_00 54:22

Maybe it will, maybe we won't. We'll we'll we'll see what we come up with when we scrap this shit together. Because listen, kids, you're not gonna hear this, but we had a couple of long distracting conversations. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 54:38

All right. Well, thanks everybody for I guess you should sign off. You're the you're the host of this one.

SPEAKER_00 54:43

Thanks for listening. Um, we had fun. It was fun.

SPEAKER_02 54:47

We have fun, yeah. And so I had fun, and I had fun watching it.

SPEAKER_00 54:51

I hope you had fun too. Until next time. Peace out.

SPEAKER_02 54:56

That was so meditative. Outro. Very soothed. Okay, later. Dope. Bye.