Careers in Wind Energy

In this episode, we speak with Wyatt Lemieux about his experience working as a Wind Technician at the Mesgi'g Ugju's'n Wind Farm, including what the job is really like, the training involved, and his journey into the wind energy field.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:13

Hey everyone, welcome to the Mauiomi podcast. I'm your host, Cammy Vicare. Today we're talking about careers in wind energy and what that actually looks like from someone working in the field. There's a lot of conversation around renewable energy right now, but not always about the people doing the work. I'm joined by Kurt Dedam, project manager for the Meski Group Jusun Wind Farm. Hey Kurt, thanks for being here.

SPEAKER_02 0:39

Hi Cammy. Thanks for having me back on your podcast. Um so yeah, it was it was uh last time uh we spoke, we talked a little bit about jobs and training, a little bit about what uh what we do. And today we have a special guest here that uh we want to uh I guess get his perspective on uh on his uh on his experience at the mesky hoop choosen wind farm. Just to uh just to give you a quick background on my role. Um, my role's been focused on the Meski Hoopschusen. I work with the three communities, Geskbegia, uh, Gestbeg, and Listadich. Um my role has been more focused on employment, training, and education initiatives. So, what that looks like is that you know I work with I work directly with the community members to see if you know we can get them uh training, get them into training, uh, get them jobs at the Mescu Choosing Wind Farm. And we also do a little bit of education where we uh visit the schools, we do site visits, and uh, you know, we take uh we take people up to the wind farm that just want to learn about the project and learn from our experiences. So I'm happy to uh interview uh a special guest today and uh he'll uh introduce himself.

SPEAKER_01 1:57

Uh hi Kurt. Um Wiley Mew, glad to be here. And Cammy, glad uh that you have me on your podcast.

SPEAKER_02 2:04

That's uh glad to have you here and uh for this uh I think important conversation that uh we're gonna have today.

SPEAKER_01 2:11

Perfect, sounds good.

SPEAKER_00 2:14

Uh so we've been trying to open up more conversation in our communities about careers in this field. There's opportunities there, but it's not always clear how people actually get into it or what the work is really like. So today is really about hearing from Wyatt's experience. Kurt is going to guide us through that conversation. So Kurt, I'll pass that over to you.

SPEAKER_02 2:37

Thanks, Cammy. Uh Wyatt, good to have you here. Just to do a quick background, uh we met uh Wyatt. He approached the MMBC, I think it was about a little over a year ago, and um he said he was interested in you know becoming uh a wind technician. So I said, great. Uh I think first thing we did was we went up for a site ride to the to the site, uh to the Meskiouk choosing, and I showed him around, uh, showed him the uh the offices, he met the team, checked out some uh some wind turbines. Uh, I think they were even doing some construction that day. There was a crane on site. So it was a nice uh first experience. And then shortly after that, uh Wyatt had uh we asked invited Wyatt to uh do our two-day traineeship program. So this was uh an initiative we started uh many years ago uh where you know community members can come on site and just get the the day in the life, learn the day in the life of a wind technician. So we had Wyatt come on site and um he did the say uh learned about safety, safety protocols. Uh, I believe he um uh did a uh tower climb that day. Uh so it was a really nice uh program to allow Wyatt just to really see, get an idea of what this type of work is like. Uh it was really good timing that when Wyatt approached us because we had access to funding for training and also the Collegia College in GASPY was starting up the WinTech training as well. So for those who don't know, the WinTech Training is uh is an eight-month program uh and can be uh can be taken directly in in GASP. We're working currently working with uh the college now to see if we can uh offer that more frequently in in the community. So why he took that eight-month program, uh it was six months uh theory and then two months was uh stage. So we actually went on site and worked directly with the crew. So again, it was uh it was a really nice uh uh intro and a good timing for him as well to uh to to get into this field as a as a wind technician. So just yeah, that was just to give uh just to give a little background of you know where Wyatt comes from. And uh again, he's uh from the guest bag community. So uh that was that was great as well because at MNBC, you know, we represent the uh the three Mi'kmaq communities, Geskabega, Guestbeg, and Listagood. So uh we said absolutely Wyatt, you know, come on board and we'll uh you know we'll take this slow and we'll we'll get you trained up. And uh um yeah, it was uh it was a it's been a good experience. So uh we invited Wyatt uh today to see if he can uh share a little bit of that insight uh about his XPR at the at the Meski U Choosing Wind Farm. So just to start off, uh Wyatt, I gotta I gotta list a little bit of questions here. Maybe we can work through. Um maybe we can start by just telling us a bit about yourself and how you got into working as a wind technician, I guess, from your from your point of view.

SPEAKER_01 5:33

Yeah, for sure. Um what really started me was uh was my actually my principal offered the um she noticed the the opportunity and she came and uh confronted me about it and t uh we sat down and talked and then uh I believe I contacted you shortly not too long after. And yeah, we went up uh went up uh on site. That was that was a great day too. Yeah, it was uh nice I remember it was foggy and uh they yeah, they were doing uh construction on the towers. They had that 400-foot crane, which uh later worked on with during the summer, which is a great experience too. Um and yeah, the two-day training with uh Jonathan Gene was the one that uh did the safety training with me the first day, just showed me a couple things, uh the basic safety equipment, what I'm gonna be doing, what I should do. And the second day was whenever I went up tower and uh they were doing basic maintenance, and uh, I ended up playing uh a role in uh cleaning out the yaw deck, so I got to learn that doing that fast. Uh and yeah, the um that six-month course kind of prepared me over, I could say over-prepared me for what uh in some senses what I was gonna do. And no, it was it was great, definitely great.

SPEAKER_02 7:07

That's awesome. Uh Wyatt, thanks for sharing that. Um and I'm just curious, uh, I think we had this conversation before, but you had said do you had some family members that were into this field as well before?

SPEAKER_01 7:18

Yeah, exactly. Both my uncles uh work uh one of them one of them works uh in Ontario, the other one works down in uh in Moncton. They're both uh travel techs, so they're often traveling. And uh yeah, the stories uh that they told me, uh I mean it's always the same whenever you uh every when technician tells you like the view, it's not unmatched, especially in like I got the experience of the fall. Fall, you see all the leaves on the trees and changing color. The best views is if you want the the best office views every day, definitely when the technician is the right job. Yeah, they uh but yeah, talking about their experiences, uh different uh pieces of the job. And but yeah, just got interested.

SPEAKER_02 8:06

Nice. Yeah, it must be a really uh really beautiful view up there uh with all the colors and depends on the season, and you must see the occasional moose uh walking by.

SPEAKER_01 8:15

Yeah, definitely. And uh see all kinds of animals, a couple moose, deer, deer almost every day. Um, yeah, lynx, everything crosses your path whenever you're going to work. Nice.

SPEAKER_02 8:27

So a little bit about your um about your experience. Uh, you know, do uh what was your experience like, you know, getting into this? Did you have a big background, let's say mechanics, electrical? Uh, because you know, a lot of people tend to feel that you know they they need a lot of experience just getting into this. Can you tell me, you know, a little bit about that?

SPEAKER_01 8:46

I didn't really have a whole lot of experience to start off with before well before the course, but uh they the people at the in Gaspay at the um at the school, sorry. At the school in uh in Gas Bay really show you everything you need to know. Um great teachers there. Um really just in some senses overprepare you for uh for what you're gonna do. You any anything you need to know, they they're ready to teach you. And they're all welcoming there. It's a great little family to be part of for that six-month period before you start your stage.

SPEAKER_02 9:30

So when you say like uh over prepared, like you mean it sounds like it's a very thorough course, right? Because I I know uh you know this is a very um uh it can't it can be you know a lot of safety involved in this type of field, right? You're working at heights, confined spaces, you're traveling. Um, so I imagine they went quite in depth. You know, what are some things, like you said, they they prepped you for when you were uh when you were doing it, doing the training.

SPEAKER_01 9:56

Well, I say overprepare. I think uh I didn't I don't mean in a bad way, just uh I mean it is in uh they're they're great to to the students and they make you r really ready for whenever you start your field.

SPEAKER_02 10:11

Um things that maybe uh you might not use right away, but hey, it was good to know, like uh like rescue, right? If somebody's somebody's uh hanging on a ladder, well you have to know how to to do that rescue protocol. It's not something you want to practice, but but nonetheless they have to show you, right?

SPEAKER_01 10:28

They uh show you at school there's uh this technique. They have a well, and sometimes they use a dummy, sometimes they use a a real person. They just hang them from the excuse me, hang them from the the ceiling with uh by a rope, and you have to climb down using your harness and attach yourself to them and drop your lower both yourselves to the ground as uh as best as you can. So yeah, all the the safety stuff like the climbing off the tower uh from the outside and being ready to save someone if they fall off the tower. I mean it's good to know that, but it doesn't really happen very often.

SPEAKER_02 11:10

Right, because there's so much uh safety, safety measures put in place, right? Safety protocols that they they make sure you're very aware of. Yeah, exactly. And I know uh talking with Interjects in the past, you know, they they seem pretty adamant on their safety as well and making sure to follow those protocols and making sure you're home at the end of the day, right? That's that's all that really matters, make sure you get home every night. Yeah, that's it.

SPEAKER_01 11:32

I mean, it's a job, but uh it's it's uh it's a very dangerous job, and you don't want to make it overcomplicated for yourself. So you end up uh, like you said, back home with your family at the end of the day. That's what's important.

SPEAKER_02 11:46

Yeah. So um what does I guess just to summarize, what uh you know, you you get up in the morning, uh, you know, obviously you you have to um commute to commute there. There's a there's a list of things you do in a day, uh, you know, report in your office and that, you know, just generally what uh what does your day look like a normal day as a as a wind technician?

SPEAKER_01 12:06

Um starting off, you know, uh we come in about around seven. And uh usually have you your tasks like on the SCADA as soon as you come in, it shows you which is which windmills like uh have uh have problems on them. And it's very simple. Like the that program, it's uh you just it basically tells you like different uh different sites of different uh different types of things, but well different uh programs, sorry, but uh it really tells you the specific most 90% of the time it really gives you the specific problem. Like what's going on, what's going on that specific turbine. Exactly, and then you could prepare the right way. Right. Instead of going in guessing, uh guessing what's wrong and not having the right tools or anything for it. So that uh is mostly what you do whenever you right walk in the door. Then after that, uh it's just preparing stuff on your computer, like looking at the different schematics. They say if you need to do troubleshooting, it's the different power line, uh different electrical lines that you might need to uh tinker with. Um same thing for the mechanical parts, looking at the at the schematics. Uh after that, usually go uh get ready, get all the stuff you need in out of the out of the shop, and head out from there to to whatever tower needs uh needs fixing.

SPEAKER_02 13:46

And then when you're when you're dispatched out to this, uh to the turbine, um, you know, you must be quite a bit far from from the uh from the operations building, right? Like because you guys have to report, start your day reporting at the operations building. Then you're dispatched out and you're just that's kind of where you hang out for the day usually, like at the turbine. Yeah, if you're lunch out there.

SPEAKER_01 14:05

And pretty much, depending on how long the job is, the you could be there all day. Like during during maintenance, you're sometimes you're there. Well, you're there basically the whole day. You eat lunch in the tower, and you go back home at the end of the day. But uh yeah, the farthest tower from uh from uh HQ, you could say, is uh about forty-five minutes away from driving the woods. Yeah. And the closest one, I mean it's like a five-minute drive.

SPEAKER_02 14:30

Yeah. It really depends. So it sounds sorry, it sounds like uh, you know, you sit out there and having a just a nice peaceful lunch out in the middle of nowhere with a nice view and just none here but the none but the birds chirping. And yeah, yeah, it sounds real peaceful.

SPEAKER_01 14:47

Yeah, and uh, I mean, if you're 45 minutes away, you also don't want to forget any try not to forget anything too. You don't want to make that whole drive back for one specific tool that you could uh saved all that time. Uh right.

SPEAKER_02 14:58

So there must be a lot of uh thinking through your your next steps, right? Your day, your prep for your day is probably critical, right? And yeah, making sure you get those you get those right tools loaded up so you're not doing that or not uh not bugging the guys and maybe uh next turbine over uh say, Hey, can I borrow some tools? Yeah, yeah. It must happen once in a while.

SPEAKER_01 15:18

Yeah. Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah, you uh forget something and there's a team not too far not too far and radio over and ask them to borrow some or they don't not really coming down, like you have to drive over there, they're in the tower, and then they drop down uh from the the cable line. They drop the they drop that down, the tools, whatever you need, and yeah, it's uh I mean it's a fun experience. Fun, it's a fun job.

SPEAKER_02 15:47

Right. Yeah, no, and it's uh like we were talking before the uh before we started this podcast, you know, like just the uh the views that you get when you're up there and um where that cable line, you're talking about that hatch, you know, you're looking down, you're you're what 300 and some feet up there in a tower.

SPEAKER_01 16:04

It's a long, long way down. Uh so yeah. Try to attach yourself as best you can to anything close by.

SPEAKER_02 16:11

Hence the safety. So how do you feel about everything like working there? You have you felt pretty safe and everything, getting ready for this course. You felt prepared and given everything you needed to know to make sure that you're doing your job safely.

SPEAKER_01 16:22

Yeah, for sure. I mean, they Interjects gives you a safety course and you get a safety course while you're uh while you're at school. So I mean, it's hard uh it's hard to to screw up this your safety in the in the tower. Like it's pretty self-explanatory usually whenever you get in there. You if you're opening up the hatch, you keep your harness on, you attach your lanyard to uh to the there's a little hook on the gearbox or the the generator that you that you hook your lanyard on. So uh yeah, pretty much it's uh it's harder to to fail at safety than it is uh to you know walk through day and it's and it's going good, you know?

SPEAKER_02 17:08

Okay. So just to uh ask the this two-sided question, I guess next is the you know, what are some of the hardest things or maybe the most challenging parts of the job? You know, just uh so people, you know, know getting into this, you know, these these are the things you have to be prepared with this type of job, but also, you know, what do you again, what do you enjoy most about it? I know we talked a little bit about the view and that, but what are some other aspects of the job that you uh enjoy? So the most challenging and the most enjoyable.

SPEAKER_01 17:36

I think uh in some uh in some uh time sometimes it's um like uh the specific places you gotta put your body in might be hard on your back, uh your knees. Uh it's a it's a very demanding job for your body.

SPEAKER_02 17:56

So that's uh that's one of the and so physical fitness, uh you know, you have to have some sort of physical fitness getting into this climb some sort of height with a ladder and exactly.

SPEAKER_01 18:06

And we're uh very we're very lucky to have uh an elevator in our tower that goes up three three-quarters of the way. So uh it's not that high of a climb. But if someone, if you're working at a different site, you might not have that luxury and uh climbing up you have to be fit to and have good cardio to to climb up that uh it might not seem that bad at first, but you know, climbing a 300-foot ladder is is not uh it's not as easy as some people might uh make it seem, you know.

SPEAKER_02 18:39

Yeah, and you must be an aspect where at least you start, it probably takes you a few weeks to do enough of these towers. You start to get in shape a bit. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you're gonna build that little bit of like muscle wire on site.

SPEAKER_01 18:48

So back starts getting a little wider, you know. Yeah. Yeah, that's it. And uh another thing, maybe hard about the job. I mean, you're uh in windmills, you're in uh high altitude for to try to find a lot of wind. Well, ideally your your towers are in a place where there's a lot of wind. So during the winter, uh it's like minus 30 and the wind kind of feels like minus 40. It's not gets chilly up there. I mean, Enerjax is good with uh setting you up with the best uh winter equipment for the winter suit, pants, uh face shields, all stuff like that. But you know, it gets a little nippy.

SPEAKER_02 19:27

Yeah, yeah, I bet you guys can't wait to get back down in that truck and a little bit of heat. And exactly. Yeah. That's the thing with these uh these outdoor jobs, right? It's uh it's the winter warm and uh the sorry, the summer warm and the winter cold.

SPEAKER_01 19:40

Yeah, like yeah, yeah. And with the in a turbine, it's kind of uh like during the summer, if it's um I don't know, 25 degrees Celsius, yeah, it's it's like a vacuum. It'll push that uh hot air, it'll it'll bring that hot air from the inside, so it'll bring it like an extra 10 uh 10 degrees and make it extra 10 degrees inside. So makes it hotter in the summer, in the winter, it does uh does the opposite, so it makes it even colder inside the tower.

SPEAKER_02 20:11

Yeah, it's uh yeah, it's it quite the experience, eh? And so on on the other side, again, the flip side, what uh what are some things like you say you enjoy most about? I know we talked uh definitely about the view and uh you know the scenery and everything. And what are some other aspects that you know maybe share with somebody maybe considering a uh you know a career in this field?

SPEAKER_01 20:32

Yeah, I mean it's uh for me it was just uh learning different things from different people, like uh the different techniques about the job, like whatcha about the everyday job, meeting new people.

SPEAKER_02 20:45

Um It must have been fun though, you know, like for me, uh, you know, I like I like tinkering with things, you know. I like you know, the getting into the you know, the wiring schematics, the mechanics and fixing and you know, the and what was that like, you know, did you like that aspect of it?

SPEAKER_01 21:00

Yeah, you do that a lot on uh like certain days there's like a wind out, so there's too many, too much wind to go into the tower. So you'll be back at the shop usually looking over schematics or tinkering with different uh types of machinery that uh you couldn't do uh another day if you're in a tower. But yeah, that was uh that was a good part too. A lot of the winter I was uh taking out part uh a lot of uh different different small machines up at the at the shop. And yeah, you learn uh you learn a lot by doing it yourself sometimes and having people help you.

SPEAKER_02 21:37

Yeah, and that communication aspect must be must be huge as well, right? Like being good with working in a team setting. I mean, there's probably times where you are working alone, but at the same time you have to rely on your team or maybe your more experienced co-workers for you know their input and you know how to fix things. And you know, there must be a lot of uh a communication aspect that you guys have to you know become. comfortable with?

SPEAKER_01 22:00

Yeah, it's like a it's like a it's like a team sport, you know, you if you don't trust your guys going into the tower, it's I mean it's it's a dangerous job. You want to trust the guys that you're going up there with. If you don't think that they're capable of uh something goes wrong helping you out or you I mean you everyone has the right to refuse to go up in a in in a tower. That's kind of the main thing that they let you know at the at the start of the course and the start of the job that everyone has the right to refuse to go into the tower. But uh yeah you want to trust you want to be good at teamwork. You want to trust the guys that you're going in there working with so a lot of team uh team building that you to do communication it's a yeah it's not a job that you do just by yourself. Right. Yeah and it do you ever uh are there any times are you ever work like by yourself uh where you're by yourself or you they always pair you up with somebody is that the general rule or at the beginning I was paired uh like during my stage paired with uh with more people kind of getting the the base of everything but later on if you guys are like spread in the tower some spread apart in the tower to different places you might work on your own but you know you always know that your buddy's not far if anything goes wrong.

SPEAKER_02 23:16

Yeah and they must give you tasks that they know okay you're a new guy so you know you should be able to handle this uh general repair right troubleshoot this you know they'll probably give you work that they know you could handle and yeah exactly yeah you won't get the sometimes it's uh not as fun for uh the new guy to type of work that you're getting but uh you know it's a learning curve. Yeah just like any workplace you know it's uh there's an adjustment period right you're the new guy and yeah exactly they want to test you out and uh see this is uh you know something that you're interested in so no that's good um so getting to the end of our questions here I just wanted to uh to ask you you know you know we've stimulated a lot of conversation and ask these talked a really a lot about what you do on a day-to-day basis and gave us some really good insight you know for people who are considering uh you know a career in this in this area or want to take the training want to take that leap you know what would you what would you tell them the you know about about this field uh what would you say to them I mean I'd ask them if they're afraid of heights pretty probably the first question for sure yeah if you're afraid of heights it wouldn't uh and and maybe reconsider a little bit right but uh no it's uh you're you're I love it it's uh the you you'll meet new guys you you're that's basically your family like uh you're with them eight hours eight hours nine hours of the day uh you get to know the guys uh it's it's a great uh it's a great job to be a part of great family to be a part of it's uh yeah it's uh yeah and it was it like we must have been good too also like you know from start to finish you know when you like I said at the beginning you know you had contacted us you know we we at least we started with a site visit then we did the two-day traineeship program and then you know it was a nice progression for you you know that's too on your end like we know we see it from our side we kind of build these programs and these processes but you know did you feel it was pretty smooth right from start to finish I mean there's definitely some learning curves in there the learning bumps but uh no uh if you're if you're ready to learn and uh and you're enthusiastic about it and you know asking ask a lot of questions you know you don't want to go into a job where you're you're going in blind kind of thing so don't be afraid to ask a lot of questions that's uh it's what uh older guys are there for the more experienced guys right um yeah it's I mean if you do it right like the Jonathan Gene the one that uh taught me uh taught me uh the safety the the two day pro uh the two day uh program for safety he um said it's no uh it's just as safe as walking walking across the road you know if you do it the right way it's even walking across the road it's a little more dangerous you know you don't know if uh certain cars are coming but yeah it's uh you do it right it's a safe job uh great guys it's a it's a fun job if you're you're looking into it and uh thinking about it definitely going to it great thank you for sharing that and uh thanks for sharing all your experience uh so um so whyot uh has been uh uh he graduated from the AEC diploma uh program from uh Collegia uh that's the full eight month program um that I mentioned earlier and uh so Wyatt has gone through that and uh you know Wyatt has let us know that uh recently that uh he's actually uh uh moving on he's had some life changes and he's actually uh we'll be moving on to other opportunities so we won't be at the MU anymore um so he's uh I don't know if you want to share a little bit about that. I know uh you know you you talked a little bit about other fields you want to look at and uh but uh yeah did you want to take a second to share a little bit of that oh sure yeah I mean uh uh I'll be uh going back to school and doing uh uh industrial mechanic in um in uh at St. Lawrence College in Cornwall and yeah I've you know it was a great experience I mean I I loved the j I love doing the job but I'm also uh 19 and like to experience different things go different places you know so I mean it's kind of yeah yeah no that's good and like I said you're you're young and uh still lots of opportunity out there for you and uh you know we hope that uh you know someday you'll circle your way back home uh as we all tend to do we come back to the uh to the nest and uh but if you ever down this way for sure reach out to us and uh you know if you have the experience and the training now that you know maybe we can uh we can explore this again someday or uh you know the MNBC is an economic development unit so you know there's always new business opportunities you know through our partners and our our partnerships. So if you know we'll uh we'll always have the door open for you to have a conversation if you want to everyone to come back home and uh see what's uh what kind of job opportunities there might be available. So one other thing I wanted to share is that as many know the uh the Meskiuk choosing uh project is currently getting expanded and uh the turbine supplier for that expansion is uh the company Nordx and they've reached out to the community and they've had a really community uh based approach uh where they've offered us uh our community members exclusively Geskebegia Gesbeg and Listeguch uh training and employment uh for wind technicians at the Meskiuk Jujin 2 project so they've uh they've came to the community they've done uh a presentation to the three communities and they're actually inviting uh anybody who wants to come and apply you can have minimal experience so I think I believe um I'll have to look at the uh I recall the job description but I I believe it's just a a high school uh diploma and uh you know you don't necessarily have to have direct you know mechanical electrical electrical experience um but uh they're willing to train you on site in the in in their company so they'll give you the full training uh and that will lead to full-time employment and what's really cool too is that they uh uh they'll uh you become an employee right from the right from the get go so that means you're on the payroll right away even though you're in training so you know really really cool uh hiring opportunity for NordEx if anybody wants to apply for that I encourage to do that as soon as possible those jobs are going to fill up soon uh they're looking for up to four win technicians and uh a site lead for that and just to kind of back uh backtrack with you know with Wyatt where we talked about Wyatt uh heading out soon there will be that uh job position opening up as well at the Mescu Choosin One project uh which is separate and uh through that you know we could look at uh if you reach out to MNBC we could um help connect you with uh your community's you know education employment uh departments and help you get the training and uh show you the you know if you're interested in this type of work how we can get you uh employment at the at the MU. And yeah just a big shout out to our partners uh Colegia uh in GASPI uh right now we're doing actually a 10-week entry-level win tech uh win tech training program and uh they're on their uh second week of their stage and uh yeah they're enjoying it as well and they they've actually all almost all of them have been uh hired on so far so really positive uh you know for those students and you know if if with collegia they're always developing their program to try and get it uh translated into English um so if that's not something for you right now if we can't you can't go the collegio route right now because they're still converting they're translating their program to English there's always NBCC that offers it in New Brunswick. There's a wind technician slash uh solar power training uh course available and then there's Holland College and PEI that offers again a full wind tech program. So there's options locally you can uh you can go down to Maine I think Ottawa but generally around here those are the closest at the moment that we know of so uh again Kurt to Dam and uh if you guys are interested reach out at the MABC and uh you know we'll try to help you out and you know if you're interested in this type of work we'll uh we'll give it uh we'll give it a go thank you well thank you uh for everyone for being here it's actually a very interesting conversation Wyatt um happy you came uh to chat with us today from the sounds of it your career looks like it's gonna be taking off or as you're moving forward and I'm happy uh MNBC played a part in that thank you thank you and uh we hope to welcome you back again in the future like uh Kurt was saying there's many opportunities coming up or uh in the future there's gonna be more and more um and I was happy to have Kurt here today taking the lead on questions uh he is very knowledgeable and he's working every day to try to get community members uh working on site um so really if anyone's listening today and are interested in this field I really highly recommend reaching out to Kurt.

SPEAKER_00 32:45

Uh his email is kedam at mmcorporation.ca he's always looking for to motivate community members or to provide information to community members about working on site. If you're interested in opportunities like this just keep an eye on our Facebook page that's usually or the MU uh the Meskey Gookjusen Facebook page we typically post up there. Also our MMBC website or MMBC Facebook page so yeah thanks for listening to the Mauiomi podcast today and we hope to welcome you again next time