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#13 Reflecting God in Nature

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SPEAKER_01

Alright, welcome back. So we ended last episode, episode 12, kind of going over like seeing through the the eyes of God, the lens of God. And I kind of want to like shift that perspective just a little bit and kind of go into seeing God through the design in the world and how everything is like kind of structured together to kind of fit. And why does he do that? You know, why does God replicate what he does in us out in the world? And if you just look outside and kind of look around a little bit, like you'll start to see all these things come together, and like his perfect sense of I guess you would say I have to cut that out. The details, the details in the world, you know? But yeah, Jesse's here with me as well. If you like always. Oh, if you have anything to add.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, absolutely, man. And yesterday, sorry, last week, talking about yesterday, feels like yesterday sometimes. Last week, we talked about again, micro scale seeing people, his design of people through the lens of Christ, right? One of the best ways, like if we struggle doing that, right? One of the best ways to help build yourself up to that and apply seeing people to the lens of Christ is starting probably on the macro scale of seeing the nature through the eyes of God, right? Exactly what my brother Robert here has just been saying. This is gonna kind of be a little more broader area. I mean, it's everywhere. It really is. I'll be honest though, I didn't even really start seeing it till I really started looking. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um, we'll kind of dive into that as we go here, but it is there, it is beautiful, it is divine, it is craftsmanship, it is mathematical, it is intentional. And it is it's honestly a great building block starting point. Again, Robert mentioned the last episode of Seeing Through the Lens of Christ are people. If you're kind of still struggling with that, even with some of those applicator processes, this is even maybe a better starting point of like just start seeing nature, the day-to-day life, how God created it. Because it is there, it is there. But I do want to kind of mention though, then why is this important as always? Like, why would you say this is important to kind of like see the world, how God designed it and created it, instead of just for like how the world views it?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and I think in relationship to understanding nature to God, it's also understanding the nature between us and God. How I kind of want to start this off, and this is leading to breaking the power of sin over your life on the next episode. But let's talk about frequency. Let's start off with frequency here. So, frequency is important because it literally creates everything around us, right? The power of the word, God's word, is what initially created everything. And if God is in us, well, we have power in what we say. And we could kind of see this in nature by looking at you know, when the sun starts to rise, um, I noticed this a lot, you know, while I was hunting, the birds start chirping. The birds, the frequency like opens everything up, opens the flowers, opens, you know, it starts that initiation process. And bees is a is a really good one, too. My brother actually brought this to my attention, but like bees will go around and pollinate everything, but the flower puts out a frequency to the bee, so the bee knows which flowers to pollinate. And like that, same thing goes with us in our lives. God only knows when only goes to us, comes to us to reproduce when we ask him for things. He's waiting for us to communicate with him in relationship so he could work in our lives. But if we never make that initiation, if we never talk to him, he's still there. But you're not gonna see anything change. But likewise, our very environment around us has to do with what we say in our day-to-day life. I mean, if you're always negative, if you're always gossiping, if you're always you're literally creating chaos and a jail cell around you with your words. And they change this in the music industry, they change this in our day-to-day. I mean, it used to be 444 hertz, perfect, 432. I mean, those are the two frequencies you want to kind of listen at, but anyway, that's kind of part of the purpose and the designs of the world, but it gets deeper, I mean, kind of as you look out there. What what do you think? And same question.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, the everything has a design and purpose, right? If it exists, it came from something, right? And it has an intention, it has a purpose, it has a placement. And kind of building off what you were just kind of saying there look outside real quick. You see that tree that has a specific root, specific bark, specific leaves in a specific location where you're at. Would that tree survive in a desert? It would not. Now, if you are around a desert area, I'm sure you also see some plants, one being a cactus. Cactus is intentional where it can survive in those specific elements, that specific condition in that specific season with those specific traits it has been designed for. Would you see a cactus where you're at? You would not. Now, knowing that, knowing, seeing the design through God's eyes, right? Everything is intentional, everything has a purpose, everything is placed where it should be, and it will function by default. Not function by effort. Listen to me very carefully, not function by extra effort or trying hard or anything like that. It's designed by default is to be successful in the area it was meant for. Are you seeing yourself for who you are? If that's the case, I'm telling you, God has designed you for somewhere else. Yeah, and you will flourish by default, doing his will, spreading the word, being bold and confident in the exact way he made you. If it's not happening where you're at, why be a cactus trying to grow in a forest? Why be a tree in a desert? You've been made for more by default. I don't know who needed to hear that or not, but I mean that's just a really powerful message that um that uh it's not talked about enough because I think a lot of times we try to force it in areas we shouldn't be, but also, also, how many times do people try to tell us we should be somewhere where that ain't even close?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's both ways. And well, I have something to add on to that, unless you're done. Okay. And you know, maybe maybe people don't see nothing prosper. Maybe like, God, I'm trying, I'm trying. You know, nothing's growing here. Like, what's going on? Well, did God tell you it was your season? You know what I'm saying? And maybe you have to go through those trials and tribulations because God knows, like, there's a certain time I got you planted for. There's a certain time where you are going to flourish, you're going to reproduce, and I need you to stay strong until that time, through the cold seasons, through the you know, through the fall, because when that spring comes around, oh, you're gonna blossom.

SPEAKER_00

And I tell you what, let's stick on that tree thing exactly with my brother here just said with seasons, right? Does not a tree go through every season every year? But does that tree grow every year? How could the tree grow if it never went through all the seasons? Does the harvest on that tree not increase every year? But guess what? It still has to go through those fall, winter seasons for the spring to flourish and the summer to harvest. And some trees harvest at different seasons as well. We also have to look at that. I mean, it it gets deep, guys. It gets deep, and I'm telling you, it's all by design. It's all by design, and we are that much more complex, and he wants us to realize that that there's a purpose while we're here, and everyone is made uniquely different in his image so we can be placed in different areas to spread the word to all ends of the earth.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and you know, yeah, yeah, we're deep, we're rooted deep in Christ, though. Oh, I could go on and on, anyway. Another thing pears, pears, the trinity. You know, where do we see the trinity? So man was created from the dust of the earth, right? And God blew into it, breathed into it. And we see the same thing in Ezekiel when the the dry bones come to life. And when we kind of look at a tree and like human creation, we kind of see that exchange happening. So we breathe out carbon dioxide, the tree recycles it, and its very branches resemble our the bronchioles in our body, the branches in our lungs that reproduce oxygen. And then that tree recycles out, and then we breathe it back in. Oxygen also has, or air, I should say, has what components to it? Nitrogen, oxygen, and carbon dioxide, a trinity. So these examples just start to accumulate and build up this huge picture on the perfect design that God has for us, a mirrored image, if you will.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely. I mean, a great point you brought up. One of the best places to start, if you want to start truly seeing nature in God's eyes, is look for threes. Look for the Trinity. And some of the ones that really came to my attention, look at water, right? It's so abundant. 70% of this earth is covered by it. It can be three elements gas, liquid, solid. Like water vapor, liquid, and then freezing it to be a cube, ice cube. Crazy how, again, in threes, you look up in the sky, right? You got the sun, the moon, and the stars. Three components that were spoken into existence by the Lord God. You got land, water, air. Again, three components. It's there. It is there if we look. Really powerful because it's just gonna expand. Once you kind of see one, you're gonna see three, then you're gonna see five, then you're gonna see ten, and then you're gonna want to kind of share it with people. It just happens, it happens, and it's beautiful, and it's all very intentional. But yeah, threes are huge.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. And we could kind of like almost have this bleed effect over into structures in our life. For example, man, woman, God. God's over the head of the household, you know. And when you have that divine trinity, then you reproduce offspring, which is what God had intended to us at the original creation. You know, God is the head of the household, right? And then he reproduces through that trinity. But you know, man and woman broke off from that and tried to do it on their own, and then it it created sin, is what it did when they when not everybody walked away from God. No, so you have something on Noah's Ark on this.

SPEAKER_00

I'll I'll go to this context of Noah's Ark. I mean, guess seeing the nature, every time you look up at a rainbow, it reminds you of the beautiful covenant God made with man that he will never flood the earth again. For he has a again, beautiful redemptive salvation plan that just putting your faith and trust in Jesus Christ, you will be saved from eternal damnation. And again, how often do we see rainbows? After every time it rains. So if you ever have a down, you know, oh, it's raining, you know, like, oh man, like it kind of puts a downer on your day. Remind yourself, you get to see a rainbow, a beautiful promise made by God, a beautiful creation, a beautiful design. And it just makes you look at rainy days a little bit differently, I guess.

SPEAKER_01

How do you know you are you're planted in the right place? I guess. You know, how do we know we are where we're supposed to be? And you know, over time, because I mean I still think about this. I'm like, hey, am I doing the right thing right now? Blah blah blah. And I mean, when God, as long as you have God in your mind, you just see how everything works out time after time. It's like, God, really the only question I should have is like, why do I keep questioning you? Like that that's the best question. Like, when will I learn that like you are in control? You know, regardless if if I'm in it or not, like that has to be a hard thing, but like nothing is done without your say, in a sense. You know, for example, I learned sign language in high school, no reason. I just didn't want to do Spanish and any of that other stuff. I just you know, I was trying to get the easy out. I mean, my buddy from high school, who I grew up with, um just took it, and then I ended up meeting someone who I married my wife Amanda, but turns out her parents were her death were deaf. I mean, and I didn't know that. You know, like that was not planned in a sense, but it's funny how God worked that out because well, actually, they didn't know. All right, this is a little on the DL. They didn't know I knew sign language for like I think like three months. So I just played dumb. And one day my mom like went over to their house, like, hey Robert forgot this at our house or whatever. And she's like, Isn't it crazy how Robert knows sign language? And then you guys like end up meeting and they looked at each other like, what the F.

SPEAKER_00

But a little sense of humor there for sure.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_00

I tried. Yeah, yeah. And hey, the this is important though, because this is how seeing God work in your life develops, right? And like we've been saying all these episodes, he's always been there. But sometimes we gotta take a second to take a step back, slow down, and look. And look. He knows what he's doing, he's intentional, right? And the best way to kind of start getting to do this is I'm sure everybody's heard this cliche statement, but I'm gonna say it. If you are only looking for a red car, you will only find red cars. If you are only looking for things to make sense and be understood by the world, that's all you're gonna see. When you start consciously choosing to look for God in nature and in your life and in you know context, you'll start seeing it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But you got to intentionally do it. Now, I want to have another example here that I've I've experienced and I'm sure we'll share a few. Oh, yeah, yeah. So I never really, when I was younger, cared for school. I'm gonna be honest. I'm sure a lot of you feel that. At some point, you know. I never really had intentions to go to college. Long story short, I was never really super good at sports, but senior year, I just was just good at football. You know, to say the least, it just kind of came out of nowhere, got most improved player as a senior, ended up getting recruited to by only one college, only got accepted by this one college because my grades weren't the greatest. Ended up going to that college with a stipulation I had to play at least two years of football to maintain a certain GPA, ended up choosing a pretty difficult major, which ended up leading into a fitness career. But ultimately, what it did was I finished college, completely restructured my mindset about life, ended up meeting my wife while I was at college at the fourth year, meaning I had to stick it out all four years, which looked impossible at the time. Now, what gets crazy is God, you knew what you were doing. She was at a college within 40 mile radius, which we ended up meeting online. If I would not have stuck it out all four years, we never would have met. If she never would have came up out of the state she was at to go to that college, we would never would have met. If I never got recruited to play football that specific, I mean, I could have went to any other college too. Only that one. Just one. One opportunity, one singular opportunity. So it could perfectly puzzle piece match up. To then leading up to sitting across the table from me right now.

SPEAKER_01

Our person kind of wasn't the best either.

SPEAKER_00

But but like you, you know, you kind of sit back and you kind of look at how your life is kind of mapping up and played out. It's like there could have been so many times like you would think, like, oh, I would if I just did this differently. But God knew what he was doing. You know, like God knew what he was doing, and I couldn't have seen it any other way. Looking back, and that's just one example. I just I don't know if you want to kind of go back.

SPEAKER_01

I have a pretty good uh segue to that. Like perfect, probably a good place to put in the four corners. So God in the in the scripture always has about like the the four winds, like the four winds brings you know, like a separates us people all across the the cut the world, if you will. And I mean it's kind of like the the heart, you know, there's four chambers of the heart, each sent out to a different section of the body, but it always ends up cycling back to the heart, to him, you know, and that's that's kind of like how these stories are, like they all like we're scattered, but we always end up getting cycled back to him, I feel like, and I mean it's just kind of a a beautiful thing, but like even that is you know ridden within us. Yeah, and and also what is the heart? The heart's a garden. We keep talking about that. So I mean, how are you supposed to bloom? How are you supposed to grow in this world if you don't first plant the seed? I mean, what are you watering dirt?

SPEAKER_02

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01

You know, if we just water, you know, our human nature, which is sin in today's world, what's gonna grow? You gotta plant that seed and plant that seed in other people, and then what do you do? You water it. You water it with the word, you water it with that relationship with God, encouragement, and you speak those words, you speak your new nature out into the world and watch everything around you manifest into what you said.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and another point I want to make here too is if there are things you're going through right now that you're struggling with, especially if it's like past trauma or like things you're struggling with where like you know you shouldn't be doing it because you are trying to go closer to God, but you're kind of like, you know, why am I going through this if I am following, you know, Christ. I just want to say right now, he will use all things for the good of his glory for those who love him. That's Romans 8.28. He doesn't want those bad things to happen to you. It hurt him more than it hurt you. If you could believe me on that. He took the lashes and went on the cross for that reason. But I'm telling you, he will use that to get you through it, to heal you, to move forward, to tell you the truth. Over that lie, and he will use that if you continue this walk with him, get through those seasons, plant yourself in the right environment to help other people who seem to not be able to get out of it either. Who seem to not understand the environment they're in, who seem to think they deserve it, who seem to think that they're not worthy, who seem to think that, oh, this just isn't for me. It is. It is, but it's time you start hearing the truth and that there's a better way. Everything will be used for the good of his glory. Not just some, not just a little bit, not just, you know, whenever it might be convenient. Everything. But we have to start seeing it. We have to start moving in the truth. We have to start acknowledging the truth and turning away from those lies.

SPEAKER_01

So I mean, we only see these things when we look for them. You know. If you if you're comfortable with staying in the same place, the same day to day, you know, being oppressed by the government, which is a principality in itself. You know, I mean, it's it's all an illusion. It really is. It's just all an illusion. They they don't want you to come to the realization of the truth. They don't want you to understand you're oppressed. They they want you to be to drown in the reality that we're in. But it's not true. Because the truth is, it is finished. We have victory in God. So start speaking to your life like that. Start understanding who you are in God. Because I don't care what you see around you that's that's giving you problems, whether it's it's health problems, whether it's your day-to-day, like who's more powerful? Who's in the world or who's in you? So understand who you are, understand your identity in God. Because that's the truth. And when you we seek the truth, the truth will set us free.

SPEAKER_00

Amen. Amen. Yeah, very well said. I mean, that's that's ultimate. I do you got anything else to add?

SPEAKER_01

No, I want to go running right now. Yeah, I bet. I bet.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I I absolutely I absolutely agree with that, you know.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and the last thing I kind of want to add here, actually, to kind of wrap up, is a is a big example. I want to kind of actually repick up where I was talking about where like he's gonna use past experiences, even if they were like detrimental or traumatic, or like, why did I go through this? Why am I why am I currently going through it, right? I just want to give an example here, real quick. So I've, as you've learned, again, keep saying this from earlier podcasts and testimonies. I fell to idolatry for many years of my life. I was placing things in this world in front of God, thinking I was receiving the fulfillment, I guess you could say. Like that was my itch. That was my uh hit. That was my, yep, this is who I am, this is what I'm made for. But it was always like it was never satisfying me. And I always had to do more or get more of it or spend more time, more, it required more of me. Right. When I got delivered from that idolatry, I then realized a piece of why I had to kind of almost like go through that, or why he's going to use that, or how he's gonna use that, is I will then help others through Christ see that putting worldly things in front of God just doesn't satisfy you. It does not fulfill you, it does not mean the same type of like weight as eternal things mean. Like it's it's not coming with us. So why is it consuming our life? You know, and just kind of seeing that play out, it's like, why did I have to go through that, God? And then all of a sudden, as the walk grows and the walk continues, and you keep moving forward, and then you look back with God, you're like, Oh, I understand. I didn't understand at the time, but now I'm starting to understand. And the best part, there's still more I don't understand. Oh, yeah, and that's how it always that's how it always goes, and that's what keeps it intriguing and everything. And yeah, that's just another example to kind of help apply.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I love it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, just I mean, it it kind of shows you too, like we'll we'll never stop learning. You know, all of eternity we'll never stop learning. But the faster you could identify who you are in him, the the more the faster you could get to going on your path with him. Because the truth is, like, I don't care what you think, but you have a purpose, you are designed, you are unique, you are special, you just may not know who you are. And that's the truth. If you just kind of feel isolated, you know, stuck in place, like nothing around you could move, that's not true. He didn't make you just to be someone who suffers for no reason. He made you because he wants to use you, understand who you are, try to figure out who that is in God, because there's no one like you. We're all different. We all have a season, we all have a purpose, we were all planted in a specific area. So understand that authority too. You ain't you ain't just a person, you're a child of God, the most high God. So I hope I hope that marinates. I hope you let that seed grow. And yes, you know, break through that surface in your life.

SPEAKER_00

Amen. Amen.

SPEAKER_01

But yeah, I mean that's all I have.

SPEAKER_00

God bless. Yeah, have a great rest of your week. Till next time, brothers and sisters.