{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"startTime":73.63,"endTime":75.47,"body":"3 million pages of evidence."},{"startTime":76.27,"endTime":78.66999999999999,"body":"Thousands of unsealed flight logs."},{"startTime":79.14999999999999,"endTime":84.03,"body":"Millions of data points, names, themes and timelines connected."},{"startTime":84.83,"endTime":88.91,"body":"You are listening to the Epstein Files, the world's first"},{"startTime":89.07,"endTime":94.14999999999999,"body":"AI native investigation into the case that traditional journalism simply"},{"startTime":94.14999999999999,"endTime":95.22999999999999,"body":"could not handle."},{"startTime":96.42999999999999,"endTime":101.22999999999999,"body":"Foreign welcome back to the Epscene Files."},{"startTime":101.38999999999999,"endTime":105.082,"body":"I'm looking at an FBI 302 interview summary dated March"},{"startTime":105.16399999999999,"endTime":105.94999999999999,"body":"12, 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