The 25 Year Grudge | Earrings & Pints of P*ss

After a recent run of guest episodes the lads are back together as a three and straight back to what they do best.

Expect stories around which England player slept in the overhead luggage compartment on the flight after a Euro 96 game, World Cup preview and find out which ex Newcastle United player Skip still can't find anything positive to say about and his reasons which include an earring and a pint of P*ss.

Throw in a few reader's stories about anonymous ex players antics and 'the great curry debate' and you've got an episode full of laughs and banter. 

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Right, lads, good to be back. It's been a while, hasn't it? Been a while. We've had big hitters in the door, haven't we? Mm-hmm. We have. Dolly. Last one we've done with Graham, hadn't he? And then we've had Dolly and then we've had Holty.

SPEAKER_02 0:12

Yeah. How was it? Good? Yeah, but all been all went down very well, haven't they? Really well. Um yeah, Holty was the last one. Holty bowled in, shy. He can talk, can't he? I can talk, aye. He can't have. We could have kept it another three hours, couldn't we? He could have talked.

SPEAKER_01 0:26

But he had to go somewhere else.

SPEAKER_02 0:28

To go golfing. But I is just a lot of people have been on about his his career path. Classically. It's just madness how he went from what he was to playing in the but what shocked me was he didn't play in the Premier League until he was 30. And I thought he was younger. Yeah, he was 30, and obviously the two two seasons he had in the Premier League with Norwich were. Oh he likes to remind you. Well phenomenal weren't it? He likes to remind you of the club.

SPEAKER_01 0:47

I didn't mention it much like what we've got a question about it in what's the crack, so we won't go completely into it. But what uh the Hibs Munda Club he was on about.

SPEAKER_00 0:55

So we thought I knew as soon as I mentioned it to you, I said ask him about it. I thought you thought we were going to be out in the piston, like proper old school Monday. But it was it was the total opposite. And that was just obviously Hotway coming in, big names, do you know, playing the Premier stuff, and we were all young lads at Hibbs at the time. Um and he stayed up in an apartment to sell, I think his kids and that were still down the road. So most days, but in a Monday especially, we used to go after training straight to Caffeineiro, sit, coffee, cake, sit and have a chat, and then go back, chill for a bit, and then Nando's Monday night, class, and then up to the cinema, like ice blasts and all that. Like just he was like a big kid, do you know what I mean? Like he was just I think he liked being really younger boys, do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 1:34

Because he said, didn't he? And I remember at the time when he signed Lennon promised him come up Thursday, and it soon changed, and he was up on Mondays and that, wasn't he? So you're stuck in that hotel all week, and you've got to like try and kill so probably having that little group like helped him. Yeah, yeah, his regret, everyone's gone on about, isn't it? Lola Carlisle supporters. Yeah, we had four chances, four times to sign him.

SPEAKER_02 1:57

Yeah, it's pissed a few people off, hasn't it? Knowing that he could have signed, I didn't know it was four times, but yeah. Um, and as he said, that he's one big regret in football, not everything he's he's achieved was not to play for Carlisle United, didn't it? It's a shame because I mean, what a player not to sign and home home home grown and stuff.

SPEAKER_01 2:12

I was going through the years, so the years would it have been new? Yeah, a couple of them, but we were doing well at that time, but still you still take him. Oh, of course you do, yeah. Did you play against him a lot or not? I Mr. Penfer, not in Forrest, nil-nil. And as you said, he had a uh stag deal that night in Nottingham with Carlisle lads.

SPEAKER_00 2:28

And he calls winner to go out, he calls dive and winning fouls. That's what he's called. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The other tell you about the time he bullied me when I played we played uh testimonial against Norwich. I played right back. I don't know why I was at right back, but he was a big bully. And I used to say this to him all the time, I was like, remember you bullied me down the road. It's basically the right back would get the ball, he would just peel onto me, put his arm across me, and just like put his hand up, and the right back would just float the ball up, and he'd just take it in the chest and just hold me there as like. I'm just like kind of touching him and like now, one of them, like let him pass it, let him pass it, and he just hold me off. And aye, he was a big bully, but he was he was brilliant in it, wasn't he?

SPEAKER_01 3:07

And the uh the chairman stories went down very well, really good. I mean yeah, even if I'm not an Aries and that chairman's got that money waiting for me, and he says I'm an I'm an air, I've changed the verse, everything. Anything said yes, sir. And like he's paying the agent fees, or he's paying him what he owed. He paid him what he was owed off for us, was that right? As I said though, the kids they only left down there blue and yellow. Nothing. Nicky Summerby once, right, was playing for Sunderland and Bradford, the yeah they were throwing the door, Benito Carbone. Yeah, there was another Italian that got in Europe or they're in a Toto and they had a bit of a go, and they offered Nicky Summerby like double his wage compared to uh Sunderland. And he had a couple of sniffs and he went down to Bradford and came back and he knocked it back, and the club were fuming because they kind of wanted him out. We were saying, What was the matter? Like, what was the problem? He went, kid's not the best. Double your money by the way. About two years later, he's kind of nosedived and he signed for them when they were in admin. So a couple of years earlier, I could have had double. Didn't go for the kid. Uh speaking of chairman, I was thinking uh a little couple of stories about chairman in the past, and everyone talks about college, don't they? When I used to go to college when we were YTS and Kevin Frampton, another one from Keswick, we got presented our certificates at the Stadium of Light by the chairman. So you call them Mr. Chairman. You every chairman we call Mr. Chairman? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:32

It's just respect, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 4:33

Well done, Kevin. Cheers, Bob. Bob Murray. Unbelievable. And then I told you one of them that the worst chairman situation I had was when we played on a Tuesday night, got beat, and uh John Dennis at Barnes he came and started bollocking with. And I was just kind of daydreaming, like looking through him, and then he just went, Who are you eyeballing? And I'm like, Oh, I'm not even eyeballing in my mood, please.

SPEAKER_00 4:58

Is this the chairman coming in and having a chairman came in at a right go?

SPEAKER_01 5:01

Oh really? We beat Cordiff on the on the Saturday, 3-2, Kavanaugh, Peter Thorne when they were going for it. That was the season I played against you for Portville. How good were they? And then they got beat in the playoffs, didn't they? Oh no, did they win the playoffs? They went up, I think.

SPEAKER_02 5:15

Kavanaugh, yeah, Byrne Shaw, Peter Thorne. There's a few more. Um I played against them on a Tuesday. Oh my god, it was awful.

SPEAKER_01 5:21

They were good, they were very good, very good at their old ground as well, wasn't it? Ninian Park or something like that. But yeah, so we've got a bit to come. As I said, we've had a couple of weeks off, so we've got a hell of a lot to go through. So don't know what episode it is, but fair enough, off we go. Right, Tony Hoppadoo and game was good, wasn't it? We spoke about it. £24,000 raise for motor neurons disease in various other charities. Yeah, do you know what the the Saturday night was really good, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_02 6:13

Just you see people you don't see for for a long time. I think we've sort of roped a big hitter in for further down the line of me. We'll not not name him. Shall we name him? Go for it.

SPEAKER_01 6:22

Approached by Rory Delap. Approached, approached. We didn't tap him, he tapped us.

SPEAKER_02 6:27

We were shocked to be fair, but he said he'd uh he'd love to be he'd come on, so it's yeah, we were all over it, weren't we? Um but listen, he's just one of the last. We just promise him though, you bet he's done a dream enough you'd drink.

SPEAKER_01 6:37

I think because them three Peronis were there at the start, and that's the quickest I've seen Skip move. I went there free, gun on right on one in each hand.

SPEAKER_02 6:46

Alright, easy. But I no, it was good, it was you see people you haven't seen for a long time, and obviously it was for Tony and it was his fiftieth, and yeah, it was brilliant, and then got up on the Sunday, and the first thought was I've got to play football. Oh no, mate.

SPEAKER_00 6:59

Did you play in the end? Head was put on the head. Uh cough. Uh did you know there was a did you know there was a power cut?

SPEAKER_02 7:05

Did you know there was a power cut?

SPEAKER_01 7:06

We got told the next day there was a half. We got put right at the back, you know, right at the back, and I went, What's going on? Yeah, and they went, Use no way. So we were out the way. Uh so Billy was at the front, and then apparently at the right at the front, when people have the meal, power cut. Oh really? Yeah, we didn't, we were all right at the back.

SPEAKER_02 7:21

We were just busy talking and having a laugh and that, but uh it was good, like Rummy said, You've got to get the dicky bone, the suit, and that it's not for me that the once in the blue moon, isn't it? But I don't like wearing that gear.

SPEAKER_00 7:31

I feel like people just look awkward and snack, don't they?

SPEAKER_02 7:33

Sometimes like especially when they're tight, they're moving tight. Your shoes were killing me and Al.

SPEAKER_01 7:42

I put your shoes on, I put your shoes in. We put his shoes on and we went into the bar. And I said to Graham Anthony, who's on, I went, I've got I've got Skip's bloody uh shoes on. He went, bloody hell, then. You'll be slow going to the bar and you'll pull a car, and later on, the calf went. There was naked.

SPEAKER_02 8:00

But I the next day was what was your pre-match? Um last night's people's leftover dominoes. It was repeating myself. It is, it is, and I felt it, but yeah, I only played 20-25 minutes. And as soon as I seen somebody's hand go up by the dugout, I was volunteering to come off and got us to go back on. And the calves weren't tight, but I said they were ended up about 15 or 15.

SPEAKER_01 8:20

Before the game, I was assistant manager. I was like, come on, lads, getting ready. 3-0 down. I stepped right back. It's a lonely old place in that dugout. Do you know what though?

SPEAKER_02 8:28

We're all getting changed, and he's like he's not playing, so he knows what to say about 10 minutes from the start. He went, Come on, lads, do it right, will you? Like, you know, as if I put a bit of pressure on us and I'm fucking.

SPEAKER_01 8:37

No, so there's a lot here coming to see you like you know, I don't toss it off. Get involved, and you can see a couple of nerves were going, and I was like, Yeah, I'm gonna start winding this up for a little bit now. And then the young kids came on and we got back in it. Suddenly I was assistant manager again. I finished about five or still game or you doing the fact. I said I changed changed the game then. But uh people like Stu Whitehead and the Traveling Nova. Simon Grand, Danny. Simon Grand, Danny Libsey, Luke Joyce driving up two and a half hours. Mark Ellis got the train from crew, was it? I didn't I didn't know him, and none of our group knew him, and he stayed with us uh right up until about eight o'clock when he got the train back.

SPEAKER_02 9:16

Yeah, big effort made by certain people from a long way. It just listen, it's we we we've said it loads of times, it's just what people think of Tony, like the crowd on the at the game was was bit, but you know what? The bit I liked was at the end when when everybody was on the pitch and it was a massive like round of applause for his family. They're all in a group, weren't they? I was struggling, I was tearing up a bit, yeah. No one look at us, just such a good family, but yeah, and the money of the race.

SPEAKER_01 9:39

Got a hat break, youngest.

SPEAKER_02 9:40

Aye, great header, great header, great header. Aye, alas come on, was his no Arnie's daughter, um Scarlet. She missed an open goal.

SPEAKER_01 9:48

Yeah, a girl come on, crossed it, totally something, bang, and the crowd were just and it just made the day. Class, class.

SPEAKER_02 9:55

But the whole weekend was fantastic, it was brilliant.

SPEAKER_01 9:57

And then uh Billy Barr was going, I'm getting I'm going off from Penrith. We got to Penrith train station, he went, Cracks can he good. I'll come to Carl and then I'll go back. So he came up for a couple more hours. It was very, very good. And by the way, Lee Hooligan are mate, done very well getting your team together.

SPEAKER_02 10:15

He did massive credit to him, yeah, because uh, I mean they had big numbers, didn't they?

SPEAKER_01 10:18

I had about 38 players, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:20

Um and he was to and bless him, like he was worrying a bit, he'd miss people up. I'm like, you can't to get that many is unbelievable. Yeah, it's a good ton, though. And we were panicking about half two because we had about 12.

SPEAKER_01 10:30

On Lee Hooligan, his wife Mel made a great point to me over the weekend. Come on then. Cans of Coke have to be room temperature. Wow. And food. So when you're pulling food out of the fridge, which is very right here, give it a few minutes because you're just tasting cold food, aren't you? So we're having a right discussion about that. What kind of food are we eating straight out of the fruit? A strawberry on the floor. Straight out the fridge. Yeah, yeah, like a strawberry, straight out of the fridge.

SPEAKER_00 10:57

No, it needs to be like nice and chill. No?

SPEAKER_01 10:59

Yeah, but if straight out, wait a couple of minutes. You said the other day, give them all for your chocolate. Right? A dairy milk in the fridge is acceptable, but anything with a nugget or caramel in it, no fridge. I couldn't agree more, Mel. Nah. A top wait there. Right. So a topic. You said a twix should go in the fridge. A twix can go in the fridge, yeah. Because I bite the sides off and then I get the caramel. By the time I've done that, I'm AD5.

SPEAKER_00 11:28

What about a caramel nibble? What's that? Have you never had a caramel nibble? It's basically like buttons. Like Cadbury's buttons. Oh, can be caramel. Nebbles are cool.

SPEAKER_01 11:41

No, because you've got to let the caramel, you don't want it hard. Get them in the fridge. Hey, I'll tell you what, the discontinued topics.

SPEAKER_00 11:49

Good.

SPEAKER_01 11:49

Gaffo said he'd never have a topic on the day.

SPEAKER_00 11:54

I won't go and eat it.

SPEAKER_01 11:55

Yes, so very thank you very much, Mel, for that. Happy anniversary, Skip and Dom. Yeah. How long?

SPEAKER_02 12:01

Eleven years on Saturday. And where did you take her?

SPEAKER_01 12:03

Erm The Viceroy for an Indian. Right. Anyone who knows Skip by the time of this podcast should know exactly what I know, right? I know Dylan likes his beige food and everything in a fridge. But I even called Skip's Indian order, right? You did to be fair. I went, it'll either be a coma or a chicken tikkamasala, peel or plain rice, and a either a plain naan, or maybe you'll push the boat and get garlic in it. Yeah. Bob on, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:36

Yeah. And uh it wasn't half nice.

SPEAKER_00 12:39

That's not even a curry though. Test yourself. It's just cream. What do you have? Like something with a bit of spice. I don't even know a little buner or a. You sweat. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 12:49

Buna's not bad. Jal Fraser.

SPEAKER_00 12:52

I like a South Ending um chili chicken or something like that. Like a curry. A lot of spice. Well, it was amazing anyway. Next day it was bad.

SPEAKER_02 13:00

Oh, I'm gutting.

unknown 13:02

But how?

SPEAKER_01 13:03

There's new spice. I know you said this, but there was some of it that they put in it. Well, I was trying to help you out there. It might be the garlic. My dad's a lunatic. I've told you, haven't that? Gets an Indian, so you wait all week for an Indian. He'll just randomly pick something because he's not had it. Oh no. Nah.

SPEAKER_02 13:20

It's dangerous, that property if you're hungry as well. I'll have my old day. Here's one thing. If you get an Indian, you sit in. If you get a Chinese, you take it home. Ah, don't take an Indian home and you don't sit in with a Chinese. You take a Chinese home and you sit in with an Indian.

SPEAKER_00 13:34

No? I've got the young ones in house, so it's tough to like we usually like a Saturday night or something, get a take like a takeaway or something. So to go on a Saturday night is tough. So we'd usually just get a takeaway and go home. And put them to bed, enjoy it. Because now you once throwing chips not about you. I'm like, how you sit and enjoy your dinner? You can't go. No.

SPEAKER_01 13:55

Yeah, I've watched my dad, right? I have an Indian. So he'll just randomly go right up profusely, and I'm like, You're not enjoying that. It's not like lucky, that is not enjoyable.

SPEAKER_00 14:07

I've got a good one for you, right? I've had this argument with my missus and her family and all my my cu my cousins and stuff. So basically, see growing up. So see if I was to phone you up, right, and say, Let's go out for a curry. Where are you thinking? Where are we going for a curry? Indian. So see me growing up, see if we were saying like we'll get a curry tonight, that was always a Chinese. Always. He was on my head, right? Yeah. Now I'm starting to think that I'm probably the problem. The chances someone's. But honestly, I've argued like I've argued to blue in the face about like if I'm saying a curry as a Chinese and an Indian's an Indian. Do they say Indian? No, they would say a curry, like so they would say, Oh make a curry, or we'll get a curry tonight, it's an Indian. But they would say we'll get a Chinese. So I'm not.

SPEAKER_02 14:51

Everybody but you says it's an Indian.

SPEAKER_00 14:53

Well, from where I'm from. I put it, I think I put it on Instagram or something, like a poll. We need to do it. If you're going for a curry, I'd do it. What are you expecting? Is it a Chinese or is it an Indian? We don't need a poll on this.

SPEAKER_01 15:04

His Chinese will be salt and pepper chicken, chips, beer spring rolls, curry sauce, curry sauce and fried rice and prawn crackers. Exactly that. Exactly. Oh beef and black bean sauce or something?

unknown 15:17

No, not for me.

SPEAKER_01 15:18

Cheswan summit. I don't know. What about the dog? Chow mean. Chow me in. Nah. Treat yourself. Stick as what you know. Anyway. I'm starving. Right. Thank you to Robin Haley from RHG Properties. RHD Properties are a local property management company covering Cumbria. They help landlords run their properties as serviced accommodation to bring them the best returns while also minimising the new rental rights laws, which are a minefield, I'm telling you. Rob also runs a Carlisle City junior team and is goalkeeper for Carlisle City over 35s, often picking the ball up the net when playing skip. Rob Gale, any time? Oh, is he what lately or well? I don't think he played in the 6-0. Played last season.

SPEAKER_02 16:07

Last season.

SPEAKER_01 16:08

So they are sponsoring RHG properties. Thank you very much. So it's great for them to sponsor, and we'll push yours all the way as well. We'll promote. So well done, and we'll give you a little shout out to the words the end as well. So thank you so much for that. Thank you, yeah. I've um speaking of Barnsley, my chairman the other day, I had a mate on the other day, and it took me back. So when I moved to Barnsley, I had a mate who was at uni there, and I had a mate in the fire brigade there. And I went, In you're comlads, just live with me. So that's why I wasn't that professional. But my mate was going through a bit of a hard time with his last, so he'd come down every weekend and he went, but he's kind of freelance, so he could be a brickie here. And I just said, Listen, I'll get you a job down, yeah. So I sorted him one job and then I sorted him his dream job. The mascot at Barnes he was retiring, Toby the tyke. What with the Toby the cover on our time? What did he do it?

SPEAKER_00 17:07

Got him at all. I was just about to do it. His last we were going to deal a bank.

SPEAKER_01 17:12

His last found out. Oh, he did Bruce Dyus to score on the whole career and score. Bruce, Bruce, Bruce. I used to look up when we'd score and see him. Even that. Call it that. Next he's like, right, I'll be Toby the Tyke. Zex last got wind. I want you back. Let's give it another one. Killed as I could have been Toby the Tyke. So I'm Bangles, Mark Bainbridge. Chit yourself. So did we talk about Rob Elliott much? Erl, you know, it's new manager.

SPEAKER_02 17:41

No, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 17:41

Had it been announced? Was it just announced? I can't remember. We got absolutely sozzled at that, do, so I can't remember what ermine. Well, ex-teammate of yours. Yes. Acreton, we've covered that. Goalkeeper um managers. Not many about, is there? Or is there?

SPEAKER_02 18:01

Do you know what? I heard this on another podcast. Oh, I'll tell you we've done it.

SPEAKER_01 18:08

The social didn't it? Yeah, they did, yeah. Yeah. There was quite a few when you there is quite a few. I can't name any.

SPEAKER_00 18:14

Can you? No, I can't think of any.

SPEAKER_01 18:16

I can only name it now because of that, but yeah, they covered it. We don't want to get wrong for covering other people's stuff. Not the social. We've had crap again. Stop asking us to do stuff with you. So yeah, the social covered that. But no transfers yet. Now, speaking as a player, you're on your holiday still, aren't you? Yeah, you are.

SPEAKER_02 18:39

I mean, what's he said he wants about a couple of runs?

SPEAKER_01 18:44

Yeah, a couple of runs. I like that. I thought I thought maybe him going in would have said Did you expect some more now? I'll get you I'll get you the I'll get you the promo this team promoted. Because one, league's shite. It is the two best teams. It was crap last year. The two best teams have gone. Harrigate aren't going to pump money in, they're going to bring their uses through. Yeah. Barrow are going to have a little go, but you know what it's like? Well, Barrow, people don't want to travel all the way to the home ground and then back out. We've set up, and I think you know, we Wheeling and Wern have got to be absolutely over the moon, haven't they? How good's it when a manager comes in? Like Holty last week, Lambert had been trying to sign him, trying to sign him, and then he went his original.

SPEAKER_00 19:26

I think he's been clever though, isn't he? I think he probably won't want to come in and make too many big decisions and rip it all up and start again. Do you know he probably knows on paper there's enough there? Do you know what I mean? And we can add a couple areas and strengthen and put his stamp on it as well.

SPEAKER_01 19:42

I actually didn't think he'd go for five. I thought it'd be two. Not many. So you got Armstrong and Kelly, you get another striker like in behind somebody going behind.

SPEAKER_00 19:51

I think he's maybe looked and thought, you know what, there's not really any. There'll be a few centre halves, I would imagine, eh?

SPEAKER_02 19:56

Yeah, that's got a that's a weak position, isn't it? Maybe midfield. Yeah. But he might have them sort of lined up already. Well, he think he might raid Raid Gateshead.

SPEAKER_01 20:06

Well, the keeper's the one they rave about, and I think he centre halves have been around and done it, so maybe not. There's a ladder crawley who he took a couple of times that may be up for grabs. Right. Um, but he's got a network, hasn't he? He's got a a different manager brings in different connections.

SPEAKER_02 20:23

What's your priority though when you get the job? Is it your backroom stuff first to get that in order? Do you need to get someone in, huh? Yeah. Do you need to sort of like get to know you brought an analyst kind of guy in? Yeah, seeing that, yeah. Do you need to get to know your surroundings or do you just go straight to the squad and look at that? I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 20:37

Yeah, I think he's gonna lean on Gav a bit. Gav's in a sense.

SPEAKER_02 20:40

By the way, I'm delighted for Gav. Yeah. Because it's been a I think it's been a rough few weeks for him. Yeah. Um but he's he's staying. Well the players love him, yeah. Yeah, the players love him, and he's he's so well thought of, and like you say, he's just just a brilliant lad.

SPEAKER_00 20:53

So yeah, delighted for him. He seems like the kind of guy who's like gonna lead from the front as well, like when I listen to him. Like he's all in. Do you know what I mean? Like everyone can talk well these days, but it's a bit different. Mark Goose was a wee bit more like I'll kind of from the back seat, do you know what I mean? And let Mark kind of staff and run training and run. He seems like he's gonna be he's gonna be top of your table. Yeah, do you know what I mean? And he's gonna like make decisions and drive things himself, it looks like anyway. Did you see uh some of the comments they said uh on his welcome videos?

SPEAKER_01 21:24

Said the media department had done them videos so well, I didn't know if it was a new manager or a new advert for Jack O'ho He looked well though, he did look well, he did talk well. I know everyone talks well now, front foot foot football and all that, but I liked it because we didn't turn away when they said what's your expectation. He went, any expectation of Carl United's promotion. He was adamant, wasn't he? And anything less is a failure. Put it down, go down the goal, put it down your place.

SPEAKER_00 21:50

I seen a thing about England and Chuco as well, basically saying, like, we need to win. Do you know what I mean? Not none of this, like oh, we've got a good environment, we've got good lads and the It's like we hate it win competitions. And they put it out there on the first day. Do you know what I mean? So it's in our head that's like we're we're here to win. And that's as we said, Kaleo now we'll get a better chance at winning this league. I've just uh so why not put it to them and say, Well, there's a pressure, go do it.

SPEAKER_01 22:15

Yeah, because you've done it last year, some of you have had good seasons, some of you haven't. Get out of this league. Um I just watched uh Netflix USA '94, the Brazil story. Pressure was on them, by the way. Don't come back to the country if you don't win it.

SPEAKER_02 22:36

The ones who played in Europe were like that. Kieran Dyer, ex-teammate to South End. Well, not so much a teammate, he was just a big time first team, wasn't he? Oh, big time bastard. I was a prick. Shit list. I didn't like him at all. Um, but none of us did. The young lads, none of us did. Um so hopefully he has a nightmare at sound. If I'm honest, he's turned over a leaf now, apparently. It was he was he was just one of them. He was a big he was a massive money signer for Mitsuch, remember? And he came and he was just having himself. Was he? Yeah, he had the best car, the best watching. But you used to hammer us. Um I mean, you know the story about it.

SPEAKER_01 23:14

I've never understood that.

SPEAKER_02 23:15

You know the story about the Christmas night out, don't you? Where he he pissed in a pint glass and offered loads of money to the youth team to some one of them to drink it. And to prefer to Bradley Or he stepped in and he was gonna he was gonna flatten him.

SPEAKER_01 23:25

Bradley Ore's gonna come on, isn't he? Yeah, yeah, he's gonna be a lot of things. You ever heard of Bradley Or? No, QPR, Bristol, City, he was a centre mid at Newcastle, and then he went right back with a class player.

SPEAKER_02 23:34

Yeah, and he stepped and he stepped in. He's just done that boxing, hasn't he? Um but he fought some big unit um and it was a right draw. No, um I can't mind, but but yeah, he stepped in.

SPEAKER_01 23:47

Um but he's he got into tire, didn't he?

SPEAKER_00 23:50

Yeah, it's pool that though, isn't it? Like it's because you know young lads are if you're offering them money, no. I think it was like do you know what I mean? It's almost taking liberties, like I think it was something like a grand fifteen hundred quid, and lads are on like fifty quid a week, and they're like you'd rather them do it before telling them. Now, like you hear boys like having a laugh and they have a sip and they spit it out, but to like entice young boys to to do stuff like that's we uh we were in Marbella and we had olive oil to about there on the glass and little bits in, it was like 400 quid.

SPEAKER_01 24:22

Thomas Butler, remember Thomas Butler was there? He drank it, that's it, money was there, move on, but not pissed. But do you know what?

SPEAKER_02 24:29

He was the best player nearly every week. Was he though? He was playing for England, like and there's but there's no excuse for it for being acting the way you do, like but he was some player, but as a guy when he was in his early twenties, he was he wasn't a nice guy.

SPEAKER_01 24:43

I used to follow him around and see nightclub because he was saying Cheryl Cole at the time. Cheryl Tweedy at the time. Was that she was top?

SPEAKER_00 24:51

I used to have a t-shirt as well. Careful you! No, no short, wasn't it? It was the one there clip Remember Top Man? Top Man done like Rihanna in that it was the Rihanna one and uh oh what's her name? I can't remember now. Megan Fox? Megan Fox, I think it was, yeah. Do you have a sale? It was a t-shirt with them and them.

SPEAKER_01 25:13

Honestly, I've got the ones up on my Facebook like memories, like red chinos, uh white vans, and and then an all-sain cardy, the old cardie, it's very like I they were sweat-packed. Oh, the all-sain's sweat. And I'm talking sweat, say that God for dry claw.

SPEAKER_00 25:32

Like, bad gear. Yes, he just talked about pissing and glasses and that. I remember Charlie McGrew. I didn't see it, but he told me about it, man. It was hilarious. So basically, we were on a big team night out in Glasgow in tunnel. No, it wasn't tunnel, it was um sugar cube, and we had this big booth, and it's going off and stuff, right? And Charlie says he was stu he stood up and the toilets were ages away, and you need to go through like through all the crowd and all that, and people annoying him and stuff. He's like, I'm desperate for a piss. I thought, grabbed a glass, pissed in it, right, and put it down. Next minute the bouncers are over, grabbed them. You've pissed in a glass, and that he's like, I've no, like, I've no, I've not done it. Was it me now? Was it me? The bouncer says, Well, drink it then. Ah, take the head. The way Charlie tells stories as well, he's like, I'm looking about and it's going off. Do you know what I mean? Like music, the drink, and all that. He's like, I don't really fucking want to leave worries. If it's your art, took a big gulpit like that, took a big gulpit. The bouncer's just gonna let him go. That's you. He said, like five minutes later, I looked over, and there's about five bouncers in the corner, though, like they knew it was pissed, but they thought, fair enough, he's drank it even stage then.

SPEAKER_01 26:38

Johnny Huster we we got them. We used to go to Baja in the VIP, and every week he'd do something, and you'd just say head first, out the doors. Every week we'd go and he'd apologise, and then honestly, but uh we um so yeah, Kieran Dyer, how do you think he'll do as a manager then?

SPEAKER_02 27:00

Well, do you know what? He's he's been at Chesterfield, hasn't he? Um under my old manager, Paul Cook, yeah, who's a a brilliant manager, um I thought so he's been with him and remember Gary Roberts, the winger, yeah. He's the right player, wasn't he? So they've been his two assistants. So he's sort of done his time there, but it's his first time stepping in as as manager, so he's he's gone down the league, so he must want to have a right goal, right? Um they've given two years with an option of a third, haven't they? Have they? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:24

So listen then Dufoe's in that league now as well. Walking, yeah. Yeah, yeah. The um Bobby Robson, well, John Carver tells a good story. He says he knew football was changing, so John Carver, yeah, he was Bobby's assistant, and he said he knew the game was changing. They pulled out of St James's to go to an away game. And uh Kieran Dyes like shot up and went, Gava, Gava, we need to stop the bus. And like the ball shit themselves. Like someone's really up. Well, what's the matter, son? He went, I've left my earring. That sounds about right for him, by the way, because he used to have bling on all the games. Then he just went, and then Bobby Robson said to John, Look, look what you know. You can imagine Bobby Robson going, what is going on? Um we've got some uh you've been around your mum and dads, haven't you? I have, I have. So we've got skips, we've got a couple of things. We've got skips. First, we'll go on to the best thing ever. Following our discussion with the football management staff, I am writing to confirm that we are prepared to offer you employment as a contract player initially for a period of three years once you sign a scholarship contract and have attained the age of 17. So basically that's a three-year pro. When you turn 17. When you turn 17, please sign and recur and return and close the top this letter to confirm your acceptance. No freaking negotiation. How quick do you think I signed it? I'm just gonna look at the wages for people listening.

SPEAKER_00 28:50

What's this is a contract you get sent? Yeah. Um to the house. To the house, right?

SPEAKER_01 28:59

22nd, 1098 to 30 of the 6th, 2001. Basic salaries there, signing on fee, which will be paid in three equal annual instalments. That's why you must have four houses. Signing on fee is only payment and shall not constitute part of the terms when considering terms of re-engagement. This is the shiny bit. When selected as a substitute in a recognised competitive first team fixture, the player will be paid an additional sum of £300 each occasion, right? That's shocking. When the player makes an appearance in a recognised first team fixture, he will receive 500 quid. So I got mine, it was 300. I went back in the renegotiated and they went, yeah, you've got what? Two grand appearance I got after that.

SPEAKER_02 29:44

I mean, it looks like there was no negotiation on this. It could have been any number, there's nowhere near. How quick did you sign it and send back? Uh I signed it.

SPEAKER_01 29:55

Weekly allowance um expensive of 150. Alright. But this is the proper one. Oh, the college. Dear Mr. and Mrs. Boyd, this is from the Teachers Association at Newcastles. This is your college report. Please find and close a copy of Mark's recent college report. Although he has passed, I'm certain that with all around encouragement and self-belief, he'll improve on this grade. If this fails, we made it resort to a kick. I look forward to seeing you soon. Best wishes. And that followed the other one where your enthusiasm was zero. You know what I mean? You know what college was like on a Thursday.

SPEAKER_02 30:30

It was you weren't interested, were you?

SPEAKER_01 30:32

And there's his report for the camera. FFL. And then last but not least, we spoke about. So our dream about going back. I had it again last night. Did you? I dream a lot about going back to pre-season.

SPEAKER_02 30:45

After you've spoken about this, let's speak to him about what you've done this morning.

SPEAKER_01 30:48

Go on. So our dream about going back to pre-season, the first day back, and you've not done enough. And you know you've not done enough. Every year. So Skimp has got this as from Monday, the first of June, this is about 1999, running on a flatty grass area for a steady pace for 20 minutes, circuit, line your back, knees bind, feet, place your hands in the thighs, slide over. Just normal sit on slide down. Press ups, crunches, burpees, hyper extension, squat thrusts, knees to chests, chair dips, squats, alternative leg raises, and then build up as you go. So as Halty said, he knocked on you all the time and you were doing your run later, weren't you? Yeah, I've done it the next day. Is there anything worse than going in under a prepared pre-season?

SPEAKER_02 31:31

Just the butterflies. You just knew, didn't you? You're on that start line, you thought. Get on the line. Get on the line. I'm about to get found out here. Yeah. Because it was just a race. Yeah, me and the two keepers at the back every single year.

SPEAKER_00 31:42

I think it's mad that you actually send letters to the house. It was letters or house phone. That's what it was. Yeah. Just like just now, like everything's just obviously on the on the phone, innit?

SPEAKER_01 31:53

They just and they can track you as well, can't they?

SPEAKER_00 31:55

Aye. They send you away with like heart mourners and stuff, so you can't you can't bluff it. And then he done what he done this morning. So what'd you do this morning? Oh, if it's this like hit red zone running thing on Instagram. But I've done it for years, like this certain kind of hit kind of run, I would say, on a treadmill.

SPEAKER_02 32:13

Then you say if you can do it, you know you fit.

SPEAKER_00 32:15

Aye, yeah, it's always marking. So I took two feet two weeks off. It's your marker. Yeah. I took two weeks off, obviously going away and stuff, and I know that if I'm if I can get through that session on the treadmill, then I'm usually where I should be. Do you know what I mean? But it is tough. It's a tough. What level? Do you want me? We'll put it up. We'll put why don't we put a challenge out and see if I can't get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we've got some runners.

SPEAKER_02 32:34

Because we've all got some runners. But tell him the highest level and then you put it off. What was the highest level?

SPEAKER_00 32:38

So basically you start like five minutes, you do five minutes. So I think the incline's like 1.5.

SPEAKER_01 32:43

Yeah, I can do that.

SPEAKER_00 32:45

At what? So you run for five minutes. Right. At level let me quickly get it here. So I'm not so I'm not wrong. So you run between level 15 or 17. What?

SPEAKER_01 32:57

It fucking doesn't even go up to 15.

SPEAKER_02 32:58

I didn't think it did. There's smoke coming off it, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 33:01

And then you fall in. So every every kind of set you do two minutes rest. Are you sprinting then? Nah, it's not a sprint. That's not a sprint. The next one's a sprint. So then you do one minute on.

SPEAKER_02 33:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:12

At level 20.

SPEAKER_02 33:15

20.

SPEAKER_00 33:16

There's smoke coming off this. The belt. Or the we oldies are all kind of like. I was gonna say is everyone looking at you. Nah, nah, dude to be fair. I go to JDE and it's uh there's people that proper doing workouts. Do you mean I I I I used to do it in Ballantine sometimes where the crowds are wee bit tight shorts have been look at? A wee bit a wee bit holder. Um get a couple of funny looks, yeah, and then you do four minutes at 15. Get it up so you're gonna want to get it. Yeah, point up. But see, see the see the speed? You can drop it a little bit, do you know what I mean? Like you don't need to do 15, like if you can do 13 or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 33:49

But there's a lot of ITs and young pros, watch this. We'll get it up. Oh yeah, Joycey. You'll have a go, won't he? Joyce will have his goal. Because Joycey came to the day, he was fit again as usual. Had a bad knee, but still good, wasn't he? Yeah, very good. Uh Crew. When I was going to sign for Crew, um the bid 500 grand for us, got accepted. Um spoke to Dario Grary on the phone and he said, Yeah, just regards the summer. We come in every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. I went, thank you for your interest, Dario. See you later. We won't be going any further.

SPEAKER_00 34:21

Over the summer?

SPEAKER_01 34:22

Hey, so when you go in, you don't you're not doing a preseason, just tick over. So you're just taking over. But nah, not for me. I'm sure you can do that back home though. Like, and then Steve Parkin at Barnsley 2001, he put 12 dates up through your two-month off, and you had to do six of them, which isn't bad. That was alright. I tied in with a night out, so go and like do a Friday morning and then go out. And then go out. So I uh we've seen a lot of Insta lads on holiday enjoying themselves. York lads have had a right go still going, I think.

SPEAKER_02 34:52

Who's the kid up front?

SPEAKER_01 34:54

Pierce.

SPEAKER_02 34:55

The main no, the other one. Stones, is it? Yeah, yeah. Josh Stones. Yeah, he's got rid of all his social media accounts, hasn't he? He says he's locked in now, he's doing all this extra training, yeah. So he's had his fun. Still got another three weeks. Well, he's wanting to do well, isn't he? Good luck to him. Fair enough.

SPEAKER_01 35:09

I missed a great one. So I was in Albair with um when I was 20. And the Monaco Grand Prix just been. So we finished our trip. And my agent went, There's a spare seat. We're gonna get a helicopter to Monaco, we're gonna go to the F1 Grand Prix, we're gonna stay there two days. Mickey Gray was gone. He went, Do you wanna come? I'm just a homebird, didn't I? I want to get back to my mates and Killy and the plough and the pub and that and didn't go. He knocked it back, and the uh he ended up sitting with Rachel Hunt, Rod Stewart's wife. Yeah, yeah, big boy. Yeah, not Penny, no, the what the one before P. Diddy and someone else, and then Mickey Grey. Mickey Grey actually said he went, he went, no, who's rounds it? And he's just like kind of slinging. I would have been on what I've been on, I would have been on about 350 quid. No, that cost you. Oh, I think the agent would have sorted it, but just for like a couple of days. Right, it's finally here. Not that I'm that excited. World Cup, it's the kickoff time. Are you getting up for Scotland game?

SPEAKER_00 36:13

I'll sit that along, yeah. I'll sit that along.

SPEAKER_01 36:15

You'd be on the treadmill? Today's all uh 24. Sunday, two o'clock to the kickoff? Two in the morning, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:21

Well, Saturday night, two in the morning. Yeah. I think I it's the times, innit? It's a bit of a nightmare. Like I'd like to watch it with a Wii One and that, but it's gonna be too late.

SPEAKER_01 36:31

Was it the last one? There was two o'clock in the afternoon, four o'clock, six o'clock in the clash tremendous one. They'll have to win that though, don't they?

SPEAKER_00 36:37

Aye, I think it's got an 81 against Haiti. Yeah. Because they've got Morocco. If you win one game through, don't you? And then obviously Brazil, the last game. But England coming home.

SPEAKER_01 36:48

Is it coming off? Is it?

SPEAKER_00 36:49

Or is it usually that's all I think?

SPEAKER_01 36:52

I've still got my blue 1989 England top is going back on. It's quality. It is nice.

SPEAKER_00 36:59

Well, my wee one, we were talking about the World Cup and she's asking about it. Well, that's what I was gonna go into because the wee boy in the class were round on Sunday and we're talking about getting my strip and stuff. But his dad's Irish, so the mum's always English. Aviana goes here to school, so we're like, what top? And they're talking about Argentina, Aviana, and then she's like, the England one. I'm thinking about Scotland, and his dad's going, I'm not getting them an England top, no way. Probably proper Irish. I mean he's like, I'm not getting them an England top, so what can I? Yeah, we're we're a bit mixed, don't really know what to do.

SPEAKER_01 37:31

We need to know. New rules, five second countdown on throw-ins and goal kicks.

SPEAKER_02 37:39

So obviously, if it's a goal kick, it's it goes out and the keeper gets a ball given stress who it makes it. It's quick, that it's very quick.

SPEAKER_01 37:48

But then you kick it out, you've got another five seconds like in that heat as well. Aye, I I I don't I would say about eight, ten seconds, ten seconds would do. Not five. I think they'll relent on it, I think they'll relax on it.

SPEAKER_00 37:59

What about so what's the what is the rule then? So basically, say you take longer than five seconds for a throw-in. Do you get booked or what? So is it like reverse? Do you reverse it? I don't know. Oh my do you get the throwing? Yeah. Goal kicks, what you gotta do? Give them a ticket.

SPEAKER_01 38:12

Oh, it's a corner, isn't it? Oh, it's a corner, that's a that's a funny one, that like. What about the central half sketch though? Oh god, it's just a everyone's gonna be knackered.

SPEAKER_00 38:21

I'll tell you what, Arsenal, if I know obviously it's World Cup, but Arsenal would be they'd be knackered, wouldn't they? Oh, I don't know, yeah. No, they would they'd struggle, wouldn't they? Because they take about a minute and a half to take it solid and get everybody in positions and the wee and then the wee guy comes out the dugout. What about this one?

SPEAKER_01 38:37

What about this one? Red card for players covering their mouths during confrontations. Is it red? I reckon that might get a few other foreign teams because it always kicks off, you know, like the Colombian and the Mexicans and that. Karate kick and that like that is the karate kick. So I think that might get a few.

SPEAKER_02 38:55

I just think the heat will kill the European teams.

SPEAKER_00 38:59

It looks like that in the friendlies, doesn't it? They look like they're training and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_01 39:03

France haven't even gone out yet. I know, yeah, they've played a game in France, didn't it? Uh mandatory one-minute off-field treatment period. So if you go down, you've got to go off and you're not allowed to go over to your only the captain can go over to the manager. You can't go over and get all these team talks. I like that. Yeah, that's it. If someone goes down, players cannot go to the bench for team talk.

SPEAKER_02 39:24

It's a lot to take in for them all, isn't it, Michael?

SPEAKER_01 39:26

Yeah, punishments for teams walking off, the pitch in protest, that's a minefield, so God knows what's gonna happen there. What about the line-ups? Seen the lineups. I've not seen that one, but you told me facing each other or something.

SPEAKER_00 39:37

Well, I seen it on Twitter. So basically, like what I seen on Twitter anyway, it was basically they're not going to line up like they do along together. Yeah, they're gonna line up like in all the staff in that as well, like round the halfway circle, and then that's staff as well.

SPEAKER_01 39:51

Seen like the staff it'll be like end of season lap of honours, the missus isn't the bloody kids will be on.

SPEAKER_00 39:57

A bit like the hacker. Have you seen the New Zealand? Is it the French date where they actually like charge towards each other like New Zealand hacker and all that?

SPEAKER_01 40:06

They'll have like the lasses with the handbags like that, just before I start. So, what were you thinking of the England squad?

SPEAKER_02 40:13

Different. Um, I never ever thought Cole Palmer would get left out. Like, just I just thought he was he was a certainty, and then a month ago.

SPEAKER_00 40:23

I've always said Palmer. But you thought Forum would go for him. He doesn't go for him, but well, they ended up he took um Ivan Tony and stuff, like he. So do you know what I like about Tucko?

SPEAKER_01 40:34

I don't think he listens to any outside noise at all. Well, someone was hammering Dan Byrne before, and and in the no, I can't remember who it was, was saying going, listen, people he's is as he picks the team, it looked like Dan Byrne's left back, but the way they players, Dan Byrne will slot into this left back left centre half position, the left back will go into centre mid. That's how Tuchel plays. So it's like we're looking at positions, but the way they inverted too much by inverted and all that sort of stuff, so it ends up that Diamond moves inside.

SPEAKER_00 41:03

No, but I just think Harry Kane, like um Harry Maguire. I would have took him for its experience off the pitch, on the pitch. You need a goal, you you fling him on 10 minutes to go, he's an absolute. That was a shock, wasn't it? That was a shock to be fair. Um yeah, Tony getting the was it shock. Foden's not been good enough, is he, this year to play. It's Harry Kane. And he's even when he's played for England, he's not been at the heights, has he?

SPEAKER_02 41:24

Harry Kane, the best centre forward in the world at the minute. Was he better than Shearer?

SPEAKER_00 41:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:31

How do you know?

SPEAKER_00 41:32

He's better than Shearer. I just want to see your reaction. I love Sheera back in the days. See, honestly, in school, I used to do the Sheera celebration of it in the school. But I just love knowing that you're Zada, I think.

SPEAKER_02 41:44

I hear more about him, I see he's finishing the better player.

SPEAKER_00 41:48

Tell me what, does Kane go over to Bayern Munich and play in that team and score that many goals? Kane's better, isn't he? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:56

He is better, aren't I? Hard for a jury to say, but yeah, I think he is.

SPEAKER_01 42:00

Different. Different heroes. Different heroes, yeah. So I want to put to bed.

unknown 42:07

How can I?

SPEAKER_01 42:08

Moron. No, I'm not. Jordan Henderson. Now I'm gonna say this till I'm blue in the fucking face, right? We've all played. Right? We've all been in squads. We've watched World Cups, Euros. There's at least four or five players do not get any minutes, right? They're there, worst case scenario backup. So, there's always spaces where people don't play. Jordan Henderson isn't yes, he's a good player, very good player through the years. He's not there to go and be the foot, play cards and all that, put games on. He's there to have experience of showing the lads how you train every day, how you play every day. Lads, we need to be down for this time. But if he's called upon and can't be called upon, he's good enough to play. But there's a bigger role for him here, and people say, Why don't you put him on the coaching staff? It's completely different. The minute you put coach to him, players back off him, players don't tell him it. So there's no point. He is a link, but don't make him coach because that I'll stop talking to him. He can't be self getting anywhere in a bit. Graham Kavanaugh said the same. He got that role of Carlisle. He said he walked down and he heard us all stop talking, and he went, I'm being paranoid. In the dressing room, went, done it again, and we stopped talking. He went, I get it now. I need to move into that office and get Henderson in the squad. Yes, there's probably better players with better better seasons, but there's a bigger picture here.

SPEAKER_02 43:38

I totally agree with that, but I think his biggest role is I think because he'll do that much training. I think his standards in training will be right up there. He'll have to people have to match him. Um but like you say, he's he's not there just for the fun of it, is he?

SPEAKER_01 43:52

What about a liver mentor or someone like that who's never been away and it's three weeks in? I'm struggling. Come and see me, don't go see the manager.

SPEAKER_00 44:00

Jack, come and see me. I think get round you. He's he's been a captain, do you know what I mean? And as many captains as you can to get in that squad. He was a brilliant captain for Liverpool.

SPEAKER_01 44:10

Adam, would you have took him?

unknown 44:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 44:11

Would you have took him like that captain experience and as we said, driving standards? Everybody knows him and put or played beside him, talks about how good he is off the pitch as well. So it's a no-brainer, really. If you're going to take one or two that you want to get round the lads, and and as we said, if he plays, yeah, it'll do all his own.

SPEAKER_01 44:30

I'm not saying everyone who doesn't want to go a morons, but it's the ones who ring in to this and go, he's crap. And imagine calling him crap looking like and it's uh it's it's a teacher's pet, it's not especially not too much Maguire.

SPEAKER_00 44:45

That's how I thought he would have took Maguire, just through maybe not to the same extent as Henderson with driving standards and that which I'd imagine he is professional, but the experience on and off the pitch, training, now doing things properly, like maybe saying to the boys that are on the plane. Once we get quarters and semis and stuff like that, trust me, you'll get involved.

SPEAKER_01 45:04

And maybe saying keep off your social media, don't get too high, don't get too low, because he's been through the wins and losses. Ollie McBurney. If you tell your manager to bore off in a meeting in Scotland about two years ago, he's probably not gonna forget that. I'm here on the first that's the first if I feel to be honest. Well, I've been to they don't get on to that, but for the sake of You rang him, didn't he? Asked him why he wasn't in. So didn't they had a conversation? Probably said, because you've absolutely been hammering it for it.

SPEAKER_00 45:37

It doesn't fit the the mould, I think, of what he's trying to build. But and and I know like on the pitch, and again it's all part of the it's a collective, innit? Like the manager's got to look at everything, he's kind of oh you've done well in the championships, go on goals, brilliant, but when you come here, and that's everybody talks about Scotland and how you've done well the last few tournaments was the Tagalness, the kind of club atmosphere, like they're old mates, do you know what I mean? And you can see that through the social media stuff. So somebody coming in, and he probably does got one of the boys, but if he's wanting sneak off and do little now a little drinking night one night or do something and be stupid, do you know what I mean? And dragging people along, they're probably looking at it going, not for us. For the sake of no and and uh again, it's not your Paul Gascoigns or do you know what I mean? He's not that good to be. He's not that where you put up with yeah, I see one yeah, you make allowances. Did you see the one with Gary Nivell and Rio Ferdinand the other day? I think they'd done something about England and stuff, and he's talking about Gaza, some tournament, and basically he smashed up the plane. Gaza smashed up the plane. You're in '96. And the FA basically wanted to find out who it was, and they were going to send him home. And they all and then Tony Adams and stuff had a big meeting with all the players and basically said we're taking collective responsibility. That was a guy. And he said, if you're going to send one home, we all go home. Did you pay we'll we'll don donate or fee or something, we'll pay for it, but and we stopped by him. But that's that's Gaza. Do you mean the difference isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 47:04

Peter Reed was telling me that um on that flight home where they got absolutely mortal, you know, after the dentist chair. Is that the same? Yeah, Trippin said that Dennis Wise was in the handed too much for me. He couldn't get me a kip, so he went and locked himself in in the baggage as well, and looked it up, keep it double, yeah. Um Best Memory, the World Cup.

SPEAKER_02 47:25

Michael Owen versus Argentina. Correct.

SPEAKER_01 47:28

Yeah, I've got that. I've also got Plat V, Belgium.

SPEAKER_00 47:31

Yeah, 119th minute that was. Can I just pick up that Argentina game? I think one of you sent in the clips the other day. How bad is the defending? Oh fuck's sake. Seriously, like great result. Watch go back and watch them goals and just watch the defenders.

SPEAKER_02 47:49

Whose goal was a bit of Michael Own's what Archie goals?

SPEAKER_00 47:52

No, wait a minute. October, that was decent. Michael Owen gets the ball in their half, about 20 yards in their half, and you're thinking he's gonna take he's gonna take on the goalkeeper here, and then all of a sudden a back four comes from like the the edge of their own 18-yard bottle.

SPEAKER_02 48:06

Jim Goodwin trying to put a tackling a name on your water something parking on it, what was he doing?

SPEAKER_00 48:12

You never got over that, did he? But um not seriously though, like watch go watch the goals and look at the defending.

SPEAKER_01 48:19

Alright, I've got a new one now. Scotland getting beef, Costa Rica, 1990. Alright. Jim Lane. Wasn't even born then, though. When were you born?

SPEAKER_00 48:28

93.

SPEAKER_01 48:28

That was a good one. Getting in from school. What was that about nine? Is that Italian 90?

SPEAKER_02 48:34

Oh, it's all them that was.

SPEAKER_00 48:36

Who won that?

SPEAKER_02 48:37

We should have won that. Germany Germany? Germany on penalty. West Germany, West Germany. Germany. Who put anyone out?

SPEAKER_00 48:43

Penalties. Was it penalties? Was that Southgate? No.

SPEAKER_01 48:47

No, that was Europe '96. Gaza Tears, that was. And then lately Tripia via Croatia, free kick over the semi-final. What game did we watch in the Cali? We beat Germany in Euros. Something like that. Eh, and Germany 7 Brazil 1 in Brazil. And I'm that semi-final. Yeah. And they came out holding Neymar top up because he wasn't playing. Neymar's in his hospital there, they'll do it for me. What's going on, yeah? Actually, probably Neymar would be like that. Can't do that without me. Oh no.

SPEAKER_00 49:18

He's back in it. He's back in it. Is he in it? Call up, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:23

Call up. Right. Five and a half to three and a half, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 49:28

Come on, you are we won? Are we? Yeah. Who am I?

SPEAKER_01 49:31

Holy all over this. Yeah. Who am I? Born 10th of September 1989 and started his youth career at Portsmouth, making seven appearances in between loans to Knotts County in Swindon. A permanent move to Swindon came in January 2011, where he won League 2 and Play of the Year in 2012. In 2013, Bournemouth snapped him up where he helped the Cherries to two promotions which took them to the promised land of the Premier League. He scored his first ever goal in the Premier League against Sunderland in September 2015. Matt Ritchie? Correct. On first to do that.

SPEAKER_00 50:16

Who's just took a technical director a job at Bournemouth?

SPEAKER_01 50:21

Has he? Yes. Because someone's moved on from that and he retired yesterday. Is that how he got it?

SPEAKER_02 50:27

Swindon to Bournemouth. 400 grand because Canyo went.

SPEAKER_01 50:31

I think your mate played with him at Swindon, SciFerry. He did. And Cadis. Yes. Yeah. And uh Canyo. Nelly. Did he not? Did he not think it because of that? Did he not um resign maybe because of that or got involved? Anyway, 2016 he signed a five-year contract with Newcastle on a Bosman. Hallo. That's why he did, yeah. He came Rafa Binit as his third signing. Newcastle went on to win the championship at the first time of asking, and were promoted back to the Premier League with our man scoring 16 goals. In May 2024, it was announced that he would be leaving Newcastle to return. It was first club Portsmouth on a two-year deal, but left after one to join Redding, which would be his last club before retiring. Over 450 appearances, 16 Scotland caps. Who am I? Matt Richie. Good player. Six and a half to three and a half. I'm annoyed with myself, about to hit doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_00 51:26

Who am I?

SPEAKER_01 51:27

Born in nineteen eighty. He's trying to keep it Maida, though, in it.

SPEAKER_00 51:30

He's born in like 80s, isn't that when I wasn't even born?

SPEAKER_01 51:32

Who am I? Born in 1985, starting his youth career in the famous Manchester United Academy, managing only eight appearances in cup competitions. His whole crafting career was made up of loan moves to the likes of Royal Antwerp, Burnley and Aston Villa. In January 2008, he joined Sunland for 800,000 when Steam Bruce came calling for his services. He lost his place in the first team after falling out with Paolo de Cagno, shock, but reclaimed it under Gus Poyer and helped Sunland escape relegation and make the Football League Cup final, which they lost to Manchester City in 2014. After allowing his contract to expire, his next move was to Stoke City on a three-year deal under Marc Hughes. David Bardsley? No. Phil Bardsley. What David Barsley. Right. Did I play with David Bardsley? And he played right back for QPI. Phil Barsley. Raph you think. Anyway.

SPEAKER_00 52:33

He really knocked out Wayne Runnie.

SPEAKER_01 52:36

Injuries hampered his time at the Britannia Stadium and only made 51 appearances in three years before heading to Turf Moore in 2017 to join Burnley in the Premier League, where he played 57 times in five years before a two-game stint at Stockport wound up his career. 338 appearances, thought it'd be more than that. 13 Scotland Caps. So it was what? 6.5 to 3.5. Score 7-3. You're getting half a point because he got it wrong. It's 7-4.

SPEAKER_02 53:08

Yeah? He's clutching his straws here, isn't he?

SPEAKER_01 53:10

I'll tell you what, next week there's no Mr. Nights there, right?

SPEAKER_02 53:13

Born in 1962 as we know it.

SPEAKER_01 53:14

Quick Clan Watch. Southampton Football Club.

SPEAKER_02 53:17

Alright, fucking hell.

SPEAKER_01 53:19

If you're a player there, few minutes, yeah. What about that one?

SPEAKER_00 53:23

I'll be bonus and I won't the Oh the captain.

SPEAKER_01 53:26

Idiot. He was a right bell end in that game. Yeah. Bayless or something, he was really a right wanker in that game. They've kept the manager, haven't they?

unknown 53:34

Aye.

SPEAKER_00 53:36

Surely it's players, like you must be raging.

SPEAKER_01 53:38

Your wages go at least 25%, at least 25% up.

SPEAKER_02 53:43

Your bonus of playing at the Grem as well, isn't it though? Chance of playing at Wembley as well for some people who want to play. I mean, that's only a small part.

SPEAKER_00 53:57

And if they got promoted, they were due like a million pound bonus, and they were supposedly going to take it to court or something because it was like, Well, you're basically going to owe us a million pounds, but because you cheated and put out, we don't get a million pounds.

SPEAKER_01 54:11

And you know what? If Sto if if Hull hadn't a won, the Hull chairman said before the game on Talk Sport, he went, We're suing after this game if we don't go up. So the Rick Parry, the football league chairman, was like, get in when they score.

SPEAKER_00 54:25

They probably should have just put Hull up, shouldn't they? Just to be Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:28

Right, I don't know what we're calling it. 38 to 0. Is it the new sensation? I would say the new sensation. Dean Nicholson, my mate, texts me about this. He's manager of Heaton, Stanington in Newcastle. I think it's one below the conference north or in around there, the player Dunstan Fed and all that. And so he sent me this link, and I went, you know what? I'm 46, like I'm not getting involved. I'm involved. Now you're involved. So what happens is you start with a screen, and you have to pick 11 players, but you spin the wheel. And it's from Premier League players from 1993 to modern day. And it says a team like say Liverpool 2005-2006, all the players are there. You have to pick one, and then you pick a team, don't you? And the aim is you quickly press start the season, it takes about 20 seconds, all the results come up, and it's about winning 38 games and not losing any. Now we're hooked, don't we? So what I've been doing, I've been going for the top players and all of them, but then I've been looking into it, and Gaff has looked into it. There's little things like if you put the left back from Leicester and the right back who's playing with them, there's little chemistry that can go together. So I've been going for the best players. Got near, but not nearly.

SPEAKER_00 55:44

Second, I've got second. Yeah, I've as well.

SPEAKER_01 55:47

So what we're gonna do after this today, we're gonna shoot a little quick video of us playing it, and we're gonna put it up. But 38-0 football game, get on that and you can start and stuff like that. If anyone can get it, yeah, you can't just get the stuff.

SPEAKER_00 56:07

Tell me this. Do you watch the schools coming in or do you press skip? Or do you go in?

SPEAKER_01 56:12

No, I don't skip it.

SPEAKER_00 56:13

You watch it go out.

SPEAKER_01 56:16

Chris Waddle was absolutely on a fighter for me. Chris Waddle on the wing, into Patetti, the Crystal Palace centre forward. And then guess who's coming up on the right hand side? Jeff Kenner.

SPEAKER_00 56:29

Tim and have you found your tell on it?

SPEAKER_01 56:31

I have your mid put us in, shite.

SPEAKER_00 56:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 56:34

Centre mid, Sudden.

SPEAKER_00 56:35

What was your rating on it? Did it send your? I look terrible. I've got it, I'll put it up. You know what the tell is, didn't you? I'll have a look because I know what text is up. I'll tell you what it is.

SPEAKER_02 56:45

One of the only ones in 60.

SPEAKER_01 56:46

I'll tell you what it is now.

SPEAKER_00 56:48

This could be uh used it like when obviously I just came through and then you like football manager and stuff like that, and you click on it and you'll you're looking at your ratings and do you know what I mean? You're thinking pace is a bit. My pace was a real Where am I?

SPEAKER_01 57:06

Please put that in the chat GBT, and he's AI. Doesn't say me rating. Read the team out that you're in. Sean Wright Phillips, Steve Malbron, Nathan Redmond, Christian Bentecke, Chris Lumsden, Andy King, Steve Guppy, Louis Dunk, Edda Gao, Ian Butterworth, Norwich, and Alf Inger Harland. Where did they finish?

SPEAKER_00 57:23

17th. Tottenham. Tottenham.

SPEAKER_01 57:28

Nah. No. Doesn't say where. But his next one, he finished first. 80 points. Weakling. Janola, Shearer, Alicia Laetisier, Gerard, Modric, Cresswell, Tarkowski, Lescott, Coleman, Tim Crow. He must have got Everton a couple of times. Tottenham 99, Newcastle 2005. Good game.

SPEAKER_02 57:48

Good game.

SPEAKER_01 57:50

Right, get on it. 38-0. Right. We are on to what's the crack. This section is sponsored by Tony Everton and his family, Lisa, Jaden and Shea. Lovely family. Yes, they're in the back garden. Class. Lisa is the ultimate footy ma'am. Because she goes all over when Tony's away. And Jaden's been a part of the Cumbria Football Academy, Danny Granger's, for years and years since it started. And Shea playing for Crusaders, Huey and Minnie, and the JPL, where they have just won the league, and I think went unbeaten, didn't they? They did, yeah. So thank you very much. They're sponsoring for a few weeks going forward. Much appreciated. So, first question. And we've got to write one on this, which I've I've not put in for you, but we've had an email and it's decent, it might match something. Hi, lads. Just want to say what a great listen this podcast is, and really enjoying both the normal weekly pods as well as the special guest episodes. On the Grand Hull episode, which I must say was superb, he mentioned that he was close to giving up at one point. Did you ever feel like that at any point in your career? Keep up the good work, lads. Simon from Brampton.

SPEAKER_02 58:58

First day preseason, every season. Yeah, when I went to Gretna. My career obviously knows that I didn't. I was playing in League One. I went, I couldn't get a game in the Scottish Third Division.

SPEAKER_01 59:10

Were you happy? Yeah, but you know, when you signed for Gretna, was your mind already, oh, or were you like Yeah, I thought what like I still couldn't believe.

SPEAKER_02 59:17

Even though you're on good money. Yeah, I still couldn't believe what had happened and where I'd come from and where I'd got to. And it was obviously the carriona Carlisle getting relegated. Said I was getting kept, didn't get kept. Money was agreed, and then it was obviously a lot less. So I couldn't sign for that, and then obviously I ended up with Gretna in a pre-season friendly against Dalbeat Star. And the next time I'm a Gretna player, um, and I'm not wanted from the start. And about six months in, I thought I I was low, really low. Going out too much, not getting a game on a Saturday. I don't think it would have been as bad if I'd have gone the other way and not played in the football league, like League One. Obviously at Newcastle and stuff, and you think, how have I ended up here?

SPEAKER_01 1:00:00

What was the worst bit? Everyone asking what's happened for you. But you get forgetting within a week, don't you?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:04

And you know what? As bad as it sounds, a lot of people quite like it when you're struggling. Um and you find out who they are. Um but yeah, that was for me, and obviously I got away and sort of took off again and started enjoying my football again, but that was a terrible 18 button.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:25

Yeah, um never really like struggled at clubs, it was more when I was out of contract. I remember leaving Aberdeen, so I went in Sunderland to Aberdeen a couple of years, a year or two after COVID, and then I was out of contract thinking I'll get something. Do you know what I mean? And I think we touched on it before. I I'd knocked a few offers back thinking nah, I'll get better than that, I'll get better, and I want another kind of Premier League team in Scotland. And thought I'll take I'll take the chance and go into pre-season, and teams will start panicking a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:55

Because there's injury, a lot of people get the pre-season back, don't they? Have a couple of friendlies and go right, yeah. That's why Carl fans don't need to panic because that's when it starts.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:03

Yeah, then the manager sees, oh, maybe I do need an extra midfielder, or maybe I need something there or whatever. So I thought I'll take the chance. But when the weeks go by and the games are starting and everybody's fit, and as I touched on before, I'm down the local park, do you know what I mean? Like skipping over fucking dog shit and I on my myself, having to do my own times and all this kind of stuff. So there's times like that, and then obviously you need to pay bills and you've got your own family, so you're thinking if I could get a decent job, I think I need I'd need to go do it, do you know what I mean? And I've I've had a good career at that point, so I thought just whatever's whatever's next. But again, you stick by it by it, don't you? And you keep fit, and then sure enough the phone goes and you build yourself back up again. So I there has been times when you think, is it worth it now, do you know what I mean? Like am I gonna be able to do it?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:50

What was your next move after that?

SPEAKER_00 1:01:51

So I went I didn't sign I signed at Forest Green in November. So I went till November with I didn't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:59

Um you didn't have a game anywhere, didn't you?

SPEAKER_00 1:02:03

Nothing. I went to Livingston. No, I went in to Livingston and and um done a few weeks training there. David Martindale phoned me, said come in and train. So I went in there for a few weeks, um, kept myself taking over and then went to Forest Green in November. And then done well, got play of the year.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:22

How did Forest Green get you then? Who was that training?

SPEAKER_00 1:02:25

So guy it was a sporting director, um a little Scottish guy who worked at Dundee United who knew me obviously through Hibs and Celtic and stuff, Stevie Greeve, who's managing over in Sweden now, doing really well. Um so he he knew about me, do you know what I mean? And they were struggling a wee bit in League One. He's like, Well I know him, he's on a free, so get him in. So yeah, got play of the year, done well, and then got two years at Carlisle. Yeah, do you know what I mean? And so it kind of took that kind of period and then kicked on again. Do you know what I mean? And so yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:52

I think mine was decided to leave Sunderland, new contract there, Premier League, but not as I say, I was bench, not bench in the squad, a Premier League player, but not a Premier League. Fighting full. And then going on loan and championship and doing really well, and I went right, I'll make the decision. Went to Barnsley, and then my career started next thing you're like in the paper every week, you know, and your John Carver coming to watch us and going, There's a chance Newcastle or Sniffing, and I'm like, bloody hell. And then we got relegated and went into administration. So from being a Premier League player in the October into the championship November 1st here, I was a League One player by the June, and that summer I was like just deflated, didn't really want to do my pre-season. If I'd stayed in the championship, I would have honestly trained and trained and trained and went, I'll get back in the Prem. But the drop again, you're like and then there's rumours of like going into admin, not, and it was just like, shall I get out? But I loved it at Barnesley, so decided to stay, I think we'll go straight back up. It was just a year of crap, and then a couple of years of crap, and then I was on really good money, so they're trying to get me out, and then I said, Right, I'll go to Hartleypool, just train near at home. And I pissed it at Hartleypool, and I thought, you know what, they're in League One, they're up and coming. They've got a few, I'll sign there. Came to it, they couldn't afford us to go. Um, and that's when literally I was driving home, I said to my dad, I think that's me done. I said, I'll take me last year at Barnsley, I'm 25, I'm done with football. And it was like, as I say, two Premier League three years later, ready to do.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:29

What was his reaction to that?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:30

He was always just back to us, to be fair. And then he watched us for Hartley Cool, and he's like, You'll know yourself, uh he's like, You can't do any more like with these teams, and and and to be fair, back then is when the ITV digital money had collapsed, so no one had any money. That's right. No one had money. Remember that um they'd all like spunked it to try and get up, and then got a phone call. My dad actually said this was weird. My dad said in the car, he went, What about Carlisle? You might as well go and train with him. I says, Nah. And then I got a phone call the next day, come over. What was that just off the top of his head? Like he just said, Why don't you go, Carlisle? And I just went, you know what? I'll come over and I'll train. And then just driving over when you went past Tesco and you see the crowd. I'd never been a Carlisle United, never. And I went, yeah. I like it when the grounds in the city. Oh, yeah. They can walk to the stadium. And then I got there and I seen some of the players, and I was like, not bad. This and then we've had a friendly and Busshead pulls the coach round. It's better than Barnsley's coach. Then Simo pulls and says, Well, I'm the right go. And uh he says, I don't have to pay you because Barnsley have said they'll pay you this year. He says, So why don't you just come here and have fun and play every game? And then, as I say, 8,000 on the first day against like Canve Island, and then 2,000 away at Forest Green on the Saturday, and I was like, and I found it easy. It was easy. I went, you know what, I'll have a season. And then I only signed a month, and quite quickly, all the clubs came back in. I just went, Simmo, I'm just gonna sign the yeah, sign it. And then quite quickly, I signed another two.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:00

Whereas they give us extra on top of my variety money. It just shows you the different environment, innit? It just can change your whole mindset about football, isn't it? You went from nearly chucking it to a new environment thinking I don't even want to leave here now.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:11

Well we played Hartley Pool in the preseason friendly, I just signed the month and I turned it on and I went, How long you got? Yeah, I says a month. He goes, listen, I've moved a few things around, come back, League One. And I went, nah. I says, I know I'm playing, yeah. I'm uh I've like not got the number eight, I've got the 17, but I know it's my shirt.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:29

It's just about playing though, isn't it? Like I know we talk about like young lads and that, like, it's alright being at the big clubs, but if you're not playing, it means nothing.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:35

Like, it's good to talk about like and I could have went to Hartley Pool and played left out play, and then by by about that first month, I had eight games and then beweld.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:44

And you know how happy you are when you're playing all the time.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:48

It's a bit of arrogance when you go in the dressing room and you can kind of before you know you can take your stuff off card, get your shirts there.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:55

Oh, he's on an M and he getting his slips on, the short that gathered meaning the TV.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:59

That's why York said that, didn't he? He wanted to be a person where at Villa, when he was younger, he wanted to be someone like I think it was Paul McGrath or someone. He'd have his stuff on ready. And getting a rough, and he wasn't gonna be that. He knows, yeah. But they aye, so close to not yeah, thoughts about it. It was times in your chun that as well, isn't it? Times in your apprentice, though, apparently when you're apprentice, quite a few times in your head, don't you?

SPEAKER_00 1:07:23

Your mates are like 95 Monday to Friday thinking. Just go do that, can I? Friday night, they're all out. You're waiting on this game.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:31

Run around parks and keep yourself fit and that holidays when so when you're back pre-season, aren't you? You go in in July, they're all going away, and you're like running around the field and they're like wherever.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:42

But in our in our day though, it's alright, because there's no Instagram. You can't say what they're up to. Like they've got no mobile phons or in you're just away from them, but you know they're there.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:50

No, great question, great question. Got into it there, right, lads. I've had a right email again. Is this the X? No, right, let me get this right. I've got a list. Right. Right. Hi lads. I'm not sure which section of the show this should go in, but I like what's the crack, so can it go in there, please? So I'm an ex-pro footballer and just t wanted to tell you a tale of an ex-teammate's nightmare scenario back in the day. So we've played a match against Leeds in 2009, where my mate and his family and partner are all from, and all the lads have decided that we're going to stop over and make a weekend of it in his hometown. So the final whistle goes, we aren't even listening to the gaffer as we take off our boots to dive in the showers and get back to our digs to change and get out for a few warm-up pints in Headingley before hitting Leeds City Centre. My teammate in question is not really a drinker and is more of a tech fanatic. So he has one of the early editions of the iPhone. We remark that it's a big old unit and you won't lose that as it's like a laptop. This night my mate decided to drink as he was showing off his old town to us, his hometown to us. Fast forward a few hours, and we are a few drinks deep, and he comes over and says, For fuck's sake, I've lost my phone. There was nothing we could do as we were still not up to date with the iPhone craze and find my iPhone shite. He always needs to check in with his missus, so he uses my phone and says, Look, I've lost it. After a bit of heated to and fro, he says, Don't worry, no one can get into it. The code is my birthday, so no one is getting at it.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:42

Oh no, I know it's coming.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:43

Now, this is where it all starts to go to shit. In an absolute disastrous twist of fate for my teammate, his partner's friends and workmates were on a team night out in Leeds, who we had seen earlier, and we had 10 to 5 to 10 minutes with them. A few hours later, and I've checked my phone on the way home, and with the usual takeaway order of far too much food, thinking I could eat it all, and there is a message from my mate's partner. Hi, can you tell duh that I have his phone? My friend found it on the seat earlier when they were with you after you said got off and they'd never seen you after. She is dropping it off first thing. I told him and he was mortal, so was kind of pleased. He was basically asleep, so no dramas. So, his missus has the phone. All good, yeah? No. Curiosity got the better of her, and as he had revealed his PIN code was his birthday, she logged in. I knew that was the butt. Once it said the buttons sweat on, yeah. What she found can only be described as a double life. Two lasses, two lives, two sets of in-laws, lists and lists of reminders of excuses and fake training programme schedules, as well as a club letter headed blank sheet to fill in when he needed to stay over somewhere or stay away. So, like letter letterhead. Fucking hell. Like collar United paper. He's going out oldest ups, hasn't he? Needless to say, he has had a chitter, but he was fortunate to have us there over the next few weeks to totally take the piss. They tried again, it didn't last long, and his form at that time was absolutely horrendous due to the breakup. I'm sure in your careers you have heard a few of these over the years and maybe been involved in it. And I must say, it's bloody great when it's not you. Cheers, lads. Fun fact Lummy once hit me with a tackle at Brunton Park that only broke two of my toes, but his knee winded me as well, Ginger Twat. All the best. Can't say. But I'll tell you off the wow. Scandalous. When I read it, I went, I can picture it all.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:05

I'll tell you what, he's organised, isn't he?

SPEAKER_01 1:12:08

Okay, well. When was this as well? What year? 2009.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:11

So we all I don't know, I didn't get an iPhone until 12. I can't mind when I caught one, but that's what I was gonna like you've not got like AI, like I'm not being free. Now like make programs and like fake programmes now.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:22

Well I've done a bit of digging and the flat they had in when it all shit, he went, look, come and look at this. And he had lists and names and what he had to remember. And he went, now you just know I'll just stick them on the fridge. So when the phone rings, yeah, and then had again. Jesus, living one life's hard enough with your missus and your kids like two lives. He says being involved with it. I've gotta tell you the story, I won't name them. So my local, you've seen my local, my village, there's three locals, right? Everyone knows each other in Newcastle Killer Mart. So I've got there, and we call I'll track you after a game once, and my mates come over and we're just having a pint. And then one of my like close friends, like family friends, like dad's come over and he's went, Where's the thing? I went, What? He went, and he's named a player I've played with. And I went, What's the matter like? And he went, Don't take the piss, Chris. And I went, I went, honestly, what's the matter? And he went He's been saying what for six months. And I think he hasn't, because I went to his wedding. And he went, he went, he was here last Sunday carving the bloody chicken on the Sunday dinner. He's been having relationship. Oh, but then laws and that's and the thought I was covering for him, I was like, I'm not. I'm really not. But there's been also I've seen people with three phones.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:46

I've seen a lot of the phones and getting left in the change rooms and stuff.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:50

When I lived in the grove, obviously you know who's who was seeing who's missus, and it was ended up being a fully blown affair. I remember this. And they even sat in the same room sometimes. So he sat there, he sat there with his missus, and he's seeing her, but he's just sat there watching the teller like he doesn't hardly know her. And I'm like, I was but we all knew when you're like I was at college when the shit hit the fan.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:16

Were you because uh he looked out the window and went, Oh, where's thingy? Seen a car, he went, oh like it's been there half an hour and she was in the other lad's room. Come out, I can't name names.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:28

Nah, he can't name names, but it was international forgiveness. Yeah, no, international football, alright? But it was just mad. We sat in the same room thinking, he's seeing her, but that's his missus, and like we're all sat there just don't know where to look.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:40

Christ will cover everything today.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:42

See touching on that though, see nowadays with like so much like background checks and stuff like that. Do you think managers no but I mean like like managers they want they want to know everything about? Oh right, yeah, but I mean I mean like assigned players and stuff. Like, do you think stories like that about players that are known for being dogs? Ah, we go against it. Because I know I know Simmel is very like wants to know their personality, how they'd fit into a dressing room, he wants to he wants to know all that. Yeah, do you know what I mean? Yeah, so see if you're known for like we've played with boys are known for being a bit of town, do you know what I mean? Like, do you think that definitely goes against them?

SPEAKER_01 1:15:20

100%, yeah. Oh yeah, definitely. Used to be a bit of a laugh, didn't it? But then the baggage. I remember uh I'm gonna tell it. Okay, um for it. I love this thingy. Uh Jamie McGlen was telling us Nobby Slono seeing Jamie's ex Jamie was with her at the time, and he he kind of flirted on with her, so she told Jamie. So Jamie's went in the next day and went, Oh Nobby, what's crack last night? Reckon Shiro's gone. What's a crack, Jay? I was like, fucking, go on then. But uh alright, let Nobby's a nice lad. Ah, he's a nice guy.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:52

He's so Jamie was just like, What good hell? Nobby Solano was like, What a player, by the way. But he used to play like he used to ring people up in the middle of the night and play the trumpet down the phone and no private number. Just because massively into the trumpet. But obviously, he's the only man that plays the trumpet. So he's ringing the number, and everyone's like, no, it's you.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:10

Did you see that story was in the paper the other day about Nobby Solano? He said he came over, signed, and Steve Howie and someone else took him out, Late Clark, and uh went, right, we're gonna go to pitching piano at one o'clock and have some food and have some drinks. So then he used to drink like remember, they said you're on the pines, so he matched them, and then his lasses rang him at four o'clock. He's went, I'm so sorry, so sorry. He's like, I can't believe I've stayed out this time in the morning. She went, Alberto, it's four in the afternoon. He's absolutely good. Come home then. Right, last bit. Hi, lads. Just a quick one from me, Christine from Wigton. Yeah, you mentioned a few times that doing the jobs as apprentices really helped you in later life with discipline and standards. I've read recently that apprentices don't do much of that now. Some rightly, due to health and safety, but do you think some jobs should still be done and what should they be? Well, I've recently just coached Ollie Penny and Jack Porter. Ollie's Carlisle. Jack's just been released, unfortunately, but he's got some options. Great kid, great kid. Um and they were telling me they don't even have to do the boots anymore. But you know why they stopped doing them as well? Because the pros stopped tipping. And uh they taught me today, um well, people told me today, Callum Guy didn't tip his uh his boot boy, so he's boot boy for them.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:34

It's poor. Wow, it's poor. You live for them tips, yeah. Especially at Christmas, you need it. It was almost part of it though, wasn't it? You knew like you used to go back in the change room, how much did you get?

SPEAKER_01 1:17:42

How much did you get? Like people used to get 300. David Kelly, Ledge, and Castlex Island, 300 quid, like mates just buzzing me 20. How are it, man? 20. I had them ASICs white freezing in the winter as well or something.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:57

You're a hard eating more.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:02

And he had the keeper had like eight pairs.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:06

The job's all back in the do you know what the the worst job was? Did you ever carry the goals in the winter? Yeah, you thought your fucking fingers were gonna fall off.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:13

Do you have to put the nets on as well?

SPEAKER_02 1:18:17

But we used to take a chance, right? Because at Maiden Castle, there was two ways round, but there was one longer way, but there's one with a gate, and if you went on the gate was locked. Did you not try it together? Sometimes you try to tick, but you couldn't get it over. And if you didn't, you go lazy bats. And you're walking, and you you notice someone just the hands are under it.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:34

Aye, you'll not be anyway, are they? I scored the winner, 16-year-old at Highfield Road for Sutherland Reserves, one-nil, 16-year-old last minute. Next day in Lummy needs you in the coach's room. It's like, fucking yeah, we go. I always remember some chewing gum stuck in the floor for months. They went, can you get that up? I went, I know what you're doing, bringing me right back down to earth. Scraping with a fucking knife trying to get the chewing gum.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:59

That was all part of it though, wasn't it? Ah, of course. It's part of like that kind of respect, looking up to the first team, wanting to get there one day. Yeah, wanting to be one of them, yeah. Yeah, 100%.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:08

Do you ever remember the bit that goes viral? Peter Reedy swears the most that anyone's ever swore. Premier Passions, it was called it follows Sun London, that Premier League, I was an apprentice, so he swears so much at half-time against Bridgie and the team against Arsenal. So it was on Watchdog, he swears that much. Well, I've run in with a pot of tea, and I've heard them coming up. I've usually got to get there, get the pot of tea in that dressing room and get the fuck out. But I've mistimed it and they've came in, I hear the studs, so I've ran as a little multi-gym in the back, I've hid. You know, then multi-gym that's got like that, a leg thing opposite, and a pulley down, like an Argos special. So I'm hiding there. A little crunch machine, it's alright, it's nil-nil, gaff will be sound. He's absolutely torn into them, and I'm just like that hiding. I think if he sees me, he has, but then the camera blow comes in. He's am I have it? Yeah, film me, yeah. But I the job, I like the well, I like the jobs. I was on corridors, I was on balls, I was on coaches' room, you thing around, didn't you? Sweep the terraces, sweep the ball, the balls is a big one. The balls, I was gonna say that.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:12

If the balls weren't right and you got the old who's pumped these up, you're like your stomach's dropped, you're like, shit, that was big pressure, wasn't it? These are fucking.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:20

That's the only thing I used to get on to the lads, Carlisle. That balls. I used to I just go listen, lads, how I wasn't at our stuff.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:26

What job should they do? They should definitely still do the boots.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:28

Definitely should do the boots. Should I do the balls? Balls, boots, um carry the goals, probably well. The goals are there now, aren't they? Should they not do the boots? We used to, yeah, we used to pro come in. Can you get me kit? Yes. Do you want a cup of tea? There's your boots, anything else, yeah. Wipe me arse. Okay, fucking hell. Do you want to wipe or do you want a fucking toilet roll? Run the bath. If the bath was too hot, run the bath.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:58

Aye, I think she'd do majority of the jobs we used to do because they weren't. I mean saying health and safety, which ones are health and safety. Well, they're carrying the goals. Uh in the window and your hands all off now, and they're not. But majority of them, yeah. And I just think it's like Dylan said, it's where you want to get to where they are, don't you? I had a I had a clean Richard Hard's car. Did you? Honda Salika.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:17

Toyota Salika.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:20

I had to give Key and Diad a lift. You mate? He went, can I jump in your I've got a car, so man, fuck off. So we shop and I woke up in the car park and he's like, which is yours? I'm like, I had to put the key in, you know, to unlock it. He nearly never got in.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:34

What year was this?

SPEAKER_02 1:21:36

I think I had to drop him around the corner. It was about 2000.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:39

It was W Reg brand, you're off the room.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:40

Yeah, blue, all rise, blasted. They're your CDs. I was like, oh, dog through them. And uh and he says, just drop us here. And I seen him walking around the corner, so he wouldn't get out of where he lived. Oh, did he? He says, I can't get out of this here. That's why you've got it. You wouldn't have you win an old school job. And you know what was the worst? It was awkward the whole way there. Was it? Oh, 15 minutes of awkwardness, nothing to talk about. You think he would talk to, you know? Little bits and bobs, but I was like, I can't wait to get him out of my car. Ah, it's horrible then. So good luck at so far. Chris Macon jumped in with me when he first signed.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:11

I was 18. He was a like man. Chris Macon signed him from Marseille. He was top man, he was just chatting away.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:17

But did you ever get in any of the first-team pills, Carl's? Like when you were.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:22

David Kelly, when the first I was 16, he went, Listen, Jins, you need to come back with me. You need a few jobs doing. Jump in his Alpha Romeo sport.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:30

Do you know we used to get on the minibus and used to have to like wait till all the jobs were done? There's two minibuses. So I was remembering. She walked through with these two guys with suits on. And he got to the door. He went, lads, what do you reckon? Black, navy, or red jag? And they just all parked outside. He went, Oh, do you know who sponsored was he? He went, I'll have the black one this time. And he just like started laughing too. We would all get on the fucking rusty minibus.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:56

Yeah, I love out like that, mate.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:58

Bright. But no, I know.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:59

David Kelly used to go. Island's not even a uh fucking proper. Ireland's not even a country. He used to go just pull 1994 Gillette. Uh washbag playing the World Cup, haven't we? Right. Thank you very much again to Rob Gale and Haley Gale from RHG Properties. Again, they're a local property management company covering Cumbria. They help landlords run their properties as service to accommodation to bring them the best returns whilst also minimising the new rental rights laws. I might have to give them a ring, to be fair. Rob also, as we said, runs a Carlisle City junior team and is goalkeeper for Carlisle City over 35. And want to say a big, big thank you because without these sponsors, it doesn't happen, does it? Correct. Helping us get new kit, a couple of extra things we're doing. Yeah. Pay for the better. No, I didn't pay for the bell. But anyway, what's the score? It's it's two of that is a few. Anyway, I'm the boss, but seven four. I'm gonna use on getting next week. Right. Thank you very much. Yeah, thank you. Cheers, guys. All the best, lads.