Mary, Did You Know?

Am I The Drama?

Michael Wachowiak & Sean Ryan Season 1 Episode 10

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Mary, Did You Know this is our 10th episode?!

We kick off with a celebration that we have new microphones, and then get into our week. Sean shares an update on his furniture flipping, and we talk about Michael's rehearsals and the honeymoon that Sean just planned.

We then get into the buzzy new movie - The Drama starring Zendaya and Robert Pattinson. We begin with a spoiler free discussion, before pivoting into a spoiler filled breakdown of the movie and the major reveal that has been hidden from all the marketing. After the spoiler warning, you can skip to 47:00 to finish the episode while remaining unspoiled!

We wrap up the episode with our TITULAR Mary, Did You Know segment.

Follow the pod on Instagram and TikTok on @marydidyouknowpod and you can follow Michael on Instagram at @mikewachowiak and @michaelwachowiak on Tiktok, and Sean on Instagram & @seanzyryan and on TikTok at @seanzy_ryan.

SPEAKER_01

Mary, did you know?

SPEAKER_02

Hello and welcome to Mary Did You Know the podcast. Now with new and improved microphones. Yes, we won't be having any issues, hopefully. And that's really great for all of you. We're also great for me, so Sean won't look like he wants to strangle me as we're across from each other during this experience.

SPEAKER_00

No, you know, we we love what we do here at Mary Did You Know.

SPEAKER_02

Here at the uh Oh I was gonna come up with a fun word. Like I was trying to say like she factory. That doesn't that doesn't work. The Shactory. The Shactory. No, we're gonna we're we're still we're still workshopping that one.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. Maybe next week we'll have a correct.

SPEAKER_02

That is a strong beverage, my friend. It sure is. You know what? Wake it up. Cheers to it. Wake it up, wake it up, cheers to that. So how ooh, how was how was your week?

SPEAKER_00

My week was actually very um not restful, that's the wrong word, but it was slower than previous weeks just because um it's spring break for you know school, so we didn't have any like programs for my job. Um so it was a great week to just like catch up on all my all my shit. Um so I've just had a lot of time to, you know, do what I need to do. And sometimes that's the best thing.

SPEAKER_02

I love that for you. We we we just had a bit of this conversation um a moment ago about this where we were saying, like, uh my job, I used to have to work a lot. Have to is a little well with salary jobs, it's always a little, it's always a little interesting. Have to and like need to are different. Like there was work I had to do, and I just didn't get it done in my allotted time, so I had to do it later at night. Correct. Which is what like salary happens with salaried roles. Um but I haven't had to, and that's been so lovely. Like I just like I've gone home, especially since I've been in rehearsal, I was concerned that I was going to because the last time I rehearsed, I had my old job, my old position.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

Where I was still busy, but it was not the same. And so I was a little bit nervous about that. But this has been this has been so easy. I come back home from rehearsal and just like watch TV or like un unwind or something, and that's been yeah, like truly so much you brought this up, so I just want to like touch on it a little bit.

SPEAKER_00

But like truly being salaried is a world of difference than being hourly because when I worked at Ingram Micro, I was hourly, and like I I feel like before then all my previous jobs. I mean, in like the corporate world, I was always hourly. Now that I'm salaried at my job at UB, like I don't like punch in, punch out. I I do no time tracking whatsoever, except at the once a month I submit my timesheet and say, Oh, I took this day off, I took that day off, you know, I took a half.

SPEAKER_02

It's more allocating your inside of your 40 hours that they they have you scheduled for if you were sick, PTO, et cetera.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, yeah. And I feel like it's such a luxury that like I could never go back to punching in and out.

SPEAKER_02

It's it's also like I like the concept, and not all salary jobs are like this. I think both of ours have have this luxury of like, I don't even with a lot of count, like I have a lot on my calendar, but like no one's ever like, where are you? Like it's it's it's rare that and the people who would say that to me, I could tell them I had to go get coffee. Like I had to go with everyone, they wouldn't, they wouldn't be pissed at me. And I think that's not everyone has that. Some salary jobs are like they want you, they expect you, they're watching you, but that is a gift that when you sort of um can find a job to get you out of the hourly shit.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and like I I know I'm very privileged with my my job and how I spend my time and all of that good stuff, but like you're so right. No one is checking on me like during the day to say, like, are you working?

SPEAKER_02

Correct, yeah, yeah. Because again, that and that's like because like I'm a manager, and that's how I like to operate as well. I don't care when you do it. As long as it gets done. Outside of calls you have to have with team members during the day or clients, like I don't care when you do your job. Like I had a whole conversation, like I or like I have talked a lot with people about like prioritization. It's like you just need to figure out like when you need to get your stuff done, when you need to get it done. It doesn't matter to me when you get it done.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Um one of the best parts about being a manager. I'm not so manager is in my title, but I'm not like a a people manager.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, there's a difference between yeah, like you you are a man a manager of a of a task and like assignment and not a manager of humans.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. Which I don't know if I could do, but some of the best managers that I've had are truly not like micro managers, and you know, they understand that if if you're a morning person and you're most productive in the morning, great. If you're most productive in the afternoon, like they're not gonna be up my ass in the morning, you know. So like things like that, that's it's of it's it's a skill to be a manager.

SPEAKER_02

My boss has said before, like someone try to schedule a meeting for like it's like 8 30, and she was like, She was like, Michael will be on that. You won't be getting his best self, but you're like, he'll he'll join the meeting. And I was like, Yes, she knows, because it's just not, it's not uh yeah, but I think you could manage people. It's you'd have a similar thing of uh of what I have, which is like you it's hard because you for sure, especially when you come from a role where you were maybe doing the role that they were doing, you've got a unique perspective, and so you understand the challenges, but then you have other things that now you have to sort of track and respond to. And so it it it it makes me think sometimes of like stuff that maybe I wasn't doing correctly. Like now that I'm supposed to be tracking some of it, I'm like, oh wow, or I wish somebody would have explained it to me like this. Yes, that's the sort of stuff that I'm like, oh, it's someone explained it to me like this, maybe I could have succeeded.

SPEAKER_00

But see, that also kind of feeds into like why I think you're such a good director because it's the same thing, you know what I mean? You know, like being an actor who becomes a director, it's like I know how this needs to be explained for performers to understand what I'm trying to get out of them. Yeah, and that's why you're successful at what you do.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I feel like a lot of great directors have have been actors. It's also the difference between like we've been doing that a lot with this in rehearsal this week, like as of tonight, we'll have staged the entire play in like five rehearsals, which is crazy. Wow. But um I it's so hard. Hmm. I don't no one wants a line reading, and I don't want to give a line reading. But when it what's always the challenge for the director, and sometimes directors don't do this, but like, is like there's a certain point where you gotta get the line reading. We're like about to open and you're not saying the line right. Yeah. But and I don't mind when people do that to me at that point. Same. I I always I always get it, correct? Please explain it to you. I always joke when I when um when I've done shows directed by Doug Wyand, he gives you like three tries. It's like you find it, you do it again, and the third the third time he's like, so you're fully missing the joke, and here it is. And I think that's good. You need to let someone explore, and if they're not getting it, then you need to step in. Yeah. But um I'm finding my mouth starts to open and I start to say something, and I go, You can't say that in my head. And so then it forces me to sort of be like uh to explain to them how like the energy I want out of the line without saying it, and it's yes, it's it's fun, but it also is hard because because when you are an actor, it's a part of you that wants to say it, say it like this, but you can't do that, and so that's a challenge. I find that still particularly in a play. I've not done a play in a minute, and a play, a musical, there's like there's just less to do. There's less to like talk about. Yeah, and like there I was saying that the other day, but we were talking about memorization, and I was like, memorizing musicals is easy. You rarely like there's examples like when you did tick tick boom where it's a small cash show and there's a long speech, but even then you had what, like maybe two or three of those long speeches, and other than that, it was just scene work with like a couple lines. Like most musicals don't have that many script because there's not it's a musical.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, we're just moving to the next song, and even yes, and the scenes are so short, correct, correct like they're so short. And since I have done one play now, an actor there we had scenes that were 20 minutes long of like one scene, you know what I mean? And that's it's so different than a musical.

SPEAKER_02

There's a there's a crazy scene that's in this play that we that we staged the other night, and we've been sort of like for the past two nights when we've had more time, I'm like, let's do that one more time. It's a charade scene, and it's very hard because there's separate conversations happening in the overlap. And I basically was like, you need to own you need to just memorize your lines as a monologue, and we will pace it. Because you can't be waiting on someone else because it they might not come. Can I have a hot take? Please.

SPEAKER_00

I fucking hate overlap.

SPEAKER_02

I know overlap is hard. Hate it, but I hate here that it's written like that. But here's the thing about overlap when it works, that's the thing. It's so hard, and as an actor, so incredibly challenging. But when you but when it when it's written and it hits, you're like, well, damn, there it is.

SPEAKER_00

There's a way to write it where it does make sense. Yeah, but it's I feel like most of the times I've either seen or been in shows that have overlap. It's like it's written in such a bad way, where as an audience member, I'm like, I'm missing something. Like I can't listen to both of you at once. Yeah. And I want to hear what both of you are saying.

SPEAKER_02

I also think it depends. Yes, I also think it's important on what is the overlap. Yes. Like in this one, it works because half the conversation is real and half of it isn't. Half of it is three three people arguing about um a relationship and the other two are just yelling out charades. And so it becomes that's why I was speaking about the other day of like we're gonna work on volume of like who needs to be the louder person. Because like smart because like your like you yelling cock four times is funny, but it's not more important than him yelling to the other person. Yes. Um because I I agree, and it's hard as a player, I'm not a playwright, but as a playwright, you're not gonna write in volume. I mean, you're gonna write like whispers or like, but you're not gonna write like this is the more important line. That's the job of the person reading the play to figure it out. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But um, that is uh yeah. Well, I can't wait to see how this turns out.

SPEAKER_02

I can't wait to see how this turns out, and you will on May 1st at the Shays Summit Theater. Um, but I want to hear about um your furniture flip, which LOL because you posted for the shareholders from last week, Sean shared that he's a furniture flipper now. And you posted that you began, and I sent you a text I go, so we never saw an update photo.

SPEAKER_00

So uh how's that going? Yeah. Um so it turns out it's actually a lot more work than I thought it would be. Uh-huh. Um, and also since this is my first time, I'm making some mistakes that I have to like correct. And, you know, it's a learning experience for this first time, but it is still underway. Um I am almost done. I just painted um earlier today. Okay. So it's drying right now. And this should hopefully be the last coat of paint, so it should be done. And then I just have to put on new hardware. I bought new hardware for the drawers. Um did we paint it? Was it like a wood finish or was it something else? So the top is top. Top. Um, the top I just stained. Um, I stained the top.

SPEAKER_02

If I we've all been there. We've all been there. Oh honey, the top is always getting stained. That's okay. Wait, that's so much funnier than painting than painting trades. Stain staining the top. Staining the top. You are you're on you're on to something there, D.Va. If I had a nickel, I'd have a couple nickels.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. Anyway, continue, please. Um, so I stained the top. Um, a light wash. I I can't have this conversation.

SPEAKER_02

You only lightly stained. I stained the top, and then there was a light wash just. There's a light wash.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, exactly. Um as it as it goes. Uh-huh. Um, so yes. So the the the top part of the I don't even know what it is. Is it a dresser? Is it a desk? What the fuck is it? I would describe that as so small. So I'm thinking of it as like an entryway table. Or like a buffet.

SPEAKER_02

It kind of gives it kind of gives like the drawer you give like your boyfriend when you decide you like them. Do you know what I mean? Like it's like it's like, oh, it's like you can put your stuff in there. Because it's not where I keep my clothes. Oh, yes, yes. Where you're like, oh, you need you need to have some like clothes to stay overnight. Right, right. To me, it feels like that's a thing for people who have multiple rooms. Yeah, this is gonna go to the water. It would be great in like your entryway doesn't have like it's nice. If it had a wall, it sort of just immediately goes up to the stairs. If your thing, like say those stairs pushed back like to the edge of that wall, you could it could be somewhere in there. Yeah, like it could be in an entryway where you put like your keys on top of it, whatever. Maybe, maybe, maybe inside you keep like gloves and hats. Like there's a I could see, I could see a vision there.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Um, I'm gonna try to sell it. So whoever it goes to will figure it out. They will figure it out. But yes, long story long, I am almost done with um refinishing this piece of furniture, and I've learned a lot, and I'm excited for the next one. I love, I love that. And what and we'll see what top he stains next.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, yes. Okay, well, speaking of stained tops, you and your fiance, um, you and your fiance have planned your honeymoon. Yes, we did.

SPEAKER_00

We also finished that, so it has been a busy week. Correct.

SPEAKER_02

Well, that's the thing, but that's the nice thing about a busy you were at a busy, non-stressed week.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, and that's the other thing. Because then when we recap it, you're like, wow, a lot happened, but it was a lot happened, and it was all things that I wanted to do. Correct. And I chose big difference, huge. Um, but yeah, so we officially planned and booked everything for our honeymoon. Um and by booked, I mean all planned and booked all of like the flights and the hotels and all the transportation and the staying, all the logistics are done. Correct. Um so we are spending a few days in Iceland, and then we're spending probably four or five days in London, and then we're spending about eight days in Ireland, going to four different cities in Ireland. Um, but I was just talking to Josh about this today. I think we're gonna go see Paddington.

SPEAKER_01

Wait, no, it's apparently amazing. Yeah, that's what I think.

SPEAKER_02

Also, do you want I know you've seen the production, but did you see what was announced today? Which is gonna be sh- I think you should check the dates. I think she's doing it when you're when you're there. They just announced because that production of Cabaret is still running and Joy Woods is going to play. Oh, I did see that. I did see that. You might not have time for two things, and I think you've already seen that production, so you should see Paddington. The Paddington looks incredible.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. It looks it's either that or Devil Wars Prada, the musical. Okay, I've heard that that's ass. I've heard it's like hot ass. I know, but not like I kind of want to see it.

SPEAKER_02

Not like hot ass fun, like hot ass bath. Yeah, if Vanessa Williams is still in it's it. Yeah. But all I've seen from the show is the dress your way. That's the only thing I've seen, which is typical Jerry Mitchell choreography where it's only arms. They're just gonna. Unfortunately, I probably would love it. I would gag for it. Well, that's the you know, sometimes it's fine for things to be bad and for us to love it. Like, yes, like yes, especially when it's um like a movie you love, yeah, and you're like, I want to hear it, I want to see some new tunes. I would say, I mean, yeah, I think they're both probably gonna come here. I think seeing Paddington in London feels so I feels so right. That's what Josh said. So I think we're gonna look into seeing and I think all the like original folks who are like the Olivier's, I think, are this weekend, so they'll be performing and stuff on there. So um, I was looking at tickets.

SPEAKER_00

It's actually like quite hard to get tickets for Paddington. Oh, yeah. Even in like September. I bet, yeah. It's like the availability is so low.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, tickets are cheaper though.

SPEAKER_00

They are, but like the only ones available, unless like we want to sit like orchestra level, it's like 200 pounds. Oh, and and that's like 300 for you find out the hard way about about pounds, yeah. Yeah, um, but they have like the last row of like the third balcony for like 50 pounds, and I'm like, okay, sure. I mean, maybe. Um, so we'll we'll figure it out. But yeah, so I think we're gonna see Paddington.

SPEAKER_02

That starts to become the game of like what's more worth like is it like like maybe you go to a night you spend less on those tickets, have showed you receipts, but go to a really nice dinner beforehand. Like you know, where can where can you control the money spend? Because that is what'll does it do you know what theater it's in out of curiosity? If you don't know, I don't remember. Um that's the other thing about London, which you'll find is it's not like Broadway, where the theaters are centrally located. A lot of them are in one area, okay, but because it's like you know, it's like Boston, it's all like turny, windy roads. So the theaters are just where they were when they built them. Yeah. So that's the only thing that's a little weird is like it's not always like where we saw a cabaret is like a place I had not been. Like it was like a tube line. I was like, where am I what am I getting on? You'll love the tube. It's I think it's well, you've lived in New York. I think it makes so much more sense than New York City subway. Love. Because they all have names.

SPEAKER_00

It's not like I'm taking the one, I'm taking the two. Well, see, that makes sense. When I mean, I know I lived in New York, so I might be biased, but that made so much sense to me. Like the red line, the blue line, like one, two, three. You know, I knew when they were on the same track, when they split off. Yeah. And that just made sense to me. These are like it's the Piccadilly line. I've heard that a million times, and I cannot wait to ride the Piccadilly line.

SPEAKER_02

A story that I have, and I hope it's the same, is like one time I felt one time I fell asleep on the subway. I yes, yeah, I've heard this too. And I thought whenever you would get on, they would be like, this is a Piccadilly line service to cock fosters, and they would just keep saying cock fosters, cockfosters, and I fell asleep, and I woke a nice woman woke me up and she was like, We're at King's Cross. Like I was fucking Harry Potter. And um, I just always think about the fact that like, would I have woken up in cock fosters? I hope you're you know what? And you know what? Sounds like a lovely day. We're staying, we're staying in tops. Um oh, but I love you're gonna see. I love yeah, I I love that. I'll give you some some some t tea on some of the London stuff too. But that'll be that'll be really fun. Oh, and I will be finding the black dog. Well, the black dog. You know what? Uh-huh. Absolutely. Yeah, that came out on my Swifty shareholders. Correct. That came out right uh, oh no, like no, I had been like two years. No, because when I went in 2023 to London. So it was like a year later when that came out, and I was like, Are you fucking kidding me? Oh yeah, I will be finding it. You will be you will be fine. I actually think I looked up where it is. It's in like you you won't have to go too out of your way. It's in like a place that you would go. Perfect. Like it's near where some bars are. And even if it wasn't, I'm still going. You'll also love when you're over there because like there's like two different things. So it's like going out out, like when you go to like the clubs and stuff, but then there's like five o'clock, everyone's just like at the pubs, like having like having beer. Love it. Like it's just it's a very different, like their bars close earlier because people go right after work. Okay. So it's like like not earlier, but they're not open here. That's not how it works there. Gotcha, gotcha. Um my god, you're gonna have so much fun. And then you're going to Iceland and Ireland, too, right? Yes, yes, yes, yes. And you use a travel agent helper person, right?

SPEAKER_00

Yes, we did, which made our lives so much easier because like I I don't know what I'm doing. I've never been to any of these places, so that's why I also was like, I don't know where the best places to stay are, the best areas. Like, should we rent a car, should we not? And like just having a travel agent. In London, you don't need a car, right? And yeah, we didn't get one for London, but um just having someone who also will plan it.

SPEAKER_02

It's we used one for the honeymoon, and it was which is exactly what you did, and it was a a gift. It was so easy, and it's also like not like we aren't like paying extra for it's like typically the way it works is that they've got relationships, and so they get some sort of like kickback from you utilizing certain vendors and services, but like and the the best part, which I'm sure is what you experience as well, is it's not like I'm not concerned about booking a hotel or my flight, it's they were booking us because when we were in Greece, like they were booking us like the ferry that goes to meekin's like that sort of level of minutiae of or like cars, cars to pick us up from the pla from the hotel to the like all of that stuff is is what you want someone to do because that's not fun to do, right? And you don't want to then all we had was like a PDF. Yeah that had all of our confirmation numbers, so that's all I had to have, as opposed to like guy, look at what emails I've got flagged, and like that's just that's not what you want to worry about. You want to just like be ready and go. Yes, and then if there was a problem, we contacted the travel agent.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and that is cunti. Yep, yep, yep. Yeah, no, so I'm super excited. Um, we I made a budget spread spreadsheet. So um we're surprisingly on track. Good, good. Um, so we still have like a good amount of money to spend while we're there. Good, good. Um, all the hotels are breakfast included, so that's gonna be.

SPEAKER_02

And you've also, well, not to get like too real, but you've your wedding budget. Like, have you is most of that, have you been able to cover most of that in terms of like what you've been saving and all that stuff?

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

To the point where the money that you get from your wedding, the benefit for you is like, which is not what happened to me. Um, that will be either just money for you to have as a couple, but you can use some of that too. Yes. Like you'll be able to take some of that money immediately to use on the honeymoon, which will m allow you to spend a little bit more on some stuff and to have a little bit more fun.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, everything for our wedding, like we are not taking out any like loans, or we're not we're also not putting anything on our credit card for the wedding. Like we saved up and we're paying everything. Yeah. So we're not having a balance to pay off, which is nice.

SPEAKER_02

I have no issue sharing this now at this point because I've I've actually I officially um there's still one stupid like one $2,000 thing I have to pay off from a card thing. But for people who for the shareholders who don't know, a couple years ago I did a bit big debt consolidation thing about some credit cards that got a little out of hand, and the big one just got paid off. And we love that. It used to be this platinum Delta Amex I had. The step down from the one that you have. Okay. And I oh no, I guess it was two steps. No, it was platinum, so yeah, yeah. And I knew when we went on the honeymoon that I was gonna that I was going to be doing this. I already had like made a decision of like I am in a place I cannot get out of unless I take some real action and change some spending habits. Yes. But that was also on my honeymoon. So I walk up to this like four, five-star resort there where there's like a white lotus thing, and they're like, what card you put on file? And I was like, this one. Uh-huh. Because I was like, fuck it. You slapped her down and said, Your days are numbered. I said, Your days are number Diva. We're going to rely on the Best Buy now. Um, LOL. But um, I laughed the other day. I had I paid off that Best Buy card again. For the this is this is becoming a really intimate conversation. There was so that okay, so I was gonna tell everyone, so they didn't have to, then I didn't have any credit cards, so which was good. And I actually like I'm so much better at spending now. I like learned, I like disciplined myself into these habits because it was like if you don't have a credit card, you can't spend the money. Correct. So I got better at saving, and then I got better at spending. Yes. But then eventually I was like, I need I need to use something, and I discovered that I still had this like Best Buy store card, but it also was like a visa, so it worked. It had like a $3,000 limit, and that was all I needed, like because it would help for like, oh, I need to pay for this flight or something. Like, yes, but she got she got us through because there were a couple times at the bar where it like they wouldn't take my MT card for whatever reason, and I was like, throw her, throw her down, like and she that's a diva who's been through it. Yeah, but I she fell through the cracks, but when we needed her most, when we needed her, she was there for us, and the other day I I had paid it off. Um, and I uh because it was a little bit left on there, and I other day I got an email. It was like your payments due. And I was like, What the fuck is my payment? What do you mean my payments do? Yeah, it was connected to my Uber account because I I don't take a lot of Ubers, but it must have been a time where I had no money. Yeah, and I was like, I need to I need to get home. Yeah, so I was like, Oh, I took I took an Uber like two weeks ago. I was like, oh, that's why there's a charge. I was like, why is there like a $30 charge on this thing? It's because uh I was drunk and had to get home. Listen, the Best Buy, she's there when the Best Buy Diva, uh terrible APR, do not get that card. I have one. Well, the reason actually I should say that the reason I got it is if you make Best Buy purchases, yes, you can get no interest financing, and that is worth it. And that's what I use it for. And that's that it's when I got my um my iPad. Okay, I got an iPad Pro a couple of years ago, and that's what that's what I used it for. All our TVs with the Best Buy. No, I I actually I like Best Buy. I know like we often buy that shit on Amazon, but like I like a store like Best Buy where, like, for instance, I got these cords on Amazon because they came in on time, but like I was looking up yesterday. If the mics didn't come in, I go, I could go to Best Buy. Like, they have that stuff, they have more technical and entertainment type stuff that you need. Um, but and that credit card, she got me through. Listen, and I got I earned some rewards on her.

SPEAKER_00

I love that.

SPEAKER_02

We had some drink to that, and you know what? Let's drink to that, and we will be right back.

SPEAKER_03

And we're back.

SPEAKER_02

Um, I realize this is our 10th episode. So our 10th episode. So shout out to the shareholders listening and those complaining that we keep uh we keep recording them and they can't catch up. Cat. You can listen to any time. Mikey was just sending me texts, he was driving a long drive and was like, he like referenced something. I go, you're gonna need to give me more information. I have no idea what I said. But I was like, you can listen to any time, Diva. Yeah, our our our opinions are eternal.

SPEAKER_00

They are eternal. Chime in whenever you want. So now we're gonna talk about a movie that we recently saw called The Drama.

SPEAKER_02

The Drama starring Zenday and Robert Pattinson. Yes. Um it was so good. Yeah, it was so for anyone who we're so we're gonna have a we're gonna have a spoiler-free conversation for a little bit.

SPEAKER_03

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

And then we will have a spoiler conversation. We will put a little warning and a little time jump for you so that you don't hear the spoilers. But yeah, for those of you who have seen it, I feel like it's important. I feel like we can only talk about the movie so much before getting into the spoiler. Yes. So it's it's a movie. I don't remember the guy who directed its name, but apparently he's maybe problematic, so we don't need to say his name. Um, it is uh about a couple that's getting married, um, Zendaya and Robert Pattinson, and uh it's like the week of their wedding, it seems. Yes. And uh there is a tasting dinner they're having, very late, mind you. They kind of make reference to that. They're like, Oh, you've made up your mind, but I was like, this is a setup because no one's tasting their menu this close to the a week before the wedding. But it's there with Alan Alana Haim and I don't know the other actor's name who plays like their best friends. Um, and they the that couple mentions that before they got married, they shared what the worst thing they ever did was. Or and so that the everyone should do the same, and they share theirs, and then Zendaya and Robert Pattinson share theirs, and Zendaya's causes a stir and drama, and the rest of the movie. That's the maybe the first like 20 minutes, and the rest of the movie sort of devolves from there.

SPEAKER_00

Right, right. Um so spoiler-free conversation. I'm trying to keep that in mind as we move forward. Um, I thought the movie was like just so beautifully shot. Oh, yeah, it's gorgeous. Um, also, Robert Pattinson is so hot.

SPEAKER_02

He's like always been hot, but I feel like what's getting hotter about him, did you watch Mickey 17 as well? No. So you should watch. It's on HBO, it's called Mickey 17. Uh, it's Bong Jun Ho who made Parasite and Snowpiercer.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

It's um he plays this guy who like agrees to basically be like a clone that dies over and over again for like experiments, but he's really hot in it, and uh he's kind of goofy. The reason I say it is that he's goofy. Yes. And that's kind of what I feel like he's tapping into here is this like hot goofball energy that he's very good at.

SPEAKER_00

And he's also like aging so well. Very well. He's not like he doesn't look super young. No, you know what I mean? But he doesn't look old in a bad way, correct? He looks old in a mature, like sexy way. Correct. And good for him. Yeah, he looks great. How old is he? Do you know?

SPEAKER_02

Oh, that's a you know what we can find out in real time. Yeah. Um, I don't I would say like sad thing is he's not gonna be much older than well, me.

SPEAKER_00

Um Robert Pattinson. If I had to guess, I would say like 38.

SPEAKER_02

He's like Josh's age. Robert Pattinson. Oh no, he's like he's he he's uh he's oh no, he's 1986. Okay, so he's like 40. Yeah, but he like just turned 40.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

He looks great. Yeah, like even this IMDB photo, that's not what he looks like now. No, he looks more attractive now than he's. This is like his like Twilight era.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, which we love. But but yeah, so he he was fantastic. Everyone was fantastic. The movie was so good.

SPEAKER_02

It's also, I think that's what I was shocked by. I so I was spoiled accidentally from a tweet like two months ago. So I knew I knew kind of what her secret was.

SPEAKER_00

I did not know the extent of it. Did they so what I have so I went in like completely blind. I had never seen the trailer, I knew nothing about the movie. What does the trailer? So the trailer's the trailer's great.

SPEAKER_02

The for the only trailer I watched, they're probably you know how there's usually like one trailer and when there's a second trailer? Yeah, the only one I saw, which was fucking brilliant, was just the scene of the photographer taking pictures of them. The trailer was just like her being like, let's do some practice shots and just the uncomfortability.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, it's so good. But that was the such a good trailer.

SPEAKER_02

That was the entire trailer. Yeah, and it was like, oh, this is brilliant. Because you have to figure out you would correct you need to know why they're feeling that way. And so that that's all I saw, which is why I was in them and I found out what the you know the thing was. Yeah. Um, but what I didn't expect was how it's edited and like the flash and like the flashes or the cuts to like the younger her. Yeah, all of that was fascinating to me. It had so much style. I think that's what I was not ready for. I thought it was just going to be sort of a, I don't know, a like, a like, ooh, what's the bad thing? And then that was gonna be the shock value of it. Was gonna end. I did not expect the end of that movie, it's just a farce. Yeah, the whole wedding sequence just becomes like a full-blown comedy, a dark, dark comedy. I mean, the whole movie is kind of like a a dark comedy. I don't know what so you went with a bunch of our friends. Yes. I had rehearsal, and so I the next day was at dinner. Um uh and we I was leaving dinner, and I uh everybody was like, you know, it was like a dinner where like we went at five, so by the time it was like eight, everyone was like, I'm going home. And so I was driving past the regal and I said, I want to see the drama. I want to be informed because also I was like avoiding spoilers, and I was like, if there's a show, I'm gonna go. It was 8.15, show at 825. I pulled right in. I had I had an edible in my car, incredible. Popped her, incredible, a big thing of popcorn, and it was like date night, so I was there by myself and everybody else was not. So that was also funny. I was like, but seeing it with a full theater was I don't know if yours was the same. It was full. We were packed. The like the gasps, the laughs, the like, uh uh. Like I was laughing at the people reacting.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

And it it basically made its money back. It's uh, I believe it cost 24,000 or 24 million to make. Okay, and I think worldwide opening weekend it made like 28, which means it'll that's like weird. They only get like half of that because the theaters take half. But what that means is that ultimately it's gonna be a profitable movie, yeah, because they're saying it probably based on that will make a hundred million dollars like over the course of the next few weeks, like it'll track, which is amazing and also good for Zendaya. I mean, she's really doing it, and Robert Pattinson too, but she's really doing it the correct way with like she's in Dune and she's in Spider-Man, but then challengers, this like she's she's doing more original, exciting material.

SPEAKER_00

Greatest showman. Well, listen, let's not forget why don't we rewrite the stars? Show them the world can be ours tonight. Listen, my favorite part of The Greatest Showman, hands down, is like I think it's at the very end when they're doing the the reprise of this is the greatest show. And she does that like shoulder choreography. Uh-huh. Oh my god, I get my fucking light. She is every single time.

SPEAKER_02

Listen, we're gonna put this song on replay. Listen, we need the Zendega music career back. Yeah. Um, I like the greatest show. I mean, I remember when Matt and I saw it. Well, actually, I should say this terrible movie, amazing soundtrack. Yeah, like not a great movie, but the music is. I still love the movie. The music is so fucking good. It's so good. And I love rewrite the stars. They sound great. Yeah. They I am I'm a little concerned that she was gonna like die while she's flying. It's also not her, but yeah, um, yeah. Yeah, she does do that little bit.

SPEAKER_00

Speaking of West End, there that musical is a limited run.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, it's gonna come over here.

SPEAKER_00

It's open right now.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's gonna, it's gonna come over here.

SPEAKER_00

I know, and I was so pissed because I was looking, I was like, I saw that that was a show on the West End right now, and I was like, oh my god, I fucking want to see that because I love the movie. Um, no, limited run. It's ending in uh May.

SPEAKER_02

I wonder if it's because they want to bring it over in the fall.

SPEAKER_00

I think it is supposed to either transfer to Broadway or open up on the West East, but they haven't they haven't announced it yet.

SPEAKER_02

There's gonna be a lot of open houses on Broadway in the fall. Don't worry. I don't think I don't think Beaches is gonna is gonna make it all the way through. Although we'll say, shout out to Dudney, who is in Cats Angelical Ball, which is the best reviewed show of the season. Love it. All the reviews were incredible. Are they gonna be eligible for uh Tony's uh-huh? Damn. It's like I think it's gonna beat ragtime. I think like the reviews were like, because ragtime is I I saw ragtime, it's incredible. I haven't seen this version of Cats, I saw it off Broadway. Yeah um, but ragtime is a perfect example of like you did the show really well. This is like you tore the show open and made it a whole beautiful thing. Yes, and that's what a revival is. A revival is bringing life into something. And this, I can't speak. I I'm so excited to see it. It's it's if it's even a video that I've seen, I'm just like obsessed. If it's even a fraction, did you see the New York Times one that he's in? I'll show I'll show I'll show it to you after. It's like in the New York Times offices, it's a Mungo Jerry and Rumpel teaser like going through people's like stuff, uh, but it opens with him being like tens of crazy. It's like he dundee pops up, and I'm like, what? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um I saw the video of like I think it's the bows. Oh, yeah. Where everyone Well, he narrates the entire bows.

SPEAKER_02

The entire thing. Well, if you look, and I can I can say this because it's in the program now. If you look at the bottom of the program, they've hidden it a little bit, but if you look at the bottom of the front page of the playbill, or the like, you know, like the credits page, yeah, go all the way to the bottom, it says, like, you know, Cats was originally produced at the pack, it's like it's like PAC Center for Performing Arts under the direction of blah blah blah blah additional MC dialogue by Dudney Joseph Jr.

SPEAKER_00

That's insane.

SPEAKER_02

And mama, that's called Memorialize. Okay, getting back to the getting back to the point of this, which was the drama. Which was the drama. Although ironically, Kristen went to the opening night of um cats, and the next day they went to go see the drama. Oh, right. Um, because it because you gotta see it, everyone's talking about it. Yes, yeah. Um, okay, let's take a pause here, and we will I will put a little warning in here, and I will give you a timestamp of when you can come back to hear after the spoilers. Well, basically, we're gonna go through the end and you'll come back for Mary Did You Know, and you can come back and listen to this after you've seen the drama. So here we go. Hi, Michael here. If you'd like to skip our spoiler-filled conversation of the drama, you can skip to the 47-minute mark and finish the episode with our titular Mary Did You Know segment. Thank you. Okay, so this is fucking crazy.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so hopefully, if you're listening to this, you've either seen the movie or you don't care. Yeah. Um, because we get we have to talk about this movie.

SPEAKER_02

So they share their secrets. I do feel it's important to first talk about Alana Haim's secret. What's her name character? Rachel. Yes. She's I also say she's you hate her character, but she's so good in this movie because like she plays it so well.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, I just think the character itself is so like she had no redeemable qualities. So that's why I'm like But I but I kind of love it though, because she feels morally superior.

SPEAKER_02

So like she's playing moral superiority, but she's well, this is I she's not worse, she's just no, but so her secret is that there was a handicapped child in her neighborhood that she like tricked into going to a like in somewhere in the woods and like locked them into a c into like a closet door and ran away. And then when the cops and parents asked where he was, didn't say anything.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And I've seen people online saying they think it's you know, there's so much room to speculate. What if she's lying? What if they never found him?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Like we don't know if it we don't know that part, right? And so I we're hiding the the lead here, which is that Zendaya's secret is that she planned a school shooting.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, and like was very close to following through.

SPEAKER_02

Closer than I was expecting, and that's why I was still gagged. What I had heard in the rumor was that she wanted to shoot up her school, was all I knew.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, but I didn't realize how deep like planned it, had a weapon, brought the gun to school, and her character is half is half deaf.

SPEAKER_02

She's deaf in one ear, and you find out it's because she was practicing shooting and like she padded too close to her ear and she basically blew out her eardrum. Yeah. Um, which is a great the way they weave that in is very good. Yeah. Um I well, I guess I'm interested what you thought because I knew. So I it was not a shock to me. What was like you in the theater, like what what was that feeling?

SPEAKER_00

I was definitely gagged, but I think because I was experiencing it in real time, I had no idea that was gonna be like the arc of the movie. So I just thought everyone was like talking about like the worst thing that they've done. And also because not realizing that that was about to be the rest of the plot. Yes, maybe we'll move on to something else. Because Rachel went first, and I was like, that's terrible. And then Zendaya says that you know, I planned a school shooting, but I didn't do it. Um, and of course that's also bad, but I don't know. I just like I was like, well, why are we letting Rachel go? And then like seeing how Rachel acted the rest of the movie, I'm like, bitch, you are an awful person. That's what I mean.

SPEAKER_02

The movie does a good job at is like no one's and like I've been actually pleasantly surprised at the lack of online discourse. I thought there'd be more. I think the movie does a good job of just posturing, like it's less about what she was going to do, it's more about how do we how do we respond to people like that? Yeah. A care are someone who felt who felt so pressured that that was the only way out. Ultimately, something happened in their life where that luckily wasn't what they did, and what do we do with that?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Why do we address the underlying issues that cause them to feel that way? Or do we treat them as do we like other them like they want, like many of the characters do, and just decide that they're irredeemable?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Because they're also again, it's I'm not saying that what she wanted to do was good, but there's a difference between doing it and not.

SPEAKER_00

Correct.

SPEAKER_02

And I like the I like the point where they're like, you would there are millions, or not millions, but like there are hundreds of people a day in this country that might think of the same thing and don't do it. Correct. And they do all the shots, just the people walking. Yeah. And it always goes to that thing of like, you don't know what someone's going through. Correct. Um, and I thought that was fascinating.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and I thought it was super interesting how the rest of the movie is basically like Robert Pattinson's character because he is supposed to marry her in the next few days, and his spiral to deal with it to be like is just him dealing with it. And it's so interesting that he is the one who I feel like I don't know, it it's he's struggling with it.

SPEAKER_02

He is really the latter, especially that last third, like he is the the protagonist character that's like because we we we follow, particularly when it gets to the scene in the office. Yeah, we're really following his what he's going through.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. But all of like the the I guess not the flashbacks, but like the um the like the imaginative shots where it's like what if all the what ifs are from his perspective. Yep. And it's just so interesting that I feel like Zendaya's character, she's obviously come to terms with it and said, Yes, this is something that happened in my past. And she's kind of like ironically, she became an anti-gun advocate. Yeah. A bunch of other stuff. Yes. Yeah. And so like she has already processed it and dealt with it. Correct. Although she hasn't processed it in the way that she is able to talk about it. Correct. She's she's I would say she's made peace with it. I don't think she's processed it. Yes, I agree with that.

SPEAKER_02

I also I love so number one, the shot of the bloody wedding was a gag. That was Yes, because I assumed that's how it was gonna end. And then also, I can't think of the last time I have like, I'm not gonna do it on for the sake of the mic, gaffawed and screamed till when she's has her gun and she's like, I'm gonna kill you tomorrow, and the computer goes, update required.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, oh my god, we were losing our shooting.

SPEAKER_02

Update required in the middle of your um of your school shooting manifesto. Again, it's so dark, but it made me let's do it. Because again, it was just it it was it was just commenting on so much, and also I feel like Robert Pattinson's character being British is important. Um, number one, his accent is just but I like that I think one of the characters says to him, like, or I think he says, I think to his coworker, yes, he's like, but doesn't this happen all the time here? Yeah, and it's speaking to a desensitized nature that American children might have from school shootings, particularly of Zendaya's generation, um, which is not ours. Um, I feel like, well, maybe yours a little. Oh, no. No, you're a millennial. She's like, well, no, I think she's 30 now. So actually she is kind of with us. She's like a she's she's a younger millennial.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Um but of that generation. Yeah. And it it is, it I feel like that again, all of these things just go to the I did not think this movie was gonna be that deep.

SPEAKER_00

Is what I mean. I did not expect any of this. It comments on so many things, but it does it in such like a good way, and it's it is funny. Like it's funny, but it's also just so sad. And like, there's so it's just so well done. And like so well done.

SPEAKER_02

Zen Zendega is um, I love her. I feel like sometimes this was a fun character to get to watch her do because like I a couple people complained about her and like challengers because she was great, but that character was so stoic. Yes. That sometimes it can seem like she's not doing much. This I felt allowed her to like her character in Dune is very similar. Yeah, and so sometimes that becomes your thing of like this and like euphoria show like she's got I mean, she's got chops, she can do whatever she wants. And she's again there's I listened to a movie podcast and they they do a ranking of like 35 stars under 35, and like she was number two. Damn. Timothy Chalamay was number one, which makes sense. But it's like that she just she just has it, yeah. She has it. You want to watch her. Yes. I mean, yes this year, she's in this season, the final season of Euphoria, the Odyssey, Spider-Man, and Damn. That's her entire year. It's no one can no one tops that this year. It's crazy. That is because we I forgot she was in the Odyssey and I forgot that she's in Spider-Man. Wow. And like you can't. She's booked. She's booked and busy. That's why I can't even imagine she's filming anything this year. Yeah. What does she what does she got time to film? Mama, take a rest. She was barely at the euphoria premiere though. She was like, I'm well, I'm a one, I'm a one and done here deal. Um, that premiere is this Sunday.

SPEAKER_00

That's wild. I'm bumped. Um, okay, so we talked about this at the theater after the after the movie. Um would you, if you were Robert Pattinson, would you be able to follow through at the wedding? I have my answer.

SPEAKER_02

My answer is yes, because number one, I spent too much money. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. I'm also just like uh unfortunately the the first part of his answer is like social, where like I can't imagine canceling my wedding. Like that would bring me like immense, um, I would be like going to like a manic depressive episode. But also, I feel like he gets the answers. He like I mean, I feel like they have good conversation about it. Yes. You don't have to agree with what he does, yeah, but he she talks about it. He she hasn't avoid she's avoidant at first. Yes. And then I kind of like also then he he does that like I mean I guess we'll we will call it cheats, but it's like a weird there's like it's a weird energy there. And then like kind of they come back together as like two broken people reuniting again. But I think that that just speaks to what what she wanted to do was so much worse. But I think it it speaks to like you can there's no I think it speaks to there's no moral superiority. Yes. Everyone's gonna be fucked in some way, and we all agree to certain levels of that with people, and you're you have to find out in real time sometimes when you marry someone what your level of that is, or when or when you're with someone, yes, what you're willing to put up with and what you're not willing to put up with. Yes.

SPEAKER_00

So I don't know if you feel the same way, but no, I do. I do. I um I said yes. I said I would be able to You have to say no.

SPEAKER_02

Did anyone say no? Or you have to say who did it? Did anyone say no?

SPEAKER_00

Yes, yes. We actually were a divided group. Oh, love that. At the Applebee's, at the Applebee's. Um, yes, a a few people said no. Um, and that's their right, you know. I'm not here to judge.

SPEAKER_02

So if I'm a if I'm a straight man and it's Andaya, it does also help.

SPEAKER_00

T T.

SPEAKER_02

Like if like if we were as a gay relationship with it's Robert, it's Robert Pattons and I saw honey, it's okay. Come over here. Yeah, yeah, come over here.

SPEAKER_00

I can fix you.

SPEAKER_02

Correct, correct, correct.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly, exactly. Um, but speaking of the end of the movie, I love the way they did that, where you know, she did like the role play thing, and I was like sobbing. Earlier, I hated the roleplay. I was like, what are we doing? And then as soon as soon as she walked in and I said, It's gonna come back.

SPEAKER_02

And she sat down and it's gonna come back what the what they did before. It was so good. So good.

SPEAKER_00

It was so good. And it's just like so symbolic of like truly a fresh start to be like the movie's a hundred minutes.

SPEAKER_02

Can we celebrate this? The movie's a hundred minutes. We need more movies that are a hundred minutes long, and musicals that are oh well yeah, but I mean like it wasn't a long movie, and there was so much, there was so much in that.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, so much in that. Yeah, it doesn't have to be a three-hour movie to tell a damn story. No, it does not, it does not and say that and they got it, they got it wrapped up quick.

SPEAKER_02

Um, but no, I I was I was a big fan of this. I liked it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it was really good. I would I want to see it again because Josh needs to see it. Oh, he didn't see it, he wasn't there.

SPEAKER_02

Um Matt Matt also did not see it because I I called him and he was like, I was like, I'm going to go. Are you saying the drama? I go, yeah. He goes, his best friend. They go, Mary, Mary Kate says I need to see it with you in a in a full crowd. They go, Do you want to go now? He goes, No. It was like 8 30. Usually around 8 30, you've decided if you're going in or out.

SPEAKER_00

Correct.

SPEAKER_02

Like it's hard to, it's hard to change minds after that.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

But um uh yes, I highly recommend the drama. Yes. 824, you can it's still in theaters, you'll be able to rent it soon, I'm sure. And it's 824, so it'll be on HBO eventually. But um, it's uh highly recommend the the drama. So good. And we will be right back.

SPEAKER_00

And we're back. Um I'm a little tipsy.

SPEAKER_02

I'm a little tipsy too. That's what I was I keep I keep singing Zendaya's replay, which means you know I've had a couple beverages.

SPEAKER_00

We're drinking um a rum and diet. A rum and diet, which you know.

SPEAKER_02

And ooh, bitch, it is good. Just reminds me for the batch I need. I'm gonna send out like a um a uh I'm planning Sean's bachelor party. Spoiler alert. Spoiler alert. I'm gonna um put out like a Google form of like what liquor do you like? Yes. Because I'm like, we that I feel like there's an efficient way to buy this. There's an efficient way to be like, we don't need we don't need three bottles of vodka if no one's gonna drink it. And maybe we only need one bottle of rum. If someone only one person says they like rum. You know what I mean? Like there's there's a there's a way to do it. So love that. That's on my that's on my list. Anyway, um titular second.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, we're gonna get into our titular. Um, Mary, did you know? Um, and I'm gonna go first because this just like pissed me off today. Please, please. Mary, did you know one of my pet peeves is when people leave their windshield wipers up and their car is off? Yeah, like that, I don't know why, but that just bothers the fuck out of me. Like, put your wipers down before you get out of your damn car. You look a damn mess. You're sitting there, like it looks like I I don't even know. It just looks inappropriate. It looks inappropriate. Something is wrong. Put your fucking windshield wipers down before you get out of your car.

SPEAKER_02

Can I give a follow-up to that? I I want them down in two ways. I want them down the way that you mean, which is like you turn like they were going and you just like let them stop halfway on your car. Yeah. Also, I don't care, winter. When people have them like up pointing up, oh, that's so embarrassing. Scrape the ice off. What the fuck are you doing?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Also, I feel like that's gonna make them worse. It's just that that's like loser behavior. It is loser behavior. What are you doing? I'm so sorry, but like if you yeah, if you pitch your your windshield wipers like so they're standing straight up, so you that's weird.

SPEAKER_02

It literally is like weird. It's like if you're looking for who who's the loser on Bathurst, we found him.

SPEAKER_00

Uh-huh. Yeah, not me. Said your street. Well, they don't know. That's fine. Um, I don't think anyone's stopping by yet. Um, but yeah, so that's one of my pet peeves. And another one relating to windshield wipers is when people have them up like on high when you don't need them on high. If it's a slight drizzle and your windshield wipers are fucking going like super fast.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, that's true, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02

Okay, but here's the thing I agree with you. I don't if they're going super high, I'm gonna shut them off. Sometimes we're driving and I forget, and Matt will just be like, and turns them off. And I'm like, okay, good, because I do sometimes forget. But if they're going crazy high, you know, but they're not.

SPEAKER_00

But also, like, it does bother me too if they're on and it's stopped raining. Correct. And like you well, and it starts to sound like why does it sound so dry?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. It's like no lube.

SPEAKER_00

Like, like, like, come on. There's like we need to wrap wrap this up. Yeah. So that's just a couple of my pet peeves. Um, what are some of your pet peeves?

SPEAKER_02

I the ch two big ones. I'll do my first one first because it's like a a little bit easier. If you are in 39E when the plane lands, why are you standing up? Yep. I totally get it. If you are towards the front of the plane, yeah, get up and start to go. Yeah. But if you are all the way in the back of the plane, why are you standing? Right. Or sorry, I should I should rephrase that. Everyone's gotta stand, everyone's gotta stretch their legs. Why are you in the aisle getting your bags? Yes. Because we're not we're not gonna move for at least five minutes. Yeah, probably ten if we're in the back of the plane. Correct. That pisses me off to no why are you up? Yeah. Also, you're actually gonna make it harder for us. Like, we're all poor. Yeah, sit down. Actually, we're not even all poor. Some of us probably could have spent the money, but it doesn't make sense.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, because like if you're standing in the aisle and when it comes time for me to get my bag, bitch, I gotta move you out of the way. Like, you're in my damn way.

SPEAKER_02

You're in the way. And my other big one, which I've talked I've talked to you about this, is like telling someone that you hate something they love. Yes, does not compute for me. Yes. It's totally fine that you don't like something. But if if me liking it does not impact you, why do you have to tell me? Correct. I find that baffling behavior. It's like who who can like again, unless it direct like if if I love, I don't know, like if I love like this, I was gonna say kicking kids, but that even feels whatever. But it's like if I liked you to walk up and kick children and you have a kid, I could see you being like, hey, I don't like that you kick kids. Like that feels I don't know. I could see some sort of what the fuck are we talking about? But like if I like listening to an artist and you don't like them, I don't need to know that you hate them.

SPEAKER_00

Correct, correct. And that goes out that goes to everyone who hates Taylor Swift. I don't give a damn. Specifically, that's kind of what I'm getting at here.

SPEAKER_02

Is like because we hear it all the time. And again, it's not to say I have no interest in changing your mind. And I also I honestly don't want like if that's what I don't want to change your mind. Amazing.

SPEAKER_00

Godspeed, love that for you. Bitches, I have to fight for tickets.

SPEAKER_01

Correct. But it's like, I just don't understand, like telling me that.

SPEAKER_02

What is that what is that doing? What are we achieving here? Do you just want me to know that you don't like them? And it's like, girl, Diva, believe me, I already know. So it's like, what are we doing with this? Also, if you are a Taylor fan, we may have something in store. We'll chat, we'll chat after this about next week. We'll see. Oh, yes. But um Yeah, I just don't understand that. I just don't know those are those are the two major pet peeves that jump out to me that I just don't really care for.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And pet peeves are funny because they're really just like frustrations that you know that like bubble up, and you're just like, Yeah, no, no, thank you. Yeah. Um I guess I'm next. Mary, did you know that there was this like last five years concert with Rachel Zegler and Ben and Ben Patty? I did see this. Can you tell me about it? Yeah, so I think it's a great idea. They basically were just billing it as like it sort of was, I mean, it was fully, I mean, it's the last five years, not gonna not be memorized, it's just songs, but it was like kind of staged-ish. Yeah. A concert with Rachel Zegler playing Kathy, Ben Platt playing um Jamie and Jason Robert Brown on the piano and conducting. Um, and they did it at the Palladium in London, they did it at uh the Hollywood Bowl, and they did it at Raiders City Music Hall. Oh, wow. And they recorded it live, uh, they recorded a cast album live in London, so it's gonna be out next week. Okay. Um, of like them singing the songs. Um what my complaint is, is like I'm not saying that you have to like Ben Platt. This is like it, again, to what I said before. Him for some people, they just don't vibe with it. I happen to like him, and I uh as like a singer, I like his I like his voice. I think when it suits the material, it's like really thrilling and exciting. Um, him as a person, I'm like, I don't really, I don't really have an opinion. Like, but it's one of those weird things where like I saw him in previews of Dear Van Hanson, and that's one of the best performances I've ever seen my human do. It was like, now is that kind of every performance he gives now? Yeah, but at the time I didn't know that. Sure. And it was sure. I saw that in Cynthia Revo within like a week.

SPEAKER_00

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_02

And I was like, these are two of the best performances I've ever seen.

SPEAKER_00

Yep.

SPEAKER_02

But my thing is like people are like there are always comments on TikTok that are like, why did he do it with her? Why isn't it like Andrew Barth Fellman or always and I literally and I I started to get into fights on TikTok where I was like, Do you not understand that people are paying to see him? Like, she's a star, people like want to see her, but it's a double bill. Like, right, he's a big name. Yeah, he's a Tony and Grammy and Emmy winner. I was like, I just like that part's lost in me where it's like you don't need to like him, but it's like could it's like it's it's Gen Z on TikTok who don't understand anything how business works. Where it's like, I'm not saying that it's the right decision, but they want to make some money, and Ben Platt and Rachel Zegler doing the last five years makes money. Andrew Barth Fellman, much respect to that gentleman, a winner of the Jimmy Awards, and Rachel Zegler, Diva, they're hawking tickets on the side of the road.

SPEAKER_00

It just kills me imagining you getting into TikTok fights in the comments with like these.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, yes, it's fighting about rent. Yes. I literally said, Yeah, well, he was on the rent national tour and you're fat and unemployed behind your keyboard on your couch. Oh, bitch. I don't give a fuck.

SPEAKER_00

I know I saw that that like was happening. The TikToks were like popping off from the Lockport Palace when we did rent. And people had opinions. And people had opinions, and I just like didn't, I couldn't read them because I was like, and that's also why I didn't I feel like I didn't tell you about it for a while.

SPEAKER_02

I felt I think I waited until the show was over.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Because I was like, I didn't know. It's not beneficial to tell you that people are saying some of the other cast members were talking about how like the TikToks were like exploding, they had like hundreds of thousands of views or something, and like all these comments, and you know, people had opinions, and yeah, that's bound to happen with a viral video, especially with something like Rent. Yes. Um, but yeah, I I couldn't read the comments because I frequently get into TikTok fights. It kills me.

SPEAKER_02

Particularly about Broadway because they're just everyone's so stupid. Well, yeah, they're just dumb and they don't understand how like again, I'm not like also it's Broadway. If we want to fight about artistic integrity, there's many other places to do it. Broadway is a business, and that's not what you want to hear. But like we like if we want to talk about like Radio City Music Hall, yeah, D. But they're not bringing in the bus and truck tour of Fame the Musical.

SPEAKER_01

Like it's like it's like it's like we got I just try to think of.

SPEAKER_02

Why am I catching strays? I literally was like, what's the most low budget thing I could think of in my head? Damn. But it's that that thing where it's like you might not like Ben Platt, but like also, I kind of love it if we're gonna, we won't get too crazy right here right now, but like Ben Platt's father and brother have been very um aggressive in their thoughts and feelings about Rachel Zegler and some of the views that she's expressed about Israel and Palestine. And I kind of love that Ben, her brother, was like, fuck the both of you. I'm doing this with her. Yeah, I feel like that's a big win for him. I just it's just a win of like, even if I don't even we don't even know if he I mean he has shared some stuff. We know how he feels. But even if he doesn't fully agree with her, it's his way of being like, I support this woman. Yes. And I support her right to speak on whatever she wants to say. And I kind of love that he, I feel like his brother doesn't speak to him, and that's Kunty. Love that. I think that's it.

SPEAKER_00

I think, yeah, I think we could keep talking for hours and hours because this Ram and Diet. This Ram and Diet is doing the Lord's work. Woo! Well we're we're gonna save the shareholders from our constant yapping and correct. We'll see you next week.

SPEAKER_02

Bye.

SPEAKER_00

Bye, I think.