{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"startTime":73.63,"endTime":75.47,"body":"3 million pages of evidence."},{"startTime":76.27,"endTime":78.66999999999999,"body":"Thousands of unsealed flight logs."},{"startTime":79.14999999999999,"endTime":84.03,"body":"Millions of data points, names, themes, and timelines connected."},{"startTime":84.83,"endTime":88.91,"body":"You are listening to the Epstein Files, the world's first"},{"startTime":89.07,"endTime":94.14999999999999,"body":"AI native investigation into the case that traditional journalism simply"},{"startTime":94.14999999999999,"endTime":95.22999999999999,"body":"could not handle."},{"startTime":99.78999999999999,"endTime":101.38999999999999,"body":"Welcome back to the Epstein Files."},{"startTime":101.63,"endTime":105.71,"body":"Last time we walked through Dodge Dre, 3.5 million pages."},{"startTime":106.27,"endTime":109.66999999999999,"body":"Today, we are following who hasn't been charged through 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times."},{"startTime":448.11,"endTime":450.75,"body":"The logs showed trips to Africa, trips to Asia."},{"startTime":450.90999999999997,"endTime":452.75,"body":"The proximity was extremely high."},{"startTime":453.4,"endTime":455.20000000000005,"body":"You don't spend that many hours on a private jet"},{"startTime":455.20000000000005,"endTime":456.43999999999994,"body":"with someone you barely know."},{"startTime":456.67999999999995,"endTime":459.08000000000004,"body":"The relationship was clearly more than casual."},{"startTime":459.15999999999997,"endTime":460.08000000000004,"body":"But here's the question."},{"startTime":460.08000000000004,"endTime":463.20000000000005,"body":"We've established the different categories of evidence in the unsealed"},{"startTime":463.20000000000005,"endTime":463.52,"body":"files."},{"startTime":463.52,"endTime":466.67999999999995,"body":"Is there a specific allegation of abuse similar to 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remained"},{"startTime":748.36,"endTime":750.88,"body":"free, why he remained rich, and why his associates were"},{"startTime":750.88,"endTime":754.22,"body":"never prosecuted, you have to read the literal text of"},{"startTime":754.22,"endTime":754.98,"body":"this document."},{"startTime":755.3000000000001,"endTime":758.5400000000001,"body":"It is, without exaggeration, the single most important legal document"},{"startTime":758.5400000000001,"endTime":759.74,"body":"in the entire saga."},{"startTime":759.74,"endTime":762.46,"body":"The reporting from the Miami Herald and specifically the work"},{"startTime":762.46,"endTime":763.14,"body":"of Julie K."},{"startTime":763.14,"endTime":763.62,"body":"Brown."},{"startTime":763.7,"endTime":765.38,"body":"This is what blew the whole thing open."},{"startTime":765.38,"endTime":766.9,"body":"She deserves immense credit."},{"startTime":767.14,"endTime":769.78,"body":"She obtained a copy of this secret deal and exposed"},{"startTime":769.78,"endTime":770.66,"body":"what was inside it."},{"startTime":770.98,"endTime":773.94,"body":"Specifically the uncharged co conspirators clause."},{"startTime":774.02,"endTime":774.9,"body":"Let's break that down."},{"startTime":774.9,"endTime":777.38,"body":"A normal plea deal is for the defendant, right?"},{"startTime":777.58,"endTime":780.74,"body":"You, the defendant, plead guilty to a lesser charge and"},{"startTime":780.74,"endTime":782.46,"body":"in exchange, you get a lighter sentence."},{"startTime":783.02,"endTime":784.0600000000001,"body":"This deal was different."},{"startTime":784.62,"endTime":787.26,"body":"The agreement which was signed by the U.S."},{"startTime":787.26,"endTime":789.74,"body":"attorney for the Southern District of Florida at the time,"},{"startTime":789.98,"endTime":794.94,"body":"Alex Acosta, it effectively granted immunity not just to Jeffrey"},{"startTime":794.94,"endTime":800.78,"body":"Epstein, it granted immunity to any potential co conspirators."},{"startTime":800.78,"endTime":802.82,"body":"I want to pause on that phrasing because it sounds"},{"startTime":802.82,"endTime":803.26,"body":"unreal."},{"startTime":803.5600000000001,"endTime":806.4,"body":"A federal prosecutor signed a document that gave a get"},{"startTime":806.4,"endTime":808.52,"body":"out of jail free card to people who hadn't even"},{"startTime":808.52,"endTime":809.24,"body":"been named."},{"startTime":809.24,"endTime":812.48,"body":"People who hadn't been named, hadn't been charged and weren't"},{"startTime":812.48,"endTime":813.8000000000001,"body":"even parties to the agreement?"},{"startTime":813.8000000000001,"endTime":814.16,"body":"Yes."},{"startTime":814.16,"endTime":815.16,"body":"How is that legal?"},{"startTime":815.32,"endTime":816.76,"body":"It's highly irregular."},{"startTime":816.76,"endTime":819.88,"body":"Numerous legal experts have since argued that it was 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decade."},{"startTime":864.66,"endTime":866.82,"body":"It sent a clear message to the FBI."},{"startTime":867.38,"endTime":868.1,"body":"Stop looking."},{"startTime":868.34,"endTime":869.14,"body":"But why?"},{"startTime":869.46,"endTime":870.74,"body":"What was the rationale?"},{"startTime":870.74,"endTime":873.66,"body":"Why would Alex Acosta, a US Attorney whose job is"},{"startTime":873.66,"endTime":876.26,"body":"to put people in prison, sign a deal like this?"},{"startTime":876.58,"endTime":879.86,"body":"The stated rationale, which Acosta himself has defended in congressional"},{"startTime":879.86,"endTime":882.78,"body":"hearings since, was that his office wanted to guarantee a"},{"startTime":882.78,"endTime":885.94,"body":"conviction and, crucially, get Epstein to register as a sex"},{"startTime":885.94,"endTime":886.5,"body":"offender."},{"startTime":886.66,"endTime":888.38,"body":"They argued the federal case was risky."},{"startTime":888.38,"endTime":890.7,"body":"They argued it was risky, that some of the victims"},{"startTime":890.7,"endTime":893.5400000000001,"body":"were hesitant to testify, that a jury could be unpredictable."},{"startTime":893.62,"endTime":895.98,"body":"And so their argument goes, this was the surest way"},{"startTime":895.98,"endTime":897.78,"body":"to get Epstein off the streets and get him on"},{"startTime":897.78,"endTime":899.38,"body":"the sex offender registry for life."},{"startTime":899.62,"endTime":902.6990000000001,"body":"That feels incredibly weak given the mountain of evidence they"},{"startTime":902.6990000000001,"endTime":903.5400000000001,"body":"reportedly had."},{"startTime":903.62,"endTime":904.26,"body":"It does."},{"startTime":904.5,"endTime":907.86,"body":"And reporting from other outlets like the Front Burner podcast,"},{"startTime":908.02,"endTime":910.26,"body":"suggests there was a different dynamic at play."},{"startTime":910.4200000000001,"endTime":913.5,"body":"It suggests there was a conflict 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far?"},{"startTime":1068.84,"endTime":1071.0,"body":"Why not charge her for things that happened in, say,"},{"startTime":1071.0,"endTime":1071.8,"body":"2005?"},{"startTime":1072.04,"endTime":1074.52,"body":"Because of the 2008 non prosecution agreement."},{"startTime":1074.6,"endTime":1076.92,"body":"That deal we just talked about, it covered the period"},{"startTime":1076.92,"endTime":1079.24,"body":"of the federal investigation in the mid-2000s."},{"startTime":1079.32,"endTime":1082.32,"body":"If prosecutors in New York tried to charge Maxwell for"},{"startTime":1082.32,"endTime":1085.68,"body":"crimes committed In Florida in 2005, her lawyers would have"},{"startTime":1085.68,"endTime":1089.46,"body":"immediately stood up in court, waived the 2008 NPA, and"},{"startTime":1089.46,"endTime":1092.4199999999998,"body":"said she is a potential uncharged co conspirator."},{"startTime":1092.4199999999998,"endTime":1095.02,"body":"She has immunity under this agreement signed by the 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failure there is so profound that it mimics"},{"startTime":1678.3999999999999,"endTime":1681.8,"body":"a cover up, even if it was just gross, multi"},{"startTime":1681.8,"endTime":1683.04,"body":"layered incompetence."},{"startTime":1683.12,"endTime":1685.6799999999998,"body":"What was the government's official response to all this?"},{"startTime":1685.6799999999998,"endTime":1687.52,"body":"Did they defend the Bureau of Prisons?"},{"startTime":1687.6,"endTime":1688.32,"body":"Not at all."},{"startTime":1688.6399999999999,"endTime":1691.6799999999998,"body":"Then Attorney General William Barr came out and publicly admitted"},{"startTime":1691.6799999999998,"endTime":1694.74,"body":"that there were serious irregularities at the mcc."},{"startTime":1694.74,"endTime":1696.82,"body":"That is a significant admission from the head of the"},{"startTime":1696.82,"endTime":1697.3799999999999,"body":"Justice Department."},{"startTime":1697.4599999999998,"endTime":1699.6999999999998,"body":"It's an admission of total system collapse."},{"startTime":1699.6999999999998,"endTime":1700.26,"body":"It is."},{"startTime":1700.4199999999998,"endTime":1703.1399999999999,"body":"And the Director of the entire Federal Bureau of Prisons"},{"startTime":1703.1399999999999,"endTime":1704.26,"body":"was subsequently fired."},{"startTime":1704.82,"endTime":1707.6999999999998,"body":"So even if you accept the official ruling of suicide,"},{"startTime":1707.9399999999998,"endTime":1711.62,"body":"the government itself effectively admitted that the environment that allowed"},{"startTime":1711.62,"endTime":1714.06,"body":"it to happen was the direct result of profound and"},{"startTime":1714.06,"endTime":1716.6599999999999,"body":"inexcusable institutional malpractice."},{"startTime":1716.6599999999999,"endTime":1719.1399999999999,"body":"Okay, let's move to our final block of evidence."},{"startTime":1719.74,"endTime":1720.9399999999998,"body":"The unresolved gaps."},{"startTime":1721.1,"endTime":1723.78,"body":"We have the names, we have the timeline of legal"},{"startTime":1723.78,"endTime":1724.1,"body":"failure."},{"startTime":1724.1,"endTime":1725.98,"body":"We have the forensic dispute over the body."},{"startTime":1726.62,"endTime":1728.06,"body":"But we have to follow the money."},{"startTime":1728.54,"endTime":1729.8999999999999,"body":"An operation of this scale."},{"startTime":1729.8999999999999,"endTime":1733.02,"body":"The private 727, the mansions, the private island."},{"startTime":1733.4199999999998,"endTime":1735.579,"body":"It burns through an immense amount of cash."},{"startTime":1736.2199999999998,"endTime":1737.26,"body":"Where did it come from?"},{"startTime":1737.34,"endTime":1740.1399999999999,"body":"The money trail is the engine that powered the entire"},{"startTime":1740.1399999999999,"endTime":1740.6999999999998,"body":"enterprise."},{"startTime":1741.1799999999998,"endTime":1744.4599999999998,"body":"And the documents point to one primary source, at least"},{"startTime":1744.4599999999998,"endTime":1744.86,"body":"initially."},{"startTime":1744.86,"endTime":1745.6599999999999,"body":"Les Wexner."},{"startTime":1745.6599999999999,"endTime":1746.06,"body":"Yes."},{"startTime":1746.4099999999999,"endTime":1749.37,"body":"The transcripts from Breaking Points and the program Going Underground"},{"startTime":1749.4499999999998,"endTime":1753.05,"body":"both cite the deep financial relationship with Les Wexner, the"},{"startTime":1753.05,"endTime":1756.33,"body":"billionaire founder of Victoria's Secret and the limited brands."},{"startTime":1756.49,"endTime":1759.49,"body":"And the documentation shows something truly extraordinary."},{"startTime":1759.49,"endTime":1762.25,"body":"Wexner gave Epstein his full power of attorney."},{"startTime":1762.33,"endTime":1763.29,"body":"Full power of attorney."},{"startTime":1763.29,"endTime":1765.49,"body":"And I want to be clear about what that 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him."},{"startTime":1828.73,"endTime":1832.29,"body":"But the power of attorney document itself suggests a voluntary"},{"startTime":1832.29,"endTime":1834.33,"body":"handover of control, at least at the beginning."},{"startTime":1834.49,"endTime":1836.09,"body":"And then there are the banks."},{"startTime":1836.49,"endTime":1839.05,"body":"We touched on this earlier, but the sheer volume of"},{"startTime":1839.05,"endTime":1840.6499999999999,"body":"money is staggering."},{"startTime":1841.05,"endTime":1845.73,"body":"CNN, citing data from JP Morgan, reported that the bank"},{"startTime":1845.73,"endTime":1849.81,"body":"processed over $1 billion in transactions for Epstein and his"},{"startTime":1849.81,"endTime":1850.81,"body":"entities over the years."},{"startTime":1851.26,"endTime":1852.3,"body":"One billion dollars."},{"startTime":1852.3799999999999,"endTime":1853.5,"body":"A billion dollars."},{"startTime":1853.82,"endTime":1857.34,"body":"And this relationship continued long after internal red flags were"},{"startTime":1857.34,"endTime":1857.74,"body":"raised."},{"startTime":1858.3799999999999,"endTime":1862.6599999999999,"body":"Long after Suspicious activity reports, or SARs, were filed by"},{"startTime":1862.6599999999999,"endTime":1864.78,"body":"the bank's own compliance officers."},{"startTime":1864.9399999999998,"endTime":1866.26,"body":"Explain what a SAR is."},{"startTime":1866.26,"endTime":1867.98,"body":"A SAR is a mandatory report."},{"startTime":1868.4599999999998,"endTime":1871.5,"body":"When a bank employee sees a transaction that looks suspicious."},{"startTime":1871.98,"endTime":1875.58,"body":"Large cash withdrawals, movements of money that don't make sense,"},{"startTime":1875.8999999999999,"endTime":1879.02,"body":"anything that could indicate money laundering or other criminal activity,"},{"startTime":1879.1,"endTime":1881.26,"body":"they are legally required to file a report with the"},{"startTime":1881.26,"endTime":1881.8999999999999,"body":"Treasury Department."},{"startTime":1882.2099999999998,"endTime":1884.77,"body":"So we know these reports were filed regarding Epstein's accounts."},{"startTime":1884.9299999999998,"endTime":1887.81,"body":"The bank's own compliance people saw the smoke."},{"startTime":1887.81,"endTime":1888.77,"body":"They saw the smoke."},{"startTime":1888.77,"endTime":1889.8899999999999,"body":"They filed the paperwork."},{"startTime":1890.2099999999998,"endTime":1892.61,"body":"But the institutional decision from the top of the bank"},{"startTime":1892.61,"endTime":1893.6499999999999,"body":"was to keep the client."},{"startTime":1893.8899999999999,"endTime":1896.9699999999998,"body":"The revenue generated from Epstein's accounts was deemed to outweigh"},{"startTime":1896.9699999999998,"endTime":1897.9699999999998,"body":"the compliance risk."},{"startTime":1898.2099999999998,"endTime":1900.81,"body":"It's the same pattern we saw with the DOJ in"},{"startTime":1900.81,"endTime":1903.4099999999999,"body":"2008 and the social elites in the 2010s."},{"startTime":1903.57,"endTime":1904.9299999999998,"body":"It's the exact same pattern."},{"startTime":1904.9299999999998,"endTime":1905.25,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":1905.25,"endTime":1908.9399999999998,"body":"The documented red flags were systematically ignored for the sake"},{"startTime":1908.9399999999998,"endTime":1910.3799999999999,"body":"of maintaining the relationship."},{"startTime":1910.86,"endTime":1913.26,"body":"Finally, we have to address the third rail of this"},{"startTime":1913.26,"endTime":1914.9399999999998,"body":"story, the intelligence question."},{"startTime":1915.34,"endTime":1917.6999999999998,"body":"This is the area with the most smoke and the"},{"startTime":1917.6999999999998,"endTime":1919.1,"body":"least declassified fire."},{"startTime":1919.6599999999999,"endTime":1924.06,"body":"The transcripts from RT's Going Underground program feature extensive interviews"},{"startTime":1924.2189999999998,"endTime":1926.3799999999999,"body":"with a man named Ari Ben Menashe."},{"startTime":1926.4599999999998,"endTime":1929.6599999999999,"body":"He's a former Israeli intelligence operative and his claims are"},{"startTime":1929.6599999999999,"endTime":1930.4599999999998,"body":"explosive."},{"startTime":1930.4599999999998,"endTime":1931.74,"body":"He doesn't mince words."},{"startTime":1932.2199999999998,"endTime":1936.5,"body":"He alleges explicitly that Jeffrey Epstein was working for Israeli"},{"startTime":1936.5,"endTime":1939.9199999999998,"body":"intelligence, for the Mossad, and that the entire sexual blackmail"},{"startTime":1939.9199999999998,"endTime":1943.28,"body":"operation was not for personal gratification, but was a classic"},{"startTime":1943.28,"endTime":1947.3999999999999,"body":"honey trap intelligence operation designed to entrap powerful American and"},{"startTime":1947.3999999999999,"endTime":1948.52,"body":"international figures."},{"startTime":1948.76,"endTime":1951.36,"body":"His argument is that the secret cameras in the bedrooms,"},{"startTime":1951.36,"endTime":1953.8799999999999,"body":"the entire setup was for intelligence gathering."},{"startTime":1953.9589999999998,"endTime":1954.84,"body":"That is his claim."},{"startTime":1955.0,"endTime":1956.36,"body":"But we have to look at the other side of"},{"startTime":1956.36,"endTime":1956.7199999999998,"body":"the record."},{"startTime":1956.7199999999998,"endTime":1957.76,"body":"We have to be balanced."},{"startTime":1957.76,"endTime":1958.28,"body":"We do."},{"startTime":1958.4399999999998,"endTime":1960.9199999999998,"body":"In some of the same source material, you have testimony"},{"startTime":1960.9199999999998,"endTime":1962.12,"body":"from Alan Dershowitz."},{"startTime":1962.1999999999998,"endTime":1966.6,"body":"And Dershowitz categorically denies any intelligence connection whatsoever."},{"startTime":1967.33,"endTime":1970.09,"body":"He states on the record that Epstein had no connection"},{"startTime":1970.09,"endTime":1973.25,"body":"to Israel and that these theories are baseless and absurd."},{"startTime":1973.33,"endTime":1975.57,"body":"So we have a direct conflict in the witness record."},{"startTime":1975.81,"endTime":1980.4499999999998,"body":"A former intelligence agent says Mossad, a longtime associate says"},{"startTime":1980.53,"endTime":1981.25,"body":"nonsense."},{"startTime":1981.57,"endTime":1984.85,"body":"And we as auditors lax the tie breaking document."},{"startTime":1985.6499999999999,"endTime":1989.37,"body":"We do not have a declassified CIA cable confirming Epstein"},{"startTime":1989.37,"endTime":1990.1299999999999,"body":"was an asset."},{"startTime":1990.29,"endTime":1992.4499999999998,"body":"We do not have a paystub from the Mossad with"},{"startTime":1992.4499999999998,"endTime":1993.09,"body":"his name on it."},{"startTime":1993.8799999999999,"endTime":1997.3999999999999,"body":"We have persistent rumors about blackmail tapes, but none of"},{"startTime":1997.3999999999999,"endTime":2000.04,"body":"those tapes have ever been produced or entered into evidence"},{"startTime":2000.04,"endTime":2001.6399999999999,"body":"in an unsealed court docket."},{"startTime":2001.7199999999998,"endTime":2004.4399999999998,"body":"So the allegation remains a persistent part of the witness"},{"startTime":2004.4399999999998,"endTime":2008.08,"body":"record, but it lacks the hard documentary confirmation we have"},{"startTime":2008.08,"endTime":2010.36,"body":"for the flight logs or the banking transactions."},{"startTime":2010.52,"endTime":2011.7199999999998,"body":"That's the correct way to frame it."},{"startTime":2011.7199999999998,"endTime":2013.56,"body":"We have to report the allegation because it's there."},{"startTime":2013.6399999999999,"endTime":2015.28,"body":"But we also have to report 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Les"},{"startTime":2106.3,"endTime":2106.86,"body":"Wexner."},{"startTime":2107.02,"endTime":2110.38,"body":"The actual complete surveillance video from the mcc."},{"startTime":2110.54,"endTime":2113.66,"body":"And of course, the definitive documented answer to the intelligence"},{"startTime":2113.66,"endTime":2113.98,"body":"question."},{"startTime":2114.3,"endTime":2116.06,"body":"Next time, the intelligence question."},{"startTime":2121.42,"endTime":2124.62,"body":"You have just heard an analysis of the official record."},{"startTime":2125.5,"endTime":2129.35,"body":"Every claim, name and date mentioned in this episode is"},{"startTime":2129.35,"endTime":2131.5099999999998,"body":"backed by primary source documents."},{"startTime":2131.99,"endTime":2136.0699999999997,"body":"You can view the original files for yourself at Epsteinfiles"},{"startTime":2136.31,"endTime":2136.95,"body":"fm."},{"startTime":2137.83,"endTime":2141.5499999999997,"body":"If you value this data first approach 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