Special Episode: Conversation with Rhonda Binda & Varinder Singh

In this special episode of the SB Life Institute Podcast, Safraz Bacchus sits down with community leaders Rhonda Binda and Varinder Singh for a thoughtful discussion on leadership, civic engagement, and the future of Richmond Hill.

Together, they explore the importance of community involvement, voter participation, youth empowerment, public safety, education, interfaith collaboration, and accountable leadership. The conversation highlights the challenges facing local communities while offering a vision centered on service, compassion, unity, and opportunity for all.

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Greetings of peace and love be with you all. Welcome to SB Life Institute Podcast. And today we are joined by two community leaders, Ronda Binda and Varindra Singh. And I'd say that it is an honor to have them here on this particular episode. Initially I will say that I come to know Ronda Binda many years ago and lately I can say that my good friend uh Varindra has been someone that I've noticed working tirelessly within our community. A quick disclaimer that I'm not here to discuss politics, but as a community leader, my intent is to communicate and to have meaningful conversation and also hard conversation about how we can develop our community and the society in which we live in. We want to thank you both for joining us on SE Light Institute Podcast. And our goal is to help our community learn more about who you are, what you stand for, and how you hope to serve the people of Richmond Hill and beyond. First of all, allow me to give you this time to introduce yourself, Rhonda, if you can kindly tell the viewers a little bit about yourself, and thereafter I'll ask my good friend Runda if you can also share a little bit about yourself as an introduction to the people and my viewers.

SPEAKER_00 1:29

Thank you so much. It really is an honor to be here. And when you talk about working tirelessly, I think about you, actually. Because it's your part person to follow in terms of the amount of work that you do for the community. But you inspire me for many years, and thank you for your leadership. Thank you. Um I'm Ronda Binda, I'm an attorney by trade. I work in technology. It's been my passion. But my other passion has been working um to empower people. Um I've had such a great experience uh being first generation American, living the American dream. And I've had the great opportunities to serve um at places like the US Senate, the White House, State Department. But all this time I want to come back and see what I can take from what I've learned and contribute back to the place that made me who I am, which is Queens, New York. And so um at the heart of Queens is Richmond Hill. And there's uh, you know, a lot of community building that needs to be done. And actually, both of you are building literally and figuratively because I see that what you're doing with the renovations at the Glorious Moss, as well as uh Brenner will have a chance to talk about himself in construction and during his, you know, his the work that he does. But it's really just an honor to be here. I I'm excited today to be here, especially because today was Erlin voting, yeah, the first day. And uh the excitement's in the air. We have um, you know, uh so many people make me for the first time that maybe we'll be voting because they see people from the community that are actually um stepping up to the plate to run for district leader. And uh it's just uh I think it's an auspicious day to be here talking to people.

SPEAKER_02 3:10

So thank the thank you so much for taking time off to be on the show. And now, my good friend, can you share a little bit about yourself?

SPEAKER_01 3:16

And yes, uh, thank you so much at all so far for having you here. And uh my name is Linda Sing. Uh as uh a boy profession, so uh I'm the CEO of my real estate fund at just city of advisors. And uh the uh now I'm learning as a Democrat district leader from Assembly District 24B, as part of rich material and Q Gardens. And uh the thing is why I'm running because uh basically she's an attorney, uh, I'm an entrepreneur. And but the we are in the politics for purpose. The reason is uh there is a too much uh big leadership vacuum uh between community and elected officials. And one thing is there is also uh not a lot of people's involvement in the SIG system and also in the politics, and uh some people think the politics is messy, or we we don't want to vote.

SPEAKER_02 4:17

Because I want uh that is one of the things that I I wanted to mention, maybe when you finish. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:22

Yes. The thing is, uh, but as uh my thing uh we believe in God, or we are factory, yeah. We believe uh universe this world ranked by God. But there is a simple truth, this world ran by the politicians. If we don't have good leaders uh in on any branch or in any in city, state or in federal level, whatever the decision and you make they they make any decision, you vote on that, is uh impact all of us. So that's why I want to for people to be involved in the politics, uh involved in the voting process. So because voting is your power. If you go vote and then next time, after two years when the elections came, when four years the election is coming, and then people and uh sorry, elected official know if uh we don't vote for the people, they vote against them, you will send they'll uh take out from office.

SPEAKER_02 5:24

So point I would like to mention would be that in Richmond Hill area, district in which you're a remnant, is that I have seen for the past 13 years during election time that the front is quite minimal. Um the reason why, based on my interaction, is that there are many communities that feel that when you when you engage in politics, it's not a clean way that they have a question mark on the uh the ethics behind politicians, yes, and whether they are actually working for the people. And and I I'm mentioning this because I want to ask both of you, give you the chance to see what is different about the two of you in comparison with other people that are there. Rather, I know that you have occupied major offices and you were more president, uh Queens assistant. Yeah, and also you you've been you know around. The Richmond Hill Queen's area is our area, like Richmond Hill area. That asked, what is different? I mean, like why did you focus on this area particularly? And in addition to this, what are the values that you do you think um that is important uh is important to run by us uh community leaders?

SPEAKER_00 6:46

Thank you for that question. Indeed, politics, like anything in life, life is messy, yeah. So is so is politics, yeah. Right. Um it I've learned as um more and more as my experience um that we're not robust, even though I work in technology. I'd like to you know believe that we can do things cleaner, but no, we're we're human beings and in humanity it's going to be that way, and politics is not any different. And so I wanted to mystify the, first of all, the pathway for getting involved in politics and and work with the youth to build a pipeline and change the attitude. Because to your point, I think that um that's a lot of cynicism. People are turned off. Um, sometimes they've seen um other leaders uh, you know, um either not be responsive and rise to the top for the wrong reasons. You know, it's for us, it's not title. This is, as you know, volunteer role. And it's really important that I see that we start to build um a pipeline of people who have integrity, who have passion, who have energy and the interest to do good. And uh we we're different because I think that we're very accessible, we are very transparent, or our phone number and our email is is available for anyone to call anytime. And I and I like it. I like feeling needed that we can I like I I enjoy helping people too, right? I get something out of it. And so um we want to, it's only, you know, we work together as a team, but but with all organizations, I just think that if we unify, we can do some vision more. So for me, the the values are um to lead with love. Um I know that we deserve a better quality of life in Richmond Hill. And it there are stark differences. Our community is very um wealthy, very ambitious. Um, so many of us, as you know, have had the opportunity to live the American dream, but we also want the resources from the city, everything we're contributing to, to be back invested. And so those are some of the reasons that um that I think we're different is that we're we are committed to making sure that happens for us.

SPEAKER_02 8:48

You know, I would also give you a chance to share your thought process about what value do you think that you would bring, what good friend do you think you would bring, uh, because they would say here is it another person running for office. Yes, what's what what what would be different uh from those individuals?

SPEAKER_01 9:04

And I'm not here to discuss anyone, just I totally agree. Uh the prince or foster also your question is why people stay away from politics and they're free dismissing. But the thing is, if you want to have the assistance, you have to be otherwise, if you you're not uh using your most powerful tool in that democracy, is vote. Voting your power. Yes. So we have to use it. And then uh the thing is, first of all we wanna be bringing the accountability uh in the community or two elected officials. Because uh elected officials uh basically we need to bring the sources in our communities, uh our sending offs, uh churches, masques, uh hubs of workships, libraries, so people can get legal assistance. Uh there is like uh uh financial aid assistance program, so as well as federal program, as well as a states program. And uh so that's why is because uh in our household workshops a lot of people came there for workshop time. So when the events uh in the household workship or in the public labor leaks, so uh people can get uh a lot of uh people can get advantages from this. So that that's why. And first thing is we don't need to be when we uh vote for the uh elected officials or politicians, we don't need to be such them where they are. Basically, they have to come to come to that community, come to our doors, so they can uh provide that forces to our community. So uh that's why uh we are gonna connect our community to get those focus.

SPEAKER_02 10:58

Thank you so much. Uh as a religious leader, uh I do agree with that we must be engaging in public. So I'll say to our viewers and those that will be listening uh on this podcast, that we encourage you to vote, to go out and vote. Because at the end of the day, I often tell my congregation that when there is an issue of safety, you come knock on the door of the imam and say, Imam, do you know someone at the reason? I'm having a problem with my neighbor, have an issue with parking. When there is this uh there's an issue with sanitation, they come and document your you're complaining that you don't want to be engaged. And from a religious side, there is a rise of cape crime as well. Yeah. And unless we are engaged in political affairs of our community, then uh and ensure that people with a moral value is there, that have a thought process of absorbing, be a servant later. By seeing myself as a servant leader, and I would want individuals who occupy that that chair or that position to look out, not for the vested interests, their interests, for the interests of the people, the people around. So I would want to take these few minutes by encouraging everyone to be involved. And that's that's why I meet asked I've asked you the question, what do you think you would bring bring different to the table? Because the top focus of our community is that politics basically is not a community interest, it's all it's all talks. I mean, thank you so much for visiting our mosque uh the mosque yesterday. Yeah, we wouldn't argue today. But we're being open that Richmond Hill needs someone that advocates for them. Because if you look from the Vatican all the way down to the end of Liberty Avenue, but beyond that, we wouldn't be, you know, like one-on-one. If you look at the state safety issue, yeah, uh quality of life issue, there is their issues, there are concerns there. It seems as if we're neglected. Yes. And uh with the current status quo, I'm not comfortable with it. I am I I'm hoping that you will have people with that ethical uh value, that uh view, that zest, that sorp before before they become uh politicians that serve the people, I'm hoping and I'm praying that something positive comes out of this entire sentence. But you know, I'll I'll I'll ask you, you know, um how would you handle criticism or disagreement from community members of human face? Because I know how do you how you navigate with the criticism that is out there? Because the moment you say you're running for ballad days, I think we are not mature. People are not mature enough to say I differ from you in political position. Yes. And let's deal with that difference. You start they are targeted against family members, target against individuals, yeah, you know, whether it's in the social media. How how do you deal with criticism? Does it damper you in any way? You know I'm just asking about the uh how do you uh are you facing criticism again in the work you're doing currently?

SPEAKER_01 14:24

Yes, uh the criticism is uh basically it's uh part of life, but uh when when you're in the politics, yes, uh it is a is part of. But if you want to be a leader, you want to lead the people, you have to be accepted and very calm, and then uh listen to the people. Uh, there is a difference of opinion all over, but listen to the people, what's their problem is, and if you be a leader, you you uh you have to be solved the problems and uh tackle the their issues uh very well and what is the problem and uh we need to be solved. That's why is uh when uh we go out, there's a lot of things uh seriously come out in our campaign. But we are not everything, and but we will when we get elected, we think everything is on the elected official statements. We are writing on it. I'm I serve in community vote 10 in an education committee, uh in JFK point committee. And now the New York school system, public school. I like public school system, it's the largest school system uh around the nation. And while there is a uh we need an improvement in the public school, and we need to be investment in our public school. That's why we want to think uh we need to start the educational education program from fifth grade. So sometimes uh when students graduate from high school, they have something in their hand, uh second hand, so skills so they can get the job during their degrees. So people uh if not graduate from high school, they have something skilled so they can get the jobs. That's uh control uh homeless thing is and outsource property, and it is a lot of issues. When you have something in your hand, you can get the job.

SPEAKER_02 16:23

So thank you so much. Brother, you know, um many of our residents, being an imam, you know, are lucky to come this week. I'm sure this is not unique towards my community, but I know many residents are concerned about affordability, housing, quality of life. How would you advocate like uh for local local families?

SPEAKER_00 16:45

Well, that's at you know at the core of what ye are interested in in working on and being that um that voice to advocate that as there are programs and as there are developments happening and changes in regulations and laws in New York City, um, sometimes you don't always see the impact happening in our neighborhood. So we know we you know we talked about zoning, we talked about other types of development. Um there are a number of opportunities that I think that are just at our fingertips, including building a community center, um, and including um building emergency associations for our businesses downtown, creating like the the environments to have when we're town hall so that when folks come in and have issues that they're they not that they shouldn't go to you, but we want to help um bring bring bring the issues to the forefront for the elected officials and perhaps even working with the leaders and putting together roundtables for you all to regularly give that feedback and so that we can advocate going to Albany, going to City Hall, uh working with working with the folks even in in and you would mention federal to bring to bring the the the policies that uh sometimes you know you in order to become part of that solution, you have to work as the legislation is being made. And I've seen too many times, even when I was working in Washington, I thought that um as there were um incredible uh programs and changes, and I would come back to New York and say, how come it's only in Manhattan? Why is it only in the South Bronx? Why, why, why are why don't we have why weren't we selected um for those improvements? And so I really want to make sure that we're not only voicing what we need, but as the changes are happening, and we've seen that the mayor has started to make some of those um regulatory changes, how is it going to impact our community? And how can we plug into that and and benefit from it? And that's what that's what we want to make sure that it's not, you know, of course coming out and voting, but then making sure that the next step is that we're that we're we're part of the progress that's happening with the city and not left behind.

SPEAKER_02 18:54

And I think one of the concerns is what we all just uh equitable distribution of of funds, whether it's from the city or from the state, for our community. And it is quite lacking. Again, I'm saying uh our president Over Moss was highlighting to you guys that you don't have liberty, you see that you know, like they're not sufficient funds, or there's funds and it's not used for the road, the road itself. We have an accident uh where a person actually literally got hit down and and lost their lost their life because of you know, lack of safety in the road was not also safe because of potholes. And um, I mean I'm I'm very optimistic um about that. Queens being uh very uh Queens being the the most diverse borrower. You have people from all religious backgrounds, yes, like from the Muslim community, Jewish community. And I see that there are politicians, right? And that is trying not to bring people together, but to use their platform, whether it's through tweet or whether it's through their words, to divide that as uh you know, at one point I thought that it would be impossible for us to see something of this nature in in Queens being or in New York in general, that we thought this thing will happen in different states, not here. But we're seeing a lot of hate crying here, you know, raising his ugly hand here in Queens. Um and lately their politicians are making tweets that is trying to um somehow divide our um I'll say Queens here, Richmond Hill area, you have a mosque, you have synagogue, and you have churches right nearby. But I see very minimal collaboration happen in a proactive way, but rather it happened in a reactive way. When something happens, you then everybody comes up and for photo out. But we do not have, I'll say, I don't think Queens and our area have an organization that works together in bringing harmony for minority communities. Because if we do not stand together and look at the how common values rather than differences that is, that is used to segregate the space on color. And I'm gonna say I'm not talking only about religion, I'm talking about minority communities, yeah, the African-American communities, the immigrants, the LGBT communities, yeah, that everyone, the minority communities. And I think that we must form a coalition to show that our diversity is our strength, and we cannot allow politicians uh to basically use slogans that that intends to divide, and we must able to call out. Well, what do you have in mind like as a team? I mean because we start in from small, we're not looking down, we have to look at Richmond Hill in having these hard discussions.

SPEAKER_01 21:56

So first of all we uh must Have to reject the politics of hate. If any politicians try to be create that reason, we have to reject that and we have to come together and stand against them. Because they uh if any elected official try to be create that reason, he's in our elegance. Because writers say South America and uh New York State or New York City, there is a no any space for tea. But they try to be created because uh for voting purposes. And uh sometimes uh people are affected with the hate crimes, and sometimes it's bread and butter for you. You say bread and butter for them. But when people come together, let's see if there is a any uh hate crime against the Jewish community, against Muslim community, uh in any similar being. But we have to be stand against hate crimes together, regardless of any race, any culture, any religion, we have to be stand there as a human being, and this is the primary cause. And so because uh we wanna be about how worship is protected, safe, and uh we don't want to be uh any uh kind of division if someone created uh me and totally against it.

SPEAKER_02 23:29

Yes, thank thank you so much. I I know I'm I'm looking forward that if elected, that we could work, whether it's it or not, for us to work together. No, we could I hope you know we're hoping for the positive, but I'm saying it's an ordinance for us to work together in that because if there's a sense of belonging and connection to a community, I think we still down. So everybody's working in actually family. It's I was a very little production. So they I think one of the key things, right, um would be uh for parents and families often think about the mutes in our community, right? Uh I I know this is advocated in places of worship and they have many new programs. Uh like a couple months ago, we we saw uh a young man being shot in. You know, anyone will quantify for this. You know, uh I'll probably ask you, you know, what do you have in your mind for the youths in our community and what we can do to ensure the safety of our kids and our young people or children, uh growing up in an environment where many feel that it's unsafe, so we have to deal with safety. And in addition to this, how we can group them to be people who are tinkers and to advocate uh proper area.

SPEAKER_00 24:50

Yes, you know, um serving on the board for Richmond Hills Boys and Girls Club and Guinese Girls Rock Foundation, which is a high school women's leadership program, um, and New York Hall of Science, I've worked with a lot of young people uh uh around teams, and our intention is to be visiting um again with all the principals in the neighborhood. Our intention is to continue to expand the well part of what Bruno said already with the locational, but also um if we're able to build a community center in the neighborhood, it's one way to help break down some of those silos so that folks are not just um you know going to what they know, but we can build, build a stronger community and interaction and more opportunities for the youth to get involved and to get have have um you know other types of extracurricular activities outside of school. Um that's a lot of what we do with the Nine Swells Rock Foundation. It's sort of like a pilot that we think that we can expand that to make that available to more, to more um, more students because there's great learning that happens at our great college schools. I listen to them myself, but there's so many things that even I'm learning from the girls now in their programming, that we um we supplement that education. And some of it gets them thinking about college, something some of them gets them thinking about other other vocations. Um, some of the some of it is uh has them thinking about you know what they can do for exposing them to different professions. So um, you know, boys and girls clubs focus on sports. I think that's very important um for both boys and girls. I think that education, um, and then top, just to uh just to you know reflect back a little bit on what you were saying about the interfaith community, I would like to see actually a round table of the young youth groups from all the different um all all of the all of the uh religious denominations actually come together and have them um tell us, you know, what the community should be doing. I want to really empower them.

SPEAKER_02 26:47

We also give them that voice. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:49

There's a group that we're forming, it's launching this month um under the banner of um the World Guyana Congress, but it's not just for it's not just for Guyanese youth, but it's a young professionals organization that that's gonna be launching in a few weeks. And so just creating the giving them the mentorship so that and so that they can see the opportunities that are not just um right in the neighborhood, but but part of what we do at Guinese First Rock is take them into the city, take them on trips, even sometimes to Long Island, expose them to different uh, you know, what the opportunities are there. It's New York City. There's so much here, but we want to open the eyes and the hearts of our young people to see that to see themselves in those roles as well.

SPEAKER_02 27:32

So uh, Brenda, what were what do you have to say to about young people that are disconnected in politics?

SPEAKER_01 27:40

Yes, uh the uh youth is uh our future, and we have to be uh create the leadership for our next generations. And uh that's why we want to be uh our youth organizations, our uh house overships, our interface for non-profit organizations to be strong, to be connected with the resources. So when they have resources, and we also advocate for uh public funding, for the youth organizations, our uh household, non-profit organization. So government can uh their part is fair share over there. So they can uh invest on our truth and on our seniors. And uh for the youth is uh yes, uh that's why we we want to uh talk about vocational education and as well, but that's the sports program, because uh we we need to be of uh youth to be busy uh do something in the skills and the sports. So they they so there is a uh now any drug problems and uh mental health issues. And you talk about the gun violence. The gun violence is a yes, uh I believe it. There is a uh politics gone down over gun violence. Yeah. Any, whatever you Republican or you democrat, we all have to work together to make a strong law for gun control. Why is it is easy access for guns? Anyone can pick up the gun, go to households or schools, and this has happened from a long time. Yeah. In uh during President Obama in 2012. 25 children killed uh in the school in San Diego. Yeah, and after that, there is like a lot of attacks on how household workships and why we need to be why is America a strong system, right? Why we need not going to be controlled by guns? We need to be controlled by guns. Not in New York City, New York City. We all we need to be all over. So all the public can demonstrate have to be work together to stop it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:02

I I I totally agree with you uh where that is. So I'll I'll you know the time is coming to an end, so day for for our episode, but I'll ask both of you to share some important points regarding this election. There's a lot of people who don't know there's an election coming out because uh I don't know, lack of interest, everybody's busy with their work, um uh and so on and so forth. So this episode is gonna probably be edited tonight. I mean it'll be shared. Okay, so give people that chance to know, to make a choice. And when they make that choice, they will have to live with the consequences of the choice. And I'll say, are you comfortable with the status quo or not? So just inform if you can take a couple of minutes of your time to talk about election and how important that election is for people to engage. So take the time to go find your polarization wherever they are, and they're still there. Because their voice is their power.

SPEAKER_00 30:54

Your the voice is their power, um, their voice is the strength, the the vote is the strength.

SPEAKER_02 30:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:59

And we have seen in the work that we've done and the work that you do, how many decisions are made every year that affect our lives because of how we vote. So I'm for please so vote. Um, there are uh open uh polling sites at two locations at there at Richmond Hill Library, at Leffert's and Hillside Avenue, as well as Resorts World. And you know, we we have our website with our information. You can um Google us, get more information. We want to engage and talk to you and um help you if either if is anyone that needs like uh guy assistance and going to vote. But it's so important because the decisions that are being made affect us in the neighborhood, or you know, we're not at the table making help being able to contribute if we're not if if we don't have our community members um uh in office. So I'm I'm gonna uh you know pass it on to Mirinda, but uh you have also until the 21st to vote early. Um and then the the actual voting day is the 23rd, but you don't have to wait.

unknown 32:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:03

Yeah. Yeah, yes, uh as well. Our appeal uh and uh ask all people and especially youth to involve in the politics and uh in strict system. Voting voting power is your greatest tool. You can use it and you can choose a system. Yeah, and uh that's why we both running. She's running as a female district leader, I'm running as a male district leader, and we are running from sample of the B. It's called Operation Under Hill and Q Gardens, and the ugly voting uh start today is uh uh to the 21st, and the election day is on 23rd. And please uh elect us, uh she's running second time, I'm running first time. Elect us so we will serve you, but after that, your duty is make a uh uh accountable to uh seriously, avoid accountability to make an elected official accountable to public, and your res of uh duty is to be if we not next time say bye-bye.

SPEAKER_02 33:10

Okay, so uh as we wrap up, I just want to ask both of you, right? Uh, if you can have one word that describes your leadership style. Sorry, I'm a I'm a I'm a person like to you know, you know, I'm I'm I'm a person like that. I I'm uh love coach and also uh healthcare chapter. So sometimes I ask little words, you know, like yes, I I totally agree, sir.

SPEAKER_01 33:32

The leadership style is basically when you wanna be in public life or wanna be in politics, or your main duty is to serve the people and solve their issues. If you just send in for the title, you don't need to be thinking about politics and involved in the public life. Just get your check, stay home, enjoy your life. But if you want to be interested in the politics, you have to be work for the people and serve them. This is your duty from first case. Thank you, sir.

SPEAKER_00 34:13

So I love the word compassion. Yeah that really I think embodies what the why I um do what I do. It's it has the word passion in it. So it's the passion, but also it's the empathy and the caring for the people in the community I serve and and wanting to improve that quality of life for everyone across the board.

SPEAKER_02 34:32

From the uh spectrum of politicians or individuals, historians, who inspire you one length?

SPEAKER_00 34:39

Well, or even any general I've been reflecting a lot on Jesse Jackson, um, especially with what he did with the Rainbow Coalition. Yeah. And because Queens is so diverse and he was such a giant and way ahead of his time, I do think that a lot of what we can do um in Queens and Richmond Hill, we modeled after the Ringbow Coalition of Jesse Jackson.

SPEAKER_01 35:02

Jesse Jackson. Yes, uh I was uh in uh American politics, uh I was uh Peter Lee and Dr. Martin Luther King's because this is United States of America, and then we uh we need to we must protect the fundamental rights of people, their civil rights, uh human rights, and uh all voting rights. So because we are all equal and we believe in equality and we believe in service to deliver people in start just like sitting and that and uh and we must stop to uh any treason within our communities.

SPEAKER_02 35:45

Okay, and if both of you are elected, what is one thing uh you would like to in your community to remember about you and your community commitment coming? Yes, uh our uh uh in other words, like if you if you get this position, what would you like people to think about you as a person and your commitment to serve?

SPEAKER_01 36:07

Yes, uh our commitment from day first and uh our duties when we get elected. We we are just we are doing she is uh ex-CPO president and uh uh district leader. I already served in the community board and work with us a different number of organizations around the United States. And uh we are running in this election for purpose to work, to the people, and bring the sources, and this is our duty and accountability and integrity is our our integrity and commitment.

SPEAKER_02 36:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 36:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:48

Thank you. And I would love for folks to remember that we're opening doors. You mentioned, of course, bringing research, we're opening doors and building that pipeline for more of our community to have their voices heard and and receive the opportunities in civics and beyond.

SPEAKER_02 37:03

So I want to thank you so much. Believe me, I'm very honored to have this discussion with both of you, and I wish you all all the best. And I see uh your personality is very keen to people, and I'm hope that you keep that keep that up despite what life shows at you that I know that whether you're elected or not, that you have the heart of us, someone that serves and you look up for the people. So I wish you all the best and I pray for your success. Thank you so much. Thank you for the same.