{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"startTime":73.63,"endTime":75.47,"body":"3 million pages of evidence."},{"startTime":76.27,"endTime":78.66999999999999,"body":"Thousands of unsealed flight logs."},{"startTime":79.14999999999999,"endTime":84.03,"body":"Millions of data points, names, themes and timelines connected."},{"startTime":84.83,"endTime":88.91,"body":"You are listening to the Epstein Files, the world's first"},{"startTime":89.07,"endTime":94.14999999999999,"body":"AI native investigation into the case that traditional journalism simply"},{"startTime":94.14999999999999,"endTime":95.22999999999999,"body":"could not handle."},{"startTime":99.71,"endTime":101.22999999999999,"body":"Welcome back to the Epstein Files."},{"startTime":101.22999999999999,"endTime":103.75,"body":"Last time we walked through the COVID up and tested"},{"startTime":103.75,"endTime":106.42999999999999,"body":"what the records could actually prove without speculation."},{"startTime":106.82999999999998,"endTime":109.22999999999999,"body":"Today, we are examining the scientists and mapping what the"},{"startTime":109.22999999999999,"endTime":113.47,"body":"documents show about actors, timeline decisions and institutional response."},{"startTime":114.03,"endTime":116.87,"body":"As always, every document and source we reference is available"},{"startTime":116.87,"endTime":118.66999999999999,"body":"at Epstein Files FM."},{"startTime":119.14999999999999,"endTime":122.27,"body":"So the first record is a 2019 MIT internal review"},{"startTime":122.59,"endTime":127.47,"body":"confirming Jeffrey Epstein donated $9.1 million to the institution, including"},{"startTime":127.63,"endTime":128.98499999999999,"body":"700,000 DOL."},{"startTime":129.128,"endTime":131.76999999999998,"body":"$136,000 contributed after his 2006 arrest."},{"startTime":132.17,"endTime":134.29,"body":"That internal review is the 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very"},{"startTime":374.83000000000004,"endTime":375.63,"body":"explicitly."},{"startTime":375.78999999999996,"endTime":380.18999999999994,"body":"For General Media Lab email, please use joyedia meeting."},{"startTime":380.51,"endTime":384.05999999999995,"body":"Edu joydia meetme.edu."},{"startTime":384.22,"endTime":387.98,"body":"that single instruction is the key in any standard institutional"},{"startTime":387.98,"endTime":388.78,"body":"development process."},{"startTime":388.93999999999994,"endTime":392.22,"body":"A major donor is directed to a generic email address,"},{"startTime":392.46000000000004,"endTime":396.02,"body":"something like development at or giving, or they're handled by"},{"startTime":396.02,"endTime":399.38,"body":"a specific fundraising officer whose entire job is to vet"},{"startTime":399.38,"endTime":399.82000000000005,"body":"the money."},{"startTime":400.05999999999995,"endTime":402.1,"body":"But here the instruction is to go straight to 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025-12-2048."},{"startTime":450.75,"endTime":453.78999999999996,"body":"It's a crucial piece of evidence when you're assessing their"},{"startTime":453.78999999999996,"endTime":455.07000000000005,"body":"awareness of the risk."},{"startTime":455.15,"endTime":457.83000000000004,"body":"The email discusses how a donation is listed on the"},{"startTime":457.83000000000004,"endTime":458.75,"body":"MIT website."},{"startTime":459.07000000000005,"endTime":461.11,"body":"This is where we see what you might call knowledge"},{"startTime":461.11,"endTime":464.35,"body":"of guilt, or at the very least, knowledge of impropriety."},{"startTime":464.89,"endTime":467.61,"body":"The direct quote from the email is site now says"},{"startTime":467.61,"endTime":470.01,"body":"MIT rather than MIT Media Lab."},{"startTime":470.16999999999996,"endTime":471.61,"body":"Let's decode the logic there."},{"startTime":471.61,"endTime":474.33000000000004,"body":"Why would a donor or the person receiving the funds"},{"startTime":474.40999999999997,"endTime":478.13,"body":"want a donation listed as from MIT in general rather"},{"startTime":478.13,"endTime":480.09000000000003,"body":"than the specific Media lab?"},{"startTime":480.09000000000003,"endTime":481.28999999999996,"body":"It's counterintuitive."},{"startTime":481.28999999999996,"endTime":482.45000000000005,"body":"Usually you want the credit."},{"startTime":482.45000000000005,"endTime":484.13,"body":"If I give money to the Media Lab, I want"},{"startTime":484.13,"endTime":485.40999999999997,"body":"the Media Lab to acknowledge it."},{"startTime":485.40999999999997,"endTime":488.45000000000005,"body":"I want my name associated with the futuristic tech with"},{"startTime":488.45000000000005,"endTime":489.68999999999994,"body":"the specific projects."},{"startTime":490.01,"endTime":490.80999999999995,"body":"Exactly."},{"startTime":490.80999999999995,"endTime":493.53,"body":"Specificity is the entire goal of philanthropy."},{"startTime":493.61,"endTime":496.48,"body":"You want your name on the specific lab, the specific,"},{"startTime":496.54999999999995,"endTime":498.71000000000004,"body":"specific research chair, the specific project."},{"startTime":499.18999999999994,"endTime":500.95000000000005,"body":"But here they're doing the complete opposite."},{"startTime":500.95000000000005,"endTime":502.63,"body":"They are diluting the attribution."},{"startTime":502.87,"endTime":506.07000000000005,"body":"MIT is a massive general ledger."},{"startTime":506.07000000000005,"endTime":508.30999999999995,"body":"It's a multi billion dollar entity."},{"startTime":508.54999999999995,"endTime":511.63,"body":"A donation listed under MIT is a drop in the"},{"startTime":511.63,"endTime":512.03,"body":"ocean."},{"startTime":512.03,"endTime":515.15,"body":"It becomes almost anonymous by virtue of the sheer volume"},{"startTime":515.15,"endTime":516.15,"body":"of 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logistics."},{"startTime":571.91,"endTime":574.59,"body":"This wasn't a distant donor just mailing in checks."},{"startTime":574.59,"endTime":576.91,"body":"No, this was an operational relationship."},{"startTime":576.91,"endTime":578.23,"body":"It required maintenance."},{"startTime":578.39,"endTime":581.35,"body":"The documents show a surprisingly high frequency of contact."},{"startTime":582.1800000000001,"endTime":584.78,"body":"When you look at the pinpoint database locational data, which"},{"startTime":584.78,"endTime":587.66,"body":"we'll get to, the volume of interaction is not consistent"},{"startTime":587.66,"endTime":588.74,"body":"with a passive donor."},{"startTime":588.74,"endTime":590.74,"body":"It's consistent with an active participant."},{"startTime":590.74,"endTime":593.3000000000001,"body":"Let's move to that block two, the scientists."},{"startTime":593.46,"endTime":595.3000000000001,"body":"We need to name the actors involved here."},{"startTime":595.46,"endTime":598.86,"body":"The documents link Epstein to some very specific, very high"},{"startTime":598.86,"endTime":600.0600000000001,"body":"profile names in science."},{"startTime":600.0600000000001,"endTime":602.62,"body":"These emails aren't just administrative back and forths."},{"startTime":602.62,"endTime":604.9,"body":"They involve key figures in the scientific community."},{"startTime":604.98,"endTime":607.02,"body":"The first one that stands out is Ed Boyden."},{"startTime":607.02,"endTime":609.72,"body":"Ed Boyden is a titan in his field, Associate professor"},{"startTime":609.72,"endTime":612.64,"body":"at both the MIT Media Lab and the McGovern Institute"},{"startTime":612.64,"endTime":614.12,"body":"for Neurobiological Research."},{"startTime":614.52,"endTime":617.48,"body":"And to understand why Epstein was so interested in him,"},{"startTime":617.72,"endTime":620.0400000000001,"body":"you have to understand what Boyden actually does."},{"startTime":620.12,"endTime":622.76,"body":"He's famous for a field called optogenetics."},{"startTime":622.76,"endTime":623.9200000000001,"body":"Can you explain that for us?"},{"startTime":623.9200000000001,"endTime":625.159,"body":"What is optogenetics?"},{"startTime":625.16,"endTime":627.84,"body":"In the simplest terms, it is the technology of using"},{"startTime":627.84,"endTime":629.72,"body":"light to control neurons in the brain."},{"startTime":630.0400000000001,"endTime":633.16,"body":"You genetically modify a neuron so that it becomes sensitive"},{"startTime":633.16,"endTime":636.12,"body":"to light, and then you can literally turn that neuron"},{"startTime":636.12,"endTime":637.72,"body":"on or off with a laser."},{"startTime":638.0500000000001,"endTime":641.49,"body":"It allows for incredibly precise control of brain function."},{"startTime":641.49,"endTime":643.97,"body":"It sounds like science fiction, but it's real."},{"startTime":644.0500000000001,"endTime":646.0500000000001,"body":"And you can see why it would appeal to Epstein."},{"startTime":646.13,"endTime":649.57,"body":"Controlling the brain with lasers, it fits a certain psychological"},{"startTime":649.57,"endTime":650.0500000000001,"body":"profile."},{"startTime":650.13,"endTime":651.89,"body":"It fits his profile perfectly."},{"startTime":652.21,"endTime":656.01,"body":"Epstein was obsessed with this idea of transhumanism, the notion"},{"startTime":656.01,"endTime":658.13,"body":"of improving the human species through technology."},{"startTime":658.69,"endTime":662.45,"body":"He was interested in genetics and AI and life extension."},{"startTime":662.77,"endTime":665.01,"body":"He seemed to view the human body as a piece"},{"startTime":665.01,"endTime":667.33,"body":"of hardware that could be hacked or upgraded."},{"startTime":667.5500000000001,"endTime":670.03,"body":"And Ed Boyden was working on the absolute cutting edge"},{"startTime":670.03,"endTime":671.87,"body":"of that biological interface."},{"startTime":672.11,"endTime":674.83,"body":"The fact that Epstein is in communication with him places"},{"startTime":674.83,"endTime":678.03,"body":"Epstein right in the center of that futuristic and frankly,"},{"startTime":678.03,"endTime":679.3100000000001,"body":"very controversial research."},{"startTime":679.5500000000001,"endTime":687.15,"body":"We have document EFT 024-92126 and EFT ES 024-90334, which"},{"startTime":687.15,"endTime":690.51,"body":"show multiple email headers linking Epstein directly to Boyden."},{"startTime":690.6700000000001,"endTime":693.7900000000001,"body":"But there's one specific email that completely changes the context"},{"startTime":693.7900000000001,"endTime":694.6700000000001,"body":"of their relationship."},{"startTime":695.15,"endTime":699.23,"body":"That's document EFT024-873008."},{"startTime":699.39,"endTime":702.35,"body":"In this exchange, we see the phrase we are buds."},{"startTime":702.35,"endTime":703.3100000000001,"body":"We are buds."},{"startTime":703.47,"endTime":704.07,"body":"Three words."},{"startTime":704.07,"endTime":705.39,"body":"I want to pause on those three words."},{"startTime":705.39,"endTime":707.3100000000001,"body":"That is not the language of a financial transaction."},{"startTime":707.3100000000001,"endTime":708.6700000000001,"body":"That is a language of peerage."},{"startTime":708.83,"endTime":711.87,"body":"And for context, based on the header analysis of ETA"},{"startTime":711.87,"endTime":716.63,"body":"02487308, this appears to be Joy Ito writing to Epstein,"},{"startTime":716.63,"endTime":717.95,"body":"or possibly vice versa."},{"startTime":718.11,"endTime":721.15,"body":"The email threading can be complex, but the BUDS reference"},{"startTime":721.15,"endTime":723.23,"body":"is clearly used to describe the relationship."},{"startTime":723.23,"endTime":725.19,"body":"It solidifies that inner circle status."},{"startTime":725.19,"endTime":728.45,"body":"It moves the relationship transactional donor who writes a check"},{"startTime":728.45,"endTime":730.73,"body":"and gets a tax write off to social peer."},{"startTime":730.89,"endTime":733.97,"body":"It implies a social bond that transcends the normal donor"},{"startTime":733.97,"endTime":735.13,"body":"recipient dynamic."},{"startTime":735.13,"endTime":736.9300000000001,"body":"Why does that matter from a forensic standpoint?"},{"startTime":736.9300000000001,"endTime":740.01,"body":"Because social peerage was the real currency Epstein was after."},{"startTime":740.01,"endTime":741.69,"body":"He didn't just want to fund science."},{"startTime":741.69,"endTime":743.8100000000001,"body":"He wanted to be seen as a scientist, or at"},{"startTime":743.8100000000001,"endTime":745.53,"body":"the very least, as a peer of scientists."},{"startTime":745.69,"endTime":747.2900000000001,"body":"He wanted a seat at the table."},{"startTime":747.2900000000001,"endTime":750.57,"body":"By securing that buddy status with men like IDO and"},{"startTime":750.73,"endTime":754.39,"body":"by extension Boyden, he laundered his reputation."},{"startTime":754.39,"endTime":757.4300000000001,"body":"He wasn't Jeffrey Epstein, convicted sex offender anymore."},{"startTime":757.4300000000001,"endTime":759.95,"body":"In those circles, he was Jeff, the guy who hangs"},{"startTime":759.95,"endTime":761.87,"body":"out with Joy Ito and Ed Boyden."},{"startTime":761.87,"endTime":764.39,"body":"This aspiration to be part of the intellectual elite."},{"startTime":764.39,"endTime":770.39,"body":"It's further corroborated by another document, EFTA 023-48399."},{"startTime":770.5500000000001,"endTime":774.5500000000001,"body":"The subject line is FWD celebrating Marvin Minsky."},{"startTime":774.5500000000001,"endTime":777.51,"body":"The date is February 26, 2016."},{"startTime":777.59,"endTime":779.99,"body":"Marvin Minsky, 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cash."},{"startTime":1059.6499999999999,"endTime":1062.81,"body":"And that kind of active participation makes the we didn't"},{"startTime":1062.81,"endTime":1065.4099999999999,"body":"know defense much, much harder to maintain."},{"startTime":1065.6499999999999,"endTime":1069.09,"body":"You don't take staffing requests or introduction orders from a"},{"startTime":1069.09,"endTime":1070.53,"body":"donor you're trying to keep at arm's length."},{"startTime":1070.53,"endTime":1073.01,"body":"You only take those kinds of requests from a partner."},{"startTime":1073.33,"endTime":1076.04,"body":"Now we have to address the other giant in Cambridge,"},{"startTime":1076.67,"endTime":1079.6299999999999,"body":"block 4 Harvard connections."},{"startTime":1079.87,"endTime":1082.3899999999999,"body":"And this is where we need to be extremely precise"},{"startTime":1082.3899999999999,"endTime":1085.07,"body":"about what the documents in this specific tranche tell 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direct"},{"startTime":1107.51,"endTime":1109.769,"body":"administration administrative emails for Harvard that we see in the"},{"startTime":1109.769,"endTime":1110.809,"body":"ESCU2 series."},{"startTime":1110.889,"endTime":1112.809,"body":"That is a significant document gap."},{"startTime":1112.809,"endTime":1115.2489999999998,"body":"And let's be clear, it does not mean the relationship"},{"startTime":1115.2489999999998,"endTime":1115.9289999999999,"body":"didn't exist."},{"startTime":1116.1689999999999,"endTime":1118.529,"body":"We know from the general Cambridge data that he was"},{"startTime":1118.529,"endTime":1119.769,"body":"in the area frequently."},{"startTime":1120.1689999999999,"endTime":1122.9289999999999,"body":"But the granular day to day email traffic."},{"startTime":1122.9289999999999,"endTime":1124.889,"body":"Yeah, the kind of thing we see with Joy Ito"},{"startTime":1124.889,"endTime":1128.4489999999998,"body":"at mit, it's just not present in this specific 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the"},{"startTime":1316.81,"endTime":1320.09,"body":"origins of the universe with Nobel laureates, you aren't a"},{"startTime":1320.09,"endTime":1321.49,"body":"convicted sex defender anymore."},{"startTime":1321.49,"endTime":1324.33,"body":"You are a patron of the arts and sciences, a"},{"startTime":1324.33,"endTime":1325.6599999999999,"body":"modern day Medici."},{"startTime":1325.73,"endTime":1328.37,"body":"And we see a pattern in the emails of Epstein"},{"startTime":1328.4499999999998,"endTime":1334.1299999999999,"body":"checking in like in document EFT 02243466 and reacting to"},{"startTime":1334.1299999999999,"endTime":1337.01,"body":"press specifically about a 60 minute segment."},{"startTime":1337.25,"endTime":1340.6499999999999,"body":"The email reads, Loved the 60 minute segment on the"},{"startTime":1340.6499999999999,"endTime":1341.81,"body":"MIT Media Lab."},{"startTime":1342.29,"endTime":1343.33,"body":"This is feedback."},{"startTime":1343.33,"endTime":1345.9699999999998,"body":"It's a feedback loop between the donor and the institution"},{"startTime":1345.9699999999998,"endTime":1346.57,"body":"he's funding."},{"startTime":1346.57,"endTime":1348.01,"body":"It shows he was watching closely."},{"startTime":1348.01,"endTime":1351.01,"body":"It shows they were watching together, the scientists, NATO, as"},{"startTime":1351.01,"endTime":1352.9299999999998,"body":"they value the coverage, they value the buzz."},{"startTime":1353.09,"endTime":1356.29,"body":"And Epstein is consuming the media narrative of the lab"},{"startTime":1356.29,"endTime":1357.1699999999998,"body":"that he is bank."},{"startTime":1357.87,"endTime":1360.27,"body":"It shows a shared interest in the public profile of"},{"startTime":1360.27,"endTime":1361.07,"body":"the institution."},{"startTime":1361.07,"endTime":1364.03,"body":"They were in a sense partners in brand building, which"},{"startTime":1364.03,"endTime":1365.79,"body":"leads us directly into Block 6."},{"startTime":1365.87,"endTime":1366.75,"body":"What did they know?"},{"startTime":1367.07,"endTime":1370.6299999999999,"body":"This is about the institutional response, the ignorance defense, the"},{"startTime":1370.6299999999999,"endTime":1372.59,"body":"idea that they just didn't realize who he was."},{"startTime":1372.75,"endTime":1375.3899999999999,"body":"It completely collapses when you look at the evidence of"},{"startTime":1375.3899999999999,"endTime":1376.23,"body":"their own monitoring."},{"startTime":1376.23,"endTime":1380.83,"body":"Document Efta 023-43128 is the smoking gun for this."},{"startTime":1380.9099999999999,"endTime":1383.07,"body":"The subject line is FWD."},{"startTime":1383.07,"endTime":1385.31,"body":"Google alert MIT Media Lab."},{"startTime":1385.81,"endTime":1388.1299999999999,"body":"The date is September 16, 2014."},{"startTime":1388.4499999999998,"endTime":1392.37,"body":"Joyito is forwarding Google alerts about his own lab."},{"startTime":1392.4499999999998,"endTime":1393.37,"body":"Think about what that means."},{"startTime":1393.37,"endTime":1394.9299999999998,"body":"They were actively monitoring the press."},{"startTime":1394.9299999999998,"endTime":1396.85,"body":"You don't set up Google Alerts for things you aren't"},{"startTime":1396.85,"endTime":1398.37,"body":"worried about, or at the very least for things you"},{"startTime":1398.37,"endTime":1399.49,"body":"aren't actively managing."},{"startTime":1399.57,"endTime":1402.37,"body":"They were hyper aware of the Media Lab's public image."},{"startTime":1402.37,"endTime":1406.1299999999999,"body":"And by 2014 Epstein was already a convicted sex offender."},{"startTime":1406.1299999999999,"endTime":1407.81,"body":"His reputation was radioactive."},{"startTime":1408.2099999999998,"endTime":1410.53,"body":"Any association with him carried an immense risk."},{"startTime":1410.61,"endTime":1412.81,"body":"The fact that they are monitoring the press about the"},{"startTime":1412.81,"endTime":1415.1699999999998,"body":"lab suggests they are extremely vigilant about how the lab"},{"startTime":1415.1699999999998,"endTime":1416.6499999999999,"body":"is perceived by the outside world."},{"startTime":1416.6499999999999,"endTime":1417.24,"body":"Exactly."},{"startTime":1417.31,"endTime":1420.75,"body":"And then you have document Efta 023-38478."},{"startTime":1420.9099999999999,"endTime":1422.99,"body":"Want to do a press conference with me right off?"},{"startTime":1423.07,"endTime":1426.1499999999999,"body":"This indicates a high level concern about media engagement in"},{"startTime":1426.1499999999999,"endTime":1426.75,"body":"public relations."},{"startTime":1427.1499999999999,"endTime":1429.7099999999998,"body":"Now compare that anxiety with the we are Buds email."},{"startTime":1429.87,"endTime":1432.07,"body":"On the one hand, privately, they are friends Come to"},{"startTime":1432.07,"endTime":1432.59,"body":"my turf."},{"startTime":1432.59,"endTime":1435.07,"body":"On the other hand, publicly, they are managing press conferences"},{"startTime":1435.07,"endTime":1437.99,"body":"and scrubbing their own website to say MIT instead of"},{"startTime":1437.99,"endTime":1438.59,"body":"Media Lab."},{"startTime":1438.75,"endTime":1440.6699999999998,"body":"The inconsistency is the evidence."},{"startTime":1440.75,"endTime":1442.1899999999998,"body":"It's evidence of calculation."},{"startTime":1442.4299999999998,"endTime":1443.9499999999998,"body":"It proves they were not naive."},{"startTime":1444.48,"endTime":1446.08,"body":"They knew the reputation cost."},{"startTime":1446.24,"endTime":1447.1999999999998,"body":"They did the math."},{"startTime":1447.52,"endTime":1451.9599999999998,"body":"The decision to take the money, especially that $736,000 post"},{"startTime":1451.9599999999998,"endTime":1453.8,"body":"conviction, was not an accident."},{"startTime":1453.8,"endTime":1455.1999999999998,"body":"It was a calculated risk."},{"startTime":1455.1999999999998,"endTime":1458.32,"body":"They believed the money was worth the potential PR hit,"},{"startTime":1458.32,"endTime":1460.1599999999999,"body":"provided they could manage the optics."},{"startTime":1460.48,"endTime":1462.08,"body":"They thought they could contain it."},{"startTime":1462.1599999999999,"endTime":1464.0,"body":"They thought they were smarter than the story."},{"startTime":1464.1599999999999,"endTime":1465.8799999999999,"body":"They thought they could take the money in the dark"},{"startTime":1465.8799999999999,"endTime":1467.4399999999998,"body":"and keep their reputation in the light."},{"startTime":1467.84,"endTime":1470.32,"body":"Now, before we synthesize all this, we have to address"},{"startTime":1470.32,"endTime":1472.51,"body":"block 7, source integrity."},{"startTime":1472.99,"endTime":1475.07,"body":"We have a lot of documents in the source list"},{"startTime":1475.07,"endTime":1477.4299999999998,"body":"that have sensational titles."},{"startTime":1477.4299999999998,"endTime":1482.03,"body":"Things like Elon Satanic Musk or Bill Gates Crimes."},{"startTime":1482.03,"endTime":1483.35,"body":"We need to be very clear here."},{"startTime":1483.35,"endTime":1486.35,"body":"As forensic auditors, we look for primary documentation."},{"startTime":1486.51,"endTime":1488.9099999999999,"body":"Bank transfers, emails, flight logs."},{"startTime":1488.9099999999999,"endTime":1490.31,"body":"We do not deal in rumor."},{"startTime":1490.31,"endTime":1494.3899999999999,"body":"We have reviewed the file headers regarding these satanic claims"},{"startTime":1494.3899999999999,"endTime":1497.23,"body":"and the population control narratives that are found in the"},{"startTime":1497.23,"endTime":1498.12,"body":"broader source dump."},{"startTime":1498.27,"endTime":1500.6699999999998,"body":"And the verdict is simple, unproven."},{"startTime":1500.75,"endTime":1502.03,"body":"We have to be disciplined."},{"startTime":1502.1899999999998,"endTime":1505.4699999999998,"body":"There is no documentation for these claims in the financial"},{"startTime":1505.7099999999998,"endTime":1509.51,"body":"or communication logs of the MIT Media Lab or the"},{"startTime":1509.51,"endTime":1512.59,"body":"Epstein Estate that are contained within this data set."},{"startTime":1512.83,"endTime":1515.9499999999998,"body":"We see emails about buds and turf and donations."},{"startTime":1516.1899999999998,"endTime":1519.23,"body":"We do not see emails about satanic rituals."},{"startTime":1519.6299999999999,"endTime":1523.07,"body":"These sources appear to be external compilations or conspiracy theories"},{"startTime":1523.1499999999999,"endTime":1525.9099999999999,"body":"that are not corroborated by the primary evidence in the"},{"startTime":1525.9099999999999,"endTime":1528.73,"body":"EFTA series or the pinpoint database."},{"startTime":1528.73,"endTime":1530.73,"body":"They remain outside the forensic record."},{"startTime":1530.9699999999998,"endTime":1533.09,"body":"If we cannot prove it with a document, we do"},{"startTime":1533.09,"endTime":1533.9699999999998,"body":"not say it happened."},{"startTime":1533.9699999999998,"endTime":1535.05,"body":"It's as simple as that."},{"startTime":1535.29,"endTime":1537.05,"body":"There is also the intelligence question."},{"startTime":1537.53,"endTime":1541.4499999999998,"body":"We see sources like Innovation, Dual Use and Security, which"},{"startTime":1541.4499999999998,"endTime":1543.369,"body":"discusses biological risks."},{"startTime":1543.4499999999998,"endTime":1545.8899999999999,"body":"Some have speculated that this implies the labs were part"},{"startTime":1545.8899999999999,"endTime":1547.2099999999998,"body":"of some intelligence operation."},{"startTime":1547.4499999999998,"endTime":1549.53,"body":"You have to look at the content of that source."},{"startTime":1549.53,"endTime":1552.29,"body":"That document is a textbook or an academic paper on"},{"startTime":1552.29,"endTime":1554.09,"body":"the concept of dual use technology."},{"startTime":1554.57,"endTime":1556.81,"body":"Technologies that can be used for both good and harm,"},{"startTime":1556.81,"endTime":1558.1,"body":"like biotechnology."},{"startTime":1558.34,"endTime":1560.26,"body":"It's an academic discussion about risk."},{"startTime":1560.58,"endTime":1563.1799999999998,"body":"So is there a single email in this tranche linking"},{"startTime":1563.1799999999998,"endTime":1566.86,"body":"Epstein to a specific intelligence operation or a honey trap"},{"startTime":1566.86,"endTime":1567.86,"body":"within these labs?"},{"startTime":1568.1799999999998,"endTime":1571.1399999999999,"body":"No, there is no email in the EFTA chain that"},{"startTime":1571.1399999999999,"endTime":1572.34,"body":"supports that conclusion."},{"startTime":1572.74,"endTime":1575.8999999999999,"body":"So while the academic subject matter itself includes things like"},{"startTime":1575.8999999999999,"endTime":1579.3799999999999,"body":"dual use, the evidence in these files doesn't support the"},{"startTime":1579.3799999999999,"endTime":1582.6599999999999,"body":"idea that the media Lab itself was an intelligence front."},{"startTime":1583.2199999999998,"endTime":1584.34,"body":"Not based on these records."},{"startTime":1584.34,"endTime":1584.62,"body":"No."},{"startTime":1584.62,"endTime":1587.4599999999998,"body":"The records support a narrative of institutional greed."},{"startTime":1587.54,"endTime":1590.74,"body":"They document the exchange of money for access and legitimacy."},{"startTime":1590.98,"endTime":1593.3799999999999,"body":"They do not document intelligence coercion."},{"startTime":1593.86,"endTime":1595.86,"body":"Institutional greed is documented."},{"startTime":1595.86,"endTime":1597.54,"body":"Intelligence coercion is not."},{"startTime":1597.62,"endTime":1600.1799999999998,"body":"We have to follow the money, not the movie plot."},{"startTime":1600.5,"endTime":1601.6999999999998,"body":"So let's synthesize this."},{"startTime":1601.78,"endTime":1604.34,"body":"What is the story the records tell us about the"},{"startTime":1604.34,"endTime":1604.98,"body":"scientists?"},{"startTime":1605.3,"endTime":1607.2199999999998,"body":"The story is one of a transaction."},{"startTime":1607.2199999999998,"endTime":1608.74,"body":"A very clear transaction."},{"startTime":1609.07,"endTime":1610.9099999999999,"body":"The scientists didn't just take the checks."},{"startTime":1610.9099999999999,"endTime":1611.79,"body":"They gave turf."},{"startTime":1612.03,"endTime":1614.79,"body":"They gave physical and social space to a man who"},{"startTime":1614.79,"endTime":1616.75,"body":"had lost a standing in civil society."},{"startTime":1616.83,"endTime":1619.7099999999998,"body":"Epstein traded his cash for their intellectual credibility."},{"startTime":1619.7099999999998,"endTime":1622.35,"body":"And Joiedo acted as the gatekeeper for that trade."},{"startTime":1622.4299999999998,"endTime":1627.31,"body":"Ito managed the optics, MIT versus Media Lab while simultaneously"},{"startTime":1627.31,"endTime":1629.4699999999998,"body":"maintaining the personal relationship buds."},{"startTime":1629.55,"endTime":1631.07,"body":"He tried to have it both ways."},{"startTime":1631.07,"endTime":1633.23,"body":"He tried to build a firewall between the cash and"},{"startTime":1633.23,"endTime":1634.4299999999998,"body":"the conscience of the institution."},{"startTime":1634.87,"endTime":1638.3899999999999,"body":"And the timeline is the final nail in that coffin."},{"startTime":1638.87,"endTime":1642.07,"body":"Donations continued well after the 2008 conviction."},{"startTime":1642.23,"endTime":1645.03,"body":"The Google alerts show they were watching the news cycle."},{"startTime":1645.03,"endTime":1649.51,"body":"The emails from 2013 to 2016 show continued privileged access."},{"startTime":1649.99,"endTime":1653.3899999999999,"body":"The idea that they didn't know or didn't realize the"},{"startTime":1653.3899999999999,"endTime":1656.83,"body":"extent of Epstein's crimes is completely contradicted by their own"},{"startTime":1656.83,"endTime":1659.4299999999998,"body":"obsession with press management and anonymity."},{"startTime":1659.4299999999998,"endTime":1662.32,"body":"The records show the laboratory doors are open, the alerts"},{"startTime":1662.32,"endTime":1664.8799999999999,"body":"were set, the press releases were managed and the checks"},{"startTime":1664.8799999999999,"endTime":1665.32,"body":"cleared."},{"startTime":1665.3999999999999,"endTime":1667.7199999999998,"body":"The scientists had all the data points they needed to"},{"startTime":1667.7199999999998,"endTime":1668.6799999999998,"body":"make a moral decision."},{"startTime":1669.0,"endTime":1671.08,"body":"The ledger shows they chose the money."},{"startTime":1671.32,"endTime":1673.9599999999998,"body":"They calculated the cost of his reputation against the value"},{"startTime":1673.9599999999998,"endTime":1674.76,"body":"of his checkbook."},{"startTime":1674.76,"endTime":1676.36,"body":"And they decided the check tip was heavier."},{"startTime":1676.4399999999998,"endTime":1678.52,"body":"Next time, the lawyers."},{"startTime":1683.6399999999999,"endTime":1686.76,"body":"You have just heard an analysis of the official record."},{"startTime":1687.81,"endTime":1691.49,"body":"Every claim, name and date mentioned in this episode is"},{"startTime":1691.49,"endTime":1693.6499999999999,"body":"backed by primary source documents."},{"startTime":1694.1299999999999,"endTime":1698.2099999999998,"body":"You can view the original files for yourself at Epsteinfiles"},{"startTime":1698.53,"endTime":1699.1699999999998,"body":"fm."},{"startTime":1699.9699999999998,"endTime":1703.01,"body":"If you value this data first approach to journalism."},{"startTime":1703.33,"endTime":1706.49,"body":"Please leave a five star review wherever you're listening right"},{"startTime":1706.49,"endTime":1706.85,"body":"now."},{"startTime":1707.1699999999998,"endTime":1709.4099999999999,"body":"It helps keep this investigation visible."},{"startTime":1709.81,"endTime":1711.25,"body":"We'll see you in the next file."}]}