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• Chris Lumsdon, Mark 'Skip' Boyd & Dylan McGeouch • Episode 20

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This week the lads get excited as the World Cup gets underway and they look back at some of their England and Scotland memories, including Lummy's Three Lions snub when the call came. 

Plenty of football stories as usual, including players that moved to WWE, International stars pinching girlfriends and the game's best drinkers.

The lads also talk through the day before their professional debuts and how they felt and Dylan talks about the nerves ahead of delivering a captain's speech in the Celtic huddle.



SPEAKER_02

Right. Welcome everyone. If you're watching on YouTube, we've got some uh some bad tops over there.

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Bad tops. I'm just saying that. Turquoise? No? Like light blue. Light blue is my colour. It's just a pierce over there. He might have wore this top. He might have done though. 1989 that had the white, we'll get the lead. So it's a 1989 England, but they had the white, the red, and the blue, probably to make a few quid. But it was only like 13 pounds a strip then. Nice. Skip's got the Gaza 90, 1990. I think it's carriage.

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No, that's just me. Uh eight quid. Eight quid. Is that in the teals? Yes, it was 1999. That's when he was at his best yeah.

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And then we've got Dylan, who and actually looks like a top, but it's a train top. It's a training top, right? Scotland train top. Top of the group, aren't they? Oh top of the group. I think we've got to mention that. Sunny how patriotic, patriotic Dylan is, even though he doesn't know who Don Hutchinson is, and he scored two of the most important goals for Scotland in the recent history. Again. Playing them, Dylan.

SPEAKER_04

Do you know Don Hutchinson is?

SPEAKER_05

I do. I do, I. I'm sure you have not had a lot of people. It's not very convincing. It was a big spike that messed up the setup. A lumor. Oh my god. Alright, that was good. So anyway, third season scored. The goal against England, Wembley, to go. We beat them 2-0 at Hamden to go to the Euros. He scored to make a 2-1 at Wembley, and we were on the ropes. Like, and I think Seaman made a great save near the end. And Scotland, if they scored that, would have beat us. What was that, a couple of years back at Hamden? Was it two each? Kane scored in the last minute. The Graphics Leak. Yeah. The one before that as well was um Kenny Muller down at Wembley, as well. Was that a draw? Remember he twisted he turned and had it? No, I think the the the Griff Nats were the closest I've thought. And then he's just switched off. Kane's side foot at volley. Yeah, yeah, that's right. And Hutchinson, Don Hutchinson scored against Germany away, side foot, because he was at uh Sunderland, certainly at the time of a couple of them. I remember when Gazaton calling Henry inside out and volleyed in. Oh, that wembro won up. Have you seen McCoy's talk about that? You say the action never spoke about that goal. That shows how good it goes. At Ibrooked, like in the stadium, like in the training ground that he never spoke about it. Because he never never spoke about it. Did we not have either? Aye.

SPEAKER_00

What's your name? Oh my god, you would have been Pum Bell.

SPEAKER_05

Carl. Is it Millerwell now? I played to him, yeah. Good player, very good player. Up at Aberdeen, but um a few of the boys had mentioned it. Yeah, he played in the hole for front or sulfur, didn't you? Solford and Caronda played in the hole. Yeah. Quite good. Ah, he's got a bit. Ah, he's a good player. So, never tell you about my England C Stor.

SPEAKER_01

No, go on.

SPEAKER_05

So, when you play in the National Leagues, when I say, so I had like always spoke about dropped a couple of years, like from Premier League.

SPEAKER_00

Wait there. This is big time, I bet you. I've got an I think on. I know you've got to say, it drops on the NCMs up there. I know what he's going to say.

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So towards the end of the National League, when we were playing, like in the you know, do the maths. I got 22 man of the matches out of it. But 20 foot hole.

SPEAKER_03

So England C or Percloff, Paul Percloff, the Barnet manager, yeah, memory bill, yeah.

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Got a letter through. You have been selected for England C for a tournament in Wales or Ireland? It was Ireland Mini European, like mini home nations, like tournaments straight after the season finishes. And you'll be there a week living in a hotel and playing every day. Nah. Refused. So Simo told us in a man, congratulations. I went, Simon, like you looked at him, he started smarting and he went, just say what you're thinking. I went, What? Just say what you think. I went I'm bigger than it.

SPEAKER_00

Did you? You were with a few.

SPEAKER_05

Started laughing at her. And then Matty Glennon called Hawley Wenf and they went, Come on, dummy, just come for the crack. I went, nah. And they went, You get an England cat? Went, sorry. And uh they went, and it was like they stayed in the swallow hilltop and they walked over to Guildford. Oh, was it? That's what it was like. Don't slightly Darren Barnard. Yeah, but for a national tournament. It was probably worse than that. It was worse than that. It's a Guilford Sam, but for an international tournament. So Matty Glenn, Carl Hawley went, and Darren Barnard, who I played at, yeah. But if he played Prem, like 33 year old he was at the time, he went. I think he walked out. Did he? And then that Paul Fairclub every night, they were having like call was ringing us, so I'm like in the pub of just got promoting. Yeah, just fighting buzzing buzzing. He's like, they're playing Scrabble and that games. So he picked about seven of the Barnet players, which he should, because we're in the league. And they were all there, and he said it was just absolutely torture. That's brutal.

SPEAKER_01

Made a good decision there. Very good.

SPEAKER_05

Very me and Simon Graham got offered to go to Japan with his team from Sheffield or something like that. They've spent every year they they invite two players from the National League to go with them, to pay for them, go to Japan, they get it. It's just like you holidays, me holiday. Then it was like I can't see you. So basically you're saying you turn your back on your country and you're sitting there with that on. What is he? Was it just keep does it just keep them in the alphabet?

SPEAKER_03

Like Yeah yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Big Chris Sutton, didn't he? Famously. Knocked it back, didn't he? But he there's a difference though, Lonny. I know you get 22 mana matches, but Big Sutton was one in Premier Leagues. I mean Sutton and Sheeter. Yeah, S A S. I think Sutton wasn't bigger than England B. He wasn't? Nah. And I think I was bigger than England C. Where you go then? I'm gonna stand by it. So see if it was B it came in, would you have been the getting closer to the the A? Would you took would you have took a B? Target was telling me last yesterday, I targeted when I was younger the 2006 World Cup. So when I was younger, my lists at the 2006 World Cup was my um. So instead of being at the 2006 World Cup, just won the two. You still won some of though, didn't you? Don't mind it though. I don't mind that putting it.

SPEAKER_01

You've got to set your you've got to sit on target high, haven't you? And then take what you can get.

SPEAKER_04

Speaking of taking what you can get, listen to this.

SPEAKER_06

Lads, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_05

Skip in particular. I'm very sorry. Listen to last week's podcast. It jogged Sorry, listening to last week's podcast and the ones before, it suddenly jogged my memory that I was indeed the one who filled you in in the nightclub toilet many years. Wow. No chance. Spinners.

SPEAKER_02

How do I remember?

SPEAKER_05

Well, there was a lad in a suit, always avoiding the ball with a pulled cough. In his hand was the mildest curry ever seen, consisting of chicken tea massara, playing rice.

SPEAKER_00

Sewing, not a prick. I was thinking who was it?

SPEAKER_06

Don't let Lummy, Dylan, and the gaffer bully you on the typical Englishman Indian order. Oh, and Dylan, go for a curry. Chinese.

SPEAKER_00

Eh? I see. See. Good work, boys. By the way, I've had I've had a lot of people say that to me. Yeah. I was like, what you on about? I was.

SPEAKER_05

I put my hands up the nines.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. You'll say that it was a bully.

SPEAKER_04

As long as you can admit to it, look yourself in the mirror and say you got it wrong. That's all that's.

SPEAKER_05

Something you've never done. I actually thought we were stopping the podcast there and heading to somebody's door. Have we got a name? Have we got a name? Who filled you in? I've seen his eyes and I've seen these eyes before, and I thought, I'm fighting tonight. Someone that said some of that.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Right. Another one quickly. Loving the show. Just a quick one on cheat codes. And champ. Remember last year we said our cheat codes weren't going this computer games?

SPEAKER_05

Championship manager, Commodore 64 days. If you selected Tram, yeah and input the name as Mr. Bulgaria as the manager's name, you got 30 million transfer budget. Massive in those days. Peanuts now. How do you ever find that out though? That's unbelievable that I don't even think you had to put Mr. Peanuts in. I think you start with Tramy, you got big duck. Aldridge was in Aldridge was the striper.

SPEAKER_01

While you're on that sort of uh topic, what about the messages sent you before about the the 38 and zero?

SPEAKER_04

Well that would have kept it, but let's go in.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry, go on, Scott.

SPEAKER_04

We'll go back.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, we'll get to it yet. Sorry, yeah. Go on.

SPEAKER_05

Anyway, intro episode don't even know.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but let's go for you now.

SPEAKER_05

Right, I've got to introduce us again because we've got new listeners. If you look at the graph, there's a lot of Norwich and Norfolk and do I everyone? Right. So hello, you're listening to me, Chris Lumsden, ex-Sunland Barnes in Carlisle. Mark Skip Boyd, ex Newcastle, Port Vale, Carlisle, and current player, Dylan McGeok, who is ex Celtic Hibbs, Sunland, Aberdeen, and Carlisle. And Scotland at National. And they've got the train. Right. Got a big thank you to put out here. A big thank you to our new sponsor today, Tony Masters Coaching. Please give his page a follow on Insta at Tony Masters Coaching. Personal trainer, an online coach, who has developed his Build Different program, which I've looked at and it's good. Which helps people transform their body, build confidence, and create sustainable habits without extreme diets or spending hours in the gym right up my street. He has helped hundreds of people lose weight, build muscle, improve fitness, and achieve results built around busy family and work life. So go and follow him and send the message built and you will get more info for free.

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I mean, I haven't seen him for a few years, and when I clicked on his page, I was like shocked. I was like, Jesus.

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SPEAKER_00

And he ended up in WWE. Oh, tell this story. So my keeper was called Stuart Tomlinson.

SPEAKER_04

Can the people Google, if they Google him, can they see that picture at Wembley?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, with me.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, there's a reason I didn't take my top off when I stood next to him.

SPEAKER_00

He's got muscles on muscles.

SPEAKER_01

It's um but what happened was he signed from I can't remember where he came from. He walked in the change rooms at um Salford where we trained and he whipped his top off while he sat next to me, didn't he? I thought, fuck's sake. As a keeper, mate, but as well as about six foot, but he he was for how built he was, you'd think he'd be stiff, yeah, but he was really agile.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but mate, when he whipped his top off, the whole change room just went, What the fucking hell is this?

SPEAKER_01

Awful mamma.

SPEAKER_00

Like there's like a bodybuilder. Um, and then he played uh he played for us and then he went on to Port Vale and Burton Albion, and then he got a call of WWE, you know, in yeah, yeah. He went uh Big Vince rang him, yeah. Big Vince McMahon, yeah. And he went over and he was there for two or three years and he quit.

SPEAKER_01

And they wanted him to stay, but he did have enough, so yeah, he's um but I've never seen a body on machine. Oh, frightening.

SPEAKER_02

I remember the pitch, he's just laughing, but I also looking going, I want to be so it's called Stuart Tomlinson, but his wrestling name was Hugo Knox.

SPEAKER_00

Hugo Knox called it. And he had the polka dot uh do you know the polka dot pads chunks on eye, speedo's eye? So if you if you google that, you're in for a treat, I'm telling you.

SPEAKER_05

That's class.

SPEAKER_00

There he is.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, and he was just got him up there. Looking in the mirror, man. Uh Mitty Grey for me, Megal Grey, no matter what, night out, not a night out, start of pre-season, on the biggest run ever, he's at the back, and you just come past you, not even be talking to you. So they were just naturally. So Peter Reed could drink and train. The old school, they all could. They all could do it back in then, yeah. They all say Brian Robson was just a different animal.

SPEAKER_04

Said he dri drank in a pool and Marvier or something.

SPEAKER_05

Was it with his West Brom manager? He didn't move, did he? He didn't move for like hours on the bud. But he they said wasn't he he wasn't high enough to piss in the pool. Doesn't change, does he? I didn't change, just like that. And they thought watching when he gets up here, he's not being okay. And the the the lads in the end, he'd seen them off every couple hours. He'll go and have a nap and coming back down to still setting hours, isn't it? And they said when he gets up, yeah, they'll go take the book what he'll stutter, he'll think he just got up bad lads. Straight line back down in an hour. I heard people bought like that. I know if I have a drink, I'm three days. Every person talks about says it was next day. Scott Brown was similar. It was like good to have a drink. Like did he drink Scott Brown? Ah, you can drink like not like Imagine he went about like Roy Keane later in his career, just cut it all out. No, listen, it didn't affect his training or games or anything, but he liked a drink. Do you know what I mean? Like, see if it was time to have a drink, he was having a drink and he'd force you like a few times. Like, because I see as soon as I take a shot of anything, I'm sick. Like, I'm spewing. Doesn't mind shots? Because you've got Scott Brown, who's the captain, and I'm what, 1920? He's putting it in front of you and he's saying drink it. And I'm kind of like when he's talking to somebody, I'm moving it behind it behind my glass, and that and then see when he sees it. Lucy's not pissed. He literally just used to give me one of them, like dig in the arm, drink that. I'm all sitting here with your no drinker. Can you move it? So we were what on that plan behind it's something we opened up the glass centre. So next to the stadium light, there's like a glass centre for the miners or something like that. So that we all went for a night out there and opened it and that. And Paul Butler, and I knew what he was doing. He was getting me and Convrie to race each other having shots, and I was winning easy, but he kept saying Consborn to wind us up, and I knew his line, but it worked. So I got on it. Your man found us in the garden about three hours. Wait, he's where you then this is Summer, now I live in Newcastle. How I got back.

SPEAKER_01

Did you play with Summerbell?

SPEAKER_05

No, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Listen to this, right? So I went to Carlisle and Summerbell. Mark Somerbell anyway.

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He's a middle's brown whiz kid.

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And the drink seeing Brian Robson's daughter.

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But the cleverest piss trainer I've ever seen just didn't get involved. Hayden. Didn't get involved. So I and I and the the time I got onto him was when we were doing old school shooting, so you in a line, pass it in, lay on shooting, pass it in, back of the queue. Every time in the back of queue, he was there. Didn't have one shot. She stood with the ball like that. On you go, on you go.

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The lads um drove him over, so you ran a pub, you were in the pub. So he was Brian Robson's for a while you were seeing Brian Robson's daughter, and as Brian Robson got sacked, the reckon they went a couple of days before you knew it was happening, you we had him in there with four and off yeah. That's right, I did that. But he came to Carlisle and Dennis Booth didn't come in at first with Simmore, did he? No. So Somerville could get away with it because John Wall wasn't really a drink. Simo was too busy with everything. Dennis Booth was just on it. And he went, Who's having who's got TCP? Why can't I smell TCP?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, so distinctive on it.

SPEAKER_05

Someone went, It's for me, he went, it's not. He went, someone's been drinking and they've swilled it out, and it was Somerville. You know the tracks, then I knew all the tracks. I knew it. Oh man. Uh Kevin Ball was just the machine dedicated. You know, back in 1990s when you weren't that dedicated, you were dedicated to it to but it was different, wasn't it? It was different to drink. But it was tell you what, you stole some shit when I was there as well. Like, but he was walking with a youth, and you could see he was a good age, but he was 1998. He'd walk out of the dressing room with multi-grain bars, nuts, fruit, and even the older ones were fucking sad bastard. But he got the most out of his career. Seen John Collins? We heard the stories of Ireland. Did he used to watch the first half of a um match with the right dumbbell?

SPEAKER_01

Charlie Mulgrew tells the best stories the hilarious.

SPEAKER_05

I've heard that as well. I think you fooled the story about that. Like, literally, lads, this is the standard you've got to get to, and all that. So the well, 40 or something. Those who haven't heard John Collins was manager at Hibbs since about 40 or he went in front of the lads and just whipped his top off and went, lads, this is the standard you have to show. Dutch himself, the lads having he's like prides on, he's like, I've had one beer my whole career and stuff like that. It was my wedding day, had one beer, but you sit and telling that to Scott Brown, do you know what I mean? Uh it's different. So you can imagine where that's going. Do you know what I mean? He's thinking, oh no.

SPEAKER_03

He's one beer.

SPEAKER_05

One beer, his whole his whole like career, whatever. Well, that's what Scott Brown used to say. He's like, You're not sitting here if you're not drinking. Dad don't trust Dean Ashton. When I went to crew on loan, Dean Ashton was the apprentice that drove meing to the training ground, and you see still like years 30. So injuries, he got a three million pound move at 19 to orange.

SPEAKER_01

Well, he'd done my medial, didn't he? I didn't just by blocking his shot. Oh hard, could he kick the ball? Yeah, I've like stretched out to block it and then do the box, mate, and he's too he's hit it, and my legs just went.

SPEAKER_04

He got injured in an England trading camp there. That was it.

SPEAKER_01

He did retire early, didn't he?

SPEAKER_05

Really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Doing he's doing he actually won in the pundits. Alright.

SPEAKER_05

I've got one for you while it's on topic as well with the World Cup, John McGain. His body shape. What is it? His body shape.

SPEAKER_02

But yeah, he's got a big arse there. Like I've got a shelf off.

SPEAKER_05

See when he see when he backs that in? He just backs like that's his thing now, isn't it? Like has he always used it like that though? No, he he's I think he's learned to use it more and it's a big asset to him. Do you know what I mean? Like, because you see boys in the Prem, they're athletes, do you know what I mean? Big solid guys, you think he's gonna get through about. But the ball's come before the ball's even coming, he's got hold of them, isn't he? And he's just backing in. And nobody can get it. Like even when you try and get your rolls on and stuff like that. So he can reel it that backing the clerk. You're in a big arsenal, yeah. Put his arts in. Um I've shown a big arse, lad, isn't she? I go on, this isn't. I mean, how you rolling them, how you shift them in, he went just let re bent as on him, get let them pick that arse, yours, and then they'll come and think they kick one way.

SPEAKER_01

But he's got to be one of the most like men in Britain now, John McGame.

SPEAKER_05

He loves him. You know what? Get rewards, don't you? If you're a good lad, he's get he's a he'll do you know what he is though, he's just one of the boys. This'll this'll that this'll never get better for him now. This is his peak, isn't it? That's it now. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Do you know? We'll ask you now while we're on the topic. Do you know why he does his celebration?

SPEAKER_05

I think I know, but you tell me, go on.

SPEAKER_01

So his nephew is called Jack, isn't he? Yes, and he wears eye protection to play football, and he does it to give him a bit of like confidence and other lads, so that makes him even bigger legend.

SPEAKER_05

Well, I see you was taught about it. He said that if that brings awareness, I think he doesn't do it for it, but it brings awareness for people who need to wear protection and all this kind of stuff. It would be a little bit different, think the difference but not maybe at a young age kids are getting picked on and stuff like that. Makes him a bigger legend. Um but now I was at a school today, back when I'm from, just doing a wee session and stuff with the kids and um getting them what we do, the John McGinnon and stuff like that. I wasn't always allowed to take any pictures of it. No, I I'd I like to assent now the primary school, like all the all the kids doing it. Been in the schools listen last week, lunatics. And yeah, my group's having a lot of people. I'll tell you what, take my hat off to the teachers though, innit? Because the kids have got some energy. You know what as well, the teachers have got a hell of a lot on their plates, but the disruptive ones, we've got to work out why they're disruptive, and you know what? They're not bad kids, they've got brains on them, they just need well that's where sport's quite good, innit? Like, I know we're gonna off topic a wee bit, but like sport kind of helps kids, like you can learn, like it can't like calms them down or gets their energy out of yeah, just different ways of teaching and stuff in it. When I'm waiting for one have a shot in that, one of them will open up to us about like you'll say, Oh, I I didn't sleep well last night. I'll ask them and they say me home life, something like that. And I wouldn't have got out of them in a classroom. Yeah, I would I only got out of them because we're taking shots and then you go back in and you work on it. Yeah, yeah. Oh, it's good that really good. Anyway, we need to put the record straight, our mates, Carl Social. So last week we were talking about which goalkeepers made it as managers, yeah. But the Carl Social had already covered it, and then I made a little quip of stop asking us to do stuff. It wasn't about the Carlisle Social. There were pals on Monday.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, everyone's gonna see something cut in the not that soon, but there's something ruined which maybe, but no, there's no beef with us.

SPEAKER_00

No, of course not.

SPEAKER_05

Phil Johnny and Hunt. And Hunt and Johnny, um, if people want to listen, it's on the BBC Sounds, Carlisle Social, every week about Carlisle United, an hour dedicated. And Johnny is next co is a coach at Gretna and stuff, but he's had a bad time with Tensor and it's he's doing well.

SPEAKER_00

Tell you what, he's not positive towards it, isn't he? And you know what I like to listen to him, I think he talks a lot of sense about football, doesn't he?

SPEAKER_05

I think uh he's one of them who you think he'd probably go in even without the I know he's had background in football, but you know when you get coaches in

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, 100%.

SPEAKER_05

So yeah. Clown watch for straight in. Straight in. You'll hear my Leicester City, Russell Martin. Oh really? So if Russell Martin, I'm gonna give him, I'm gonna give him a stay of execution. If in the first five or six games it doesn't go well and he's trying to play a philosophy out in League One, where basically they should have the best players, but if it doesn't work, something you know, I don't want Ian management again. He must interview well. I'll go the opposite way. I'll say they'll pesta league. They should. They will. I know they should, but I think I think he'll I think you'll get his career going again. I hope he does. You don't want you don't he does you don't want people to fail deal. I want him to. Of course, yeah. Because he kind of said itself, Damn, near the end, I need it to switch, so this might be it. Because obviously, with the results he gets, he must be a good blog and must be good to play for. I think for like clubs and sporting directors and all the people behind the scenes, do you know what I mean? Like they're trying to put things in place that gives you the best chance of success. Do you know what I mean? I think with his philosophy and what he's what he's interviewing, how he's interviewing, it's probably ticking a lot of boxes, do you know what I mean? But again, the hard part, and you probably met it, is getting that one at the pit.

SPEAKER_04

He has one for you.

SPEAKER_05

And if it clicks, it's it's amazing because he's already got promoted, didn't he, to the Premier League? But if it goes the other way at Rangers and you're not getting results and the fans are already on you, similar to Kaleo with Mike Williamson, do you mean like see if you don't start well, it's hard to go. He has one for you, just quickly. You say like Mike, he must interview well. But do you think now, because of all the social media you've got to do after games, through games, do you during the week everything a manager and is the do you think you've got to look a lot better now?

SPEAKER_01

Like as an appearance, look apart.

SPEAKER_05

Because we talked about Hunts about the social the other day, he said, and I agree with them, when a bloody manager or a coach is telling you to run round and you're like fing hell. Look after yourself. Look after yourself. Unless you're an older old end. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you're a young lad and you've got a kite on you and you you try to I think it's the world we live in now, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00

It's all about appearance and image and stuff.

SPEAKER_05

I mean cross-everyone that they call out after the last few years, though, has been call al anything I've seen.

SPEAKER_01

There's no everyone's every fitness coaching, every coach's we we went back to pre-season last night for Carl. See, it's a northern league. You want to see the shape our lads are in and how fit they are.

SPEAKER_04

Honestly, it's just impressive now, 1890. Like that only penny I coach is in a day.

SPEAKER_05

It's no different, huh?

SPEAKER_00

I'm not the other.

SPEAKER_05

I tell you what, no, I was on higher. I think they thought, who's this? Div, who's this old blow?

SPEAKER_00

It's Diadoras on. Bad news, then right.

SPEAKER_05

What about the drinks break at the thingy? Shocker just for adds.

SPEAKER_00

Shocker, and are you into the World Cup?

SPEAKER_05

Nah. I'm not yet. Like, I mean, it's too well as I said, I woke up this morning, two games have been played. I didn't like I didn't even watch that. Obviously, Messi's had trick, on it. Go to speak about that, man. Oh, he's phenomenal. But it's 39, I think, in the next couple of weeks. Do you know what? He just passes it in the net, doesn't he? To be fair, the keeper helped him, didn't he? The first one, yeah. Should have saved it. Yeah. I'll I'll love him though, man.

SPEAKER_00

I think he's a but yeah, the big hitters are fired now, aren't they? Harland and Bapi. Yeah, Messi.

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World class.

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Oh, shut up, man.

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You put them in that bracket. It was his first kick-up, wasn't it?

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But how before like we move on, how are people still speaking about the debate of Ronaldo and Messi? It's never been a debate, has it? Ronaldo Ronaldo's top. What? I knew you. I knew you. He doesn't, he's just like you to buy. He just wants to be different. How how are we still having this debate? No, it's not even.

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I am different, I'm getting a time every every couple of days.

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Do you know what? I didn't want to like Messi because he's always in the best teams, but yeah. What about on coaches? Naturally as well, and it's just naturally. Think of how many teams analyze whatever team he's playing again, he's in, and analyse them to death with all the technology we've got now, and they still can't stop him doing what he's doing. Have you seen the two minutes the show? The man you at Wembley Champions League final, the single pot as it's senior because he's to get man mart. He's just ruined his head at top him. But what I like about Ronaldo is because he's dedicated his complete life to getting that good. Everything he's done has not been natural. Yes, he had natural ability, but he was never a big lad. It's man-made and it's made him so like great in the internet in the city. Just Rooney done a documentary, and I remember they walked in. Rooney's like talk taking him around all traffic, and they walked into the gym room this like four o'clock in the afternoon, and Ronaldo's doing stepovers with weights and ankles. And he went, What you doing? And another went, so when I take these off on a Saturday, I'll feel much lighter. And this is like a 19-year-old cane.

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Just to get a cane for doing extra.

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Oh, did you or not? But they've just got that mindset in it. Like, and we'll go back on it, like your local nines and stuff that are wing. Probably got a bit of stick for being certain way and being a bit different. But then who's who's laughing? Oh yeah. Like, and obviously Ronaldo's got to what two out of the heck he's got. Do you know what I mean? But Messi's just a different level. Team in front of you, what didn't we? What we're thinking of being like will be the team. But we're gonna go. This is what we got in front of us, people. Pickford, right back, James, centre half stones and guy. Okay, guy, yeah. O'Reilly left back, and Callan guy centre mid.

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Is that Lewis guy?

SPEAKER_04

Call and guy's the one who didn't. He's the one who didn't. Lads.

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Callan Guy's playing center half for a link for England. It's gay, man. Gee. I'm three, and I know my I know the players better than you.

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You know what? For that, so it's not the same. He has one for Crown Wash. With skips driving, ask him what number he has on the volume. He can't have it on an odd number.

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If it lands on 11, he has to move it to 10 or 12. Don't even mention the number 13.

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Are you that suspicious, are you? No, odd numbers just freak not freak me out, but like it just I don't know. What is it? Is he? I'll take it off soon as I go. Yeah, there's one. Give him one plus nine, ten.

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Hey, don't take it off. On an early more heavy. Ooh. Him and Mick Wadsworth. So O'Reilly. Gay.

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Gay, Stones, James, Anderson and Rice Anchorin, Dallinham in front, Gordon on the left.

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Madaweke.

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Madaweke on the right, Kane up front. I'm saying that Conser will be in. Yeah. Instead of Stones. No, Gaye. Or I don't agree with that. But then. Will Saka play? I don't think he'll. No, I don't think Saka's struggling. I don't think Mariake. Marawake. I don't think he should. I think Gordon should go that way, and Rashford should definitely be in the middle. Rushford should play off left. Gordon will play off left. Rashford should be in. Can Rashford not play off the right? Yeah. I think I like the fact that one of them coming off the bench though. Gordon or Rashford's. I think he's got it thought of this. Isn't even going to be my team if we get in the final. I think he's got horses for quarters for every game. And can I watch Shallabah? Just get Maguire back in. Trent as well. Well, I've made me peace with Trent, but Maguire. Everyone has said, haven't they? Every ex-team have said the worst thing they will. Think about it from the opposition. You bring Maguire on for 10 minutes, even for a goal, you're like, oh fuck.

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It's the best penalty taker in the world.

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Aye. Just take him. Oh real. Do you think his interviews killed him? Killed him.

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But it was after.

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No, no, but he could still get called up. Now leaking his family leaked that challenge. And he's come out and said, I'm so disappointed, you'd all this and he got told your next in if something happened. Oh, did it? Yeah. Alright. Keep himself right. Imagine it was Grealish, Greece for that.

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Or should beats. Eh? Oh, I'll give it another day. Having Wayne Lineker. Just read Bobby. And he went on it for like a week. And then that report he got landed at the report for England. And that someone, I can't remember what it was, like on a podcast where he had a rough two days. I think it was Henderson when he had a rough two days and the movies. He's old school, isn't he? Sweating out.

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I'll tell you what, I think that went against him with Pep. I think so, yeah. I think I went to the bit. He done well that seems to with the tremble. And then obviously if he if he carried on with the performances and that, but it kind of looked like he just kind of he doesn't really like that. No, he's a bit do you know what I mean? He likes people that are proper. I wasn't saying dedicated, but he he went off the rails, didn't he, for like a week? Yeah, the right few weeks. Anderson's players are right, ain't it? Well, what a tire is by the way. Um he mate, he's aging, driving down to nothing for us. Didn't uh Geordie Lar just got in the team, didn't want to go, heartbroken because of the is it the PSI? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, they had to sort of do the business, didn't he?

SPEAKER_05

Um he was absolutely heartbroken, and then he even said he was late and was like try to say, listen, you're going from that amount of money to that, dig it out a year and you go again. It's unbelievable.

SPEAKER_01

Where's he gonna go? He's gonna see, isn't he? Is he? How much? How much?

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Over a hundred. Where's he from in Newcastle? 120. I actually don't know.

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He played footballs then boys for that was on live isn't it that's what I was just about to say.

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His brother was on lover, yeah. Watch it. No, I know this year, no.

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Oh, did I read?

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Is it good, Don? Fuck off. The message is anywhere I watched it this year, and I was raging it. I know.

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I I didn't, and then I can I went against.

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I feel like they should just one man in this room who could be in it. Sitting behind the camera. Exactly. I thought he might have fly. Now you've got a last. I've got one for you. Fancy a chat.

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How's you know when I tell that skip?

SPEAKER_05

She watches it. I'll tell you what, the messages get the egg where you just said that. Do you want to go for that chat? I'll tell you what I'm about to. You know, if I was a bombsh- so a bombshell, yeah, come here, right? You've only got your own borrowed time, haven't you? How never see you on a bottle if you're coming after?

SPEAKER_03

And just take it all in the hideaway and just get into them. And then get out, just leave, just go on SMR.

SPEAKER_02

You you that's unbelievable. You but we never tell you I got uh approach for first dates.

SPEAKER_00

No, you know.

SPEAKER_02

The first dates on channel 4.

SPEAKER_00

Was it not on databalls now? Or was it naked attraction? I thought it was.

SPEAKER_04

You, you, you, Chainsky, because you got on the weights and tracking. Oh that it's true, whatever you can get.

SPEAKER_05

2015 got an email. Do you know fancy it? I fancied it, and then you set a picture and you sat in there with it. What is it? So you just turn up like a blind date in Manchester restaurant. No, they go three dates, don't they? It was London when that so like none of this is channel four. Oh, so it is.

SPEAKER_01

I'm thinking of the so is it like a blind date? So you've never seen them all.

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You go into the bar, and then they bring a lass for you, and you have a meal in this dinghy with others going around. Oh, double. So I'd also say that.

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Imagine that steak and Matt you got them with them cameras on you, the lights and all that.

SPEAKER_05

They beat people low in the vote and went up. Oh, make that a double.

SPEAKER_04

Make that a double. Right, anyway. Let's go to the game tonight.

SPEAKER_05

Not you know, I'll let you know what would have went with how how many of that team there would get in the Scotland team? All of them.

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Let no, come on, let right, listen.

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Come on, serious. Go on, go on, go on. How many of them would get in the Scotland team? Right, go on, go on. The question off air, serious. Which Scotland team, which any of them Scotland lads get into that team? So I've had a look. You look at what Scotland have brought to the table, and it's a resounding fuck out. No, McGinnis. Madiwekie, he'd get in front of him. McTominay instead of Golden, maybe? Maybe as a 10. No, McTominay plays that plays that back half and half, innit?

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You're trying to accommodate you.

SPEAKER_05

Have you seen Shanklin this year? Instead of Kane. That's Steve Keane out there. Raisin Anderson. Portugal went a one-house sword. You joke. Did he?

SPEAKER_06

Is Ronaldo playing this? I thought Martin. Isn't Martin?

SPEAKER_05

Martinez. Martinez just can't be stopped.

SPEAKER_00

Played against him before. I have. Swansea, him and Leon Britain. Did not get a touch. Oh, and it's true.

SPEAKER_05

Memenium. Your horse last minute comes on and pops it. A good looking a million dollar. Big F I'll I'll twatter them off. Keep sauce with that, I thought. Yeah. Um, right, Dylan, no, not on again, maybe.

SPEAKER_06

All right.

SPEAKER_05

Quickly one.

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Pardon's gaffey.

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Just all right, Mad's question for you is just wondered your opinion on the expansion of the World Cup to 48. Should it be more exclusive for entertainment and having the better teams there for better game and viewing? Or is it better to have the likes of them to grow? I crack, however. Nice pronunciation tonight, terrific. For me, with the lesser team that takes away the integrity that we had 10 uh years ago. Top scorers back in the day were finishing on 4-6. Striker's now scoring 2-3 in the game because of the start of that. Just doesn't feel like a World Cup until the last 32 to 16 for me. Agree. Agree. I like the old format. Just wondered your opinions. Hey, yes, love the mention on Oli Penny as well, the lad who is at Carlisle, he's a scholar. Great to see him doing well. And his attitude brilliant. I coached him for eight years in football. Brilliant kid, great attitude. He deserves all the plaudits he gets. Coach. Same with Jack, Jack Porter too. We've got release, but we'll go out to great things in life. Yeah, so I agree. It's not the World Cup until Yeah, I agree. I don't listen to these groups. It's a Island can come to eight, nine o'clock kickoffs.

SPEAKER_00

And it's a bit like the the Champions League.

SPEAKER_01

Like, how many teams get in that now? Like, how many from England qualify? And is it four or five? It's just uh one there's too many. And uh I like it when one from Scotland.

SPEAKER_05

Is it one or two? Yeah, well, we're one of the big ones to win it on. One of my first ever Melbies was in the United v. Gothenburg in the final cup winners cup. Albertine. No, I'm not that fucking old. Just because you said Gothenburg, I think it would be. Gothenburg in the Cup Winners' Cup. Kevin Gallagher played up front for the United. Sven was manager of Gothenburg. Ruins White v. Orange in Gothenburg, wasn't it? Aye, that was one of my first ever man football.

SPEAKER_03

But yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I'm the same. I prefer it how it used to be where it's the best of the best.

SPEAKER_05

And it's waterbound, are we better than it? Yeah, what? A little bit, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Youths wouldn't have a win though if it wasn't for that.

SPEAKER_05

You're gonna sick off, aren't you? But top of the league. But top of the group. The group, am I? Yeah, they are, yeah. Who am I? 7-4. Let's go. On in 1984, our man started his career in the youth team at Bristol City and made 23 appearances in the first team, scoring two goals in the 2002-2003 season for a 55 grand move to Premier League club Fulham. He made his debut in the League Cup against Boston United, but was sent off in the last minute for diving to win a penalty, even though they were 4-1 up. He made his Premier League debut via Manchester United in a 1-1 draw and earned the Monday night MOM.

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Yeah, yeah.

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His first goal came against Lincoln again in the League Cup before signing a four-year extension in 2006. Hello. Wedge. In August 2007, he said goodbye to Fulham and joined fellow Premier League team Redin on a three-year deal with Saul Keon going the other way, saving a three-year contract.

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Anyone?

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I'm just going for all name at the Sedwill.

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Nope. No, good.

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He scored his first ever read-in goal, the Portsmouth in a 7-4 defeat over that game. In September 2009, he joined Ipswagon Loan under manager Roy Keane, but his next permanent move was to Hull City in 2010, where he played in the 2014 FA Cup final against Arsenal. He was released at the end of the 2014-15 season and joined Brighton on a three-year deal before retiring in 2018. 393 appearances, four goals, seven England under 21 caps. I think he's a defender. Four goals. For half a point.

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He's miles behind no chance. You can either get the next one if we have to. Show us a picture.

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You ready? I'm ready, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

Bristol City, Fulham, Redding, Hull, Brighton, Liam Racine. Right, take that pen.

SPEAKER_05

7-5. Right. Do not moan ever again, right? So this is for the viewers because you're gonna get it quite quick, I think. So we want them to play along. So once I say the first bell, don't shout it out, write down what you think.

SPEAKER_00

Oh right, that's why I got the pen.

SPEAKER_05

Don't show a Dylan. You do yours. Oh, we're doing it. Right, okay. Not just passing the pen when you've done it, right? You haven't said anything yet. Right, you ready? Who am I? Born 5th of May 1987. This player started his youth career at Livingston. Playing 77 times, scoring six goals before a 200,000 pound move to West Brom and Natoni Mowbray. Write it down. I've got it. If I don't say it.

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Have you got it scared? Show me.

SPEAKER_05

No. I'm back in the game massively.

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You get wrong.

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He made his Premier League debut against Man City, coming as second half sub. West Brom were relegated, and our man excelled in the championship, finishing the club's top scorer and helping West Brom regain their Premier League status. In April 2010, West Brom rejected a £4 million bid from West Ham. In 2013, he was made available for transfer but forced his way back in and signed a three-year three a new three-year contract with West Brom, but just months later joined Norwich City on a permanent deal. Absolutely k-ching weird in. He helped Norwich win promotion back to the Premier League. Livingston, West Bron, Norwich. Choking that.

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I haven't got a clue.

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Right? On 6th of July 2017, he moved to Rangers on a three-year deal for the fee of 1.3 million. He made his debut with Motherwell and scored both goals, but his Rangers career was plagued by injury and was released in 2019. He joined Dundee for a year and then finished in Australia with Western Sydney Warriors and then returned quickly to Dunfermline but only managed about 25 appearances. Not as many as I thought, around 350 appearances, 55 goals, 12 Scotland caps. This is so bad for me. My head went blanky, really bad. My head went blank. When you say it will he should I don't. Scotland caps as well. Is he? Dorran's. Correct, but no, if you're had no chance you're getting that. Graham Dorens. 7-6. I brought Snodgrass. I didn't go West Brom. MLE's. I know, I don't know why I thought Snodgrass. I've I've listened I've done everything I can now.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fair enough. There's your pen. Well done, Chris.

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Right.

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38-0, which you spoke about last week.

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Wait there, what's the scoring? Who am I?

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7-6.

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Still winning. That's alright. Carry on.

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So last week you spoke about the game 38-0. Yeah. When we you go on this platform game and you spin the wheel, and it gives you a team from 1993 to now Premier League teams, and you've got to pick one player, you make a consistent 11, and then you've got to win 38 games out of 38. We are my fit. Mine's about I could finish first, but I can't get that 38 years. Because I keep getting Southampton 92, and I've got to put yeah, you've made right.

SPEAKER_01

So we've had a couple in. Yeah. Got a message today on Instagram. Where's my phone?

SPEAKER_03

I thought you'd have this ready.

SPEAKER_01

Sorry. It's not my job. Alright, where are we? It was this one? Grant Carey.

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You're right.

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And here you go.

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Yeah, but the team, we're not the team. Has any team ever went and won every game in real life?

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Yeah, they go.

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No. No? No, the Invincibles Arsenal, but the Druze. They sell it done as well, didn't they?

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Yeah, here we go. Going there.

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His team was David Raya, Colin Hendry, Virgil van Dijk, Vatongan, Salah, Rodri, Fabragas, Bruno Fernandez, Catinio, Cantana, Thierry Henry.

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How's he got Spain? He's got it on easy.

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But if it's what yeah is Colin Hendry, 93, 94, 94, 95.

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94, 95 won the league.

SPEAKER_00

Had a rating of eight put over his head, wasn't it? You are it wasn't him in Gaza put over his head.

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So that's a winner. I want to know what setting he's on, but yeah.

SPEAKER_00

It's impressive though, isn't it? It is. So well done grant.

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Right. Marching on. What's the crack? Sponsored by the Everetton family, Tony, Lisa, Jaden, and Shea. Thank you very much. Much, much appreciated. He's in Columbia at the minute working. Is he? Cuba. Sorry, he's in Cuba. Right. Right, lads, could you take us through the day of your debut in football?

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I'll juggle first.

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Go on.

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Eighteen year old, Sumlin, second top in the league, a couple of injuries, training with the first team, um, knew I had a s a chance. Um the lad who was gonna play a right midfield, John Mullen, pulled out with illness. So I knew I was gonna be on the bench. I thought I've got a real chance. We travelled down um to Wolves, but we'd stopped halfway and trained, and we had a five-to-side, a little mess on, and then Bobby Saxon went. Everyone who started last week, plus myself and Gareth Hall was the right back with me. Still didn't click, so there's 11 of us there, and he went, Lummy, you stand on the front post for these corners, suddenly it clicked. I went, This is on a dog shit park, but anyway, it wasn't even goals there. Had a corner, I went, right, I'm on front post for corners, shit. I'm playing. It's like and then illness kicked in. No, just that night, I was next to the log coach driver. I've told this before, and the coach driver was deaf. Like, really hard of hearing. So his teddy was on all night, absolutely block. And then there was a wedding do next door, and um, who do you think you are like spice girls with blasting out? Couldn't sleep anyway, mate. So we're over it. I mean, for um just sitting there and because you okay round, do you want to sleep in tablets? I eat a lot.

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I was for all. And then the walk in the morning, I was a little bit nervy, but who's it against again? Wolves, wolves, that's right, yeah.

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Darren Ferguson. Did you win? I won nil last minute. How's you going? Done alright, 65 minutes.

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Decent.

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Done deep.

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Alright.

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Yeah. Yeah. Got the first touch, and the sun was in my eyes, and I passed it blind. Just went, please, please, please. Just go to something, Matthews, and it was just bad. And then the next thing I had a couple of touches, I would think, I'm out. Then you settled them, aren't you? And a couple of people. Aye. And then I got excited because I skinned someone and I was gonna shoot from like 50 yards out over stout 50. And I decided, I decided to calm down and then just passed it wide. And I was like, get a wee rapper for the fans. Right here. That moment though, just before kickoff, there was a ball, spare ball, right? So it wolves all the away fans like there on the southern took, fill that like the family. And there was a ball there and could be the kick, man. Went go and get it. And I went, don't want to go and get it. Went go and get it. I know what he was doing now. I ran to get it, and they all just busted up, yeah. Oh, I bet that was class, though. Fluster speech. You know, was it because the week earlier I was watching well, I knew I had a chance, I was watching Peter Biazzi's greatest goals or something. Wait, some good ones, I wasn't there. Myself, I've got a chance here by actually doing playing professional football on Saturday. So I surreal, absolutely surreal.

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Going to get it. Mine was um I'd had a really good pre-season. I'd went from Newcastle to Portville. So on the Friday we just done shape, and I fully expected to play because of the pre-season.

SPEAKER_01

I'd had but when you named the team, I knew I was in it, and it was a long night on Friday.

SPEAKER_05

But your your how good is the attitude when you're at Newcastle? It was kind of like me at Sunland. I could maybe make it, but when you go to Barnes, or when you go, oh well, you're the man, and you're like, Did you feel good? Or just because you hadn't had a loan though, hadn't you?

SPEAKER_00

No, I've never had a loan, so I'd never played a first team game. But like I said, I've told you before, unfortunately, I came up against Jason Coomer, so it got cut short after 56 minutes, mate. He was phenomenal, and we got beat 4-1. And I was banished from the first team for like two or three months. I didn't get another look in, and it was a nightmare of us. But then once I got back in, I was alright after that, but yeah, it was a disaster. Um and me and Charlie didn't speak much on the wheel.

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You probably need that a wee bit though, don't you? Like took it now, you it probably not went as you expected. Do you know when to come out? Do you know when I got took off though?

SPEAKER_00

Do you know when the the the fullback just throws in and you pop it back? Shame pad over his head, next thing 14's up, get come. Oh man, you know, and you shank one outplay.

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You just wanted the grind to swallow you up, don't you? Get him off, I think I heard a few shouts. Oh that's mad. Um Ming Ming came so I'd come on a few times off the bench. Yeah, yeah. So we've heard you few we've heard you like how you got on your beds, but you know when that the first start coming together, right? Yeah, it was a cup game because obviously all the league games I was just coming off the bench or whatever, and then the cup game, I can't remember who it was against. I should know this, but yeah, you should really know because I'd come off the bench, that was the big moments for me, yeah. So it was like right cup games and making like five, six changes or whatever it was, and then I was in. But the the most kind of I would say nervous but decided I was was in the huddle because as obviously we know self to do the huddle before the game, but the games I'd come on as a sub, I don't get the opportunity to be in the huddle. So it was almost like the nerves of being like who speaks in that or just just the captain, just the captain and everyone else listening to the captain. It's funny because there was a time where like a year or two down the line, it was my we went away um in January, it was like the break in Scotland, and we went away, and then my birthday's the 15th, and we had a pre-season game arranged. Eh, sorry, like uh a friendly arranged while we were away. So it came by the end of the week, um, and Lenny said we'd done this starting 11, and he was like, Dylan, you're gonna be captain. I think I was 19 or 20 at the time. Any big hitters playing? I think Charles McGrew and like one Yama and stuff like that. Big hatters, but like uh obviously Bruni wasn't playing, so he made like it was like I kind of just like a select to play this foreign team. Dylan, you're gonna be captain. I'm sure like as soon as he said that, I'm thinking, What am I gonna say in this area here? And then you've got big Charles McGrew, obviously he's a wind up matter. So I'm thinking, all I was thinking is what does Bruni say? What does Bruni say? Do you know what I mean? Like try to be like him, but in the warm-up, I honestly I can't remember the warm-up. I was in a like a different world. That's all you could think of, the huddle. Or I could think of shouldn't they give you it then? If I because I could go the other way that then. But it was it was because it was just uh was that the only thing bothering you, the huddle only thing was what am I gonna say here? And I hope the lads take it seriously and they don't laugh at me and I don't mess it up and all that. Do you know what I mean? And I can honestly I can't even remember what I said. I just opened my mouth and words came out and nobody laughed, so I thought brilliant, and then we played that game. Um but I that was just a little side story for that. But um I just excited more than nervous, I would say, for that other. When people ask these questions, I think it's not really the game they want to hear about, it's like the feeling and the nervousness. I like how your players look at you because we all know people have played before and we went, Well, are they ready? Ready for this, but you try and look after them, don't you? But you still get nervous, I think. Like speaking of it. I don't know about you is I I still like there's some games. See, when I don't feel nervous, I feel I feel like why am I no nervous? Like, no nervous, but like when you feel something, like you know there's a big game. We play leads at all when I'm grouping three, one, like so 16,000 at Carvals. Like I've never seen it so um so we do a huddle, and I remember the video, I'm just jumping up and down, like in the huddle, I'm jumping, uh, and like at the end, I just go, let's fucking kill them, eh? And that's it, and then that's it, and like Gieran Grassen used to just wait for me to go, so he wouldn't even listen to what's going on, but he'd just go bows.

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Elbow red down off you get.

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Yeah, but the thing was, I was like, let's fucking kill him. First touch was out of the air, and I was like, Oh no, here we go, make up break this, pulled it down, flicked it to the like right back. I went, Yeah, we go here we go with it. Goes away, goes the other way. Um, we've got a question about Celtic Nation and Gretna, but we'll take that next week. Go on then, yeah. I'm not prepared yet, and it's a little bit about he doesn't need them, we don't need to mention his name, but he was just interested in the Celtic Nation, the players' money, etc. And the Librain, and also similar to what happened at Gretna. Yeah. But we've got a few people who want to talk about Gretna and uh Scretna and Saltignation. Right, yeah. We'll make that a topic next week. Okay. So this goes on what's the crack again. I want to uh so following on from last week's debacle about you know the leads, the phone, the last finding out. Oh yeah. Yeah, I got my own story. God. So my mate, and it's alright to tell it. I was going to see who's getting through under the bottom. I know someone's gonna such a normal mate, not a footballer, no that. So remember C Night Club in Newcastle? Yeah. So all the Newcastle players used to go to C Night Club. So there's one week my mate's like, right, my lass is out, da da da da da. He goes, I'll pick you up. So it's C Night Club, you can pull outside, can't you? About 10 fucking you're waking on. So the mate went to pick her up. Lauren, she was called out. I can I can basically give most of the freaking details, yeah. So he's ringing and ringing, and it's not picking up. He's like, right, bloody hell. You know, sometimes it spills over, it's not a problem. She knows where I am, I pick her up nearly every week. Then he says, What a meal that mates goes, What's the crack? He went, Well, she was in the VIP bit before with the tomb players, which is not always a problem because the problem. The C Night Club, it's just always a problem. If I heard that, she's in the VIP with the Tomb players. Um double yell on my car, hazards on, and I'm in there. He was calm though, so he had been with me with the southern lads at times and that's right. Because they could trust you, uh Yeah, so it wasn't always like that. So he rings and rings and rings, nothing. He's nightclub's finished, everything's gone, he doesn't know where she is. So rings and rings and rings. Check know the chapties and that's still not a problem. Phone finally picks up. Yeah. A lad picks up on the who's this? It's Patrick. Patrick who? Patrick Clivert. Um, could you put Lauren on, please? No. Hung up. Shaking shitting dog.

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Oh sweat-ons a lot.

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I don't know if I'll be angry or excited that I've just both Clifer.

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So at this minute in time, I'll put I'll put the K on McMahon.

SPEAKER_05

At this minute in time in 90 uh 2005, whenever it was, he's all right, he's not well. Looking back now, but look at that day right now, he rings again. This is how Patrick answers the phone. And he still tells it to this day.

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Click, where's your bird?

SPEAKER_05

Where's your bird? She's here. Your bird's here with a big pattern. See you later. I'll take her back in the morning.

SPEAKER_01

It's disgusting.

SPEAKER_05

Texas, text her, she puts back, I'll be back in the morning. That's wow. Wow. Well, since your missus is gonna be up to that, at least it's a good story, innit? Like it was a at least there's no the like, do you know what I mean? The wee Scuddy is like who's been aye, kicking about the nightclubs and that. At least it's someday we have better better substance. This is what we've done in a way. We took them out and we took them to Stereo. Remember Stereo on a Sunday night in Newcastle? No. So this is where we thought it would be a good idea taking them to Stereo, get a few drinks down and it was like a nice cool place to go on a Sunday night. Big Patrick Balls in. Oh no, he's bigger as well, eh? That's the problem. Can't chin him. He's better looking than a he's got enough money to buy and sell with a lot of these.

SPEAKER_03

And the um but you know where I'm from, a few rough ass.

SPEAKER_05

Come on, we'll solve him out. We'll give it a go. But anyway, as we said, so they finished almost leaning that break binder that night as well. So she was regretful.

SPEAKER_04

But now it's one of the best stories ever to listen to when you're having a drink in the ball.

SPEAKER_05

That's what I mean. It's a great story, isn't it? How long was that 20 odd year ago?

SPEAKER_02

It it expands a little bit now. Like that, he went uh he just pretended he was having a piss off at the fight.

SPEAKER_05

So next to C Night Club, you can get onto the city, like the Tyne Bridges there. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, the walkway, so the Tyne Rivers there. So he pretended to have a piss, he's being sick.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, we put a piss broken, and then he went, he went, it wasn't like Google now where you can find out stuff he's gone, but yeah, yeah, lives at Darasol, or is that in the penthouse in uh Maison?

SPEAKER_00

Just charting round. That's so bad, man.

SPEAKER_03

There's no find my iPhones there now. So footballers have got a bad rep sometimes.

SPEAKER_05

Cool lad, big Patrick. But we uh heard Femus watched something the other day about uh who didn't the interview, not John Carber. He was managing uh Glenn Roder's assistant. Dean Saunders?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I can't he's way to listen to it.

SPEAKER_05

Sorry, Grape Sooners was manager, Dean Saunders was assistant, and Graeme was looking for a new place, and he went, Oh, Patrick lives down here, Patrick Plybert lives down this road to went down. I reckon he's weedy. Uh his recyclement was just bottles of Y, campaign, everything just to lie and say to enjoy yourself, the big man, didn't he? Yeah, it was at the end, wasn't he at Newcastle? I mean that run up. Well, it didn't run a mock, but it's just he's probably too hot. He didn't change, did he? Enough. I think if you were a 31-year-old player under Soonus and played five of the games, he'd loved you. Yeah. I think if you're a young player coming through, he'd kind of keep on to say you hadn't made it yet. You could go on there, aye. Aye. Like Sheera could have day off after day off, but I think if you were like even and Michael Owen, he'd still be.

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That's what I noticed when I was a young pro in Newcastle. Shearer just ran the club. He did.

SPEAKER_05

Do you remember Neil McDermott? Okay, for Kyle, those. Yeah, yeah. Terry McDermott. So Terry McDermott was in there as well. And um Graeme Soonis went to Neil McDermott, signed, right down three people he'd signed now, and he put Michael Owen, um Mike Owen. Who was it, the one? Joey. Oh, Solano and Sean Wright Phillips. Right. And Soonas went, I'll get I'm allowed to get two of them three. And he thinks, and Neil went, Oh, well, he'll get Solano and A baller back. Probably get Sean Wright Phillips. Never in his wildest dreams, though it would get bored because they thought he was going back to Liverpool as a right dream. Yeah, yeah. Well, that's all yeah. And uh they didn't get Sean Wright Phillips because he went to Chelsea. His Harmies were done then, though, weren't they? When he was that was that before he admits it, he only went to Newcastle to go back to Liverpool. He had to go to Watson before then. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's mad, isn't it? I know. He had some pull Soonis, to be fair to him, didn't he? I got and then not the reckon he said Nimak Dunner tells another good story. Soonis was walking up, and they'd just signed Mike Lowen, but they had Nobby Solano lined up, but the crowd didn't know it. And Mike Lowen's like walking up, but they're all going, What Nobby Solano? He's like, I just signed freaking Mike Darwin and there's significant Nobby Solano.

SPEAKER_00

I love him though, don't they? Because he'd been there before and done well. And he was quality as well.

SPEAKER_05

It was one of them where they've sold him, and everyone's like, Why? Remember the biggest kickoff ever. Was it Villa? No. Was it I Villa? I think it was Villa. 32-year-old Gary Speed to Bolton. On match of the day, went absolutely and they entered the game. Think we won. And he just went. I can't believe we sold someone like that. And look how £100,000. And look how much longer he played for. Yeah, I. Years and years, didn't he? At the top level. The legend in the game, isn't he? Oh, he was top draw, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Right? England game tonight, lads?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. Predictions, give us it. Two one us. Who's us? England. You told us.

SPEAKER_00

2-0 England.

SPEAKER_05

2-0?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, Harry Kane double. I'll go. Oh, don't start with your beat.

SPEAKER_01

Like, I'll go one each.

SPEAKER_05

I'm going under 3.5 goals. One each. Over six point five corners. Over 0.5. Under 2.5 bookings.

SPEAKER_01

Mm-hmm. Anything else?

SPEAKER_05

Harry Kane to have two shots on target.

SPEAKER_00

What have you got that on?

SPEAKER_05

No, that'll give you 63. It will 2 to 1. Did you see the ref last night with the penalty he never gave with Frank?

SPEAKER_04

Hey, could Messi not have been sent off?

SPEAKER_05

Why?

SPEAKER_04

Nah. Have you seen it? Yeah. They're in the slowed it down.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, but you use still images, it looks horrendous, but there was no like no nothing. He's literally trying to get the ball.

SPEAKER_04

You're off in the prem.

SPEAKER_05

Nah. Excessive force. Listen, I watched Scott.

SPEAKER_04

Not since he put that top on.

SPEAKER_05

Very the Scottish is coming out of it. But see we Wally Collin, who runs the referees in Scotland, he does, it's brilliant by the way. He does a thing. No, um Wally Collum. He's ahead of referees in Scotland. And see, every month he does a sit-down on YouTube and he goes through like maybe five big big decisions and explains either good or bad. Bad right. And it's good for fans to kind of see it like the from their side and they show you the VR, you get to hear everything. Like so it's really transparent, it's brilliant. But they always talk about excessive force and endangering an opponent or the fancy words. So I don't think it was either of them. Ah, you'd be disappointed, but when the freezer does look around, yeah, a lot of them do, don't you?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, Shearer was adamant that was a penalty, wasn't he? And when he went to the screen, he'd come back and the commentator was gone, it's a penalty, it's a penalty, and then just flashed up.

SPEAKER_05

She roll stopped shouting. So it right. Well cover um, I can't even remember the first 20 minutes of this. We've we've covered everything. Scott does. We went everywhere. I know. Meant to be a fucking podcast. But sponsor again, a big thank you to Tony Masters Coaching. Please, please give his page a follow and support him because he's local and he's supporting us, which means we can get the podcast out at Tony Masters Coaching, personal trainer and online coach who's developed his built different program. So if you get in touch with him and you want to lose weight, build muscle, improve fitness, and achieve results, text the word build and he'll get more input to you for free. He'll actually help you that way. And as a listener of the podcast, if you want to buy any of his plans or get involved with them, make sure you say you listen to this and you get 30% off, which is massive. Big, big discount. So thank you so much, Tony. And also, what you're following his page, he is running and draw £10 per entry or £600 worth of coaching if you win. And there's not many tickets up for sale, so you've got a big chance of winning. It'll be the bonus bone on the lottery where all the tickets are sold. So £10 an enemy. So please just go and follow Tony Master's coaching, and there's loads of info on there for him. So we'll say Lummies had a good day because I'm back in the mix with who am I? My top is probably number one in here. Skip's got number 19 on, so his head's gone. Uh yeah, I didn't need to. I want never like a marker on it and screw it up.

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That off before we go as home because you're in a angry man.

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I'll tell you what, Friday night Scotland, Morocco, we'll be six points top of the group.

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Yeah?

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Yeah. And I'll be uh watching who gets dumped on Love Island. Thank you very much.