{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"startTime":73.63,"endTime":75.47,"body":"3 million pages of evidence."},{"startTime":76.27,"endTime":78.66999999999999,"body":"Thousands of unsealed flight logs."},{"startTime":79.14999999999999,"endTime":84.03,"body":"Millions of data points, names, themes and timelines connected."},{"startTime":84.83,"endTime":88.91,"body":"You are listening to the Epstein Files, the world's first"},{"startTime":89.07,"endTime":94.14999999999999,"body":"AI native investigation into the case that traditional journalism simply"},{"startTime":94.14999999999999,"endTime":95.22999999999999,"body":"could not handle."},{"startTime":99.71,"endTime":101.27,"body":"Welcome back to the Epstein Files."},{"startTime":101.27,"endTime":102.75,"body":"This is our final episode."},{"startTime":102.99,"endTime":105.87,"body":"64 episodes of Documents, testimony and evidence."},{"startTime":106.27,"endTime":107.94999999999999,"body":"Today we examine the 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knew."},{"startTime":1286.7099999999998,"endTime":1287.6699999999998,"body":"They knew he was a risk."},{"startTime":1287.6699999999998,"endTime":1289.03,"body":"They had a protocol for it."},{"startTime":1289.27,"endTime":1291.3899999999999,"body":"Just like he had a massage manual, the Bureau of"},{"startTime":1291.3899999999999,"endTime":1293.07,"body":"Prisons had a custody manual."},{"startTime":1293.07,"endTime":1295.87,"body":"They had the paperwork check the cell every 30 minutes,"},{"startTime":1295.87,"endTime":1298.09,"body":"remove all bed sheets, and yet he died."},{"startTime":1298.09,"endTime":1299.49,"body":"He died on their watch."},{"startTime":1299.8899999999999,"endTime":1304.6899999999998,"body":"And whether you believe that was catastrophic incompetence, systemic negligence,"},{"startTime":1304.6899999999998,"endTime":1305.01,"body":"or."},{"startTime":1305.73,"endTime":1308.61,"body":"Or something more sinister, the end result is the 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more"},{"startTime":1438.5,"endTime":1439.58,"body":"than just empty words."},{"startTime":1439.6599999999999,"endTime":1442.3,"body":"In this series we have established a pattern of wealth"},{"startTime":1442.3,"endTime":1445.6999999999998,"body":"insulating crime, a legal system that hesitated, and a network"},{"startTime":1445.6999999999998,"endTime":1447.98,"body":"of survivors who refused to be silenced."},{"startTime":1448.3,"endTime":1451.34,"body":"We've seen how documents were hidden, deleted, and finally, through"},{"startTime":1451.34,"endTime":1454.3,"body":"persistence, brought to light to the survivors."},{"startTime":1455.1,"endTime":1457.4199999999998,"body":"The legacy of this case is not just the crimes,"},{"startTime":1457.6599999999999,"endTime":1460.54,"body":"but the documentation that ensures it can never be denied."},{"startTime":1461.1299999999999,"endTime":1462.81,"body":"Accountability is not a one time 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you're listening right now."},{"startTime":1495.3,"endTime":1497.4599999999998,"body":"It helps keep this investigation visible."},{"startTime":1497.9399999999998,"endTime":1499.3799999999999,"body":"We'll see you in the next file."}]}