"He was horrible, he gouged Paul Ince's eye out!"

Join Lummy, Skip and Dylan for episode 12 as they discuss all things football, recall stories from their careers and answer questions from followers in 'What's the Craic?' sponsored by The Warwick Road Bed Centre.

As usual a good mix of current affairs from the world of football, some stories from old and a lot of banter as they inevitably go off script. 

This week 'Bomb Squads' is the topic as they discuss their experiences of being in or around those groups of players that are out of favour at clubs and the various tricks clubs used to try and move players on, from unsociable training times and Saturday morning games to the more extreme sweat box spinning classes with the radiators turned up. 

The lads amend their predictions, again, as the Premier, National and Scottish Premier leagues all gear up for all or nothing finales and clown watch includes a Spurs player as their woes continue. 

On top of all of this sit back and find out who has passionate pet peeves around gym etiquette, who rubbed Vics under their eyes to fake flu before sticking on their Blue CD and driving home from training and who were the most aggressive players they've all come across, including one who poked Paul Ince in the eye. 

On the Carlisle United front we have discussion around whether Mark Hughes will sail off into the sunset, promotion or not, after this season and a little insight into how Jordan Jones got his three and a half year deal at the club against Simmo's intentions. 

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Right then, we're straight in. Mark skip boy, comeback is on at forty-four year olds.

SPEAKER_02 0:06

Lazarus. I know, I know. I was uh like I was telling you, I was a bit went on at half time on the last game of the season on Saturday against Crook away, because we had suspensions, obviously, and injuries, so bare bones was that's what we had. Um and I had no choice but to go on, so I was a bit when I well just before the what the whistle went, I thought, what am I doing? I'm 44 year old, what am I doing? And 55th minute, the second wind kicked in. Oh, but that 10 minute pee couldn't breathe. Couldn't breathe, mate, honestly. But then after that was alright and really enjoyed it. And as you know, I wasn't far off scoring the winner.

SPEAKER_01 0:44

Asked someone how uh you're done when you first got on. They said, Oh, I'm here, there's this noise. It was it was it, it was obviously young lads and it's quick.

SPEAKER_02 0:52

Is it quick? It's quick, is it? Um and do you know what you realise when you're on as well? They don't have look young. Um, but yeah, as I settled down and I think I played all right. Strike, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:03

No left foot volley, um, long throw that we've got, Henry Walker, he can throw it a mile. I was gonna say that. I couldn't even see where he was taking that. And he must have been on the doctor.

SPEAKER_02 1:10

Mate, I've never seen anything like it. It's ridiculous, and he just that's we just use it all the time.

SPEAKER_01 1:14

I like that instead of playing around at the back, yeah. Flick balls came full soccer.

SPEAKER_02 1:19

Yeah, we just played to our strengths, and uh the centre half headed it out, and I've I've screened for it on my uh on my week of foot that we were talking about last week. And I've I've hit it well to be fair, and it's come off the off the post, but I was boiling us daff it went in.

SPEAKER_01 1:32

I went and done. I took a phone call from Roddy on Sunday night after he's seen it. He went, We went up. Dylan, out weekend? No, not much. Um I've I missed a let uh this week, um a little neggo, so no game for me this week. But yeah, we've got a couple of games left, but nothing really to play for now. We're safe and can't really jump up much, so yeah, just chilled out with the family, yeah. Yep, I went to Jeff Hurst on Saturday night. Millie put on IM events. I can't believe how old Jeff Hurst is. Looking at him, he's fit as a fiddle, um, sharp as out, good crack. And as I said, I told you as off air, Millie likes to play this stand-up kind of bingo game. You get the competition, you get the last five, and they're all putting masks on. So you had a Harry Kane mask, you had another mask, you had a Jude Bellner, but then he had a sloth at the Goonies. So there's a bloke at the end with a sloth mask on dancing, and he's about a yard away from just Sir Jeff Hurst, who's scored a hapture in the World Cup final. I'm thinking, has Sir Jeff ever seen a sloth dancing next to him before he starts? But it was quality, question, answer, a bit of bait at the Holston, and yeah, and Barton's Yard. I had to tap them up, we might be filming in there one day. Good, good.

SPEAKER_02 2:49

Milifootron good does though, doesn't he? He does, he's he's good at that, he's he's uh he's very good on the mic.

SPEAKER_01 2:53

I know why you're saying on the coffee, but they do prava on tap, great paint. Jesus. Aye, so quick one. Did you watch Bayern Munich with Real Madrid through the week? Oh yeah, Trent, Kane, and Bellingham three unreal players, and Trent's not gonna get near that uh England score, is he? Do you see him for the goal though? Yeah, that's the goal. Yeah, he needs to tuck in. Like where'd you play Trent? He he's actually in the position kind of where he should be, and then just before the boy like passes it or crosses it in, he takes a couple of steps wide, they said there's a winger. And Kane's just standing himself, and he just you're thinking, How have you at that level? How do you think that's like the right thing to do? Yeah, you take a power, don't you? When you made a pro, we you we rarely get coached back in the day. I think there's a lot more of it now, but it feels to me like you remember they had the Galactic goals like Zadan and Ronaldo and that. Who's coaching that? I'm just like, well, I'm a lot of it come out and said that, didn't he? Like you kinda the hard part of Real Madrid is just managing the squad, imagine the eagles and stuff. Yeah, it's like he never really gave them too much instructions on the ball, just go and play. But Alonzo, I think, come in, didn't he? And tried to he tried to do a bit, didn't he? And I don't think it's by all accounts in the media, it's almost that they rejected it and didn't want it. Yeah, if Alonso's trying to get them to play like his ex-team, he's teaching them out of press and that, isn't he? Vinny Jr.'s going nah. You just do the one there. Do you see uh Bennett you see what happening? He's telling um Belling, like shut up or something like that. I see him because he's asking for the ball, he's kicking off on. How good's Bellingham? He's forgetting his class. Do you remember when Birmingham retired his number? Retired his number. And I was like, what? But now we know, don't you? That's why. The wrecking Celtic Nation are retiring the 12. Oh. Right. Bring back the nation. So Trent, where does he play? But Ben Ben White tears off though. He's still got to be in the squad for you. He has he just offers too much. I think if you're like struggling, bring him on. I don't think he starts. I don't think he starts. No, no. So you think he's like somebody more solid? Like if they're gonna go, but at all accounts it looks like they're gonna be built more free-flowing football go forward. He wants his back four to be more like solid. Yeah, yeah. And he doesn't trust him. So I think see if they're struggling again, they need a goal, bring him on like right wing or because he's he can only phenomenon. He's passing ability. Um I've got one for you. Jim etiquette. Yeah, boiling over the weekend. Yeah, I'll hate it. Right. I've got one as well as 12 cross trainers, right? 12 cross trainers. 12. I'm second from the end, so there's a 10 there. Next to you. Come right next to us. I want to know why you're on the cross trainer. I hate the cross trainer. I was you know what he does. I'm doing a non research. I was watching it, I was watching up and goal, and I was getting some ideas and he's parked there, him in this last park and not shut up. Just I'm like, how are man? And then doing sets, can I jump on, mate?

SPEAKER_00 5:56

No, you can't.

SPEAKER_01 5:57

I'm still doing if he jumps on, he's obviously putting the weight higher, and then he's doing it, now I've got to wait for him. But I'm not one of them who sits on the phone between sets for a long time, I don't think. On the surge machine, you've been jumping, yeah, yeah. You could check like maybe between a song or check your messy sort of for like a couple of things and then go back on. But I've got one right, so obviously down to JD Gym. Yeah. It's always busy in the morning the time I go down. But anyway, these most of the people wear like these big headphones now, don't really like the proper big ones. So these two girls come in, a couple of rows up for me. I'm watching them like in between my sets. So they've got one ephone on, one kind of behind their ear. Yeah. Right? And they're came together, so they're doing it together. So two of them have got the exact same setup, chatting away, chatting away on the phone, all this kind of stuff. And then she jumps on to do a set, puts the headphone on, batters at a set, gets off, takes it off, and start chatting again. I'm like, do you really like users have came to the gym together? Do you really need a big set of headphones? That's 36. For that, no, even 37. You shouldn't have them on all, should they? Like, why? Uh I get like see if you're going yourself. I do I put my little headphones and I just go and listen to a podcast what I'm doing. So why like take the headphones? Yeah, not wear them at all for like an until 10 seconds, bar that out your like what kind of music are you listening to? Did you listen to us? Well, hopefully, but um I just little things in it, you're thinking, like, especially you come to Jim Nigilla, you don't need headphones. No, you don't. There's uh Mr. Motivator, I call him. You get this little bit of space in Ballantine's, right? For enough for two people, not a problem. Not when you're doing star jumps and that. I'm doing my sets and he's hands flinging there. I'm like, will you get away from me? He's got the tightest shorts on, like a vest. He's been going for years, but I never thought about it. I know you thought about it, because I used to be a a member, yeah. Keep well of it is. I can't get away. We're in a song on that as well, don't we? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kill it. Yeah. I can't get away with vests, mate. Like, obviously not on me, but I mean like in general. No, it's cycling shots, isn't it? It's like little cycling shots. Mm-hmm. And you can see up. Could you see the lot? Ah but you can see a bit much. Hey, that's one of anyone Valentine's listening. Get that temperature up in that pool cold, you kids are coming out with blue lips when they're doing the shoe for doing the swimming thing. They're trying to get rid of the kids, aren't they? Are they the swimming lessons have shot are closed? To be fair, I don't know if you should have stopped this one. If you remember, it's a bit much when that that whole pool's shut off for this the swimming. You know, you're paying a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But in a rant about gyms, yeah. Anyway, right, so Jim, can I jump on it, mate? Phones, people exercising too close, and stay away from us if there's spare machines. I think we should put it there as well. Anybody get any yeah, pet peeves are called paves on anything. You see people on line up, they do a lot of filming themselves in the gym now, don't they? There's a boy had a tripod walk across. That's an old one. A boy had a tripod. And right away, like it's like one of them you know you don't want to look, but you you sometimes you just kind of look. Do you know what I mean to see what he's doing? And then I'm like, I'm gonna be in the background, like just stacking. He's gonna be watching you. What's your name? Like Molly May, like hiding in the bush, watching this guy doing bicep comes. Have you seen the one that's going a bit viral at the minute? This bloke's filming himself and he tags his instructor in. Oh, his voice note. Amazing. Listen, pal goes, stop tagging me in these videos because your your calls are you're it's not business, not good, and make sure that direct debit's in at the end of the month. Mate, I'll let I'll let the missus hear that on um during the week. It was amazing. But I think he's meaning to I think he's trolling him in here. Like he's meaning to he's like making sure he's formed shit and then tagging him in it. He's like, mate, it's bad for my business. And all that, like, bro, yeah. Uh skip your ex gaffer, Rude Hullett. Yeah, great joke of the day. Roy Keane said we'd met before to Rude Hullett. Rude Hullett went, well, he went in the hotel lobby during the World Cup. He said, Rude, you asked us about injuries. And Roy Keane went, Why is he asking us about injuries? Alright, I've had a bad knee, had a couple of knees, went, what you had? Rude Hullett went, get a pain down there and a pain down there. Went, really, what's that off? He went, just lifting trophies. He went, so they're all laughing there off. And that was the introduction to uh it was what's it called, Gary Neville's one. The uh quality call. Gary Neville was hammering that podcaster, the man you fan, he's bought his um oh the remember it's bought it, yeah. It's part of the and he's but he's still on it or something like that, and he's gets a massive Gary. You want to buy three in the middle, son? Come for it. Come for it. Right. Apologies, listeners. This could go either way, this could go tits up. This could on him. Do you right? Am I a quiz are our quiz master? Do you just want to go against each other? Or do you just want to work together and go against if you get it right, you get a point. If you don't, I'll get a point. If this goes well. Go together. Go together, yeah. Yeah, we'll go together. Right. Who am I? So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna read out their career. I'm shut of that. Right? When do you think of someone shout it out? Gary Neville. Ready. Right, first player. Who am I? Born 26th of December 1990. So that'll give you work out how old then. In Caffilly, Wales. Now you should be working out what age he is. Started youth career at Cardiff City before becoming their youngest ever player and playing in the 2008 FA Cup final v Portsmouth. A £5 million transfer to Arsenal happened that summer. He went straight into the gun as first team. And all that's. However, a freak broken leg at the end. Alan Radley. Just stopped being your track. Good. Yeah, good, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Shall I carry on what I would have said? Go on then. So a broken leg at Stoke hampered his progress. And on his return to fitness, completed loans at Forest and again a card of City. Would you have got it then? Once fit again, he made a 250 appearances for Arsenal, scoring 40 goals. Got the winner in the 2014 FA Cup final and the winner in the 2017 FA Cup final. He missed a pen, then he for Rangers in the Europa League final. It did, it didn't go. In 2019, he moved on a three to Juventus and got absolutely weighed in and made 49 appearances, scoring five goals for a seven-game loan at Rangers. He's just retired, hasn't he? He struggled up there. One season spells at Nice and Cardiff City, brought the curtain down on his club, which he also represented Wales 86 times, scoring 21 goals. Good career. Good. You won't get this one. Gally Hooper. Gally Hooper's always in one in Eastway. I'm glad we're together. Second one. Born in Derry Island, starting at Manchester United in 2005. This player went on to make 31 league starts for the Red Devils, forming part of the 2010-11 Premier League winning squad, as well as the Carlin Cup wins in 2008-09 and 2009-10. Two loans were sandwiched between these triumphs to Royal Antwerp and the Wolves. He left Man United in 2012 for an undisclosed fee to Everton. Darren Gibson. Come on. We'll see next week. Shall I keep going? Go on. He was part of the Public Island 2012 Eurosquad, was unused. His next port of call was a move to Sunderland in 2017, but only made 27 appearances before a drink drive and incident occurred, leading to his contract being cancelled by mutual consent. He was on the first series of Sundatoday. Yeah. It was felt for him a little bit. He struggled with him, mate. Good player, him. From there he went to Wigan, eight in appearances, and then he stopped and he went to Sulford and played seven times. Now I watched him and he was a cigar. Good. His groin went so I felt for him again. And that intrigue drew his career to an end. But he's a good player, Darren Gibson, I thought. I like that. Good. Next week. Yeah. Next. Yeah, I like it. Right. Again, welcome to our latest edition, our episode of Three in the Middle with myself, Chris Lumstone, former players Mark Boyd and Dylan McGeok. Wait, they're former. Oh, sorry. Two current players now. Two current players now and one retired.

SPEAKER_02 14:21

Actually, shall I come back?

SPEAKER_01 14:22

I think you've got that big bugger again. I can see it. He's he's he's getting on his step. Tell you what, on the way where he's playing, Penrith. Tonight. Today. No, he's played the final. Oh, tomorrow night, yeah. Can we go final Penrith, yeah? And I think uh you might get one of them. South weight, you might get in the team. Well, where I got left out. We'll see. By the way, we took the story in about seven minutes. I don't know what happened, but I got left out over 35 final after being in. Here we at the weekend was laughing one roofless. Right, and a big thank you to Capital Industrial Batteries based in Glasgow who manufacture and supply batteries, chargers, and accessories for any industrial project. Now, this is the people who we added businesses sponsoring. There should be a link up here because they can supply big businesses, batteries for golf buggies, e-bike replacements, camper vans, engine starting, deliverable, deliverable UK-wide. So anyone who needs a battery for cars, e-banks, e-bikes, anything, these are your people. And they've even given us a uh three in the middle discount. So if you get in touch with them, capital industrial batteries on Facebook, on Instagram, on the internet, have a look. Three in the middle, and you receive offers and free deliveries on first orders. As I've said, with the sponsor we've already had, there could be a real chance of a link up between them. You know, we've had Kia, ACC, we've had loads of different uh machinery, uh, Seggy, Flexi Rental with the uh hybrid. So I think I'll push them a lot and I'll I'll send it on to our other sponsors as well. So thank you very much, Capital Batteries, Automotive and Engine Starting Batteries, they do it all. So thank you very much. Yes, thank you very much. A good family friends of mine as well from Glasgow. So soon as we started the podcast, um straight on wanting to want to get involved and sponsors. So um I appreciate it. Yeah, yeah, it's probably good. Yeah, thank you very much. So use a tunel up then on who am I, yeah. So I can bring it back next week. Right. I won't be silly on I don't be doing players we've never heard of just to get back in the game. I was gonna do the players you didn't track back. Well, I haven't got enough. Right. So, following on from a few stories we've made and dropped in over the weeks, we've had a lot of questions about bomb squads and what they are, how they work, and our experiences or players with no experiences. So basically a bomb squad for me was when you were out the first team pitcher for many reasons, and you had to train either on your own or with a small group of like-minded folk who were also left out. So you could have two of you, you could have one of you, you could have ten of you. It depends what club you are at. So, my first ever experience of a bomb squad wasn't me. We got promoted from the championship to the Premier League. Alan Johnson, who was the left winger and had scored 20 goals, the Bosman had just come in and he wanted to go to Rangers and he wouldn't sign a new contract. Well, suddenly he still had a year left. And Peter Reed went, if you don't sign the contract, you don't play. But Rangers weren't ready for him, you had to wait a year to get this move to Rangers. So he was in the wilderness, and uh Peter Reed made him train at eight in the morning and four in the afternoon. Michael Bridges wouldn't sign a contract in Marbella. He got drunk and agreed a contract. When he got home, he didn't. And Bridgie, fortunately for him, got a move to Leeds about six weeks in. So when we were going home sometimes after pre-season, you trained till three o'clock. Bridgie was coming with away. So what happened with Johnson and did he? Johnson when I was going to he went he did did yeah, he got the move finally. Did he go? Pretty sure he went. I can't remember that. He went to Bolton. Yeah, he went to Rangers and it didn't it didn't really happen. Yeah, and he was. He was loved at Sunland, you know. He was a major fill. That's how I kind of got in. Them two, them two were like out the squad. So the pre-season early games, I got in on the left, tucked in, yeah, and then it went from there. But yeah, Alex Ray was part of a bomb squad at one point in the back of the game.

SPEAKER_02 18:18

Um I mean my experience was Gretna, obviously, because you know the carry-on was at Gretna with with all the money with Brooks Maleson. So obviously he When did you go to Gretna? Oh god, when they were in the champ? No, third Scottish third. I mean when you went. Yeah, when the money just sort of started, yeah. So obviously the manager's not signed me, so from day one, I just didn't get a chance. And then we were all with um I ended up with the youth team and David Holdsworth. Um, and obviously they trained over there. We were just miles away over there, and never ever got anywhere near. Um and it was a tough eight, like 18 months it was. So did Brooks sign you, not the manager? Brooks came on the pitch at halftime and offeredly and of a friendly and offered me. Said, Do you want to want a three-year contract? I was like, Yeah, alright. So obviously signed that, went in, and got told straight away, listen, you're not my player. I'm not Rowan Alexander. Yeah, I'm not happy with this signing. And that was it, I was just banished without even. Do you get a call for that? I got on a couple of times near the start, and then but basically for 18 months, I was just I was with the youth team and it's a bit of sweet though, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 19:26

Because like you've got a decent deal, but then you're the one in the middle of these two now. He signed you, the manager doesn't want you, you're stuck in the middle, like and there was such a divide between David Holdsworth, the reserve team manager, and the the first team manager, and Davy Hines' assistant that just didn't get on. So David Isles David David Holdsworth like you, or was he punishing you's?

SPEAKER_02 19:48

No, no, he was he was good with us. Oh he was he was good with us, but he worked us like so. He likes his spinning, didn't he? Oh mate, we so we used to do this thing on a Saturday morning. There was this like Saturday morning. It was like uh size of a small caravan, but it was just like a big empty room in the corner of Redale, but it had four radiators in it. So we went in and it was two spinning bikes and all weights. We used to lock the door, shut the windows, and put all the radiators on four spinning. Make you sweating before you've even started, and you come out of there dripping and nearly passing out.

SPEAKER_01 20:20

That's when I'd seen you in sports direct by buying some spinning shoes. Was it the bomb squad or was it like the fat club you were at? No, and he just but that was what did you do every day training your own?

SPEAKER_02 20:31

We trained with about the youth team, just me and I can't mind the goalkeeper who got signed as well. The two of us just got banished and we were with the youth team. Um it was do you know Danny Lennon? Yeah, yeah, Danny Lennon, um either with him or with David Oldsworth. Never anywhere near the first team. Um, but we did used to get weighed every Monday. Um, and the finance system was ridiculous. Obviously, they paid ridiculous money, but the finance system was so as mad as it sounds, I was as fit as I've ever been.

SPEAKER_01 21:00

Yeah. Rarely would go. I was never getting anyway. That's always the case, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02 21:03

Yeah, never getting any. And I was playing reserved team games. Yeah, and doing more and probably Foster team goes and I was playing. The reserve team games were just no disrespect, they were just so like you were playing against nothing.

SPEAKER_01 21:13

Yeah. Darnestly, Paul Hart, who's doing a bit of advisory for Carl. To be fair to him, he let us train. Me and Kevin Betsy trained with the team till it got to like opening, you know, the start of the season. Yeah. And and I just went, can you train on your own? Like, it wasn't arsey, really. And to be fair, you don't really want to be around it when you know you're not involved. So me and Betsy just went in with Andy Ritchie, the youth team coach, just changed on our own and trained and got off. But you know when you're at Barnes, you know you've got clubs gonna be sniffing for you. So it wasn't wasn't too bad. Do you know the thing with me?

SPEAKER_02 21:43

I credit is Davy Irons was was a bit he was he he used to pull me and say, Listen, this isn't nothing to do with me because I would have you involved. And he was but when I left, I went into uh like you like you know, I'm not m I wasn't really one for confrontation and stuff. I had to go in. Yeah, I had to and I knew he was in there with Davy Irons and Brooks was there. So I knocked on the door and I went in. I went, listen, you've got to let me leave. I said, I can't go on any longer.

SPEAKER_01 22:04

It was 18 months and I was I was in a bad place with it, mate. Would you were you not asked about the money, are you there? Well, could you are we asking for a payout? Well, I saw I knew I could go to Accriton on trial.

SPEAKER_02 22:14

Right. Um so I said, Listen, I need to leave. And I pulled the books. I said, Listen, he's never ever as long as he's here, there's no point in me being here. He said, Look, how long have you got left? Work it out. And he he he gave me a figure and I took it. And he'd done it there, and then the office. He wrote a check out in the office. Um and David Hines shook my hand and he's like, and Rowan put his hand out. Just went, Listen, I'm not shaking you on there. I said, You've been nothing but Torts of Law Season. So, but what I was gonna say was the training was alright, and the reserve team games would like doable. Do you know what I mean? Because I was I was playing games, I it was away from it. Yeah, I'd come from like League Y and I'd gone down to not being getting a game in the Scottish third. I'm thinking, what's happened to you?

SPEAKER_01 22:50

Mentally, and I was going out on more, and he was just a slippery slope, and then so I had to go away. Then you've not got that game on a Saturday and you go in on a Monday and you've got no to talk about, have you? Exactly. Yeah, I try to think some some player that's just retired recently spoke in the media this week about something. Lee Hendry. Yes, the Lee Hendry uh Chef United Kevin Blackwell. So Kevin Blackwell gets hammered by nearly everyone on every podcast. And uh Henry said if you if you've seen him now, you still would twat him because the way he treaded him and Keith Gillespie and and forced them out the door, and there's just no need to for people to train on your own. If you're doing shape, then that's fair enough. But let them in with the lads, yeah. Steve Storton, the bomb squad at Darlo was fantastic, we had a great group of six. Didn't want any part of that Dalton team that was shite. Your setup was a real the weekends off, wasn't it? Unbelievable. Like just sick and win, we'll we'll sign them papers. But I'll tell you another thing, I don't really want to hammer them, but this is so Jeff Smith, my mate, was it called with me, me and him signed a Darlington together. Well, Staunton liked Jeff. Jeff could play any position, so Jeff wasn't part of the bomb squad at first. He played, but then unfortunately he lost his sister-in-law in a car crash. So he went to the funeral. I I think this is 99% true. It was either the day before or after that. He went to the funeral and Staunton said, Can you play tonight? And he was like, And you know what? He played, got through it, but then on a Sunday we trained and Dalton had a carvery, he put a carver on at a restaurant, said everyone in for carvery afterwards. Fair enough. Jeff got off because of the week it's had. Staunton done him two weeks. Wow. So Jeff rang me and said, What shall I do? And I said, I'll tell you what you're gonna do. I said, You're gonna go in on Monday morning and you're gonna tell him exactly what you think of him. And he did. Um and for the people, but to be fair to Jeff, Jeff went, I've played for you like with the worst situation. And you find there's two weeks for missing out a car because I needed to go back. Staunton stood by it, and uh Jeff got sacked for calling them a C in front of the people that like because we've trained at the sports centre and he said it was in public thingy. Would that do to the rest of the boys in the squad? They'd gone with the that's what I mean. Like a manager, like you're making decisions, you need to think like how does that look to the rest of the things? Exactly, yeah. Although, like on a human level, like it's horrendous, yeah. But and then if you actually think I need to stand by my guns, but what is that gonna do? It's quite theory you go for what I mean. Like really you think nah can't because they all think I'm a yeah, see what they were on their arse Dalton and he um so all the bigger and as we're in the bomb squad, and he went and signed loads of Northern League lads who were just happy to be a pro, yeah, and a lot of Irish lads, so it was a click, but as soon as he got pedaled, Craig Little took it on, he went all ews back in. He said to the lads who were playing, he went, anyone like he says, I've trained these lads for six, seven weeks. He goes, not messed about, they're going straight in the team. Yeah, because somebody's know you've all got a point. I said, Lids, do I have to? He went, nah, you just he's I'll get in. Well, they went like I'm gone. I was like, Can I still love weekends off, Lyds? He said one day when uh he went, Lummy, he says, You're great with the kids, like training with them, the respect trick and this and that.

SPEAKER_00 26:05

He went, What about the next step? Why aren't you managed to use team with me on a sat? I went, Ney chance, I wouldn't need part of it. Absolutely need a part of that.

SPEAKER_01 26:12

But I um Keith Curl done pale, uh Billy Painter and Gary Dicker this yeah training on their own, had to bring them back.

SPEAKER_00 26:21

Last game of the season we had to wait we had to win still and they both scored scored, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:25

That's why I remember it, yeah. Brought him back. Football's mad, though. And it's based on like a couple of days, I wouldn't just like flip on its hair now. Did you see um Paddy Kenny? I sent it in the group. Paddy Kenny went into training trim, but Leeds wanted him out, so they took a picture and they kind of you know one of them hands laid that looked heavy, and they put him on the website to say he's came back overweight. Then Paddy put the real photo next to it, and he's done out, wasn't he? Yeah. So the the viewers listening, these are the tricks clubs get up, yeah, get up to to try and force you out, isn't that?

SPEAKER_02 26:56

Yeah, they do. They can be can be brutal, and then that's like you said last week when they're going about loyalty and stuff, they don't see the other side of it when you get threat.

SPEAKER_01 27:04

Sometimes the way you get threat, so there's two sides to it when you when you get you can knock a contract back in December, and the fans could be on you, and they could release you in June because you your performances have dropped or whatever. It works both ways, yeah. Yeah, or they could offer you a crap contract, and you're like, Well, what people are saying I'm not signing the contract, but they're they're ducking my wages, like the ones to sign it. And then they put it out in the media though, it's like, oh well, we're offering a contract, it's not to buy again, and then they'll know they don't know what to do. You ever had the one where they've offered you to to pacify it, but the the numbers are horrendous, and they're just basically saying you might as well just put the contract over and go, Yeah, we're taking the piss.

SPEAKER_02 27:42

Yeah, I know what you're gonna say.

SPEAKER_01 27:43

Just to cover us all, though, innit? Yeah, so bomb squads, yeah. We've got we've go on forever. There's fat clubs.

SPEAKER_02 27:49

Did see another way of looking at bomb squad is but it's not a bomb squad, really. You know, like at Newcastle when you're doing better than the youth team, yeah, but then say on a Friday they do again 11 against the 11s, and there's like five years left, but you're not bomb squad, but you're like, no, you may as well just go back with.

SPEAKER_01 28:03

Oh, I've seen something to see the 11v1s, and I've really seen some horrors. Like what has headlocked sabotage and like because obviously the first team was set up to start, yeah, and they're walking through patterns and stuff, and then the rest are like just mannequins, I mean like just mirroring stuff. I've seen some boys like just they know like say they want to play any of the six and stuff. They bought the bot and then he's just jumping on it, like taking the ball and let's they won't do that on a Saturday, they won't do that on a Saturday. So just like completely like we're not letting you get away with another one, Staunton, clown, set up his 11 call much against us 6'7 bomb squad, but we're unreal, aren't we? We're keeping it, they can't get it off us something against it. They won't do that on a Saturday. I went, they won't stand league because they're not as good as us, talking. I love that.

SPEAKER_00 28:50

Or he's like, Orney's dancing on the ball, Paul Harnison going meh.

SPEAKER_01 28:54

I'll tell you what about Paul Harneson. So when we were at Darlington, Gateshead were coming up through the leagues, so everyone wanted to go to Gateshead and get on that like that that that team coming through, and you didn't have to move or anything like that. So Dalton Reserves have played Gateshead reserves, and Dalton have played really well, and he's popping it and he's going, I'll get a move here.

SPEAKER_00 29:16

In the last minute, for some reason, he sat on the ball in front of the gateshead, dugout guy, and you kind of get it.

SPEAKER_01 29:21

It's all went off. He's went, I've crossed myself on a move, having that.

SPEAKER_00 29:24

So he sat on the ball when I was up kid.

SPEAKER_01 29:27

Hey, what a lot of army was. Oh, he fell off all honesty. Right, I've got a text in from Sam. Hi lads, loving the pod. Following on from the Pele chat of signing the balls, I've got a similar story. I became mates with Luke Joyce through a friend, so Luke Joyce was ex-carlisle. He was it there when I was he was a young lad in the team at 18 when I were away and came back about six, seven hundred league games, hasn't he, Joycey? Now head of recruitment at Fleetwood. So became friends with Luke Joyce when at uni, and I asked him to get me a signed programme for the Carlisle V Leeds playoff game for a young lad at school where I was doing teaching placement. He was having a rough time, so Luke, being the top lad he is, sorted out for me, but handed it over very apologetically before the game. He said he had to shade in a massive black marker pen box on the front of the programme, and it had taken him a while. The reason for the box was that Kieran Westwood was on the front and had just been linked with the Republic Violin call-up, and one of the players, when selling the programme, they decided to write Irish C hasn't on at the front of the uh programme. It wasn't you actually wasn't me, I wouldn't use that. No, so do you know who it was? Ah, it would have been Danny Graham. But I so you get the programme done for him, and Joycey spent 20 minutes filling it in because Irish sees on the front. Why the lads do it? It's funny. It is funny, it's so childish and funny. It's funny though. Right. Let's talk about the fans going to True Row Carla United. Phenomenal. Ollie and Mellison, who we coached at Ollie, yeah, yeah. In Finn's group and Finn Hoodie's group, him and his dad done it in a day. Paul and Ollie jumped on the bus half three, something out in the morning at Brunton Park, all the way down, game back all the way back.

SPEAKER_02 31:20

Fair play. It is. I mean, you know, you listen, you know what Carla fans are like in general, the the travel here there and everywhere, but I mean that's near Newkey, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 31:28

Aye, newkies not going there to end kids younger, and you just think it took forever, but some memories though, innit?

SPEAKER_03 31:33

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:34

I always filmed it and I said to him, I went, he'll remember that for the rest of his life. Like, as bad as like you don't want to be down these leagues. I mean, have you opportunities to make memories? Like, the memory internationally move it away down to the yeah, yeah. And that that true is ground, you got a lot of exposure with the players. I think the players came. Yeah, and uh you see you're seeing that online, didn't you?

SPEAKER_02 31:52

There's a lot of like interaction before when they got for bus and stuff, but a lot of people made like uh a couple of nights of it, didn't they? Lovely down there, so but fair play. The the numbers they take, not just there every week. Yeah, just what you play on now. You do you do. I mean, that um that semi-final at home, it's just gonna be like Bradford again, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 32:10

It'll be absolutely bouncing. So see see the game Saturday this coming week. Yeah. Do you play like a week inside? What do you do? I was gonna yeah. So when do you find out? I mean that some boys that eat a bit of game thing, or do you know what? Just keep going. And when I try clue my starting 11, get them 60 minutes and make changes, yeah. I'd want to play now. Pierre. You would want to play, especially someone like Linny who's just scored on week and week out. Ah, he's it even fire. Okay, and then you risk like I say, but just say one or one or two, maybe pick up an egg go or something. They'll have all the data, won't they? Because when is the game next week? Sunday. So it's Saturday, and then two weeks. Yeah, you'd get a full week then, I suppose. But um, if it was like a midweek game, then you would maybe try look after that Rochdale York. However, so you've seen the manager by the way from the Rochdale game. Who who did they play again? Uh Brain Trig. Brain trade. Has the manager's interview after the game. What's he saying? He's like the fixed. Aye. He's like the league of doing everything they can to make taff of this game and all that, the last game of the game. Oh, that's why it went on so long. Aye, 'cause it was a woman referee, and he's like, she she played, she put up seven minutes and were playing to like 99 or whatever it was. Like it's like he was hammering everybody.

SPEAKER_00 33:19

I think York stitched themselves up. Why? Because they sat on the pitch and they watched the game.

SPEAKER_01 33:24

I've seen that, yeah. Just went body, bro. Yeah. Rochdale had been thinking, got you. Yeah. Because they think they're up, and then they score, they go, right, and they can tell they hurt you. I got you. You'd rather not know and then just get in and go, Oh, score. Oh god, aye. But Rochdale, that's three weeks in a row. Is it three weeks in a row? 89th. So I think that's what he's like. Obviously, they they they need to go and score, do you know? But there was like it's happened a few weeks in a row where they've they're playing really late and he he was almost pointing towards that they're trying to get this this finale at the end. York on a near point, don't they? But they're not the type of team to go there and just sit back, are they? No chance. It's worse that. Absolutely. Could be 5-4 if it. I'd rather in the playoffs, I've been in different situations. I'd rather be a goal down than a goal up. We played all the shot in the playoffs, call out one-nil down, so we knew what we had to do. Just go. We played Leeds, we're 2-1 up. So you bit ah, and they knew just to go. Go for it, yeah. And then if they score, like how do you flip the switch and Bradford? Well, we need to go try score. Bradford the other year, we're one-nil down, right? We know what to do. Yeah. Bradford. Especially see if you're one down and you score. Ah, that's it. The momentum, and it you think's got it now. And Carl did, and we did all the shot we scored, and Leeds did against us, they scored in the first 20. Who went? Sorry, uh Northampton were 3-0 down against Cheltenham a couple of years ago and they got it back. They did, I've tried what in the first leg for 3-0. Went to Cheltenham away in the one. Got that some comeback. Who would Kaleo rather play then? Who would you rather? I don't want Forrest Green. No, I mean like potentially in the final between York or Rochdale. Like who would you rather watch that? Rochdale. Because York have got 20 players. Rochdale have got 11, haven't they, and a couple of good subs. I don't think they've got the step stept of York. Do you think York are stronger? I think mentally as well, I think Rochdale will be gutted more than York. Why? I think York messed it up last year. They know what to do.

SPEAKER_02 35:24

That's gonna be in the back of their mind.

SPEAKER_01 35:26

I don't know. It's psychologically, it's who's a shit house and who's not.

SPEAKER_02 35:28

Tell you what though, Wembley a lot of people ask me to like, oh, are we going to W. They're not at Wembley yet? No. Like people are like just thinking Cosgot at home in the semi-final, they've got a God given right to get through. Do you think one-off games worse? I think one-off games would, but I think I feel like the two I think yourselves.

SPEAKER_01 35:46

I mean, have you ever bad performance? Have any of them played in front of a like you know Brunton Parks like when he's absolutely packed someone think do I? Do you know what I mean? You're alright though. One bad performance, you think, right? Yeah. So say you draw it home or you get beat one nil or something, you think, right, nigga, next week we're gonna go for it. Whereas one bad performance, you're gone. I'd like to see how I'd like to see over the years from the first leg, how many teams have changed from the team from the first leg to the final? So Simon made about three changes after the older shot first leg. Did it? We were crap, and he he dropped some big hitters, brought little Brendan McGill back in. That's amazing. Who you're playing against all that as well. Just went, nah, I'm just going back to basics, left Adam Murray out, yeah, left Carl Hawley out, played Glenn Murray and Holmes, nuisances, put Brendan back on the right wing, and we annihilated them. Yeah, well, we went 2-0 up, should have gone 3-0 up, and then they scored in the last second, and we went the penalties, and it was that Glenn Murray and Brendan missed their pens. We had to save three pens in a row to go through. Massy Glenn didn't scored uh saved them all. No way, unbelievable. That was madness, yeah. So I uh good shout out for Gatehead. That's unbelievable. Gated were down, they were they were worse than a lot of teams that have 10 points adrift, something like that. They're mid-table.

SPEAKER_02 37:10

Talking of getting teams from working, Billy Barth. Oh, Billy. What a choice, by the way. Phenomenal because they were down, they were 10 points. I think they were both 10 points, weren't they? Yeah, I hope to keep them. Well, he's got a right good CV, you know, isn't he coming in there? And um, but the job he's done's phenomenal. I mean, they were 2-0 down on set, and they come back and win.

SPEAKER_01 37:28

His next choice has got to be his next choice has got to be a good one, hasn't it? Because you don't want to go to a bigger club who still can't go. You want to know what you mean, yeah. Because I think he can manage higher. Yeah. Well, what he's done in a short time. Yeah, what he's done in a short period of time there. It's just pooling that as well, though. Like it's few of the boys have seen, didn't it? Like, I've played level, like he's got good pool. Yeah, he got it to to get that lad who played for Penrith and went to file to get him on loan, but he went back dead early. Luke Hunter, yeah. Yeah, and he's good to get him, that's a I know. Um but you did I was speaking to a couple of lads who play and they said he just got them fit and he spelt everything out. And there's a few comments when they were safe under the badge saying, Brilliant Billy Bar, we've had enough cranks here over the years. Your top nans like that, but I was okay, right? So Gilead want to quickly talk about all the players when he's been injured. They've all said in different interviews, he's been tremendous on the pitch, and he doesn't always get that praise, does he? So it's interesting what you think of a player on the pitch to what fans kind of watch. Is that a lot vocally as well, do you think? Aye, yeah. He does the on-scene work as well. Yeah, he does, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 38:37

I rate him. I do, I think he's gonna be he's a big miss. Um I mean it's give is it Callum Wheeling's giving him his chance, hasn't it? No, yeah. Um gotta take it.

SPEAKER_01 38:45

But yeah, it looks like it's a bad one for the lad, doesn't it? Um so it's a nightmare for him, actually. Move back to North East, it's heartbreaking. I wonder if he does his rehab here. On your castle might take him in. But that's how like we spoke about lawyer and stuff and looking after yourselves. Like, your life can change in like a split second with one year. And now it's like, right, what what does he do now? Yeah, like I don't know if he stays at Caleo, they look after him or the next year or two, what does that look like?

SPEAKER_02 39:16

Like, how's he going to make money and does he get financially looked after by someone or not? Or is it a PFA job?

SPEAKER_01 39:21

I think the PFA they'll they'll get involved. I think I think if you're signed at a club and you get injured, even though you're out of contract, they're liable to look after your rehab for like another like. I think he'll probably do it north-east if he wants to move back, because I don't think he's settled in Shrewsbury. Um Peter talked about that, Peter Handy's side. God breath his soul, rest in peace, Peter. I played with him at Barnsley. But when he was at Grimsby and his pump, he um was going to Middlesbrough and he was going from £1,300 a week to five grand a week at Middlesbrough. Played one more game for Grimsby, ripped his Achilles. Oh no chance you got, honestly. Two worse night. Doing the right thing, playing. Aye, trying to do the right thing, and then that happens to him. And then other people have been lambasted for refusing to play, but things like that kind of that shows you why people do refuse though, doesn't it? Because it can happen. It's a worst case scenario, isn't it? Getting that sort of injury, but you've got to you've got to they say strike when the iron's hot, right? It's like and there's ways of doing it, I suppose. Like some people leave out the back door, do you know what I mean? And they'll really welcome and the front door, I suppose, like as they say, but if you if you do things properly and with the fans and the the people at the club and you're moving on to another club, and it if it's a step forward, then you can't really go. Like you're as you said, like the money there is just like incredible, like look after his family show. How do you how do you knock that back? Like anybody in any job, yeah, would never be like that. That's the thing, any other job. I mean you're getting quadruply a pay. But it's just how you go about it in it sometimes, it's like not the best. So real for him, but hopefully you reckon it's gonna be eight or nine, eight or nine months. Yeah, hopefully. It's gonna be bad, isn't it? Clown watch, oh go on there. I'm throwing mine in Morecambe Directors, Morecambe Football Club's board of directors, Ponjab Warriors come to the plate. Yeah, Derek Adams and Danny Granger already in the building. Yeah. So Derek Adams in his first time or second time at Morecambe got them up to League One, so they're in a bit of trouble, but he would have settled the ship or steadied the ship and went again. They sacked them in and brought in Leicester under 23 coach Ashver Singh Yohal, who said within his interview in the first three weeks, they will be one of the best football teams, footballing teams in England in four months. Seeing that clown. Yeah. You wonder why they make these sort of statements, don't you? Like you wonder. Just make a rod for your own back. Just you're like, go in, get your head down, get on with it, get on with it. Neil Wainwright was one of the coaches, and he's probably like, ah, I don't know. And when he's still there, isn't he? Don't say it. Don't say it. The people involved in football know, like, even if you truly believe that and you're capable of doing it, just let it let's be doing it all. Yeah, let it happen. Like you see Vincent Company like last week before the Champions League and stuff, yeah. People talk about when like he was getting slaughtered when he went in and knew like one of the best teams in Europe. And he's like, I genuinely don't listen to it. He's like, I was classed as like a disaster when they brought me in because I get relegated and now I'm one of the best. He's like next week I'll be the worst how we're gonna. Do you know? So it's like very level, it's like come in, you've not even done anything in the game yet. You've worked at youth level, just giving statements at Maukham where they were struggling, he hasn't even seen the players really. They signed the Ning Boys from the PFA camp that I was on in the summer. They all signed as well, yeah. A lot of the boys went there, um, which was good for them to get signed up. But um to be fair, some of the games and results I've seen that they've scored like pretty like decent goals and that and I think to be fair, to be fair, they popped it around here, but they got beat. And you just thought there's no end product and passing it for passing sake. A couple of really good individual players, but it's just the statements, it's the ball that it's a shame. Mockham's a canny club, it is all staying it's a shame they've gone down. It is Jim Bentley's staying on, isn't he? But I don't think he's managed. No, I think that's yeah, he's well he's just got someone by the throat and said I'm staying. So he bothered messed with your play together two years ago. Um right, anyone for clowns got anything else? I've got the the Tottenham boy, yeah, Simons Clown. Yeah, it's a lot of people talking about it. 75th minute rips the top off. Like I couldn't get over it, honestly. I had to check the time. Like I thought it was the last I thought what if I fell asleep for 15 minutes here, what's gonna happen? Like you've got twenty minutes left of the game, you're on a yellow card, so that alters the way you play, doesn't it? Like, what if in the last minute, so when they What if he could have brought somebody down or yeah? Do you know what I mean? And to be ill, yeah. So like right away, like your started changes, so why? And then sure enough, he put his on Instagram and he like the picture of him to ripping the top off and his celebrations. What he's put it up? Aye, there's a picture of him like celebrating. Passion or something.

SPEAKER_02 44:20

Plus some underneath where somebody was just all about like Heyman will will come again. Aye.

SPEAKER_01 44:24

There's something about like doing the last minute. What are you doing? And it the hammer kept going on him after the game and he kept acting like he was gonna start crying, and he's uh getting a little agitated. Then it's like oh that and again, like some fans see through it, and some fans are like that's a passion for it. That's what we want to. If you can't see that that's just trying to try not best to cry, yeah. I've got a bell up for you as well. I'm actually part two. Alright. Declan Rice. I seen it this morning.

SPEAKER_00 44:51

It's not over when he's saying that.

SPEAKER_01 44:52

The can't the cat you see him like looking up like somewhere. I think he knows the camera's on him, and then Odegaard comes over and he's like, The the the biggest like animated it's not over. Like, ah, his mouth is like oh so he can't. It's not over. He's went, it's not over. Give it up, and like I was gonna find all the lobbying. What? What are you playing at? I don't know. I ain't playing that. Speaking of pretending to cry, couldn't be asked one day at Barnsley, could I? So I put Vic's vapour rub there, and there put the old bugged up note thingy on, walked in, gaffer went, Oh you're right. I went, I got the flu, gaffer. And he went, get yourself off, jumped in my car, put blue on, straight back to Newcastle, but straight away, but all the lads were coming in, I'm an owner that's seeing it, lads, fix off out we go. I used to do that on a Sunday night before, like the night before school. They used to do that. My dad'd be like, I can fucking smell the vessel. Yeah, your bed. So we got Morcom Simmons Declan Rice Declan Rice. Well God, does he do enough Deccan Rice?

SPEAKER_00 46:04

Was keen on his case. I didn't listen afterwards.

SPEAKER_02 46:06

He was on his case, was he not?

SPEAKER_01 46:10

No, but like these I I I think he's brilliant, like he he's kinda good. Well leave me below, he's got a bit of everything, right? But like you actually look at like what he's produced, like what's he actually doing apart from just running about and it might be one of them when he's out of the team, you say, ah he has a big game. Tony War the only reason I can accept Arsenal winning the league for him, I wouldn't mind Rice winning it. Yeah, he seems like a quite top die as well, like but you're looking now, you're thinking like he's a hundred million pound midfielder, the driving force of that team, they've struggled for like five, six games in the league. Yeah, what what's he really producing? Is he dragging people about like what what's he doing? West Ham said he was gonna be the best centre half, didn't he? Another reason why people don't want Arsenal to win the league is the fans, you know, them uh the Arsenal TV and stuff. Still last week the 67-year-olds doing the thing. Doing the uh you see the city boy, he's the the bottle, the tears. No, you know. Mate, the camera goes on. Um he's an Arsenal bottle. Uh he's got a little plastic bottle and it's got an Arsenal sticker on it, and the camera goes on when he's scoring, he's like drinking it. Like it's obvious that the tears are. But then about five minutes later, they must have even cued up, he's definitely like involved with the advent because he came back on and he had like a top. I can't remember what it said on it. The camera came back on him and he's got like a top on and stuff like that, or that kind of stuff. Have you got it up? Another old bloke loving it, eh? Middle age bloke. The um City V Arsenal, what do you think? Who's winning it? Well, now I think City. Do you? Yeah, I do, yeah. Still think they've got a bit to do. I would love City, won't it? I would love City on it. Do you think they will? I think they will, man. Do you? They've people they play Burnley, don't they, during the week? Yeah. For the and that puts them on level. They play who? Burnley. And you think they'd be going for that one? They'd be going for both different things to try and get to try and get not just the win, but to try and get the win. So maybe they're turning to Brazil, don't have the teams that have got no that result there at the weekend now, it's like we've got them. And I think the difference between Man City and Burnley is that big that they could really get they could really hammer them. Yeah, I I think just early on, in it, like tetter sometimes when he's running on the pitch and the the set piece coach and like it's just it's easy. It's I know I said this before, but it's just easy not to like them. Yeah, I do. And it like Martin Ellie and stuff like that, and just nah Odegaard for me as well. The cat Gabrielle, it's like Audegaard just running about where he could pass it, but he wants to hold on after five minutes and then eventually passes it. I'm like, you're not really doing much. I like Harlem walking off just pulling a little first of the camera's gone. The sideway. It's a red card as well, isn't it? Gabriel. Yeah, of course, yeah. They said they came out and said it's not violent conduct. Not violent conduct, there's no aggression or something else. But you pull somebody's strand of hair out the back of their head, it's a red. Yeah, from a pebble out small I got. The red. Um Scottish League, Hart's Vibs next. Let's talk about the semi-final yesterday first. Honestly, I'm gonna need another transplant after this evil. So I was um we went to the Metro yesterday, Metro Centre, and then the missus wanted to look a bit shops and get some food, so I put it on Celtics on my schools app 2-0 up, something up that's um through. Checked it at the end of the game. Last lips of the last minute, I checked it again, tweets. I'm thinking, oh no, that's him, they're gone. 10 minutes later, 6-2. I know, didn't they score four in like four or nine? Flex the muscle. They bring on um sit man, had to change a keeper, didn't he? He got you get injured after he made a mistake in the first minute, didn't he? And then he's getting a bit of stick saying that he's faking an injury and that because he came off first half. But then a young 17-year-old come on. So he did. Did he? Yeah, a young 17-year-old come on. I think he done I think he he was probably a bit eager. He came out for one or two and get caught with I think the one or two of the four goals, but tough gig that's having semi-final. Someone's been in it. So in the title race though, Celtic V heart on the last day of the season. If Celtic's c if Celtic can't win it, do they roll over? So that Rangers can't. Do they would they? I would play Celtic Nation. Would they throw it?

unknown 50:27

Aye.

SPEAKER_01 50:28

Would they? Aye, how just Schmeichel's got one what Schmeichel's one should be. Um it's a big statement to say throw it, but if hearts are going for it, proper go for it. And boy like Carl McGregor's nursing and injury and the other boys, it's like put out a week in team to prove it can't you. You can put out a week in the team, can't you? Well they do it in the cup in that, don't they? Teams do it in the cup where they make 10 changes, so you would rather hearts won it. If a Celtic player or a fan, you'd rather hearts won it than Majors won it, wouldn't you? 100%, yeah. I think Hibs are the same boat where they play hearts at the weekend and they'll do everything they can to try hamper them. Do you know what I mean? So keeping up like good though, like that. That's very involved, much better. Um right, we'll go on to what's the crack. Let's do it. That's the crack. Got a few questions in, and again, thank you very much for our sponsor. War at Road Bed Centre, Julian. Thank you very, very much. And your furniture store on I keep remembering this, Brooke Street, isn't it? New and used furniture. So make sure you get down, and again, we'll speak about, we'll go down and we'll get some episodes filmed there. So from John Tyson, he sent in the question last week about the hairdryer treatment, and I forgot his name. When he said, Is it still does it still work or do you have to? So a question for you all. I personally think, even if we get promoted that Mark Hughes will leave Carlisle, who do you all think you should bring in to replace him if that happens? And please don't say Pete Wilde, who is ex-barrow and fleetwood, isn't he? So, John say anything Hughes will go. I am of the same opinion. Either way, I think he was sails off into the sunset, plays a bit more golf, enjoys life. Who to bring in though for? I say that the Foscow Boy episode isn't ah, I didn't think you'd be there next year, regardless. Yeah, I agree. Do you want my three? Go on. Jack Ross, Luke Gerard, Gerard, Bournemouth manager, yeah. Been around, done it on low budgets, knows the division very well, knows the players. Ryan Lowe. I think Ryan Lowe's a good show. Is he out of work now? Is he? Yeah. Yeah, I think he would be a right good choice. I think Ryan's the kind of I know him, he'd he'd get right into the whole club. He would go like create a not a philosophy, but a a standard to work off, everyone to work off. Like get everyone together, enjoyable, but you work hard, we stick together and have the nouse as well. He's got a good staff. I mean, he's been about, he's got the speed, such staff. Yeah, he's got a lot of people. But he's got everything, hasn't he? Yeah, he's quality. We played amazing, but we had crew. We were unbelievable. Gopy 5-1, he scored four. Did he? You know, when in five ones we walked off, man, I just went, What can you do? You weren't real, like they scored every shot. Yeah, but uh Ryan, I I like Jack Ross. I was in a dressing room with Jack Ross when I was training with Hartley Pool. He had just signed for a year. Uh lovely man. I met him at a Fleetwood's ground the end of last season. I introduced myself and he remembered us, and he he just said he's at Nick Castle and doing bits and bobs. Good job there. But will he not miss the not miss the dressing?

SPEAKER_00 53:46

Will he not miss the dugout?

SPEAKER_01 53:48

Yeah, I I always said Jack's I mate some none, so I know him well. And he he was on my UEFA licences coaching stuff as well. He was on them um doing the kind of tutoring and stuff, and he's brilliant, honestly, really good, really good. Yeah, especially now like the modern game and stuff, like everything's like fresh and new and very relatable with the boys and stuff like he's brilliant. Um the only thing that like I would love Janet was to come, like I think they're mate, like the the fans and that would absolutely adore him, yeah. They would adore him, but he's got a good job at Newcastle, and to get him to get it to get him away for that, yeah. I think he'd be probably looking up the leagues now to get him to walk and um to take to take something. But as you said, you never know, like you miss that buzz, don't you? Yeah, yeah. If we stay down, I really want Hughes to get this promotion. I like him, like him to get it. And as I say, I think I don't know why I think it. I just feel you know, when you get them little inklings that that might be it for him.

SPEAKER_02 54:46

That's I get ex that's the exactly what I get as well. I just think up or down, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 54:51

I just can't see him being I don't know why, I can't put my finger on it, but just not being here for the He needed the fix when he first came in. I missed that 90 minutes, but I think it's what goes with the job now. There's a lot more to it. The interviews constantly on, you know, it filmed it everywhere. I also see a bit of frustration in his interviews as well with with certain I think he's done well with some of the players.

SPEAKER_02 55:10

Yeah. But yeah, I think Ryan Law's a really good shout, if I'm honest. Um when you think about what he's done. Yeah, I think he'd be a really good appointment.

SPEAKER_01 55:18

Right. Next question, Andrew Monahan. Hi lads, I've been catching up on the recent podcast, and your chats about Sunder League got me thinking about my experience I had a couple of years ago. My team, White High Whitehaven Miners, a local side playing in the Cumberland County Premier League division, actually played Carlisle United in the County Cup semi-final at Brunton Park. Dylan played along with about other 10 first team players at the time. As you can imagine, we were pretty shocked by the team selection, and to be fair, we got absolutely hammered 13-nil. I was in goal with a barred back as well, so it was pretty relentless. That said, we absolutely loved the experience coming up against proper pros and seeing the difference in levels firsthand. And to be fair, the lads who played were top class with us throughout. It always makes me wonder though, from a player's perspective, what do first team lads actually think when they're picked for games like that? Does it feel like a punishment, a fitness exercise, or do you still take it seriously and enjoy it in a different way? Also, one more thing. Why did they then play the youth team lads in the final against a more established club than us? I hated getting picked for it, but you obviously come back from injury, and the minute the whistle goes, you take it serious, don't you? Yeah. Yeah, you can toss it off as much as you want, but once you once you get on the pitch and stuff, you you give it a go, don't you? But I mean Krokas had to go in for a 50-50 in the first minute. No, you don't. He was playing a pen wrist. I went, well, if I pull out, I'm not pulling out. No. So we done it and we both looked at each other. Why did we just do it? I'm like mad.

SPEAKER_02 56:52

I didn't I didn't. I mean, I played in quite a lot of them. I didn't mind. I didn't mind, honestly. Like you say, once you get into it, it's just it's a game, and if you do it right, you normally come through quite comfortably.

SPEAKER_01 57:03

Just depends where you're at mentally, isn't it? I think everybody it's hard because there's some boys who are in the bomb squad and being forced to play and they're like can't be bored. Do you know what I mean? And then there's other boys. Cold October now thinking like I'm gonna show the manager here, do you know what I mean? Like and get myself but I actually think I might be wrong, but I'm sure after that game I started. I'm sure I wasn't playing with Simon. And then after that, I think I'd done well in that game. It was one of them games. Do you not think it's a news lose situation for players though? Because if you get beat, you get hammered. If you win, you're meant to win. Yeah. But then I'm sure I'm sure I started the next game. Like, a lot of good, then yeah. It was one of them games anyway. I remember playing like a kind of reserve kind of game. And then after it, and to be fair to simul, I I he'd left me out for a good a good while. And he could see I was frustrated. Do you know what I mean? I was playing these games, and I think the way I was training and playing, and then he he just threw me in a Friday, nobody expected. Right. Um because I wasn't even travelling with a squad or nothing, he was just leaving home. And then on a Friday went in, sat in the meeting, put the team up, and I was in it. And everybody like you could see everybody like that. Are you not bluffing? Nothing. And then he he put this is why, because he and then he he said you might all be surprised that Dylan's straight back on the team, he's like, but I'm gonna tell you why. And he kinda made an example of being like professional, he's been so frustrated, all this, but he's trained well, blood smoke at mass, right? But he's like, you've trained well, you've played well, and that's the attitude, and that's what happens. You can sleep straight back in the team. So that was good management for him as well. I mean, so that's what I mean. Like, you can kind of play yourself back into his plans, or if you sack it off, you're done. Yeah, that's an example, isn't it? If you do it why you've got a chance to get him back in, it's good though. Uh Paul Honison again. They played in the county cup final and they played Workington. And Workington scored a pen the last minute to win it or something in the working lad score it and ran to celebrate and on his trips and all that's cause of brawl. Well, he had his pre-match in the uh behind, obviously, and he's going to Neil McDonald. We're gonna do it right tonight, mind. Shove the gaffer right up his arse, Neil McDonald eyes. Yeah, so see that final he's thought about. I'm sure the reason again I might be wrong, but I'm sure the reason behind nobody really playing in that was that was played like after the season was finished, did it not? I'm sure it was. Oh, so everyone was gone, and basically he didn't want to like bring boys back in. We played in sort of the week before, and he didn't want to bring boys back up because of all a lot more travelling. So he just played like the reserve boys. Simo was old school and that he hate coming, he didn't want you coming back in June. I know it's a change now, you do come back in June, but he's like when he got the Preston job, Danny Dicio was at Preston, and he said Simmo rang them up and went you're back on June the 21st. They're like, Oh, went and went, You're back July 8th, or something like get to pull a touch side. Oh, yeah, yeah. You see them managers who do pre-season for like four weeks and then give the lads a week off. Thing you've done it up here. Who done it here? It was teams that do it. What you mean to the off? So the kid three weeks, they've done three weeks and then they got a week off.

SPEAKER_00 59:56

I've never heard of that. I can't remember who the callel manager was, or find out.

SPEAKER_01 59:59

Yeah, sweet, they do a bit and then they get a team like the that's a mate, man. Tell you what as well though. Would you like the extra week and then sitting in the middle?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:09

The the guy who's you know playing at Brunton Park's always the pitch is always amazing and big. And when you see the lineup, you've got the pitch to deal with, how good the surface is and the first team players to be.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:19

But you are no play against though. Like I always see when I was coming through the youth, so again, why I name drop a lot of the players I've played against, like the re-amidad game. Like, yeah, when I'm sitting in that changing room and they started putting up all the dead. I'm like, oh, here we go. I'd rather play them than play the reserve team and get beat five now anyway. Well, I were over 35's team from 2007. This is well, I'm I must have been a big hitter. We didn't have a game, right? And Simmo played the first team in the county cup on a Saturday morning. He let me have it off. I thought I didn't play. So he's looking at I was like, whoa! Everyone else played, and uh Roy Holiday keeps going on about it. He tested Westward, sends it every so often. The news and star from 2007, Holiday tests Westwood. Had a shot, but it's all them lads. Alright. I was with Swifty and Dale yesterday. Had a pint with them, they were 35s. We're laughing, they're laughing at some of the stories on you. Um, I was telling Swifty that there's a young lad got in touch, Jordan Irish, and he said he can't get any air swifty still. Swifty's like 47. Mike's still plus, he's been touching 50, won't he? Yeah. So Tom Fuller has sent one in, regular listener to Tom, good lad. Bis great podcast as usual this week. Sounds like you're all getting into this presenting stuff now. Blags, Bill Man. Couple of questions for you all. If Dylan could pick a replacement right now for Mark Hughes, who would it be? Myself. There we go. No, um oh it's a hard one, isn't it? Yeah, it's a hard one. It's unrealistic, but Jack Ross is I don't think it's realistic. I think that's what he's getting as well. So for Dylan as well, after listening to the holy Thomas Holley nonsense about the squad going into squad going into League One, and he's put in brackets, none of them were up to par. There was a lot of talk throughout the season of players coming into the building, but then signing last minute for other teams. Could you drop some of their names? I know one and part two, how does that make the changing room feel? As I assume some of you have had pre-existing relationships with players who never signed. So players were gonna sign. I know there was one um he went to Port Vale instead, centre mid, and he can play right back. I'll remember. But he came into Carl to sign. Was he at Blackburn? Yes. Law. That's it. Yeah, Law. And he's he'd done everything, and then he got his dinner time, his agent, Port Vale, nearer home. Uh wasn't he in Carlisle? Was he there? I was training. I trained, I was right there. Um so that's one. Uh was there any more Dylan who came in and trained? I can't think of the top of my head. We had um remember Coch Coughlin, Graham Coughlin, and his Rotherham defender and Newport manager, and that he came in and I went, What a signing he'll be. But he he could still do a job, champ, right. And he he he trained for a bit and got off. That would have been a good sign, and yeah. But better would have signed at Sunland, but the bloke turned him away at the gate. But better. It's a Coughlin, it was Coughlin was straight out, yeah, okay, okay. Yeah, that's the thing, isn't it? It's like there's loads of different aspects of it. You're just it's not just football, it's it's moving the family, and or you're gonna commute. Lowe said it would cost them an extra 200 pound a month pet bull or something like that, like it worked out that way. But then as a as a club, you don't really want too many players commuting every day, don't you? Not like you want them to buy into the city and we had um we had a house we had the house when we played. We were an hour ten, an hour and ten. The Manchester lads were about in two hours, which but they stayed up twice a week, right? So Simon didn't really want you any more than that, but he meant Danny, Livsey, Simon Grant, Kieran Westwood had to stay up a couple of nights a little bit. Well so I know Sunmo tried to well a few of the boys promised that they were gonna they asked for like new deals and stuff, which they probably deserved, but they they were saying, well we're gonna move up, we're gonna move up and all that, and then he to be fair he called him out a few of them and in meetings and stuff about basically lying saying you asked for new deals to to come up and buy a house and you're still committing two hours up, two hours back every day, so it's like yeah, you're frustrating, yeah. Do you know what I mean? Like as a manager, like How you had the Jordan Jones one? So when we were trying to sign Jordan Jones, uh Jordan had had a couple of injuries, hadn't he? And Jordan was quite rightly wanting a two or three year contract. Similar went, I can't give you that, I can't commit to that, I can commit to a year with options, so if you hit these targets, you get it. And uh next thing, Jordan's signed on a three and a half year deal like by someone else who's signed it off. Really? Is that someday it's not at the club anymore? Correct. Oh how good you know. See, see, and that's class by Simo. Like he he had the club's interest at heart. Do you know what I mean? Because you won't think like usually it's the opposite. Usually the people behind the scenes are the ones saying, Oh, we don't really want to give them this. The same with George Kelly. He's very much of no, we know it's right for the club, and this is what I think. Do you know what I mean? Because usually manager's just like give him whatever he wants, I don't care. That was the thing, wasn't it? Simo is a local lad and he's still putting the club first. I would have been saying the bit if if the chief executive, whoever came to me and said, We're gonna say him on a four-year deal, it's not my concern. Go right, I might not be here before you're I've got the play out, he's happy, but to still go, you know what, I might. That's why the fans hold him in such high regard, do you know what I mean, Simo? Like what he'd done, but as a guy from the city, do you know what I mean, who like actual cares about the club? But that situation's if that is what that's it's mad, innit, that you would it's almost like the the Sunderland to the die spring, remember with the who's the manager again? Uh with who is it the signed? L Will Greg? Great yeah, well, I I don't want him. He's like, don't pay anymore. The last m the last day of the transfer window, a couple hours before. I think we might have covered this, but anyway, we'll go over it again. What's Jack Ross saying I don't want him? Who was No, it wasn't Jack Ross. Jack Ross signed me. Um Chris Goldman. No, I can't remember who it is. I'll get it. But yeah, he was he was basically it goes on to it's like right Sunday after Will Greg. Last year I was at the transfer window, and it's in the meeting basically with the manager, and he's basically saying, Don't pay any more than like two million. Like he's not worth more than two million. And they're like, Well, that's as much as we're gonna go. And then about two minutes later it comes up, Sunderland get the man. But last minute of the transfer, 4.5 million. But it films the diary, it films the owner of the club, and it's like he's playing a computer game. He's got locked in to egos, he's got locked in to winning this battle. Tony Corton's chief, he's going, Don't pay. There's another Richard Hill saying, Don't pay. And he goes, I'm going in one more. And like, if I'm Will Grigg, I'm weird, isn't it? Will Grigg didn't want to come? I was, I was he went, Ah no, I didn't fancy it. And I went, Do you now? He went, Ah hi. It was honestly it's like to be fair. Will Grigg, the form he was in at that time, should have got them. Yeah. I'm sure it was Jack Ross, you know. You might be right, you might be right. Yeah, I'm sure it was Jack Ross who said don't don't go. I think it was. I think now I think about it, I think you're right. I think because Greg, I think, came in when I was already there, so that's why I was thinking it wasn't, but aye, basically. And then on that documentary they were going for Chrad Chris Martin, remember Chris Martin? The sentence, and everyone thought Aidan McGee went good player. Whereas Aidan McGee did funny. But Honeyman was going, I don't know if you're uh he goes, I don't know if you're being serious or not. He goes, No, I mean he's a good player, but he's dry, isn't he? McGee. He's very dry. Yeah. Jack Ross? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because I think he's on the phone at the home at Jack Ross. He's on the phone and he's basically saying, like, forget Phil Parker. Don't push it, push it to two. Don't put it anymore because he's not worth more than that. And then if the Sunderland get their man, he thinks he's done a brilliant game. Went to five, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:10

Was it five million record?

SPEAKER_01 1:08:12

Like anyway, yeah. So but we went on to the things though, Tom, but great. Um great question. I I like it when a mate signed, I got Paul Thurwell over the line. So me and Thur grew up at Sunderland, and then like ten years later, I signed up for Carlisle. And people used to take the nick because my first question when I walked in, that Tristan was like, Where's there? And his question was like, Where's Jin's? And then we got Murphy's to go, oh, you two get a m and that'd be like it was the same. Same bat I went about 60, just hammering everyone. I remember there was a uh picture of Britney Spears, and Thur went, Wells, couldn't I have nicked her? I went, nah. He went, What? In me pump. Kirky always laughs about that. He still uses it. But what? In me pump. That's kind of well. I said, Cheers, Tom. Um one more. Hi, lads. Great work on the pod. I'm really enjoying it. And caught the wife listening when decorating. Oh dear. Alright. My question is who is the most aggressive player you played against? May not even be the hardest, but someone you knew you had to be ready against. Cheers, lads. I've got two. Go on. Michael Doyle. Set the middle. Chef U Leeds, Coventry, Portsmouth. I put the game. Horrible. Yeah. Horrible. He was the assistant manager when I went to hold his screen. Good player. Good player. I had a few promotions. Yeah. It was another one like Max Power. He was the go-to. If you wanted up a couple of divisions, special League Two, League One, he could play a champ, but I'm saying as he got older, League One to get uh you knew, well, you knew you're getting scraped down your Achilles. I don't mind it all that deal. Um Kevin Muscat, Wolves. Oh my god. He was a lunatic, wasn't he? He had it, he goes, I'm getting doing you in the tunnel. And uh Carl Robinson, the centre mid went, Lummy like he will. And uh Chris Morgan has heard Big Morgan sent off, went, Darn it, lummy, I'll be there. Get in. But you that we got another way, yeah. I just said aye, maybe be in it. Listen, I wouldn't mind gun up a tour to toe with a few, but I I'm not a muscat when I was 20.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:17

Dun Bellamy, didn't he? Horrible play.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:19

He was good manager, apparently now. Been licked with Rangers a lot, didn't he? The last few the last few got a flip.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:27

Mine was Curtis Woodhouse. Curtis. Mate, he bullied me when we played. He played he came away to we played, I think it was Grimsby. Was he at Grimsby? Jeff Hugh. Yeah, he was Grimsby. And uh that was in the the National League, yeah. And uh he was he was he was getting on though. Yeah. So he sort of like changed it to where he just he was a bully. Good lad, Curtis. Bully went to Mill Cup with him. I think it was more vocal than anything else. Um and he just talked his way through it, but he was he was horrible that night.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:55

He had a good he had he applied for, yeah. When holds others, yeah, he tried to get the job, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:59

Yeah, yeah, I mean he was he was a boxer, he's a good career boxer as well, wasn't he? Yeah, a great lad kid. I just don't remember him. But I'll tell you, on my own team was my manager, Darren Sheridan.

unknown 1:11:09

Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:09

He used to get his finger and like guys gouged people all the time. That just that one finger used to go in people's eyes all the time.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:18

Dylan's too young, but when Bonzie got in the Premier League, they played Liverpool, didn't it? Yeah, and Barnesy had like three people sent off and like kicked off. And uh Ince said something, Darren Sheridan just went eh.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:31

But it wasn't any other thing, just that one finger like that in the eye, and he got so many, but he was he was like he'd like scrape it down the back of his eye or the dots.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:40

And used to wear big long sharp metal stuff. Ah, was it all sport boots? Remember that why do you want to? You'd hear them come down the tunnel, wouldn't you? That old concrete, like Kid Krow was a nasty bastard. Played against him for wolves. Ah, he was nasty. But that's probably when you you can get away with it. You could do it then, couldn't you? Really? Not now. You can't like you could like the Billy Whitehurst and McHalford went, they just throw an elbow. He broke a nose every game.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:03

How we're that Billy White isn't he's the one you always hear under the hardest player.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:08

I'd just say, wow, he was the scariest man ever. I don't mind people being hard and packed, isn't it? But see the see the we fly elbows and all that kind of stuff. Like, I'd have no time for it. Terrible for it. Graham Anthony.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:19

Is he? He was he was in we played him in pre-season for I was a bad penetrath. Elbow and you no, no, not to me. Like um Jason Walker and Nick Rogan up front. I was I was like, what are you doing? You done Gary Gill in the county cup final? Accidentally.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:37

I think that's footage actually. They filmed it, didn't they? And you give it the elbow. I was like, what are you doing? But Graham, Graham could leave it in, but on the slide, you know what I mean? Because he wasn't that type of he was a proper player, Graham. He's a really good player. We're gonna get him on. He took the corner when Jimmy Glass scored the keeper. Yeah, he took Corber, he's got some stories, had a good career, didn't he? In that funny guy, reality. Yeah, he's funny. We'll talk about the Tony Hopper charity do as well, wouldn't we? We'll make that. But uh I the one that's going viral at the minute, everyone's talking about Danny Shitu, haven't they? You spoke about him. Yeah, yeah. Marlon Harewood was a big lad. Carlton Cole. I remember when I said you come out pumping his chest and he was rocking thinking. Of course he did. I've heard the stories. Honestly, you should come out like doing this, and he was about six foot five high. But that wife wants three things on you. Oh, look at him going, well, Carlton Cole and Martin Hairwood, and that were going, he's just going, Robert Earnshow's going, who is this guy in his little Welsh? And then DeFoe went, they're walking out for the youth team, Charful V, whatever, and shitters looking at him. Defore's guy, who is the guy? He's got to eat him. Chris Morgan, even in training, he was just tough, man. The US does he's gonna be able to do that. I tell you who was bloody hard without being hard, like Alan Smith, ex-Leads Man United Newcastle, ran into him just naturally solid. Solid he was a fine. I tell you, used to kick you when he had the ball, Neil Wayne, right? Neil Wayne would take you on and trick and top you. Like, what are you doing, Wayney? Wayne's good ladder. But I great Christian, yeah. There's a lot of hard, hard people about to be fair. A lot more old school, isn't it? Because like you say, you don't get away with it now, do you? Do you remember um Barry Robson?

unknown 1:14:17

Do you remember?

SPEAKER_01 1:14:18

Yeah, yeah. Oh, I never played against Barry Robson, but supposingly there was like things in the media and that. See, when he retired from Celtic or moved on and whatever he went, supposingly the Rangers players they said like the basically they they were celebrating when they left because he was like so hard to play against because he was just like a bulldoze, like just running through people, like barging like and that kind of solid yeah, yeah. I went on trial at Rangers when I was 14, and he was one of the lads older than me, and he was getting bollocked off the youth coach for being overweight, tied off. And I seen him in Tenerife in about 1998, and he was again life and soul, it's Stenosmuir or something like that. Next thing is it Dundee United Abbey or Dundee United. And I've just clocked him, I've said to Grant Smith who played with us at the time, Grant Smith played for like I went that Barry Robson, and as I said his name, he went Oleg. He went the biggest comeback ever. He went, he's just gone from there to there, and then next thing he's he's Celtic, Aberdeen, Middlesbrough, taking the Champions League. He would play anywhere for Celtic because he was one of them players who he'd run all day, tackle, he's got decent left foot, just hot like horrible to play. I'll guarantee if you most people played that kind of either in Scotland would put him in as a top three of players you don't want to play against. Ah, a difficult opponent. I because he's just play as well. Yeah, he was a good player. He used to see his pens, he used to take pens, Celtic, and he used to run about 20 yards. Now he was like out the box, and he would run in the ref with blow the whistle and then he'd just take off and smash it. Like his brow it. Right. Well, we'll wrap this up, we'll float through it. Text from Chris Brunskill, ex Carly United Physio. Yeah. Alright. Good evening, fellas. Loving the pod. It's helped me through my longer training runs for Sunders Manchester Marathon, doing it to raise money for hospice at home, Carlisle and Lakeland, and also in honour of my auntie who sadly passed away last year after a 14 year battle with cancer. By the time you record next, I reckon the race will be finished, and hopefully I've survived and made it to the finish line. But as a donation page will still be open, and I thought was still worth sending the link over in case anyone can donate anything big or small to help me raise as much as possible. Keep up the good work, love the bushead episode, and can't wait to hear more of the special guest episodes. Quick shout out to Dylan. Only got to spend the league one season together, but a top pro, and regardless of a few frustrating injuries, remained an absolute gent and one of the good guys in the game. All the best lads. And there's a just given page, and we'll get that fired up today. Yeah. He's a good great lad. I took uh a couple of people down to see him where Dolly works. He works with Dolly and Dan. Right. And they do the uh appointments and sort backs out and knees and stuff. Yeah. But yeah, he's done the race, but we'll get on to that.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:01

Yeah, player knocking a marathon out, like honestly. You get my respect for that, so I hope it went well for him because it was yesterday, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_01 1:17:06

Yeah, no, he's doing well. Like I appreciate that. Chris he's he's top guy, and as I said, didn't spend a lot of time together, but we really got on and he's he's just a genuine good guy, so I mean, like the boys really respected him and he's he's brilliant at his work as well. And um I still keep in touch with him now and then, so it's for a good cause. I mean he's doing well. Yeah, it's a really good cause. We uh We went through four or five physios in a year at Sunderland. Why? Gaffer wasn't having them, just wouldn't listen. They were probably right, Gaffa's like, nah, they're playing, you're sacked. Then one time I didn't even know I had a bad back shock, and I was getting treat off him, and he treat us, and then we went to the Christmas party and I went, Neil, I'm not coming in tomorrow. Your back sorted. Someone went, Lummy, he's just been peddled. This is his last drink with her. I went oh no, but all right. And Mark Green, ex-working in Reds player, yeah, every life Cumbria. I've put out a suicide prevention video, and it's filmed at Brunton Park, and it's filmed at the rugby ground out west. It's it's a class video. I'll put it up again. Uh I posted it just before the weekend, and I'll post it again. A very, very good video. Tracy, who runs Color United Women's in it as well. It's just about them conversations that you need to have, the signs you need to look out for. So excellent. We like promoting stuff like this. Yeah, of course, yeah. Um, as I've said, we've got some quality episodes coming out. A couple of we've just got to get our fingers out and learn how to do a bit more with the uh but Adam's gonna show us how to do it. Um, and we'll go on location, yeah. Looking forward to being autumn weather's now the sun, the sun's coming out, isn't it? Ah, yeah, it's called Dylan's kitchen, which we've not seen yet. Well, can you imagine it's uh cut the grass yesterday? Like, well, I didn't cut it anybody. But the grass is cut the grass or a neighbour. Shout out, Nigel, keep doing what you're doing, mate. Got stripes on the front of the loft.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:53

Saying that we get our grass cut like we get it done every couple of weeks. We someone comes and does it for us.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:57

No messes on me with the grass, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:59

I've done it once, and she was like, What are you doing?

SPEAKER_01 1:19:01

I've done it once and I and I should be dead. I went through the wire. Aye, she's like, all new looking, going, how are you still standing? I was like, ah, more lads and a kick me. We laugh about the grass. So see up now we'd been Niall McGuinn, who's played in Northern Ireland and Celtic, wherever, he was my neighbour next door. And he see before he played football, he used to walk in a car wash, so he loved cleaning his cars, he loved his cars, right? He was his single guy, yeah, just got a nice car like all the time. So he used to go out every weekend, they would clean it and stuff. And he used to he used to come over, he'd be like, Oh, what are you doing? I'm gonna clean the car. Do you want me to clean it? And I'd be like, I feel daft seen. Ah Jamie got gone. Because I'm sitting watching whatever I'm watching, and like he's out the front and clean the car, but anyway, he was like, I'll cut your grass. And I was like, I can't be bothering it. He's like, I'll do it. So I'm like, that forces me to go outside. I mean, like, I had the water. Hey, do you just want to watch people in the gym doing their thing? How with your phones? Oh my god. But like my missus laugh, so she's got a picture somewhere, and then um he's cutting the grass and see the wire. I'm kind of like five steps behind him, just holding the wire. Like a little penis. Just holding the holding the wire. He's cutting it. But I'm like, I can't just go sit and play Fortnite. I mean, and he's out cutting my guts. Hey, car wash, put a car wash up to 50 quid. I'm still getting the car wash. You like a little tidy of your van. I do. I'm he blasts the house, you know. Like, there's about three times out of rangham the last two months. He guns, right? I'm just gonna get in, I'm gonna blast the house, do the housework, it's my housework day. But that thing, I can't abide meh, like anything after like C D a line to clinical. I've just leave the hair cut. I mean I've just flipped I mean the house is clinical. Every week you're you're when you had Sophia, I must have sent your head on. Oh yeah, I hate it. I mean, now she's seven, I'm at her, I'm on her, and she's like if she's yeah, I'm on her daughter, but like putting things away.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:46

Or if she's if she has something, she'll like a dish will be down there, but like the sink's there, you won't put it in. Do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 1:20:53

I've got a new car and she's had her feet up yesterday. I was got I meant my couch as well, my couches and like yogurts and all that. And she's sick, she's sick, do you know what I mean? Like my oldest, and she's like, Oh daddy, I've spelled a yoga. And I'm like, how? All right, like I'm taking Zora to the car, I'll give him on Saturday, she better behave like I'll get the iPad ready, fired up. Right, thank you again to Capital Industrial Batteries based in Glasgow, who manufacture and supply batteries, chargers, and accessories for any industrial project. They can supply you big business batteries for golf buggies, e-bikes, e-bike replacements, camp the vans, and engine starting, deliverable UK-wide and quote three in the middle to receive offers and free deliveries. As I've said, with the sponsors we've already had, I think there'll be a chance of a big link up here. So follow them on Insta, Facebook, and I'll post them as well. So Capital Batteries, Automotive, and Engine Starting Batteries 2, they do it all. So there's got to be a link up there. Of course, yeah. Um like that. Well done, Dylan. Family, friends, thank you very much. Thank you for the and as I've said, any getting involved. I was at the so Jeff Hurst, I tapped a couple of people for sponsorship because without the sponsorship, it doesn't happen, does it? So thank you very much for that. It means a lot. So we're all off to put a big bet on Man City to win the title, though. Man City. Man City Celtic. Man City Hearts for me. Right? I'm going to Celtic. So you've changed him. I was hearts. I was hearts. Nah, you were when they were tempted. But do you know what I thought? I just go with whoever's. Hey, Hart have just won the title. Here you go. Well, I'll go hearts. Yeah, well done. You know when I put now? You know when I put always trusted there. I put that vote up last week. Who's going through? Buying Munich or Real Madrid? People are voting by and in the 88th minute. I'm like, it's before duck eggs. You need to get in before. Anyway, on that note, thank you very much.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:48

One more thing. Yes. If anyone's at a loose end tomorrow, can we cup final? Penless ground, half past seven, Carlisle City versus Kirk Oswald. Um be nice to get through. Are you involved?

SPEAKER_01 1:22:58

I think I might have nicked a place on the bench of after. What's the weather like? Tomorrow's going to be nice, mate. Is it? Is it Astro Turf tomorrow? Yeah, 4G, yeah. Um, obviously I won't be getting on Zara's. Unless it's uh That's Zara's. Actually, I could palm Zara off tomorrow, I think. I think it's fine. I'm Ganny. Last time I was at Penrith, though I got left out, remember? Oh, you've got my memories, haven't you? Right. All the best. All the best, thank you. Yes, guys.