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She Shed Unfiltered
Episode 15: If You Keep Telling the Story, You Won’t Heal
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In this episode of She Shed Unfiltered, Donna and Meg are joined by longtime friend Nicole for a conversation that will challenge the way you think about healing.
Years ago, Nicole said something to Donna that never left her:
“If you keep telling your story, you’ll never heal.”
At the time, it didn’t make sense. Now, it’s become a guiding truth.
Together, they unpack what it really means to let go — not as a quick fix, but as a practice. From heartbreak and divorce to parenting, identity, and midlife transitions, this conversation dives into the stories we cling to… and how they can quietly keep us stuck.
This episode explores:
Why we replay the same stories (and what it’s actually doing to us)
The difference between processing and staying stuck
How to let go without closure or answers
The power of your “village” and not doing it alone
Asking yourself: what version of me is telling this story?
If you’ve ever felt stuck in the past, searching for answers, or replaying something that still hurts… this episode will hit home. Because healing isn’t about forgetting. It’s about releasing what no longer belongs to you.
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Welcome to the podcast for perfect women or public conversations. This is what women divorced to trade. They'll be laughing, they're making fears, and made it say if they really say that shit, just real women, real stories, and the kind of honesty that usually happens after the second glass of wine. The first season of She Shed Unfiltered is about the things we learned the hard way. The lessons no one warned us about. The moments that changed us. Whether we were ready or not. I'm Donna. And I'm Meg. Welcome back to the She-Shed. Meg, I we've had so much going on this week. We have some cool, fun things coming up, but you've had like a busy week with birthdays.
SPEAKER_02Yes, so many birthdays. My mom's birthday on the 2nd, and then my daughter's birthday uh is actually coming up in a couple of days, but we had her birthday party today, so it's been full on but in a celebratory way.
SPEAKER_01So so Meg is not in the shed tonight with us because she's been so busy partying. Yeah, just crazy partying. Um so we are trying something new tonight. So uh hopefully our listeners um uh hopefully this works out for us. So yeah, so just talking about our week. Uh anything new and exciting on your end, Meg? Oh, let me think.
SPEAKER_02Well, I mean, uh just kind of more more exciting times with the uh the guy that I'm seeing. Um he's going on a business trip as of tomorrow morning early. So we're gonna have to spend the better part of next week apart, which is kind of a bummer, but uh got to see him a little bit over the weekend. And um, other than that, just uh full-on birthday party celebrations. So I'm uh honestly really looking forward to bedtime tonight. It's been a lot. Yeah, yeah, I I get that.
SPEAKER_01Uh I mean, just same old, same old stuff going on. But I did have a situation this week that really tested me and uh kind of made me realize how much I've grown um over the past year because instead of internalizing and spiraling, I actually stayed steady in who I am and uh and and really um valued my worth and and stood up for myself. It was a moment that uh I was really proud of and didn't allow that moment to shrink me. So that is um something I'm really proud of and and just an area of growth from the last this past year.
SPEAKER_02That's amazing. And and um were you able to seek resolution in in what tested you this week or is it still ongoing?
SPEAKER_01I think it's still ongoing. Yeah, yeah, but I'm but I'm comfortable with how I handled the situation.
SPEAKER_02Good. That's that's all that matters when you keep your side of the street clean. That's a good feeling.
SPEAKER_01Exactly, right? So today in the shed, uh, we have a good friend of mine, Nicole. Uh we've been we've been friends for gosh, well, I mean, we were pregnant at the same time, so we've been friends for 23, 24.
SPEAKER_0025 years.
SPEAKER_0125 years. That's amazing. Quarter century.
SPEAKER_00I know a quarter of a century.
SPEAKER_01I actually told her tonight I I fell in love with her the first time I saw her. Uh, we had just moved into uh uh brand new houses side by side, like literally, literally a new subdivision, and she was hanging out her window with a towel wrapped around her head saying hello.
SPEAKER_00We're neighbors. We were alone for so long on that street. I was just so excited to see another human being next to me.
SPEAKER_01So uh so yeah, so I'm excited to have her in the shed. Uh you know, as we as we're going through our different themes and topics of the she shed unfiltered, a a comment that Nicole made to me years ago after a relationship ended. And again, I don't know it verbatim anymore, but it stays with me. But she said to me, You need to you need to stop telling your story. And at first I was like, what the fuck does that mean? Stop like I'm telling my story and looking for validation, like somebody listen to me. But it really stuck with me throughout the 20 years. I don't even know when that was when you said that, but um it really stuck with me, and I live by it every like every day in my life, you know, and because we do kind of get stuck in that cycle of telling that. So I think what I really wanted to ask Nicole was when you said that to me, I mean, I know now, but maybe our listeners don't know. What did you mean when you said that to me?
SPEAKER_00You know, I I love that question. And I think, you know, in order to answer it, I think I it really invites me to think about what letting go means, you know, and I think it's an invitation to really explore and be open and curious to what is possible beyond what we feel like is a definitive end. And, you know, I think, you know, over the years, all of the ways I've been challenged and invited to let go, you know, when when someone says, just let it go, just stop telling your story, just let it be, you know, it can be really challenging to wrap your head around what that actually means. You know, it's not readily actionable, like we can't see how we can really do that. And I think in part what I meant was, you know, allowing like a change in the way that we're holding uh our relationship with something that what what once was and how it defines who we were. You know, it was interesting. I can't perimenopause brain here. I can't remember what you said two seconds ago, but a light bulb went up because I think, you know, it was about the vindication in that moment for you. You know, and I think it's really human for when a moment of impact happens in our life and it stops us dead in our tracks. It's sudden, often it's unwelcomed, it's unwanted, you know, and we we we try to, we get stuck because we are so terrified and rightfully so at times, afraid of what we believe. You know, we've invested things, you know, and I think at the time it was a relationship for you, you know, what you pour into something physically, emotionally, mentally, all of the time, the countless hours, days, weeks, months, years, even at times, you know, what we invest in that, and then what that what needs we were getting in that, you know, our sense of security, stability, often identity, you know, we know who we were with those circumstances. Um, and we we question ourselves, you know, did I read this right? Am I looking at this right? Is this what's really going on? What am I telling myself about this? You know, and it's just so normal and so human to want to be vindicated and assured. And I think the part of the letting go is it's like a surrender almost. Um, and not because you're giving in to something or succumbing to something from a place of weakness, but you are at that point where you realize or even become aware of there is something happening here and it's beyond my control. And I'm pouring a lot of time and energy. I kind of use the analogy of like just focusing on that one dot on the wall, you know, like who am I going to be when this ends? Who am I because this is over? What does this mean for me? I'm never gonna be able to move beyond this point. And we don't know. So I think what I meant for you in that moment was, you know, can you just drop your anchor and just pay attention to that running narrative that you're telling yourself because you're going to believe it. But can you challenge those beliefs that you're telling yourself because this has happened? Right. Yeah, there's so much more I could say. I know there's so much more.
SPEAKER_02I find that so fascinating, Nicole. That really resonates with me. And in midlife, I don't know if both of you find this, but I talk to friends who will tell kind of their same tried and true stories again and again. And it feels like in some ways they're mythologizing their lives and kind of um, you know, making past chapters of their lives larger than life, really, in the retelling. But then it gets to a point too where you think, are you so caught up in romanticizing the past or playing the victim, whatever role you happen to put yourself in, that you don't even think about, well, I'm actively writing new chapters of my life all the time. What does that look like? Instead of constantly being caught up in past patterns and past stories. So it's kind of it's really interesting to think about, you know, how do we break out of that? And and as you said, how do we let go, which is also really a really important practice that a lot of us struggle with.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, absolutely, Meg. And I love that, you know, that phrasing that you just used there, a practice, because it really is. I see it as a practice and a process, right? It's it's just not something that you can that you can just do. Like your brain and it's just not gonna let you do it, right? You know, there's there's a different level of need that comes with that, you know, and I and I think um, you know, how do we how do we do that? And I I think we we're not meant to do this alone, right? I I think it's about, well, first of all, like betting on yourself, right? Like, and I think curiosity is the ultimate ally in those situations where you know that moment of impact has happened, you're sitting in the chaos in the aftermath, and you're like, of course you're gonna want to try to make sense, of course you're going to want to romanticize the past. You keep it's about the past, right? Like we don't get stuck in the present, we don't get stuck in the future, we get stuck in the past, and of course you're gonna look behind yourself to try to make sense, especially unfortunately, if you're in a situation where a key player is not giving you answers, they're not, you know, they're not justifying, they're not sharing, you know, why this happened. And sometimes, you know, we have to let go because we and we don't have that opportunity if we lost a loved one with through a physical death or something like that. You know, we're we might not get the answers, you know. And hindsight, they say hindsight's 2020 for a reason. And so I think part of getting through those challenging times is we're absolutely not meant to do this alone. More and more, especially in this phase of my life, I know the value of what I call the village, right? And and the people, and I think you know, building your village, having space held for you, and bringing in that energy of curiosity and understanding that we have the capacity to do more than one thing at the same time. We can feel devastated, we can feel um just floored by something, and we can still open our hands and our hearts and our minds to say what is possible here, you know, what is this trying to teach me? What is this trying to show me? What do I value? What do I want? What's meaningful for me here? You know?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and I think that's beautifully said because um even you know, Donna's reason for bringing me on board and for starting this very podcast is to really recognize the women who have held us up during times of struggle, right? You know, when we have a romantic relationship fail or something really drastic, unexpected, sometimes tragic um strikes our lives, and then we need to recalibrate. It's it's you know, an emotionally turbulent time. And uh our village, as you call it, which I love, are the ones who we rely on who give us the kindness and grace and support that we need in those moments so that we are able to move forward with our lives. Such an important piece for sure.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and again, like I I love that that reference to Grace. You know, Grace is subjective, it it's defined somewhere in some dictionary. But I mean, I think for me, I think all of the times that I had to let go. And, you know, if Grace wasn't in the room, I was suffering. And for me, Grace says, I can do really difficult things through my character and knowing who I am in this moment. And again, just trusting myself and leaning on my people. You know, I was thinking about when Donna invited me um through through you on this podcast, all of the ways that I've let go in my life, you know, um, through marriage, um, through, you know, being a mom of two boys and in divorce, and they're now 19 and 22, and you know, they don't they don't live with me anymore. You know, I remember that conversation, and I always said to them, you know, if there ever comes a time when you want to plant roots in one home, no problem, you have our full support, fully believing that they were going to choose their mama. Right, you know, and it's like I get it, you know, like I said, through marriage, through parenting, health, career, community, um, physical human beings and animals that once roamed, you know, in my life. I mean, it's it really truly is an art. And I remember the anguish, I remember the fear, I remember believing that there was absolutely nothing possible beyond this point. It just felt so definitive.
SPEAKER_01But you handled yourself with so much grace. Like, I just going back to the comment, like when your oldest son decided to live with his dad, and I remember you know, you calling and had that conversation, and you were just so calm and you had so much space for your son and the grace. Like, I don't know if I could have handled it that way. I uh the same as you, I would have had that panic. And I was just I admired you for for how you handled that situation.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, thank you. It was really hard. I mean, I was devastated, you know, and I was like, who am I without being a mom taking care of someone who I love? Who am I without them under my roof? What does this mean for me? You know, and then I was like, okay, this really hurts, but I my love language is to love my people in a way that they feel free to choose themselves. And so I put myself in choice. Like I leaned on my girls in my life and my women in my village, and I was like, this sucks. This is so hard. And at the same time, I let go because I knew that that's what my son wanted and needed. And I understood that he is on his own path and journey. I don't have agency and control. And I certainly wouldn't want him to stay with me out of guilt or to fill any emotional need for me. And I have to tell you, it's been really beautiful watching that relationship evolve. And what I learned was it's solid. You know, I'm I'm his home, like I've done my job. He goes out into the world and he comes back to me when he needs his sense of home. And I feel like both of my boys trust me. And I've I've let that evolve. Like I've I had a willingness to get curious about what is possible beyond this point that feels like such a definitive end.
SPEAKER_02So, how do you feel about your relationship now? Because it sounds like that difficult decision that you made was the right decision.
SPEAKER_00It was the right decision because it allowed him to take his own steps. You know, he lived with his dad for a few years and God help us all. Now he's living with like three other guys. You know, I very rarely get across that threshold, and I'm not so sure I want to. Um but I'm proud of him, right? Like it gave him, it gave him that chance to learn a little bit more about himself outside of being literally under my wing. You know, and it always doesn't work out like that, you know, it's not always positivity and rainbows and doves, but I think just in my life, I'm just at a point where I really truly embrace more than one thing can happen at the same time. I have capacity to hold very complex thoughts, beliefs, and emotions. And I'm a commitment, like curiosity is my word for 2026. Like what is possible, and to really just challenge the narrative that I tell myself. Because oh my gosh, like when you're down and out, it just feels so real. Right? Like you just feel so like nothing, like everything you're losing. Yeah, hopeless. Hopelessness for sure. And I think too, like sometimes it's really normal and human when we can't control the outcome. We try to control the narrative. That's right. And I think that that's part of the story, right? Because again, it's like that fear of who am I without this? How am I gonna look to other people? What does this mean? You know, it's it's just I think it's just part of being human.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so much makes me think of, you know, I I read in a book, I think it was I think it was Little Fires Everywhere, uh, but I I can't remember, so I'm gonna have to look that up after this. But um, but as parenting being a slow motion heartbreak, because you know, they need you so desperately in the early days, and then there is that gradual letting go, and it is so hard, but you want them to have agency, you want them to have freedom and independence, and you don't want to be a helicopter parent. You also, you know, you don't want them to resent you for being too overbearing. So, where do you find that balance? I feel like it's something that we negotiate day by day as they get older.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. Negotiate and really consciously parent. Like I have been parenting myself in the art of letting go as a mom, as I know it, right? And those little developmental points. And nobody prepares a mother's heart.
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SPEAKER_00No. You know, I mean, I'm very privileged to have two healthy boys and uh what I believe to be a really healthy relationship with them. Um, but yeah, yeah, it's it's a journey for sure.
SPEAKER_02So for our listeners, what are kind of some of the coping mechanisms or kind of the ways in which you were able to get to that state of of letting go, of remaining curious because of staying in the present, you know, because I think we all we all struggle with that on some level. I'm just wondering kind of what what insights you might have to share based on your journey.
SPEAKER_00Oh my goodness. Yeah, look, like I live in my head 98% of the time, and it never tells the the best case scenario, right? Like it's just, I think for me, it's really been a journey of self-awareness. I mean, you know, and that sounds so so typical in like a you know a spiritual wellness industry kind of way, but it really is the truth for me. You know, my first real moment of impact was when my 20-year relationship ended. You know, I we were 17 years old when we met and started dating. He's an incredible human being. Um, even to this day, I will forever hold him in high regard, not only as my boy's dad, but as the what he stands for in his character. I think, yeah, through my first moment of impact, you know, when my when my first marriage ended, um, I found, and actually through a mental health crisis, um I was really not well mentally. After I think my youngest son was nine months and and my oldest might have been three. And so those two things were kind of leading up at the same time. And I found yoga and uh and I did my yoga teacher training in 2013. I went on to um embark on other modalities, um, a Reiki master teacher, um, a body talk practitioner, um, and an intuitive. And so it has along all of these changes and letting go, I have been in this river of inner inquiry and and self practices. Um I have space held for me. I think it's so important. Especially this day and age, to have space held for me. What that means to me is someone that says, come on in exactly as you are and let's have a look. What's going on? Right. And just learning more about myself, where these core beliefs, you know, I always say, like, I'm I work with a somatic therapist. I think I'm 77 sessions in in two and a half years, and I'm never breaking up with that person. They must stay alive and safe at all costs. You know, and I just I just learn where these things, where these beliefs come from, you know, what version of me is telling this story? Like who's got the microphone? Present day Nicole, who's curious and capable, you know, or some other version, you know, that it's bumping up against something.
SPEAKER_02And so for I feel like we should all ask each other that. What version of myself is telling that story? That's such an important question.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And I have compassion for all the versions, right? The scared one, the bitchy one, the messed up one, you know, the polite one, the compassionate one, the one that wants to be liked and loved and belonged, you know, the one that's scared, crapless, you know. All of I have compassion for all of those versions because they served a purpose in my life at some point. And so all of those invitations, whether it's welcomed or not, to let go, I learned more about myself each and every time. And I'm not afraid to look like a shit show. Like I'm not afraid to be messy. I can hold both worlds. I know my capacity, I know my strength, I know who I am, and I also know all of my vulnerabilities. And I just, I'm not afraid to show it. And it's really at the end of the day, it's that first pillar of safety, right? Like emotional safety. We just we we need that. It's non-negotiable. And when loss, impact, trauma, crisis, separation of sorts happens, there's a direct threat to that. And it's terrifying. So of course you're gonna want to make sense of your life and tell a story. But I think suffering is believing that that's the only thing that's true.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah. And and some people do unfortunately um fall into that victim role sometimes, you know, where bad things happen in life, and then they decide I'm the kind of person who bad things always happen to, and that can be a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah, I was that person for seven years, you know, two months after my marital separation, I had a diagnosis that rocked my world. And, you know, it brought a lot of devastation and a full-on belief and so much shame that love was never going to be possible for me ever again. And and I was I sat in that energy for a very long time. You did, and it just pinched off everything that ever wanted to expand in my life, in my world. And it was an yeah, absolutely. I I have full-on compassion for people that are sitting in what you may refer to as victimhood, you know, because my life was so contracted. And it's not like I didn't have people around challenging me in my story. I had so much resource and support, but it was something that I needed to work out intrinsically and internally, and there wasn't a thing that anybody could say or do for me. I had to show up for myself. That's what I was waiting for.
SPEAKER_01And and I think that's the the challenge. Like, I mean, we see people around us, and we know a lot of strong women around us who who can see and can get out of that um because we can challenge ourselves, but there are other people that stay stuck, right? And and I think that again, I go back, I feel very fortunate for the people in my life, and Nicole is one of them. She always surprises me and freaks me out with a lot of stuff. Um but uh but it's good. She keeps me um, you know, challenges me, and and also she reminds me of who I am all the time. Like what and it's it's the most uh incredible, crazy thing sometimes. You know, we we don't we don't have a lot of day-to-day contact, we're not in each other's day-to-day life. We're you know, she's one of my best friends, but we can go like literally years other than our birthday. It's like, hey, happy birthday. But she she knows when I need her, she knows when I am stuck or I need to let go of something. And she she just like again, I tell her all the time, you freak me the fuck out. Like, because she reaches out to me like randomly and says, like, you need to let that shit go, or like, what the hell are you doing? sitting on your bed crying, and I'm thinking, what the fuck is happening here? But um sometimes we do, we get stuck and we can't get out of out of our own way and we can't let things go. And and um, you know, Nicole has been a uh such a strong teacher to me over the years um of just doing that self-reflecting and and letting go of that narrative and creating a new narrative, you know, what do you want your life to look like? Where do you see, you know, what what is going to move you forward, right? And I think that it's just such an an amazing thing when you are able to think that way.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and I think it's about putting yourself in choice, but I think it's also really important to acknowledge that, you know, especially to your listeners, because I think people um will have different resources in their life, right? Like some people may not have a single person to support them right now, you know. And if you're listening and you hear, like, put yourself in choice, what do you want? Let go, what do you value? But you're sitting there like completely alone and really feeling like you don't have a single soul, I think that can really put people at risk for internalizing a felt sense of failure, you know, and that again it just circles right back to the power of the village and even just having that one person in your life that you can show all of yourself to just as you are, you know, that can be there by your side and circle up around you, you know, and help you and support you. And I think, you know, when we feel like we have choice, we're not attached to control, right? And I think, I think, you know, maybe being stuck or or um feeling like an identification with a victim so strongly is a way to control something, you know, and and keeping your life small, because if it's small and contracted and you're controlling it, then there is no more threat, right? Like it's just gonna stay as is, right? And sometimes even welcomed change, right? Like invite all will invite us to let go, right? That's change, right? Something that once was that is no longer. That's change, right? And even even welcome change can feel really scary sometimes because we just don't know what it means. And so the control is trying to figure out what's next, right? Like what where am I going? What does this mean for me? What am I gonna lose here? What am I going to gain? It's very strategic and you're calculating, and it is exhausting, right? Yeah. And when when you get curious and you have the capacity to put yourself in choice, that's when you I call it alignment, right? Like you're not hustling, you're aligned with your values, your boundaries, and everything in your life starts to reflect your center. And I I witnessed Donna and her journey right now. You know, I don't pretend uh to know it, it's not my lived experience. But what I see in this woman is alignment, and not just thought, word, indeed, but everything, even in her physical environment. You know, I've been spending some time in her home this weekend, and I'm like, everything is an aligned extension of this woman.
SPEAKER_02Wow.
SPEAKER_00You know, and I got to see her her kiddos, you know, that I saw when they were like, I saw when they were she was pregnant for.
SPEAKER_02Wow.
SPEAKER_00And I haven't seen them in so long. And I'm like, she's an incredible mother, an amazing mother, a powerhouse professional, you know, and what the the roots and the seeds that she's planting and and cultivating and growing, it's amazing, you know, and she's also moving through some really challenging things. She's uh what I'm she's the embodiment of holding more than one thing at the same time, you know, and and really uh at times forced to take a leap of faith and not know what the hell something means in the immediate or near or long-term future. But she's here and she's locked in and she's asking for help and she's she's saying when she needs it. And at the same time, she's letting the expansion come in. She couldn't do that if she didn't feel safe somewhere somehow in her life and supported and believed in, including herself.
SPEAKER_02And speaking of the power of the village, I think Donna's also amazing at bringing folks together and building a community. And 100%. It's always been her superpower. Yeah, it's and I obviously, you know, I'm the opposite of you, Nicole, in that I've only known Donna a few months, but I mean I was struck by that immediately. And I think that's that's just mutually beneficial, you know, and just like real, a real heart expanding experience, right? So I, you know, um letting a lot of new people into her life. I mean, sometimes when we're in midlife, we get set in our ways, right? And I mean, yeah, we don't grow emotionally if we're in stasis in our lives. And here Donna's taking on this new venture, bringing new people in, and you know, always kind of looking to the future, like what's the potential here, you know, um, even within our podcast, what's the potential for the community? Who do we want to talk to? Who do we want to connect with? And I feel like this is just the beginning, you know, we're gonna connect with so many more people, and it's so exciting and and fulfilling.
SPEAKER_00So uh that's that curiosity, right? Like that's the energy of curiosity. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_01You guys are gonna make me cry.
SPEAKER_00It's actually why we brought you here.
SPEAKER_01It's like the opposite of a roast.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah. Yeah, this this this episode is called The Dawn of Love Fest.
SPEAKER_01All right, I'll take it. I'll take it. I like it.
SPEAKER_02And listen, I'm really I'm really bad with compliments too. I can uh I can handle them via text, but in person I just get really weird.
SPEAKER_00Oh no, give them to me all, like give them all to me.
SPEAKER_01I I'm I've been learning to like be able to take them because I'm like you, Meg, like I I have a really hard time taking the compliments and like I I don't I don't do what I do for recognition. I do it because I I like doing it and it and it fills my bucket. So when people give me you know recognition for that, it yeah, I it does like it makes me shy and because that's I'm not doing it for recognition, but um, but I certainly, you know, am becoming more open and accepting it and thanking people and and um you know and loving that people are resonating with our conversations and you know what we're trying to do here and then she shed unfiltered. So um yeah, no, it is exciting. And Meg and I have hopefully we'll be uh putting some stuff out there that's really exciting in the coming months. Uh absolutely yeah, we've got lots on the go. Never stops. So I think you know, I think if you're still in it, this isn't about rushing yourself. There's still a time to talk and there's a time to release, and only you know when that shift needs to happen. So, but if you're telling the same story and it still hurts in the same way, it might not be healing anymore. And I think that is something that we need to reflect on. And and I think that was something you know that Nicole really brought to the forefront for me, you know, years ago. And um, and it and it does when you stop telling that story over and over again, the healing does begin. Well said.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and I definitely had a lot of light bulb moments with a lot of the things that Nicole just said, you know, what version of myself is telling this story, and you know, also like why am I telling myself this story? You know, is does it fuel my future or does it keep me stuck in the past and mired in past regrets or supposed mistakes, right? So just that point of reflection, I think, is so important.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, absolutely. All right, well, um, Nicole, thank you so much for being here with us. Thank you for having me.
SPEAKER_00Everyone says that, but I really mean it.
SPEAKER_02This conversation honestly felt like two minutes to me. Like we got into it quickly and it just it went by so fast.
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