Mary, Did You Know?

That's a SHELOC, Mama!

• Michael Wachowiak & Sean Ryan • Season 1 • Episode 6

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Mary, Did You Know that it's St. Patrick's Day Weekend??

This week we discuss the fake spring we've had over the past week, and how that is impacting our St. Patrick's Day weekend plans. We also talk about the thrills of homeownership and things you have to fix that you never even knew existed. We then have a movie discussion, with Sean breaking down Pillion, and Michael sharing his Oscar predictions ahead of the big show. Finally we wrap it up with our Mary, Did You Know segment, discussing some unlikely Broadway producers and how the government steals our money.

Follow the pod on Instagram and TikTok on @marydidyouknowpod and you can follow Michael on Instagram at @mikewachowiak and @michaelwachowiak on Tiktok, and Sean on Instagram & @seanzyryan and on TikTok at @seanzy_ryan.

SPEAKER_00

Mary, did you know?

SPEAKER_01

Hello, and welcome to Mary. Did you know the podcast? I'm Michael Wakawiak. And I am Sean Ryan.

SPEAKER_03

And well, I was gonna say, what a gorgeous spring day, but Yeah, funny how that happens, huh? Um, so for the shareholders living in Western New York.

SPEAKER_01

Not the local shareholders.

SPEAKER_03

The locals, yes, the locals. Um, you know, this is a topic you know all too well, unfortunately. And that's what we wanted to start uh start this episode off with is fake spring. And it was so fake because it was so nice. I know. And it's here's the thing this happens every year, and we always act shocked. Like don't act shocked. Don't act shocked. Don't act shocked. Um, it's really here's the thing. I there are pros and cons to both I don't know. There's pros and cons to fake spring.

SPEAKER_01

It does get you like it's like an appetizer, but it's like if when they gave you a charcuterie board after you were halfway through, they just like slapped you. Yeah. Like that's like like like like that's how it that's how it feels. Because it's like they're letting you enjoy it, and they're like, oh, doesn't this feel nice? Doesn't this feel nice? Whack. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

So this week started by a gorgeous, gorgeous 67 degree day on Monday. It's gorgeous. Um, sunny, like a light breeze. Um, you know, like people, fair-skinned people like me need to wear sunscreen. You were you were out there with your old-fashioned grillin, yeah, yeah, truck in front of you, really just living your fantasy. Yeah, truly the the the all-American dream, American fantasy out there. Um, yeah, so this week started beautifully. There were talk of like, where are the patios? Where are the patios? It was happening. And then and restaurants did put out their their patio seating. Did you see the posts from the dockside? I sure did. And I said, that's good marketing.

SPEAKER_01

Correct, correct, because it did remind me that they have that patio. Yeah, and I will be seated.

SPEAKER_03

I will be seated with a cocktail. Um, but there, yeah, there's so there's something about fake spring, and I knew it. I knew it was fake spring. I knew it wasn't real spring, I knew the weather wasn't here to stay, unfortunately. And this happens every year. Um but it's that first nice day that just breathes life back into you. Correct. I was like, this is what it feels like to be happy again. Correct.

SPEAKER_01

You know, why did I just think of the K-pop team? This is what it sounds like like it's that, but it's me running through the fields.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, yeah. That's um and it it's just a nice taste of what's to come. And it snowed today.

SPEAKER_01

And it snowed today. Although it is crazy because from when it started snowing to when I left my house, the snow melted on my car.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, yeah. It is like a very aggressive well, because right, oh yeah. So right now it's um 42 degrees outside, but this morning it was freezing. Correct. And I looked, I was working uh working from home and I looked out my window, blizzard, like white out, like heavy snow, too. Like it accumulated on the ground and now it's completely gone. You would never know that it snowed.

SPEAKER_01

Speaking of spring days, um, I we were talking earlier about how I had to move some audition dates around. Do you know what I realized that one of my original dates may have been on, which I will not I am now free for, is Tingus Day. I am realizing that that m um so I'm very I'm very excited to run around um and celebrate my Polish ancestry in a way that just involves drinking beer and wearing red. Yeah. Have you gone to Dingus? No, that's why I that's why when I realized it, because I know like Josh has gone and you and you've gone. I have like other friends who go, other other shareholders. Other shareholders, I was like, oh, I would love to go. And then I that was just gonna have to be the day that it was. And now I'm like, oh, now I'm free, and it's my off day from rehearsal. So I love that.

SPEAKER_03

I am um my first dingus day, I was with Josh. He took me. We've just been dating a little bit, right? Yeah, like a couple a couple months-ish. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Um no, wait, maybe you weren't even officially dating.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, we were seeing each other.

SPEAKER_01

You were seeing each other because we were seeing each other. It was it was April, would have been when the dingus day was. Yeah. Um that's seeing each other. It's giving partner. Anyway, sorry, continue on.

SPEAKER_03

Um, so he takes me out to Dingus Day, and we're just like bopping around to the bars. And who do I run into but Julie Strauma and Colin Benzo? Uh-huh. On the like they came from the same bus.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah, well, because there's a there's a friend connection there, I believe, from the YMCA, where they all used to work with certain people from the YMCA. Because I know uh these are not their government names, but Julie's friends, Pinky and Crumbs, Pinky and the Brain, they um they they know Colin, and so they were all on that bus together.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, which I was like shocked because I knew both of them, but I'm like to you two together. I was like, this is so random. I would have never put them together on the case. Never in a million years. Um, so that was a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_01

Also, for anyone who doesn't know, if you're not from Buffalo, because I don't know if this is a thing celebrated like globally. It's very big here. It's the day after Easter, so it's a big like Polish celebration the day after Easter. And it's I'm sure other places do it, but it's a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_03

The only shitty part is that it's always on a Monday, obviously. Which is crazy.

SPEAKER_01

But you know maybe maybe we we need to inquire about that, about that bus soon. And maybe I'll take a mental health day. Correct. I just took a I just took off the first half of Monday. Good for you. Well, I looked at my calendar, I don't have any meet like I don't have any like meetings I need to I need to be on, so I have a call at noon. And I was like, Yeah, I was like, can I just like not work till noon? Because like I'm gonna be painfully hung over. So why am I so I was like, so why not just take it off? Right. Um but speaking of Julie's trauma, a shareholder, I saw her the other day and she goes, you know how on like Spotify or like Apple when you're listening to a podcast, it says like you know, like recommend it, or like if you like this, you may like. She says, Nothing comes after you all. Oh she goes, one of one, the only one. She goes, There's nothing like it. If you like this, well, fix your taste. I just like the concept of the Spotify algorithm being like, if you like this, I don't know about you, and I can't figure it out. I got nothing for you. That's wild. But I am looking forward to nice weather again. Like, this is just I have like I also like spring and fall are great, they don't really exist as much as they should, but like spring and fall are the the best seasons because like summer gets a little too hot for me.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, and I feel like with global warming, like spring and fall are getting shorter and shorter, and summer and winter are getting longer and longer. And while that's great for the people who love summer, I am not one of those people who gags for summer.

SPEAKER_01

I gag for like summer vibes, I gag for summer activities. I do not gag for like 90 degrees and like humid. Like that's just never been correct my thing.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, and I don't get people who love that. Like I mentioned, I all always have to wear sunscreen. Yeah. And like I have yet to find a sunscreen that actually protects me that isn't like greasy and oily and like disgusting. Makes you like makes me feel gross. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whiter. Well, whiter for sure. Um, but yeah, so I am very excited for the warmer weather to come because yeah, I I was outside, I grilled. Um, I know you're a big grill master.

SPEAKER_01

I'm a big grill person as well. Well, you got me some grilling tools. I did, I got you a set, and I use them. Yes. You know what? One of my favorite things to grill. This is for the um for the the shareholders trying to save a dollar. Um, if you go like the tops or wagmans, they have like the you know, like the pre-made ribs. Yeah. They're always like$18. Girl, Aldi has those for like$8.99. And they are fabulous. I put more barbecue sauce on them, sort of like baste them as we go. Um, they're amazing. So it's a super easy thing to cook. And they're already cooked, so like you just sort of like warm them up.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. But highly recommend. So this past Monday, I um grilled vegetables, like a shit ton of veggies. I did like peppers and onions, and I did zucchini as well.

SPEAKER_01

Zucchini is very good.

SPEAKER_03

That was really good.

SPEAKER_01

We'll do zucchini. Um, we'll do uh broccoli and corn. I mean, obviously, corn you can grill, but like all like like doing like sort of charred broccoli. Yeah, also very good. Yeah. You can really put anything on the grill. That's what I've realized. Like having a grill, you can put anything on a grill. Yeah. How often do you clean your grill? Well, here's I don't know what the purpose is. This is like the the few things in my life that still I don't have to worry about because I effectively I do still live with my father. Like it's a different situation. Like for anyone who doesn't know, like my father is um 78 years old. Uh he's lovely. I wouldn't say he's in the best health, uh, but he's also not like, you know, sick. He's just, you know, had a stroke a couple years ago. So we take care of him. So we have the whole upstairs apartment. Um so the grill is his, and like magically it just gets clean.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

One of those things where it's like, oh, that's a privilege that I don't really understand. But I would personally like I give it, I use the like the iron brush scraper after every time I use it. Yes.

SPEAKER_03

But I don't know how else you have to clean it. Right. I I do the same, but I don't know if like I think the first time I used the grill was on my birthday last summer, where um Jimbo grilled everything.

SPEAKER_01

It was like new though. You had like a little bit of a big thing.

SPEAKER_03

It was brand new, it was brand new, but um yeah, so Jimbo grilled everything.

SPEAKER_01

Jimbo, I mean a lost in Japan anyway.

SPEAKER_03

Um so that was the first time I used the grill, and I immediately like cleaned it where I like took it apart and oh you like really cleaned it. Washed the the like grates and like the the thing that cover the burners.

SPEAKER_01

That to me feels like a seasonal thing.

SPEAKER_03

I that feels like a once-a-year like you do a deep clean like that. Yeah, otherwise I feel like you can like it was a shit ton of work, and I think in my mind I was like, oh, this is what people do after they use it. Oh no. And then I I think I quickly realized like that's a lot of work. And then I was like, I don't want to do this.

SPEAKER_01

Do you know that there's like stuff you're supposed to do to your dishwasher? I well, no, never once in my life, but I'm just saying, like, do you know what they're like, there are things like this where like, do you know that you're supposed to clean XYZ of your dishwasher? And I was like, no one told me that. I know, I know. It just like is in it's just in the house, isn't it? To me, it's like it's like the woman from Smart House, like it's just figuring it out. Yeah, like I'm not supposed to know how to do that, right?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I think I've seen videos of people like taking it apart and like cleaning on the like inside, and I'm just like isn't it just pushing water through?

SPEAKER_01

Isn't it like washing doesn't it have like a dry Isn't it self-washing? Right.

SPEAKER_03

Um yeah, I don't really understand that concept. But there's several things, again, around the house that like it's not my business.

SPEAKER_01

I guess I would say this is not what we were gonna discuss right now, but like what do you think what are like a couple things that like for like because I don't own I don't own a home. So like you Not yet. Not yet at some point, uh at some point. But so like what are things that you've discovered in homeownership in terms of like things that you never would have thought in your life that you I know we already talked about the crack of the foundation, which is one, but like what are some other things like that where you would have never once in your life thought about?

SPEAKER_03

Like filters, like filters for everything, pretty much. Like um, like the the HVAC filter that has to be changed every like three months, I think. I think yeah. Also, also wait, pause. What is an HVAC? Like your heating in the basement. Thank you. Yeah, like your furnace. Got oh god, okay, I'm gonna do it. The HVAC, I think, is I I could be making I could be making this up, but uh the HVAC is like the actual system of like you know the the heaters and if you if you say it's the pipes, but like the vents. Okay, the ventilation system, okay. Um ventilation, a air conditioning, HVAC. Oh, that that makes sense. I could be completely.

SPEAKER_01

Because you have central air, right? Yes, yes, and so I think that that is like that's I think that's what because it's all together, because that's we don't have central air in our home. And the reason that my dad is always given, although he is just a cheap Polak. So um the reason the reason he's always we're gonna beep that out. Is that a slur?

SPEAKER_03

I mean, I'm Polish. I I know I'm kidding. I marked the episodes as I was like explosive.

SPEAKER_01

Can't wait for Dingus Day, and then you'll I got this cheap Polak in my house. This cheap, this cheap stroke victim Polak. I love him. He's fine. He would laugh about it. Um get him on the pod. Uh he um uh he's got some stories. He does. He's always said that um it can't be many that cannot be shared. He's always said that uh when our furnace goes, that we would get central air because it's it is cheaper to do it all at once, which I do believe, but somehow our furnace, the one thing in our house that just refuses to go.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Luckily, the house came with central central air. Um my house growing up, my parents didn't we didn't have central air growing up, and then of course they waited until we left for college, and then they're gonna be able to get it. Oh, that's that's diabolic. Suffered my entire childhood. That's crazy. Um But I think it is quite expensive if you don't have central air to install central air.

SPEAKER_01

That's kind of what he said. He said that like it's e it's cheaper if you can install the HVAC system all at all at once. Because if you're already gonna have to replace the furnace, you can sort of bundle it. But I think if you I think if you just do the central air, it's very expensive.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, so I'm glad we have that. Um roofs, roofs, roof roofs. What's the plural?

SPEAKER_02

Rovs say the the plural of roof. Roofs? Roofs. Roofs. I don't I don't like roofs. I don't like roughs. I think it's roofs. Roofs. Okay. Roofs.

SPEAKER_03

Um roofs. Very expensive.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

We don't have to replace ours yet, but it's coming.

SPEAKER_01

We have a leak in our hallway. It now, shockingly, it doesn't happen when it snows. And I thought when it snowed a lot that when it melted fast, it would leak, but no, it's like if it rains, it's right like in our hallway, like when you'd make the turn to either either of the three bedrooms, and it um, it's just like a drip and the ceiling, it's like flaky. I know it's in our crawl space in like the attic, but like when I tell you no one has ever been up there in like 20 years, but I'm like, I don't even know what's up there, and like we need to get some and you have to enter from there's a closet in our living room, and you literally have to crawl to like the length of the apartment, and so that's not that's not my bag, but like someone's gonna have to do that.

SPEAKER_03

Um, you could ask Josh because so we had something similar. We had a leak um a couple months ago, and we have a crawl space. There's the entrance from the hallway upstairs um by our bedroom. Um, Josh went up there, and luckily there's like space. I think he he like could stand up. It's not like an actual crawl, like crawling around like army style, but um we had like a tiny little, I don't even know if it was a hole or something from like the roof, like some of the shingles were damaged in this one spot, so we had to get that fixed.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's kind of what I feel like it is. I don't think it's the whole roof, but I think there's like a bit that's like illegal.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, and I guess the the roofer who fixed our um that patch um was a family friend of uh the Mateki's, which was very nice. So I think he did it for free. Which like love, but he was like, Yeah, you're gonna need a new roof soon. And like those are probably like twenty to thirty thousand dollars. Isn't that crazy?

SPEAKER_01

I don't know how this works, but can't you get like a homeown, like a like a line of credit through your home? Isn't there a way to do that? Yeah, isn't there a way to do that? Yes. The HELOC. The HELOC. Girl, I don't know what these anyway. The She Lock.

SPEAKER_00

It's a She Lock. It's a She Lock.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, we need to be taken out. I know. Um people don't deserve rights. Listen, uh, by the day, I've got questions. Did you see what I posted today? The Devil Wears Prada 2. Yes. The bag? The bag I said, a popcorn bag. I hate being gay because why do I want this? Why do I need this? Correct. You will buy it. That's a She Lock. That's a She Lock. That's a She Lock, mama.

SPEAKER_02

Um my god screaming.

SPEAKER_01

Um also like the drip at our house probably keeps trying to like drink the bowl of water. Not that you will die. Please don't. Like, I need you to sit with water. Correct. Like in the he's like, and I go, mmm, not the giant fresh water in the other room. Well, yeah, from the faucet. Fresh enough. But I'm like, I'm like fresher than the like than the like asbestos rainwater coming coming down. Yeah. Anyway, speaking of asbestos rainwater, it's St. Patrick's Day weekend in Buffalo.

SPEAKER_03

Yes. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um I was gonna ask you what you usually do, but we do it together. Well, which is funny.

SPEAKER_01

Which is which is fun because that's not what I used. Like, I mean, I used to just like go to the parade. There was a one year where um uh Matt's cousin, what do you call like your like husband's cousin? I just like you say like I mean I guess you just say your husband's cousin. There's no like term for it. I know. I feel like I said cousin-in-law, that sounds crazy. I feel like I've said cousin-in-law. Okay, well, my cousin-in-law. Yeah. Um, she used to live in the apartments right above Coulter Bay. Ooh. And when they read when they when they read when they redid the building, they basically like evicted all of them. Um but I one year watched the parade from there. Oh, wow. Which was like opt- I mean like windows down, like had a lovely time. Yeah, yeah. But so I used to just go to the parade, but now I mean you can talk about what we do now, which is so much more fun.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, so I mean, so my family always gets a like hotel suite at what's the one next to the Walgreens. Yeah. I don't remember. It might be a residence. I think it's a residence in. Um they get a suite at that hotel, and the suite windows like face the the the road. Yeah. Where the parade route. So um like half my family always stays in the hotel and like watches from the window, and then the other half like goes down. And it's I mean, the past few years have been like kind of cold.

SPEAKER_01

Haven't one of your cousins have been in with the parade like some of the years too.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, so my cousin, her children are in Irish dancing, and they're a part of this group that performs at the parade. So they've been in the parade um for the past couple years, so it's just really cool. And then it's a it's a hotel suite, so my family's like, oh, bring, bring your friends. So, and I sure do.

SPEAKER_01

And you sure do well that's the also this something I've been thinking about, which is crazy, is that this is like a is this the this might be the fourth third year?

SPEAKER_03

I think it's the fourth.

SPEAKER_01

Fourth year. What's killing me is that when I'm thinking back on this, every year one of us has been in rehearsal or have or had a show. Yeah, but it's so funny because it's like the commitment is real. Because like I I've been to that hotel room and then gone to rehearsal. You've you've had we I've had you've had a show, then come after. Like we've we've we've made it work because it's so much fun. Yeah. And it's such a great idea. I think this was This might be the fifth year. Maybe. I don't think I went the first I don't think I I think I went for the first time four years ago.

SPEAKER_03

Because I remember I was in Beautiful, and we had a show, and then I went afterwards, and then I think the next year I could go, but you had a show.

SPEAKER_01

Well, you're we're thinking of it back, but so I had disaster rehearsal, and so that would have been 2023, and then you had Beautiful, which was 24, and then Tarzan was 2025. Okay. So I think maybe there was whatever was 2022, but maybe I didn't go 2022. This is riveting conversation forever for everybody. I know. Sorry. Okay, we'll get back on task. But um, yeah, so it's so much fun. I had it's like a great idea. Like, honestly, for any parade, like I mean, like sometimes you want to be like down in like the craziness, but like it's a brilliant idea to just get a hotel space on the parade route. Yes. To be able to still feel like you're watching, but not be on the street. Especially like, you know, pride parade, it's always gonna be nice, almost always gonna be nice. Correct. March is iffy, it's very iffy. The weather might be shitty. It's nice to have like a room to watch it and then not be down with the peasants on the ground.

SPEAKER_03

Right, right. So yeah, so I'm looking forward to that this weekend. Um when this episode comes out, it'll already have happened.

SPEAKER_01

So And that's why we're recording now because the divas are gonna be down. Yeah. And then we're I think it sounds like we're both uh separately going to the South Buffalo Parade as well.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I don't usually go to the South Buffalo Parade, so I'm interested to see.

SPEAKER_01

I was talking to my husband about the South Buffalo Parade today, and I go, in some ways, like it's more of a mess than the regular parade. But I hear it's like unlike the regular parade where it's just a little corporate, I go, I believe that all those crazy people are in South Buffalo. Like not meant like compliment. Like I believe that that is the the the people of South Buffalo having a good time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because that isn't that like the Irish It's where like the Irish center is, yeah. It's like South that's South Buffalo. That's um we uh I went last year briefly because it was pouring rain. Um I met some of our friends there, and it was it was it was like crazy because you know, like the Buffalo one, they'll be throwing out like beads. They were throwing like cans of Guinness at people. I'm obsessed. So it was uh a little aggressive, but oh my goodness. Um and it's early. That one starts at 11. Yeah. I mean, two o'clock is kind of late for the other parade. It is, but and it's and it's it's long. Do you like Guinness? You know, here's the thing. Um that you know, I'm not really a big beer girly. I am getting better, actually. Like, love a blue light. Yeah. I feel like you've been drinking a lot more beer. And I like an IPA now. That used to be something I didn't really like. I don't really love a stout, which I feel like is in the vein of where Guinness is.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, it is, yeah, Guinness is a stout.

SPEAKER_01

I would say I prefer Guinness over like some like, you know, more like local brew. Stouts I've had. I think it just is a little smoother. Yeah. But I'm always gonna go more for yeah, like an IPA or like a lager, or I probably would even do a sour over a stout. Like that's just like my preference.

SPEAKER_03

I'm I feel like I'm a fake Irishman because I really don't like stouts.

SPEAKER_01

Have you been? We were just discussing the honeymoon. Have you been to Ireland?

SPEAKER_03

I've never been to Ireland.

SPEAKER_01

So a recommendation I would give for you. I mean, sure. I'm gonna go to the Guinness Factory. Do you want to wear as think you'll have more fun, which I have been to, is the Jameson Distillery. Yes? Yeah, yeah. That you plan on doing that. I would recommend, I mean, the Guinness, the Guinness thing is is great, but I think the Jameson distillery is so cool. You get to see how and then at the end they do it, like a blind taste test. And they give you like Jack and all this other stuff, and you do see how much smoother the Jameson is in a lot of like the American whiskies. Yeah. Um, I recommend. So you so you don't really like Guinness either?

SPEAKER_03

Um, I'll drink it around St. Patrick's Day, um, but I'm never like craving a Guinness.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, it's just like so heavy. It's it is heavy. It's a it's a lot of very caloric.

SPEAKER_01

Also, why are there Also why are there rules? Why are there rules about how I need to eat or how I need to drink this? Like how you have to pour it.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, well, okay, because that's this is my dad's like favorite fact. Okay, is that there's something about Guinness where the um like the the foam, it foams in the opposite direction. Okay. Whereas like when you pour a regular beer, like the foam rises. But when you pour a Guinness, you just dump it all into like the cup and like the foam settles. Is it that like a board? Is it that like ball that's in there? I think that has something to do with it. It's like the I don't know. I don't know what it is, but all I know is the foam settles in the opposite direction.

SPEAKER_01

And you know what? I believe her. Believe women. Yes. Okay, I think we can take a break now. Okay, perfect. So we'll be right back. And we're back. You know, people ask me if that's live every time, and I say yes. Do they really? They do. The people, the shareholders. Um, okay, so we were speaking of seasons earlier, but it's my favorite season. Do you know what that is? I'm sure I do. Award season. So the Oscars are Sunday in uh inexplicably, because I thought that they were last week and actually planned a lot of my life around that. I thought they were gonna be last week. I think I texted you. Like, are the Oscars on too? Yeah, no, I like committed to like a party which I now can't go to, which really bums me out. But I wanted to talk a bit about the Oscars. And also just like movies in general. I know you you saw a movie recently which you said was very very good. Um, so I guess first I wanted to just like quickly like give some rapid fire projections of what I think is going to happen. Go ahead. Because then this will come out after the Oscars. So people listening will know immediately if I was right or wrong. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, the hardest stuff, it's like it's one battle after another versus sinners. Have you watched them both? No. You've seen Sinners though, right? No. I know. Girl, you have to work they're both on HBO.

SPEAKER_03

I know, I know. You have to watch them. I'm just so bad. I'm so bad at like movies just because I just I it's a commitment.

SPEAKER_01

I know. Yes, and yes, but think about it this way. I know it's harder to think about it this way, but girl, it's like two episodes of a of a program. I I know it's different. I know.

SPEAKER_03

I understand mentally why it's why it's different. Like, I will spend four hours rotting instead of watching a two-hour movie, but for some reason, like girl, it's no, I get it.

SPEAKER_01

But I will, I will, I will tell you, like, they are the they are my two top two movies of the year, and they are the two best movies of the year.

SPEAKER_03

I did hear that one battle after another was incredible.

SPEAKER_01

It's I think I recently rewatched them both to see because they were the only two movies I gave five stars to on my little little letterbox tap all year, and so I had to rewatch them both to see like what I really felt. And on a rewatch, I do feel that I believe one battle after another is better. It's like 30 minutes longer and feels shorter. It's like it's the the thing about Sinners is like 210. Sinners is spooky, isn't it? Yeah, it's about like vampires and um Haley. I know Haley's in it. Haley, Hayley, Haley Steinfeld. Um, yeah, it's basically well, Sinners is so cool because it's about I think this background's interesting. Like Ryan Kugler, who made Black Panther and Creed and all this stuff, he's the writer, director. He signed this crazy deal because he, you know, doing after Black Panther, whatever, it was his first original movie. And so he was shopping it to all the different studios, being like, I'm gonna make this movie for you. I want this budget of X amount. The deal he wanted, which is what he got, is that after 25 years, the copyright of this movie reverts to him and his family. Meaning, like, Warner Brothers won't own it anymore. He owns the movie. Wait, that's which like no one has that. That's like a crazy deal. But they knew that they'd make a shit ton of money with the movie, and they knew that even if in the long run they won't get hundred years of residuals, the next 25 years they'll make a shit ton of money. So it's still a gamble worth doing. Right. Um, people are gonna fight for that deal all the time, they're not gonna get it, but he was in a unique position. But the movie is kind of about it's about a bunch of like white Irish vampires sucking the blood out of black people. Like, so it's sort of about the act of when you are stealing art from those who make it. Gotcha. In a in in a way, because when you watch it, it's not, it is a vampire movie, and the last 40 minutes is like bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, like amazing action-y stuff, but it's not a vampire movie. You're not watching, you're not watching, well, Twilight sounds derogatory, but like you're not watching like Dracula or something. It's it's it's uh and one battle after another is I mean, one battle after another opens with them freeing a bunch of people from an immigration detention center. So it's like, it's like, and they didn't even necessarily I mean they knew that's been happening for a while now, but it's like incredibly timely and it's so good. So I recommend them both. Sinners is the most nominated movie ever at the Academy Awards. Oh, wow. 16 nominations, which is crazy. Wow. There was a new category this year. This is like my like cocoa melon. I know everything about this. There was not my cocoa melon. There was a um there was a new category this year, so the most you could get was higher. But I what I love about Sinners is that they got 16, so even with the added category, they still would have beat the record. Wow. Like even if they're even if they took it away, yeah, no one's ever got 15. So damn. Um, but it's because they got when you have it's a period piece, so there's all the costumes production design. There's a song, an original song that's nominated. Like, oh wow. Once you get like into the musical territory as well, it's also basically a musical. Anyway. Okay. Um, I think one battle after another is still gonna win. I think that they are neck and neck. People think that Sinners is gonna take it over the top, but I do think it's going to be one battle after another. The acting races are cuckoo crazy bananas, because people thought Timothy Chalamet was going to win. And there's always drama with him recently, but that all happened after voting closed. Like all of the stuff with the opera and ballet stuff, voting has already been closed. I just think people like are a little annoyed by him in that movie in general, Marty Supreme. But I don't know who's gonna win because Michael B. Jordan won the SAG Award, and this might sound rude. He's good in that movie. I re-watched it. It's not like a I need to give you an Oscar performance, but he might very well win. That's who I think is gonna win. Um, I would vote for Leonardo DiCaprio, he's quite good. Really? One battle after another. Best actress is gonna go to Jesse Buckley for Hamnet. No one else is going to win. Um she's winning boots down. I don't know if that one would be your speed. It was fine. I thought it was fine.

SPEAKER_03

I read the first five pages of the book and I said, Mama, this is not fair.

SPEAKER_01

That was I think my selection killed killed the book club. Because I said we never met again. I said, let's read, let's read Hamlet. No one ever read again. Hamnet, not Hamlet. Um then the supporting categories are crazy. And so my predictions are gonna be for supporting actor, I think it's gonna be Sean Penn for one battle after another, which is so funny because he's just not attending any award shows. Oh, this will be his third Oscar, and to win your third Oscar and not show up is unfortunately kind of cunt. He's not gonna show up. I mean, he hasn't been showing up. He won the BAFTA and the SAG Award and it wasn't there. Oh, wow. He was at the Golden Globes, but he was smoking inside. There were always always clubs, and you know what? I say let him smoke. Let him smoke. But that yeah, he that would be his third Oscar, which is kind of crazy. And then supporting actress, girl, throw it, throw a dart at the wall. Because then it's it's between three people. It's between Tayana Taylor from one battle after another. Her character name, you ready for this? Perfidia Beverly Hills cunt. Also, welcome to the stage. The other thing I will say about this movie when Matt and I watched it, which we still quote to this day, she has a thing where she like, I don't want to spoil it, she like leaves someone at some point and she puts up a piece of paper on the wall and it just says, This pussy don't pop for you. That's iconic. And we think about it all the time. This pussy don't pop for you. Um and then um Woomie Masako, who plays Michael one Michael B. Jordan plays Twins in Cinners, and so it's one of the twins' like the ones with Haley and the other one's with Woomy. She's the sort of um I don't know. It's she like sort of practices like some like witchcrafty stuff, and she's the one who's like, they're vampires. Like we need to, I know how to fix them, or I know how to get rid of them. And then Amy Madigan from Weapons who plays Aunt Gl Aunt Gladys. Have you seen have you seen the that one? Weapons? She's the one, yeah, yeah. She's the one with like the red, the red weapon. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I think she might win. She's who I've got my money on. Okay. Because people like her.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And she is ooky spooky in that in that movie. Okay. So those are my like hot, really like rapid fire takes on what's gonna happen at the Oscars. So I say Amy Madigan, Sean Penn, Michael B. Jordan, Jesse Buckley, Paul Thomas Anderson will win director over Ryan Kugler, and one battle after another will win best pitcher. If these are all wrong, slay. I'm normally pretty good. You are pretty good. One more thing, and I will usually go. I will stop yapping about myself. Do you know what I find one of my most favorite things? But there is tragedy in this. One year on Gold Derby. Do you know what this site is? No. Site called Gold Derby. You can like predict the nominations and the wins of stuff. 20 20 2016 Tony Awards. I was guessing the nominations, which are harder. Yeah. Well, yeah. I only missed two of the entire suite of the Tony Awards. Like, I guessed every nomination for plays and musicals. Oh my god. To the point where Gold Derby gave me a hundred dollar Amazon gift card and then asked to interview me. And so I did a Zoom interview where they asked me, like, how did you do this? And I just talked about whatever, never posted it. Oh, never aired it. I'm dead. And I swear to God, it happened. I need to find that footage. It does not exist. Oh, I'm sure it exists somewhere. Somewhere. I probably said something rough and they said, Don't show him. Or they probably were like, he's gonna take all of our jobs. I do feel like that may have been it. Because they were like, How did you know the nominee's the best lighting design of a play? They said he like how did you guess it? He's too powerful. But also, to me, I say it was an easy season. It was the season of Hamilton waitress. Like, you knew how some of that was gonna go. Yeah. But I just think they were like, How did you know it was gonna be those three men from Hamilton? I was like, I don't, I just sort of like, it was off of vibes. But that they never posted that.

SPEAKER_03

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_01

They never did. What's the website called?

SPEAKER_03

GoldDerby.com. GoldDerby.com.

SPEAKER_01

We're coming for you. We're coming for you because they did I, you know what? I that is how I bought our bar cart. Yeah, so that's my like rapid fire things about movies, but I want to pass it to you now, so I stop yapping. Um, I know you saw a good movie recently, didn't you? I did. I did. I saw Pillion.

SPEAKER_03

Uh-huh. Um a very gay movie. Um, I'm just really bad about going to see movies, and I actually really enjoy going to the theater and seeing movies. I just don't do it that often. Is the last one you see you went before that when we saw The Substance?

SPEAKER_01

Well, the Taylor Swift feature film. Call that a movie, but sure. Yeah, yeah. And yeah, I think the substance was a good thing. Well, seeing the substance is a top memory for me because we knew we knew nothing. Yeah. And that was you saying, Hey, I think this movie looks good. Do you want to go see it? I go, I kind of was scared by it, but I'll go with you and blown away.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. So good. Um, yeah. So I need to get better about actually going to see movies. But Josh and I went to see Pillion um a couple weeks ago, and it was really good, but it's it's one of those movies that's like it's kind of hard to watch. Yeah. Um, just because it's about this guy, and he like lives with his parents. He's probably his his his age is never disclosed, but you would think he's like mid-20s.

SPEAKER_01

It's Dudley Dursley from Harry Potter.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he is incredible in the movie, like he's fantastic, and it's um one of the Scars Guards. Alexander Alexander Skarsgard, the one from Big Little Eyes. Yeah. And so it follows the story of this kid who is, I would say, mid-20s, living with his parents, and he like just can't find love. And his mom is so sweet, and she's also like dying of cancer. Oh shit. And um, she she tries her hardest to like keep setting him up on these dates because all her wish is is for him to find love. And so he goes to this bar and he meets this guy who plays who is uh Alexander Skarsgard. He plays the character, who is like a leather daddy, like like dom top, like you know. I've seen the trailer, yeah. And so he like hooks up with him, and then like the the main character is just like enamored with him, and he like falls in love with him and completely changes his life for this guy, and it's just kind of there's no there's no shame in whatever you're into, but I think the the moral of the movie was that like you know sometimes you find love and you know your first heartbreak just kind of like kind of ruins you, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01

And like so that like if you like if you if you are in something that passionate and that intense, you kind of lose your highs can be high, and then the lows are gonna be low.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, and like there's this really heartbreaking scene where like he finally stands up for himself with this guy, and he the Alexander Skarsgard says, What are you not happy? And he says, I'm happy, but I could be happier. Oh and like you j it's just one of those moments where you're just like, Oh my god. Oh god. And are you gonna see it? At some point, yeah. Okay, do you want me to spoil it? Yeah, don't don't fully spoil it. Okay, um, but yeah, so it's just it's one of those movies where you just kind of feel for the main character, and I like was watching him lose himself.

SPEAKER_01

And I also wonder if it's a little it's by a like a younger writer director who's around the same age. I wonder if it's somewhat based on true experiences.

SPEAKER_03

It might be because like there's there's so much heart to it, and it's a beautiful movie. Yeah, like it is so well done, and it's there there are so many vulgar scenes.

SPEAKER_01

Well, they do well, that's what that's what you said. They do this thing called like actors on actors, where you know, like they they they interview each other, and Stellan Skarsgard, his father of Mamma Mia fame, um, is in this movie called Sentimental Value this year, and which is a great movie. And so they had them do an interview with each other, but I go, So you mean to tell me that you made his father what like watch this movie where he does unspeakable things?

SPEAKER_03

And truly unspeakable, like it is filthy. Oh boop this diva up. Josh and I were sitting there like looking at each other, like, oh my god.

SPEAKER_01

Were you the only ones there?

SPEAKER_03

No, they all worked. There were three other people in the movies. There were two girls that randomly decided to see this piece together. To see billion. And then there was a guy by himself, and I was like, Oh, he was oh he oh, he was yanking.

SPEAKER_01

He was gooning in the corner there.

SPEAKER_03

He might have been, but I also like I was a little scared just because he hit a backpack. Oh my god, I you never know. You never know.

SPEAKER_01

I was like, listen, this is like how I go when see seeing Billy and at least she went out in a fun way. When Matt and I saw Saltburn, we were like the two people that saw because Saltburn was a big hit once it was on Prime. Yeah, but like we saw it in the theater because I loved promising young women, so I was like, I want to see her next movie. And so we saw it, and it was us and about 12 girls that were really excited to see Jigga Ballordy, and what a treat it was to watch how that went down. Oh my god. Because they were like, Oh my god! And we're sitting there like hee hee hee hee.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, um, like with like licking the the you know what from the eat tub. Yeah. Um, it was kind of the same situation. The two girls, I could hear them just like giggling and just being like I feel like it was similar when we were at the substance. I feel like we were those girls because we were like, I remember sitting upright in my chair.

SPEAKER_01

There were quite a few people in that theater, I'm pretty sure. I don't think you I don't think it was playing everywhere. So I think it we was like we were a very active house. We all were, yes. Um, I wanted to also quickly go. I'm gonna pull up my letterbox because I don't which I recommend this app for any of the shareholders. It's called Letterboxd. I love it because you can like rank your favorite stuff. Um, so it's like I every movie I do, I can give like a rating to. I can like do all this shit.

SPEAKER_03

You it's kind of like um that app for books, but yes, right. What's that called? I use Story Graph. Okay. Um, good reads.

SPEAKER_01

It also wait, fun question for you. Oh, I oh, I I I love this. Um, it makes you list your four favorite movies when you sign up and they stay on your profile. What are your four favorite movies? Or or or or what would you put as your because it could change all the time. I recently changed mine.

SPEAKER_03

Hmm. This is tough. I again, I'm not like a movie person, so I feel like I don't but I feel like often there are ones like from your like you. Well, yes, The Wizard of Oz is will always be one of my favorites. Boom. Um I do think Mean Girls was very formative in my in my youth. You got two more. I'm really bad at this. That's okay. You don't have to have Oh, um Oh my god, what's it called? It's um the movie about the two gay guys that um one of them dies from cancer.

SPEAKER_01

From cancer.

SPEAKER_03

It was on Peacock.

SPEAKER_01

Um, but oh my gosh. Um oh I texted you spoiler alert. Spoiler alert. Jesus Christ, yeah, no. You texted me and basically watched that in real time with each other, and it was heavy.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. It was I rewatched it. I watched it, and then I re-watched it. Rewatching it as an active terrorist. Because I made Josh watch it. Because he hadn't seen it, and I was like, you have to watch this. And we both were like, Shah.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. Anything else? Um, something you like to watch. It's gotta be like a thing you revisit. Like Oh, How the Grinch Stole Christmas.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, there you go. The Jim Carrey version.

SPEAKER_01

Christine Chris Christine Branski. Yes. Um, I love those. I recently updated mine. I did have Mean Girls in there. I always sort of change the last one because it just depends how I'm how I'm feeling, what the vibe is. My number one, which is weird because a newer movie is Lady Bird, which I know you haven't seen, which is Wait, I did watch it.

SPEAKER_00

Did you watch it? Yes, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, it's fantastic.

SPEAKER_00

You watched it?

SPEAKER_01

I did. Oh, because I did it. I watched it um a couple months ago. At some point I said to you, I was like, please watch this movie. It's yeah, it's important to me. Isn't it? It's to me, it's it's fantastic. It's a perfect movie. It's 90 minutes. Yeah, it's it's semi-autobiographical of Greta Gerwig, Sosheronin, incredible. Beanie Feldstein, yeah, maybe the best thing she she's ever done. Lori Metcalf, the mother, the scene when she's driving away at the end sobs. Yeah, no, I fucking love Lady Bird. Matt, and I say all the time, it is the titular role. Yeah. Stephen McKinley Henderson. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the moment the moment I knew that movie was for me is when they started doing a production of Marile. And I was like, what is the other line I love from that is when Beanie gets Mary in Marrily, um, she's like, I don't know how I got this. And Lady Bird's like, yeah, I was the one that wore a dress and prepared a song. Just incredible. Um, so Lady Bird's number one. Number two is Mary Poppins. Um just like means so much to me. Was like I used to think my babysitter growing up was Mary Poppins because she kind of looked like her. Um, number three is Moulin Rouge. It's a mess, but it's like my favorite. Like, I just like Nicole Kimmen in that movie is everything to me always. Yeah. And then I used to have Mean Girls on my top four, but I gotta say, and this one, our our good friend Leah Burst will appreciate this one. Interstellar. Oh my gosh. I love that movie. But then a few of us went to go see the re-release and like the 70 millimeter IMAX, and it was I was like mind blown. And I sob. Oh, I was there for that. Oh, yeah, you were there, yeah. I I mean like the the scene, I'm so spoilers. I don't fucking care. It came out like forever ago. But like there's a scene where like when they when time goes really fast. Yes, and the scene where Matthew McConaughey is like watching his kids grow up over the tapes because they've spent two time close to a black hole. I just like I just heaving sobs every single time I watch it. And like I don't care about science, like it's just vibes. Like there are people who are like, it doesn't make sense. And they go, it does like it's like kind of how the end of Harry Potter is about like love. Like it doesn't really matter. Like it's it's the the vibes are right and the vibes are good. Yeah, and it that so after I saw that movie, I was like, this is fucking incredible. Yeah. The only other thing I might throw in there is like Beauty and the Beast, like the animated one. Yes, is like another just like that's my favorite Disney. Oh, hands down hands down, yeah. Belle, boots, like boots on, yeah. No, Beauty and the Beast. And you know what the worst thing is? There's this tour going around, which is probably gonna try to make its way to Broadway soon. They cut the big fight. There is no fight. Oh my god, like they don't do like the at the castle, it's not there because when Toy did it, it wasn't there. And I asked, I go, guys, did you guys cut the fight? They go, it's not in the licensed version. Anymore.

SPEAKER_03

Why? Trash. Why? Trash. I need to see that carpet tumbling across the stage.

SPEAKER_01

I didn't see that words are going, woohoo! Yes, I need to see it. Yeah, it pisses me the fuck off. That's crazy. Yeah. But um, sorry. The only other thing I was gonna share is some um on my like top 10 of the the year, just a couple movies that I don't think the world has seen that I would recommend. Um, one is um really, I guess I'll just do uh three. Um one is Twinless, it's with um Dylan O'Brien. It's I think on Hulu, it's really good. Okay, it's kind of like Dear of Enhansen about a twin, where somebody meets someone in a twin support group and there's a little bit more going on there. But Dylan O'Brien plays the twin who's alive and the dead gay twin. Okay. And not only is he aggressively hot, as both of them, particularly the gay one, um, I was like it floored by how.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, so here's a question for you, and not to cut you off, but for actors who play two characters, how does that work for awards? Like could they be nominated for different characters?

SPEAKER_01

Or it's just it's just I mean, that's Michael B. Jordan this year. He's he plays smoke and stack in centers, and he's nominated for both. I mean he's he's his performance is nominated because he yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, but he wouldn't be nominated for specifics.

SPEAKER_01

It's the same way with like Dylan O'Brien and Twinless. He plays both of the twins, but he's just nominated. There's a weird performance. There's weird Matt and I were talking about this the other day about awards about um about like the Matildas and the Billy Elliott's about how we were oh, we were discussing because have you seen anything about the Paddington musical in London? No, so it's you know, like Paddington like the bear. It's crazy, it's this animatronic bear that there's like someone inside moving it, but there's an actor who's the singing and speaking voice, but the actor who's the singing and speaking voice has the control to automate the face, so that like they're synced up with like how they're emoting. But then crazy it's crazy, but the Olivier's which make up their own rules all the time, like they nominated all six girls from six for one for one nomination. Like, what the fuck is that? But it's like they nominated both the puppeteer and the actor in the same like they're they're sharing a nom a nomination, which I get because how do you separate it? Right, but that's weird, right? Like, how do you do that?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, for and it's like in a performance category.

SPEAKER_01

And I think there was weird vibes when the Billy Elliots won um uh for Billy Elliott because like they all three were together and like none of you saw all three of them. Right. Which is why when the Matildas were on Broadway, they uh they all just got a special Tony. They got like a they just gave them an award because it was unfair to put them in a competitive category.

SPEAKER_03

Right.

SPEAKER_01

Because they're they're not yeah, because if one is like it's three different performances, right, correct. I just find that very weird that like, and I think they it wasn't a big backlash, but I think there was behind the scenes backlash to the Billy Elliott thing. Because I mean that makes sense. Because then like there was like that year I was like, Gavin Creole was nominated, Brian Darcy James, like a lot of these people that like probably were like, what do you mean those three fucking pip squeaks? I'd be pissed. Beat me. Yeah, but then and last fact I'll say about awards, do you know the only time the Tonies have nominated two people for one performance? I guess I should rephrase two people who were on stage the whole time but shared one nomination. Was it sideshow? Yes. That's crazy. Like, because the Billlies are different because it's they only those are different characters. No. Yeah. Fully playing Daisy Hilton and Violet Hilton, the nomination was Alice Ripley and Emily Skinner, Sideshow. They had one nomination, meaning if they won, they both won. It's crazy. It's never happened since that doesn't make sense to them. Because even when the revival happened, they were submitted separately. They were both eligible, they weren't nominated, but they were both eligible for leading actors in a musical.

SPEAKER_00

Because they're two different people.

SPEAKER_01

To nominate them together. Together is crazy. And I don't even think they they didn't they didn't win. I think it may have been maybe Heather Hadley won. No, I don't know who won. But yeah, they but like it's wild. Yeah. Wild. Anyway, this is what the inside of my brain sounds like. Um so we're gonna take a break and we will be right back. Sounds good. And we're back. And now it's time for our favorite segment. The titular. The titular segment. Mary, did you know? Did you know? Mary, what do you know today?

SPEAKER_03

Okay, so I think you might have seen this. Uh, I just saw it on on social media um over the past couple days. But um, Mary, did you know that the Obamas are now becoming Broadway producers?

SPEAKER_00

Okay, of what?

SPEAKER_03

So they're doing their their company, which is um higher ground. Yeah, um, they are becoming producers on Proof. Oh shit. Okay. Which is a play that Second Gen is producing in the fall. But I think they're they're opening next.

SPEAKER_01

No, they're opening soon. It's the one with IO Debris and Don Don Cheadle. Um Kristen, who's directing proof, is going to see it when she goes to see she's going to Dunny's first preview and opening of kids. Maybe she'll see the Obama's there. She might see the wait, wait, that's again.

SPEAKER_03

I saw a funny post that was like Barack is going for Egot.

SPEAKER_01

Well, okay, well, that's what I love to. I had a joke from a couple years ago because Hillary Clinton is a Tony nominated producer of SUFs. And you know, and do you know who do you know who else was? Malala. And so I used to say Tony loser Malala. And Tony loser Hillary Clinton. But I mean, I'm not shocked. Higher ground, I mean, they've I've only they haven't they haven't yet gotten into like narrative filmmaking, to my understanding. They do have a lot of great documentaries on Netflix that I've watched, but I guess it makes sense. I mean, there's there's money in it. Yeah. Also, even if that show's bad, it's gonna make money. Right. It's a four-person play that has two famous people in it.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, like it's going to do well, right? Right. Yeah, so I I was just shocked to that was not what I thought I was gonna see on my like morning scroll. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Um, that the Obamas are becoming Broadway producers. Broadway producers.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, and you know they're gonna be at they're gonna be at the Tony Awards. Oh, hell yeah. They're gonna drag their asses out. Oh, hell yeah. It's crazy to say this having a podcast, but like, why does Michelle Obama have a podcast? Like, does she know she doesn't need to do that?

SPEAKER_03

Right. I mean she's got stuff to say.

SPEAKER_01

You know, and apparently about apparently about housewives. And good for her. Did you see her? She did a full dissertation to her, like I think her brother's her co-ho, she was explaining like Teresa. She was DJ? She was explaining like how she went to prison and like took the fall for her husband. Oh wow. Oh, yeah. Literally, she was like, I'm gonna have to tune in. She was like, You, you, you, what do you know about Teresa Judice? Michelle, Michelle Obama. Yeah, that's crazy. You know what?

SPEAKER_03

We don't do guests on this pod just yet, but she'll be our first.

SPEAKER_01

She'll be our first. But you know what? That's it's an easy way to get an e-got. And you know who spearheaded this before all the other girls were doing it? Whoopi Goldberg's Tony. Yes. Thoroughly Modern Millie. She produced Thoroughly Modern Milly. Oh, I didn't know that. Yep. That was our first. Uh-huh. Wow. And so I think she I think she may have gotten a special one for one of her solo shows, too. But yeah, she was she really like pioneered that because now people do it. I mean, that's like again. I also think there's a I think there's a difference in vanity producing. Where like the ob No Shade to the Obamas, that production is already announced and fully coming. I think they're just kind of giving their money.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

There's a difference between like Angelina Jolie produced The Outsiders. And she, like, from my understanding, was like actively involved with the development of the outsiders.

SPEAKER_03

Well, yes, because I feel like if you're gonna produce a show, you you should be involved from the beginning. Otherwise, like you said, it's it's an already established production that is gonna happen with or without their money.

SPEAKER_01

Like, girl, we could we could we could get a Tony. Yeah, it's really not that hard. Yeah, if you like put your money in the in the right thing, yeah, you can get like that's like what's her face? Jenna Uschkowitz from Glee, who played Tina, has two Tonies. Uh because she produced Once on Us Island and the Inheritance. That's why. Which like go off. Like, love that for you. But it's like, girl, also, so many people from Glee have Tonies, but not Leah Michelle. Damn. I do think she'll be nominated this year. Leah Michelle catching strays. Yeah, I do think she'll finally get it. She's not even a toy nominee. She wasn't she wasn't nominated for Spring for S Spring Awakening. Which is kind of crazy. Kind of crazy, except, again, not to get into my awards bagalore, but you brought up the topic. Yes, but in retrospect to the Tony's made the correct decision. Because not that she was not iconic in Spring Awakening, but that year the category is Christine Ebersaw wins for Grey Gardens. They it's her, it's like a bunch of big names. Deborah Monk for Curtains, Audrey McDonald for 110 in the shade, um Donna Murphy for a musical called Love Music, and then So those are all like the big heavy hitters. Yeah. And then they chose between Leah Michelle or Laurel Belbundi for Legally Blonde, and they made their and they made the right decision. You know what I mean? Like they made, even though Legally Blonde didn't get the best musical nomination, which is a crime, you don't watch Laura Balbundy do that and not go, that's my that's my girl. That's the Shivak. What was it called? She Lock. She Lock. Laura Balbunny's my She Lock. Yeah. It's my Sheila, my She Lock. My Shayla. Well, I'm interested to see. Well, I can't wait to call the Obama's Tony losers this year. And maybe they'll be Tony winners. Yeah. That's how you know you know RuPaul's a Tony. He has a Tony. He produced a strange loop. That's crazy. I mean, produce is a loose term. He wiggled, he like threw he like threw him a tip. Yeah, yeah. That's how he tipped the dolls. That's how Jennifer Hudson got her egot. Well, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_01

I think it's a little fake. I feel like we need to start be I still think we need to police the egot.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I think so too. But with the Obamas, I feel like in my mind they can do no wrong. Correct.

SPEAKER_01

No, oh, I support them. I see them.

SPEAKER_03

So I'm like, listen.

SPEAKER_01

And I hope the play is good. We'll see.

SPEAKER_03

I don't know the piece, but I'm sure I'll be seeing second gen.

SPEAKER_01

It's very well cast. Like they are the the people they have in it are are well. I think it's a good point. Io, uh, unfortunately, I feel like has been choosing the most like terrible movies to be in, like, since she's been doing the bear. A couple movies I've seen her in, not great. Um but the bear, she's so good on the bear. Yeah. Won an Emmy for that, and maybe she'll win a Tony. We'll see. Damn.

SPEAKER_03

Um Okay. Well, I'll go next. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

As opposed to You're like, that's what would happen naturally. Uh-huh. Um, okay. I'm getting tipsy. Mary, did you know that the government takes so much of your bonus?

SPEAKER_03

Oh, yes.

SPEAKER_01

No, I'm gonna speak from a place of privilege for a moment. That like, yes, I have a nice, I have a job that gives me a bonus. And not many people have that. Like, not everyone has that. And oh my god, what's that? What's that quote? It's Mariah, hold on. This is how my brain works. It's Mariah Carey talking to Nicki Minaj at American Idol. She's like, well, back to that hot number one single you were singing, which is very difficult to get. Everybody has that to their credit. Ooh. Says that to Nicki Minaj. Incredible. Um she was ahead of she was ahead of the curve there. She knew something we didn't know. She knew something we just did not. Um but so when you get a bonus, I got a lovely bonus. I've been working very hard. It was well deserved on my part. I think my company acknowledged that in a very lovely way, my boss, etc. I'm not gonna disclose the amount, but when I tell you I received half of it. Like, I guess it was it's like four, like you said, it's like 45% because it was a little over half, but half of it was taken.

SPEAKER_03

And I just like don't understand what like what the reason, like what is the reason? What is the reason? Why do you need that? Because it's like why is it taxed differently than my regular salary? You know what I mean? Like if it's compensation, it's compensation. Like, why are you deciding that all of a sudden you need to get taxed?

SPEAKER_01

You're still paying the money. The only thing I can think of is I wonder if there's a way I wonder if in taxes that the company files, if there are I wonder if there's a way where bonuses are treated differently from the company's perspective and paying them out. Where maybe the company doesn't have to pay tax on it? Yes. I I wonder. Only because like why like why do companies want to do them then? Right. Because I feel like otherwise they would just like pivot to salaries.

SPEAKER_03

Right. Right.

SPEAKER_01

But places love a bonus.

SPEAKER_03

It honestly that would make sense because why else are they doing it? If we if we as the employee have to foot the bill.

SPEAKER_01

It's crazy.

SPEAKER_03

It is crazy.

SPEAKER_01

And now I'm I'm I'm in a place where I get like a nice chunk. But I remember when I first ever got a bonus, I was so excited. And I was like, what do you mean that's$700? Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Like we're like where you see it and you're like, what? Like, it's it's very sad.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. So I've only gotten of so my previous job at Ingramicro, we had bonuses, but when I was on tour, we would get like overages at the end of the contract. Were those tax like bonuses? Yes. Oh no. So like what we thought would be like a nice uh check was always like the rule of thumb was assume it's gonna be half. That's hateful. I know. So like we would get updates throughout the the contract, like once we recouped the investment, then our overages start like accruing, basically, which was like 0.001% of the box office or whatever. So like we would always ask for updates throughout the contract. Like it only happened really in Cinderella. Um, and I think rent.

SPEAKER_01

You said you you've said before that you got it in rent too.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think mine for rent was much bigger because the like it didn't take long to recoup.

SPEAKER_01

Fame fame didn't hit it? No, no, okay.

SPEAKER_03

But yeah, so Cinderella, it also like we were set up for failure anyways, because my when I joined the tour, um they invested all this new money into like revamping the girls' gowns.

SPEAKER_01

And so then that you start you you go back down. We were in the hole, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. So like the tour was already running when I joined, but I joined with it was like the year two of the tour. Um and so they put all this money into like revamping the gowns, and every girl's ball dress costs between like$20,000 and$30,000 just for the dress.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, you're not making that up in Bakoima.

SPEAKER_03

No, no, no, no. So, like in like I don't know, so it took forever for us to actually like recoup, and then we only had like maybe like five months left on the contract to earn overages, and so by the time we like finished the contract, I think our bonus was something like maybe six thousand dollars. And we only got three thousand of it, but rent was probably better. That was probably rent was bigger. Um, I think I can't honestly can't remember. Probably smaller cast, too, by a little bit, smaller cast and just lower production costs.

SPEAKER_01

You don't have to redo a ball gown.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, the costumes were not expensive.

SPEAKER_01

We need a we need a new pair of patchwork jeans, right?

SPEAKER_03

Literally, you know what I mean? So um, but yeah, so my bonuses when I got to Ingram were the same. We had quarterly bonuses, and whatever I saw, whatever I saw on the pay. I mean, they were small though. It was like$2,000, you know what I mean. What I would like bring home. Yeah, that's fair. Um, but whatever I saw on like the pace of chop it in half. Assume it's half. Shop it in half. Assume it's half.

SPEAKER_01

And it's it's just it's fucked. It really makes me mad. Well, half of mine's gonna be going to your bachelor party. So anyway, we're gonna um but yeah, I think that's it for now.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. So I mean, so long story long.

SPEAKER_01

Roofs are expensive. Roofs are expensive, and the government is the government is theft. And I think that that covers everything that we talked about today. So until then. Until next time. Enjoy.

SPEAKER_03

I hope everyone enjoyed their St. Patrick's Day. Mama, I'm drunk. Listen. Okay, well bye, I think.