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Episode 2: Why ēlia is a clean ingredient spa.

Nichole Nace Season 1 Episode 2

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ēlia's doors opened 9 years ago as the 1st clean ingredient spa in the area. This was no small feat as the beauty industry was not paying much attention to ingredients yet. My personal journey started in 2008 after my 1st son was born and I've been on this journey for a long time. There was a vast amount of trial and error the first several years. Hint...coconut oil is NOT hydrating, it actually dehydrates your skin! It's also never too late to start using clean ingredients.  If we've ever talked about clean living then you know that I use the phrase "you don't know what you don't know". Education is the key that unlocks the world. Once you have the information you can now make an informed decision. At ēlia, we do our best to make clean living as easy as possible. I do the research for you and dig into all the nitty gritty of product formulation to ensure we are bringing effective and clean ingredients to you. 

SPEAKER_00

Alright, welcome back to Spallowland, where we're talking about all things spa, life, whatever we find fun and interesting to chat about. Um, I've got my amazing friend Candice with me again today. Hello, hello. So thank you again for being here. Um, today, can you tell us a little bit of how you film these months?

SPEAKER_02

So if you listen to our most recent episode where Nicole talked about Spallowland and what it is and how you get there. And if you haven't listened, then you need to go back so you know what we're talking about. Because Spallowland is the best place to be. But I was in here on Monday giving a service done, and I was looking around the boutique, and I saw these mugs, and I was like, Oh, there's mugs to say Spallowland. And I was very disappointed that we didn't have them. Um, and I told the sweet girl that works at the front desk, and I was like, How are these here? And so I saw a picture and sending Nicole and say we need these. So I'm very happy that she has them up here today.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, we had these made like five or six years ago, and so we only have a few of them left. And um yeah, so we have our spallowland mugs today. Um inside them. So, what's inside our spallowland mugs? I went to Gather, which is like our local kitchen store um here on the square, and they have really great tea. We've gone through a jar of this at home already, but Apollos Craft Tea. Um, and this is the sweet cream Earl Grey tea. And you know, we're really fancy around here, so I pulled some wax sticks that have never been used. Thank you for cutting as are uh little stirrers today, and I also put in some local honey from the health food store here on the square today, too. So um I apologize in advance if we cough at all. Both Candace and I are just have some residual coughs from the last season, yeah. From the sixth season, yeah. So I'm gonna take a little sip right now. This is it's really good. It also has it's a black tea, so it has some, at least I think it's a black tea. Yeah, it's black tea. Um I don't know my tea is.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, no saying, I'm like, I just drink what you give me.

SPEAKER_00

But I'm like, I could use a little bit of caffeine today.

SPEAKER_02

So well, I feel like it's worth saying that it's bright citrusy bergamo, thank you. Paired with a rich creamy vanilla and a touch of floral orange blossom.

SPEAKER_00

It pretty much describes it. It's it's really good. So if you're in Columbia and you want a good tea, head over together. Also, we have a whole tea company here called Nashville Tea Company that you can go in and buy your teas. They have a chai tea that is delicious. It's my favorite. We have a lot of great great drinking options here, so maybe we'll drink our way.

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Drink our way.

SPEAKER_00

From Columbia? Well, that could be a good tagline too. Okay, so today we're going to talk about why Elia is a toxin-free day spa slash clean ingredient spa. Um I have four children, and my first one was born in 2008, and he a few months after he was born started having eczema. And I quickly learned that eczema is next to impossible to treat. And we ended up having to. I I haven't worn perfume in 18 years, so I had to take fragrance out of our entire life. So that's what I focused on first was taking fragrance out, and that means changing our laundry detergent. We haven't used dryer sheets or anything fabric softener in 18 years. Um, and 18 years ago, there were not many clean ingredient options. So trying, like I went and I made my own laundry detergent. I was like, all right, I'll get the borax, I'll get the uh, I don't even remember Bonner soap that like and graded it. Like I mean, I did everything because anytime any sort of fragrance would touch his skin, his body would flare up. It was awful. Come to find out, as I continued having children, all of my children had eczema. And at different stages and different levels of it. My third child, Isley, she still deals with eczema, so she's 11 years old. Just so I was able to outgrow it, but also. Here's the great part. So we're also going to the doctors for this, trying to figure it out. Again, finding the root cause of eczema is next to impossible. Yeah. So you know what we were told to put on his skin? Oh no. Crisco! Crisco. We were told to put Crisco on his skin. I was like, there's gotta be a better idea. No, he's not a ham. So I'm like, I am not putting Crisco on my child to treat his skin. Um so this started us down essentially this lifelong path of learning what was safe for their skin. Um like I said, my third child, Isley, she had it the worst. Her skin would her ankles would literally crack open and bleed, and her bed would be a bloody mess in the morning, and then we tried light therapy every night, and I would hold the light. Like, I mean, we tried everything, but if you are familiar or you've ever dealt with eczema, you'll you know that only a cream might work for two weeks and then it stops working. So it become your skin becomes like resistant to it. So we've had so many creams, and I've I heard a lot of horror stories about kids going on topical steroids for eczema. So my goal was to not have them go on a steroid. I've had to, my third child, I had to put her on a topical steroid that we diluted um because it was so bad. The poor girl still has pigmentation scarring from it, and then she ended up getting this weird ancient disease called cleva. Like, I mean, it was we have dealt with so many skin issues, but 18 years ago, my son would have been about four months old at this time, um, is really when this journey started, and there was a little on the internet, the internet was kind of new too.

SPEAKER_02

When it was 18 years ago, yeah, so this was 2008.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. 2008, 2009, about 2009.

SPEAKER_02

And um So you had to actually do like set at a computer and like do research.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I mean, I talked to so many people and we found different oils that would work. Um, but again, eczema is so hard to treat. So the first thing that we needed we knew we needed to do was to get rid of the fragrances and any skin irritants. So I learned what a pabin was, and those are major skin irritants. Well, talk about being a little depressed when you go into your bathroom and everything you have can no longer be used. And we were newly married, we were on a really tight budget, and like everything's so expensive. Yeah, like if I wanted to change anything over, it was so expensive. Um, so but I'm like, I also can't have my kid suffer and not sleep and cry because and just scratch all over the place and scratch them his skin open. So again, try to such a hot time. But even like baby wipes, lots of baby wipes have fragrance in. So then it's like, okay, there are some fragrance-free ones, but then some of them still have other ingredients in that cause irritation. Right. When we would go visit family, even now, still, when we visit family, depending what those sheets are washed in, our kids will break out in highs. Oh, yeah. So it's been a really long journey for us. So when we decided to open Elia, which was in January of 2017, we decided to open Elia. Um, we knew it had to be a clean ingredient spot. Our family was already living this lifestyle. Um, and I wanted to make sure that it could be attainable for other people.

SPEAKER_02

Well, and such a relief for so many people that want to have services, and then they don't have to have that fear of how they'll react.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so when you come to Ilia, you know there's no fragrance in anything, there's no parabens in anything. Um, one of our lines is made in France, which Europe has such a higher standard of skincare and personal care than we do here in America. Yeah. America's getting a little bit better. Um, and I'll tell you how it's now made easier with a lot of things that have happened over the last like 15 years. Okay. But um Yeah, so we've had clients come in here that one particular client, she walked in and she's like, Yeah, I'm allergic to everything. My skin is sensitive, I can't get anything done. I'm like, Well, what are you sensitive to? Like, what makes your what makes your skin sensitive? Yeah and she talked about different products, and I'm like, Well, we don't use any of that stuff here. We don't use fragrance, like whatever you smell is an active ingredient in the product. And so she went 10 years without getting a facial because she would end up in the ER every time she got a facial because she would react so poorly.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Well, she's been a guest here since the first month that we've opened. Oh, I love that so much. So she's been able to get services here. Yes, she's got sensitive skin. I've got extremely sensitive skin too. Like fragrance does not do well on my skin, um, anything harsh. And I also want to be clear not all chemicals are bad. Okay. So water is technically a chemical because it's two elements together. All right. So oxygen. Yes. Not all chemicals are bad, but there are bad chemicals. So we stay away from the bad chemicals, anything that's toxic, anything that is um like a natural irritant to the skin as well. Um so on this path of 18 years ago trying to figure things out, um you know, we removed fragrance from the house. That was the that was the biggest one. And then my body started detoxing, and then it became ultra-sensitive to things because it was no longer exposed to it. So my body's tolerance to that had depleted. Okay. So um got pregnant with my next child. And again, like I said, she had eczema. At this point, I had used Bath and Body Works warm vanilla sugar since high school. I mean, it was my comfort.

SPEAKER_02

Oh yes, there is like, I mean, it's the OG, and there's just the it's nostalgic.

SPEAKER_00

Until it starts burning your legs.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that wouldn't be so pleasant.

SPEAKER_00

So we're maybe like two years into this journey where I was still using some things, but making sure it wasn't touching his skin. Right. So, but then I was like, I thought at first I thought I was my legs were burning because oh, I shaved. Right. And now my legs are burning because I put something on it. Well then I wouldn't shave and put I put lotion or oil on every I used to be lotion, now I put oil on every single time I get out of the shower because I've got super dry skin too, so I need to constantly hydrate it. Right. So I'm like, my legs are burnt. Oh man, red and splotchy, and I I couldn't sleep. Like my legs were so itchy, and it took me a while to figure out oh my gosh, my skin is now because I've detoxed so much, right? My skin can no longer take anything with fragrance in it. So, and we're talking like Bath Body Works, hand soap, like just everything, because it also has dyes in it, too.

SPEAKER_02

And so, like As you're talking, you know, I'm thinking through my the inventory in my house, right?

SPEAKER_00

I'm like, oh, it's really sad because I'm like, I grew up with this and I, you know, the smells are so good. They are until they're not, yeah. And then they start like I don't know, when anytime I go into a house now and there's a plug-in, like I'm like, okay, I can smell it. But it's like a like I can feel it. Yeah. Um a lot of times I'll get a headache or something like that. So um, so then I started there wasn't really anything on the market. Sure, yeah. And so I was like, okay, I'll make stuff. Now I wasn't an aesthetician at this point either. I didn't understand ingredients, didn't understand how they work, I didn't know what the word condygenic was. Uh, by the way, that means like oh, we're supposed to know what that word means. So condygenic uh is a term referring to ingredients that it's on a scale from zero to five with how um poor clogging it is. Oh. So like beeswax is actually really low on the condygenic scale and really great for your skin. So we have beeswax base lip balm downstairs. Okay, so we're we're upstairs here anyway. We're overlooking the square here. Um so but you would think beeswax would like it's a solid, like you would think that it would be right, yeah. So at the time, the trend was coconut oil, and it was cheap. You can get a you know, half a gallon at Cowusco's for like 20 years.

SPEAKER_02

Are you gonna have to tell me coconut oil's bad?

SPEAKER_00

I am sorry. And um, live through all these years. Well, it's not a toxic ingredient, it's just not good for your skin. Okay. I love to cook with it. Oh. I love to cook with it. It's also antibacterial, so like if you have like say you have like a little fungal under your armpits or whatever, like that can help clear it up, but you're not gonna use it as a hydrating ingredient. Okay. So there's different ways to use it. It's not bad for everything, but it's horrible for your skin. Okay. And that's good to know. So I had started making these beautiful whipped body creams for myself. Yeah. And so the base of it is coconut oil. And I want to say maybe I put a little shea butter in there, whatever I saw online that looked whatever information I can. Right. So then I put that, and my legs felt amazing for about two months, and then they wouldn't stop itching. Oh no. So, like I said, I had super dry skin, but when you put coconut oil on it, coconut oil is a drying oil, so it actually dries out your skin. Oh no. Oh no, it smells so good though. Right. Um, so then my lid like sort of really dry and she and I didn't figure this out for quite a while.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I'm sure, because why would you? He thought that that was what you're supposed to be doing.

SPEAKER_00

Because I wasn't using fake fragrances, no parabens. It had like four or five ingredients in, and I would make it maybe like every other week. Um, so yeah, it just like, and of course, you know, I was putting it on my kids too, and I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm just making them worse by putting coconut oil on them. So it's also comdygenic, it's one of the highest congygenic oils, and it clogs your pores.

SPEAKER_02

Which I mean, that does make sense, right?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but um, but it's great for oil pooling for your teeth. So, like, some people will like swish it in their mouth for like two minutes and it pulls out toxins through your mouth. Again, that's a great way to use it. Just not on your face, not on your face or your hair. Like I know I learned that one from my mom, um, who's a hairstylist. She she's like, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_02

Maybe for like a one treatment, but it's not the so all those products that say coconut oil is not ideal?

SPEAKER_00

No, not ideal for your hair or skin. It smells amazing. It really does. But yeah, coconut oil is great to cook with. Um, I really like making Asian food. Yeah. Right? So it doesn't matter if it's organic, refined, whatever it is. It's just don't put it on your skin. Just don't put it on your skin. Um, I will say we have two cleansing bars downstairs that do have coconut oil in them, but we it's not stained on your skin, and it's used as an antibacterial ingredient. Um, you're washing it off. So you like I said, it's not bad for everything, but as a hydrator, just stay away from coconut oil. All right. I learned that the very hard and long way.

SPEAKER_02

How did you finally figure it out?

SPEAKER_00

Um, well, I realized that every time I put it on because my legs became more sensitive. Yeah, so they were really itchy and dry. And like, I'm telling you, like, I remember like just being awake at night because they were just so itchy and scratchy. And then eventually, like, I just figured it out. And then I remember buying like expensive stuff or what I thought was expensive and clean, and then that not working. Like, it was it was such a trial and error time. Yeah. When was it? Maybe 2015. Um, I got introduced to a company, it doesn't exist anymore, but it's called Beauty Counter. Okay. And it was a direct sales company, and they, I will say that company was the best company I've ever worked with for education. Oh, really? I learned so much from them, but it also encouraged me to do my own research.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So they they had something called like the Never List, and so it was like 1400 ingredients that are never found in their products.

SPEAKER_01

Wow.

SPEAKER_00

So that eventually came, that company came out, but they also um lobbied for healthier skincare, healthier personal care with the government and helped get some laws changed. Okay. Um, some things that are uh now banned that used to not be banned. So um you can go in the grocery store now and find trigger words, still not super clean stuff in the grocery stores or Target or things like or Walmart, but they are getting cleaner. They are they're on the right track. Okay. Yes. That's a long, it's a long time. It's a long time, and it had to be people speaking up. Right. And because so when you go into more of the ingredients, okay, fragrance that can be a couple thousand different ingredients that no companies have to disclose. Oh. So you don't know what they are. Um yeah, they don't tell you what they're based off of, it's just a blend of ingredients, and they call it a proprietary blend, and they don't have to tell you what it is. So anytime you see fragrance or paraben on a product in the US, it could be anything. It could be a combination of who knows what. And so if somebody's specifically allergic to something, but it doesn't list it on the bottle, but it's might be under the fragrance, right? Um that could be why they're reacting to it or why their skin is sensitive, or why they think their skin is sensitive. Um when you get into sunscreens, pretty much the only sunscreen ingredient that is not known to cause cancer and not known to be a skin irritant is non-nano zinc oxide. So nanoparticles are known to cause cancer and are banned in the UK. But uh in America we use a lot of uh chemical sunscreens, but they cause your skin to like crazy rip. My nephew, he was had a kid sunscreen, and poor kid, like he ended up having a terrible reaction when we were at the beach, and this was maybe seven years ago, um, ended up hyperventilating and just entire rash over his entire body.

SPEAKER_02

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00

So they haven't used anything except non-nanoteam dogs.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I'm sure.

SPEAKER_00

So we've experienced a lot of trauma with different skincare products between our family and extended family, but um parabens are another one that can disrupt your endocrine system. Like these product these ingredients will either be a known skin irritant, disrupt, disrupt the endocrine system, which are hormones, which we all know.

SPEAKER_01

Well, those healthy, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and like they're just hormones in America are just so messed up, and I can't tell you. We have I have conversations about hormones every single day. And I'm not a specialist, but I can definitely guide people to where to go, but also let you know what not to use to make sure you're not disrupting them more. Right. Um yeah, we have so much infertility in this country, and like but again, so many things compound upon each other. Right. Um, so yeah, parabens fulfates, um, sodium laurel sulfate, which is in like anything, any mainstream product that um emulsifies, so so suns up. There are some companies that are uh using an alternative to SLS, um and which is great. So but sometimes it costs a little bit more. Right. And for a company to completely switch something over, it's really expensive. For sure. Um so yeah, it's I feel like it's just like this battle that it's getting easier to fight. Um But it is that's kind of the gist of why Elia's toxin-free. Like I don't I don't want my girls to start their periods before they're ready to. Right. Um and if there's something I can do about it, I'm gonna I'm gonna help. I'm gonna do this. Um I wanna make sure that they're experiencing childhood and going into adulthood when they're supposed to. Right. So over the years, we have personally have changed out so many things that we eat. Like we buy a cow at a time now, streaming from the farmer, which I love supporting a local farmer too. But it's like we've gone down this path after we cleaned up like the skincare in our house, the next was high fructose corn syrup and getting rid of that. And I would say, like, I think I told you before, like, we're like about 80% good. Right. So it's not like you come to our house and you don't feel like we're not judging you when anybody comes over or when anybody walks into area. Like you don't know what you don't know, right? Right. So I'm like, and when somebody's ready to learn and listen.

SPEAKER_02

Well, and I am very, very new on their journey of health in that way. Um, and I've had lots of questions for Nicole. And I I mean I'll vouch for that. Like, not like I mean, like, for example, like we definitely have plugins and bath and bumper can soap, and you know, there's never been any judgment there. Um, and I do appreciate that you don't you wait until you're asked, right? So you've always been really great about if I say, hey, we're struggling with this, what should we do? Or do you have any options for this? You're quick and ready to like help and explain and offer, but never like don't do this, or that's not good. And so I think that that's a great way to approach it for yourself and for your business.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it I do love when we are able to get people in a clean cleanser or a clean moisturizer, and then they notice a difference in this in their own skin. They notice that it's less red, they know that they notice that their skin is more even just from switching to clean ingredients. Um their skin is less clogged, but also like what we have here is higher potency than what you could you could get at the grocery store. You're also getting a curated skincare routine for you versus just guessing that's true, right?

SPEAKER_02

You're getting all that help. Well, and one thing I will say with because I did switch to Ilya skincare gosh over a year ago. Yeah. Um, and it was because I came for one of the sessions that you had to learn and um tried it, and I've not looked back. Um and it is, I mean, a little bit more expensive on like the front end if you're like comparing okay the price of this moisturizer versus this moisturizer. But yes, like not only are we talking about like the quality of the product, but also it lasts. Yes. And so I really like even if like you're like, oh, I don't know if I want to spend more, you're honestly not. Like my very favorite product is the Yonkus Fray, then I don't think I can ever live without. But I am still on my bottle. So that's like over a year, over a year, and I use it every single day, and I use it genuinely, maybe not, make it. And it's not a one spray, and it is a and then I mix it in it. Um, and so yeah, like I still have some left. Yes. So I think that that's helpful to know also, like, because I was kind of surprised at that, and you had told me these products will last because I mean in a year I've only gone through two face washes and two moisturizers, so it's you're not monthly. No, you're not.

SPEAKER_00

Um I wanted to bring up this little study as well. Um, I found this, somebody sent me this study is from the National Library of Medicine. Yes, that is a credible, credible site because I don't believe everything that's out there. I want to make sure that I'm researching as well. But um, this study basically says that within a 28-day period of removing parabens and folphates from your personal care products, the cells that cause can't breast cancer are drastically reduced or gone.

SPEAKER_02

In 28 days.

SPEAKER_00

In 28 days. So that's just like in 28 days. Yeah. Just by removing parabens and folphates. Um, that's not the fragrant skin irritants. Like it can reduce your chance of breast cancer, according to this study, by so much.

SPEAKER_02

Well, and I think that that's like a good reminder that it's never too late. Um, because I know like sometimes like I'll go down that of like, oh, I've spent this many years doing it this way, like, well, what's the point? Right? I've already damaged. Never too late that way. Right. And that is helpful to have the facts too of like, oh, you really can make changes and actually will make a difference.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I'm glad that studies are also starting to come out because for so long we were just kind of gaslit, saying that what you put on your skin doesn't matter. Right. Um, but I'm like, but wait, we have vitamins and medicine that are in patches that go into our bloodstream.

SPEAKER_02

Well, and your skin's your biggest organ. Yeah. So that I mean I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

We it it just felt like being gaslit for a long time.

SPEAKER_02

I'm sure it did.

SPEAKER_00

Excuse me. Um one product that I used for the longest time, and it was recommended to me by an aesthetician because I needed something cheap. And it was one of the only things that was that was without fragrance at the time. And so like dermatologists were recommending it was acetophil.

SPEAKER_02

Uh-huh. I do remember when you saying that was not good.

SPEAKER_00

So I remember using that for years, and I'm used on my kids when they were little because I'm like, well, there's no fragrance in it, I'll use it for them. And you know, got my two-pack at Costco for like 15 bucks, which I will say, Costco has a great body wash that's super cheap, and as a family of six, we go through a lot of it. Um, but it's clean, it's good, and they have cleaned it up over the years. Um, but yeah, Cedophil, and I remember one day I turned I was in the shower and I turned the bottle around. I'm like, it's all parabens and alcohol. That's all that was in it.

SPEAKER_02

Oh no. And I was like, you've gotta be kidding me.

SPEAKER_00

Like that's one thing that I didn't really look at because that was dermatologist recommended, and it's fragrance-free and it's cheap. It was great. So then I switched to a cleanser that actually cleansed my face. I was like, oh my gosh, my skin hasn't been clean and done yet. Yeah, yes, oh, that's so hard. So, in a nutshell, this is our journey, like my personal journey of how I got to toxin-free skincare, clean ingredients, and essentially like a crean ingredient lifestyle. And yeah, about a year, a little over a year ago, we turned into one of those families that took a lot of the seed oils out. Now, that being said, I'll still enjoy some Chick-fil-A. I know that's peanut oil, but um, but yeah, I don't know. I told Candace a little bit ago, I'm like, I'm about we're about 80%, maybe even 85% clean, but I'm like, um we'll still indulge a little bit. But overall, making small changes first helps.

SPEAKER_02

And as someone who is on like the very beginning end of you know this spectrum, what would be like a good first step? Because it does, you know, it can be overwhelming to think about switching out everything. So where would you recommend to start?

SPEAKER_00

I would start switching out things that you use on a daily basis. Okay. Things that are touching your body all day. So your clothing's touching your body. So let's switch out the laundry detergent.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Let's get some clean laundry detergent and start there. Okay. That's touching your body all day. Your lotion. So I now use a body oil. I'm um about six months after we opened Ilya, I created uh I learned a lot more about ingredients. No more coconut oil and lotion. But I learned a lot more about ingredients and ended up creating like a very simple, toxin-free, affordable skincare line. So I use my replenished body oil that we've been making it for uh almost nine years now.

SPEAKER_02

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Um, so start with things that are on your body every day. Okay. Um, you know, if you've got hand soap that in your house, I that's a hard one to switch over because like cleaning hand soap is actually really expensive and you go through a lot of it. But it's also not something that's staying on your skin. Now, I have some clients who can't use it because their skin is so sensitive to it. Right. So it's like, okay, if you're gonna make the choice pick pick one, not the other, you know. Okay. We even got to the point now where it's like our dish soap is clean. Right. But again, personal care products and laundry detergent, I would say are two of the top, and just stop using laundry sheets and fabric softener, things like that. That's like known to just mess with your estrogen, not estrogen, endocrine system. Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Um, so yeah, those are it's like laundry, skincare, lotion, and body wash. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Things that things that you again, daily use, they're on your body, they're touching your body. We know our body absorbs things. Right. And if the molecules are small enough, that will enter your bloodstream, and then now your heart has to work harder because it now has to fight those toxins that we put in our system. And it just messes everything up. Right. But yeah, our body is wonderfully and beautifully created, and everything's connected. But um, yeah, being careful about what you leave sitting on your body is a great way to start. And if you need suggestions, please ask in the comments. I'm happy to help suggestions, and it's not everything that we carry at Ely here. I don't endorse, like, I don't have a deal with all these companies that we use or anything like that. Um, they're just things you've tried and used. Yeah, things that we've tried and we've used. And again, I'm looking at affordability, I want things to last longer. Um, if I can, I would love I love supporting local small businesses, I love supporting things that are made here in the US. And so just but it it can be really overwhelming because there's also a lot of like false um marketing out there. Yeah, very much so. When you see the word natural, it just take a magnifying glass and see what else is in there, right? Right. Yeah, um, because natural is not always portrayed well. Um yeah, so start start small, and if like I said, if people need a such need suggestions, we switch to laundry sheets. Um, we use them here at Ilia too. We throw laundry sheets in, so we're not using anything that isn't unnecessary.

SPEAKER_02

And and like it that's helpful to know like that you use it here because you know, if you've done a service here, you've probably worn a towel wrap and used a towel, and they are they smell good, you know, they don't smell fake, but they don't they smell clean and they're soft. Yeah, and you're not using laundry to turn it on them. Or fabric softener or laundry sheets.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So I promise you that it can feel normal after a little bit. Yeah, but yeah. So yeah, that's why we're toxin-free clean ingredient at Elia, and we're a safe place to come get your skin taken care of or massage and whatever, whatever you need. So thank you so much for joining me today, Candy.

SPEAKER_02

Thanks for having me, and thank you for all of your lessons.

SPEAKER_00

Learning so much through this process, so helpful. All right, well, if anybody has any questions about anything, feel free to comment. Um, and we'll I'll get back to you soon as we have a good one.