Home Grown: Real Athletes. Real Stories. Big Dreams.

Home Grown: Nate Mahouchick

• Steve Goodson • Season 1 • Episode 10

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Be Comfortable Being Uncomfortable | Nate Mahouchick | Home Grown

The jump from high school star to college athlete isn’t smooth—it’s fast, physical, and sometimes painful.

In this episode of Home Grown: Real Athletes. Real Stories. Big Dreams., Methodist University midfielder Nate Mahouchick shares the journey from growing up on the sidelines of Jacksonville High School watching his dad coach to earning minutes at the next level.

Nate opens up about the moment the college game hit him—literally—during his first preseason session, the quick pass that finally settled his nerves in a live match, and the daily consistency it takes to earn trust from coaches and teammates.

Then came the toughest test: an ACL tear on the final practice of the season.

Nate walks through the rehab grind, the mental discipline of staying engaged when you can’t play, and how film study, team culture, and small wins kept him moving forward. Along the way, he reflects on his pride in seeing other Onslow County players on the Methodist roster and on how international teammates helped deepen his understanding of the game.

We also dive into:
⚽ Growing up around Jacksonville High soccer
⚽ Being the coach’s son and the pressure that comes with it
⚽ The speed and physicality of the college game
⚽ Recovering from an ACL injury
⚽ Leadership through consistency
⚽ Turning recovery into a career path in athletic training

Nate’s message for young athletes is simple but powerful: Be comfortable being uncomfortable.

If you’re chasing the next level—or fighting your way back from a setback—this conversation will hit home.

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They grew up on our fields, on our courts, in our towns. And now they've taken that hometown pride to the college stage. This is Homegrown. Real athletes, real stories, big dreams.

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Welcome to Homegrown. Real athletes, real stories, and big dreams. I'm your host, Steve Goodson, and today we're catching up with a hometown star who has been around soccer his whole life. From tag-along sideline kid to Jacksonville High School standout, and now a sophomore midfielder at Methodist University, Nate Mahauchik. Nate grew up in Jacksonville watching his dad, Joey, coach and play a huge role in the Cardinals program. Soccer has been a part of his life since he was three. And that early connection to the game helped him develop into a leader both on and off the field. Now at Methodist, Nate joins a long line of Monslow County athletes continuing that journey at the college level, even while facing one of the toughest challenges an athlete can encounter. Rehabs, a knee injury. And this sort of story is much about growth, resilience, and staying connected to home. So Nate, welcome to Homegrown, man. Thank you. Thanks for having me. All right, absolutely. So let's let's just start where we need to start, man. Start at the beginning. Growing up, soccer was always a big part of your life. Your dad played at Barton in Wilson, and uh and he continues to stay involved with the sport by coaching. Can you share some memories from those early years and how that shaped your love of the game?

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I think just going to the practices and going to the games and seeing the success that Jacksonville had and the fun that they had made me feel like I wanted to do that and I want to be a part of that. So I think that's what really shaped my love for the game.

SPEAKER_00

And you started playing uh rec soccer out at uh J the local fields of Jazza. Did your dad ever coach you when you were when you were?

SPEAKER_02

He coached when I was in the academy at OCSA, he started coaching me then.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. But when you were growing and really learning the game, he kind of he would kind of let other he was just dad. Okay, good. I've got a good story about dad that's uh about coaching and and and and putting pressure on kids that might come up later on. So did having your so did having your dad as an assistant coach at Jacksonville High School add any pressure to you? Or is it more motivating to uh for you? That's that's the first part of the question. The next part is did it influence your approach to the game with him being being a coach?

SPEAKER_02

So any pressure and then and then did it influence your I think it was a little bit of pressure and motivation just because like you know, I always I want to make him proud and you know, and there's always gonna be people that are like, oh, he's only on the team or he's only playing because he's the coach's son. So that was motivating to prove those people wrong that I can do this, I belong here, and I'm not just having the success that I'm having because my dad's a coach.

SPEAKER_00

And and and personally, knowing the dynamics of the head coach at the time, Coach Miller, and your dad, uh Coach Dave really laid back, just kind of you know, kind of, hey man, your dad was more the across the team wise, was more of the enforcer, right? More of the disciplinarian. Yeah. Yeah. So did like, did you guys, man, when y'all got done and y'all were walking off the field or hanging out or you were hanging out with your buddies, did any of your buddies like, man, your dad's a jerk?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. There are some, there are definitely some guys.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely. So looking back at your high school career, 14 goals, 18 assists, your senior year, first team all area, all state, all conference. What moments or achievements stand out the most to you?

SPEAKER_02

Uh, I think Allstate was being able to represent Jacksonville High School in the East West All-Star game. That was an honor and it was really cool. But I think what stood out to me the most was not just my success, was it was the team's success and other people's success. Like Slayton Owens also made All-State, made the East West team. But then also seeing the underclassmen, watching them grow and become better soccer players and better people on and off the field was really cool.

SPEAKER_00

And your senior year, y'all made it, how far did y'all make it? Regional? To the fourth round. Okay, okay. That would be the regional semis or final or regional semifinals. Regional semifinals. Who beat y'all? Do you remember?

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J.

SPEAKER_02

H. Rose beat you.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. And and they were when at that time, they were in your conference, weren't you? Yeah. Yeah. And how did do you remember how y'all fared during during the season? You played them twice.

SPEAKER_02

We we tied 3-3 at Rose and then we lost 5-4 during during the regular season.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, okay. So um, so when it came came time to choose a college and continue on playing soccer, did the fact that several kids from Oslo County were playing or going to be playing at Methodist, did that factor in in your decision at all?

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Yeah, it definitely did.

SPEAKER_00

Kind of just that comfort feeling.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, because college is a big transition and having people that you already know and people that know where you came from and where you grew up from, it was just made that transition smoother.

SPEAKER_00

So currently on the Methodist roster, Oslo County, can you can you recite because there's what four or five kids, right?

SPEAKER_02

Alex Rampson from White Oak. Okay, and then you've got Steven and Garrett from Swansboro.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

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And I think I think it's just us. Okay. Oh no, Chase and Chase Grog from Swansboro as well.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, so three Swansboro kids, one White Oak and just one Jackson kid. Yeah. Okay, good deal. So uh was that the so that comfort level uh being able to just, you know, at the end of the end of that transition from senior year to freshman year, going up there, going through the physicality. I mean, just at a different level. Different level, right, man? Talk about preseason. Oh, by the way, I'm I'm off script now. Pre-season training uh once you get up to Fedville. You know the coach, you you've known the coach from your beyond your your travel soccer days, uh, probably some the ODP stuff and you know and stuff like that. But uh when you get up there, talk about your preseason training. Tough?

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Uh yeah, it's tough. Is it fitness levels and just level of play too? Like the first day of training, you know, I'm thinking like, oh, I I've got this, and then first time I touched the ball, and I just get smacked, and I'm like, yeah, like just woke up.

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So just the not only the fiscality, but the speed of the game too. It's just so much faster. So did they send you uh like a like a hey, when you come up here, like a preseason, like summer, a summer training, training?

SPEAKER_02

It was um just different fitness stuff to do. And um we had a it was a Nike run club, we had to run 180 miles over the summer, and that was like our our challenge for the summer.

SPEAKER_00

And then so did you do all that stuff? Uh I tried to. And then when but but and then when you got up there, you're like, okay, I've I put in my my time training. And then you got up there and like were you puking?

SPEAKER_02

No, it wasn't I wasn't puking, but but it was definitely harder. Yeah, it was tough.

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Okay. So how did it feel for you to step on the field the first time at Methodist and to play and compete at that college level? Uh I was definitely nervous.

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And um, you know, I was thought going through all the training, I thought I was ready, and then you step on the field and you're like, you're gonna be nervous. But then I completed my first pass, like first time I touched the ball. So that's what you're like, yeah. Yeah, I was like, all right, we're good. It helped me settle down a little bit.

SPEAKER_00

So besides the speed of the game, which you talked about during the training, that first time you stepped on stepped on the field in a game situation, was there anything else that that surprised you?

SPEAKER_02

Um It was really just what surprised me was just the speed of play. Yeah, too. It was just so much faster. Like you've got you don't have any time on the ball, you've got one, two touches, and then you got to get rid of it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and you knew everybody was good.

SPEAKER_02

Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, you played against really good competition in high school. Your team was really good. Your your high school team was good. But there were times in high school you might play somebody, and I was talking to um uh McKenzie Morrow, who went to the Naval Academy, uh, and talking about the high school, the difference in high school and or travel soccer. Uh when you played high school, there was times that you, what it was at 8-0 or 9-0 teams. There was just some times you played against teams that weren't very good, right? And players specifically that were not very good. Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

College college is not yeah, it didn't exist, right?

SPEAKER_00

There was no hiding. There's no, yeah, no right back or left back that's uh outside back that you're hiding somebody or okay. Okay, yeah, it was it was it was game on. Yeah. Game on. So I think if I'm not mistaken, it happened right near the end of the season, was it the last season?

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It was the last practice.

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Last practice. Yeah. You hurt you hurt your yourself, you you tore your ACL. Yep. And so going into the summer and then the fall now, and now coming back into the spring, you've had to sit out due due to a knee injury. Um how was that experience been first physically, but obviously, man, more mentally as much. Uh and how you stay stayed engaged with the team. Uh it definitely sucks. Injuries are the worst part of sports.

SPEAKER_02

It's the worst part of sports, right? But um, you know, physically, just doing all the rehab and doing the exercises and getting back to where I was and getting better. But what's tough is the mental part of it because I practice, I've seen all my buddies playing, having fun, and you're just like sitting there like, dang.

SPEAKER_00

Well, and I don't, and I think I was talking, I don't know if I was talking to you about this, but I or you know uh earlier, but I was talking to somebody about it. The games are always the carrots, right? You put in practice, you do the training, it's not supposed to be fun. Now, I was talking to somebody that got redshirted. That's that's what it was. That was redshirted for another reason. So he went through the practices that you go through all these practices. They're not supposed to be fun, they're supposed to be hard. I mean, you're supposed to learn. And at the end of the week or whatever, midweek or whatever, you have your game or your match, and that's like the carrot. The the reward for putting in the work. Yeah. So once you were somewhat healed from your injury and you were able to start practicing again, you're able to practice, but you weren't able to play. Right. That had to be that had to be tough, like you said, seeing seeing you seeing them go out there and do that, right?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it was it was tough. But uh that just you know motivated me more to get back out there and like do my rehab right, so that way I'm getting getting right so I can.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And we're we're you know, we're we're we're recording this the first part of January and 2026. It'll this uh show will air sometime uh between now and and uh April or May. So you've at this point in time you've got one more uh test or one more checkup and to to be fully cleared. Yeah. And then you'll be able to go back and continue training, but coach is not gonna let you uh Yeah, no, like no contact.

SPEAKER_02

He won't let me. Yeah. He won't let me like Well, that's all right, man. Yeah, at least I can touch a soccer ball. Yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so that'll be good. So you'll be ready to roll next fall. Yes, should be. You'll be chomping at the bit, man, right? Yeah, yeah, I'm sure you will be. So you've already experienced some moments of success at Methodist. You you recorded your first uh assist uh in the fall of your freshman year, and you played some meaningful minutes as a freshman. How have those experiences shaped your expectations moving forward?

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They've raised my expectations for the future because you know, freshman year, you're not really expecting to play a lot. But I was lucky enough to play some, get an assist, and now it's about being more consistent and getting more meaningful minutes and not just being a guy that plays, but being a guy that can contribute and you know, there you're build trust from your coaches and your teammates that like when you need someone to step up, you can be that guy. So that's that's the plan.

SPEAKER_00

That's awesome. So off script, um kids from other countries. Do y'all have kids from on your team, on the roster, from wherever?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, we've got a couple guys from Columbia. I think we've got like one guy from Mexico, but most of the guys are North Carolina, a bunch of guys from Florida, okay. Not none international, not a lot internationally.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, so so even with the Florida guys and North Columbia, I guess what I'm getting around to is can you tell a difference maybe in the way that they were brought up playing soccer, maybe whether the training or anything like that, maybe not Florida, but the one or two guys that you have that are international guys, are are they around your age and they are they just a little more? Because I mean, soccer's catching on in the United States. We've we're trying to do better in the World Cup, I'll just say that, right? But a lot of these other international countries, um, their kids when they first can walk, much like you at three, but I mean they got a soccer ball on their foot, and it's it's it's like you know, it's like their focus. Could you tell any difference in the skill level or training or anything else?

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There's one guy that stands out, Matthew Manzano. He's he was a senior this year. Okay, and he he's definitely like the best player I've ever played with. Like his technical ability and his strength and physicality, it was it was a different level. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And that's high praise because you played with some really good, I mean, not only in, you know, obviously in high school, but you played a real at a real hell high level uh club-wise as well. So that's so yes, that's really high praise. So so beyond the stats and awards, what lessons about teamwork, leadership, and I'm gonna say perseverance do you do you think soccer has taught you that uh you carry on on the field but also off the field?

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I think soccer has taught me how to be part of something bigger than myself. You know, I'm not just playing for myself, I'm playing for my family, putting time, money, effort for me to succeed, and then also the people that put on the jersey before me. So playing for them. And then it taught me what it means to be a real leader, not just on the field, not just having the title like the captain's armband, but being the most consistent and putting the work in and I have to stop there. I lost my train.

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That's all right. That's all right. We can start back and we can come back and we'll just start back at question 10. Okay. And we'll just start over. That's cool, bud. All right. Hey, no worries. You ready? Or you want to think about a second? Hold on, no worries. Good, I can get a sub a drink. I got cotton mouth. Look, if you'd have gone through this and not had to do that, you'd been the first. Every everybody has had to regroup. That's right, brother. Ain't no worries. You got it? Okay. So let's talk about beyond the stats and awards. What lessons about teamwork, leadership, or and or perseverance, which that's a big one for you right now, do you think soccer has taught you that carry off the field? So not only on the field, but off the field.

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I I think soccer's taught me how to be um part of something bigger than myself. And playing not just playing for myself, but playing for my family and playing for the people that put the jersey on before me. And also taught me what to be, what it means to be a real leader, and you know, not just on the field, but off the field, you know, like through the classroom, get keeping grades up and being a good example off the field, you know, doing the right things, you know, you still have fun, but there's a right way to do it. Yeah. So and then perseverance definitely the biggest thing. Yeah, dude, that's tough, man. I mean, you're right.

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I mean, the being injured, man, that's that I mean I mean being an athlete and watching your friends play is tough.

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Yeah, but just just staying consistent and being patient, and I think yeah, just really the patience thing is a is a big thing, isn't it? Because you because when you're injured and you're out and you you want to get back out there, but if you you know do it too early, you're gonna get injured again, or something's gonna be something's gonna be.

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And you and you feel like probably, I mean, I know I did, I I'm you know, when I was injured and playing football, you feel in your mind, hey, I'm ready. Yeah, I'm I'm good to go. It's like, hey man, I got this. I felt that. And then yeah, and then but then the doc comes in and was like, yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, no, you're not ready. And that's that's kind of a bummer. Yeah. So being patient, uh, and trust me, man, being patient, patience is a good lesson to learn later on in life. So uh that's I I I you know, I know it's hard now, but uh it'll that'll come back to help you later on in life, man. So looking ahead, personal goals for the rest of the time that you play soccer, or just general, man, your college, your college career, both on the field and off the field, academically and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_02

I think for soccer, like I said earlier, just being more consistent, getting more meaningful minutes, and contributing to the team, but academically maintaining the good grades, and you know, I want to be an athletic trainer.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, I was gonna ask you, so you want it, so you don't want to be a PE teacher?

SPEAKER_02

Not anymore. I did. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Well, trust me, it took my son, who was 26 years old, it took him many, many, many, many years to uh not want to be a PE teacher. I tell the story to everybody. Uh my son comes home one day after his sixth grade year uh at Newbridge Middle School, and he says, Dad, I know what I want to be when I grow up. I want to be a m a middle school PE teacher. And I'm like, okay, why do you want to be a middle school PE teacher? He says, so I can wear shorts and a t-shirt to school every day just like Coach Joey. So you got out of that phase and you kicked into to being physical therapy, you said?

SPEAKER_02

Well, athletic trainer, athletic trainer, okay. Maybe physical therapy. I haven't thought that part.

SPEAKER_00

So athletic trainer, you want to do it collegiately, professionally? I mean, you want to come back home and professionally be cool.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. But also maybe like coming back home and you know, maybe being an assistant coach at Jacksonville or something.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. Cool deal. Cool deal. So finally, what advice? This is the last, the next last question. Finally, what advice would you give young athletes? We got a young, a lot of people, a lot of kids that play soccer, man, around here, uh, or any athlete in Jackson, Oslo County, who potentially dreams playing sports at the next level. What advice advice would you give them? I would say be comfortable being uncomfortable.

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You know, that's great advice. That's did your dad t tell you that.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, because that's that sounds like a joeyism right there, man. That's that's probably he's probably said that. He's probably has that, yeah. But be comfortable at being uncomfortable.

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Because you not everything's gonna go your way, you're gonna have setbacks, you're gonna get injured, but you just gotta put your head down and keep working, stand patient because your time will come.

SPEAKER_00

Man, that's that's that's great advice. How 18 or 19 years old? That's pretty good advice for a 19-year-old. So I've got one closing question, but before we get to the closing questions, you've been kind of forewarned about this. We have a rapid fire section. Okay. So uh I've got and actually I have more of these than I did regular questions because I just started thinking of you and your dad and just my knowing you guys. Uh, and so there's some stuff in here that I I kind of came up with. So, first one, favorite position on the field. Midfield. Midfield. Your dad was a goalie in college, high school, 10 shots on goal. How many times would you score on him? 10. 10 out of 10. Okay, I'd like to hear that. Best sporting event or sporting weekend you've ever had. And I better be a part of that.

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Yeah, yeah. Uh was it 2017?

SPEAKER_00

I mean, I don't even remember. You were little though, dude.

SPEAKER_02

I was like, whatever, but Saturday, honorary captain at the Charlotte Hornets versus the uh gosh, who are they playing? I don't know. Trailblazers. Trailblazers, that's right. Because it got to shake uh Damian Lillard's hand and Frank Kaminsky's hand.

SPEAKER_00

And you were about as tall at that age as as Damian Lillard. No, I'm just missing. You got to go mid-court, you got the jersey, and you got to go and shake their hands, right?

SPEAKER_02

Shake their hands, yep.

SPEAKER_00

And then that's a great time.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, but you top bit how. And then Sunday, the next day, going to Panthers Pack, they played the Packers. Panthers, Packers game, and uh got a football from Cam Newton. Went down right there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

They took the picture. We were sitting there in the end zone, and like five minutes later, after you got it, we were getting text bombed. You were of people sending us pictures, you were grinning at ear from ear to ear. Yeah. So talk about that experience. This is I'm kind of regressing rapid fire. Talk about the first chance that you had to go to a to an NFC playoff game against with the Dallas Cowboys. First, so the first time you you ever went to the Panthers game, you went with with Gray and I and your dad, and we have pretty good seats. First 10 rows in the end zone. We have to go on the field. We got to go to the field too. Oh, we got to go on the field too. Okay, yeah, I forgot about that. So you got kind of uh you were you were VIP in it, right? Yeah. Yeah. Then your dad hit you up, and for Christmas, he's gonna buy you some tickets to go see Dallas, who is his favorite team, play against the Panthers in the NFC championship, right? But the seats were not quite as good, right? No. What did you ask him?

SPEAKER_02

I said where we sitting.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, he asked where you were sitting, right?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and he said we're sitting at the very top, and I was like, uh uh, can we just throw a party instead?

SPEAKER_00

I'm glad to know that I taught you right early, man. That that that's good. All right. Pregame ritual soccer. You got any pregame rituals? Um you got a favorite song, you listen to music. What's your go-to tunes on tunes playing soccer when you're warming up? Do you have anything?

SPEAKER_02

It just depends on how I'm feeling.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

But most most I would say mostly like rap.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. Favorite soccer player growing up?

SPEAKER_02

Messi.

SPEAKER_00

Messi. God, he's still playing, man. Best goal you ever scored.

SPEAKER_02

Uh free kick against J Rose my senior year. Was that during the season or in playoffs? During the season. Okay. We didn't score on them in my senior year. I mean, during playoffs. Oh, really?

SPEAKER_00

They blank jumped. Okay. Toughest opponent you faced individually or as a team. And you play some good soccer now, academy, high school, and that and now you know in college.

SPEAKER_02

College too?

SPEAKER_00

Either or, man. Uh NC Wesley and then they were good.

SPEAKER_02

They were good.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

They they they have a lot of internationals.

SPEAKER_00

Do they? Okay. Uh favorite professional soccer team outside of college? Right now?

SPEAKER_02

Man United.

SPEAKER_00

Man. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I knew that. You get it honest. Most memorable teammate in high school, and why?

SPEAKER_02

Slay and Slay Owens. Just because like our our chemistry on the field.

SPEAKER_00

So And you guys were buddies. You you b you guys were friends on the field and off the field, right? Yeah. Favorite high school subject?

SPEAKER_02

Math.

SPEAKER_00

Math. One piece of advice that you remember that either a teacher slash professor, coach, or mentor has given you.

SPEAKER_02

I I heard the be comfortable being uncomfortable being coming. Okay, you heard that from someone.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. If you were playing soccer, what sport would you play?

SPEAKER_02

I liked baseball. Did you? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Alright. Well, I won't hold that against you. That's all right. Uh one word to describe your college career so far.

SPEAKER_02

Adventurous?

SPEAKER_00

Adventurous. Yeah. That's good. Last closing question, not rap not rapid fire. When you hear the phrase homegrown, what does it mean to you knowing that everything started here in Jacksonville?

SPEAKER_02

Uh it gives the feeling of like it started here, like we came from here. Yeah. And then there's that implied like never forget where you came from.

SPEAKER_00

That's awesome, man. Thank you, buddy. That was awesome. Thank you. That was awesome. That was awesome. So Nate Mahalchick's journey has been one shaped by family, community, and a love for the game. From growing up on the Jacksville High School sidelines, learning from his dad and soaking in the spirit of the Cardinals to stepping onto the college field at Methodist University. Even while sitting out this season, his passion, resilience, and connection to home remains as strong as ever. It's inspiring too to see so many young athletes from Oslo County carrying their love for the sport forward together at the next level, bringing with them the same pride, grit, and hometown spirit that shaped each of them. To those watching, that's exactly what Homegrown celebrates. Athletes who chase big dreams while never forgetting the place that made them who they are. I'm Steve Goodson, and this has been Homegrown Real Athletes, Real Stories, Big Dreams. No matter how far their journey takes them, their roots always come with them. Thanks. Support for Homegrown is provided by Humphrey Heating and Air Condition, proudly serving Eastern North Carolina since nineteen sixty-seven.