Hot Girl Psychology
Hot Girl Psychology is a girls’ girl podcast where attractiveness meets attachment wounds. Here, we believe the darkest parts of your mind are the sexiest.
At Hot Girl Psychology, psychonutritionist Emahlea and existential psychotherapist Deanna blend clinical insight, pop-psych critique, cultural analysis, and unapologetic honesty to explore why attraction, chaos, confidence, and insecurity are often tangled together, especially for women. We cover topics like dating, attachment styles (but make it hot), feminine energy, jealousy, narcissism, ego, abandonment wounds, hot girl archetypes, erotic shame, inner child, pretty privilege, and the cost of being the fantasy.
A fun combination of dark, clinical and playful, Hot Girl Psychology believes beauty is about self-concept, self-trust, self-permission, and the courage to look directly at your own psyche without flinching. Being a hot girl isn’t a look, it’s a way of relating to yourself and claiming your power. Because hotness isn’t perfection. It’s presence.
Hot Girl Psychology
Feminine Energy
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In this episode of the Hot Girl Psychology podcast, Deanna & Emahlea dive into the beautiful world of feminine energy. They explore the differences between masculine and feminine energy, and why many people struggle to find a balance of both. The girlies talk about how you can maintain softness while living in a man’s world. Diving into the dark feminine versus the light/soft feminine, they describe qualities of both and teach you how to embody them using tangible tips and tricks.
Safe people and quiet strength are discussed as Emahlea shares a personal story of survival and growth.
I don't lead, I guide.
SPEAKER_03I don't lead, I guide.
SPEAKER_04I don't force, I flow. I don't chase, I attract. That's very much the chase, I attract. Yeah. That's very much the feminine energy. Or like I don't react, I respond. You know? Yeah. So all of those things are inherently feminine, but can have some blended masculinity in there. Yeah. So it's almost like secretly masculine, kind of like quiet power. Yeah. Covert masculinity. You know what? I like that. I like that. Yeah. That's exactly what it is. Okay, we should coin that because I like that.
SPEAKER_02TM. TM.
SPEAKER_03Psychology. Girl Psychology. Welcome to Hot Girl Psychology. We're a Girls Girl podcast where attractiveness meets attachment wounds.
SPEAKER_04Here at Hot Girl Psychology, we believe that the darkest parts of your mind are the sexiest.
SPEAKER_03I'm Emily, a startup founder and CEO, and I put the psycho and psychonutritionist.
SPEAKER_04And I'm Deanna. I'm a clinical psychotherapist, dark romance author, and recovering people pleaser. I treat complex trauma by day and I live it by night. What's up, girlies? First of all, Emily is wearing pink. Are you wearing pink for the first time on the show? First time ever. Our colors are pink and black. However, we are goth girlies, so we have struggled to wear pink, but we're gonna try for you.
SPEAKER_03We're giving it a shot. Yeah. Branching out just for you. Yes. Appreciate us. That's our be grateful. Trying to let our feminine energy come out. Yes.
SPEAKER_04Yes. Speaking of, that is our topic for today.
SPEAKER_03That is our topic for today.
SPEAKER_04Feminine energy. I love this topic. I feel like it means so many different things to different people.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04But today we're gonna talk about, I guess, just what it means to us.
SPEAKER_03Absolutely. Yes. So when you think of feminine energy, what do you not think of?
SPEAKER_04I don't think of weakness. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I don't think of weakness. And I think that that sometimes is what stops women from tapping into their feminine energy. Yeah. Is thinking of it as weakness. Yeah. You know?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Because if you think about it, we are not taught to tap into our feminine energy growing up. We're not taught to value being intuitive, to value being emotionally expressive. We're taught that those things are weak. So we are taught that masculine energy is the only road to success. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_04So I think a lot of people are afraid of their feminine energy. But when I think of it, I do think of it as softer than masculine energy, but I still think of it as strong.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Yeah. What do you think feminine energy is and how does it differ from masculine energy?
SPEAKER_03Ooh, so to me, feminine energy is like masculine and feminine energy can have different, I guess, qualities to them that are in the same category. So like fiery energy, there can be like um sharp energy, there can be like blooming kind of energy, you know, just like very like earthy kind of vibe. But they present differently. So for example, masculine energy can prevent as fiery in the way that it's like hot and intense and like overbearing and overarching at times. Um, and then feminine energy can be fiery in its speed and its intensity, and it can be something that's more lit up than anyone's very romantic. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's and it's that's the cool thing is there's like that yin and yang of masculine versus feminine energy, right? And then there's the young yin archetypes of the divine feminine and the divine masculine. Yeah. But for me, feminine energy is just the way we carry our own womanhood and how we see ourselves in the world around us, how we see ourselves in others, how we see ourselves in ourselves, past versions of ourselves. Things along those lines.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I I think would you agree that we should all have both feminine and masculine energy? Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I think so too. And I I don't think it needs to be a perfect balance. I think that most people may have one that they lead with more, or that is the more dominant energy.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04But I think that they should both play a role within your life.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And it's about finding the balance that works for you. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_03Absolutely. And what's cool about this is you can find the balance that works for your spirit, soul, energy, whatever it is you want to call it. And you can always find a complimentary soul out there. It helps you meet the gaps where you don't fill those holes for yourself.
SPEAKER_04Yes, absolutely. Yeah, that's something to note because you can tap into masculine or feminine energy depending on who you're with, depending on your environment. Um and so like archetypes, they are states that you flow in and out of. Yeah. You know?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And I think of feminine energy specifically as being very receptive.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04So receiving love. Yeah. Receiving experiences, receiving ideas.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Yeah. That's where it's like very soft, right? Because it's it's at a place where it's like willing to receive, which you know what it's like when like feminine energy is non-receptive, right? Like when it kind of trends more toward the masculine, it comes across as like just cold, I guess. You know, like it's not warm at all.
SPEAKER_04Yes. Yeah. Feminine energy in general to me is very, very warm. Absolutely. And it's also very intuitive. Yeah. And it is emotional, empathetic, absolutely creative, expressive. Yeah. It's nurturing. It's sensual. It is very sensual. Very sensual, very sexy. It's very flowing. Yes. To me, feminine energy is all about presence. Yeah. And depth and connection.
SPEAKER_03Presence and depth and connection. Yeah. I like that. So just kind of like being there, having meaning, having purpose, like emotional attunement and creating beauty.
SPEAKER_04Creating anything. Creating anything. Yeah. Like creating, expressing. Exactly.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Exactly. We have the feminine energy that bears life in many different forms, right? It's not just, you know, physically AFs having babies, but like across the board. It's just the way that we create.
SPEAKER_04Yes. Yes.
SPEAKER_03The energy that we bring.
SPEAKER_04Yes. I I think of feminine energy. Feminine energy creates and receives. Masculine energy does and fixes.
SPEAKER_03It's very receiving versus doing and fixing. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I love that. Masculine energy is very action-oriented.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Which is why I think every woman needs to have masculine energy as well.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04They need to be able to tap in and in and out of that. Um to me, masculine energy, it's harder than feminine energy. Not in a bad way, though. Yeah. I mean, it can be. Yeah. We can have the hegemonically masculine guys, the toxically masculine guys. Yeah. Right?
SPEAKER_01Absolutely.
SPEAKER_04Um, but at its core, it's it's a good thing. It's steady, it is decisive, it's logical, it's analytical, it's go goal-oriented, it is structured. Yeah. It is thinking versus feeling.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Which we definitely need sometimes. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_02Absolutely.
SPEAKER_04And I feel like this energy is, it does tend to be more dominant. Yeah. It takes the reins. It takes control.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_04You know, absolutely. It leads.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Which is why the feminine energy has to be receptive to leadership, right? Yeah. That's where when the coldness is coming, that's feminine energy shut off. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Yeah. So the biggest issue that I find is that our girlies are too, it's not that they're too tapped into one, but they are not tapped into the other one. So they have only feminine energy and don't have enough masculine energy or only masculine energy, not enough feminine energy. I would say I I find the most that women have more masculine energy than feminine energy, and they're trying to tap into that softer feminine energy.
SPEAKER_03Absolutely.
SPEAKER_04What is your take on that of people being like kind of just not having a balance? And why does that occur?
SPEAKER_03So I just look at it as like an inability to flow in between states. Yeah. Because flowing in and out of masculinity and flowing in and out of femininity are just kind of part of how we live throughout the day. I feel like we carry a lot of different values that can fit in different scenarios that we run into. And bringing masculine energy to some of our values, bringing feminine energy to some of our values, like a good attachment to your own value system makes it easy to flow in and out of different energy given when it's needed. And what that tells me is it's kind of like they're backed up, you know, or they're emptying out more than what they have energy for, right? So they're either backed up with like energy building up, being it um like feminine if it's being held back, like that's when it kind of collapses, right? If it does come out. So it's just it's just an imbalance across the board.
SPEAKER_04I feel like we've actually talked a lot about balance and the importance of balance, and it is such an underrated concept is balance of having all the things you want and all the things that you need. Yes. And masculine energy and feminine energy are both things that you need and should want.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely.
SPEAKER_04So I I have had friends that like come to mind of having too much of one, yeah, not enough of the other. Yeah. Too much feminine energy to me has looked like we love like the very feminine girly, right? Like she's very attractive. Feminine energy attracts. So she's very attractive up all on all levels. She's sweet, she's emotionally expressive, she's she's like that girl that just flows with the wind. Yeah. Like you never know what she's gonna have.
SPEAKER_02She's carefree.
SPEAKER_04So carefree. Um, and she's like in her element. Yes. Yeah, we love that, but if she has no masculine energy as well, to kind of balance that, it looks like okay, I gave you three options for restaurants to go to dinner, make a fucking decision. Why do I always have to choose? You know, and they're just like, hey, anywhere is good. No, you know, or like, why are you trauma dumping on this stranger? Why are you giving this stranger a hug? Protect yourself. It's it's like the the girly that's nurturing the fuck boy, and you know he's a fuckboy, and you're like, girl, what are you doing?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that's that but that's shadow shit. That's because like the divine feminine when she's rooted is sovereign, right? Like she is like understanding of where she is appreciated and where she's taken advantage of, right? That's part of like the hot girl psychology, is like not letting yourself well knowing where being taken advantage of is more likely. And the feminine energy that is like in the light or it has been alchemized, right, in terms of like younggian psychology is going to be significantly less helpless and significantly less reckless and significantly less decisiveless. Indecisive. Yes, significantly less indecisive. Indecisive less. Yes, I know what you're saying, uh they were gonna give me a PhD.
SPEAKER_04But so she she can set boundaries, she can stand up for herself. Absolutely. It's and that's where I feel like the misconception of femininity being weakness comes from. Is people see maybe a woman that is very tapped into her feminine energy and they're like, no, I don't want that because you're you're not able to do these things. Yeah, you know, that we need to do. Um that being said, what I see more of is girlies being very tapped into their masculine energy and not being able to tap into their feminine energy. That's what I hear from like friends, family, clients, coworkers. Um, and I feel like there's so many reasons for that. The biggest, we live in a man's world.
SPEAKER_03We do. Yeah, we really sincerely do.
SPEAKER_04So, like we're trying to adapt to that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_04We're not taught to tap into our feminine energy, we're not taught to value our intuition or value empathy or expression or things like that. We are taught that the more masculine traits are what will make us successful. And when we're living in a man's world, if like let's say you are a very successful woman at a company and you're not the boss yet, but you are, you know, at the boys' table, you're in the boys' club, are you gonna act super soft there? Probably not. You're gonna try to meet the men where they're at.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Right?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, you're gonna try to protect yourself to fit in.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And another part of it too that I see a lot is girlies feeling like their partner isn't doing enough, so they end up doing more. Right. He's underfunctioning, so she overfunctions. Right. And doing is inherently masculine. It is fixing, yeah, problem solving that is inherently masculine. And so she becomes the doer, she becomes the fixer.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And I feel like I see that all of the time. And something that a coworker taught me it's uh EFT in couples therapy, a lot of times we'll see a pursuer and a withdrawer. Yes. And so the pursuer is doing too much and the withdrawal is not doing enough. But the withdrawal doesn't have room to do anything because the pursuer is taken over. But the pursuer thinks that they have to do things or else the things won't get done.
SPEAKER_02Yes.
SPEAKER_04And that's what I hear so many girlies say to me. Yeah, if I didn't do it, nobody would do it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04So I have to do it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04But the more you do it, the less your partner will do.
SPEAKER_02Absolutely.
SPEAKER_04Because then they don't have to.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. No, it's it's um I uh thankfully being single, I've definitely gotten myself in that situation before where I've like been an over-functioner. Um, and my partner has been an under-functioner, and vice versa too, where I've been the over like it was in the same relationship. We were both overfunctioning and underfunctioning at the same time. At the same time during the relationship. Yeah, like we would like switch. Okay. Interesting. It was so weird. It was like we couldn't ever get in balance. It was, it was honestly very strange. Yeah. Yeah, there was no like um equal like distribution of like relationship fearing.
SPEAKER_04Okay. Yeah. You're gonna have to tell me who it was after this. Okay.
SPEAKER_03I have my theories though. Um, that's so cute. I love that. Yeah, I feel like I see another thing too, where people who are in relationships, like feminine energy is only brought out when it's trying to force something, right? So it's like trying to subvert, like subversively get what it wants. So like a passive aggressive kind of deal. Yes. Yeah. Like somebody who like wants to be in their alchemized feminine energy, but just like doesn't really know how. And so they have to use the like passive aggressive kind of pull yourself back, but then also do at the same time without like do without doing kind of thing.
SPEAKER_04Yes. Yeah. Do you know what I'm saying? 100%. Because I feel like I do that. Do you really? Yes, yes. It it reminds me of dark feminine energy. It does.
SPEAKER_03Um, because it's like it's like Camir, Kimir.
SPEAKER_04Yes.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah. It's kitten mode. Kitten mode. Yes.
SPEAKER_04What my clients would call it kitten mode. That's so funny. I like that. I like that. Yes. Yeah. Yes, kitten mode. Um, yeah, and we we should also talk about dark feminine energy versus light feminine energy or soft feminine energy. Yeah. But I do think that I actually do that a lot. I I feel like that's how I've personally been able to blend masculine energy into feminine energy because I have a lot of feminine energy and I always have.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And it has been too much at certain points that it has made me like just not be able to take up space, take care of things, you know, just like do the shit.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04So when I was trying to start doing those things, and I was like pretty, I figured it out pretty young that like I needed to tap into my masculine energy more. But I went just too far to the other direction. And it came off as very cold, like you had said before. I I mean nobody ever called me like masculine or domineering or anything like that. Deanna the Dominatrix.
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_04Because I don't think it was obvious, but I think that it came off as very cold. That was my version of masculinity. So instead, I needed to blend it, and I feel like that's kind of what the dark feminine energy can be is like a I mean, it's very sexy as well, but it can blend parts of masculine energy versus just having versus viewing it as this is feminine energy, this is masculine energy. It's like I'm sprinkling masculine energy into my feminine energy and then like stirring it up and creating something new. And so I don't lead, I guide. I don't lead, I guide. I don't force, I flow. I don't chase, I attract. That's very much the chase, I attract. Yeah, that's very much the feminine energy, or like I don't react, I respond. You know? Yeah. So all of those things are inherently feminine, but can have some blended masculinity in there. Yeah. So it's almost like secretly masculine, kind of like quiet power, yeah. Covert masculinity. You know what I mean? I like that. I like that. Yeah, that's exactly what it is. Okay, we should coin that because I like that.
SPEAKER_02TM. TM.
SPEAKER_04What do you think you lean more towards? Feminine or masculine, and how has that evolved over the years?
SPEAKER_03Masculine historically, like almost like exclusively masculine. I didn't even know that feminine energy existed until like maybe last year. Like low key. Like yesterday. Um, but like low-key, seriously. Um, when I'm with a partner, I can be feminine, but if they're really incompetent, I just turn into a raging bitch. Like to be totally honest. Yeah, I can't do incompetence at all. I hate it. Um, so I've learned to just stay away from partners who I find to be incompetent. And then I am very feminine, like super feminine, but I'm I can't be feminine around weakness because I don't fear many things, and a man who fears things is not going to bring out the feminine in me. So when I feel like I'm with somebody who helps me feel safe, like that just makes my body naturally feel safe. I'm perfectly happy being feminine.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Yeah. So it really depends on your environment and who you're with.
SPEAKER_03My most, my, my most feminine energy trait is that my feminine energy is responsive.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Do you do you enjoy being in your feminine energy when someone's able to bring that out in you? I think so.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. I haven't had it consistently enough to like know. But the times that it has happened, I would do really enjoy it. I would say that my feminine energy when I'm connected to it is very empowered. Otherwise, I'm very like um just kind of overfunctioning or underfunctioning. I have I have three. Empowered, underfunctioning, overfunctioning. Yes. Those are the only three I have.
SPEAKER_04We probably all have those three as well. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03I'm sure a lot of people can relate to them. Yeah, I'm positive. It sounds like it's the the buckets of of feminine energy, honestly.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Like it can be one of those three and no other.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. What you're saying about the people that you're with being able to bring it out or not bring it out or bring out more masculine energy. I hear that a lot. I feel like most girlies want to be in their feminine energy. Yeah. They want to be able to do that, but they can't do that. Right. They feel like they can't do that.
SPEAKER_03They don't feel like they have somebody safe.
SPEAKER_04Yes. They don't feel like they're Have a safe environment, so that could be a work environment, that could be a home environment, um, or they don't feel safe in their relationships, so friendships, romantic relationship, the biggest one. Right. And so something that I've uh told my friends and clients, and they hate, hate, hate this. It is if you want to tap into your feminine energy in a relationship, do less.
SPEAKER_02Yes.
SPEAKER_04Do nothing. Yes. Receive.
SPEAKER_03Only.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_03That's it. Yes. That's the only thing you can do.
SPEAKER_04Receive. And if your partner isn't doing something that's necessary, don't do it for them, or you will become mommy.
SPEAKER_03Oh my God. I was totally mommy in too many of my relationships. Way too many. Yeah. Too many. And then also like they were a daddy. But not in like a good way, not in like a hot way. Like in a like in like a not great way. Um, because it just It's too much.
SPEAKER_04It's too on the the pendulum is swinging too far to the other.
SPEAKER_03Yes. Yeah. So I used to just be the one or the other, right? And then the empowered is just I don't want to get involved with anybody until I feel like I'm not going to become mommy and they're not going to become the father of doom.
SPEAKER_04Yes. Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Yeah. So just learning to receive is also putting up boundaries with yourself and like not fucking going out and like, you know, I know we just did an episode on dating, but no, it's really important.
SPEAKER_04Like how how to be in your feminine energy while dating is very, very important.
SPEAKER_03And if you don't feel like you can be in your feminine energy, then just pause on dating.
SPEAKER_04Yes. Yeah, that's that's really good advice. That's really good advice.
SPEAKER_03Because you're just not ready yet, and that's okay.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I completely agree with that. I see that a lot too with people dating or girlies dating that they want a guide to be masculine but not domineering. And they're like, why is that so hard to find?
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Because they seem to be so one or the other.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And it's like, yes, I want you to pick the damn place. Yes, I want you to make a move, but don't tell me we have to go here. Don't order for me without asking what I want. Don't push me up against a wall if I have not given my consent to kiss you. Why is that so hard to find? But that's what I'm seeing. Like it is, it is very hard to find. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. You just like just don't go on dates with those people. Like you can feel them beforehand. You know, like you can truly deeply feel like when someone's gonna be that way. And when you talk yourself out of your intuition, that is you stifling your feminine energy.
SPEAKER_04Absolutely. I I think that that's a great tip too for for dating, is being able to wean these people out.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And then saying, okay, I'm making a boundary and this is a divine feminine thing to do. It is. Is to make this boundary and decide that this person is not going to mesh with my feminine energy and they don't deserve it.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_04Because, like you said, you need to be safe to feel your most feminine.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04So don't fuck with anybody that you think you won't feel safe with.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_04Don't even give it a shot.
SPEAKER_03And if your body tells you that you won't feel safe, like that is your body knows.
SPEAKER_04Your body keeps the score. I I feel like for relationships, girlies that are too in their masculine, I it's always do less.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I'm gonna give a real life example. And my husband's right there, so now I'm giving him like the playbook right now. But um if I ask him to take out the trash, that's his job. You know, we have like different jobs within the household. And if he doesn't take it out, I will never take it out. I will let it get all the way to the top, and I'll keep putting stuff up on there. He knows that I do this anyway. Um, but I'm not getting a new trash bag. I'm not doing, I'm just going to keep continue to do what I do. I'm going to do nothing, and eventually he will do it. There are a lot of girlies that are not okay with that because a lot of girlies have OCD-like tendencies when it comes to their house. But that seems to be the biggest thing that I hear when it comes to relationships.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And like marriage is people living together, one person doing all of all of the things and the other person not doing enough. And a lot of times it's the girly doing all of the things. She overfunctions.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And the boy, the boy underfunctions. And but a lot of times they just don't really have room.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04You know, and gender roles aside, you will always have your just roles assigned within the household.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04So just make sure that you're not doing too much.
SPEAKER_03Absolutely.
SPEAKER_04And don't allow your partner to do too little.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. You know, it's interesting. I grew up, my um mom did everything, and she wouldn't let my dad do anything.
SPEAKER_04That's what happens. Yes.
SPEAKER_03Let him. But he also never would have if he had had the opportunity. Right. Because he did not lift a fucking finger when he was in the house.
SPEAKER_04It was That was a system that was created before you were even around. Ugh. And then just became the norm.
SPEAKER_03Yes. So what I did was when I got married, because I got married at like 20, I was a little baby. Very young. So young. When I got married, my ex-husband, he did every chore that I asked him to because he grew up watching his mom do the same thing. And we were like, nope, not us. Um, and it was tough because like sometimes he just wouldn't do stuff and it would drive me insane. And instead of just continuing to pile things up, I would just be like, please get up and do this now. And then I would, you know, like I was young, so I'd be like kind of low key freaking the fuck out and being like, this needs to be done, or else I my untreated BPDS was like, I'm just gonna die. I'm literally just gonna die. Like nothing will ever be okay. You could tell it was the end of the fucking world. Yeah, it was the end of the fucking world. It was so bad.
SPEAKER_04So or will come down with his hammer because I'm that special.
SPEAKER_03I'm literally literally. So um he did though, you know, he would he would get things done, and then like sometimes he'd be really like delightful in doing it because he felt like he was helping and he liked that. Other times it was just me flipping out, just like, please, God, send your angel to save me. I feel like that's um that's been something that I've been really intentional about, is like not never ever ever being in a relationship where chores are not shared.
SPEAKER_04Yes.
SPEAKER_03Like I'm okay delegate, I'm okay like directing the chore experience. But well, I mean, like, okay, you do this and this and this, absolutely.
SPEAKER_04I think that's the only way to do it, honestly. Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_03I mean, in agreement, yeah, absolutely. And then, you know, but I'm not fine being like if you say you're gonna do something, fucking get it done. Or don't fucking say you're gonna do it. Yes. At all. Yeah. Don't fucking waste my time. So see, that's what I'm talking about. That's the like the demon from hell.
SPEAKER_01Don't fucking waste my time.
SPEAKER_03Or else.
SPEAKER_04Um No, I that doesn't sound like the demon from hell.
SPEAKER_03That sounds because I don't let the demon from hell come out anymore, but you can get on demon time. It happens.
SPEAKER_04It sounds like your masculine energy like needing to come out and needing to come out in a full force way, yes, and not a healthy way, but that's not something that you created, it's something that the other person created, and now this is the way that your body and your mind is reacting to that.
SPEAKER_03Yes, but in those times I wish my body and mind would have reacted by leaving and being in that relationship and all the other things that do that. Well, that's like responding versus reacting. Yes, yes, definitely. Um, yeah, but it's it's good to see like when I'm not with people like that, I have a really fantastic time.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Because I can trust them. I don't like being with people, like it feels like a mistrust kind of thing. If you can't trust your partner to like help out when you need them, yes, and do what they say they're gonna do. God uh pick my eyes out with a fucking ice pick. Like I can't stand that shit. Scoop my nose off with a spoon. It's so true. It's so real. I I'm borderline psychopathic about it. Like I just can't get out of my fucking way.
SPEAKER_04Okay, so switching gears, I wanna talk a little bit about dark feminine energy versus I like to call it soft feminine energy versus light feminine energy. Just because I feel like soft is like such an all-encompassing. Have you ever watched the show Euphoria?
SPEAKER_02Oh fuck yeah.
SPEAKER_04Okay, amazing. Okay, so did you see? I guess it was this last season.
SPEAKER_03No, I haven't seen the most recent season. I haven't watched it since 2022.
SPEAKER_04Okay, there haven't been many seasons, I think only two or three seasons. Yeah. Um, and a new one is coming out soon, but they're not paying me to see this. Um but uh and so can I give you a spoiler then?
SPEAKER_02Uh-oh, yes.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, so is his name or no, his name is Jacob Alordi in real life. What is his name in the show?
SPEAKER_00I don't remember.
SPEAKER_04Okay, well, I'm obsessed with him either way because I am toxic. Or just the toxic part of me is obsessed with him. Anyway, he's horrible. He is a very okay, I think our producer is looking it up. What is his name?
unknownNate.
SPEAKER_04Nate. No, of course it's Nate. Oh, of course it's Nate. There, okay, uh, dickhead guys always have a one-syllable name. I'm sorry to my husband name Jake, but it's it's always like Nate or Brad or Chad or Roy or Troy. Uh don't fuck all of you guys. I'm sorry. Um, I'm sure some of you are wonderful people, but most of you are not. Um so Nate, Nate um is the you know the main guy, and he's it's very obvious that he's an incredibly abusive guy. Like we all know that as viewers. Um, he's still very attractive, which is kind of the dark romance piece of it. But he is with this girl, Maddie, for a while, and then he starts dating her best friend Cassie. Um, so that's Sydney Sweeney, is Cassie. And he there's a montage where he compares the two girls.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And it's Maddie versus Cassie, and it is literally dark feminine energy versus light feminine energy.
SPEAKER_03That's so interesting.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. So if you can find that scene, watch it because that is exactly how I would describe each of those things. And he's saying that one is better than the other. I don't think one is better than the other. I think that you should have both. I think that that is the divine feminine to be able to have both. Um, but so to for myself, I feel like dark feminine energy is my aesthetic. I mean, that's like the aesthetic of this podcast. Yeah. For sure. It's the aesthetic of my books, like what I wear. But I actually feel like soft feminine energy, light feminine energy is like my soul.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. No, it the way that you dress is very um soft feminine, despite the fact that it's very dark feminine. I don't know how to explain it.
SPEAKER_04I I totally get that. I I feel like I try to have a blend of both of them, but I I I have a lot of soft feminine energy.
SPEAKER_01You're very soft, yeah.
SPEAKER_04And I I love that about myself. I that's my favorite thing probably about myself. The soft feminine energy feels really, really good. That being said, dark feminine energy is also amazing. I I find it that a lot of women find this more difficult to tap into. Yeah, because it's inherently sexual. Yeah. And a lot of people aren't comfortable being sexual or being seen as sexy. It doesn't even necessarily have to do with sex itself, it's more the sensuality piece of it. Yeah. But to me, dark feminine energy, it's very it's strong, yes, seductive. Yes, it's magnetic, witty, yeah, intentional, controlled. The dark feminine girly is elegant. Yeah, she's sexy, she's refined, she's mysterious, she's intriguing. She's she reminds me of she could be the femme fatale, the siren, but uh, the most extreme version of this to me is like she's the hot vampire that lives inside of you.
SPEAKER_03She is the hot vampire that lives inside of you. Yeah, I love that.
SPEAKER_04And we need her. We do we need her, we need her so bad. I feel like you can tap into this energy. You're you're gonna love us masturbating.
SPEAKER_03Yes, you fucking can.
SPEAKER_04Because the dark feminine should be very focused on pleasure, yes, you should indulgence, indulgence, you should feel secure in your body. Yeah, you should be owning your sexuality. Yes, that's where I think a lot of girlies struggle is owning their sexuality. Yeah, and there's a lot of reasons why we feel like we can't own our sexuality. For sure. Um, but if you want to tap into this, try to do that, you know, pleasure yourself. Wear, wear some black, wear some lace, buy yourself something luxurious, read a dark romance book, preferably one of mine. You know, like get into your shit and visualize who who your inner dark feminine girly is, who your inner vampire girly is. Like what what is yours? What do you visu visualize her as? I can't be just you, but like a very extreme version.
SPEAKER_03Um like just very scary. I'm I'm scary. Okay. I'm scary. No, I like that. I'm scary and intimidating. Okay. Yeah. When I'm at like my extreme self. But like in a very um when I'm contained, it's very calm and very scary.
SPEAKER_04Okay, so that that's the dark feminine because it's very, very controlled. Yes. So yeah, so controlled but scary. Yeah. Okay, I like that. Thank you. I like that. Thank you. What about you? What's yours? I feel like mine is very femme fatale. Very like femme fatale in the 50s. She drinks gin martinis. I don't drink gin martinis, but she does. And uh of course she's wearing all black, and maybe she genuinely is a vampire or she's dating one.
SPEAKER_03She probably is one, honestly.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03That makes sense.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. I feel like I've gone too long without watching vampire daries. That's what this is telling me. Because I'm like, I'm like having withdrawals right now. You know, it's like when I start bringing it up a lot, it's like I've gone too much. Okay, but so soft feminine energy. Yeah. What do you think about what is what is your take? What is soft feminine energy versus dark feminine energy? Letting them do it for me.
SPEAKER_03Okay. I can do it, but I don't have to. I'll let you. Yes. That is my soft feminine energy. Like, let them do it for me. Um, like, but it it like requires choosing somebody who does it. Yeah. Like letting them take care of it. But it requires somebody who opts to take care. Yes. Let them. It's a lot of like let them, you know, like so I don't need to. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's a lot of receptiveness. Yes, yes. For me, it's receptiveness because that's not the thing that I usually have turned on when it comes to pretty much anyone else on earth.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Yeah. Receptiveness is really important. I'm I'm big on receptiveness. I'm big on the yes and thing of being able to flow conversationally or just experientially. Yeah. Being able to be like yes and what else, you know, versus yes or or yes, but or no.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. It's an abundance mindset. Yes. I love that.
SPEAKER_04Yes, which I feel like femininity is very abundance mindset. It's very attracting things. It's very manifest, very manifesty.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I feel like the soft feminine energy, the actually dark feminine energy and soft feminine energy are very, very manifesty. I think that's just feminine energy, but soft feminine energy to me is very connected, creative, romantic. Yeah. It's sweet, gentle, nurturing, yeah, empathetic, joyful, yeah, peaceful, playful, playful. Yeah. She's she's a vulnerable girly. She's flowing. She's connected to nature, to animals, to people.
SPEAKER_03She's she's she's the soul divine.
SPEAKER_04She's the soul divine. She is writing poetry in a fairy garden somewhere.
SPEAKER_02I love that. That's very idea.
SPEAKER_04It is. I I have a lot. I have a lot of this. My feminine energy is green juice. Oh, okay. No, I like that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it's definitely, and we'll talk eventually about that girl, the archetype.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. The green juice archetype. The green juice girl. No, I like that. Yes. Yes, I'm also the green juice girl.
SPEAKER_03I'm the green juice girl. I'm the biohacking girl. I'm the like, yeah, take the best care ever of my body, my hair, my skin, my nails, my fucking face. That's a really important archetype. Yeah. Yeah. Like literally, that is my feminine energy, is my beauty.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Yeah. As far as soft feminine energy goes, I feel like anytime someone says, I'm romanticizing my life, what they really mean is that they're tapping into their soft feminine energy.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And so I feel like you can really tap into this by journaling, taking a hot bath with like lavender or something like that, being in nature, growing something, picking flowers, wearing pink. Yeah. Wearing bows, wearing florals.
SPEAKER_03I literally picked up a dandelion today and made a wish and blew it.
SPEAKER_04That is so soft feminine. I love that. I love that for you. Yeah. A big part of this is too being connected. So a soft feminine thing to do would be go to therapy.
SPEAKER_01Go to therapy.
SPEAKER_04Or have a heart to heart with a friend. You know, paint a picture, paint something, cry, read. These are all but read for enjoyment versus eat for enjoyment. Yes, eat for enjoyment. Yes. Yes. Yeah. I actually, so I recently bought a tea set. Yeah. And rose tea. And I feel like that was very soft feminine energy. That is so soft feminine. It felt, it felt very soft feminine energy. I feel, I feel very soft feminine energy in like the spring and summer.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And like Jake will tell you, like, I'll grow one tomato. And I'm like, am I Mother Earth? Am I better than everyone? Am I the divine fucking feminine?
SPEAKER_03Oh my god. Yeah, so grow something. I have my my whole office is like lined with plants. Yes. I'm like, yes, constantly. Like I can tell how in flow I am based on like how I feel about having to water my plants. Like I'll always get it done, but sometimes I'm just like, I am earth.
SPEAKER_05Yes.
SPEAKER_03Other times I'll be like, fuck, I have to water these fucking plants. And you can tell that's like literally being in your shadow feminine. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Yes, 100%. 100%. What do you visualize as your softest feminine girly?
SPEAKER_03What could she look like? In the most comfortable bed that ever lived. Ah yes. Such a good blanket, such a good mattress, like so soft and cozy. What is it like silk? Yeah. Oh my God. I have silk sheets on my bed. But it's soft feminine. 100% silk. I love that. And if they splurge, worth getting. Yeah. And they're pink. They're like the soft pink.
SPEAKER_04Oh, incredible. It's crazy. Yes. The soft feminine is also very cozy.
SPEAKER_03And cute. So she's she's super cozy in a bed. Or she like has her favorite tea and it's like, you know, full of the flavor that she loves. Or she's drinking a green smoothie. Yes. So like literally, like I am, I am juice, I am health, I am wealth. Um even when I like go to the gym and like look in the mirror, I'm like, that's you know, like it's softer. Um and it just feels it feels like soft strength.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. So to me, like my soft feminine, my soft feminine energy is like soft strength.
SPEAKER_04I like that. Yeah.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_03I love that. I love that. What about you? What's what is like soft in your like in your like cute heart?
SPEAKER_04Yes. So my like my yes. Yes. Yeah. My my cute. She I feel like she's like a renaissance girly. Oh my god. She's uh she's very, very like on the polar opposite of my femme fatale side, which is my dark feminine. She is I she's like a renaissance girly, and she is just like free spirited, running through a garden barefoot, like all fucking day.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I love that.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and just picking flowers and just like painting pictures of them and just like doing nothing.
SPEAKER_03Oh that sounds like just Soft and cozy.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_03That sounds really um serene.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it is very serene. That's why there is a serenity. Yes, yeah, definitely serenity. I love, I love, love, love being in my soft feminine energy. And I think that's that's what I have the most of. And I love being able to do that. And I hate when I feel like it's compromised by people. And but that being said, you gotta adapt and you gotta go into the dark feminine energy, which is not difficult for me. The more difficult thing for me is leaning into the masculine energy because that is also important too. And you need to be able to do that. And I've found my pocket, I think, of being able to do that. If anything, I could do it more.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Um, because it's all about finding the balance that works for you. And I think that that's probably ever evolving as circumstances change as you age. Yeah. So I imagine that that will be ever evolving, but I hope that I'm always able to keep the soft feminine side of me because it is my favorite side of me.
SPEAKER_03I think you will be able to.
SPEAKER_04I think so too.
SPEAKER_03You know, like it's just one of those things that um I feel like when you become a mother, it might shift it a little bit. But like it just it'll become more like maternal in a way. Yeah. Right. Like, not like it's gonna take away like the cuteness of it, but it's gonna take away the like um maybe little girlness of it, right? Because then it becomes like a bit more nurturing as opposed to just like only like it becomes more um a back and forth flow.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Like a give and take kind of thing, right? Yeah. Yeah. What do you think?
SPEAKER_04I I like that perspective. Yeah. I've always worried, because I do want to have one child too. I've always worried a little bit about what's going to be lost.
SPEAKER_03It's just gonna be passed down, it's never gonna be lost. Yeah, you know, like you, like your your kiddo gets that softness, especially if you have a daughter.
SPEAKER_04I won't think she's gonna I will not, I will not bring a female into this world, especially with my genetics.
SPEAKER_03I will never have a child of my own. Because what's my intro? I put the psycho in the psycho. Are you fucking kidding me? Are you deaf?
unknownAbsolutely.
SPEAKER_03Did she stutter? Definitely not gonna do that to a poor, defenseless creature that does not need that to happen to them. Yeah, that soul can incarnate something else, but I'm not fucking doing it.
SPEAKER_00No.
SPEAKER_03Um, because I know that whatever, whatever demon spawn came out of me would just not, I just couldn't. So, you know, I'm trying to be that light in life and uh having a demon spawn would not allow that to happen.
SPEAKER_04I I feel like that's actually a very selfless decision. I think so too. Of yours. Yeah, I think so too.
SPEAKER_03Because I I can be a mother of many other things, but like absolutely no.
SPEAKER_04It's just an archetype. You can lean into it and you can lean out of it. Definitely. Plus, I want to be a stepmom, so maybe a stepmom someday. Men. Did you hear that?
SPEAKER_03Yes, yeah. I liked I liked stepmoming. I like a stilf. A stilph.
SPEAKER_04A stilf. I remember you saying once to me that you want to be a safe adult in kids' lives. Yes. And I think that that was really freaking cool.
SPEAKER_03Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah, I do. I like being, I like um I didn't have one growing up. You know, I didn't have a safe adult. And if I did, um, maybe I wouldn't have had to go through as much as I did.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Maybe I would have um had somebody intelligent who could have helped me protect myself. You know, maybe they couldn't get me out, but they could at least teach me how to navigate it in a way that mitigates long-term damage.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. But if you grow up without safe adults, it'll be really hard to find the safe adults when you're an adult. Yeah. You know? And so that's what I think a lot of women are not able to be in their feminine energy because the people around them just aren't doing what they're supposed to be doing. That's because they've chosen the wrong people. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03If you don't like that, get away from it. Go away around people who are a little more conscious.
SPEAKER_04Yes, if if you can.
SPEAKER_03Sometimes it's not always a choice. Sometimes it's not always a choice, but you can always make a choice to, and this is this is coming from somebody who survived a murder attempt. You can always make a choice to fix it and get away. Yeah. You always can. There is, there is always some way. And all you have to do is just figure out what it is. Yeah. To get free.
SPEAKER_04Absolutely. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03That's actually that's something that I used to be very like, oh no, I was trapped, I was trapped, I was trapped. No, I figured out how to get out. It was it was hard, but like when the moment came, I was ready to run. You know, you set yourself up so that the very first opening that you find, you take it and you can fucking run.
SPEAKER_04Absolutely. Yeah. That is some divine ass feminine energy that you used there.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it's real. Yeah. It's um, it's it's a mistake that ideally you only make once, but it's something that you get to survive. And it matters to be really resourceful to survive. Yeah. Yeah. If you're resourceful, you can get out of any situation.
SPEAKER_04I completely agree. I think that that's a big element too of when people try to make an argument of like, why did you stay? Yeah. Because sometimes it's more dangerous to leave. Yep. And you gotta be smart about it. Yep.
SPEAKER_03I had to wait until that motherfucker was in jail before I could get out. But I got out. And I I just knew that there would eventually be a time where I had to save my own life and it was gonna be that, or I didn't, and then I can live. So, like you eventually find what motivates you. Yeah, you always do. And it's after a while, it is a choice to stay in a situation where openings present themselves. And when you really are like truly, when you survive a murder attempt, when you really are between like, how am I gonna get out of this and am I going to have to fight back to survive this? Like you realize just what you can survive. Yeah, there's nothing that makes you more fearless than surviving something like that.
SPEAKER_04Absolutely. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03It's like jumping out of a fucking airplane, except you don't know if you're gonna make it.
SPEAKER_04Right. It's terrifying.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. And cool. Like on the other side of it, it's cool. I'm like, that's that's kind of badass.
SPEAKER_04Did it feel like a new lease on life when you realized that you survived?
SPEAKER_03Um, it felt like the most what the fuck, how the fuck did I fucking find myself in this fucking situation? Oh my god, oh my god, feeling and then and then it was very, very much like I am so glad that I found myself in that situation because it brought me here. Yeah. Like I remember being in that relationship, like just trying to, I was plotting my time to figure out how I was gonna get out. And at the same time, I was also um like trying to understand like a little bit more behind the mentality of it, just in case like I needed to get in. I I don't know, I was pretty scared for my life. So I was like, you know, whatever. I just need to figure out how all this works so that I don't get killed.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Um, you know, that was when I was like plotting how to get out. And so, like another piece of like divine feminine energy is like it's clever. Yes, it's resourceful, it's clever.
SPEAKER_04Yes, I like the resourceful word for sure. I always think clever. I've never thought of resourceful though. I really like that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, even just being Machiavellian can be clever to be resourceful.
SPEAKER_04Oh, absolutely that's exactly what it is.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, an evolutionary advantage.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, 100%. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I like that. Yeah, I like that, and I really appreciate you sharing your story with us. I I think that it is really a really important story, and I think that it's unfortunately one that a lot of us can see ourselves in.
SPEAKER_03I know it's it's like absurd how many women have um been in really, really dangerously abusive relationships. Yeah. Yeah. It's like absurd.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 100%.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Final thoughts on how our girlies can hone their feminine energy.
SPEAKER_03Be intentional about how you present yourself when it comes to your feminine energy. Make sure that you don't put it out where it will not be received. Yes. And where you can't receive. And if you can't receive, don't open yourself up yet. Be protective over yourself and wait for the right time because there's no reason to leak your feminine energy if you don't need to.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. I love all of that. Thank you. Yeah, I I think that there definitely needs to be a level of self-protection and you can make decisions without being controlling. Yeah. You can take up space without being being aggressive. Yeah. You know, you can do all of these things and you can tie in or sprinkle on masculine traits into your feminine energy to make the divine feminine. And also be able to lean into both your dark feminine and your soft feminine. I think that they're both incredibly important.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I know that I talked a lot about soft feminine being extremely joyful and nice, but the dark feminine is also very important and very beautiful as well. And we should be able to own our sexuality. Yeah. We should be able to be confident in being the witty one in the room, being the intriguing one in the room. Yeah. We should take up space.
SPEAKER_02I love that. Yeah. I love that. Take up space.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. So find the balance of all of these things that works for you. Also, never be mommy. Never to a man child fuck boy. Don't do it. Don't do it. Not worth it. No. Not at all. No. No. Pick the right people. Pick the right people. Pick the right people. Don't pick anyone. Or don't pick anyone. That's fine too.
SPEAKER_00Don't settle.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Don't flinch, don't settle.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Yep. Exactly. Yeah. Make an environment where you can feel safe leaning into your feminine energy. So if that looks like being with a certain type of person, do that. If that looks like being alone, do that. Those are both great things to be.
SPEAKER_00They are.
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