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This week we kick-off by talking about how excited we are to see The Devil Wears Parada 2 before trailing off into a conversations on recent books we've been reading. We then move into a conversation on shows we've been catching up on: Euphoria, Half Man, and Hacks, amongst others.

We finish the episode with our TITULAR Mary, Did You Know segment which includes everything performers yelling at audience members to the downfall of Spirit Airlines. Next week is our season finale!

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:04

Mary, did you know?

SPEAKER_02 0:22

Hello and welcome to Mary.

SPEAKER_00 0:25

Did you know the podcast a long time now, see? I know. For the shareholders are tuning back in. Um, we are recording this right after our previous episode. We didn't even change. We didn't even change. Um, we just have a lot to a lot to say.

SPEAKER_02 0:43

Correct, correct. And we wanted to make sure that you had content.

SPEAKER_00 0:45

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 0:46

Even as we're, you know, maybe get gallivanting around the country.

SPEAKER_00 0:49

Because this when this comes out, I will have just gotten back from Texas. Yes. Yes. Um. So we just didn't have time to record it the weekend before.

SPEAKER_02 0:58

So and speaking of time, unfortunately, we we both are seeing the Devil Wars Prada 2 tonight. Yes. But this is like we can't really talk about it. Because we haven't seen it. Well, we can talk about it, but we we just the way that this timed out and the way that this is gonna come out. But it's gonna I the reports are of it, it's made like 200 something million dollars globally this weekend. So it's it's it's I imagine a majority of our shareholders listening will have will have seen it. So we can sort of give our thoughts on the OG and why we're excited to see the new one.

SPEAKER_00 1:30

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm super excited to see it. Um, I'm seeing it before you, a couple hours before you correct. Um but I from what I'm hearing is that this is a sequel like well done. Yeah. And I was, as many people were, I was very nervous because I'm like, the first movie is so good. I just rewatched it. It is literally perfect.

SPEAKER_02 1:53

Like, okay, there are some anything with the boyfriend is bad. But yeah, because he's the villain. Correct, but there's so much other good stuff that that sort of just like washes away.

SPEAKER_00 2:03

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 2:04

Um, and this I mean, like, it's so it's been said so many times, but like the the lot dialogue like cracks me up. What is your what is your favorite line that you can like remember offhand?

SPEAKER_00 2:15

Obviously, the iconic blue sweater monologue is incredible. Um and just anytime Meryl says, that's all.

SPEAKER_02 2:25

My favorite line, yes, those is um is Emily Blunt who plays who plays Emily. This is like her first big thing ever, is when she looks at Anne Hathaway and she goes, Oh, I'm sorry, do you have some prior commitment? Some hideous skirt convention you have to attend is so fucking funny. Yeah, like what do you mean that? And then it's I think it's the oh, I'm sorry, do you have some prior commitment? And then later when she says um that she's one stomach flu away from her goal weight, that also also makes me makes me laugh.

SPEAKER_00 2:56

It's like it's problematic now, but iconic.

SPEAKER_02 3:00

Also, in the movie they like make fun of Anne Hathaway for being a size six like the entire time. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, they're like, hey Fanny. Yeah, also gird your loins is also great. Yeah, yeah. Um, but the issue with the tr. So did you see the trailer for the new one? Yes. It's terrible, yeah. And everyone, all the reviews are like, guys, I like the movie's great. Like, do not trust the trailer makes it look like Miranda has like amnesia. But yeah, I guess the basic plot line of it is that um uh it's all about sort of like the decline of print media and like journalism. Um this isn't getting away, this is like the like long line of the movie. Andy Sachs is like a very, you know, f uh big reporter now. She loses her job and she ends up getting hired as the features editor at Runway. And then for some reason, which is the undisclosed part, they end up having to go and talk to Emily Charlton, who now runs a whole different magazine. Okay so they have to sort of like go back in and deal with Emily and like Stanley Tucci is also there. Yep. Um, just being being gay, not gay. Uh-huh. Our best straight who plays gay.

SPEAKER_00 4:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:09

He really is no one's no one's doing it. No one's doing it like him. Um, but and it's got the same, I feel like what's helpful is like the director of this is I mean, no shade to him, his name is David Frankel. He's not exactly an art an arteur, but it's the same director and it's the same writer. Okay. And I feel like that is often not what happens with these like revamp sequels. It's like, even if it's like, you know, I didn't dislike Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, but even if it's something like that, it's Tim Burton, but it's like newer people wrote it. Like it's like sometimes I feel like the actual like particularly with something like the first one, which is so quotable, whoever's writing it needs to be needs to be the same.

SPEAKER_00 4:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:48

We'll be able to tell.

SPEAKER_00 4:49

Right, right. Um yeah, I I'm very excited to see it.

SPEAKER_02 4:55

Um I think how long has it been? 20 years? 20 years. The movie came out in 2006.

SPEAKER_00 5:03

That's in the movie.

SPEAKER_02 5:04

Which is crazy. And the other reason why I think it will be good is like Meryl doesn't do sequels. Right. The only sequel that she's ever been in where she was in both movies was Mamma Mia, but she's barely in the second Mama Mia. It's like a it's like it's like a cameo. The whole movie's about the fact that she's not there. Um, this is her first sequel as a lead. Yeah. And I feel like that to me says the script can't be bad. All four of them, all four of them have good taste. Right. And you know, and and and Hathaway, Emily Blunt, Stanley, Tucci, Merrill, they're not gonna do schlock. Yeah, even if they're getting paid, I'm sure, very well. Um, also, Merrill's been doing primarily TV. Someone pointed out this is her first leading role in a movie in nine years. Really? Which is crazy. Yeah, well, she's either been doing supporting stuff. Like she was in a little, I think her last big movie was Little Women, maybe. Like her where she like major movie, like that came out in theaters. But she's like, you know, the aunt in that. She's not like the lead. This is her like the lead. Wow. It's also because I think about this because you were reading is pronounced Verity. Verity. This is the year of Ant Hathaway. Bitch, she is working. I haven't seen Mother Mary, but that came out like two weeks ago, which she's plays like a pop star. She's in the Devil Wars Prada 2. She's in, she's like, I think the female lead of the Odyssey. Yes. Um, which comes out this summer. And then she's in a horror movie at some point in like September. Isn't it like House at the end of the street?

SPEAKER_00 6:26

Something like House at the end of Oak Street or something like that.

SPEAKER_02 6:28

Yes, she's in that, and then she's in Verity. Yeah. I don't know if she plays the I think she plays the what I know of that is that there's like a writer. Or like, and then she has a ghostwriter.

SPEAKER_00 6:41

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 6:42

I think she plays the She plays the ghostwriter, right? I think I'm gonna look it up right now.

SPEAKER_00 6:46

I don't know much about the movie. I'm reading the book right now.

SPEAKER_02 6:48

But if I just say the character names, you'll know.

SPEAKER_00 6:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:50

Verity.

SPEAKER_00 6:52

She doesn't play because Verity is the actual writer.

SPEAKER_02 6:55

Verity is oh, it's Josh Hartnett who plays the guy. Do you know who he is? He was in like track. Yeah, yeah. Um, so he plays Jeremy Crawford, who I assume is like the guy. The husband. And plays Verity Crawford.

SPEAKER_00 7:07

And Dakota Johnson plays Oh, interesting.

SPEAKER_02 7:12

No, I'm pumped. Also, because like some of these Colleen Hoover movies are trash, but this is like the level of like somewhat elevated trash. Like the number one, the cast is is is is good. And then the um the director is Michael Showwalder, who directed like the big, the the big sick, if you ever saw that, or the eyes the eyes of Tammy Faye. Um The Idea of You, which was the Anne Hathaway one where like she fell in love with the guy from Red White and Royal Blue. So like I feel like this is like a slightly that's a slightly more elevated. It's not like some of these like you see the memories of him or whatever. Yeah. Some of these that look like they almost look like Christian movies. Yes, yes, they do, or like lifetime movies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This this seems to be, and I've heard people Christian movies. Well, you know what I mean though? It's like it seems like at the end they're gonna be like, Yeah, it's gonna be like it was God all along. Praise him. Praise him. That's how they also they like look like that.

SPEAKER_00 8:03

Yes, they do.

SPEAKER_02 8:04

And it's like, I don't know. That movie, I was listening to a podcast about that movie, is quite literally about that one that I don't even know what that's called, but it just came out a couple a couple weeks ago. It made like a hundred million dollars. It's about like a woman who like accidentally like like she like kills someone in a car, but she's pregnant, and they like send her to jail, but she like has the baby in jail, but she gets out and is like trying to like see her see her baby again.

SPEAKER_00 8:24

And I'm like, I did see that I saw a trailer for this.

SPEAKER_02 8:26

This is a lot. Yeah, all that happened to you tonight, right?

SPEAKER_00 8:30

Right.

SPEAKER_02 8:30

Um, but that book doesn't look that long, which is showing it.

SPEAKER_00 8:33

No, and it's like it's it it's moving quick. Okay. So um I remember. Are there twists and turns? Lots of twists, lots of turns. Okay. Um I don't want to give anything.

SPEAKER_02 8:43

That will have to be a movie, um a movie club moment in the fall.

SPEAKER_00 8:47

Yes, yes, yes. In the fall. It went it comes out October.

SPEAKER_02 8:51

I think it's yeah, I think it's October. I think it's I think it said October 6th. Yeah, October like 13th, maybe. Oh, 13th. I'm just making Oh no, October 2nd. Second. October 2nd. Yeah. Incredible. Why is she oh she's reading? I was like, why is she reading? But uh, it looks like the same book. Like she's like like the book she's and that's Dakota Johnson. Yeah, but like it looks like the book that you have. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:11

It looks like the Verity book. So do you know the the premise of the piece? The piece So Verity is the author. She's a writer. Basically, she gets into an accident, like a car accident that leaves her like paralyzed, or you know, um like she's lost her brain function, she needs like full care. Um, but she's still she's an author, and she still has like two books left in like her book deal or her book series. So they hire a ghostwriter who is Loan, who is Dakota Johnson, Dakota Johnson, and she basically like moves into the house to learn everything she can, like go through her office and you know, because she hasn't read the the series, so she reads the series and you know, she's trying to find like notes on on the so she can complete the series, basically. Okay. Um and you know, as she's looking through her office, she finds like some stuff, some stuff that is um an autobiography of that Verity wrote. Okay, so she's learning a lot more about Verity and Okay, that makes sense because I that my next question.

SPEAKER_02 10:23

So is there a lot of flashbacks? To to as she's reading, or like you could see them dramatizing what she's reading.

SPEAKER_00 10:28

No, she's just it's full chapters from her autobiography.

SPEAKER_02 10:33

Oh, but that's what I meant though. So like we're not gonna my main question for you was like, is Anne gonna be like in a in like a chair the whole time? No, no, no. That's what I mean. Like, so we're gonna we're gonna we're we're seeing moments in her life as we go through.

SPEAKER_00 10:46

Yes. Okay, yes.

SPEAKER_02 10:47

I'm assuming because the the the chapters are I don't think Anne's doing the whole like the whole the whole movie from like a chair.

SPEAKER_00 10:53

No. But the and if the this might be a spoiler, so if you're going to read the book or watch the movie, maybe skip. Skip ahead like 30 seconds. 30 seconds. Um but the question is is she actually paralyzed?

SPEAKER_02 11:07

God, okay.

SPEAKER_00 11:08

Which I think I don't think that's really a I feel like that's because some spooky shit happens, and you know, the the ghostwriter is like, I think I s saw her walking in the middle of the night, things like that.

SPEAKER_02 11:20

So it's making me think of something that we cannot say on mic, but I will tell you about it. Um that is but it's very good.

SPEAKER_00 11:26

Like the book is very, very good.

SPEAKER_02 11:28

I may read that before the movie.

SPEAKER_00 11:30

Yeah. And I that's like my thing now. I I am reading books before I'm going to see the movie, and I want to do that. Um, and I never was like this before this year. I've read so many books this year. Didn't work out with Hamnet. No. None of us running. No, no.

SPEAKER_02 11:45

I killed I killed Book Club with Hamlet. You literally did. Everyone's I never want to see you people again. Sorry. So yeah, no, you you you have been reading a lot. Yeah. Well, it's the power of the power of the library.

SPEAKER_00 11:56

It is. It is. I love the library. Um, although I'm reading Theo of Golden. Which are they turning that into a movie?

SPEAKER_02 12:05

We can look it up in real time. Let's do it. We have we have the time. Let's see. I could be wrong. Is it Theo of Golden?

SPEAKER_00 12:12

Theo of Golden. Um, that's my next book club book. I went onto the library website to request it, and it's so popular right now.

SPEAKER_02 12:22

Umbe it's gonna be a T a TV show.

SPEAKER_00 12:25

Okay. I just wondered because it's so popular right now, I'm like 274 on the list at the library. Um so I'm wondering like, is it being turned into something that's why everyone wants to read it, or is it just a popular book right now? Who's to say?

SPEAKER_02 12:41

One of these things is what's the deal with Theo of Golden? is one of the things that comes up. That was me. I posted that. It says in April 2026, there is no as of April 2026, there is no official film adaptation of the best-selling novel Theo of Golden. However, the author confirmed that he and his agents are sick are fielding significant um interest. Fans have discussed potential casting, including actors such as Anthony Hopkins, Tom Hanks, and Antonio Banderas. What the fuck? Oh wow. This movie follow the story follows a stranger named Theo who bought who arrives in a small town of Georgia and buys 92 pencil portraits of the residents from a coffee shop, returning each to his subject and learning their stories. Oh, yeah, so it does seem like a little nice old man story.

SPEAKER_00 13:19

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_02 13:20

I mean, I'm sure there's interesting information that comes out as he returns those portraits.

SPEAKER_00 13:25

Um but yeah, so that's my next book. Um, but I posted, I know you saw this, I posted on the Kenmore Tanawanda Buy Nothing Facebook group, and basically was like, hey, does anyone by chance have a copy that I can borrow? Because the library, it I'm not gonna get it in time. I'm almost 300th on the list. Um, and someone responded, and I went to her house to pick up this. Love that book. So I got it in my possession. Um, and it was funny because she was she was like, Um, I haven't read it yet, so just make sure you treat her like a lady. I saw that. Treat her like a lady, and you're like, I will. I said, Yeah, so I won't touch her.

SPEAKER_01 14:04

Funny.

SPEAKER_00 14:05

Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 14:07

Thank you. Um, I also recently read a book. I listened to a book, which I feel like is important to say. Which because I I still consume the media, but I do feel like you have to say listened because reading is a different thing.

SPEAKER_00 14:19

People, and this is the And people don't do that. People, I have this, I have mine is probably the hot take, but I don't think listening to it is the same as reading it. And I know I think have we had this conversation on the pod before? I don't think we had it on the pod. Um and listen, I might get hate for it, but I just think if you're listening to it, you're listening to it, you're not reading it. Um and there there is a difference in my mind, and people are the something that I hear often is oh, well, that's ableists, because you, you know, some people can't read. And you know, if if they're dyslexic or or you know, they have vision problems and you know they can't read. And you know, I and I totally agree. Um, but I think there's a difference between you reading it and like hearing the inflection that you create as opposed to I do think there's a difference.

SPEAKER_02 15:12

I think I don't think it's I think you're right to call out that like for some people it's easier to listen to. And if and if it's a uh and if it's a um and if that's how you're gonna be able to do it. And if it's the accessibility thing, then who cares? Yeah. But I do think there is something to consuming media in the way that someone has designed for it to be consumed. So it's like if someone chose to read a book, doesn't mean you can't take it in other ways, but they've chosen to write a book, which is a different form of media than like choosing to make a podcast or something. Like so it just means that you're just taking it in a slightly different way than maybe that person intended, but you can still get it out of it, but it's like you said, you there is something to reading it in your head and like coming up with your own.

SPEAKER_00 15:51

Yes, and especially with like inflection, because I think that's a big thing of you know how you interpret something rather than you know hearing someone else's voice say it.

SPEAKER_02 16:01

I like sometimes to know, which is interesting that you um were reading this this book we were talking about without fully knowing, which is also fine. Sometimes if I know something's going to be a movie, I like just knowing who's gonna be in it because it helps me like so the first time, which is funny because they're finally making the movie. The first time I read The Nightingale, I knew that the fanning sisters were trying to do a movie. So I was able to, in my head, just like put them in the in the in like the parts, which just like helped me. I remember when I first read The Help, I had seen the poster, so I knew okay, that's a mustn't that's that's by all that um so that was able that just like put my brain like to sort of I don't know. I I I find that helpful. I read a book while I listen to a book. Um Lena Dunham's book, Fame Sick, so fucking good. It's like she did a she had a one other book um in the like early like 2010s called Not That Kind of Girl, and it was more essays. Um, and this says Fame Sick and Memoir, and I kind of was like, I don't any memoir, sometimes the childhood is interesting. It's rarely, it's rarely not. Like it's rare, I rarely want to hear the first like 10 chapters of someone's m memoir about their whatever. But hers is not that. It starts basically when she gets when she's making her first movie, which gets her girls and all of that stuff. So it's basically like a like a 10 to 12 year span of time throughout the making of girls and throughout the the breakup of her and Jack Antinoff and through her chronic illness. Which this isn't a spoiler, she's been talking about like eventually she ends up having a hysterectomy because she has such bad endometriosis. Um, so the book is about her her concept in the book is like I'm I have a chronic illness and also fame is an illness. And so it's her just being like good and bad, but like here, like I suffered through two illnesses. Yeah. Like and what it was like that was the biggest thing ever, and then everyone decided they hated me. And then also, like, I have days where I can't get out of bed and all this stuff. And it was um I listened to it almost I finished almost entirely on the drive back from Philly. I finished it. Oh wow. Um and I cried in my car. Wow. It was two stories. The one was a little like emotional, and I'll tell you the one I actually cried at. The one, her and Anna Driver like didn't re- They didn't knock it along. But you ever like work with someone where like you create magic on stage together or on screen, but you don't really like you're not really like similar, or like you're like in real life, you'd be like, I really wouldn't be friends with this person. Yeah. Kind of seem like what they had. Like they're they're crazy on that show, their their energies, and she talks about like eventually they didn't talk for the they didn't speak for the last like three years of the show. They would be in the show, but they just speak, and she says that they filmed their final scene, um, and then they like had goodbye, and he she basically was like started to apologize, being like, I don't like I'm sorry if I didn't never give you what you needed. I'm sorry if like this was really hard, and you basically just hugged her and was like, it was exactly what it was supposed to be. She goes, I've never heard from him again. But like she goes, but I had like I had closure. That got me emotional. And the other one was her talking about Jack Antinoff, which like I think the reason there hasn't really been a lot of noise about it because she writes very nice about him. Like she there's some stuff in there that's not great. But um, like there's one story where like she wakes up from having a surgery and he and he had like not really under people like a lot of people don't understand like like like PCOS and endometriosis stuff because like especially like men like don't have any concept of that. And so he, I guess, sort of she was like, he didn't realize how much pain I was in. And he we wakes up from surgery and he's next to the bed, and he he tells me that the doctor said that he's never seen anything worse than what he saw when they opened her up, and he's sobbing. And she goes, and in that sob, I understood that he was saying I'm sorry. That got me. And then when they like broke up, they like mutually decided it needs to end. And I was like, the way she wrote about it, I was just like, I've been getting choked up again now. It was just like someone who's really good at writing.

SPEAKER_00 19:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:55

Uh and normally like memoirs aren't like that. Normally memoirs.

SPEAKER_00 19:58

Did she read it in her own okay?

SPEAKER_02 20:00

Which also I think too, back to your take. I do think that m celebrity memoirs I like listening to. Absolutely. I feel like that is a it's that's a separate thing.

SPEAKER_00 20:11

I want to hear that person read me their story. And that I to I can totally agree with. And I I don't wanna I don't want to get canceled from my previous takes.

SPEAKER_02 20:20

I I think that that's but like me, the fact that I got to listen to 48 hours of Barbara Streisand reading her book is crazy.

SPEAKER_00 20:26

Or like the Mariah Carey one is crazy. And that's interesting because that is their voice, that's how they meant it, and that's how you know what I mean. So I think is it reading?

SPEAKER_02 20:37

TV D. TV it is, but it's funny, especially the Mariah one, she would just like start singing. Honestly, I love that. I love that. But I am currently I am listening to another book that's not a celebrity memoir book. I am listening to the new Hunger Games one.

SPEAKER_00 20:54

So for those, do they do they have like auditions to be the voice actor? I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 20:58

It's and it's interesting because the voice actor, it's a it's a it's a guy, but he like does it's very talent, it's a very specific skill because he does do.

SPEAKER_00 21:06

Does he do different voices for different characters?

SPEAKER_02 21:08

Not like not in an insane way. So like if he's doing like in the this is about Hamich, the Woody Harrelson character, it's the 50th annual Hogger Games. So it's when they had 48 tributes, they had double the kids, and so it it like opens with like the reaping. And also I forgot that Hamich's birthday is like reaping day, so it's his birthday, and he's you know gets picked. And uh so he does his main voice is the Hamish voice, because it's written in first person, like all like the other books are. Um, and then like there's a the Glenn Close plays like the like the evil version of Effie. There's a real like Elfanning plays young Effie in this movie, but Glenn Close and like he'll do that voice and he's like but like it but it feels normal. Like yeah, he he does his levels and like the some of the female voices, he softens his voice, but in a way that it's a skill because that could sound so strange. For sure. Yeah. And I've listened like I I I I don't listen to them because if I want to read these books again, I would just read my copy so I don't give her any more money. But um like the Harry Potter audiobooks, they have like full casts do that.

SPEAKER_03 22:08

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_02 22:09

Which I feel like uh cool, I guess, but like isn't that just like a play then? I don't know. It just feels right, it just feels weird. Right. But yeah, that's a hard skill to like to do like characters. Any type of voice actor, like that's I don't know if I could do that. I barely look like listen to myself when I have to edit when I have to edit these. Yeah, same. Like I could not listen. Also, imagine me narrating a book like hey divas. Chapter one. This has been a random house audiobook presents. Like, no, no, that's funny. Okay, um, should we take a break? Yeah. Okay, we're that was, you know, we were just rocking and rolling, so we'll take a break and we'll be right back. All right. And we're back. Whoo, okay. So next we're gonna talk about. Um we realized as we were sort of talking about the episodes that we have not, we're not watching the same TV, but I thought that was interesting. I was like, oh, we can talk about the shows that we're watching, what we're getting what we're getting into. Um what's something that you've watched or are watching right now?

SPEAKER_00 23:22

Um well I wanted to bring this up because I can't remember who, and I think it's you. I think you recommended this. Um, but Half Man.

SPEAKER_02 23:29

No, I haven't, but I've I've heard it's great. Oh, it's the same guy that made Baby Reindeer.

SPEAKER_00 23:34

Yes, yes. So this is a brand new show on HBO, um, and there's only two episodes out. It kind of took the slot of uh The Pit. Yes. So it's released Thursday, Thursday nights at nine. Um, and there's only two episodes, but Josh and I watched it and it's really good, but it's also one of those shows like Baby Reindeer where it's like hard to watch.

SPEAKER_02 23:57

That's what I heard someone saying it's almost better the way it's being slowly released because it would be a lot to watch it once.

SPEAKER_00 24:03

Yes, yeah, yes, and I don't think I would want to watch it all in one sitting because it it does deal with like a lot of tough topics and things like that. So um the premise is basically this um kid, his mom is a lesbian question mark. Um everyone assumes she is, um, because her this woman that like moves in with her and has been staying with her because she just needed somewhere to stay. Um, and the woman also has a son who just got out of like juvenile prison, basically. Um, and he moves in, and so the two sons are sharing a bedroom together, and the the son that gets out of prison is like kind of you know troubled. Um, and so he acts out and he is a little violent, and you know, but the two like they're basically like brothers, they develop this like type of uh like brothership where it's like you know, the the older one is like protecting the younger one, but he's doing it in like a violent way, so like the the younger brother is bullied at school, and like the older brother basically like almost kills one of the bullies. And it's like this weird dynamic of and then episode two is like flashes forward a couple years, and the younger brother goes to college, and the older brother comes to visit, and like they just get into like these this not fights, but like the the dynamic of the relationship is very interesting.

SPEAKER_02 25:42

I heard it's yeah, it's a lot it's a lot about like the concept of masculinity and like sort of like what what's involved in that. And I know I know the the guy Richard Richard Gabb from Baby Reindeer and Jamie Bell, who is OG OG Billy Elliott, um amongst other things. Uh are they the older versions of that? Yes, okay, yes. Because I I heard that they're uh this isn't a spoiler, I heard like the first three episodes are heavy on kids, and then from there it will be they are really like the the show.

SPEAKER_00 26:10

Because it it the show opens with um the the wedding of the younger brother. So he's also gay. Um that's like established from you know the the episode one. Um and it opens with them as adults, and the older brother basically like crashes the wedding. He was he wasn't invited, and um he just shows up. So then it flashes back and it kind of explains the relationship, but it it is like a story about like kind of like manipulation and like emotional abuse and physical abuse, and it's it is tough to watch, but it's it's really good.

SPEAKER_02 26:52

Okay, I'll have to have to get into it. And better to get into it now when there's only a couple. Yes. That was like can I tell you something? I never finished adolescence. Oh it's great, another tough one. I know that's kind of that's kind of why. Yeah, we saw like the big episode with like you know, um, the girl from the crown, like where she's like like we saw like, and it's great, but I was like, I can't like continue this. Yeah, my phone is blowing up right now, but hold on. I think we are oh, we're all set. Um, so yeah, um, oh, I love that. Well, that's something I need to get into.

SPEAKER_00 27:24

Yeah, and it's it's just really well done for as tough as it is, um it's it's good.

SPEAKER_02 27:31

All the all the shit it right now is on HBO Max because I have been watching like three shows I've been watching on there are Hacks, the Comeback, and Euphoria. Um talk about the comeback first. This isn't gonna be a hot take. I don't know. You never watched The Comeback, right? No. The comeback, I know I think I talked about it on this on this podcast. It's an amazing show. This season for me is maybe it's the best, like I think it's maybe the best that Lisa Coudreau has been on the show. It's a little uneven for me in terms of the actual show. It the first season was about like her being on this, it was sorry about the dawn of reality TV. Second season, 10 years later, it was sort of about um uh the dawn of like prestige television. So she's starring in like an HBO show about the making of the show she was on the first season that was drama. And then this one is kind of about AI. So she like accidentally ends up starring in the first sitcom to be fully written by AI. And as you can imagine, that goes horribly wrong.

SPEAKER_00 28:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:31

Um, and she's great, and it's it is building to something. I just I wonder if when I re-watch it in its totality, if I'll feel the same way, because I just re-watched the other two seasons and they felt so perfect. This one, it's good. I just like I'm missing a little something and it lead into that because I don't know, I don't think you watch hacks, do you? I watched the first couple seasons.

SPEAKER_00 28:49

Hacks is I need to get back into it.

SPEAKER_02 28:52

So fucking good. And like Gene Smart, I turned to Matt the other day when we were watching it, and I was like, she's winning the Emmy again. Like people thought maybe Lisa Coudreau, who's never won for the comeback, there'd be a lot of like good goodwill. I'm so sorry. She's uh she's up against Gene Smart, who's never lost for the show, and she is Wow, she's that she's about to win five for five. Like, and she is so good. The the last episode was um all about it, it was the last because it's the last season, so it was like the last episode that Caitlin Olsen, who plays her daughter, is on, and it was them doing this celebrity amazing race. Oh my god. Where they are starring and their rivals become um Trisha Paytas and that really annoying Jordan guy from that I love LA show. You know the one I'm talking about, the like gay one that said that said that the gay sex and heated rivalry wasn't real. Yes, yeah, yes, yes, yes. But they're the other pair. Oh wow, and the property brothers.

unknown 29:42

Like God.

SPEAKER_02 29:43

But it was it was um the whole this whole season is that Deborah is uh, I won't get fully into the spoils of what happens at the end of last season, but she's she gets into a situation where she can't perform. And so she's waiting until this contract expires so she can perform. And so she books a show at Madison Square Garden, but the only date they'll give there is September 11th. Um so the whole season is now her like promoting this. It's gonna end with, I presume, her doing this big show at Madison Square Garden. Um but yeah, the last episode I was like crying when it was like her and her mother, or like the you know, the DJ character and Deborah. It's just so good. Yeah, and it's so funny. One of the lines I've been thinking about from episode two this year, like Deborah realizes that she's been ignoring her fans. The little, the little Debbie's. Not the little Debbie's, little Debbies, and so she goes to like a Comic Con to like sign. She's she wants to try to rally her people to like give her the MSG show. And she realizes that they're all mad at her. They're like, they're like they're like, you haven't released a new calendar in two years. And the one guy, he just stands up and he's like, You haven't published Deborah's list of do-and-d'un's for two years. I don't know what to do and what I shouldn't do. Some days I just stand there thinking about it, doing nothing. It just made me LOL. Oh my goodness. But uh, so I highly recommend hacks.

SPEAKER_00 31:01

Yes, I need to get back into it.

SPEAKER_02 31:03

And euphoria. So here's the thing about euphoria. I watched the season premiere and I said, terrible, can't wait for next week. Yeah. Like that's sort of like, and also, did you watch any of Euphoria?

SPEAKER_00 31:14

No.

SPEAKER_02 31:14

So season one is like season one's fucked up. Season one is like they are they all look high school aged and they're just doing the most vile shit. Drugs, fucking all this stuff, precarious situations. Season two is so far the best season. Like that that was sort of like that's where all the you know the Oklahoma gifts and all those, like bitch, you better be joking, is this play about us? All that season two. Like, season two is really incredible. Um, because everyone kind of had become like the Zendaya and Sydney Sweeney and Alexa's Alexa Demi and Jacob Lori, they all kind of were more famous then. But now the issue is is like they are all so famous, and they did not film this season together. Now they have separate storylines, so like Zendaya's kind of off on her own thing, and she just the last episode, or I'm one behind. I haven't watched the wedding yet, but like her and Hunter Schaefer have a whole plot point that they do, and like Jacob Ballordi and City Sweeney are basically filming by themselves, like a whole separate storyline.

SPEAKER_00 32:11

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 32:12

I heard the wedding episode, all the characters are in the wedding, but I heard it took four months to shoot because it's was done in pieces. That's because they couldn't because they couldn't like schedule it together.

SPEAKER_01 32:22

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 32:22

It also just like I'm a big fan of I want I want there to be like I understand when you're like you know an art tour director, you know, you're like Paul Thomas Anderson, you're uh you're um like Christopher Christopher Dolan, whatever. You write your movies, but you're a good writer. Some people are not meant to write, yeah, but are great visual storytellers. Yeah. Sam Levinson, who makes this show, ass, cannot write. But it looks gorgeous. This one is a lot set in like like the California West, like more like these big open vistas. Like it looks beautiful, especially for TV. You're like, this looks better than any TV show. But then they talk and I'm like, what are you saying?

unknown 33:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:03

Or like I had to watch Zandaya like be a drug mule and like swallow a bunch of like fentanyl. And I'm like, what am I watching? Yeah. And like, also, like, you know, they're only back because they signed three-year deals. Yeah, they all got paid a lot more. Also, this the Sydney Sweeney character, I don't really fuck with her. I don't think she's very good, but she the whole show, like, it feels exploitative. Like her character's becoming an OnlyFans model, and like most of the show is like her like naked being like in like a dog collar. Literally, her character opens up and she's like in, like, her like tits are out. She's like covering up her, you know, lady parts under there, and she's got a dog collar, and the song is like, How much is that doggy in the window? Like, that's the song playing, and I'm like, What am I watching? What the hell? Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 33:54

So I think I'm good on euphoria.

SPEAKER_02 33:56

Yeah, I don't think you're missing this. I I am intrigued where it's headed, and I do like the oh my god, I saw the gift from it. The that woman that's like, Rue, you owe me, you owe me money. Have you seen her? No, she's like this deadpan woman. She's an I think she was an ex too. Literally, she's she just like walks up and she's like, Rue, you owe me money. And someone said, Kennedy, Kennedy Davenport doing another season of Drag Race All-Stars. Rue, you owe me money. Uh-huh. Um I watch again. Well, I finished, I finished the pit too.

SPEAKER_00 34:27

That was yes. I was thought it was a meh ending. Same, same.

SPEAKER_02 34:32

I um I feel like I liked the new doctor. What's her name? Dr. Al Hashimi. Yes. I just feel like, and I I she sold the end of it. Yes. I just don't know if they gave us enough of that.

SPEAKER_00 34:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:43

Like it felt like it came out of no. I felt like they also like what happened with that baby. Right. Why was she having like psychosis over the child?

SPEAKER_00 34:49

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:50

That never came out.

SPEAKER_00 34:51

Right. I the whole season. I I th I feel like it needed a bigger, like plot point, I guess. Like overarching plot point, other than the system being down.

SPEAKER_02 35:06

And unfortunately, like the for it being the 4th of July, I kind of thought we'd get better. Like it's awful, but like the concert shooting in the first season made some pretty incredible episodes of television. Yes. And this just like didn't really have that.

SPEAKER_00 35:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:23

Like in in a way that I wanted.

SPEAKER_00 35:26

Like a lot of interesting smaller sub-stories, but I think the overarching like plot points were just kind of like eh. Yeah. Like Dr. Robbie leaving and being suicidal. And you know.

SPEAKER_02 35:39

And like he sold that, but it just sort of like I don't know. Also, like I'm down for like this is the this is the issue with shows that which I like the concept, but want to do this sort of like real-time thing. Is like, why wanna know the rest of the ice plot line?

unknown 35:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:54

Like that doctor that got like arrested. I want to know more about that, but we kind of can't because they wouldn't have learned it in the following two hours. Yes. Yeah. And that sort of becomes, and again, I I get it, but I kind of wish there was a little bit more there.

SPEAKER_00 36:06

Right, right. Yeah. Um, so hopefully season three is stronger.

SPEAKER_02 36:13

They're gonna start filming it soon, I think.

SPEAKER_00 36:15

I have a theory that it's not going to start like at 7 a.m. I think it would be smart for them to start with an event where it's like they get called in at two in the morning and that's like the start of you also could get some more of the night shift people in there.

SPEAKER_02 36:31

Yeah. People think there's just gonna be a spin-off. People think there's gonna be like pit night shift or something. Because like, notice like they like some of those other doctors like showed up a little bit more. Yeah. Also, this is like a weird like Emmys thing, but the guy who plays um the like the I don't remember his name. He was like shirtless at one point. The hot doctor. Yeah, yeah, him. He won guest, he won the guest Emmy for guest actor in a drama series for season one because he wasn't in that many episodes. Right. Because he was in the beginning and he showed up at the at yeah, the the end. He submitted himself in supporting for this season, which is weird because he technically could he's meets the guidelines to be guests still, and we have to be in less than 50% of the episodes. Yeah. Um, but people were like, is this sort of like are we trying is are we trying to set up the fact that this character is about to like maybe is he gonna be like the co-lead or something of season two if if they do a time shift? Because I agree, I don't think you can do the same time again.

SPEAKER_00 37:26

Yeah, they need something to I don't know, shake it up.

SPEAKER_02 37:30

Yeah, I just like I also felt like some characters got a bit of a sh like the only thing what the only thing Santos did all season was like be told she had to be like doing charts, and she was just sitting there the whole time, just like talking into the AI thing. Like good for her. Love that she gets her coin, but like just like that there wasn't enough there for me.

SPEAKER_00 37:46

Yeah, and like the stuff, I feel like the entire season just made her look bad.

SPEAKER_02 37:50

Yeah. I did like the um the oh, I forget her name, Brian Cranson's daughter. Um is it Mel? Mel. Yeah. I like the plot line with her sister a lot. Yes. I like the fact that her sister was like, I'm a grown-up and I'm having sex. I don't need to tell you that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, anything that's not on HBO. We've only spoken of HB HBO programs.

SPEAKER_00 38:11

I just watched um it's on Netflix. It's called uh Should I Should I Marry a Killer? Oh, it's a documentary. Okay. It's a three-part documentary. Um Should I Marry a Killer? It's well, yeah, it's it's very interesting. So it follows this well, this this woman recounts her experience with during the pandemic, she met this guy, she messed with him on like hinge or whatever, and they start dating, and you know, they develop this like serious, passionate relationship, and it goes on for a while, and then they get engaged, and then like shortly after they're engaged, he basically confesses to killing someone in his past, um, like three years ago, and he was like, Yeah, it was it was an accident, like you know, I I hit a a cyclist, and we didn't I was with my brother and we didn't know what to do, so we buried the body, and yeah. And so then she spirals and she's like, What do I do? Like kind of like a version of the drama, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 39:16

We were just talking about that. Like, what like what what could you learn that would stop you from this? Seems worse.

SPEAKER_00 39:21

Well, yes, because it like he actually did it, you know. Um so she basically like turns him in. Like she like calls the police, but after like a a good good struggle, because in her mind it it seems very clear-cut what you should do, but at and she fully says this, but she's like, But when it's someone that you're in love with and you plan to spend the rest of your life with, like it's not that easy to just flip the switch and say, Okay, I'm calling the police, you know, and especially because he trusted her so much and they've built that relationship together. Um, but she, you know, she really struggled with it and she went through like some some like mental trauma dealing with this. Yeah. And it's it's really good. It's it's a three-part documentary, it's on Netflix. Um that's some heavy shit. It is, but that it's crazy because this is the stuff I'm like into now just because I love like just the psychology of it. And it's just so interesting to me how humans work when faced with like trauma like that, you know.

SPEAKER_02 40:23

That's also oh my god, that's also like the title. I'm slot over the title.

SPEAKER_00 40:29

Should literally, should I marry a killer? And spoiler alert, she doesn't.

SPEAKER_02 40:35

I would hope not.

SPEAKER_00 40:36

I mean, that would be well. That's why I think the title is a little misleading because she never said, like, oh, I'm gonna I'm gonna keep this secret and we're gonna get married and have yeah, she knew immediately what she had to do, but it didn't make it any easier. Correct. You know, so the title is misleading.

SPEAKER_02 40:53

What was that? What was that show with the woman that was like m making fun of her own daughter the whole time?

SPEAKER_00 40:59

Oh my god. What the hell was it? It was like what the hell was it called? I forget what it was called, but that was crazy.

SPEAKER_02 41:06

That whole thing, and then it just like cuts to her and she's like, Yeah. That reminds me of like that was very similar to like when you watched baby reindeer, like it wasn't funny, but the real text being like being like, You love me, huh? Yeah, like just like like all the bad like punctuations, it would pop up and I would laugh. Yes. I would, I would, I would laugh at it. Yeah, I'm trying to think of anything else that I've been watching that's not like Housewives or um well, also we can say they're about to start the drag drag race all-stars. We had to do the same colors.

SPEAKER_00 41:37

I know.

SPEAKER_02 41:38

Like I know we can do the same exact colors.

SPEAKER_00 41:40

I'm a little oversaturated with drag race right now.

SPEAKER_02 41:43

Yeah, I used to.

SPEAKER_00 41:44

But I'm also not.

SPEAKER_02 41:45

I mean I used to watch all of them like a long time ago. Like all of the spin-offs, and now it's like I only have capacity to watch the main franchise season and all-stars. I can't do I can't do like Canada and UK and all the shit.

SPEAKER_00 41:59

Here's the thing, I probably would if it was easier to watch.

SPEAKER_02 42:02

You didn't need Wow Presents Plus.

SPEAKER_00 42:04

I did pay for it for a while because their whole thing was like it costs less than a coffee for a month of membership, which it was. It was like three dollars a month. I know, and that's the thing.

SPEAKER_02 42:14

Like regular drag race wasn't on it, but we could watch like UK and Canada and all the we did do um when I I used to have a VPN, and so with if you have a VPN, it actually does make sense to get WoW Percents Plus because if you they put drag race in other countries on WoW% Plus, so you could put your location as the UK and you can watch US Drag Race. Um but uh I feel like we I feel like I did that one year when I I don't don't remember remember why, but it's um yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:42

I mean I'm looking forward to like listen, I like I like drag race, but I not to hard pivot, but um I watched Apex, which is the new movie on Netflix with um Charlize Theron and uh Taryn Egerton. Egerton Egerton. Um that was really good.

SPEAKER_02 43:00

Let me look this up. Apex?

SPEAKER_00 43:02

Yes, you said you said you said it's a film? It's a film on Netflix.

SPEAKER_02 43:06

Apex. Oh, a mountain climb. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 43:09

Yeah, so basically she survive. Yes, so she's like an explorer, and she's like climbing mountains and exploring jungles and doing all this like crazy shit by herself, and then she becomes like the next ritualistic prey. Yes, she becomes the prey of Terran Egerton, and it's it's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 43:29

How do I become the prey of Terran Eggerton?

SPEAKER_00 43:31

I know, and he's like unfortunately very hot.

SPEAKER_02 43:33

So I'm just like how do I sign up to be the prey? And you know, we saw him in Rocket Man. That one that one's got a little sweetness to him.

SPEAKER_00 43:40

Uh-huh. Uh huh.

SPEAKER_02 43:41

Um, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 43:42

But yeah, so that's a good movie. Um, very action filled.

SPEAKER_02 43:45

He's starring in a movie. I can't remember what it's called. And like, I'm not saying this is it's wrong, but the concept of this movie was crazy. It literally says it's called the movie's called Everybody Wants to Fuck Me. Oh literally, it's an original razor sharp dark comedy set and set in the world. Of modern dating in London in which everyone wants to have sex with the same man.

SPEAKER_00 44:03

Wow. And it's and it's and it's him. And it's him.

SPEAKER_02 44:06

And you know what though?

SPEAKER_00 44:07

I mean, he's yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:08

I get it.

SPEAKER_00 44:09

I get it.

SPEAKER_02 44:10

I feel like that's a hard part to cast. Yeah. Who is somebody that everybody wants to fuck?

SPEAKER_00 44:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:15

You know what? And they did kind of eat with that one.

SPEAKER_00 44:17

I mean, it could be like Pedro Pascal.

SPEAKER_02 44:20

That's true. Although don't get me started.

SPEAKER_00 44:22

I know. I know your feelings.

SPEAKER_02 44:23

Don't get me started on Pedro again. I love Pedro. I know your thoughts. I support Pedro. Uh-huh. I just think, Mama, that's a faggot. Yeah. I just, I just don't need that to be stated again.

SPEAKER_01 44:32

Yeah. Um, okay. Anything else? No. I think that's it. Okay, we'll take a break and we'll come right back. All right.

SPEAKER_02 44:53

And we're back.

SPEAKER_00 44:56

Um, so now we are going to go into our titular segment. Mary, did you know where we bring up something that might be new information or might be something we just want to talk about? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:08

So I just thought it might be in real time, but sorry, you go.

SPEAKER_00 45:11

Okay. Yeah, I'll go first. Um, Mary, did you know that Broadway actors are now speaking out more and more when there's audience disruptions? Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02 45:20

We're seeing it.

SPEAKER_00 45:21

And I wanna I wanna get your take on it because I have my own personal thoughts. Yeah. Um, and I just I'm interested to hear other people's opinions on this. Um, because I'm seeing a lot in like the comments, because recently the the girl from the pit who's in uh just in time, this is now the second time where she's like called out during the show a like audience disruptive behavior or someone like saying something they're like calling her Santos, yes, like yes, which you know is is wrong. Like any audience disruption is wrong. Um, but I think it's interesting when actors like basically stop the show and reprimand audience members in front of everyone. Um I think if you are doing so here let's here's my personal take. I think any audience call-out, any audience disruption is wrong and should be handled. I don't think it's the actor's job to do so. I agree. And I also think that the actors shouldn't. That might be a hot take, but like I think it's there's something to be said for every every actor and every performer and everyone involved in a production is absolutely allowed to feel the way they feel, and if it upsets them, it upsets them, you know what I mean. Um but I think to stop a show and you know, like it my personal opinion, if that ever happened to me and it has happened when I'm on stage, it's not my job to to reprimand them and make an example of them and you know teet have that be a teachable moment. That should be up to the the ushers and the house management staff. And you know, like there are people whose job that falls under. Yeah. So I always think it's interesting when performers stop the break character, stop the show, yell at someone. Um, it happens a lot when people are filming too, which don't even get me started on bootlegs because performers say they hate bootlegs and then they're the first one to share it and they'll they have a good one of themselves, and I'm like, you're so hypocritical, so don't even get me started on board.

SPEAKER_02 47:31

Also, like like some stuff wouldn't we wouldn't know about some shows without bootlegs. Like it's like it's correct.

SPEAKER_00 47:37

It's it's bringing it's preservation, it is, and you know, not everyone can afford to go to New York City and see a Broadway show. So if someone in you know Idaho, some little gay boy wants to watch a slime tutorial, he can let him feel his juz.

SPEAKER_02 47:52

Feel his juzge. I told you I used to like order them online for some sketchy man. Yeah, um, the only thing I've ever seen someone do that didn't that didn't bother me because I I agree agree with you. Um I have seen, I feel like a clip of someone, I forget who it was, that someone it was like yelling at them and they just stopped talking. They just like stopped the action, they were like looking at the other person on stage and didn't really break character, and then like the person eventually just like stopped and then they continued. Yeah, it's you can't do that for everything, and of course you can't guarantee the person's gonna stop. But I was like, okay, well, at least you stayed in the scene and you made it clear maybe you maybe you really made it clear to house management. Yes. That something needed to be. Something needs somebody needs to step in. Something needed to be done.

SPEAKER_00 48:32

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 48:33

Um, because I I agree, I think that that's the job of house management staff, and it's hard, particularly in smaller theaters, to like to stop that. You know, but when it's happened occasionally at musical fair, we'd get um I remember specifically during um Peter and the Starcatcher, they opened the second act all in like mermaid outfits, and like there was nothing revealing, but it was like the men were shirtless wearing like skirts and little seashells, and people like kept taking pictures. And so that was a thing where we would like go in and like I would just stand at the back for that number and just like check to make sure that they like people weren't. Yeah. Um, but like that's that's I'm they're about to do a revival of the full Monty on Broadway, so I'm like, they're gonna be locking those phones up. Yeah. Because no, no actor is gonna be sh like swinging their schlong around if they think that there might be somebody, although that always comes out anyway. Um that's how we know what Jesse Williams' dick looks like. Um and it's lovely. Uh anyway, um, but you know, I'm I'm in agreement with you. I just don't think I mean there's like moments like the Patty, the Patty Gypsy moment is so funny. And you know what the T behind that is? It was a like reporter from the New York Times that was there to take pictures. I'm I'm dead. She met the reporter a couple years later, I think, when she was doing another musical and they have a picture on stage together, and she's just like smiling because she's like, You're the I you screamed at me. Wow. You heard the announcement at intermission. Who do you think you are? It's crazy. It's crazy. And that's referenced in Pure Glitter. Yeah. Yeah, I don't really love it. I will be vague in this. I've watched it happen a couple times in Buffalo, uh, and I didn't think um any of them were particularly handled well either. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 50:11

And it's it's a tough situation because, like, like you said, there's no right way to handle it because you know, uh if it's a disruption, it's a disruption and it affects everyone, especially the people on stage, you know, who are trying to tell the story and do their job. And if you know, if nothing is being done about it, of course there comes a point where the actor feels if they feel the need to put an end to it, then they will. But I I think that should not be the first line of defense. No, you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_02 50:42

Your first instinct should not be to stop and yell.

SPEAKER_00 50:44

Yes, yeah, yeah. Um okay. Well, but yeah, so that's that's that's my thought on that.

SPEAKER_02 50:51

I listen, I support you also. Wait, to wrap up another thing. Did you see? And again, much love to her, but did you see that Megan Lee Stallion is leaving Moulin Rouge early now because of her personal drama? Yeah. I'm not saying that that's not real. I'm just saying, like, I when I thought I saw she was leaving, I was like, okay, but like you only got like two weeks left of her like a month run. So what was the personal drama? Like her like like major, like her like MBA boyfriend, like very publicly was like fooling around on her. Oh my goodness. Yeah. So anyway, um, my Mary, did you know, is Mary. Did you know that Spirit Airlines has closed effective immediately? Yes. It's crazy. That is wild. Because like now, all of the other airlines are like price gouging folks because they and I guess that they like it was so sudden, like people are just stranded.

SPEAKER_00 51:41

Yeah. Like flights canceled.

SPEAKER_02 51:43

And like there's no one at the help desks. Yeah, no one's getting paid anymore, so you quite literally have nothing, you can't do anything.

SPEAKER_00 51:49

Yeah, you just have to like wait for the refund to happen.

SPEAKER_02 51:51

One of the one of the only good jokes on SNL last night was on weekend update. They were like, you know, Spirit has like ceased all operations, including like nobody manning any of their desks. Spirit in a statement said they were uh proud to continue their same level of customer service. That's funny. It but they said, listen, not to get too real right now. Do you know what's the reason they claimed? Price of fuel. Wow. If for they for them to operate as a budget airline, yeah, they're always sort of teetering right at their margin.

SPEAKER_00 52:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:21

And something like fuel going up as much as it is, it made it they couldn't they couldn't operate anymore.

SPEAKER_00 52:26

Yeah, otherwise they would have to jack up their prices. Right.

SPEAKER_02 52:29

And then, you know, people probably go with them because they're more affordable or you know, they tried to merge with JetBlue uh about a couple of years ago, and the government said no, because um they there aren't that many airlines. So they were trying again, and that's trying to protect consumers, being like you offer a reduced fare, and jet blue also kind of is uh a cheaper airline. Like the two of you coming together, you're eliminating that option for consumers. Right. But then they file for bankruptcy. Yeah. Um, and they've been dealing with that since. But it's um it's crazy to just like stop flights.

SPEAKER_00 53:02

I know, and it's crazy because I saw Delta like post something that was like, you know, like for the next week or two, we're gonna lower our prices, you know, to accommodate all the customers that need travel, you know, and everyone is like responding, showing screenshots of like how much it is, how much it is, and it's like they're not cheap. No, they're not cheap flights.

SPEAKER_02 53:22

No, and also I bet you I bet you if you maybe call, you can end up with something, but though I can't imagine the wait time right now to call for any I can imagine being stuck somewhere. Yeah. That's I mean, I've never flown spirit myself, but I've flown Ryanair in in Europe, which is basically Spirit. Yeah. So I I understand the I mean again, it's basically like their their sort of plan was like you're it was a sky bus. Yeah, it was like this is not a luxury experience. Yes. Do you need to get from point A to point to point B? Right. Here you go. Yep. So Yeah. That's wild. Yeah, I completely forgot about that until as you for some reason you were speaking earlier, and I was like, spirit closed down. I just didn't I didn't realize it was like so it was like right now.

SPEAKER_00 54:04

Overnight, overnight. I wonder, were like, was there any warning or no?

SPEAKER_02 54:08

I don't think I mean probably internally, but of course, but like also like the pilots. You know what? I do wonder. I know I know someone who was a spirit pilot, and I just saw that he it's a a friend of um He said looking for work. Well, no, he started he just started working for a different company. I wonder, not that he uh did he know, but I wonder if there were signs internally. I'm sure there were I wonder if there were just internal signs that like it you like might be a good time to hop out of here. Yeah, because it's not it's not going so well.

SPEAKER_00 54:35

Oof, that's tough. That's crazy. Well, we are flying, we're flying jet blue. And I'm flying Delta when I go to Texas.

SPEAKER_02 54:44

Oh, nice. Delta. Well, you're a Delta Diva.

SPEAKER_00 54:46

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 54:47

There was we won a direct flight to Miami, so that's why we went with Jet Blue. It's not my like preferred airline. Right. Um, okay.

SPEAKER_00 54:55

All right.

SPEAKER_02 54:55

I think that's it.

SPEAKER_00 54:56

So we will talk to you next week.

SPEAKER_02 54:59

For our five finale, our season finale episode.

SPEAKER_01 55:04

Goodbye. Bye.