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In this unfiltered episode of More Than 2 Min, Keisha Nixon shares her journey from surviving domestic abuse and a wrongful criminal case to becoming a voice for community advocacy, justice reform, and political accountability.

After being arrested and indicted following an act of self-defense, Keisha’s experience exposed the deeper realities of the criminal justice system, including systemic bias, political influence, and gaps in accountability. Instead of staying silent, she turned her survival into purpose—advocating for individuals and families still navigating injustice.

In this episode, we explore:
● The truth about the criminal justice system and wrongful prosecution
● The importance of police accountability and reform
● How local politics directly impacts communities
● Ongoing concerns around school safety and child protection
● The root causes of voter apathy in marginalized communities

This episode highlights the power of resilience, advocacy, and using your voice to create change.

If you’re passionate about justice, community leadership, and real conversations that drive impact, then sit back, grab some tea, because this episode is for you.

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SPEAKER_01

Thank you for tuning in to more than two minutes. I'm your humbled host, Will E. On today's episode, we're diving into a conversation that's real, not discussed enough, and impossible to ignore. It's the system of injustice. Because when people hear that phrase, they think courtroom, they think isolated moments. But the truth is, it's bigger than that. It's layered, it's embedded, it's socially engineered into our communities. And for many people, it shapes their reality long before they ever encounter a judge, a policy, or even a headline. This isn't about theory today. This is about lived experience. It's about how systems impact real people, real families, and entire communities. And the question we don't ask enough, is it broken? Or is the system working exactly how it was designed? Today we're going beyond the surface with our guests. We're talking about who's impacted, who it benefits, and what accountability really looks like. So sit back, relax, grab your tea, and enjoy a conversation with Keisha Nixon. Keisha Nixon, thank you for joining me on more than two minutes. I really appreciate you jumping on.

SPEAKER_00

I'm glad to be here.

SPEAKER_01

All right.

SPEAKER_00

I'm glad to be here. Thank you for having me.

SPEAKER_01

Well, you know, uh in the intro, I was talking about how uh injustice is layered. And um, it really starts before you even get into the court system, the legal system, stop by police, and all these other things, you know. And I know that you have a powerful story uh because at some point you left a path and you found your journey, and your your voice has been growing and growing and growing. Um, and and some of that touches on uh righting wrongs, uh looking at systems that have traditionally been unjust uh to certain communities. So I definitely want to talk about that, get into your background. But before we start, uh I always like to ask, what season are you in?

SPEAKER_00

What season am I in? Uh I believe I am in the season of fruition. Uh I believe that the seeds have been sown with all of my experiences, uh just a story that my narrative tells. And I'm at the point in my life that I believe that the advocacy and that the activism journey that I have been on is about to manifest itself into justice, okay, into results.

SPEAKER_01

So a season of manifestation in a sense. Yes. I like that. Fruition and manifestation. All right, and and so with that, you know, we all start somewhere. You know, every journey has a beginning.

SPEAKER_00

That's true.

SPEAKER_01

Um, I'm from Oak Cliff, Texas.

SPEAKER_00

Oakland.

SPEAKER_01

Went to uh Hillcrest High School, have a background in in music, um, creative arts, all those different types of things. Where were you born?

SPEAKER_00

I was born in a northern town. Uh, we were about 20 miles from Lauden, Oklahoma, called Wichita Falls, Texas. Oh, really? Yes, it's a military town, um, separate Air Force Base is there, and that's the largest um Air Force training center in the United States.

SPEAKER_01

Hottering Hale is there. Hotter in Hell 100. Were you ever there? Did you see that? Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_00

Probably passed out right in front of you. You probably did. So that's where I'm from. That's where my story begins. I was actually born at Wichita Falls General Hospital.

SPEAKER_01

General Hospital in Wichita, Wichita Falls, just another TV show. Not just as a TV show. And how long were you in Wichita Falls before you came to Dallas?

SPEAKER_00

Uh, I actually grew up between Wichita Falls and Thomasville, Georgia, uh, which is a uh town in Dixie, Georgia, um, maybe 20 minutes from Tallahassee, Florida. Um, I would spend one year in Texas with my grandparents, and I would go stay with my mother in um Thomasville, Georgia.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

And I did this until high school graduation. I moved to Los Angeles, California for about four years. LA? LA.

SPEAKER_01

Did you take your cowboy head to LA?

SPEAKER_00

No, I did not take my cowboy head to LA.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

But uh I've been in Dallas now probably since 1998.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, 998. Imagine this going back to California. How'd you like living in LA compared to Oklahoma and and uh Wichita Falls?

SPEAKER_00

Well, it was definitely a culture shop. Yeah, because I had never really been to the city.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

So I was an 18-year-old girl straight out of high school, and I'm in Los Angeles, California. Right. And then I was very appreciative of my upbringing because I could have fallen into pitfalls and into different, you know, things that I shouldn't have in California. But uh it was very uh eye-opening as far as uh being exposed to different cultures, being exposed to different people. And um I enjoyed it.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

However, and you know, when when you're out there, they say that everyone that's not from California. Oh, you're from Back East, you're from Back East.

SPEAKER_03

Right.

SPEAKER_00

And I made a lot of friends, I met a lot of um celebrities at the beginning of their career. Um, well, not a lot, but I'm not a groupy type of person where I'm impressed, you know, just because you have a show on TV or you have a song on the radio. Right. Because it's not always as it seems, you know.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_00

Right. And um I'm just appreciative of the the journey and what I've been exposed to.

SPEAKER_02

Right, right.

SPEAKER_00

And I think that my story has prepared me for, you know, what I've experienced in life. So I really enjoyed California.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, that's cool. So coming back to to Dallas and uh how'd you end up in DeSoto?

SPEAKER_00

I ended up in DeSoto. I purchased my original home in Lancaster, Texas. Okay. And I wasn't very happy with the school system there. So um we enrolled in DeSoto ISD because at the time they had open enrollment, only to get into DeSoto ISD and find out that their uh culture of learning and the children's behavior here wasn't too much different than what we were experiencing in Lancaster. Wow.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So I purchased uh a home here um in I think 2016, 2017. That's how I ended up in DeSoto. Okay. Also, um at the time, this city was being pitched as the Black Mecca, a black utopia of professionals.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, baby ATL, that's what I heard a lot.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's what they were putting out there for a while.

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_00

However, you know, uh that fairy tale.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I don't want to sound too harsh, has turned into a nightmare.

SPEAKER_01

Right, right, right, right. Um we'll get into that, we'll get into the nightmare because you know it is nightmarish. Um, and uh I remember last year I ran for city council, and and uh I I really appreciate your support. Uh you helped galvanize the uh the campaign, get the get my name out there and uh and drum up support. Um and I know that in my early years I never really thought about being a public figure, you know, in terms of politics.

SPEAKER_04

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

Uh, you know, I'm I say unfortunate, but I guess it was fortunate. I did a lot of music stuff. Um, and um, and so because of that, I was thrown out there and had to become a public figure and tried to hide from it and everything. But as you were growing up, did you envision that one day that you would basically be the voice of a of a of a you know of the people, voice of a movement, voice of a crisis? Uh, because you know, I want you to tell your story. Uh, and uh and and and I appreciate the story because it really resonates and it hits very, very, very deeply. And so I know that uh you've experienced a lot of things in life. Um relationships have not always been easy, uh, friendships have not always been easy. Um being a uh I don't want to say a country girl, okay, but you got your cowboy boots and your cowboy head on. Okay. I represent okay, okay. So you got a little bit as a sea girl in you, right? Um, and so having having all of those different things, you know, and then I want to pull everything together and wrap it up in a nice, nice package for our listeners because you know more than two minutes. We've been fortunate enough to to reach the east coast, the west coast, mid, uh uh Midwest, uh the UK. So there are a lot of people listening, and uh, I know that you're currently running for city council.

SPEAKER_00

I am.

SPEAKER_01

Um, and so someone who may not hear it that lives here may live somewhere else that knows someone that lives here. Okay. So let's let's unwrap Keisha Nixon. Who are you?

SPEAKER_00

Who am I?

SPEAKER_01

Who are you?

SPEAKER_00

I'm that same little girl from Wichita Falls in Thomasville, Georgia, with the little nappy pigtails that love cursoda and hot chips. And now I'm a 53-year-old grandmother, wife, okay, daughter, advocate, realtor. All around, you know, back in the day we used to say fly girl.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, all right, I like that.

SPEAKER_00

So I'm fly girl number one.

SPEAKER_01

All right, all right.

SPEAKER_00

That has manifested into Nana circa 2026.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's talk about some of your experiences uh since you've been here in in in DeSoto, because I know that uh you have uh been a voice uh against police brutality, you've been a voice um against uh injustice when it comes to uh the criminal justice system.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

Um you believe that uh everyone should have an opportunity to live their life without being harassed.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

So how did you get to you know those thoughts? How did you get to those points in in your journey?

SPEAKER_00

Okay, well, I can sit here with courage and conviction and say that I'm a survivor of domestic abuse. And there was an incident back in uh 2019 that resulted in me being charged with um aggravated assault uh during an incident where I defended myself uh with my husband. So uh I was arrested, I was indicted, and there is an an attempt at prosecution. But however, um that was political because there was enough information and evidence in the very beginning where I shouldn't have even been arrested or indicted. There was actually video that caught the entire incident. But again, in true cashier fashion, prior to that, uh there was um basically I was suing a state district judge for slander. And we were at a Monday night politics event, uh, which is an occasion during the election cycle when a lot of the politicals in public go to the African American Museum here, and it's a political debate. So there was a judge, I'll call her name, this is all documented, uh Judge Janine Howard, that actually called my name in the audience and identified me. And she stated that, you know, this is Keisha Nixon, and I had to send her boyfriend, I think, uh, to jail. She said boyfriend and not husband. And so the crowd was like horrified that she would call a private citizen out like that and, you know, speak about her case. And this particular judge already um was controversial due to her um prosecuting a young black boy that had um raped another student at uh one of the schools here in Dallas. And she did not um take the case very seriously as far as the um criminal, the punitive um charges or sentence that she uh imposed on him.

SPEAKER_01

Right. Okay. So as you as you were moving through that case, okay, and you got an up close uh view or experience with the uh with with the justice system, what really stood out to you about what's broken?

SPEAKER_00

Well, what stood out to me about what's broken is that um it seemed to all be political, very political in nature. It's not about right and wrong at all. It's about who knows who, who owes who a favor. And it's uh I think the word is quid pro quo. You scratch my back, I scratch yours.

SPEAKER_03

Right.

SPEAKER_00

So it's not about whether you're guilty or innocent, it's not about right or wrong, it's about what criminal attorney you and your family can afford to retain and what jo judge's courtroom you end up in. Right. That's justice in Dallas. Right.

SPEAKER_01

So when in um it's it's probably in other counties, uh, Collin County, Tarran County, counties in LA, counties in in New York. Uh but I think the one thing that kind of stands out for me is when these types of things happen in minority communities, you know, communities that have a very strong, strong public face of blackness. Yes. When when when the city council is primarily black or when the uh the majority of the demographic is is majority black, and and how those things, how they can drive this, this it's it's almost like this vacuum of of where we're constantly re-victimizing ourselves in a sense. Yes. So what exactly do you think is driving that? Because, you know, when we talk about politics, okay, well, there's one thing we can do with politics or politicians. We we can vote them in and we can vote them out. So if a community is seeing that something's not working, what's to keep them from simply saying, okay, well, we're gonna vote this person out?

SPEAKER_00

Well, I I think that something that is specific to our community is there are a lot of African Americans that are part of the political machine. And those African Americans are actually elected officials themselves. They're senior politicians, they're people that are heading a lot of the organizations and groups that our people go to for help. You know, I won't call them by name, like the um ABC groups. And they don't have our best interests at heart.

SPEAKER_03

Right, right.

SPEAKER_00

They they truly don't. So um I believe that this culture has been uh able to continue and thrive and flourish because we have so much faith in the uh NAACP. We have so much faith in our county commissioner or our state senator or state rep, these city council members that look like us and they really don't have our best interest at heart. Some some people feel as if they're gatekeepers.

SPEAKER_02

Wow, okay.

SPEAKER_00

They're gatekeepers. They don't want to solve the problems.

SPEAKER_02

Right.

SPEAKER_00

They actually want whatever uh issues and concerns that we're dealing with to be contained to our community. So uh that's my appeal on that.

SPEAKER_01

So from your perspective, what systems should protect women? What systems should protect children? Because, you know, that's another aspect of some of the things that you've spoken about, protecting children. You know, so we need to protect women, we need to protect children. So, what can the system do, or what is it about the system that's failing those two groups?

SPEAKER_00

Well, um, let me reference all of the sexual abuse cases that uh our community experienced last year with the Central ISD.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Uh there was a particular case at Ruby Young Elementary where a student, yes, the the elementary school was sodomized by a substitute teacher.

SPEAKER_01

Wow, elementary?

SPEAKER_00

Yes, and uh this actually was brought to the authorities' attention in November. Okay. And in March of 2025, he was arrested. But it was reported to the police.

SPEAKER_01

Right, prior to that.

SPEAKER_00

Prior to that.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

And um we discovered that although he was arrested by the local authorities, he was arrested by the the Soto Police. There's it doesn't look as if it was referred to the district attorney's office.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, okay. So so do you think that that was the system covering up for mistakes or covering up for intentional bad actors or bad behavior?

SPEAKER_00

I believe uh that in concert with some other uh cases that I know of, there was also a grandmother out of Mesquite. Uh, her name is Dee Smith. And she had some similar issues with a relative of hers being abused in DeSoto when he was visiting his mother. And that case just went under the radar, also. So where it was reported, it was referred to the DeSoto police by Children's House Pareland, by the Mesquite Police, by CPS, by the teachers here actually in uh DeSoto. And it was not prosecuted.

SPEAKER_01

So why do you think that beyond politics? I mean, do you think because I know that sometimes these institutions, the red tape and the lack of training, burnout, all these different things happen. And it seems as though when those things happen, the burnout, the lack of of training, so on and so forth, that that's when things begin to fall through the gaps. That's when abuse it seems to spark up. Because in actually in Dallas County, it seems as though every week, every other week, you see some adult at a school with the responsibility of educating our youth, all of a sudden they're being investigated for harming or sexually assaulting or some type of sexual action toward these kids. So why do you think that that we're seeing that so much more in schools nowadays?

SPEAKER_00

Well, I believe that it's not that um we're seeing it more. I think that more punitive measures have been put in place by state legislators to where when it's underreported, it's not reported, that there are heavy penalties that can be placed on teachers, observers, or people that know of it that aren't reporting it.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And I don't think that this is anything that hasn't been occurring all along. I think that people are starting to cover themselves and they're reporting it so that they don't get caught up in the prosecution when it's exposed.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Do you think that we see it more in certain communities instead of other communities? Like communities that look like us, sound like us, you and I. Uh, do you think that we're seeing it more in those communities, less in our communities, or or what what what's your your thoughts on that?

SPEAKER_00

Well, I think that we're seeing it more. But oddly, the dynamic that I'm also seeing is that when it's reported, is that when uh citizens report that these things are occurring, is the pushback that you get from community members and from uh other educators that it's actually being exposed.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

My experience has been uh this past year, that uh when I was talking about it, that I got a lot of flack from uh other educators, other uh, you know, people that are affiliated with the schools, they did not appreciate um the exposure. Really? And one of the things that they would say, oh, you're talking about disorder, but it happens in other communities. Well, I don't live in these other communities, so I'm only concerned about what's going on in the schools that my tax dollars pay for and where my grandchildren may possibly be enrolled.

SPEAKER_04

Right.

SPEAKER_00

And I was just shocked by that because you would think of all of the perils and ills of the world is that the sexual abuse and harm of children is something that would be universal. Right. For people to galvanize and be upset and horrified about.

SPEAKER_01

Right, right. So since the community is is sometimes um preoccupied, you know, I give us the benefit of the doubt. We're preoccupied with something. We're all it seems like we're always preoccupied with something. And so that when these uh cases happen or when someone starts sounding the alarm, we ignore it. What's the role of leaders in the community? And leaders, and I use the word leader and leadership very I'm I'm not attached to it. Sparingly. Yeah, yeah. And for the simple reason is that I believe people who are elected officials, they represent a community. They represent the voice of the community.

SPEAKER_00

Right. Not leadership.

SPEAKER_01

Instead of a leader, okay. So a leader, I think, is if you are in the military and an order comes down, and the order keeps going down, going down until it finally gets to uh its designated place, and then they go out and they don't have a choice because the leadership has lined out and outlined exactly what they want to happen. Leaders in a community, quote unquote, okay, or representatives in the community. What's their role when it comes to making sure that the school district is healthy, making sure the city hall is healthy, making sure that our churches are places that we meet for worship are healthy. What's the role of representatives in the community?

SPEAKER_00

Well, I believe that their role is to uh enforce the policies and mandates that are already in place to ensure safety, to ensure that uh funds are allocated equitably in our community, that the blueprint is there. But unfortunately, they've strayed so far away from the blueprint that our city of DeSoto, the school district of DeSoto, has just went to the dogs. Yeah. That they have strayed away from what they're supposed to do.

SPEAKER_01

So when it comes to the school district, do you think that, and I don't know, so I'm asking this question to become educated myself, but do you think that sometimes the economics, the social economic situation in a community, as it changes, and then the residency changes, people go from home ownership to being home renters? You have uh now NIL deals where schools can attract kids to their high schools or even sometimes middle school.

SPEAKER_02

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

So do you think that the changing dynamics in the community, in the neighborhoods, that ultimately that's the reason that some of the uh the schools or the school district as a whole has gone down?

SPEAKER_00

Uh I do believe that to be true. I think that when the SETO ISD opened uh the district up to open enrollment, that you know you attract elements into the community that may not be conducive to a positive environment for kids in their learning. Um I believe that it attracted a lot of um uh children, students that have probably been expelled or suspended from their home districts that came to DeSoto. Uh DeSoto, amongst anything, is known for its sports programs, track and football. And um that can attract um, you know, families to want to come into DeSoto to enroll their children to become involved in those programs. Right, right. But then, you know, as far as academics, yeah, uh I believe that there is not enough emphasis placed on that by the district.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. And and and I've seen this uh happen in our community and and happening in it happens in neighboring communities and everything, where it seems as though sports becomes the lifeline of that community. We kind of start to to look away a little bit from the academics. We we we give more uh attention to or we celebrate uh sports when uh you know when a team wins a championship or something like that. So you've been in DeSoto long enough to to see it go up and down, up and down the community. And right now I know that there's uh an imbalance in the community where there is um infrastructure projects are taking place in in certain parts of the city, uh where other parts of the city seems to be neglected. Um you have uh situations where there are some uh streets or better yet, some communities uh where they have strong neighborhood ties and then others uh because you have people going in and out, in and out, in families.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, transient families.

SPEAKER_01

Right. So you you've been in real estate, and earlier we were talking about the uh the housing collapse, you know, in 2000, was it 2007, 2008?

SPEAKER_00

2008, really, 2007, 2008.

SPEAKER_01

All right. And uh my personal view is when that when we had the housing collapse that it really impacted a community like the soda because everybody was kind of living on this dream, right? Right. Okay, so as you have worked as uh uh worked in real estate, what changing dynamics have you seen in the different communities?

SPEAKER_00

Well, um there seems to be an influx of renters that maybe that first wave of uh homeowners that fell victim to the APRs that ballooned to the point where they couldn't make their payments. And uh back then, uh up until they put the moratorium in, I think that Hillary Clinton was the Secretary of State then, and she uh put the moratorium on the foreclosures that the uh African American populace suffered the most with that first wave of foreclosures. So uh there was there was um corporate America started coming in buying up a lot of the homes.

SPEAKER_02

Right, right.

SPEAKER_00

And I believe that the just the dynamic of uh leasing and being a renter, not that there's anything wrong with that, but a lot of times people can uh move into a house knowing that they're going to move on, or they really don't uh put ties and roots into that community. Right. Because they know that it's it's temporary, maybe they're uh moving for their children to graduate from the school and then they plan to uh move to another area. Uh renting versus homeownership can give you a different type of culture in a city, yeah, in a town.

SPEAKER_01

And and and and you're right. And I don't necessarily believe that the you know, I don't look at it as a negative because everyone has to start someplace to get somewhere. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00

Uh they all did.

SPEAKER_01

And but but I do think that there's some legitimacy in terms of if it's someone who stays in a home or stays in a community community for only two years versus someone who's been there for 20 years. You know, home ownership versus renting and the stability of the of the community. I think that it gives way to that. It does. But I want to pivot, horror pivot real quick. The keisha that we have today, today's Sunday, right? Sunday. Sunday. What would this keisha say to the keisha who was 22, 23?

SPEAKER_00

I would probably reach out and give her a big bear hug and a pat on the back for being so resilient. Yeah. Um, I would warn her that she had a rocky road coming. Uh, I would tell her to keep her head up, which I have done. Yeah. You know, my uh back never bent, my head never bowed, regardless of any of the uh adversity that I've experienced.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

You know, even campaigning, it takes um courage and conviction. I say that a lot to face um and speak with people who think that they know your business when they Google you or they believe the narrative that the establishment has put out there about you. Right, right. And uh it can get a little trying at times, but I'm a soldier.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, so I am a soldier. What does it take to move through adversity?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, with me, you know, I'm not beating down the doors of the church house on Sundays. I didn't go to church this morning, but I do have a very strong relationship with a higher entity with God. And uh I do have faith. Um I know that uh I have experienced a lot, and I haven't done that on my own as far as who I know or who I am, that it's only God's grace and mercy that has gotten me through. And uh I am convinced that he didn't bring me this far to leave me. So I deal with it first of all by holding on to my faith in God.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. So do you think that same approach can work for a community? And the reason I ask that is again, you're running for for city council and a city just like individual goes through ups, downs, highs, lows, adversity.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

And faith, I know that I lean on my faith a lot, uh, and I believe that grace is our only true or only real blessing, right? So when you are uh talking to members in the community and they're saying, you know, Keisha, what what is it gonna take? I mean, you can get in there, you can you can get in there, but you're one person. So what what will it take to turn whatever you're saying is wrong or whatever you're saying is upside down, what will it take to sit it right side up or make it better?

SPEAKER_00

Well, first of all, it's gonna take truth. Truth.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

There's a lot of gas lighting that's going on in the community. Uh, there's a lot of uh deception as far as things and initiatives that are being put in place that really aren't being revealed to the public and the the taxpayers.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

And I think the first thing that um we need to do is to get out of this us versus them mentality that we have.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

And treat this like politics instead of popularity.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

We really have to take our emotion emotions out of it. I don't like this person, I don't like that person, I've heard this about him, I've heard this about her. And we really need to start taking a hard look at the facts, the numbers, the statistics.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

What has been occurring the past few years in Town Hall? Who are the key players? Yeah. And I think that we should go from there as far as making an assessment of where we need to go.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. Well, that brings me to voter apathy. And one thing that I'm I'm really big on is talking to people about the importance of voting. You know, voting locally, voting nationally. But voter apathy seems to be something that looks different in our community. It seems to me, it seems more severe, it seems more significant. So when you're talking to someone and you're encouraging them to get out to vote and explaining the importance of voting and what that one vote can do. Because in a city election, one vote can make a difference. That can make a difference. So when you're out there and you're saying every vote counts, in reality, every vote does, it really does count. It does. But let's talk about voter apathy, not simply on a local level, because I think it's driven on a national level or it's driven countrywide because it continues to hit our community so hard. So, what are your thoughts about what's driving voter apathy? Why are people so so turned off to go vote?

SPEAKER_00

Well, one thing that I really hate to hear people say, like when uh I asked them if they're registered to vote. Well, I don't vote. I'm not into politics. I'm like, well, if you're not into politics, politics is definitely into you. Right, right, right. And I think the one thing with the uh that the current administration hopefully has been instrumental in pushing people out to vote. I know that earlier in the year, the um effects of Project 2025, one of those was uh when a lot of the benefits were cut earlier in the year where people weren't able to get their SNAP benefits. I think maybe it was Social Security or something that was delayed.

SPEAKER_03

Right.

SPEAKER_00

So people that are kind of um turned off by voting and politics, they could make that real-world daily correlation between who's in office, whether I voted for them, and how it affects my everyday life. And they see the importance of getting out to vote and casting their vote.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. And that's important. That's very, very important. I think if there was a way that people could understand issues a little easier, um, you know, maybe that would help. Uh if it was a situation where, you know, maybe in the future, AI, you know, someone would be able to, hey, okay, tell me why I need to vote for Keisha Mixon, you know. And then it it just blurts out, well, she is da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Um, I want to go back to kids real quick. Um, because I know that when we were talking about that, you you brought up there were uh some parents who are dealing with um their children being abused uh in the school in the school system.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

And I know that a lot of times, uh, like with me, I go out, people see the presentation of whatever I am that day and wherever I am, you know. So if it's if it's city hall or if it's at uh greenhouse or if it's you know at the park, whatever the case may be, you know, they're seeing that version of me in that environment. People see a version of you in environments and in different spaces, but they don't get a chance to see when you sit down with a mother who is attempting to navigate her child being abused, they don't necessarily see you sit down with uh a domestic uh abuse uh uh survivor and telling that person that it's okay to share your story. I want to talk about that version of Keisha Nixon, the the person who is uh who is full of empathy, who's full of compassion, who has an emotional awareness that not you don't necessarily share it to a lot of people. I mean, you're four foot two.

SPEAKER_00

So I'm a little taller than that. I'm five foot two. Give me my foot back.

SPEAKER_01

So when you come out, you know, it's it's like you got the gloves on, and you know, you bouncing, you bouncing, because you you never know when you might have to slide uh a right hook off of something. So but no, I was seriously, I want I want to talk about the compassionate side because people don't, you know, and correct me if I'm wrong, you could be out there showing it in the streets uh uh every single day.

SPEAKER_00

People know me, know me.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, okay. So the person who doesn't know you, all right, what is it about that that compassionate side that you feel as though would be good for the city?

SPEAKER_00

Well, first of all, I have been there. So I have empathy for what people are experiencing. You know, I remember when I worked as a uh social worker with the state of Texas, you know, I approved uh food stamps, tannin, and Medicaid. And a lot of times I would see my colleagues come in and just talk to applicants crazy, you know, just treat them really bad. And then I would um sometimes tell them, I'm like, well, if they're coming in here applying for benefits, they're already, you know, in a bad space. You know, you never know what a person is going through.

SPEAKER_03

Right.

SPEAKER_00

And I remember one of our trainings was, you know, you never know, you know, if you're sitting on the other side of the table applying for benefits yourself. And as little money as we made as case workers, you know, half of us was on it anyway. So um being a single parent, being a domestic abuse uh survivor, um, just being a black female existing in America. Um, I have a son that had uh has a chronic medical issue. He has end-stage renal disease. Um just advocating for him to get his kidney to make sure that he gets the right uh renal medical care was a fight. You know, he got sick when he was like 13 years old. Oh wow. And uh he was at children's hospital, and I noticed that most of the children that were in the dialysis center were children of color. Either they were they were black and Hispanic. You know, that for some reason um renal disease affects us more than it affects other populations. So the fight that I had as far as making sure that he got the proper care, uh, putting him on the uh kidney transplant list, you know, there were other families that had been there for years.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

And uh dialysis is very profitable for hospitals and for the pharmaceutical industry. And every now and then I would see a person that um was not a minority come through and maybe they would dial for a couple of months and then they'd be gone. And then, you know, you would hear some nurses discussing all, I would ask, Well, what happened to little Timmy?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, he got his kidney. Yeah, you know, so I know it uh doesn't sound fair, and it was not fair, but he would get a kidney faster than the patients that have been there for years.

SPEAKER_02

Right, right, right.

SPEAKER_00

So dealing with that and um everything else that I've gone through in life, it gives me a lot of empathy for what people may be going through and what they're experiencing.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And I know better as far as um, I'm not going to say that I'm distrustful of the establishments and the system, but I know what it is and what it does and what it can do and what it can be.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So uh I know that myself and some other citizens, you know, what we have been experiencing in the Soto, at first, you know, we were being um marginalized and dismissed, and oh, they're lying, and that's not true. And they would say, Well, it's only a few of them, and they're just disgruntled. You know, I'm a grown woman. I have better things to do with my time and my resources than to say that the sky is blue and it's not.

SPEAKER_02

Right, right, right.

SPEAKER_00

So when uh things started happening on a larger scale, and more people started speaking out because they saw us speaking out, you know, it's like a little crack in a dam, and after a while that string turns into a rush of raging water. Right, right, right. So now there's a collective of citizens that are voicing, you know, what they have experienced, what they're not happy with. And um I believe that my sensitivity to knowing that these things can go on, you know, um, that a person may be going through adversity, that a person can be targeted, that a person can be bullied by the system, right, by the police, right, that that gives me a different perspective.

SPEAKER_02

Right, right, right.

SPEAKER_00

And appreciation to constituents and citizens and what they may be going through.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because the advocacy is for those who are truly marginalized. It's the the advocacy is for the individual who Maybe it's their first time in the system, or maybe it's their first time even being uh approached by the system, and they don't necessarily have the resources, experience, or funds to navigate their process. It could be as simple as someone doesn't know the necessary uh steps to file a complaint either with the city or with the Soto ISD or any ISD. And so we have to have those people who stand in the gap to basically say, you know what, I'm going to be your bridge in this moment. Correct. And that's how I see you. And you know, and I appreciate a lot of the things that you do in the community from for the simple fact that you give voice to those who are voiceless or they feel voiceless. And um, it's not so much that I don't think that people really I don't necessarily know if it's a if it's an understanding type of thing or if it's simply a situation where they need to just kind of listen just a little bit more to some of the things that you're saying in the way that you're saying them. So I have a question about the system. What does work with the system?

SPEAKER_00

Well, what does work, I believe that what does work is when it's done fairly. Uh, one thing that I really want to bring home is that when I was arrested, and I don't have any any qualms with that. I know that uh I am blessed to be in a position to sit here, look at you, and speak to you, and so many women that look like me, they go through abuse, they were killed. They're not here anymore. They're in their graves or they're in prison for defending themselves against their abusers. So I have no qualms about speaking about that at all. So it works when it's fair.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

And fortunately, I was in a position to uh retain excellent counsel.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And uh they tried, they tried so hard to bury me, to prosecute me, and that was all political political because prior to the uh incident, I was suing Judge Janine Howard that I referenced earlier, in a uh slander case. So um he provided excellent counsel. Um my attorney, uh his name is Russell Wilson, and he's a fire um civil and criminal attorney, and he was my defense lawyer. And I was fortunate to be acquitted, or they just they dropped the case. Oh, what? It happened prior to COVID. Okay. So for two years, you know, I had never been in trouble. And um I was terrified of what was going to happen to me. My son started getting sick again, and I'm like, oh, am I gonna be here for my son? I mean, I I was just traumatized by what was going on. And also, it was a political hit because um the police department, they were not honest about what occurred. Um, I would get empathy from the public because they would tell me they said, you know, well, I saw the video prior to what happened, and I don't know why you even got indicted, Keisha. Right. Or why this is happening to you. But uh COVID hit and the case was delayed, you know, you couldn't go to court. And so I dealt with the anxiety of not knowing what was gonna go on with my life.

SPEAKER_02

Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Whether I was going to actually be railroaded, like they were railroading me, and they were gonna be successful in what they were doing, and I was gonna actually end up in jail. Right. Or I I mean, I just I was just out there, but then I still had to to live. So I dealt with that for two years. Wow. Two years of being under indictment. And uh, like I said, it was all political because at the same time, any complaint that I brought forward to the um any state agency against the police, the first thing that they would say, oh, she's under indictment. Oh, she's being charged with attempting to kill her husband, and that wasn't even the charge, but it sounds a lot worse than what I was actually charged for. So that's what they said.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow, that's insane.

SPEAKER_00

It is insane. Two years? Uh yes, two years I had to deal with that.

SPEAKER_01

You know, I had this saying where I say, you know, burn the boats so we can build bridges. And it's basically all it is is stop focusing on on our past and give yourself agency to move forward. And we have to connect the different portions of our journey. Okay. So with you, and and we can never leave our past, you know. It's it's it's just a matter of is if I have something to look back to, if I'm if I can look back at those boats and say, wow, okay, it can take me back to Oak Cliff or it can take me back to AL. It takes me away from whatever this moment I'm feeling right now, opposed to saying, let me find a way to bridge my connection to Keisha so that we can build something bigger, so we can have a collective conversation, and that collective conversation leads to shared sacrifice. Okay. But that comes with sacrifice, advocacy comes with sacrifice, caring, being compassionate, emotional intelligence, all of those things come with sacrifice. So for me, sacrifice impacts my mental health. And I have to be very intentional in terms of how I take care of my mental wellness, you know. So, with you, your experience, all the things that's come on to you, um, navigating, being a shoulder that people cry on, okay? You're still a parent, still a wife, still a business owner, still doing all these different things. Now you're running for city council. How do you protect your mental health?

SPEAKER_00

Uh I have different diversions. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Um like tea. No. Like tea.

SPEAKER_00

Um, believe it or not, I'm an avid gardener.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. I can believe that coming from Wichita.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Country. Country. So I like um seeing what a seed that I planted, you know, can grow into. And it's therapeutic to uh be out in the garden with my roses and my petunias.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

And it's an escape.

SPEAKER_01

Um you gotta have patience to be a gardener.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

At least that's what they tell me.

SPEAKER_00

You do.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

You have to have patience.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um I do a lot of retail therapy.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

I try to vacation um every now and then. Yeah. You know, to go smell some air that smells different from DeSoto in Texas. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

See other people and kind of escape reality for a little bit.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Get some rest and relaxation to come back.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Are you are you one of those folks who um you're a socialite, but you really like being at home by yourself? Or are you one of those folks you sit at home and you think about different, you know, events or different things you can do to get out the house?

SPEAKER_00

I'm really a nerd. Let me just tell you right now. Okay, all right. I'm really a nerd. I was a bookworm. I was a kind of when I was a little girl, I was the one that they picked on until they figured out the Keisha could fight.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. See, that's good.

SPEAKER_00

So um, I am kind of an introvert. Okay, okay. Quiet on the outside. Yes. However, well, I think I am the best in both worlds, really, because I do.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, look at you. I can go from the streets to the suites. I don't know. No matter where I need to be, I got control of my situation.

SPEAKER_00

I got it.

SPEAKER_01

All right, okay, okay. Well, mental health is uh also about your space, your environment, uh, what you listen to, how you listen to it. Uh, and before we go into uh the culture check segment, I really want to uh take a time out for you to talk about your your candidacy, your campaign. And if there are two or three things that you really want uh the public to know, uh and just be thinking about that because once we're done with the culture check, I'm gonna come back to it. Now, hopefully there's enough people in this room that will remind me to go back to it. Because what's really important is making sure that people understand you, your platform, uh, any and everything that comes with being Keisha Nixon. Okay, okay. Um, so culture check. This or that. Now, if you were uh you said you came to Dallas in early 2000s or no, late 90s. 98, late 90s. Okay, so see 90s rap. I don't know if you were into rap in the 90s. Okay. I was. Okay. So I was discovering rap in the 80s and 90s. That's not what I was doing music with. I was doing like a lot of rock and everything. Uh rock star. There you go. And so, but there's this song, all right. You can get with this or you can get with that. You can get with this, you can get so this part of the segment is this and that, all right?

SPEAKER_00

Okay, all right. Okay, see, look at you listening for music black sheep, right? Yes, okay, come on.

SPEAKER_01

Now you just coughed me 50 cents by saying they may. No, but um, it's not good. Uh so we have this uh uh there was uh the Oscars not too long ago, all right. And so we had centers on one side, and we had one battle after another on the other side. Now, hopefully you saw at least one of these movies.

SPEAKER_00

I saw both.

SPEAKER_01

You saw both. Oh, this is gonna be good. Okay, so sinners or one battle after another.

SPEAKER_00

Uh that's a hard one. That's not a hard one. Sinners, sinners.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, okay, because of Michael B. Jordan two times. That's what Vim said anyway. She's like, it's like watching someone, you know, on the screen twice. There's another part to that joke.

SPEAKER_00

It was a beautifully shot movie. I like the cinematography.

SPEAKER_01

That's true, that's true. Best man or brown sugar?

SPEAKER_00

Brown sugar.

SPEAKER_01

Brown sugar?

SPEAKER_00

Really?

SPEAKER_01

It was a good movie. Okay. Girls trip or think like a man? Girls trip. Girls trip. All right. Girls' trips are always fun, huh?

SPEAKER_00

They are.

SPEAKER_01

That's what I've always heard. You know, I've never been invited on a girls' trip.

SPEAKER_00

I can't discuss that with you. What goes on in Vegas Place in Vegas?

SPEAKER_01

See, see, Vegas, Costa Rica, Miami. See, see, all of those different things. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Martha's venue.

SPEAKER_01

Friday versus Friday after next versus last Friday. So you have three to choose from.

SPEAKER_00

Friday. The original. The original.

SPEAKER_01

The original comment. Okay. Which leads me back to you being the original. All right. So let's talk again about Keisha Nixon, uh, the politician, or Keisha Nixon Nixon, uh, the candidate.

SPEAKER_00

Well, yes, the candidate, because I don't consider myself a politician.

SPEAKER_01

That's why I changed it.

SPEAKER_00

And this isn't anything that I aspired to really do. I think I did it out of necessity. Um, there wasn't anyone that was viable to step into this position, in my opinion. I was trying to call around and see uh who we can get to run for it. Right, right, right. So when uh no one stepped to up to the plate, I threw myself into the ring. And I'm running as a right-in candidate.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. What does that mean, running as a right-in candidate?

SPEAKER_00

Well, I turned in a complete application.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

And after three adult women thoroughly reviewed my application, a week later I received a phone call saying that my application was incomplete, and of all things, I missed my address on aforementioned application, and I was deemed ineligible to be on the ballot.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

So I believed, and I was instructed to come in and pick up my fee.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

And, you know, being the litigator that I am, I'm like, no, you guys keep that. And, you know, I'll get with you, or someone will contact you about what's going on.

SPEAKER_03

Right, right.

SPEAKER_00

So then immediately I pivoted and turned in the write-in application, and they didn't want to accept that because they were like, we can't take it because we don't know what the fee is. I'm like, and it was the day of, and they were probably banking on me to get frustrated and just not turn it in.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

But lo and behold, here I am.

SPEAKER_01

So with a write-in, do I go into a booth and I just write your name in?

SPEAKER_00

Actually, you'll type it in. Oh, okay. I think it's the third option, and uh, you would type in K-E-I-S-H-A-N-I-X-O-N, Keisha Nixon for the win. All right, look at you.

SPEAKER_01

So I was thinking more like Keisha, this ain't what you want, Nixon, but you know, you know, that for the win that works too. Um, and and and and what about your platform? Are you running on any particular thing? Are you saying that, you know, I'm going to go in and introduce, or I'm going to go in and or is it one of these things where it's like, look, y'all, y'all know, y'all know what's going on. Yeah. Okay, team, we down by seven points. We got 4.2 seconds left. Right. Okay. We're going to inbound the ball and push it to Keisha Nixon for her to set up.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. Okay. Well, um, my platform is transparency.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Because as I mentioned earlier, there are a lot of things going on that are detrimental to this city that are being done by our city representatives, our city leaders, the city manager, the council. Um, I believe that getting in the business of real estate and neglecting the business of running this city is one of the reasons uh that the city needs a course correction.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

You know, we acquired Thorn Tree Country Club under very suspicious circumstances. Uh they purchased the Community Baptist Church. So, transparency, what are you doing? You you're public servants. This is the public. It is our business. These things should not be done in secrecy. Right, right, right. Um civility and respect. Civility and respect is gone.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

They do not respect the citizens. As I mentioned, they are public servants, but they have forgotten, you know, they sit there as if they're in corporate America, not City Hall.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Not sitting on our tax dollars.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

We're treated like the enemy. They don't want us speaking at uh city council meetings. I don't believe that they really want us involved.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

The city council times have gone from 7 o'clock to 6 o'clock. Uh you would be able to speak maybe 45 to minutes uh into the meetings at the beginning of the meeting.

SPEAKER_03

Right.

SPEAKER_00

And now I believe I was told, I don't know this factually, that the mayor just unilaterally made a decision to move it to the end. So you have to be there at 6 o'clock. You have to sign up before the meeting commences, and then you have to wait till the end to speak. You know, when you're going to City Hall, you're a citizen, and this is a uh documented meeting. Yeah, it's your opportunity to speak about public issues.

SPEAKER_03

Right, right.

SPEAKER_00

So I think that it's just a travesty that people of color, you know, this is a majority, minority town.

SPEAKER_03

Right.

SPEAKER_00

And the council is all black. And I feel as if we're in Jim Crow. We're in Jim Crow. Because if you go back and you look at the uh recordings of the meetings, when they opened it up to citizens' comments and people actually go to the uh, but what do you call it? Well, that's not the diet, but to the podium to speak. There are two armed officers on each side that kind of descend down and you're level to where that podium is. This is 2026. Yeah. That's intimidation.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Uh they also have put in place the metal detectors uh in front of this uh city hall entrance where now you have to have your purse search, you have to go through the metal detectors.

SPEAKER_01

Right, right. Now, real quick on everything that you said, right? So those are things that are administrative in a sense. Okay. And so me as a voter, I might look at it and say, yeah, all right. But what else? And I know that with transparency, you talked about Thorn Tree.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

Um uh I I don't think we touched on the arc.

SPEAKER_00

Creational center.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Swimming pool and a 50-something million dollar building.

SPEAKER_01

And and it's uh you know, on the one side, it's growth for DeSoto and it gives us some place to go. On the other side, it's do we need that right now with the, you know, with everything that's that, everything else that's going on in the world. And just to touch real briefly, I mean, do you think that um that the investments, future investments that the city needs to make, do we need to be aggressive or do we need to be conservative in the way that we invest um the taxpayers' money?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, we need to be extremely conservative.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Because I believe that the uh arc was not necessary. You know, they're parts of the settle, they look a hot mess. They have potholes that just look dilapidated and neglected where the money could have been better spent. Uh, I think that um the distribution of funds as far as uh where they decide to invest and uh steer money have benefited developers more than the citizens.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And I don't believe that uh the the decisions that they're making right now are sustainable.

SPEAKER_01

Right, right. Yeah. That's a lot. That's a whole lot. And I'm I'm happy that you're out here being able to put that out in the in the space uh for a conversation to take place because we have to have a conversation about those things as well as many other things. Uh so before we jump out, where can people find you on Instagram? You have a website, Facebook, all these different things.

SPEAKER_00

Uh they can find me on my uh website at www.keisha nixon for placefor dot com. And uh I don't think that I finished. Let me just finish answering this really quick. Uh, one reason why the voters should vote for me is because I am unbought and unbossed.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

And I'm not going there for a photo shoot.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I'm not trying to get on city council to build myself or build a name. I think that my government name of Keisha Yavet Pope Nixon speaks for itself. And um, I am truly there for the citizens of DeS. I'm not trying to take anything from the city. As a matter of fact, the stipend that um is in place, I would donate that monthly to a DeSoto cause, charity, or resident in need.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, okay. Now that's different. I've I haven't heard that one, you know. That's uh that's that's that's really putting money where your mouth is.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01

Uh, because it's you're saying that it's not as though I'm coming into the space uh or into this opportunity for myself to benefit myself. Because uh you it sounds like you're truly wanting to be a representative of the people.

SPEAKER_00

I do. I really want to be a represent a representative of the people because I live here, I'm a part of this community. Yeah, I wanted to grow, I wanted to, even before it grows, let me just say this. We need to do a quick course correction. It's too divided, and a lot of that division is coming from city council. And as far as like, well, you know, people have asked me, well, do you think that you could work with them? You know, with the division.

SPEAKER_03

Right.

SPEAKER_00

You know, everybody is civil. Yeah, you know, uh if uh people need to respect one another to get a common um goal accomplished. Right, right. And that sounds good, however, there's so much discontent and discourse on city council.

SPEAKER_01

Well, it sounds like a story. Is on its way. And it's four foot two. But reimagined as five foot two. Keisha Nixon. And it's uh Keisha Nixon for DeSoto.

SPEAKER_00

Keisha Nixon for place four. The numeral four. The numeral four place four. Okay. Keisha Nixon for place four. I'm also on Facebook at DeSoto Let's Talk Politics.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

I have a membership of almost 12,000. We have some very lively discussions on there. You can come on and hear the real truth about what's going on in City Hall and DeSoto Let's Talk Politics.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. Instagram, uh Blue Sky, or Twitter, or are you all for those?

SPEAKER_00

Instagram is Keisha Ms. M Z. Keisha Nixon.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

And uh my what's the other one? Uh TikTok.

SPEAKER_02

TikTok. TikTok, okay.

SPEAKER_00

Keisha Nixon, K-E-I-S-H-A-N-I-X-O-N, the numeral one.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. Oh, wow. Okay. That's a lot. We're going to get it all going.

SPEAKER_00

And I will be live at the polls all week. Okay. Live at the polls.

SPEAKER_01

Live at the polls. Live, live, live, live, live. All right. Thank you, Keisha, for uh coming through. And jumping on more than two minutes. I think that um getting to know you on a different level is beneficial, not only for myself, but for other folks who who are saying, yes, we do need change. Uh, but uh let me let me listen to the woman herself talk about her experience, her advocacy, um, take control of her narrative and push it out there. Uh, and I'm just excited. Uh, so thank you again.

SPEAKER_00

You're welcome.

SPEAKER_01

And I thank you for checking on me, making sure that I was still upright and moving. Um, and and uh I'm happy, you know, where I am right now. Girl, we national look. We just got uh more than two minutes just got featured in the uh podcast a week newsletter. Okay, so that's a national newsletter that came out, so I'm excited about that. Uh downloads are going up, subscriptions going up, people knocking on the door. Wonderful, wonderful. See, that's a blessing.

SPEAKER_00

It is, it is that's a blessing, and it's so nice to see you and your lovely wife, Vivian. Thank you, thank you. So active in the community.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, it's cool. So with that, we out.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, peace.