Let's get Irish Giggy with It

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Hey basties! Welcome to Plot Twists and Punchlines, the podcast where we bring you laughs, comfort, and questionable takes.

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I'm Steph. And I'm Mel. Two best friends here to distract you from the world and talk about life books and everything in between.

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So grab your blanket, your drinks, and your emotional support book, boyfriend. And let's get into today's episode. Happy St. Paddy's Day. Happy St.

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Patrick's Day.

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We got matching getup last time we were at Walmart together. And green is not my collar, guys. I hate this hat. I look awful. Um, and also my headphones don't fit under the hat. So this is just a sensory overload. It's too much. It's amazing. It's too much. But I didn't do my hair today because I thought I was wearing a hat. So I'm committed. I am committed to the bit. I am this is just what I'm gonna look like. Committed to the bit.

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Happy St. Patrick's Day, guys!

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Happy St. Patrick's Day.

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I am Irish in case it wasn't obvious.

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I am not in case that wasn't obvious.

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Yes, my uh my relatives came over after the potato famine.

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Oh, they came to take our potatoes. Yeah, we were starving. This is what they're talking about, immigrants.

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We were starving.

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Okay. I'm just joking. The white immigrants are allowed. Just joking.

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I'm sorry. I'm just joshing.

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Just joshing. So we were going to record this episode last night and we were gonna drink apple teenies and it was gonna be a cute little moment. And then you'll hear in next week's episode.

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Oh yeah. In the last episode we recorded, I was gonna talk about the um recording schedule. But I completely forgot that I said that and I just didn't. So we're gonna talk about it now, which is perfect because the episode we're recording right now is actually coming out before that episode. Right. So so the way that we record now, as you guys know, we record Sunday and then we release it Wednesday. Tuesday for Patreon. Tuesday for Patreon. That doesn't give me a lot of time to edit, um, especially because uh this is the first time I ever like edited anything. I'm not the best at it, so it takes me a long time to do it. So we decided to start recording a week before, and to do that, we had to record two episodes this week. Right. So we recorded episode um, so this would be oh, I labeled them wrong on my computer.

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Yeah, I would just thought that too.

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Yeah, so this is actually gonna be episode seven, and then the one we recorded last night was gonna be episode eight. Right. And the reason we recorded it that way, we were planning on being Irish and drinking during this episode. Um, you guys will hear in the last episode. Yeah, we had a very long day yesterday. Nothing bad happened. We just had a busy day doing non-podcast things. We got tattoos.

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Yes, we hang out as best friends. We do doing podcastings. Yeah, we we are actually friends. It's real. The relationship is real. It is.

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Um, and then we got so busy and so distracted yesterday that we didn't start recording the first episode. Well, because we wanted to record the first one sober and then this one drunk, and okay, we didn't want to be drunk on two episodes. We didn't finish recording the episode last night until midnight, and my daughter refused to sleep while we were out here recording, you know, FOMO.

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Yeah. So we were tired. We were really tired, guys. We're in our 30s, so we can't stay up past midnight, which is crazy because I was up until 4 a.m.

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Yeah, but you were on your phone like doom scrolling. I was up till like 3 a.m. on my phone. Like I just needed to brain rot. Yep. Yeah. So plus we were we honestly were exhausted. Like we finished the episode before, and we were about to start recording this one, and I just looked at her and closing out the last episode because you know how we have our clothes out. I literally I couldn't even get through it. Like I was like slurring my work. It was she opened the belt and nothing came out. I was just like, so we were beyond exhausted by that point, and we were like, you know what? We need to sleep, and then we'll record this in the morning and stuff. So then she slept over, and then we just stayed awake for hours. We just couldn't be we just weren't up for recording both episodes last night. So here we are, and it is 10 30 um and we got vodka. We didn't get Irish cream, so we are not drinking.

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Oh today is brought to you Dang, not sponsored by Dunkin' Donuts.

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They should sponsor us because of so much money recording this podcast.

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Are we still not super feeling it? So sorry if we're not. Um usual selves.

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Um I gotta take this hat off.

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Take it off, girl. I am committed. I again was expecting to wear the hat, so my hair is not done.

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My hair doesn't done by any means.

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But yours still looks good. Because my hair is so thin.

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I don't have a lot of it.

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I have a lot of hair, and my hair tangles just by breathing, so my behaves for the most part.

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I will say, I do like my hair.

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Last time I went to get my haircut, she brushed my hair, and of course it was like all tangled from walking from the car to inside. Yeah, she brushed it, and then she went, put the brush down. I also got highlights, um, mixed up the color, came back, and she was like, I thought I brushed your hair.

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You did, girl.

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I'm like, it just tangles for fun. There are like bunnies up there. I don't know. I just so yeah, she had to brush it twice. Like in the time it took her to just go mixed, you had to rebrush it because it was so tangled. That's crazy. If anybody knows how to fix that, please help a girl out because I look cranky danky all day, every day, because I I'm sick of my hair. And I also really like the way uh short hair just doesn't look good on me either.

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So today we are obviously gonna be talking about St. Patrick's Day, and we're gonna talk about the history. But because we're not like other podcasts, we're obviously gonna be talking about the lore, the folklore, the fairies, the leprechauns, the others. There's a lot of podcasts to talk about that stuff. The others.

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Okay, but none that are true. But my segment was supposed to be a fun game. It was supposed to be like drunken history, but with like Irish folklore. So I have changed my mind. I'm gonna get drunk at 10:30. Give me a bomb.

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I love this thing. That one was yours too. Just chugging it down. I haven't eaten today.

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This will do it.

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Yeah, it'll be quick. Okay, so uh history of St. Patrick's Day, obviously celebrated on March 17th, originated as a 10th century Irish religious feast day honoring St. Patrick, who brought Christianity to Ireland in the 5th century. And uh the legend has it that he used three-leaved shamrock to explain the Holy Trinity, Father, Son, Holy Spirit.

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Um we're supposed to um refrigerate these after opening because these have been out uh all night. No, it's fine. Oh, it's alcohol, never mind. Yeah, anyway.

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So he uh theory has it that he used the three-leaf shamrock to represent the Holy Trinity, Father, Son, Holy Spirit. Um, and then another myth claims he drove all snakes out of Ireland, symbolizing the removal of paganism. Um, which is interesting because paganism has kind of come back now. Um so some things associated with St. Patrick's Day, wearing green, while originally St. Patrick's Day was associated with blue, um, green became popular in the 1798 Irish Rebellion to represent Irish nationalism. Why was it about blue originally? Is there like a history about that? I don't know. Okay. Yeah, I didn't see anything about that. Um but wearing green is also tied to the folklore that it makes you invisible to leprechauns. Why does it make you invisible? Don't they wear green? Yeah, I think maybe it's like a green screen effect. Oh, or maybe they see you wearing green and they think you're one of them. Maybe. Oh, potentially, yeah. Okay, yeah. So some typical things that are like popular with Irish culture on St. Patrick's Day. Um, something called drowning the shamrock, which is a tradition of putting a shamrock into a glass of whiskey before drinking it. Um and that stems from a legend of St. Patrick teaching an innkeeper to be more generous. Yeah. Um, so if St. Patrick used three-leaf clovers, why is the four-leaf clover the lucky one? So mostly it's because they're rare. Yes, they're very rare. It's actually a genetic mutation that um is super, super rare. And it only happens in like really um like healthy soil, fertile soil. Um it auxo it also came from um ancient druids or Celtic priests who um looked at four-relief clovers as powerful protective charms. Um, and they believed that carrying one would grant the ability to see evil spirits or forest malevolence coming, um, allowing them to escape in time. And in the Middle Ages, children believed carrying one would allow them to see the Fae. Yeah. So that's kind of fun. Um, and then another theory about the four-leaf clover is uh um comes from one Christian legend which suggests that when Eve was cast out of the Garden of Eden, she took a four-leaf clover as a souvenir of paradise, making it a literal piece of heaven on earth. So nice. That's kind of why we like four-leaf clovers. Um, but have you found one before? No, not organically. I found one because someone else found one and was like, look what I found.

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I think I've only found one my whole life.

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Yeah, but usually, um, like the people who are gonna find them are probably like farmers.

SPEAKER_01 11:04

That makes sense because they have uh fertile growth soil.

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Yeah, exactly. Um so uh speaking of a leprechaun. Um leprechauns are like forest fee, they're a type of fairy. Um so traditional Irish Fae were said to make shoes for other wee folk. Um, and the sound of their tiny hammers is how they were heard in traditional lore.

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Cute.

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Yeah. Um, they are mischievous tricksters, and lore says if captured by a human, they are bound to grant three wishes. So kind of like a genie. And then, like I mentioned earlier, they are also why we wear green um to make you invisible to leprechauns, and that's where the pinching comes in. So they say that if you don't wear green, you're not invisible and they'll pinch you. Uh-huh. Yeah.

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I heard that uh leprechauns are like like tricksters, kind of like genies. Yes. I wonder if genies are based off of leprechauns.

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I don't know. Maybe they all happen at the same time and it's just different culture. Maybe. Or perhaps. But I hate the pinching on St. Patrick's Day. I it used to piss me off so much in school when people would be like, You're not wearing green. Pinch pinch. I've never been pinched.

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Maybe you need new friends. I never we didn't do the pinching.

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Like, yeah, you know, we were supposed like friends would like jokingly pinch not to hurt, but right. That was never really a thing in my school.

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No, it was well, I don't know if it was a school-wide thing. My friends and I were kind of weird, but we were band kids. I explained.

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What did you play? I played the flute. Nice. I I was percussion. That makes sense. I was horrible at it. Somebody once told me that it sounded like somebody just dropped their drumstick on the drum, and that's how I played. That's so mean. I still remember that, Brian.

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Shut up, Brian, for being a bitch.

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God, you should just change your name to Connor. You'll get that next week.

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Yeah, you and Connor would be best friends.

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Can I have a coffee? Yeah. In case you guys were uh wondering, I took two sips and was like, ah, not gonna drink. I think we can back to my coffee.

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It's just drunk to be a drunk history without being drunk. Uh everything I say sounds like drunk history. So um yeah, I played uh I was actually really good at the flute. Humble brag. Yeah. Um, so there are some other Irish Fae that have been confused for leprechauns, um, which I thought was really interesting because I read books about fairies, you read books about fairies, fay. Um, and some of these are like they've been uh um brought to American culture. So so other Irish Fae that are confused for leprechauns. Um the first one is the Cluricon or the Tipsy Cousin. Um me. Yeah. I'm just joking. I don't drink a lot. I have a lot of tipsy cousins. I have over a hundred Irish cousins. My mom does a history. Um actually in Ireland right now, there's still a bar that is named after my family. The Batterberry Bar. Yeah.

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One day we should go to Ireland and go there.

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We should.

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It was I wonder if we get to drink for free.

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Probably not. It was, I was just gonna say it was originally it was owned for a long time by my family members up until quite recently.

SPEAKER_02 14:32

Oh, so you guys don't own it anymore.

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No, no, it's but it's still named We cannot the Batterberry. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Um so the tipsy cousin is just like the uh a wee folk that instead of like being a trickster, he's just more interested in drinking. Um and then there's something called the Far Darig, which is actually the original leprechaun story, and then they were like, no, that's not a leprechaun. So the far darig translates to the red man. Um and traditionally people were like leprechauns wear red coats and they were like lace caps, red. Um, they were into gruesome practical jokes. So regular leprechauns. So they're like vampire leprechauns, yeah. Kind of. Yeah, yeah. So uh regular leprechauns are just gonna like I don't know if you out there know anything about like, you know, Faye or anything, but the lore is that they just come in and they'll like hide your items or they'll like create little annoyances in your life, right? So that's what leprechauns do. The uh red man or the Fardari.

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Isn't that gremlins? Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

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Okay.

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They're all kind of one and the same. Yeah. Um, so the the red men, so the gruesome practical jokes were um like pretending to be a corpse to scare travelers. That's amazing. Yeah. I thought about you when I was reading about these. Actually, I think you would be a fardaric. Um, and then uh not not for this reason though, I don't think you would do this. So they were also known to replace human babies with changelings.

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Ooh.

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Yeah.

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There was a true crime case where oh my god, I don't remember what country it is it was in, but the the whole community thought that this woman was chain was like a chainling, so they locked her up and they starved her and they refused to feed her and they like whipped her in a like including the priests.

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Yeah.

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They would go and they would beat her and they refused to let her eat or stuff until she died. Yeah. And when she died, she didn't like go back to the face, so she was human.

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Go figure.

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Weird. A woman has an opinion. She's a changeling. Yeah.

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How often has that happened in history? Witches.

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Chainlings. I don't remember. I my phone is recording, so I can't look at any details.

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There's also a movie called The Changeling, or maybe just Changeling with Angelina Jolie, where um she has a son, Walter, who uh goes missing, and then like a few days later the police are like, Oh, we found your son, and she's like, This is not my son. Like, so everyone thought that she was crazy because uh she was like, This is not my son, this is not Walter. And it was very clear in the audio like from an audience perspective that that was not her son. Like he looked nothing like her son prior. And they were like, Well, it's been a little bit since you've seen him, and you know, you're under distress, all the typical, oh silly woman, the police did the right thing. Like, we're right, you're wrong. Take care of this boy.

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That reminds me of another true crime case. I wonder if it's based off of this one. So this little boy went missing. I don't remember anybody's name. I'm so sorry, guys. I'm horrible with names. Um, but this little boy went missing, and then this guy from France, this adult man, got arrested and was like, I'm their son.

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Like he I heard about that.

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Yes, that guy's on TikTok now. What? Yeah. Wow. But yeah. So for the people who haven't heard about this, this like adult got arrested in France, and then so he pretended to be a kid, and he was like, I was kidnapped and I was sexually trafficked. Like I'm a um sex traffic, like sex traffic victim. Somebody kidnapped me from America, put me here. And the reason I have an accent is because if I didn't speak with a perfect French accent, they used to beat me. So that's why my English is broken.

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And they believed him.

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Yes. And then he had a different eye color, and they were like, Yeah, they put chemicals in my eyes to change my eye color so no one would find me.

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Oh my gosh. Professional liar.

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Yeah, and the way he like found this kid in America is because when he was arrested, he was like, I have to call some people. Would you mind if I call them in private? Because this is gonna be like a really hard conversation. And what he did was he took the police phone, pretended to be a police officer with his adult voice, and was just calling random cities in um America, like police departments. Like, do you have any kids that fit this description? Oh. So, and it was like a long time ago, so all of the pictures were black and white. Oh, yeah. So they sent not that long ago because he's still alive. Right. Um, so they sent a picture of this kid. He was black and white, so he didn't realize that he didn't look that similar to him, like the different eye color and stuff. Oh my god. And then his family took him in. Wow. And then the brother was like, This or someone in the family was like, This is not the same kid. And the parents were like, We're not doing any testing, that's our kid.

SPEAKER_03 20:07

That's crazy. Yeah, that is crazy.

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So it was really weird. That just like but that like entire movie, I feel like it's probably based off of the story.

SPEAKER_03 20:15

Well, in in the movie, it wasn't um, like the eye color wasn't different. He just looked to be much older and bigger than her original son. And the one thing that she was like, okay, this for sure isn't my son, the boy that they brought back was circumcised, and her son wasn't, and they still didn't believe her in the movie. Weird. She like ended up being committed to the psych ward, and she had um lobotomy, no brain electroshock therapy. So yeah, that that movie was crazy. I remember watching that.

SPEAKER_02 20:51

I've never heard of this movie before. I kind of want to watch it now.

SPEAKER_03 20:54

This one's yeah, it's it's kind of boring in the beginning, uh but you need the story. Okay. So yeah, I I would watch it. Um so then uh other Faye that were um mistaken for leprechauns, we have the Puka or the Shapeshifter, um, destroys crops and kidnaps people wandering alone at night. Um, farmers would even leave a Puka's share of the harvest to appease them. Oh. And then the next two are things that we probably know. Okay. So you'll probably know. So the Banshee um is a fairy. Um the Banshee is also I think. The Harbinger. Oh, the Puka. Yeah. Yeah. I've heard the name. Yeah. But um so she is a harbinger of death. Now she gets a little bit m misconstrued as um a fairy who brings death. She does not bring death, she uh delivers news to families that a family member is going to be is going to die. Um and the wailing, which is also called her keen. Um, is like the warning sign of a family like death to come.

SPEAKER_02 22:05

That is not how uh Banshee was depicted in Charmed. Do you ever charmed?

SPEAKER_03 22:10

I never watched it. But I know that the ma Arya's mom from Pretty Little Liars was Piper. Piper. Yeah. That's all I know.

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Next episode, she will have watched an episode. I got you guys. Don't worry. Okay. Um, but yeah, Pipe Piper actually gets turned into a banshee in that show. Okay. Um, that's not how they are depicted. Actually, um when originally I was gonna do something else for my segment. I was gonna talk about um good luck charms, and you specifically wanted to know about the Celtic Knaw, and I got so excited because the Celtic knot is the symbol for the Charm Sisters.

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Oh, that's crazy. So I had like this whole section about charms in my section before I erased it. Um I don't know if there's a right or wrong way to say it. I say Celtic. I don't know. Celtic knot. I have a Celtic knot tattoo on me, and that's why I wanted to learn about it because I got this specifically because. Okay, that's not the one I'm talking about. I'm talking about the three yeah, yeah. There's a more traditional. This is like a I mean, there's a bunch of different knots. Yes. Celtic knot, whatever. Whatever you want to say. I don't know. I'm not offended.

SPEAKER_02 23:18

There is a correct way to say it, and I'm so sorry if I'm offending you guys. Um don't be offended. Celtic.

SPEAKER_03 23:23

Don't be little weirdos.

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If I'm mispronouncing your culture, you're allowed to be offended. It is okay.

unknown 23:31

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 23:32

Sorry, just let me know. Um, so and then the Banshee is also depicted as a withered hag um wearing white. So that is accurate. That's how she appears. But I'm charmed. Well, again. Um, and then the last one is the the Dullahan or the Headless Rider.

SPEAKER_02 23:53

So like the headless horseman?

SPEAKER_03 23:55

Exactly. Yep. So he was thought to be the inspiration for the headless horseman. He rides a black horse and carries his own severed head. Um, and he has a whip made of a human spine. Hot. Yeah. Just a trip. When he stops riding out and calls a name, that person dies. Ooh. So those characters I volunteer as tribute. So those uh um were all uh Faye, keep in mind. Those those characters are all Faye.

SPEAKER_02 24:26

I never like considered uh the Headless Horseman as Faye, but that makes sense.

SPEAKER_03 24:30

Yeah. So and they were all like confused as leprechauns at first until they kind of gained their own. So that's a little bit about Irish history and the lower, and yeah. I have um one thing that I'm really interested in speaking of the Irish lore is like you've ever seen the TikToks where they find like fairy rings in the floors? Yes. Oh my gosh, they're so cute. I'm so cute.

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I found a fairy ring once. A mushroom in a perfect circle. Yep. I stood in the middle of it. Tamlin, Rizand.

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Nothing. Where are you? Nothing.

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I'm not good enough.

SPEAKER_03 25:10

Wow. That's crazy.

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I would have taken us Tamlin to get into the fairy realm.

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Anything to get into the fairy realm. And then I said I stood in the middle of it.

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Um, I don't know, you guys are gonna yell at me for standing in the middle of it. Yeah. I wanted to go, okay. We were she was begging. Please don't. That was so long ago. Um but yeah, yeah. I love those TikToks. Me too. Uh have you ever seen it? Speaking of TikTok. Oh, sorry, go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 25:40

Sorry. Uh one more thing. Have you ever seen the ones of like when people find random staircases in the forest? Don't climb them. Don't climb them.

SPEAKER_02 25:48

I know you wouldn't. I I wouldn't now, but at the time in my life where I was standing in fairy ring.

SPEAKER_03 25:57

That's the same time you would have climbed a random staircase.

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100%. And the random doors that you find.

SPEAKER_03 26:02

Yes. I would have I've been to um eat. I've been to Madame Cherie's staircase.

SPEAKER_02 26:09

No, I haven't. That's what's cool.

SPEAKER_03 26:11

Yeah, when I lived in New England.

SPEAKER_02 26:13

There is a staircase not too far from here. It's in Indiana. Um, we're at the very bottom of Michigan.

SPEAKER_03 26:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:19

Um, we're here.

SPEAKER_03 26:23

We can do this.

SPEAKER_02 26:25

Um, in Indiana, there's supposed to be the staircase that you can climb. I think I sent it to you once. Maybe. Um, or somebody else. I don't know. Somebody.

SPEAKER_03 26:36

Uh you have other friends?

SPEAKER_02 26:38

Nope. Unacceptable. So there's a staircase in Indiana that you're supposed to be able to go down, but you're when you start going down, you're not allowed to like turn around or something. And when you get to the bottom, you're supposed to find out like when or how you die or something like that. I don't want to do that. I want to do it so bad.

SPEAKER_03 27:06

No, I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_02 27:06

Something like that. I'm gonna I'll do more research and I will come back to you guys. I'll put like an insert at the end of the episode if I remember. I don't want to do it. Yeah. Anyways, we're gonna do that soon.

unknown 27:20

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 27:21

Um, but speaking of TikToks, have you seen the Dolphin Man? No. What are you talking about? Oh my god. You need to get on my side of TikTok.

SPEAKER_03 27:35

Yeah, I'm still on political TikTok. Like I am trying to scroll past these things as soon as I see them, and it's just like, nope, you need to be informed.

SPEAKER_02 27:45

Okay, so and you should be informed, guys.

SPEAKER_03 27:48

Yes, very important. Stay informed. Stay informed. Enough is enough. Give me some like fun stuff in between.

SPEAKER_02 27:55

Yes, for sure. On Monday in shoot, I don't remember where. Is it Florida? Yes, for sure, Florida. Of course. I can't remember. I think Lee Lee County. In Lee County, Florida. Okay. A man was found drawing blueprints into the sand. He was found like on the shores of the ocean drawing blueprints into the sand. And a cop, a county sheriff, was like, what are you doing? And he was like, I was just kidnapped by dolphins. Don't laugh.

SPEAKER_03 28:31

Okay, sorry. Okay. That's too late.

SPEAKER_02 28:36

So he and they're like, What do you mean? And he was like, I was just swimming, and this dolphin came up to me, and he was like clicking at me, and then he circled me, and then sorry.

SPEAKER_03 28:50

You just wait, you just clicking at me got me a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 28:53

And then more dolphins came, and then more dolphins came, and they just kept pushing me deeper and deeper into the ocean. And then I got to the bottom, and they were forcing me to build structures for them. What? So the cop was like, let's go to the hospital. Yeah. I'm gonna get you tested.

SPEAKER_03 29:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:13

Zero drugs, zero alcohol in his system. Nothing. No, but what they did find was bacteria from the bottom of the ocean in his lungs. How did he live? When they asked him, how are you breathing? Because he said that he was under there for three days. What? Like they he had a lot of the bacteria. Like he was there for a long time, he was under the water for a very long time. And and it was only from the certain spot, like in the ocean where he was describing. Okay. And when they asked him, like, how did you breathe? He was like, Gerald took care of it.

SPEAKER_03 29:54

Who is Gerald?

SPEAKER_02 29:56

The leader of the dolphin pod. He was a dolphin. And he was like, they would communicate with me through clicks.

SPEAKER_03 30:04

Oh my god. I'm laughing because I'm like a little uncomfortable. There's why is there like some merit to that?

SPEAKER_02 30:15

They were like, Well, how are you building structures? They were like, Well, they were communicating me through clicks. At first, I didn't know what they wanted, but eventually I just learned it. Weirda. And they were like, Well, what did you build these structures out of? He was like, coral. And then they looked, and like he had the coral on him. Like on like the particles of this coral. And then he they were like, How did you know how to build it? He was like, I have a degree in bioengineering in aquatics. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Stop. That's crazy. So after three days, they kind of released him and they were like, and Gerald told him, We'll be back for you. Ew. Did they test him for like mental health? Not for mental health, but like he's never had a mental break before, and he had no drugs, no alcohol. He only had like the ocean part, like from that area. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 31:13

I mean, logic tells you, you know, uh he should be tested for mental health issues, but the fact that he had the bacteria in his lungs, the coral, that's crazy. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:28

And he had like a lot like he was under the water for a long time. Yeah. That's insane. And then when the blueprints he was drawing in the sand were for like four, the structures that he was building under the water.

SPEAKER_03 31:40

That's crazy. That has someone someone needs to dive down there and see if there's structures being built. That would be cool.

SPEAKER_02 31:48

Um that's crazy. And when these first started all over when I first like saw people talking about this all over TikTok, I saw like news articles about it. They were like, it was like screenshots of like real news articles. And then yesterday when we were at the tattoo shop, I saw a few TikToks about it, and they're gone. All of the news articles about them are gone. What? And the Lee County Sheriff was like, hey guys, this was a hoax. Nobody was ever found on the beach. But I still have the TikTok saved.

SPEAKER_03 32:24

Okay. Oh, I am looking this up while you keep talking. That is crazy.

SPEAKER_02 32:30

Yeah, I can't believe I haven't seen anything about that. I know. It was, it's been all over TikTok. But now they're like, no, this host doesn't exist outside of TikTok. You guys are just making this up. And then I like Googled it, and it's the only thing you see when you Google Dolphin Man, the only thing you see is news articles calling it a hook.

SPEAKER_03 32:49

So you don't see any of the original news articles. That's true. That's true. I'm literally looking at right now. Uh viral dolphin kidnapping arrest story is fake. Lee County deputies say um no, dolphins didn't kidnap a Florida man. Fake viral story explained. Explain it to me.

SPEAKER_02 33:08

I swear I saw real news articles about it in screenshots. Of course, screenshots can be faked. Sure. They can be.

SPEAKER_03 33:18

Oh my god. I hate when news articles are like pay$11.99 to finish reading. No. God, this is why we're so misinformed.

SPEAKER_02 33:28

But yeah, that is the story of the dolphin man that has been all over TikTok. Is it a hoax? Is it not a hoax? I want to believe with every fiber of my being that this is real. Do I believe it's real?

unknown 33:40

No.

SPEAKER_02 33:44

I wanted to believe it's real, but that's so bad. But like honestly, it would make sense. Did you know? I just recently found out about this. Did you know it's illegal to talk to dolphins? Mm-mm.

SPEAKER_03 33:55

Like in English or Yeah, you're not allowed to talk to them.

SPEAKER_02 33:59

Because there used to be an experiment that was funded by the US where we where they were trying to um communicate with dolphins. We were trying to teach dolphins English.

SPEAKER_03 34:11

That sounds good.

SPEAKER_02 34:12

And one of the dolphins and one of the researches fell in love and they were having sex. So they had to stop the project, and the dolphin I think committed suicide after the researcher stopped talking to me.

SPEAKER_03 34:31

I'm pretty sure there was a Family Guy episode about that. I don't watch Family Guy episode. I don't either, but I feel like I remember seeing one about that. Yeah. So this particular article is saying the viral report provided specific details about the man's encounter. He was found on a beach very sunburned. Um, the false post states that the animals forced him to draw blueprints. Uh, looked into the claims after they were widely shared on social media. The agency confirmed that its records showed no such incident took place and no arrests matching that description occurred.

SPEAKER_01 35:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:11

Wow. That's crazy. Yep. That's insane. You know, um, I uh used to have dreams pretty frequently. Not about dolphins, but I used to have dreams pretty frequently that I could breathe underwater. And it was uh it was one of it was those dreams that are like very vivid and uh it felt real and in the dream I would be like at the bottom of a pool and uh I would be like, Oh my god, I I'm gonna drown. I can't like I can't be under here anymore. And then in the dream I'd be like, Oh wait, I can breathe underwater. And so I I I would. And uh it felt kind of like pressure, but I could breathe. It was really weird.

SPEAKER_02 35:53

Have you ever heard of the aquatic ape theory?

SPEAKER_03 35:56

No.

SPEAKER_02 35:56

Okay. So this theory, some people use it to um confirm like the existence of mermaids, and some people just say like this makes sense, like this is why there's mammals in the water. So the aquatic ape theory is you know the primates that humans um descend from? Yeah. I think they're called homo. Yeah. Them. So the ones before them, so who they evolved from, there's a theory that they lived near the ocean, which we do, and that something happened and half of them had so it was like they were, you know, the animals that live like in water and out of water? Yeah, they were like that. Okay. So the theory is that half of them went deeper into land and half of them stayed in the water.

SPEAKER_03 36:50

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 36:51

And the ones that stayed in the water evolved into water animals that were like primate and like mammals living in the water. Yeah. Okay. And that explained and we evolved from them, not the ones that went deeper into the ocean. The the no into the land. Oh we evolved from the ones that stayed half in the water, half out. And that's why we are so much more similar to that's why, not so much more similar, but that's why we're so similar to aquatic mammals. Huh. Like we're not hairy like land mammals, we have skin like water mammals and like light hair like they do. That's why our um not thorax, Lorax. Lyrynx? Lyrynx is in the same place that a whale's and dolphins are.

SPEAKER_03 37:47

Not really. I didn't know that. Yeah, not how um primates.

SPEAKER_02 37:52

Primates are.

SPEAKER_03 37:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:53

And our communication is a lot more like dolphins than they are like monkeys. Yes. And people say in the ones who believe um mermaids evolved from these, like that's what mermaids are, um they kind of so there's I want to say it's in South America, there's a pod of dolphins who will come up to humans and will help them. So if the humans will just go in the water with a net, and the dolphins will round up a bunch of fish and put them in the net for them. Oh like they help them fish, and they will do it with not just the same humans, with like anybody who goes. They just trust humans. And nobody trained them to do this, they just started doing this. And people are like, dolphins have always been like really nice to humans. There has to be something in the water that looks like us.

SPEAKER_03 38:52

I mean, I I would believe it. Yeah, like almost all of our oceans are unexplored.

SPEAKER_02 38:57

So 80% of them are.

SPEAKER_03 38:58

Yeah, there's gotta be something that looks like us down there. That's crazy. That's a wild theory.

SPEAKER_02 39:03

That is, that is the aquatic ape theory.

SPEAKER_03 39:05

Um, I believe that some people at this point in the world though evolved from like I would believe that there are portions of people who are evolved from water mammals and uh portions of people who are evolved from land apes, land uh primates because of how hairy some people are. You said that all I could think about is not all people are silky smooth.

SPEAKER_02 39:30

So I that is a wily, and there is so much more to it than I just said. I'm just a dumb bitch who remembers some things. Um if you guys are interested in it, go research more about it. I was super interested in it for a while.

SPEAKER_03 39:47

Um, but I don't I don't Huh. Interesting. Yeah. I also see on here that you're gonna talk about Nessie. Was this your drunken?

SPEAKER_02 39:57

Yes. So my plan was to have um a drunk, like a drunk history with the theories of Nessie and like the reasons behind the theories.

SPEAKER_03 40:06

Okay, gotcha.

SPEAKER_02 40:07

But I'm just gonna explain them to you because I didn't want to drink at 1030. That is not my phone. Nope, that's mine.

unknown 40:12

Dr.

SPEAKER_02 40:13

Saipad. So I'm gonna start with one of my favorite theories that Nessie is a Pleosaurus, a dinosaur. I know I'm not saying that right, guys, okay? Don't come at me. Just nicely tell me how to say it. I feel like that's the most common. Yeah. So some people think that it that she is a modern day pleosaurus dinosaur. Dinosaur.

SPEAKER_03 40:48

Water dinosaur.

SPEAKER_02 40:49

Um that she evolved from like a group of them that didn't go extinct, that like survived and then evolved into her and that there's multiple of her. Okay. Um, some people think that I don't understand this one. People just think she is one, like she is the ancient dinosaur that just survived. Okay. I I'm not saying that that's wrong. I'm saying I don't think something that existed that long ago could exist today without reproducing. Not reproducing, without evolution. Like the world is not the way it was before.

SPEAKER_03 41:30

Like they I guess I don't understand the difference between the first and the second.

SPEAKER_02 41:36

So this like us, we are not the apes that we evolved from.

SPEAKER_03 41:43

Right.

SPEAKER_02 41:44

We are a modern version of that.

SPEAKER_03 41:47

So the first one is saying that. Yeah, we're the modern version of the Pleiosaurus. Yes. The second one is it's just the Pleasaurus. Okay, got it.

SPEAKER_02 41:56

Which I don't that was millions of years ago. There's it's just the world is so different, I don't think it would survive. I agree with that. Um, and it's always been disproven by that by saying plosauruses, pleosauruses, whatever, only lived in salt water. So the lachness is straight freshwater. Oh. But in July of 2022, they found ancient plasaurus bones in an ancient Moroccan freshwater river. Oh. So they did live in freshwater, not many of them, but some did. So that could be the one that evolved that that they evolved from.

SPEAKER_00 42:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:37

Whoa. So that is a very good theory. Um they have put drones in Lake N Lakiness many times. Uh no dinosaurs have been seen, but that doesn't mean they're there, not there. Right. Because the lake is over 9,000, over 900 feet deep. Deep. Yeah. Which doesn't sound like a lot, but that probably is a lot. Or a lake. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know how is how deep is our Great Lakes? Probably way more than that. I don't know. Let's see.

SPEAKER_03 43:05

I was I was just thinking like freshwater, like the Great Lakes, because that's the Great Great Lakes, yes.

SPEAKER_02 43:11

The Great Lakes actually have our own um sea monsters.

SPEAKER_03 43:15

Isn't that funny how the Midwest is like we have our own, like we have dog man, Michigan dogman. That's funny. So the Great Lakes range in maximum depth from 210 feet. So Lake Erie is actually the shallowest. Oh. And then uh Lake Superior is 1,333 feet deep.

SPEAKER_02 43:35

Oh, so it's actually not that much deeper than well, I guess 500 feet is a lot.

SPEAKER_03 43:40

Yeah, comparatively.

SPEAKER_02 43:41

But did you know that um in Lake Superior it's so cold that when people die in the lake, they form like a wax coating on them and they sink, they don't float, and that's why they say they don't give up their dead. Yeah, that's cool.

SPEAKER_03 44:01

Crazy. Crazy cool.

SPEAKER_02 44:02

So the second theory and my personal favorite theory. Okay. But you know what? Let me save that one. Okay. So the third theory and the funniest theory is that Lakiness is a whale penis.

SPEAKER_03 44:17

Just floating around, has its own mind.

SPEAKER_02 44:19

I mean They if you've ever seen a picture of an erect whale, you will see that they do look quite similar.

SPEAKER_03 44:28

You will never unsee it. But the lactus monster, like the pictures that you've seen in history, they're not that big.

SPEAKER_02 44:36

There are no whales in lakes. Let's just remember that, folks. Right. And that, and that. Don't know how that one is so popular when you remember that one fact. And I try I actually looked. I looked and I'm like, has there been whale sightings? Like, is that why where this came from? Like if ever even once there was a whale sighting that somehow a whale got there, I would I would put more merit to this. Sure.

SPEAKER_03 45:03

That's fine.

SPEAKER_02 45:04

They only say it is a whale penis because of the way it looks. No other reason. There has never been a whale. There are no freshwater whales.

SPEAKER_03 45:10

Right. That's not a thing.

SPEAKER_02 45:12

Yeah, so I love the theory, but it holds no water. No.

SPEAKER_03 45:17

Ha butum t. But um t.

SPEAKER_02 45:20

Number four. Lakiness is a giant eel.

SPEAKER_03 45:26

Nope, don't believe it.

SPEAKER_02 45:28

I I feel like I could tell you the research behind this, but it's pretty self-explanatory why they think it's a giant eel.

SPEAKER_03 45:33

I mean, I get it. It's the shape. But eels are usually flatter too.

SPEAKER_02 45:38

They are, and typically when like eels are out of water, they're not like Yeah, they're not, yeah. They're not like all of it. There's not like three bumps sticking out the way Lochnesses. Right.

SPEAKER_03 45:50

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 45:51

Number five, and the most common is that it's just its own creature, that it is a lakiness, that she is the one, the only, and that there's no more, and that she exists by herself in the lake. I don't believe that one because again, reproduction. I mean, there are a lot of asexual creatures, and most of them living in the ocean. So that is possible that she just reproduces herself. Huh. Um that is possible.

SPEAKER_03 46:20

Yeah. I don't know. I think it I think that something like that exists. I don't necessarily believe that it is a Lochness monster. I just I believe that there are creatures that big.

SPEAKER_02 46:30

Oh, I definitely believe it's creatures that big. I just don't believe that there's only one single one of them.

SPEAKER_03 46:36

No, I mean Yeah. Yeah, no, there has to be more, whether it be Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 46:40

In a different lake, something. I just I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 46:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 46:43

Um, and then my favorite theory is that Lakiness, the original pictures, the pictures that we all know and love, was an elephant.

SPEAKER_03 46:55

What? Underwater.

SPEAKER_02 46:57

Yes. Elephants swim. Yeah, I know they swim, but like have you ever seen a picture of an elephant sticking? It's have you ever seen a picture of an elephant swimming?

SPEAKER_03 47:08

I I mean I guess not. I don't know. But the lachness is so much bigger.

SPEAKER_02 47:16

Look at a picture of an elephant swimming.

SPEAKER_03 47:18

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 47:19

So that you can understand my theory. Okay. And I will put one up for Patreon. Okay. So when you look at an elephant swimming. Typically the trunk is out. So the trunk will be out, which would be its head. And then there's its head, and then its back. So those are the three lumps that you see in the picture. Okay. Keep that in mind. Okay. Okay. Let me go back to my notes. This theory came from a curator for paleontology named Neil Clark. So an expert has made this theory. Okay. His reasoning is that.

SPEAKER_03 48:07

Okay, I just found a picture that does Loki look like a Loch Nus monster. Yep. Like, that's a pretty good theory.

SPEAKER_02 48:14

Yep. And I'm gonna give Merit too. Okay. Neil Clark is gonna give merit to it, and I'm gonna talk it. Okay. I'm just gonna give him the credit. So in the early 1930s is when the height of the Loch Ness monster, like that's when the first sightings were seen. That's when the most sightings were seen. That's also when there was a traveling circus there. Oh the city. In 1933, which is when we got the famous picture, the one that you that we just like talked about. That was the same year that the A82 road was built that was running alongside the Loch Ness. That same year. Oh. Where they were traveling, they would have stopped to let the animals out to rest and to drink. They had elephants. That elephant would have swam there because that was the only fresh water for them to drink. That was large enough for an elephant to drink out of. Sure. Yeah. Okay. That same year, Bertram Mills offered 20,000 pounds or 1.8 million dollars in today's money for anybody who could capture the Lakeness monster so that he could bring them into his traveling circus to be part of the show.

SPEAKER_03 49:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 49:59

I believe that. That's an elephant. So Neil Clark's theory is that the Lochness Monster was marketing. Wow. It was all a gimmick so that people go to this traveling circus because the same time he was there, the same time his elephant was in the lake, is the same time people started seeing it. And when he was like, Oh, you guys saw this weird thing in the water? Well, come to my show. Like, find it. I will give you 1.8 million dollars.

SPEAKER_03 50:34

That's my favorite theory, too. That's totally what it is. That's totally what it is.

SPEAKER_02 50:39

And I know a lot of people are gonna hate me. I believe it.

SPEAKER_03 50:42

Yeah, I believe it.

SPEAKER_02 50:43

I believe it.

SPEAKER_03 50:44

That's so interesting. A lot of interesting things today. I didn't know a lot about that. So um no beef of the week this week because it's St. Patrick's Day.

SPEAKER_02 50:54

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 50:54

We're in a good mood.

SPEAKER_02 50:55

We don't want the leprechauns to come get us because we're complaining on their day. Yeah, no bad vibes today. Nope. I kind of wish we had good things to say this week. We didn't think that they're far ahead. We were just like, no beef, no beef. We're just we're happy. Um, no complaints. Yep. We're good. Um tattoos were good this week. Yes. Hanging out with you was fun.

SPEAKER_03 51:14

Yes, tattoos were good.

SPEAKER_02 51:16

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