{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"startTime":73.63,"endTime":75.47,"body":"3 million pages of evidence."},{"startTime":76.27,"endTime":78.66999999999999,"body":"Thousands of unsealed flight logs."},{"startTime":79.14999999999999,"endTime":84.03,"body":"Millions of data points, names, themes and timelines connected."},{"startTime":84.83,"endTime":88.91,"body":"You are listening to the Epstein Files, the world's first"},{"startTime":89.07,"endTime":94.14999999999999,"body":"AI native investigation into the case that traditional journalism simply"},{"startTime":94.14999999999999,"endTime":95.22999999999999,"body":"could not handle."},{"startTime":99.71,"endTime":101.31,"body":"Welcome back to the Epstein Files."},{"startTime":101.31,"endTime":104.19,"body":"Last time we walked through Victims Compensation Fund."},{"startTime":105.07,"endTime":108.27,"body":"Today we are following civil lawsuits through the documentary record."},{"startTime":108.50999999999999,"endTime":111.87,"body":"So 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normally, you think of a defamation suit as a"},{"startTime":519.18,"endTime":519.5,"body":"shield."},{"startTime":519.66,"endTime":521.9,"body":"Someone says something untrue about you, you sue them to"},{"startTime":521.9,"endTime":522.78,"body":"protect your reputation."},{"startTime":522.78,"endTime":523.58,"body":"You lied about me."},{"startTime":523.58,"endTime":524.14,"body":"I'm suing."},{"startTime":524.22,"endTime":524.62,"body":"Right."},{"startTime":524.7,"endTime":527.539,"body":"But in the Epstein saga, defamation suits were weaponized."},{"startTime":527.539,"endTime":528.9399999999999,"body":"They were turned into swords."},{"startTime":529.02,"endTime":532.3,"body":"They became the primary vehicle for forcing evidence into the"},{"startTime":532.3,"endTime":535.74,"body":"public record, especially when criminal prosecutors were, as you said,"},{"startTime":535.82,"endTime":538.06,"body":"asleep at the wheel or just refusing to act."},{"startTime":538.3,"endTime":539.74,"body":"Walk us through that mechanism."},{"startTime":540.14,"endTime":544.63,"body":"How does suing someone for defamation end up forcing out"},{"startTime":544.63,"endTime":545.79,"body":"evidence of sex trafficking?"},{"startTime":545.79,"endTime":546.79,"body":"It seems backwards."},{"startTime":546.87,"endTime":549.67,"body":"It's all about the truth defense in a defamation case."},{"startTime":549.67,"endTime":551.15,"body":"Truth is an absolute defense."},{"startTime":551.15,"endTime":555.63,"body":"So think about the sequence in document EFT00029524."},{"startTime":555.63,"endTime":556.55,"body":"Okay, step one."},{"startTime":556.63,"endTime":559.43,"body":"Step one, an accuser makes a public claim."},{"startTime":560.23,"endTime":564.55,"body":"Step two, the accused in these cases, Dershowitz or Maxwell,"},{"startTime":564.63,"endTime":566.79,"body":"publicly and aggressively denies 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happen."},{"startTime":1304.4299999999998,"endTime":1306.83,"body":"But it wasn't just the correctional system that failed."},{"startTime":1307.55,"endTime":1309.7099999999998,"body":"We have to look at the academic failure here."},{"startTime":1309.87,"endTime":1312.75,"body":"The documentation on the MIT Media Lab is."},{"startTime":1313.6299999999999,"endTime":1314.51,"body":"It's stark."},{"startTime":1314.59,"endTime":1319.4299999999998,"body":"The headline is, MIT Media Lab Founder Taking Jeffrey Epstein's"},{"startTime":1319.4299999999998,"endTime":1320.4299999999998,"body":"Money was Justified."},{"startTime":1320.9199999999998,"endTime":1322.3999999999999,"body":"The timing is what's critical here."},{"startTime":1322.3999999999999,"endTime":1323.48,"body":"This wasn't in the 90s."},{"startTime":1323.56,"endTime":1323.9599999999998,"body":"No."},{"startTime":1324.04,"endTime":1326.6799999999998,"body":"The acceptance of these funds and the efforts to conceal"},{"startTime":1326.6799999999998,"endTime":1330.36,"body":"their origin occurred after the 2008 conviction in Florida."},{"startTime":1330.36,"endTime":1332.6,"body":"After he was a publicly registered sex offender."},{"startTime":1332.6,"endTime":1334.28,"body":"After the mugshot was everywhere."},{"startTime":1334.28,"endTime":1334.76,"body":"Yes."},{"startTime":1334.9199999999998,"endTime":1336.1999999999998,"body":"This wasn't an oversight."},{"startTime":1336.1999999999998,"endTime":1338.12,"body":"It was a calculated financial decision."},{"startTime":1338.6,"endTime":1341.32,"body":"The institution, one of the most prestigious in the world,"},{"startTime":1341.32,"endTime":1344.28,"body":"weighed the reputational risk of taking money from a convicted"},{"startTime":1344.28,"endTime":1346.76,"body":"sex offender against the value of that capital."},{"startTime":1347.03,"endTime":1348.55,"body":"And they decided the money was worth it."},{"startTime":1348.6299999999999,"endTime":1350.31,"body":"They decided the money was worth it."},{"startTime":1351.03,"endTime":1354.59,"body":"This confirms that the network remained financially active and, you"},{"startTime":1354.59,"endTime":1358.7099999999998,"body":"know, socially integrated with elite institutions long after the criminal"},{"startTime":1358.7099999999998,"endTime":1360.31,"body":"label was officially applied."},{"startTime":1360.55,"endTime":1362.79,"body":"It was policy, not a mistake."},{"startTime":1363.029,"endTime":1364.79,"body":"Let's move to the unresolved gaps."},{"startTime":1364.87,"endTime":1367.79,"body":"We're going back to the DOJ database and the entity"},{"startTime":1367.79,"endTime":1370.55,"body":"extraction, the name index."},{"startTime":1371.11,"endTime":1372.9499999999998,"body":"We need to be careful and precise here."},{"startTime":1373.5,"endTime":1374.86,"body":"But the data is the data."},{"startTime":1374.9399999999998,"endTime":1376.98,"body":"The name index is just data, but it is, as"},{"startTime":1376.98,"endTime":1377.98,"body":"you said, loud data."},{"startTime":1377.98,"endTime":1378.5,"body":"Okay."},{"startTime":1378.5,"endTime":1381.3799999999999,"body":"Bill Clinton appearing in seven documents."},{"startTime":1381.3799999999999,"endTime":1383.3,"body":"Donald Trump appearing in six documents."},{"startTime":1383.3,"endTime":1386.1399999999999,"body":"Andrew Mountbatten Windsor, seven documents."},{"startTime":1386.3799999999999,"endTime":1389.4599999999998,"body":"Now, to be absolutely clear, appearing in these documents is"},{"startTime":1389.4599999999998,"endTime":1391.02,"body":"not the same thing as an indictment."},{"startTime":1391.1799999999998,"endTime":1393.34,"body":"It does not mean they were charged with a crime."},{"startTime":1393.34,"endTime":1393.78,"body":"Correct."},{"startTime":1393.78,"endTime":1394.82,"body":"And that is the gap."},{"startTime":1394.82,"endTime":1396.62,"body":"That is the core unresolved issue."},{"startTime":1397.1799999999998,"endTime":1400.82,"body":"Despite these names appearing repeatedly in the DOJ's own internal"},{"startTime":1400.82,"endTime":1403.86,"body":"database across data sets 1 through 8 and 12, there"},{"startTime":1403.86,"endTime":1408.06,"body":"are no corresponding indictment records for these specific individuals in"},{"startTime":1408.06,"endTime":1409.54,"body":"relation to the trafficking network."},{"startTime":1409.6999999999998,"endTime":1412.26,"body":"So the documents place them in the orbit, the travel"},{"startTime":1412.26,"endTime":1415.4199999999998,"body":"logs place them on the planes, the civil suits mention"},{"startTime":1415.4199999999998,"endTime":1418.8999999999999,"body":"them by name, but the criminal docket is empty."},{"startTime":1419.3,"endTime":1422.86,"body":"We also have a reference regarding Elon Musk, noting 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