#2: C2E2 Disappointment, I Hate HipComics, Why Silver Surfer was Created, and Hot Takes!

✅ Episode 2 – C2E2 Disappointment, I Hate HipComics, Why Silver Surfer was Created, and Hot Takes! 🎙️🧀
In this week’s episode of The CheddarVerse Podcast, Chris & Jen dive into:
🧀 C2E2 Dissappointment & Our Con History — 0:49📦 Tales from the Sales: I Hate HipComics & Inflated Collection Prices  — 16:07📖 A Moment in Comic Book History: Why Was Silver Surfer Created — 30:25🎬 Hot Takes on the Latest Comic Book Movie & TV News — 42:09🗣️ Cheddar’s SoapBox: Collect What You Love — 56:04


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Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:00

Welcome to the Cheddarverse episode two. I'm Chris Cheddar Comics here with Mrs. Cheddar Comics. What's going on, guys? We have a great show ahead of us. We are gonna be talking about some of our Comic Con experience, our disappointments with our C2 E2 tickets coming up. We are gonna talk about tales from the sales, some inflated prices, and why I hate hip comics. Oh god. We're gonna talk a moment in comic book history with the creation of Silver Surfer and why he was created, and much, much more from us here in the Cheddarverse. This is episode two of Cheddarverse, a Cheddar Comics podcast. Thank you for being here. I'm Chris from Cheddar Comics. I'm here with my best friend, my beautiful bride, Mrs. Cheddar Comics.

SPEAKER_01 1:02

What's going on, guys?

SPEAKER_03 1:04

Thank you for sorry. What part of that is funny?

SPEAKER_02 1:10

I know. It's just how you said it. Oh.

SPEAKER_03 1:15

Thank you for being here, and thank you to everyone who watched or listened to episode one. Oh my gosh, yes. We had so many wonderful messages and comments and friends of ours telling us things that they liked and segments and that it was good and you hung out for that whole time.

SPEAKER_02 1:36

That's pretty awesome. People are here.

SPEAKER_03 1:38

Yeah. All right.

SPEAKER_02 1:39

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:40

Very cool. We are very appreciative. Our nerves are, I'd say not a ten, but maybe a nine. We're at a nine. I think people's comments and warm messages brought it from a ten to a nine. Yeah. And maybe each week we can try to get down by one notch. Or half. Or half. Yeah, cut it in half a little bit. Let's wait a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 2:00

I'm doing baby steps.

SPEAKER_03 2:01

Yeah, exactly. If you miss episode one and for some reason you skipped it, and maybe you stumbled on this one. We are Cheddar Comics. We buy and sell comics for a living. This is how we provide for our family, and this is how we make a living. So buy comic collections, sell to our friends and fellow collectors. We are also comic book lovers, movie lovers, and we decided that we should be signing up for a weekly podcast.

SPEAKER_02 2:30

Apparently, this is a good idea. This is good.

unknown 2:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:34

I always say to myself, I really need more work to do.

SPEAKER_02 2:38

Always. You're always saying that. It's like, God, I'm like 12 hour days. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 2:45

Being an entrepreneur.

SPEAKER_02 2:46

We'll add this other massive project. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:48

But I'm excited because, you know, over the years I've always wanted to. I've tried, I've started and stopped, you know, making YouTube videos or trying other things, and I could never really find my my rudder, my motor, and this was kind of the perfect reason for me to put a camera in front of you and start monetizing our relationship. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:11

Great.

SPEAKER_03 3:13

And people in our Thursday are we have a weekly Thursday live sale on Instagram, and we have friends in there who are like, You guys, I want to see more. I want to be with you guys longer.

SPEAKER_02 3:22

So Yeah, absolutely. They're always asking questions, and this is a great way for us.

SPEAKER_03 3:26

Who is she? Is she real? Is she there?

SPEAKER_02 3:30

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 3:31

I'm not Aaron Rodgers. I'm not married to some chat bot. That's the rumor. No one's ever seen his wife.

SPEAKER_02 3:38

Oh my god. We can't get into that.

SPEAKER_03 3:42

My wife is real and she's here.

SPEAKER_02 3:44

I'm real. Not AI. No.

SPEAKER_03 3:49

We got a lot of fun stuff to talk about today, but first I have to get something off my chest because I'm upset, I'm angry, and I am pissed off. It's the same things. Those three adjectives are the same. Not adjectives, but emotions. I'm in the same emotional wheelhouse. Why? Is it about C2E2? Well, yeah, so um I had a friend Scott come here on Saturday, and he was in the Cheddar warehouse and he bought some boxes off of us, which was great. Great to hang out with him and chit-chat and shoot the shit and sweetheart. Um you know, sold him some stuff. Hopefully he can make some money at at his shows. But what he we were talking, I asked him if he was going to C2E2, and he said that him and his buddies weren't sure because we're in Madison. Um, if you don't know, we're in Madison, so we're about two and a half hours, two, two and a half hours to Chicago. So for us in Madison, our major Comic Con is either C2E2 in downtown Chicago or Wizard World, which is now Fan Expo, which is just outside in the suburbs in Rosemont.

SPEAKER_02 5:00

Right.

SPEAKER_03 5:00

And those are the two we go to. We don't really have a good scene here in Madison. There's smaller shows we've tried. But we don't, and there's not a great big Milwaukee one either, which is odd. So I was asking Scott, I'm like, hey, are you going to C2E2? And he said, Yeah, we're not really sure. So me and my buddies, we might go to that one, or we might go to Planet Con, Planet Comic Con in Kansas City. And I was like, Oh, okay, is that the same weekend? Yeah, it is the same weekend, he said. So, anyways, I'm I'm burying the lead because for for a couple weeks, you know, we bought our C2E2 tickets. Like in December? Yeah, a month or two ago.

SPEAKER_02 5:37

November?

SPEAKER_03 5:38

Yeah, like yeah. A month or two ago. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:41

So I gotta go through all the months.

SPEAKER_03 5:46

Was it October, November, December? It was before the new year.

SPEAKER_01 5:51

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 5:52

And because we had such a good time last year. Last year it was you and me. We went to C2E2. You met a lot of the Lord of the Rains guys because you're a big Lord of the Rains freak. Yes, very much. And I met tons of great comic creators because their artist alley section was intense. It really was. It was a deep bench of creators. Yeah. Chris Claremont, Eric Larson, Art Adams. That's right. Um, you met Jenny Frizen.

SPEAKER_02 6:20

Yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_03 6:21

You know, we met I there's so many. Maria Wolf. Maria Wolf, yes. So many great. I met Mark Brooks. I'm missing someone. John Tyler Christopher. It just went on and on. You know, it was great. So we're like, we had such a good time. We're like, next year we're gonna go no matter what. Let's get tickets early. As of this recording, C2E2 is like at the end of next month. Yeah. So they got about six to eight weeks, six to seven weeks left. They have a total of eight celebrity guests, which is like Steve from Blues Clues.

SPEAKER_02 6:55

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 6:56

Michael Chickless.

SPEAKER_02 6:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 6:58

And I don't know how to say his last name, Ian Grufford, who was Reed Richards in the first two Fantastic Four movies, and I don't remember who else. And then the Artist Alley for the comic creators, which is why I like to go. Yeah. You know, I don't really go for the celebrities unless I get lucky and you know, Sam Raimi's gonna be there or something. Yeah, that'd be cool, hey. Oh my god. Um but so the artist Alley this year, like they've barely added anybody, and I kept waiting, oh, it's gonna pick up, it's gonna pick up, and now it's like a month and a half out, and they've barely they did art they added Art Adams, which I was excited about.

SPEAKER_02 7:36

That's wonderful. Because I know you love him.

SPEAKER_03 7:39

Yeah, he's great.

SPEAKER_02 7:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 7:40

The day after this recording, Art Addams canceled at C2E2. And then that's it. And I kept wondering, like, what is going on? You know, what is the reason for this? And then with Scott's piece, now we know four major cons on the same weekend.

SPEAKER_02 8:00

I'm sorry, did you say it? What's the one in California? Oh, uh, WonderCon. WonderCon.

SPEAKER_03 8:04

WonderCon is also happening that weekend. WonderCons in Anaheim put on, I think, by the same people that do San Diego Comic Con.

SPEAKER_02 8:11

Oh, good.

SPEAKER_03 8:15

So if you're, you know, McFarland or Jim Lee or somebody. You're going to that one. You're going to, you can go to one unless you split up, you know, you go to one show for Friday and one to Saturday. So we're kind of left with and then and then we went down the rabbit hole, and then we were like, who's at Planet Comic-Con? You know?

SPEAKER_02 8:35

That's the one in Kansas, right? Yeah, that one was super cool.

SPEAKER_01 8:39

Fuck, is it cool?

SPEAKER_03 8:41

It was like Carl Urban and Scotty Young, and you had Bruce Dickinson from Iron Maiden. Oh god. Yeah. Elijah Wood, and there's other comic creators that can't remember them all. And I was like, God, and then we just got jealous and envious of that show because it's the same weekend, and we don't understand how anyone who had it first and who copied that weekend and who's planning.

SPEAKER_02 9:02

Why are you all planning that same weekend?

SPEAKER_03 9:03

Yeah, at all 52 weekends, you know.

SPEAKER_02 9:06

Let's do it all on that.

SPEAKER_03 9:08

What if we all get on one weekend? What? So we split everybody into fours. Yeah, I mean stupid. So that's a big bummer.

SPEAKER_02 9:16

Everybody else that like we want to meet are at these different these other ones. At all the other shows, but not at the one we're going to. The one that's nearest to us, the one we've been to like almost like every year. Yeah. They're not coming. Nice. And there's nothing you can do either. No, we tried.

SPEAKER_03 9:33

We tried.

SPEAKER_02 9:34

Yeah, we looked.

SPEAKER_03 9:35

Did I buy that cancellation insurance on that hotel room? I did not.

SPEAKER_02 9:39

No. How far is it to Kansas City? Seven hours. No. Well, because we're bringing our five-year-old.

SPEAKER_03 9:49

Yes. You know, so we have to we're considering that. Because she we took her to Fan Expo last year. Yeah. And she is just the right age where she believes that she is meeting the real Deadpool. Yes. You know, Deadpool is real, and I met him, and she still talks about it to this day. Yes. Because I have a picture with her and Deadpool, and she was wearing a hat, and hey, can we get a picture of Deadpool? Yeah, absolutely. You know, she gets down there, he takes off her hat and puts it on him, and she's like, Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 10:18

We have a picture, yeah, of her and Deadpool, and it's in her room where she gets to look at it every day of her and Deadpool together. She just loves it.

SPEAKER_03 10:28

Do you remember meeting Deadpool? Yeah, he took my hat. So we were excited to bring her because the cosplayers to her are at this age real. Yes, it's so fun to watch. So I mean, we're you know, we're still gonna have fun and we can't get out of it, so we're going.

SPEAKER_02 10:45

Yeah, that's really what it kind of came down to.

SPEAKER_03 10:47

You know, we're gonna see our friends. You know, our uh our friend Daryl Young is gonna be there with a booth. Yes, that's right. And hopefully we can see some of our other friends, depending on if they're gonna be there on Friday or not. Yeah. Because we've kind of decided we're not gonna go on Saturday because Saturday's a madhouse. Saturday's just too intense. So we're gonna go take the kid to the shed aquarium or something, and maybe come back on Sunday or half of Saturday or something. Yeah. And you know, too, we have a very long history together, not just me on my own, but together of going to comedy conventions.

SPEAKER_02 11:20

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 11:21

We've been doing that since we were dating in college. You know, our do you remember our first one we went together?

SPEAKER_02 11:28

Um, it was Wizard World.

SPEAKER_03 11:31

At that time, yeah, it was still Wizard World.

SPEAKER_02 11:32

Yeah. And um I had never been to a con. This was my first time. Yeah. So, but uh really the only thing I can remember is I mean, it's not like how it was now. It was mostly a lot of space and then a lot of bookshelves. And that was kind of it. A lot of a lot of space and a lot of bookshelves? What do you mean? Yeah. Like there wasn't like a lot to do besides coming and looking at books. Like shopping. Yes. Yes. There weren't like events or like a lot of people to meet. Maybe there were like a few.

SPEAKER_03 12:06

It was definitely more like that the celebrity and then the other fandoms weren't involved. No, they were not involved at all. Yeah. So you weren't we weren't kicking up anime and you know, gaming, and there wasn't a tattoo area.

SPEAKER_02 12:22

Definitely not.

SPEAKER_03 12:23

You know, the celebrity section was pretty small, it'd be like a single wall. Yep. You know?

SPEAKER_02 12:27

I remember there being a lot more comic comic book sellers. Yeah, a lot more comic vendors. A lot more um like glass.

SPEAKER_03 12:38

Yeah. Um I remember a lot more porn and remember like porn DVDs?

SPEAKER_02 12:43

Yeah, that's right. The whole booths of that. Yeah. You never see that anymore. No, not at all.

SPEAKER_03 12:48

There are just a lot of bootlegs, too. They're not even porn, but just like bootleg, you know, and they'd have the Doctor Strange 70s show on DVD, and you're like, oh my god, I'm you can't find this anywhere.

SPEAKER_02 12:59

Japanese Spider-Man show. Yeah, exactly. There's a lot of bootleggers. Weird stuff. So yeah, it's totally not like that anymore. No.

SPEAKER_03 13:08

Now it's all cleaned up. Yeah. Family friendly for your family. Yeah, I guess so. But yeah, I remember that one in particular because it was Wizard World, and I loved Wizard World. Yeah, so did I still comic-oriented. And one of my biggest regrets from that first show that we went to was Adam West and Bert Ward were there. Oh yeah. But we were so, you know, you're in college, so it's like, I was so poor.

SPEAKER_02 13:30

I mean We could afford the ticket.

SPEAKER_03 13:33

We could get the ticket, and I remember buying like a $25 book and being like, Cool, wow. We we found a She-Hulk one there. Remember that on the shelf I bought you that? Yeah, we still have it. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 13:43

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 13:43

You know, like, and that was like, whoa, we got one book.

SPEAKER_02 13:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:46

And you know, and then you know, years later Adam West passed away, and he's one of my favorite Batmans. And you know, but it was like it was too much. I couldn't afford it. It was a couple hundred bucks. Yeah. But they did have the Batmobile there.

SPEAKER_02 13:57

They did. I remember seeing that. That was pretty cool.

SPEAKER_03 14:00

You know, and you kind of walk by and you try to look through the curtain and see them, and you know. But we went to we went to Wizard Worlds, and then when we lived in LA, we actually went to Stanley's kamikaze. Yes. And that was the first year of Stanley's kamikaze.

SPEAKER_02 14:16

Yeah, that was pretty cool. That was cool downtown.

SPEAKER_03 14:18

This is downtown and he was there, of course. Yeah. Do we see him? I remember he would like walk the floor. That's but not like walk the floor like like he could doing he had been around so many years. He would zip through the floor.

SPEAKER_02 14:32

With a bunch of guys around.

SPEAKER_03 14:34

Remember all the security guards? And he was so fast.

SPEAKER_02 14:36

So fast.

SPEAKER_03 14:38

He was faster than we were like in our 20s.

SPEAKER_02 14:41

Oh, there he is.

SPEAKER_03 14:43

You know, because he can't stop because people are gonna ask him who would win in a fight between Hulk and Wolverine. You know, just cruising. But that was cool. And then we went, and then you know, we've been going to, like I said, because we we're in Madison, so we've been here for about ten years. Yep. So we go to we don't go we haven't gone for we haven't been going every year. No because C2E2 was bad for a few years. It was those COVID years.

SPEAKER_02 15:12

Yeah, we couldn't go during the yeah. And we couldn't either because we had our baby and stuff, and that was five.

SPEAKER_03 15:18

Yeah, so you know, the last couple years we've been kicking up our con stuff, which has been fun. Yes. Getting to meet, you know, comic creators and some celebrities and stuff, and now meeting friends, cheddar friends. Yeah, which is which is one of the best parts, of course. Easily, you know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:35

Any of the Midwestern friends that come along, it's so nice to meet them in person.

SPEAKER_03 15:40

So hopefully to ring it back in a little bit in the next month and a half, we will get some good people for C2 E2. I hope so. And if not, if not we'll just maybe not buy our tickets so early next year. I guess so.

SPEAKER_02 16:00

You know? Or go to a different one.

SPEAKER_03 16:03

Yeah, go somewhere else.

SPEAKER_02 16:04

Kansas City. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:08

This is Tales from the Sales. So for this week's Tales from the Sales, I wanted to talk about something that is a problem.

SPEAKER_02 16:17

Oh god.

SPEAKER_03 16:18

And it's an issue.

SPEAKER_02 16:20

A big issue.

SPEAKER_03 16:22

And I want to say something. And I want to get it off my chest. And I think I can. Can't I? Absolutely, you can. Just say it. I hate hip comics. I loathe hip comics. And I despise the website hip comics.

SPEAKER_02 16:45

Whoa.

SPEAKER_03 16:47

There has been nothing that has ruined more deals for me than that website. And it's not just them, it's them. It's sometimes it's Go Collect, sometimes it's CLZ, I don't know which ones it is, but these sites over inflate cheap comics to a point that it ruins the deal because they could have a thousand dollar books, right? And that site is telling them that some of those or all of them are worth two, three, five dollars. So you do the math, you know, and they and to them it's not their fault, it's the website's fault, you know, that their stuff is worth two, three, or five thousand dollars. And I look at it, I'm like, I would never get that in a million years. Where did you come up with that? Oh, well, I put them all into hip comics.

SPEAKER_02 17:49

That's usually what it is, every time. And then, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:54

And then the deal falls through because they think I'm lowballing them. Right. And I'm not being honest. No, and I don't blame them. I'm you know, I'm the comic book reseller. I mean, that's the business. So, of course, you're kind of always trying to not get fucked by the guy buying from you, and you put them in that website to protect yourself, but they also, you know, maybe you could have gotten a couple hundred and instead you got zero. You know what I mean? And they all do that. And I'm not the only one. James from Mint Hunter Comics did a video. Oh, yeah, he made a whole video about it where he kind of compared that and he said he has the same issues with people selling their stuff. You know, so it kind of ruins so much, and and they they don't want to believe me, and I don't blame them. Well, no, they rather believe this website. Yeah, because that says that's what they're worth, you know. The most egregious one was uh a couple weeks ago, somebody said that they had like it was something small, like 22 books or something. It was small. And I and if I always just ask, like, hey, do you have a list or do you have pictures or oh yeah, I put them into the site. I'd never seen this site before, I don't remember what it was. And it showed it was like um, you know, just a random filler detective comic from the 90s, and this site told this guy that it was worth $24.

SPEAKER_01 19:18

What?

SPEAKER_03 19:18

Because he had told me that his comic, he's like, Well, I want $387.

SPEAKER_02 19:22

It's very specific.

SPEAKER_03 19:24

Very specific. Like, okay. I was like, how'd you come up with that number? Well, this site's telling me what they're worth. I'm like, okay, can you send me a link? Sure, here you go. And it was like 22 issues, but they were all everything was 12 and 15 and 17 for things that I couldn't squeeze a dollar out of. Oh my god. You know, and I don't even say, like, hey, I'd give you 20 bucks. I just say, you know, I'm gonna pass on these. I'm sorry it didn't work out.

SPEAKER_02 19:50

I feel so bad for those people too. So do I have such high hopes that like you've found something, you've been keeping something for so long and it's worth something. Absolutely. And then you got this shit sight totally inflating, you know, your expectation.

SPEAKER_03 20:05

Well, and they're not gonna believe me.

SPEAKER_02 20:06

And they go to you and they're like, no, you're wrong, sir. Yeah. Some people are cool.

SPEAKER_03 20:12

Some people are like, hey, thanks. Appreciate it, no problem. I'll probably just hold on to them. I'll let my grandkids play with them, yada yada. And then there's the other type of person that will very explode. Oh, not me.

SPEAKER_01 20:25

George is upset.

SPEAKER_04 20:26

Yeah, George is getting upset. What do you mean? I looked these up and I saw that they were worth it. So what do you mean you want to be ripping me off? Oh, you just want to get them really cheap, don't you? You want to rip me off?

SPEAKER_00 20:38

I was like, yo.

SPEAKER_03 20:40

I didn't even make you an offer, man.

SPEAKER_02 20:45

I'm sorry. I get someone yelling at me every week. I'm so sorry. I forget that you have to deal with that like every week. Someone yelling at me every time.

SPEAKER_03 20:57

Luckily, my thin my skin's a lot thicker now over two years. You know, at the beginning, I'd think about it all day and toil over it. What could I have done?

SPEAKER_00 21:05

Sure, of course.

SPEAKER_03 21:06

Like, whatever, see ya, on to the next one. Yeah. Luckily. You know. But I did want to mention, you know, one of the craziest ones for inflated prices. Again, I just want to wrap that little section up. Fuck hip comics and fuck their values. Okay. That site, again, has ruined more deals for me and James from Mint Hunter Comics. I'm attaching myself to him.

SPEAKER_02 21:26

He knows.

SPEAKER_03 21:27

He knows. He knows it's up. And other people do. They need to fix that, and they can't have the minimum be three dollars. It's insane.

SPEAKER_02 21:35

Is that usually what it is?

SPEAKER_03 21:36

I forgot what it is. It's like two or three dollars. Wow.

SPEAKER_02 21:39

I don't even know like where they get their like like their. Yeah, exactly. Just put it at zero. That'd help.

SPEAKER_03 21:48

Put it at a dollar e I mean, whatever. So Fuck that. And other sites I can't remember. Flip the bird. For our podcast listeners, I'm flipping the camera off. But sometimes, you know, the inflated price, you know, just gets in between a lot of deals. And sometimes it's like they want, you know, uh a comic seller wants retail. And I totally understand that, but I I can't pay retail and sell it for retail and do all this work and then pay taxes and supplies. And you know, I pay boxes and bubble wrap and shipping. And you know, if it's on eBay, it's 15%, and then I pay 15% to Uncle Sam. And you know what I mean? So I there it doesn't make any sense to pay what it's worth. And we've we're big pawn star fan. We've watched a lot of pawn stars. Absolutely. And that's like a major television show. It's a major television show that's has 25 seasons. And in episode 10 of uh season 25, some guy walks in and says, It's worth a thousand. Will you give me a thousand? Rick's like, No. How do you not know this? I don't pay retail. You can't do that. You have to sell it yourself. This is a punch up. And I tell people that too. I'm like, if you and it and I and I'm honest with them, and sometimes I am people's advocates. You know, I always want the best for people. If it's easier for them to sell to me and not do the work themselves, then they should sell to me. But if they have the means and the know-how to sell themselves, they should absolutely sell it themselves because 100% we are after the same collector. You're after the end collector who's gonna pay it's worth 20 and they'll pay 20 or 15 or whatever, and that's who we're all after. You know, and sometimes it's easier for people to sell to me, and sometimes it's not, you know, and I have to explain that to people. I just had it this week. Some guy said he wanted a certain amount, and I said, that's just probably a little more than I would like to pay, plus you're four hours away from me. I would recommend that you just list it on Facebook Marketplace yourself, and I'm sure no doubt you'll you'll be able to sell it, you know.

SPEAKER_02 23:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:00

But the craziest one that I've ever had in the history of Cheddar Comics by far is this one. It's a comment on my Facebook page. On my I have a I have a adver uh post that's boosted that's sponsored posts, right? And the he has a collection. And really? He does have comics, he says.

SPEAKER_00 24:38

Oh good.

SPEAKER_03 24:40

So the gist of it is is that he has he says that he has a bunch of comics, and he has this great collection, it's the best stuff I'll ever see, and it's worth a lot, and if he can't get what they're worth, which I'll tell you the price in a minute, then he'll just keep them and he'll sell them himself. And he sent sends a picture, he has one picture. So usually you would send your best book you have, probably. Of course. If you want to entice someone to buy a buyer, the picture that he had attached, cool book, uh Batman Adventures 12. It's the first appearance of Harley Quinn. Very nice. Cool book, right? Probably three, four, five hundred. Just the average, you know. And he says, if I can't get near six hundred thousand dollars for my collection, then I'll probably just pass. Oh my god. And the picture he sends is the first Harley Quinn.

SPEAKER_02 25:42

Yum. Dude. We are delusional.

SPEAKER_03 25:51

I know. I felt I mean, like, I don't know how you came across this. Did he what? But I I've seen, you know, like, for example, like I've had to pass on a collection that had a Fantastic Four number one because and which it had a Fantastic Four number one. Super cool book. It was very low grade, but this guy wanted 25 grand for his whole Marvel Silver Age collection. But it was like just a little bit north of almost where it was all worth. Sure. So that guy had that book, you know, a fantastic four number one, and he was at 25 grand, just to give you an idea. I don't remember the other stuff. Like Silver Age Marvel, yeah, like big key silver age books was that collection. Yeah. So this and this is all the same story of inflated price. I mean, I I've never heard a number like that. I've heard 60,000. Like, you know, I have a storage unit, I'm in Denver, you know, it's hundreds and hundreds of lawn boxes, I want 60 grand.

SPEAKER_02 26:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 26:53

You know what I mean? Like that kind of thing. Sure. Like that arena, you know. It makes sense. I mean, six hundred uh value, uh, you couldn't even get to a volume thing. It would have to be the only way we could get there is golden age. I was gonna say, does he have like an action one? It would only it could only be golden age or original art to get that kind of multiple and volume. Wow. And obviously, if you had an action one or Detective 27 or something, no facts. You you would be no, you'd yeah, and you would that would be your picture.

SPEAKER_02 27:26

Oh, yeah, of course. That too.

SPEAKER_03 27:30

It'd probably be your picture.

SPEAKER_02 27:31

It probably would be, you know.

SPEAKER_03 27:33

So sometimes people have an inflated price. That's okay. Some people, you know, I one or two extra zeros on that one. Oh my god. Um, so that was a unique that was a unique hit. Uh and I obviously I passed on the opportunity.

SPEAKER_02 27:51

Oh, okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 27:54

And I and I hope he's able to find the right buyer. Yes, of course. Good luck to you. Good luck to you, sir. It will not be me. No. So sometimes they get inflated prices, and that's okay, and you just deal with it. And and you know, and sometimes people are cool, and I'll just kind of I'll just push back just a little bit and be like, hey, you know, how did you come up with that? Or where did you get these values? Because sometimes people will look up the values, but not the grade. Well, the price is correlated to the grade.

SPEAKER_02 28:21

Always.

SPEAKER_03 28:21

You know what I mean? So while I saw Iron Man 1s go for five grand, it's like, yeah, those are mints Iron Man 1s. Yours, from your picture that you're sending me up in Green Bay, you know, this looks like a good. So, you know, we're probably gonna be far off on expectations. And and when the valley the the gully is that far, it usually doesn't work out. Because they have a number in their, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 28:46

They've they've built it up where they're not gonna get down, they're not gonna come way down, usually that they've told themselves it's worth ten grand.

SPEAKER_03 28:54

You know, I'm looking at it, I'm like, I'm gonna get two. So I can't pay two. You know what I mean? And you're at ten, so it's let's just Well they're just gonna stop right there.

SPEAKER_02 29:07

You know, let's just save each other some time.

SPEAKER_03 29:08

I got enough to do. You know. And that's okay. And other people, you know, you tell them that, and then I explain to them like prices correlated to grade.

SPEAKER_02 29:19

Yeah, they're really cool.

SPEAKER_03 29:20

And they're oh, that makes sense. Actually, what do you think these are? I'm like, these are kind of in the middle, or these are kind of on the lower end, so that would that's gonna kinda hurt the value, you know, what even I could get it after all of my work. You know, so and then I'll oh okay, yeah, that makes sense, you know. They're like cordial about it. And I always um I I'm always straight with people because I I want I don't want the bad karma. No, you know, and I want people and I want people to feel good because I don't want anyone to feel ripped off or you know, and I want them to get sometimes I am the best option, you know, because if it's gonna be I'm better than half price or the comic book stores, but I'm not gonna be as good as selling yourself, you know, but a lot of people just don't want to deal with it, or they their volume is just too much. Yeah, and they just not possible. Yeah, you know, some of them are old and I have ten boxes, and you know, I need them out and I need the money, and you know.

SPEAKER_02 30:18

And they're always very appreciative.

SPEAKER_03 30:20

Yes, very so that's our tales from the sales inflated prices. This is a moment in comic history. Today's a moment in comic book history is about one of my favorite characters. Silver Surfer. Points at Points at Shirt, puffs out shirt. There he is. There he is. Nice and sparkly. So I was trying to look up something about the Silver Surfer for something else, and I bumped into this little factoid about his creation and Lee and Kirby's collaboration. Are you ready to hear some Silver Surfer history?

SPEAKER_02 31:03

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 31:03

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 31:04

Yes, please. I don't know anything. Okay. Except that he hangs out with Galactus and hangs out. Yeah, they're down at the coffee shop. With the hungry man.

SPEAKER_03 31:15

They're done in the pub. Yes, as our five-year-old calls him, the hungry man. Um, and this, by the way, I'm holding up my Fantastic Four number 49 that Mrs. Cheddar bought for me many, many years ago. That's right, I did. I still have it, and I love it. It's one of the best covers. Anyways, missing or we're bearing the lead here. The Silver Surfer, one of Marvel's most iconic, poetic characters, exists because Jack Kirby was sick of drawing spaceships. Back in 1966, Stanley and Jack Kirby are creating the biggest cosmic threat Marvel had ever seen. Galactus in Fantastic Four Forty. This is the one they were working on, right? But Kirby realizes Galactus can't just show up. He has to travel through space. Or that someone needs to announce him coming. A herald he needs. We did not talk about this.

SPEAKER_02 32:40

We didn't talk about this, but it's cool, right?

SPEAKER_03 32:44

And Stan Lee says to Jack Kirby, Jack, what is that?

SPEAKER_02 32:49

As he should.

SPEAKER_03 32:51

Kirby responds with, I didn't want to draw another spaceship. So instead of another rocket, he invents the Silver Surfer. And just like that, a design shortcut becomes Marvel legend. But here's what's crazy. That random decision created one of Marvel's most emotional characters, where later Stanley would create his tragic backstory of his homeworld. He became an outsider, a cosmic poet, and for some people, on the maybe top ten characters in Marvel history, and that is because Jack Kirby did not want to draw another spaceship. And that's today's moment in comic book history about the creation of one of my favorite characters, the Silver Surfer.

SPEAKER_02 33:43

That's very cool. I love stories like that. It sounds very Jack Kirby. It does, doesn't it? It really does.

SPEAKER_03 33:50

And it's kind of cool because it's one of those, you know, it's just a moment of improvisation that leads to something much greater, and then, you know, Stan puts his weaves his backstory into it and creates a whole thing of it. I mean, Galactus and Surf, you're probably tired of me talking about Surfer and Galactus. Um, but I I've just always loved them because they're just it is uh Galactus is a I mean just a completely I don't know. Did Kirby come out with Galactus? So from what it sounds like, that's a good question. From what it sounds like is that they were getting because they worked on um Fantastic Four together, but it's the Marvel method. So do you know have I talked to you about that? So the Marvel method is that you know, like what you would normally think like we know movies, right? So you'd write a script, like you'd be the script, the screenwriter, you would give it to me, the director, I would take it, and I would, you know, give it to this guy, and we would work off of that. The way that the Marvel method worked, because Stan Lee was essentially running the whole office on his own, he would bring Jack in or Steve Ditko in or whoever, and he would like they would just kind of like pitch the story, be like, okay, and Samariner's gonna come in and he's gonna grab the princess and they're gonna go to the underworld, but that's where the mad guy is, and they would kind of he would kind of give them like the story beats. Okay. So he gave he would give Kirby the story beats of what 48 would be. Kirby would go and have a pretty free reign of what those panels and pages were gonna be, and then he would turn in his pages without a script, and then Stan would take the pages and he would fill in the word bubbles and he would write that in. So that's where this there's a lot of like who created that's why a lot of like who created what is so blurry lines, blurry because like that's where Ditko got upset. Or let's let's leave it on Kirby because we're talking about Stan and Kirby. Yeah, you know, that's where Kirby would get upset where he's like, I did a lot more when I was drawing these pages than you did when you gave me the story beats. And you know, Stan's point is like, but I came up with the idea and I came up with it, which is why you were even drawing it in the first place. So that Marvel method kind of created a lot of um fogginess with who really created what, and that was like really a lot of the rift, that was always the rift between Lee and Kirby, you know, and why Kirby uh Kirby would later leave. You know, and the same with Ditko, Ditko felt the same way with Stan with Spider-Man, you know, that Stan was taking up too much credit and not giving enough to Ditko, and you know, so with this, from what I could read, because there's different stories, is that they came up with or they they were prepared to do the uh the Galactus trilogy. Alright. You know, and the the the Galactus was coming and he was this cosmic threat and all of that. But supposedly, allegedly, Silver Surfer is completely Kirby's creation and added in, you know, without Stan even knowing until he saw the pages. Thoughts on the Marvel method?

SPEAKER_02 37:31

No, because people will get upset.

SPEAKER_03 37:34

People have already been upset for 60 years. Everyone's talked about that for a long time.

SPEAKER_02 37:39

I just think Stanley t took way too much credit for a lot of other creators and just didn't wasn't very good at shining their light as much as he was always about his. Yeah, sure. And you know, as a creative mys you know, as a creative person myself, like I just don't like appreciate that very much.

SPEAKER_03 38:01

Sure.

SPEAKER_02 38:01

And I and you know, to and I and I'm not downing Stanley, obviously I know he's great.

SPEAKER_03 38:06

Just to give a counterpoint to that, I I just and I've and I've gone into the message boards and I've read the books and I've researched it myself, and I because I've wanted to find the answer to, is that it's it's they're both where I end up is that they're both correct.

SPEAKER_02 38:22

They're like co-creators.

SPEAKER_03 38:24

No, that they're both correct. Oh, oh, I see that Stan is correct, that you wouldn't be drawing it if I didn't come up with the name Spider-Man, but Ditko is also correct, that you fill in a lot of the character when you are writing or drawing panel by panel and creating a lot of that story, you know, like visually, and also just writing it too. You know, I mean he they did do a lot of that, but that's because it's not and then and when you say that, then it sounds like Stan's ripping them off, but it's like when you read these books, I showed this last week, right? You know, if you again another book, I'm gonna say it two weeks in a row. Um, Marvel Comics The Untold Story by Sean Howe is like the true history of Marvel Comics. And when you read this, you understand how that happened because Stan, a lot of the time was running the whole office by himself with multiple, like dozens and dozens of comics running at once with no other writers, and he's also like the office manager, and he's paying people and he's getting artists paid, and he's bringing them in, so a lot of them didn't get work unless he brought them in. And there was that one point where Martin Goodman, the publisher, had told Stan everyone has to get fired today. And Stan was literally the last employee standing because he was the publisher's nephew. Oh my gosh, and he hated that day because he was like, I have to fire these guys, you know, and so there was some points where it was kind of like the last Jedi where they get down to the very, very few rebel fighters. Yeah. Stan had that a lot of times.

SPEAKER_02 40:06

Yeah, I feel like he had to do that a lot.

SPEAKER_03 40:07

He had to he where he was like the only one in the office keeping Marvel going.

SPEAKER_00 40:12

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 40:12

You know, so I think what happens later is that he's like a smaller guy in personality, and these start to become more and more successful, and then in the 70s he's doing like the college circuit, and people want to talk to him, and comics are cool with the college kids and they're avant-garde and stuff. And I think there he starts to get he starts to boast a little bit too much, and that's where the other guys start to say, Hey, we got a problem with how much you're taking it out, you know.

SPEAKER_02 40:42

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 40:43

I mean, so that's where I kind of end up on Lee Kirby.

SPEAKER_02 40:47

Okay, well, that makes more sense to me then.

SPEAKER_03 40:49

You know, I didn't know more a lot of that background, but it makes sense about like the 70s coming in and the comics were cool, and you know, he's on the circuit, and you know, you know, and then like Dickko can't get work and stands out there saying he would say in the 70s, like, I created Spider-Man. Wow. You know what I mean? Like, just fully take the credit by the end of his life and his you know, later he in the like in the 90s or maybe earlier, he learned to say Dickko is the co-creator of Spider-Man. You know, Kirby co-created this character, but he I think he had to kind of get there by the end. Sure. You know, because he still held on to well, I came up with the idea.

SPEAKER_02 41:36

Right. You know. So he felt, no, I I'm the one in charge here.

SPEAKER_03 41:42

And yeah, you could go into I would love to go into just Lee, Kirby. We could spend hours just talking about them because to me, they're the Lennon and McCartney of comics. It's the greatest collaboration between the city.

SPEAKER_02 41:56

I don't even know how many characters they've co-created, to be honest.

SPEAKER_03 42:00

All the good ones, you know. Pretty much, you know. Oh boy. And they have a storied history and yeah. So that's today's A Moment in Comic History. This is Hot Takes on Film and TV News. In today's Hot Takes with Mrs. Cheddar, where I bring Mrs. Cheddar news I have collected over the week, news or rumors or unverified things that I didn't bother checking with anyone to see if it's real or not. And I'm just not doing my journalistic integrity and just bringing them here to you and everyone else.

SPEAKER_02 42:38

Oh, that's fine. I'm down. I don't I'm totally down.

SPEAKER_03 42:44

I have checked no sources and I have not verified a single thing.

SPEAKER_02 42:48

Alright.

SPEAKER_03 42:49

Alright, here we go. So the news of the week. No, it's a little quieter. Sadly, today I'm I'm trying to get like some DC and some Marvel with Feige and Gun on each side. It was a little quieter on the DC side, so today's a it's a heavy Marvel day today.

SPEAKER_02 43:06

That's all right.

SPEAKER_03 43:07

Yeah. So first up um is the they dropped the new trailer for Daredevil season two.

SPEAKER_02 43:16

Oh, you watched, you saw that already. Oh, yeah, I did. What did you think of that? Um Jessica Jones is in it. And that's it. Alright, moving on. I didn't really think that much. I mean, I yeah, I didn't like really much of the first.

SPEAKER_03 43:38

It was like I started to, and then there was that bank episode, and I was like, I'm done. I'm done with this shit.

SPEAKER_02 43:43

This shit stocks. Because I thought like nothing.

SPEAKER_03 43:48

Well they just they like shot the whole season and then they they cut it down and rewrote it.

SPEAKER_02 43:52

Yeah, they didn't whatever.

unknown 43:55

That's fine.

SPEAKER_02 43:56

So I expect the same thing for this season, so that's why I'm just kinda like

unknown 44:00

I don't give a fuck.

SPEAKER_03 44:01

Yeah, I mean, and you love Jessica Jones.

SPEAKER_02 44:03

I d I like the comic book character. And the show. And I like the seas season one of Jessica Jones.

SPEAKER_03 44:11

Was that the one with Purple Man?

SPEAKER_02 44:12

Yes. That was cool.

SPEAKER_03 44:13

And after that was cool. I don't remember the second one. It's I don't like it. So they made a big deal of her coming back. Yeah. Charlie Cox is great. He's a great man. Wonderful.

SPEAKER_02 44:24

Yeah, absolutely. So that's it for us. Okay. Yeah. That's it for us. Thank you. We got nothing else to say.

SPEAKER_03 44:32

Okay, so the cool thing, so Doomsday at the time of this recording, Avengers Doomsday is coming out the end of the year in December. So they put out those four trailers, and that's pretty much it. We haven't seen official looks of those characters besides the four trailers. But I'm going to share it on the screen if you're walk listening to the podcast. Sorry. This is the leaked image from a it's like merch or a comic cover. It's kind of hard to make out. Yeah. Right? But it shows like little pieces of each character. So you get kind of confirmed like who's going to be in there and how they look. Okay. Right? So you can see, you know, Doom's got his classic look here. You can see there's the Vantastic Four have their look. You know, you could see Loki and there's Shuri and Winter Soldier and stuff. And then you can see there's Frank little Franklin.

SPEAKER_02 45:30

Oh, okay. I was wondering who that was.

SPEAKER_03 45:33

Like, who's this child? And then the Thunderbolts, you know, so you see some of them with Sentry and stuff. And then you got the X-Men. Yes. You can see Gambit's got his classic look, and so does uh Nightcrawler and Mystique. And then Magneto with his red outfit, his helmet, and his long hair. You know, so they got kind of and then obviously we've seen James Marsden's Cyclops, and that's kind of a confirmed look.

SPEAKER_02 46:00

I like in this picture Professor X, he looks like Dr. Evil. Yeah, he does, right?

SPEAKER_03 46:06

Just in this image.

SPEAKER_00 46:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 46:09

And then um Beast. Beast got his like actual like Beast looks, so it's not a little different than the Kelsey Grammar. Yeah. It is Kelsey Grammar still, but it's not the look of last stand. Which is fine. So what do you I just kind of wanted your take on what you thought of how they're looking and you know.

SPEAKER_02 46:29

I'm glad that the X-Men look like the X-Men, especially I'm looking at Mystique here.

SPEAKER_04 46:34

Very cool, right?

SPEAKER_02 46:36

Yes. Really cool to see them together next to even Fantastic Four or you know, Doomsday. No, I'm sorry. Doom.

SPEAKER_03 46:47

Doctor Doom, yeah. Doctor Doom is and I mean that's what people are most worried about. He looks great. That they would like fuck it up. Mess up his look or let's design our own thing or some shit like that.

SPEAKER_02 47:00

Yeah, grey black suits. Yeah. Whatever. Very muted. But I like that they're all true to the character, honestly. Which is really cool. So that you know you're gonna get like all the passion and it's gonna be seen on the screen. Which is exciting. It is exciting.

SPEAKER_03 47:24

Yeah. And I mean it's not like, you know, you can we can be excited about how they look, but the story could still be shit or of course. You know, however they explain Robert Downey being Doctor Doom or whatever. But we're talking just we're talking surface level costume design based off small little caricatures.

SPEAKER_02 47:46

Yes. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 47:48

And we are judging that. Right?

SPEAKER_02 47:51

I'm mostly just excited to see the X-Men, of course.

SPEAKER_03 47:55

Well, and to be you know, to be fair to you, it's not just like, you know, you like the X-Men because of me. No. You genuinely love the first X-Men movie from 2002. I do.

SPEAKER_02 48:08

And you saw it I saw it four times. Four times in the movie theater more than I saw it. Yes. I think that's because it was uh I love it so much. It was my first like real introduction to s to superheroes. And at the time I had no idea that they were a comic book.

SPEAKER_03 48:27

Very cool. So look at you now.

SPEAKER_02 48:29

Now, yes, look at my life. I had no idea, but I was so enthralled by that film and what powers they had and the dynamic and the the character development, and like yeah, it's just a great film. So to see them come back, especially some of the originals, very is awesome. It's like no offense, first class, but yeah, it kind of wiped away that first class like that.

SPEAKER_03 48:57

We're we're not looking at the we don't want to talk to you, we don't want any of you we want some we want the Fox original Fox crew. Yeah, again the real badass and we're gonna make Ian McKellen and Patrick Sewart work until they're 90, like the Deadpool joke.

SPEAKER_00 49:14

Right? I mean I think they're 80. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 49:16

And we're gonna put some clothes on Mystique. I'm excited for Ian McKellen, like red. I mean, because that and I and I agree, and it's interesting that you and I are fixating on the X-Men because out of those four trailers, the one trailer that people were like raging hard on for was the X-Men trailer. Yeah. Out of the four. Yeah. You did you see a lot of people talking about the Shiri Mbaku thing trailer? No, not at all. It was all the X-Men. Yes. So for us too, we're kind of fixated on that.

SPEAKER_02 49:50

The Thor one was cool.

SPEAKER_03 49:51

Yeah, I like the Thor one. And then the Steve Rogers one was just made everyone angry. Yeah, everyone was very angry.

SPEAKER_01 50:00

We said goodbye to him. This is lame. We said goodbye to him.

SPEAKER_04 50:03

Said I wanted him back, but now it's not in this.

SPEAKER_03 50:06

No. Why isn't he in this little picture? You know what? I never thought of that. Maybe he's not a big part of it. Well, good. You know what I mean? That's a good thing you noticed. I didn't even think of that. Great. So that's that one. Next one, the last little piece. This is full blown rumor. Okay. Just a naked rumor. From wherever. Okay. You know. You just saw it somewhere. I just saw it, took it. Yeah. And you're like, I'm taking that. I didn't do a lick of journalistic integrity.

SPEAKER_02 50:40

It sounds cool. So we're gonna go. Let's talk about it.

SPEAKER_03 50:43

Yeah, it must be cool. So people are already talking about, you know, Doomsday, Secret Wars, and then Secret Wars is going to be a soft reboot of the MCU.

SPEAKER_01 50:54

Okay. Whatever.

SPEAKER_03 50:57

We're gonna get rid of some things, keep other things. They're just falling into all the same traps that comic books fall into. This is what Christ is on infinite earth. You know, we're gonna mess up the universe and we gotta clean it up and we gotta, you know, all the same shit. You know.

SPEAKER_02 51:13

Alright. Fine.

SPEAKER_03 51:15

They had their golden age of cinema. Hopefully they'll have a silver age. We're not there yet, but we'll see. You know, though it ain't these last six years, I tell you that. So people are already looking to what's after the multiverse, because Secret Wars will end, the multiverse saga. Oh, sure. And then the saga that will be after that is allegedly Is it Blade? No, for the the overall saga. Oh. You know what I mean? So you have Infinity Stone, the Infinity Saga, and then we've been in the Multiverse Saga, which has been shit. The next saga allegedly is the mutant saga.

SPEAKER_02 51:53

What's that? The X-Men. Just the X-Men?

SPEAKER_03 51:56

Well, I don't know. What's confusing about that?

SPEAKER_02 52:02

I feel like there's more. You hear mutant and you don't know who Well, no, I mean like, okay, the X-Men, but like, is that like a storyline? You know, like like you said, like the Infinity Stone saga, the multiverse saga, those are stories. What's the mutant one? What's the big mutant one? I don't know. Oh.

SPEAKER_03 52:23

I don't work at Marvel Studios. Like I got a side gig? I don't know. Working in Feige's office, checking out the whiteboards in conference room B.

SPEAKER_02 52:36

I wish. That sounds sweet. I have no idea.

SPEAKER_03 52:40

It's what I told you is what I know, which is in what I know is a rumor I heard online. Oh, right. So I mean, to be honest. Now you're telling me what's the writing.

SPEAKER_02 52:51

I mean, I would think that that rumor would be true.

SPEAKER_03 52:53

Well, and it's so rich too that there's so many people. The the the X-Men universe is so rich and so dense that you could pick pick whatever you it's not like, you know, like you couldn't say that about even Captain America, like, oh he has so many rich stories he could hold. There's a whole saga to tell, you know, whatever the mutant one is. They could do that. So, anyways. Anyway, so the mutant saga, if that is true.

SPEAKER_02 53:26

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 53:26

Right now in the rumor meal, rumor mill, the rumor is the big baddie of that saga, because you gotta have a big baddie. And we had Thanos, then we had Kane for a little bit, and then we got Doctor Doom. So the big baddie for that one is rumored to be Mr. Sinister.

unknown 53:48

Ooh.

SPEAKER_03 53:49

I love it. Really?

SPEAKER_02 53:53

Yeah. Whoa, you're gonna see some dark shit then.

SPEAKER_03 53:56

I was like, oh, that would be really cool. Sick. And not like, you know, the, you know, you don't want to go like, you know, Thanos, and then, you know, you don't want to go, I don't know, like you think a pot they would pick Apocalypse or you know, then DC, they gotta do dark side. It's like we always pick the same big guy with the same big mission. Yeah. You know, and what's cool about Mr. Sinister is he's such a mindfucker, you know, and he wants to clone and he wants your genes and he wants to clone you because he loves he's so obsessed with you, and you know what I mean? He just gets in your head and it's like a whole other level of something. It's uh kind of psychological. Psychological is the word I was looking for.

SPEAKER_02 54:38

You know, so they could like take that you know, kind of idea.

SPEAKER_03 54:44

And X-Men 97 did such a good job with him, too. They did. That made me excited. You know, and another thing, the actor who is always campaigning to be Mr. Sinister. Do you know who that is?

SPEAKER_02 54:55

No, I had no idea that there was an actor campaigning to be Mr. Sinister.

SPEAKER_03 54:59

He's always said he's wanted to be Mr. Sinister, and I've always thought it was super cool, and we'd be so lucky to have him.

SPEAKER_02 55:05

Is it can I guess? Yeah, go ahead and guess. Brian Cranston.

SPEAKER_03 55:08

You're correct.

SPEAKER_02 55:09

Is it really?

SPEAKER_03 55:11

He's always said he's wanted to be Mr. Sinister. He would be perfect. Brian Cranston, Breaking Bread, Walter White. Yes. You know. I mean, we would all be so lucky. Oh gosh.

SPEAKER_02 55:23

Well, they need an actor like that to hold please. To hold up that kind of character. Please. He is someone that would understand. Oh, that'd be so fucking cool. He would just eat all of it. Eat it up a lot. Yep. All of it. Eat it up. Yes. Oh, and he looks so good in the makeup, too.

unknown 55:45

In the costume.

SPEAKER_03 55:46

Well, especially now because they're doing things right with the look. They're not being like, let's make it up. Let's make it up. Let's make up our own thing. Let's put him in leather. Like, why don't you just do the comic costume? That's been tested and proven for all these years. No. Yeah, I mean. Yeah. Well, that's a really cool rumor mill. So that's today's unverified rumor mill.

SPEAKER_02 56:05

I love it.

SPEAKER_03 56:07

This is Cheddar Soapbox. On today's Cheddar Soapbox, I want to take the time to tell collectors a very special message that is not, it's not new, it's not rare, it's something you see all the time. But as a comic book collector and someone who is going after stuff, you have to collect what you love. Do not listen to other people. Don't think about values. Don't go after the grades. Just collect what you love. If you love Howard the Duck, get Howard the Duck. If you love Green Lantern, get Green Lantern. Talking to myself. I have people messaging me, not all the time, but it's a message I've gotten, you know, a couple dozen times. Hey Cheddar, I'm thinking about getting this book or that book. Which book would you get? And I just always tell them, like, well, which one do you like? It's your collection. This is your collection. It's the same as living your life. You have to live your life. It's your collection. You're the one that's gonna have it at the end. So if you're not happy and you don't like it, what's the point of doing it? You know? So our comic collections mirror our lives in that way. You have to do it for you. And do what you love and collect what you love. But you just need to figure that out for yourself and not worry about the the values and the rarity and what other people are gonna think and just make yourself happy and it'll be a lot simpler for you. And at the end of the day, you are going to love flipping through those boxes is seeing what you're collecting. And I know it might it might sound obvious to other people, but for a lot of people it it is not obvious and they want to listen to the influencers or other people's opinions or and whenever I get that question I just throw it right back at them because I can't answer that for them.

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No, you gotta follow your heart.

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You gotta follow your heart. That's right.

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And I know it sounds lame, but No, it's true. It's true. You gotta get that feeling of when you look at a book or you look going through your collection and you know your heart's gotta like light up and it's gotta make you feel like just joyful.

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Absolutely.

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It has to spark joy.

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Just like your life. Your comic collection is like your life, and you have to do it for you.

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Absolutely. Absolutely.

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That's today's message in Cheddar Soapbox. Thank you. So that's it for today's episode two of the Cheddarverse. Mrs. Cheddar, you survived another episode. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 58:49

It's getting more comfortable. That's good.

SPEAKER_03 58:52

I'm the only one in the room. I'd hope you'd be comfortable.

SPEAKER_02 58:54

Yeah. Yeah.

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You're here with me. I'm a little uncomfortable. That would be weird. But we will be back again next week. Because remember, this is every week. Every week, everybody. We'll be back next week with episode three here on the Cheddarverse. And be sure to be following us on Instagram. I am at cheddar underscore comics on Instagram. Mrs. Cheddar is Mrs. Cheddar underscore comics on Instagram. Be sure to subscribe or follow wherever you're listening or watching this, whether it's on YouTube, Spotify, or Apple Podcasts. Maybe we'll be on Amazon by the time this comes out.

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Follow, follow, follow.

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And check out cheddarcomics.com. Buy a t-shirt. Yes. 30 bucks shipped. Get you a few. And we're working on new designs right now for another drop coming around soon. And we have our weekly Thursday live sales where we sell all the good comics we talk about here. And we will be back again next week for episode three. Thanks, guys.

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Bye, everybody.

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Bye.

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Bye.

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This has been a Cheddar Comics Podcast. Tune in next week for issue number three.