{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"startTime":73.63,"endTime":75.47,"body":"3 million pages of evidence."},{"startTime":76.27,"endTime":78.66999999999999,"body":"Thousands of unsealed flight logs."},{"startTime":79.14999999999999,"endTime":84.03,"body":"Millions of data points, names, themes and timelines connected."},{"startTime":84.83,"endTime":88.91,"body":"You are listening to the Epstein Files, the world's first"},{"startTime":89.07,"endTime":94.14999999999999,"body":"AI native investigation into the case that traditional journalism simply"},{"startTime":94.14999999999999,"endTime":95.22999999999999,"body":"could not handle."},{"startTime":99.71,"endTime":101.22999999999999,"body":"Welcome back to the Epstein Files."},{"startTime":101.22999999999999,"endTime":104.03,"body":"Last time we walked through August 10, 2019."},{"startTime":104.59,"endTime":107.50999999999999,"body":"Today, we are following the medical examiner through the 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level"},{"speaker":"So if the EMTs arrived at, say, 6","startTime":1253.12,"endTime":1257.84,"body":"officials, including an associate warden, were paying extremely close attention"},{"speaker":"So if the EMTs arrived at, say, 6","startTime":1257.84,"endTime":1258.6399999999999,"body":"to Epstein."},{"speaker":"So if the EMTs arrived at, say, 6","startTime":1258.7199999999998,"endTime":1260.6399999999999,"body":"This is not some forgotten inmate."},{"speaker":"So if the EMTs arrived at, say, 6","startTime":1260.6399999999999,"endTime":1263.32,"body":"This was arguably the most high profile prisoner in the"},{"speaker":"So if the EMTs arrived at, say, 6","startTime":1263.32,"endTime":1265.12,"body":"entire federal system at that moment."},{"speaker":"So if the EMTs arrived at, say, 6","startTime":1265.1999999999998,"endTime":1267.48,"body":"So the argument that, oops, we just forgot to check"},{"speaker":"So if the EMTs arrived at, say, 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files, the missing logs."},{"speaker":"So if the EMTs arrived at, say, 6","startTime":1452.9689999999998,"endTime":1456.61,"body":"The tension here lies between the clean official paper, the"},{"speaker":"So if the EMTs arrived at, say, 6","startTime":1456.61,"endTime":1460.29,"body":"death certificate that simply says suicide, and the messy forensic"},{"speaker":"So if the EMTs arrived at, say, 6","startTime":1460.29,"endTime":1460.81,"body":"reality."},{"speaker":"So if the EMTs arrived at, say, 6","startTime":1461.2099999999998,"endTime":1466.1,"body":"The broken bones, the missing logs, the convenient systemic negligence."},{"speaker":"So if the EMTs arrived at, say, 6","startTime":1466.1799999999998,"endTime":1467.62,"body":"So the medical examiner's report."},{"speaker":"So if the EMTs arrived at, say, 6","startTime":1467.62,"endTime":1470.78,"body":"It gives us a conclusion, but it doesn't solve the"},{"speaker":"So if the EMTs arrived at, say, 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6","startTime":1484.26,"endTime":1485.78,"body":"Or was it by the force of another?"},{"speaker":"So if the EMTs arrived at, say, 6","startTime":1486.02,"endTime":1488.34,"body":"The bone fractures suggest external force."},{"speaker":"So if the EMTs arrived at, say, 6","startTime":1488.57,"endTime":1490.4499999999998,"body":"The prison logs suggest solitude."},{"speaker":"So if the EMTs arrived at, say, 6","startTime":1490.4499999999998,"endTime":1492.49,"body":"Those two things cannot logically coexist."},{"speaker":"So if the EMTs arrived at, say, 6","startTime":1492.6499999999999,"endTime":1495.1299999999999,"body":"One of those records is incomplete, or it's false."},{"speaker":"So if the EMTs arrived at, say, 6","startTime":1495.53,"endTime":1498.49,"body":"And that is what the Epstein files ultimately show us"},{"speaker":"So if the EMTs arrived at, say, 6","startTime":1498.49,"endTime":1499.1299999999999,"body":"time and again."},{"speaker":"So if the EMTs arrived at, say, 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6","startTime":1530.57,"endTime":1532.9699999999998,"body":"The fractures are still there in the record."},{"speaker":"So if the EMTs arrived at, say, 6","startTime":1533.05,"endTime":1534.01,"body":"They haven't gone away."},{"speaker":"So if the EMTs arrived at, say, 6","startTime":1534.4099999999999,"endTime":1537.25,"body":"Next time, we move from the medical examiner's room to"},{"speaker":"So if the EMTs arrived at, say, 6","startTime":1537.25,"endTime":1538.6499999999999,"body":"the hallway outside the cell."},{"speaker":"So if the EMTs arrived at, say, 6","startTime":1538.8899999999999,"endTime":1540.98,"body":"Next time, the guards."},{"speaker":"So if the EMTs arrived at, say, 6","startTime":1546.1799999999998,"endTime":1549.3799999999999,"body":"You have just heard an analysis of the official record."},{"speaker":"So if the EMTs arrived at, say, 6","startTime":1550.26,"endTime":1554.1,"body":"Every claim, name and date mentioned in this episode is"},{"speaker":"So if the 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