Lost in the Music Podcast
Lost in the Music
Lost in the Music Podcast
E4: The Day the Music Died (Part 1)
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Dear Friends, Clients, and Industry Partners,
I’d like to take a moment to re-introduce myself and Lindahl Events. For over a decade, I’ve been part of this incredible local wedding and event community. I started as a wedding DJ in 2015, ignited by a deep passion for entertainment. What started as a weekend gig quickly became my purpose. In August of 2020, I took a leap and acquired the company that helped shape my career.
In just a few months, I tripled the company’s success metrics. We earned the titles of “Best Special Occasion Musician or Musical Group” & “Best Wedding DJ” multiple years in a row. I was proud of the strong relationships I built with clients, as well as vendors who became trusted collaborators and friends. At the beginning of 2022, we were in a strong position. Having invested significant resources to prepare for our busiest season yet, every single part of the business was ready to meet the high demand.
As the season began, a series of unforeseen challenges shook the foundation of everything I had worked so hard to build. Sudden staff losses and internal disruptions created a snowball effect that continually impacted my ability to operate properly. I did everything I could to keep things on track — often personally working multiple events in one day. Despite my best efforts, the issues compounded faster than I could respond, taking me and my company from a place of strength to crisis. While some damage can’t be undone, I am committed to making things right and to the values that have always defined me.
I take full ownership as the leader of this company, while also asking for grace. 2022 didn’t just strain my business, it took a significant toll on my health. In the midst of trying to hold everything together, I reached a point where I had to prioritize my well-being. For a time, I had to pause operations entirely in order to focus on getting healthy. To get back to a place where I was able to work again took time. While necessary, that pause made a tough situation harder for some of my clients. For that, I am truly sorry. I now have the knowledge and tools I need to be the best owner, DJ, husband, and father possible.
The biggest lesson I’ve learned through this experience is how important, but fragile, trust is. I will never again trust anyone with my reputation, unless they truly are family. As Lindahl Events, I’m proud to now be the sole-operator, with the support of my family. I’ve made many changes and I’m focused on regaining the trust I’ve earned over the years. I will not let one difficult year wash away the decade of blood, sweat, and tears I have shed to build something meaningful in this industry.
I will continue to give everything I have to this craft, no matter what. My love for music and people motivates me to fight harder. The energy I get from a packed dance floor pushes me to work late nights. Knowing that I can always be better, gets me out of bed and drives me to improve every single day.
If you or someone you know is planning a wedding or other event, I invite you to reach out. Let’s make more than music. Let’s create memories that last a lifetime — together.
Welcome back to Locust Street Studio in beautiful downtown Hudson. John Wecon is my name. This is the Lost in the Music Podcast with Isaac Lindall. We are moving along. We are in episode number four. Of course, you can listen to all the episodes here, starting back with our first one. This is going to be an ongoing series that we started here in 2026. We're recording this here in mid-April. We'll be released on May 1st. This episode is a two-part episode. The Day the Music Died, and that's has that uh title has a historic significance. Isaac, you and I were talking about that, and I think it's it's very appropriate for uh your situation and what we're going to be talking about there. And of course, those uh rock and roll historians will will recognize that uh that phrase, the day the music died, which references uh what happened in February 1959. Buddy Holly, the big bopper, Richie uh Valence um died in a plane crash, all at the uh in the pinnacle of their career in uh in a Clear Lake, Iowa. And some thought that was the end of a great early period of rock and roll, and things really changed after that for several years after that. And you know, it it's it's really what the song American Pie by Don McLean has been was based on, and that was the inspiration for that.
SPEAKER_02You know what I learned too? Um, I have friends who live in Clear Lake, Iowa. They told me that Wayland was supposed to be on that plane, and they had to do like a it was only a three-person plane, right? Uh, and so they had to do like a coin flip or draw straws or something to get on uh to be on the plane, and so he had to take a bus back.
SPEAKER_00And uh if you watch the movie La Bamba, which is about Richie Vallens, there is a scene there that replicates that. And Wayland Jennings talked about that years later. It was a very emotional thing for him to discuss it, as you can well imagine. But uh we're gonna discuss uh a lot of things here today, and uh moving along here, and we've we've covered we've covered a lot of area, and we're gonna be specifically looking at today, 2022, January through August of 2022. Yep. And I want to set the stage about where things are at going into the year 2022. You're coming off 2021, very, very busy. And one of the reasons it was so busy is that, as we all remember, some of us are still trying to forget, in 20 in 2020, we had the COVID pandemic, and that changed everything, especially in your industry with weddings and gatherings and banquets and whatnot. And so a lot of things from 2020 got postponed and pushed into 2021. And so in 2021, you had not only your 2021 bookings, but everything that got carried over from 2020, and you did correct me if I'm wrong, 350 events in 2021.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, give or take. We I went back in our calendar um a couple years ago, and that number still sticks out to me just because it was insane. We had um a staff of about 15 DJs that year, and we had a couple weekends where we did like 14 events in one day with them. Um there was maybe a handful of those weekends um that we were almost completely booked, but um it yeah, it adds up almost 350 events in 2021.
SPEAKER_00So you bought the business in in in August of 2020, and so you're rocking it. Yeah, I mean you're you're coming off this huge this this huge year, you've expanded, but you're still a new business owner. Yeah, you know, you're learning the ropes, and um what any business does when you're successful is you expand. Yep, you put on more staff, you take on more things, right? And that's your mindset going into 2022.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, uh we were almost forced to expand in 2021 because of you know the demand that we had. So um a new business owner learning how to manage staff at the time, and but everything went really, really well that year, and so going into 2022, we were set up well. We were excited, we had a great team. We were the most sought after um company at the time for wedding DJs, and yeah, April 2022 kind of gearing up for the season, getting everybody ready to go, and uh really excited at that point.
SPEAKER_00Well, and and the Isaac Lindahl journey is is is really twofold. Yeah, you're the business owner, and you know you're you're doing really well, but in late 2021, we start the journey that runs concurrent with this whole expansion and you know the success of the business where you're starting to have some issues that you want to explore.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, my mental health um started to kind of take a nosedive, or I should say I was more consciously aware of um the exacerbation of some of my symptoms, like we had discussed in previous episodes, late 21 into early 2022, when I was diagnosed. So that yeah, that kind of lines up with this time where we're going, we had a you know crazy year, we're going into this another busy season, and um I'm still I'm dealing personally with um some stuff behind the scenes health-wise.
SPEAKER_00And so, as any business owner will tell you, particularly in the last few years, you know, there's a number of challenges running your own business. And one of the biggest challenges when you're expanding, which is a good thing because you're you know, you're on the road to success, right, is staffing.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Okay. You go into 2022 with a solid staff, as you mentioned, but you're under the mindset at that point, you you need to add more, correct?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I mean it's always nice to have a couple extra people on staff. I don't think there was a ton of weekends where we were completely booked out in 2022 specifically. We had like maybe a couple that were eight to ten events a year, but um, you know, we had 14-ish uh people on staff. So there was a couple weekends where somebody would need off or here or there, so you know, we weren't having to book everybody, and and we always wanted to have ideally our policy was we always wanted to have one person in the office on event days. Okay. Um that was just kind of sitting there hanging out watching Netflix in case they needed to run a piece of equipment somewhere or they needed to fill in for a wedding. Um so that was our our philosophy and our policy going into the year. Um, we were yeah, so we had a great team, we were overstaffed at the time, um, but yeah, the things changed as we kind of got further into the year.
SPEAKER_00And just to kind of take an overview of the business, you're not hiring somebody to mow lawns or to run the French fry machine. This is a very specific skill set and a very specific type of person that you're hiring for a very specific reason for a very specific experience. So you not only you're the owner and you're you know one of the DJs, but you're also, in essence, a corporate trainer.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Um, myself and my business partner were um responsible for the trainings. We had a couple other DJs on staff that were um we trusted with training as well. So yeah, bringing people on, it took, you know, like I discussed in in previous episodes, it even took me a couple seasons before I was 100% comfortable with doing my own events. Um, some people catch on really quick and some people don't, but regardless, it does take some time to um train people on the structure of a wedding, um, how to operate equipment, um, even if they have a great personality, it takes a little while to train people, and it's not something that you can just pull anybody off the street and throw them in as a replacement.
SPEAKER_00Now, you at the end of January, you bring on someone as a as an office assistant. That's a smart business move because then you're designated a person to take some of the things off your plate. Yeah. Was that the thinking at the time?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, definitely. Because I still loved doing weddings myself. I didn't want to have to take a step back from that. Um, but it was consuming a lot of my time to write contracts and um do marketing and social media and um you know analytics and all the things that a business owner is kind of responsible for, um, or you at least you have to do in your business. And so, yeah, to take some of that off my plate, I uh put a post out for a few different positions. Um, Veronica with who I discussed previously, um, she was doing a lot for me at the time as well with um reaching out to venues and coordinating things like that. But I needed somebody doing kind of the the busy work. Okay. So I put a post out in in January for that. And then eventually um early May, I also hired another person to kind of help take a little a lot of that load off my plate so that I could focus on uh my events and making sure all the events that year ran well.
SPEAKER_00So I'm guessing just kind of hearing this and and imagining this, you know, what it would be like to be you at this time period, you're very excited, you're very optimistic, but at times you must feel a little overwhelmed.
SPEAKER_02You could say that. That would be uh perfect, um, yeah, perfect description.
SPEAKER_00Which is perfectly natural. That's how I would feel if I was in that business.
SPEAKER_02And and I was a new business owner. There was times where I didn't even necessarily recognize that I was overwhelmed. Like we'll talk about hindsight's 2020 on everything. Um, just looking back on it, um, I'm like, man, I really was overwhelmed.
SPEAKER_00So mid-April comes. Now the wedding season unofficially, let's let's call it you know, May through October, maybe may probably include latter part of April on there and maybe the first half of October. So going into there, you you put a an all-staff email up saying it it's like uh a coach getting all the players and everybody ready for the season. The season's coming up, but we got we need to make sure everybody's on the same page, and that's kind of the beginning of the wedding season of 2022.
SPEAKER_02Yep, right before a season hits, we always kind of got the staff together and either met in person or we'd do like a Zoom calls, um, throw some email blasts out. We had a Facebook group that everybody was a part of that we could uh put updates in. We would do meetings where we'd do trainings here and there, try to get as many people involved in that as possible so that everybody was kind of doing things the same way. Um and it was efficient for us too, because then we didn't have to find each individual person. We could just do it kind of all at once. So um that was a practice that um my business partner had implemented prior to my me purchasing the business was just always every year kind of having that pre-season excitement. Uh let's get ready, get everybody excited, and make sure that they were prepared and ready to go.
SPEAKER_00You felt pretty good with the with the staff you had in place that going into the season, coming off this phenomenal season the year prior, you that you were ready to go. You were financially stable and you you were getting ready to roll.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. We had um a pretty much booked year calendar. So all of our staff, they had plenty of work, and I don't think anybody was complaining that they didn't weren't gonna have enough work for the year. So we had a full calendar and even kind of booking into 2023 already. So yeah, financially we were doing really well as a company, and we were overstaffed at the time.
SPEAKER_00Now, we talked about this a a little bit off-air, and this is this is a learning curve that every business owner who has multiple employees has to go through. Some employees are considered 1099, others are regular employees, and you're trying to figure out who's who and how to do this. And being that you don't have an MBA, right? Right? Right, you're learning on the fly, and tell us a little bit about that whole process.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's something that I never had any exposure to as a business owner. I had to consult with a lawyer. How do you classify a 1099 versus W-2 employee? We had some people on staff that had owned their own business, they had their own equipment, their own laptops, music files, they had everything just because they were already in the business and and had their own company. They just weren't getting as many bookings as they'd like to, so we were contracting them as part of our company. And then there was other people who had had no experience and no equipment, depending on uh how they worked for us and and what they had. Some people were classified as employees and some people were independent contractors.
SPEAKER_00And so you got to sort that out, but you're you're finding your way on that in terms of and it makes sense to me. If somebody comes on board as a um, you know, having their own equipment and their own experience, they fall under the 1099 because you're contracting them for a specific thing. Somebody comes walking in off the street having not done anything, they're an employee because they need to be trained and they need to use your equipment and you know, follow your business guidance.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, there's like a certain point list that you have to go through and oh really, yeah, check off. If you do this, then they're technically an employee or an independent contractor. Okay, there's all kinds of even litigation and stuff out there that um kind of is molding and shaping exactly what the definition of those two things are. I didn't know that. Yeah, um there is technically uh uh a line that's been drawn on who's what and what you can do for each classification, but there's still some always some argument about it every now and then.
SPEAKER_00So you got everybody in place, and May rolls along, and some issues start in May.
SPEAKER_02Kind of how we operated was um you were assigned an event several weeks, if not several months, in advance. Sometimes people are specifically requested on an event because they did so-and-so's wedding, and then um the bridesmaid from that wedding saw them, loved them, and and requested them on their wedding down the road. Um and and so they knew who kind of they'd be working with throughout the year. We tried to assign events out, you know, uh at least a few months, if not more in advance. Okay. So we put a lot of that load on the actual DJ themselves so that they could build that relationship with the client prior to doing their event. Makes sense. And there's some companies out there that do it differently. They you know they don't assign a DJ to the wedding until like a week before, so the cut the client doesn't really know who they're gonna be working with until like the week of or the month of. We did it a little differently. Um so they were responsible for reaching out, building that relationship, meeting with the client, going through all of their information, what your song requests are gonna be. That was part of our training with them. Is here's how you do a meeting with a client and information that you need to gather from them uh at least three to four weeks out from the event. And um, specifically one instance I had a uh a DJ who missed a meeting. It was usually done at our office, and so I'd I got a phone call. Hey, the office is locked. Um, just wondering if our DJ is gonna be here for the meeting. And it it happened periodically every now and then. Um maybe somebody was running late or they forgot, but it was like maybe once or twice a year that it would happen in the past. So I I kind of sat him down and I was like, hey man, like this can't happen again. I'm gonna give you a warning. And two weeks later he did it again with his the next client, and I said, You're a great DJ, he was a better mix artist at least than I was. Um really great on a microphone, really outgoing. But I said that at the end of the day, that doesn't matter. We're still customer service based, and and there's a second part to this job. You can't just be good behind the deck, you have to be um, you know, professional with your with your clients. So I had to let him go, and I was comfortable with it still because we had other people that could fill in for those events. I had also hired uh another office assistant a couple days prior to having to fire him, and she was his girlfriend.
SPEAKER_00So which creates an awkward situation to say the least.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so yeah, I brought her on and kind of trained her on our processes, and she's like, Well, my my boyfriend just got fired, and I don't so I don't really want to work here anymore. And so I lost two people in like one day. Oh no. Um, and then later on in the summer, which we can get into here in a little bit, but later on in the summer, like within a week, I lost a few people kind of all together as well. It's hard when you have multiple people um that either are either friends or you know, in this case they were dating where that's right, they just kind of follow each other out the door if you can get rid of one of them.
SPEAKER_00And so you've just also just explained why you need a certain type of person. You're hiring a certain type of person, not just a person who's an entertainer and all that. You have to know how to conduct yourselves in in meetings and you you have to show up on time, you have to be prompt, you have to use proper language, you have to come off as professional. And as a business owner, myself, and any other business owners listening to this, when an employer of yours screws up, in the end of the day, it makes you look bad because it's your name on the door.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and unless you own the company, like we had mentioned previously, the pe their that your staff doesn't take it as seriously as you do, or they see it as a job. Um when you hire somebody looking for a certain personality, and when you um when you train them or when you bring them on with your expectation of them prior to the event, because on the day of the event, that's obviously the most important thing. But if you can't show up on time for the meeting and you can't be professional uh with your client ahead of time, that's just showing that you're not going to be able to do that on the day of the event.
SPEAKER_00And this is something we can probably go over in a uh uh a future episode, and one of the frustrations of a business owner is that lack of follow-through. Yeah. And that lack of dependability. And you know, some some will say, well, this younger generation doesn't it's more of a problem now than it used to be. Whether that's true or not, I don't know. Yeah. But when somebody else creates a problem, it becomes your problem. It does. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02You're at the end of the day, you're the business owner, the buck stops with you no matter what, whether it's your fault or not. And you I've had the staff who've you know have worked for me for you know one, two years, um, they've done a really great job. Trust them, and then all of a sudden, one day something can happen where they just go. And in this industry, that's not you can't have a bad day. Um, you know, this isn't like a fast food restaurant or um, you know, a a superstore or something where you can just have somebody fill in for them that day um pick up the slack. It's all or nothing, and you have to be on your A game all the time in this industry. And maybe about half our staff was like in their twenties. Okay. Um, in like a few were in college and they're millennials.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and and one of the correct, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, one of the reasons I did that was uh their schedule is more flexible typically in the summertime. We had a couple teachers too, and um so their schedule is just more flexible, they're more available, and the older I got, the less I was able to kind of relate to the younger generation who was getting married. Yeah. So I I had you know, this specific DJ who I just talked about um did a lot of my proms for me. Um because you know he was younger, he was kind of in touch with the music that the high schoolers were listening to and did a really great job with everything. And um I just had a hard time keeping up with because it changed like music taste changed so dramatically over the that you know five year period between when I got out of college and then when I was and it continues to change as we go. It does faster and faster. And I I I we didn't uh uh anticipate talking about this, but with AI, I I can't even imagine how music is gonna change uh with that, but that's another episode, I guess. So um you hire people based on a lot of different things. Having a younger staff, we actually got a lot of bookings from like their friends and stuff too. Okay, um and not working. Yeah. And obviously there was a lot of people who applied for the job or started training that were younger, and I was like, You're not meant for this job. Um, so I didn't hire hire really anybody that was younger that wasn't super reliable on that end. But at the end of the day, when you're in your 20s, you know, early 20s, you kind of have a little less um you take take responsibility a little less seriously than you do as you get older.
SPEAKER_00Be because you you you get familiarity firsthand with the fallout of what happens when you don't. Yeah, you learn your lessons and then and I also want to disclose something too uh on uh a policy that that we're gonna adhere to on this podcast is that we're not gonna mention specific names. Okay, um, we're not we're not out here to to specifically trash us uh a person or to run them down, and so we're we're gonna we're gonna leave specific names out. You know, probably some people may or may not know who who this is, but we're not gonna do that. That's that's something we decided right from the get-go. This was we were not gonna be uh a TMZ where we're gonna be running people down.
SPEAKER_02No, that's not the point of this podcast. The point is to tell my story. Um the people that may maybe listen to this um and are part of the story, they're gonna know what I'm talking about. Um, but the the average listener, um, what I want them to take away from this is more so uh the the experience that I had and what I learned from it um and names at the end of the day in that regard are not important.
SPEAKER_00And so we now we move into late May. This this other incident happens in the earlier part of the month. Now we're now we're down into late May. You've you've you've hired someone else and they take leave of you at a most inopportune time.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, this person had been working for me for about a year and a half. I told the story, I think either last episode or one of the previous that um I was at my own gig and I got a call. I I would do my own shows and I would get calls from people all the time, you know, mostly during setup, um, if there was an issue. So I would have to do my own event and take calls. But this one time this person calls me and goes, Oh, my microphone's not working. Well, is your receiver plugged in, the wireless transmitter? Oh no, it's not even plugged in. I was like, Okay, plug it in. There you go, I'm fixed. But it's like you've been working for me for over a year, you've done you know a dozen or more events, you should know this by now. This is simple. Um but at the end of the day, I you know, I I still trusted these people and expected them to continue doing the job the way that they had done it in the past, if not better. And for whatever reason, uh this person calls me on like a Tuesday. Um, it was late in May, I believe, and so we were kind of right, you know, started wedding season. We had already done some events. Um, this person had already done some events. We Had um all of our staff pretty much scheduled on multiple gigs coming up at least within the next few weeks. Um so she had already met with some of her clients and I think had a gig that Saturday and on Tuesdays. Yeah, I'm I'm gonna be I'm gonna be done. I'm I'm gonna quit. And I'm like, okay, when? Today. Oh no. What? Yeah, okay, no notice. Um why? Well, you know, I'm getting an internship in the cities and um I just not gonna work with my schedule anymore. I was like, well, you you can you at least finish out like the next three weeks so that I have some breathing room and as a professional courtesy, right? Um, and so that I have some time to fill your position because you know, again, this industry, I can't just find anybody and and you've already met with these clients. They they think that you're working there. But uh no, I'm no, I can't do that. So I'll pay you extra. You know, if if it costs more for you to drive back and forth, if you're moving, whatever, or I'll even you know give you a bonus or what whatever you need, I will I will do.
SPEAKER_00So you're trying to do yeah, you're going above and beyond so to address this.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I was like, I I need you. I how much is it gonna cost for me to do this? Because you've already met with these clients. Um and she just kind of walked out the door. So yeah, I was a high I had to now I'm down, we're in late May now. Um in May specifically, I'm down two DJs from the start of the season without hiring anybody else new. Um so really now I'm I'm strapped because I I had maybe two or three people extra that um at the start of the year, but now I'm down to like I need everybody pretty much every weekend type thing. So I'm I'm you know, and at that time now I'm like starting to think about having to put posts out and and retraining DJs. We're at the start of the season, I can hire one or two people, you know, bring them on, uh, train them at a few events, um, you know, and and then once we start really getting busy, June, July, August, September, October, then I can have them fill in for this person instead. So I'm still like at the time, like, okay, I'm glad this happened at the beginning of the year and and not in the middle of it, but it yeah, it's you get two experienced DJs that I had to fire one and one gave me you know four days notice. Um, what do you do?
SPEAKER_00Well, uh okay, so to put that also into into context, so when you sign an agreement when when a client signs an agreement with you, and there is I'm guessing some specific wording if they request to have a specific DJ, right? Now is is that in the wording, and is there wording then what happens if that DJ for whatever reason can't be there?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I um I don't I can't now there is wording in the contract. Um back then I can't remember if we had it or not. Um we may have had some wording as cancellation policy goes, but as far as the actual specific DJ request, um I'm not sure if there was wording in the contract for that. But but when they booked, um they could request a specific DJ if they saw them at a friend's wedding or something, and then we would put that on the on the contract, you know, DJ request. Um there was maybe two or three that I can think of where the client specifically said before they booked that this specific DJ was required. Okay, and it was usually myself or my business partner in that case, um, where they're like, We're not booking unless we get these you or this other person. Um but most of the time it was just this, you know, I'd like this person or this person. And then on our website we had a few bios and some pictures of our DJs, so people could go on there and say, Maybe you haven't seen this person before, but you go on there and you're like, Oh, I'd like this person maybe at my event, just based on reading through their bio and and seeing pictures. Um, so yeah, they could request a certain person, and I would say ninety-five at least, if not 99% of the time, we were able to accommodate that um up to that point. And then, you know, for various reasons, we we started having to switch some stuff up in 2022.
SPEAKER_00And so there there was no specific wording if that person isn't there, you know, is there a refund or is that or what happens from there?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, not at that time.
SPEAKER_00Well, you know, and here's a couple of examples we've talked about that where you're learning the hard way, sometimes the hard way, right? In terms of wording on um employee contracts, wording on client contracts. If this happens, what happens from there? All of these things are what a business owner has to deal with.
SPEAKER_02That you said it perfectly, and that I mean that that's how it is. And and I mean, I had only owned the business for a year and a half at this point. Um and most of that time was successful. So I was I was just like, oh yeah, this is how things go. I had never really come up against um adversity necessarily, I guess, as a business owner at that point. Um, so yeah, as as we're getting into the season, um, you know, these things popped up that I'm having to kind of learn how to deal with on the fly, on top of, um, I don't want this to sound like an excuse, but it it was a contributing factor to how I was able to manage everything, um, dealing with some mental health issues.
SPEAKER_00I'm gonna throw something else in here too. You're married. Yeah, you're having young kids. Yep. So throw that into the mix as the trifecta.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. April of 2022, my son had just, my oldest had just turned one. Uh, we weren't pregnant with with our second yet, but I was, you know, even then learning how to be a dad and um, you know, manage parenthood with my wife. So yeah, we had like we had discussed, there's a lot going on at that time. And hindsight, like you said, hindsight's 2020. You you'll look back on it and just go, Well, I learned. Here's what I learned, and and here's what I'm gonna do differently moving forward.
SPEAKER_00Okay, so now we there's a few bumps in the road in May.
SPEAKER_02Yep.
SPEAKER_00We get into June. June, correct me if I'm wrong. I I think I've read somewhere that isn't June the most popular month for weddings of the 12. At least it used to be. One of, yeah. One of.
SPEAKER_02I would say in Wisconsin, probably in the country it might be. In Wisconsin, um, I would I would argue that September, late September, early October is most popular for weddings just because it's cooler out, um, and the colors are you know typically beautiful. Um, so but other than that, I would say uh June is probably the next um most popular because you're not quite yet into July and August. Around here, there's a lot of outdoor venues that don't have air conditioning. Barnes used to be really popular, so people don't want to get married as um you know first choice necessarily in July and August. Um so June, yeah. June is probably one of the more popular months um besides September and October.
SPEAKER_00So you got a you got a busy booked up June. June 18th, 2022. Yep. Let's let's let's talk about that day.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Between my business partner and myself, we had uh been able to offer several different services. Um, one of his uh responsibilities was handling our bartending service. He had uh a network of several different bartenders. Um, and I'm not sure how we got connected with this client, but they came to us and um we're we're happy that we were able to offer a lot of different things. What they were looking for, this was a private event um at a private property. Okay. Um and so they came to us, they said, Hey, you guys are able to offer a lot of different things, um, kind of matches what we need for our event. So we spent quite a bit of time with them, kind of going through all their needs, the logistics of everything, um, you know, putting together this quote that wasn't a standard package necessarily. We kind of customized this event because it was a unique event based on what we had done in the past. Um, so we spent a really a lot of time on it. Um we ever pretty much every service that we offered, uh, they had booked. So there was you know, bartending, um, servers, photo booth, uh DJ, the works, everything that you can think of. And um, because it wasn't uh we weren't familiar with the venue, it wasn't a wedding venue. We had to also kind of customize and personalize like the layout where we're gonna put things. Um, so it was a lot of work, but we were ahead of the game. Uh, we had a good plan in place going into it. And the day of the event, we had um quite a few issues um that started with uh one of my DJs um have calling in sick. I I I can't remember how many we had that day, maybe eight or ten. It was a busier day.
SPEAKER_00Eight or ten events going on that day on June 18th, 2022.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So I lived in the area um around here in Hudson area. We had a gig in River Falls um at Kilcarney Golf Course, and uh one of my DJs was assigned to that gig. And he lived in River Falls, uh, or not in River Falls, excuse me, in Eau Claire. And I lived here, so I was I did his setup for him that morning. I was just like, I'm already here, I'm not far away, I'll just do your setup for you. Um he had an injury, so I was also kind of doing it to accommodate that. And after my setup, um around noonish, I was supposed to head to E'Claire, because that's where this other big event was that I was gonna be the DJ at. And he called me and he said, Man, I I just can't get out of bed. I I can't even like leave my my bedroom, much less my house, much less do the event. And so I scrambled and I said, What are my options here? Right. Um, who can I call to to cover this event here? Um, and a lot of my staff lived in you know, Monomio Clare, Chippa area. Western Wisconsin. Yeah, they weren't around here. And uh so I was like, Man, even by the time that they drive here, get here, I get them prepped, um, they might not even make it for the ceremony. But I have you know, my business partner was running stuff already over at this event. Um, I had another DJ that I could call, um, who was actually the one that I had fired in May. Um so you considered I I had to. It was kind of a last resort. Right, yeah. You know, I called a bunch of people, um, even other DJs who didn't work for us. I I I was like, hey, are you free today by chance? Like, I know you're probably not, you probably have a wedding, but other companies I was calling, and yeah, I couldn't get anybody um out there to to fill in for me. So I was like, well, here's my last option. Um and yeah, he was willing to do it and was able to make it there by a ceremony time, and um just the way timing and logistics worked out with it, you know, I was thrown for this loop. I got a call. It was like this guy who was super reliable and had never missed an event and I trusted, just had a medical emergency type thing, and I had to figure it out. I had never been exposed to that situation before, so I was like, okay, uh, you know, I have to kind of make the best decision possible at the time. And and that decision was for me to stay at this gig because I don't have anybody else to cover it. Yep. And I do have other people that can do this other wedding. So that way I can staff both events still. And because you know, he hadn't worked for us for a while, and I don't know if he knew that he probably wasn't gonna ever work for us again, he didn't take it seriously. Um there was you know, he showed up not prepared, not being willing to to be prepared. If if he had questions, he wasn't like, hey, this is what I need. And this is at Kilcarney. No, this was at the the big event. Because I had to stay at Kilcarney to do the event for this other DJ.
SPEAKER_01So he's taking your place at the big event, just to c just to clarify. Yep, yep.
SPEAKER_02And I think there was you know some equipment that I may have for like I think I didn't have my laptop there because I had it with me, um, and I was expecting to bring it with me when I went to the wedding. So I had to send the laptop with my parents who lived here, and they're like, I'm like, hey, can you guys run for me? And because I don't have anybody else around here that can run out timing-wise, and grab the photo booth and bring that with.
SPEAKER_00And mom and dad played the hero and stepped in.
SPEAKER_02Because I put a lot of myself to do uh for my own gigs, so and I had never had a situation before where I couldn't make it to an event. So, you know, I had stuff with me where I'm like, this is I'm I'm good. I got it with me. I've never had to not go somewhere, so I had some stuff with me that you know I had to I had to figure out a way to get to a gig that I was already supposed to be at. So yeah, um, we ran into several problems with that. Um some of it was I'll admit, you know, lack of preparation on my end on um maybe not giving this person the information that they needed. Um but at the end of the day, I got an email from the bride afterwards and and she said in her private email um uh that she didn't think any guests were aware of an issue. Um obviously they knew that there was problems because they had planned all this with us. But we did the best that we could and on the outside looking in, it all came together really well. And um, you know, she even said at the end of the day we had an amazing day, we made a lot of memories, wish this wouldn't have happened, obviously. Okay. Um, but like we had talked about before, there there is that understanding that stuff happens, but because it's a wedding and it was such a big event that you can't redo it. So I ended up having to refund them for a large portion of the event. I refunded them in full for a DJ, photo booth, to make sure that you know they felt whole in the end. Um and that's something you just you just there was no small claims not from that event court or that that's just something you had to step forward and take care of, then yeah, we worked it out together, um, kind of did a little bit of a negotiation back and forth, um, just between the client and myself. I was like, at the end of the day, here you go. Like I I want you guys to be happy. I'm sorry that it happened, and you know, I I emailed them and I apologized. And um, but there was also some stuff that came out of it where I was like, we worked our butt off to do you know the best that we could, and you know, then they questioned even that there was an emergency in the first place. Which there clearly was. Obviously. Right. We we discussed this in the last episode of um, you know, there's a lot of emotions that go into weddings in general, um, in this industry and whatnot. And it it we've had several clients in from various events that it you know, they'll they'll act one way, maybe at the event, and then afterwards they email us and they complain about something. Or this one, they were like, Hey, we're mad, this is what we want back. We understand that it happened, is what it is, we had a great day, thanks for everything, da-da-da. They were like, you know, understanding, but still upset. And then and then afterwards, after I, you know, had sent the refund and all this, then all of a sudden they're you know questioning everything and and blasting uh uh me on social media, and um it's like well, hold up, hold up. Like, how come not you know, how come you're changing your tune here a little bit?
SPEAKER_00After the fact, after a settlement had been reached, negotiated, and agreed to by both parties. Yeah, then this and and let's disclose something here, and I think that's common knowledge. Nowadays, people can do that. Yeah, and the days of uh voicing complaints and only a few people hearing about it are gone. Now everybody can hears about everything.
SPEAKER_02Because of social media, because of social media. Yeah, go you uh Google reviews, Facebook reviews. Very important in this industry. A lot of people will base their booking on who they book um based off of reviews because um specifically as a DJ, you can't go to a private event and see us in person. So one of the you know, one of the tools that you have that you can go off of um based on who you want to book are just reviews. So they're very important to us. Um and we do our best to make sure everybody's happy at the end of the day if if we do run into issues. This this was honestly probably one of the first big major issues that um the company ran into. Um and it and it was a big event, so it was unfortunate that that that happened. Um at the end of the day, looking back, should I have been there? Yes. Um I I have to take some responsibility, like we just discussed earlier in the uh podcast. As a business owner, the the buck stops with me. Um but at the time, uh with the information that I had and and the options that I had, I felt like what I did was the best possible um option at the time. Um there may I don't even know, I haven't really thought about it. There may have been another option for the gig that I ended up doing, um, where I could have been at this one. I I don't think there was, but that's part of business, I feel like, is you know, you especially as a new business owner, where you have to make certain decisions that and deal with the outcome.
SPEAKER_00Well, okay, and you know, you're a sports guy, I'm a sports guy. It's called Monday morning quarterback. Yeah, that's true. I should have done this, and you know, it's easy to say that after the fact. You now I'm just thinking in my head as you're you're telling this story, and two and two questions come to my mind. Um, did you ever approach this person that backed out at the last minute, you know, and say, in a private conversation, do you understand what happened because you weren't there? Um you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_02The person that called out that I had to cover for. Right. Um I did to a point. I didn't really blame him because it wasn't uh a malicious, it wasn't his fault. Okay, it was you know a medical thing and something he had been dealing with for a while, so I knew it was legit.
SPEAKER_00Just a freak fluke thing that happened. Well, and and the timing was the worst it could be.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I I never once thought like um he just doesn't want to do the thing. Never once. So I didn't I didn't get mad at him at all. Um and he even immediately when he called me, I I could tell that he was really um apologetic and really sincere and uh and just like he would have been there if he was able to. Okay, okay. Um, but I did talk to the DJ who did the event I was supposed to be at afterwards because I got a lot of feedback from some of the things that he he did there, and I said I I fired you for a reason in you know in May, and and you're just you just proved that that was the right decision to make. I appreciate you covering for the event, um, so that at least we had somebody there to to DJ and play the music. But moving forward, now he owns his own company. And uh so I hope you know that he kind of learned lessons from that too. And he was young, and and all of us when we're young, we do things in our jobs that we learn from. I'm sure I had a lot of employers that that probably could say stuff about me too when I was in my early twenties. But um yeah, it's hard in in the wedding industry because you always have to be on your A game um and and trusting other people with things that you're responsible for is a lesson that really hit home with me over the past couple of years that I've that uh we'll get into this, but I've changed a lot of things um over the past few years and um staffing and and trusting people specifically, I would say trust.
SPEAKER_00It's tough. It is. The other question I I was going to to ask, and I don't know exactly how this could be worded, but so when you came to a negotiated agreement with the refund, and you know, you walked away from that, if I'm understanding, thinking we're good on this. Was there any understanding or even an agreement that says okay, we're done with this, you can't go a week from now and start ripping me. I and I don't know how if you could have an agreement that says you'd almost like a non-compete, it's not a non-compete scenario, but it's a non-disclosure agreement.
SPEAKER_02Right. It's hard. Um you can do that, and I have done that um with a couple clients in the past, but um I it's hard to do that because you you can't have that be a stipulation of the refund. You have to just have that be a gentleman's agreement afterwards. Okay. Um I'm sure there's there's legal ways around this. I've never dug into it, but it's limiting freedom of speech, right? Your first amendment, right, to freedom of speech, to have that non-disclosure agreement. A ton of companies out there do it. Okay. Um usually it's like on the front end, like when you when you book, maybe it's part of the contract where they agree to that before they book you. Like if something does happen and we're able to refund you, then you can't do that. After the fact, it's a little uh more touchy. All right. That event I didn't um I have uh had a couple where I've I've asked that in the past, but at the end of the day, you know, they're they're free to to say whatever they want as long as it's not def defaming. And that's where we get into a lot of other events down the road where and a lot of other situations down the road where I have been a victim of defamation and I've talked to lawyers about it, um, and that too is very, very difficult um and a very slippery slope to go down because you have to be able to prove a lot of different things um because of the First Amendment, which I fully support, but at the end of the day, I kept my mouth shut on a lot as as people started posting stuff on social media. Um I didn't tell my side of the story, I didn't go out publicly at least with a lot of it. Because of that, I don't know if there was just misinformation that was put out there and people didn't understand everything. Um so they were maybe making comments that they believed to be true. But I also know that there were at least a handful of people out there that were intentionally lying and and making statements of um things that they knew were not fact. And that is the definition of defamation.
SPEAKER_00But Well, and and all of this is so important because as you've referenced earlier, decisions about who you hire are based on reviews. And reviews are based on feedback. And if that feedback is inaccurate, it this is a big issue in your industry.
SPEAKER_02As far as the reviews specifically went, um, I did reply to a few of those and um have a couple of those clients correct certain statements on the review themselves. Um there was a handful of Facebook posts out there that had comments on them uh from various people that I was just like, you know what, it's not even worth going down this rabbit hole of chasing down somebody that wasn't even a client and they were at the wedding and they have no idea what the situation, you know. Um it was I was already so overwhelmed and I was already you know strapped for cash. I was like, I'm not gonna nickel and dime every situation to um to get my to make sure my reputation stays intact. I have events in front of me, I have staff, I still have a team of staff, I still have a business, this is what I gotta focus on, and all this outside noise, I would love to do stuff about it. Um you gotta move on, but I gotta keep going.
SPEAKER_00Um and another thing, too, in terms of uh the hit you took as as a as a business owner or any business owner, you know, you take a financial hit in the refund.
SPEAKER_02Not just in the refund, but in future business.
SPEAKER_00But in future business. I mean, so you know, so you're this is June now. We started the the wedding season, you know, unofficially in in April. So now we're going to we're we're in mid-July, July 12th. Okay, and this incident happened in late late June. You're starting to feel overwhelmed, you're starting to feel maybe a little burnt out. You call a meeting.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, me and my business partner um always had a really close uh working relationship, and he had been through a lot of similar situations as some of the stuff that I was dealing with. He was a part of this event that we just discussed. Um so afterwards, him and I kind of talked about it. Um there was nothing major on his end that went wrong. Um, you know, he he covered for me. Um that was just kind of what we did with each other, you know, like we had each other's backs. And um, so but afterwards we just kind of um recapped the event and went through everything like, hey, here's what the client's saying, um, what are your thoughts, what are your feedback? You were there, like what actually happened in in your from your view, and not only not only this event in general, but on top of that, um you know, we lost some people in in May. I I'm just gonna ask your advice as the former owner of this business, you know, just kind of have that meeting of um mentorship and getting his feedback on stuff. At the end of the day, I'm still responsible for making the decisions and um doing what I think is best. But I I valued his feedback and and um we went kind of went back and forth and had a meeting. I think even during that time, I think I had we had one or two, maybe even three different phone calls um kind of around the same topic of just like, man, I'm I'm really burnt out. I didn't talk to him about my diagnosis, I don't think, at the time. Um, just letting him know like you have a financial interest in the success of this company just as much as I do. Um and so I want to work with you to f to figure out how how we go forward from here. Um so throughout throughout that whole summer we kind of were always in communication and he was offering his feedback and I was offering mine, and um, but at the end of the day it was my business and I was responsible for making the decisions. Um but it was tough during the the middle of that year to to figure out what to do because I had never run into those situations before.
SPEAKER_00And so you have this meeting, and then some other things happen in July. And and just to recap, you're you're coming off a hugely successful 2021, and you're anticipating, I'm guessing, when this started, hey, we're gonna we're gonna rock this again, if if not take it to the next level. And so that was the thought, and some of the now some of these unexpected things are happening. What what what uh are some of the things that went on in July of 2022 after this meeting?
SPEAKER_02Uh after this meeting, so um we were still b uh understaffed at the time. Um we had another kind of busy chunk of the season coming up. We still had events going on. So I knew that um we had to get past this really big event. We that was our main focus. Um, and right before that was when I lost a couple people. So after that got over, um, end of June, early July, I put a post out and I started hiring some people. Okay. Started training some people. And um, so I think I hired uh two or three, maybe two de different DJs um at that point. It was just kind of like mid-July. And um my philosophy as a business owner when I would interact with my staff was um just very upfront and direct. Um that wasn't maybe always the best way to approach staff who are in their early 20s. I don't know, different generation from what what I was, right? Um, but that was just my philosophy. It's always who I've always been. It's me as a person, I just I say what I think.
SPEAKER_00As opposed to like the I'll I'll call it the politically correct, schmoozing, soft sell way of doing things, right?
SPEAKER_02Sugarcoating it and then at the you know, complaining about it behind their back or whatever. It's like it if you're always gonna know what I think. And you know, sometimes it might not come across the best way, but at least you don't ever have to question like, does he have an ulterior motive or what's he really think about that? It's like you're gonna know, right? One way or another. This I just am I'm kind of uh open-minded and open book at times. But um, so not only did I hire, but I also uh lost a couple DJs at the time. So um because of this event uh and and various other um situations, you know, we had to pay extra. And so for that event, not only did I re have to refund the client, but I also had to pay the staff that worked the event, right? So it's kind of a it's a double loss. Double double double loss. Um and as as word kind of got out of oh, they this happened at this event, or there was a couple maybe that we had to cancel because uh such and such and DJ quit, um then we started kind of losing business because clients were like, uh not interested in working with you anymore. Because you heard because you heard this, and so it wasn't us canceling, it was them canceling because they heard something without actually talking to us and being me being like, Hey, let's talk about this so you can get the full story and then make your decision. They just so that's kind of where our um financial situation started to kind of take a nosedive because there was a lot of expenses that weren't expected throughout the year. Um and so at at a certain point we were starting to have trouble paying staff. We were like really, really tight budget. And excuse me. Um so I lost a couple DJs because I was having to pay them late, or um I had you know, the day payroll came out, like we had enough just enough money to cover payroll, but then you know a random expense would come out, so a check would bounce and oh no. But then I I would re I would pay them right away. So like I'd get a hey, my check bounces, and I was like, Oh shoot, here, here's the money. Like just care of it right away. Because it was such a tight budget, the way the transactions were happening, sometimes sometimes that happened. But yeah, I was like, No, like here's a little extra or or something to for the inconvenience. And that again, that was something my former business partner also ran into when I worked for him. Um, I don't want to ever throw anybody under the bus, but I I would I would venture to guess that uh we're not the only business that's had a situation like that happen. No, you're not. Um I can tell you that for sure. So never what you want, um, but it happened, and and there was a couple staff that got frustrated about it, and so I I lost uh one of the staff, um, a couple of staff due to it, and then uh at that time, excuse me, one of the staff I lost had a friend working for us, so he quit. Um it was it was tough uh managing all of this because we were in the middle of our busy season. I was dealing with my own brain fog and my own events and uh having a a one-year-old at home and um and then trying to figure out how to manage all of this adversity that I was running into that I had never had any experience managing before. I'll say this I never once had any um malice, uh ulterior motive, uh nefarious purpose in any decision that I made. Everything that I did, um I always did my best to to figure it out. Um but from the outside looking in uh and the the expectation and reputation we had as a company, I can see how you know clients kind of expected a lot more than some of them received. There were still a lot of clients that maybe didn't even know that there was stuff happening in the company and and received you know great service. I was still able to do events. There was weekends where I was working multiple events. Um, you know, if we lost a DJ or an officiant, I would go cover a ceremony because I was only doing a dance that day. So I would, hey, there's a ceremony, so one earlier in the day and then another one later. So I there was wedding weekends where I was having to do multiple events just to do my best to cover everything. Um and then we were contracting out other companies because we couldn't staff everything in in order to not cancel as many as possible. There were weddings we had to cancel and refund. Um, and we'll get into that, but um, we were having to contract out other companies, and some of them were more expensive and and loss as the middle guy in essence, right? So there's another loss because we booked the client for X amount, but now we have to go contract this guy who cover it more than what the contract is. So again, this is part of business that I learned the hard way. Um I like I said, I I just I always made the best decisions I could while also managing my own personal health.
SPEAKER_00Well, and here's another thing, because and and we're gonna wrap this up because this is a two-part episode. This is part one, we're gonna we're gonna continue this. But as with any business, when you take on an employee or or a contractor, however you want to define it, especially in this industry, you're you're putting a lot, you're investing a lot of your time into training this person. Right. This is how you do it, and this is how we do it, and I'm gonna, you know, you you're investing a lot of your time in this person. And when that person has a has a limited time with you, you know, your your return on investment it's so to say for that person becomes very minimal. On top of that, that person could go and start their own business, utilize what you trained them to do, and then work direct competition against you. I understand that happened. And what measures did you take from that to prevent that from happening?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, now we have um a non-compete agreement if we bring people on. Um but at the time, the way the company had always operated was on an honor system. We had a really good pay scale for employees. That was another thing that kept people around and and prevented them from starting their own business. Was we paid really well, and they were like, Well, I could maybe charge a little bit more for a wedding, but I also am now gonna have to do all of this business stuff and have all these other expenses when I could just go do these gigs and probably still break even and and may end up making the same amount net net profit. Um that's kind of where why we paid so uh much, but we we didn't have a non-compete really, and um we should have because it was just a gentleman's agreement not to do that. Yep, there was a there was a handful of times where you know we would spend time training these people and then they would leave um or use our equ there was a couple times where they would use our equipment for gigs and not tell us. Um and this is about lessons learned and I want anybody who's out there who owns a business to this isn't just about my story, this isn't this is a um isn't just about me sitting here and saying what happened. I also want to want it to be a lesson to anybody who's listening. Um so that because I've thought about like you know consulting and doing these things. I'm just not not what I'm gonna do, but I that's what I want this pod a goal of this podcast to be is to say, hey man, this is what he went through. Let's learn learn learn. Yeah, you know, absolutely as a father, that's too like I want my kids to be like learn from my mistakes because there's other mistakes I've just made in my personal life that I want you know my kids to learn from and this kind of the same concept here.
SPEAKER_00You you also had a DJ, and and when when uh an employee of yours goes into an event and and screws up, you know, you had one one DJ, and again, we're not mentioning names, played the wrong first dance song, failed to file the marriage license. That that's a major that's a major boo-boo there, right?
SPEAKER_02Major. I mean especially when you've been doing it for a while. I don't understand. It's I how do you play the wrong first dance song? How do you do that? You meet with the client ahead of time, you have everything on paper, we print off our forms, we load everything ahead of time in folders, everything's labeled. There's the way we had stuff set up, it's impossible to do that. And so I just didn't understand that. And then afterwards, our officiants are responsible for um, and this is part of Wisconsin law too. When you when you officiate a wedding, you're responsible as the officiant to file the marriage license afterwards with the county. And you have to do it within like a few days. Um, you can't like wait like a week or more or months or whatever. Yeah. And there was one where um they officiated a wedding and lost the marriage license and had to like physically lost it. Physically lost it, and had to like go to the courthouse, get a new one, get them to resign it, all this stuff. And I just I made mistakes. I st I make mistakes just as a human being in life. Um, as a business owner, I made mistakes, but everybody does, and the people that are out there uh being hypocritical on um, oh, you know, so and so does this. It's like, well, maybe sometimes you just need to look in the game.
SPEAKER_00Walk in your own walk in my shoes sometime, or you know, yeah. I I understand, you know, and here's the thing, too, as we as we as we wind this episode down, and we'll continue this in uh part two of uh the day of the music dies has been an excellent episode. You have to remember too, and I'm I'm an observer looking from the outside in playing the wrong first song, you can't redo it. No, and maybe men aren't as sensitive to this as women, although I'm I'm probably painting with a broad brush, but that's a big screw up, and I could see where a bride would get extremely mad about about a situation like that.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely.
SPEAKER_02That that's like extremely important. If you, you know, have uh an out exterior circumstance where you miss a meeting here or whatever, that's not okay either. But yeah, there's certain things that you have to be on your A game with, yeah. Um, and that's one of them. Playing the playing the right first dance song, that's probably one of the most important songs of the whole event. So, and and when you have a lot of experience and you've been doing it for a long time, it's even more unacceptable. But again, this is this episode was about lessons. I hope uh people learned some things about not only um maybe what to do differently if you are in a similar situation, um, but also about kind of my background and my side of certain things um for those people who are familiar with certain things. And um, this like you said, it's a two-part series, so we'll we'll there's a lot to discuss. It's hard to get it into uh even two-hour episodes, but um we're a little over an hour, which is fine because we cover a lot of area. We're doing our best to get it all, but um there's always out uh outside this podcast room for discussion.
SPEAKER_00Well, and you know, when you hire Lindall services, you're you're benefiting from the lessons you've learned, your experience. And tell us a little bit about if you have an event coming up, where you can get a hold of you, start a conversation and and and start the planning.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, if you're in the area local from Hudson, River Falls, Synchro County, even in the cities, um, reach out to me via email is the best way to get a hold of me. You can also go to our website. Um, there's a quote system on there, check our availability. We're really booked up already for 2026, but we do have some dates left available um and already booking for 2027. So um if you if you know you want to book me um or you think you might, just reach out sooner rather than later. My email is uh info in f o at lindall l-in d a h l events.com. Um and then lindall events.com is the website where you can get more information on that. But um find my contact information, email me, uh my phone number's on there, you can shoot me a text or uh call me as well.
SPEAKER_00Isaac, we're gonna continue this uh this episode, part two of the episode of the uh lost in in the music podcast. And before we go, because um when this episode is released very shortly after that, you and I are gonna be working an event together, and we've we've done this before. The Superfly event over in Stillwater at the um what's the venue name over there? JX. Um as part of Hubcap Productions, it's gonna be it's gonna be a great event, and so I want to wish you the best. We're we're both involved in that. I'm doing the play by play, it's a martial arts, and you're doing the music. I think it's I think it's gonna be sold out. Your schedule was such that you couldn't do this last year. I know they really wanted to have you there, but it was you know, you can't be in two places at once. So I'm looking forward to uh to working with you on that here, and now not less than a month away.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's gonna be a lot of fun. I'm obviously used to the the this is kind of a biannual event now, and I've done uh the fall one a couple times, but um now getting uh to do the spring one for the first time at JX is gonna be a lot of fun and looking forward to it.
SPEAKER_00Well, great. Isaac, I look forward to continuing uh part two of this episode here of When the Music Died, Lost in the Music Podcast. This is John Wecken, Isaac Lindall here at Locust Street Studios. Go back and listen to the uh all the episodes. You can find them um all over on various platforms here, including here on Hudsonbroadcasting.com. From my partner Isaac Lindahl. This is John Wecken. Thanking you for tuning in, and we'll see you next month. Goodbye, everybody.