Messy Lunch Episode 4 - The Damned At Legado, Shoreditch

Welcome to episode 4 of Messy Lunch. In this episode we are beyond excited to be joined by Rat Scabies & Paul Gray of punk pioneers The Damned.. The Damned were formed in 1976 and are celebrating the 50th anniversary of their band and in turn punk itself this year. Gizzi & Leonie took the duo to Legado in Shoreditch, which was just given its first Michelin Star and its headed up Chef Nieves Barragán Mohacho.

Watch on YouTube Here

The Damned

https://www.instagram.com/thedamnedofficial
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzutsHtxpt5NlFFF_vQUHpQ

Legado

https://www.instagram.com/legado_ldn
https://www.instagram.com/nieves_barragan1

Messy Lunch

https://www.instagram.com/messylunchshow
https://www.instagram.com/gizzierskine
https://www.instagram.com/leoniemaycooper


#music #interview #movieclip #funny #fypシ #podcast #official #food #sleafordmods #fyp #punk #postpunk #punk #thedamned

Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:25

Let's say hello. This is the Downed. We have brass Gabies and Paul Grey from the Downed, aka Gizzy's favourite band in the world.

SPEAKER_06 0:32

Can I just can I just say that you have no idea, I know you get this a lot because we've just been talking about weird fans. Hi, I'm a weird fan that you're gonna get to sit next to. I went to, I was 15 years old, I went to see you at the marquee at about 94, 95, and it I literally walked in and was like, uh, it changed my life. And I've just then it, you know, then I was a horrible game. Well exactly.

SPEAKER_01 0:58

For the better, I hope. It's a funny thing. You're not the first person to say that.

SPEAKER_07 1:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:05

And um, but really, you you don't have to do much to be a band, you know. You kind of go, you instinct, you do what you want to do, and then someone says you change my life. And I don't want that kind of responsibility.

SPEAKER_03 1:18

You have to do a lot to be in a band for 50 years, though. I know people have come in and out of the band over the years. There's been a lot of entrances and exits, but the fact 50 years down the line you're still here is thank you so much, is pretty impressive, no?

SPEAKER_01 1:31

Yeah. Yeah? I suppose. Yeah. Either or very unimaginative.

SPEAKER_06 1:36

Oh no, I would I would say the antipathies with you guys. I was actually watching your um documentary last night, which was 15 years ago, which was insane. We were just talking. You were in South by Southwest. I think I saw a premiere at South by Southwest documentary. Yeah. Oh, there we go. Drinks. Oh my god, we've got sangria. We're in a really brand new restaurant. It's called Vicado. Um, it's run by Neves Barragan, who is uh a little dynamo. She's been around for years. She was one of the very first uh women to have a Spanish Michelin star. She got it in a restaurant called Barrafina, which is in town. It's like a really good counter tapaz bar. It's phenomenal. I know. Do you know it? I do, I've been in there.

SPEAKER_03 2:24

Oh, it's so the little omelette. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:26

You're going to mix these to our restaurants. No, it was in it was like a tapas bar with around Solar.

SPEAKER_03 2:32

Yeah, it's like you always had a queue up and always. Could you not skip the queue with your rock and roll credentials?

SPEAKER_01 2:40

Yeah, I do.

SPEAKER_03 2:40

There we go.

SPEAKER_01 2:41

I just quite often just barge my way to the front and do you know. That's one way to do it.

SPEAKER_06 2:46

I fucking hope so. I really hope so. So um she got a Rich Night Star, she went on out on her own and opened, you come in, come come in.

SPEAKER_02 2:55

So this is Bodega Zatis Liaspina staged on the finalies, like it's early stuff. Yeah, I believe you.

SPEAKER_06 3:03

She got her own restaurant, which was a place called Sabor, which is down top down behind. It's on Hedden Street, isn't it?

SPEAKER_03 3:09

So that bit of like mage fair just off Regent Street. Hedden Street, famous because. Isn't it there's a Bowie album cover? Yes, that's shot on Hedon Street. It's the one where it says there's the K West sign. What album is that? Is it Ziggy Starduck? Is it's uh Ziggy Starter, yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you Bowie fans?

SPEAKER_00 3:26

I met him on a train once.

SPEAKER_03 3:27

You met Bowie on a train?

SPEAKER_00 3:29

I've got his auto, he's the only person I've ever asked for an autograph for. What year was this? 1977.

SPEAKER_03 3:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 3:34

The band I was in, Eddie and Hot Royce, we did the last of a Mark Boland TV show.

SPEAKER_03 3:38

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_00 3:39

He was on it.

SPEAKER_03 3:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:40

And we got a train back to London after it.

SPEAKER_03 3:42

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 3:43

And he had um could Mark show he had Boland. Me?

SPEAKER_06 3:47

Oh yeah, yeah. No, you go. I just do. But hold that thought about Bowie.

SPEAKER_00 3:55

I'll give that a 9.5.

SPEAKER_03 3:59

I didn't know where that was gonna go first. I was pretty scared. My heart stopped. Um that's a 9.5 out of ten. 9.5 out of ten, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:10

So they were having this jam on the TV show. Yeah. And they ran out of time.

SPEAKER_03 4:13

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 4:14

So we had to go back to London without filming our section.

SPEAKER_03 4:17

Alright.

SPEAKER_00 4:18

And David Bye walked to the train carriage.

SPEAKER_03 4:20

Amazing.

SPEAKER_00 4:21

And he said, Oh, I didn't know, Roger. He said, Um, I'm sorry about that. He said, I haven't seen uh Martin for a couple of years, we're just having a bit of fun. Okay. Said your boy's hungry, thirsty.

SPEAKER_07 4:30

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 4:30

He said, Well, yeah, just a bit, you've been in a television studio all day.

SPEAKER_07 4:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:34

And his own carriage at the back, but the toilet wasn't working. So he said, I'm just gonna have a slash, I'll come back, I'll bring some food in for you.

SPEAKER_03 4:42

I hope he washed his hands in between that.

SPEAKER_00 4:44

I didn't ask him that.

SPEAKER_03 4:46

I'm not that bad. But he comes back.

SPEAKER_00 4:48

This big hamper full of like Stan Dere the first time I'd anything apart from uh what's that white wine that everybody used to drink?

SPEAKER_06 4:57

Uh Vino Grigia.

SPEAKER_00 4:59

Yeah, um, and smoked salmon sandwiches, and I'm from South End, so it's like fish and chips and cockle.

SPEAKER_03 5:05

It's more than blue nun. Blue nun, no, blue nun, yeah. Yeah, all of this. Okay, so you've got Bowie's hamper.

SPEAKER_00 5:12

So he's then established the entire journey back, talk through everything from black holes in space to stand in this city in South America, yeah. And shared all these smoke with us. And then I said, can you sign the dinner plate? So I got to pull Bowie 77.

SPEAKER_03 5:26

Bloody.

SPEAKER_00 5:27

Only person I've ever iced food.

SPEAKER_03 5:28

Where is that dinner plate now?

SPEAKER_00 5:30

In the box somewhere.

SPEAKER_03 5:34

Well about Iggy. You must have met Iggy a few times. Yeah. Does he?

SPEAKER_01 5:40

Oh, yeah, then well, because he has, yeah. No, no, he no, he tried to punch me once, but Okay, did he?

SPEAKER_03 5:48

I think that's a badge of honour, no?

SPEAKER_06 5:50

Oh, that would have been he must have been little trying to get up there. Uh that would have been fun. Fun and jump. Yeah, to climb you. Yeah. What happens?

SPEAKER_01 5:59

Um no, it it's very old and boring, you know. But um basically, I I was um we were very big Iggy fans. Yes. And we'd just done the first album and covered one of his songs on it. And I sort of said, Hey, we've just covered one of your songs, and he completely ignored me. And so I said, Hey Iggy, you know, we just covered one of your songs, you know, we think you're great.

SPEAKER_03 6:27

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_06 6:29

No.

SPEAKER_01 6:30

Nothing at all. So then I was rude to him.

SPEAKER_06 6:33

What year was that then?

SPEAKER_01 6:34

Must have been 78. 78, okay. Around the time of last year.

SPEAKER_06 6:38

Did you in the UK or in America? Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 6:41

And then I was rude to him.

SPEAKER_06 6:43

What did you say?

SPEAKER_01 6:44

Something about he was only Bowie's lapdog. Okay, how did that get his attention? And then um, as he took a swing at me, um, two very large English gentlemen.

SPEAKER_03 6:56

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 6:58

One of them took him aside, and the other one just said to me, You're not gonna do anything silly, are you, son? Uh it was like Ow!

SPEAKER_03 7:06

No, not now.

SPEAKER_06 7:11

It's like the biggest menu in London at the moment. Everyone's talking about it because it's the menu is monster. Um do you have an affinity with Spanish food at all? Do you or stay? No, none at all. Today's the day for starting.

SPEAKER_00 7:24

My Spanish food kind of extends a payola and that's about it. Okay. With the meat bits taken out because I don't eat meat.

SPEAKER_06 7:31

You don't eat meat, right? So fish don't. Yeah, you eat fish, don't you? Yeah. Do you eat everything?

SPEAKER_00 7:35

Anything.

SPEAKER_06 7:36

Anything, I love that.

SPEAKER_01 7:41

Unless you get really lucky and get time off when you're touring, and you have to be touring somewhere, and you haven't had time off, you you really don't get that much chance to explore your culture and your food and your wine.

SPEAKER_07 7:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:55

So you usually end up, you know, the closest hotel, restaurant, and you go in there and you kind of okay, this will do, it's expensive. Yeah, it must be. But you don't really know anything about the food.

SPEAKER_06 8:06

It's yeah, I suppose it's more like substance, you're sort of like, and you're in one town one night and somewhere else the next night.

SPEAKER_00 8:13

When you can.

SPEAKER_06 8:14

But not even on your holes. When you go on holiday, when you're if you're going somewhere in like have you been to Spoke?

SPEAKER_01 8:19

No. No, I I I end up in uh the south of France. Oh, I love that. That's a great shout.

SPEAKER_03 8:28

Yeah, you're close, especially if you're in like the Basque kind of area. South of France comes into like San Sebastian and then. I do like the Basque.

SPEAKER_06 8:36

Yeah, but Basque. Some of the best food in in is coming out of Basque Country at the moment. We're seeing such a a trend for Bass food.

SPEAKER_01 8:43

That was a paella to remember. It was, yeah. We played in the Basque Country and we arrived there was a car on fire outside this basketball station.

SPEAKER_03 8:51

Exciting.

SPEAKER_01 8:52

And they had a basketball game on.

SPEAKER_03 8:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:54

And we had this amazing promoter who was this guy in a wheelchair who had this incredible sense of humour and everything was he he had this paella that like it was a two-day cook.

SPEAKER_06 9:07

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_01 9:07

So he had Viggio San Sebastian around there, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_00 9:12

Somewhere like that.

SPEAKER_01 9:13

That seafood up there was fantastic. Probably one of my fondest memories of Spanish food was in the basketball stadium with a burning car.

SPEAKER_06 9:21

Oh, it sounds brilliant. It sounds beautiful. What about you? Spain? Do you watch in Spain?

SPEAKER_00 9:27

Um I go to Italy. Go to Italy, Tuscany Umbria. Monterrey and you've just come back.

SPEAKER_03 9:33

I was in Tuscany at the end of last year, my first time. It's just so beautiful, doesn't it? I just love everything about it.

SPEAKER_00 9:38

It's just so laid back, peaceful, you can center history, you know, the people are great.

SPEAKER_03 9:43

Yeah. There was a lot of, yeah, I think we were just at the end of some kind of season, so most places were shut, but we found this just like the smallest pizza parlour ever in the world. It was the best pizza we've ever had, with the best wine I've ever had, and it was oh, that's 10 euros.

SPEAKER_06 9:55

And this is the thing you don't have to think too much because they they hone it to you, the menus are time, yeah. And and you're just like you sit there and you just get hospitality.

SPEAKER_03 10:02

It's like food in Japan, it's not coming out if it's not incredible.

SPEAKER_06 10:10

We'd like to try the bacalau. Yeah. Um and do you have the milk fed lounge kidneys?

SPEAKER_02 10:16

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_06 10:17

Yeah, I think we'll put those on. And also, you they love um and as a band, they love rice, the the rice dishes. So the the paellas, the rice. Yeah, I mean and then is there anything you want to put on there?

SPEAKER_00 10:31

Well, um you don't have paello, right?

SPEAKER_02 10:34

No, but they've got a rosmelo uh a rosemillo, so more of a wet uh style of rice.

SPEAKER_06 10:38

It's actually nicer than paillello, aren't I? Yeah, this has uh some great suggestions that will a little more fish heavy for the whole thing to share. Okay, amazing, thank you.

SPEAKER_04 10:49

Oh beautiful, so how excited? Nice to meet you! Welcome, welcome, welcome! Welcome to the remaining friends.

SPEAKER_00 11:02

Welcome for you.

SPEAKER_04 11:03

I can't wait to be cooking for you. I know you've been displaying the menu, but I'm gonna be cooking. I'm gonna show you the highlights of legado.

SPEAKER_07 11:12

Oh yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_04 11:13

Legado means legacy and it's the collection of north to south, east to west uh culinary food in Spain. So if you don't mind, I'm gonna make the menu for you. How is that? That sounds good. Yes, the best.

SPEAKER_06 11:30

I know whatever you do, it's gonna be delicious. Let's give it highlights. Let's get it highlighting. Let's get out of the way then. Enjoy it.

SPEAKER_07 11:35

There we go.

SPEAKER_06 11:39

So Legado is in the middle of uh shored ditch and you recorded uh the album that we're out here to celebrate.

SPEAKER_03 11:46

First, yeah, the first record was recorded in Stoke Newington. Is it 50 years ago?

SPEAKER_01 11:50

Islington, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:51

Yeah, Islington, Stoke Newington, which isn't far from here, is it? How is the area change? The area must have changed a hell of a lot. Like this building, I don't think, was much nicer.

SPEAKER_01 12:00

Ten years ago. Never used to be nice.

SPEAKER_03 12:04

No.

SPEAKER_01 12:04

And there weren't many shops.

SPEAKER_03 12:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:07

But I remember um the studio in Wapping we used to work at next to the uh Prospector Whitby pub.

SPEAKER_06 12:15

I know exactly where you mean. In the um in the big but they ended up taking it over and it's now became a restaurant.

SPEAKER_01 12:20

But when that was all big tablets and the only people who lived there were kind of musicians and artists, because it was cheap, nobody wanted to be there.

SPEAKER_03 12:28

Was it squats or was it actual like were they just squats or were people paying very very mental?

SPEAKER_01 12:33

I think it was both.

SPEAKER_03 12:34

Okay, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:35

Because the studio and the Smiths worked there quite a lot as well. But it was um watching it gentrify.

SPEAKER_03 12:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:42

And um going into the corner shop, and she was a lovely old girl, and and this well to well-heeled lady coming in asking for aubergines, and this woman just called behind the counter going. We don't really get the call love here. But just watching that slowly.

SPEAKER_06 13:00

And now everyone's got a bloody aubergine and everyone's got an aubergine too.

SPEAKER_03 13:05

You can't move for aubergines, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:08

They're everywhere.

SPEAKER_03 13:08

But I've I've got a question about that first album. Obviously, you weren't around in a band for the first round.

SPEAKER_00 13:12

I wasn't for the first couple, first row, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:14

But the first album on the cover, you've obviously just had a food fight. What what was that food and why do you look so happy to have it all over your face?

SPEAKER_01 13:23

Well, the truth is quite painful sometimes.

SPEAKER_03 13:28

Go on.

SPEAKER_01 13:29

They were um it was uh a regular flan base.

SPEAKER_03 13:34

Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:34

Tomata ketchup.

SPEAKER_06 13:38

That is bad.

SPEAKER_01 13:39

And shaving cream.

SPEAKER_06 13:41

Oh no. I kind of get the shaving cream.

SPEAKER_01 13:43

Just wasn't edible.

SPEAKER_06 13:44

No, yeah, but I reckon did some get in.

SPEAKER_01 13:47

But it looked.

SPEAKER_06 13:48

I feel like that's the least of their worries with the amount of piss and stuff that they uh used to get thrown at them.

SPEAKER_01 13:56

It was a funny thing, because we didn't know that was what it was gonna be.

SPEAKER_03 13:59

Yeah, who whose idea was that? Photo shoot? The photographer? Yeah. Okay. So you just turned up and you're like, here we are, looking all presentable for our shoot, and they're like, right, you're gonna have a food fight. You're like, oh, I'd wear my best leather jacket.

SPEAKER_01 14:11

No, it wasn't even that good. They just suddenly they were there, and I was like, oh, cool, they made some food.

unknown 14:17

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 14:18

But they had for change, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 14:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:22

It was um I I didn't like it at first. I thought not the being covered in food, that's always a fun thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, but when I looked at the pictures, I was like, oh for fuck's sake. No, I want to look like I'm a proper rock star or something. But I I suppose as it as it showed up, you know, that thing of an anti image.

SPEAKER_05 14:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:44

Without with no, we ain't we don't want to be glamorous, we don't want to be part of your thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But we could get away with it because we were better looking than the sex pistols.

SPEAKER_03 14:53

Yeah, well you were agreed. Yeah. And also you always had that thing, you kind of all sort of look a bit like could have been all from different bands. Yeah, wasn't that kind of cohesion?

SPEAKER_01 15:02

That's really interesting you say that because it's always been one of the band's problems was that we were told very early on that any one of us could have our own career.

SPEAKER_03 15:11

We were all frontmen, basically, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:14

And um, we all went, yeah, fuck them. Who needs him? And we've always and it uh it's still there now. Everyone in the band thinks they're the best one in the group.

SPEAKER_06 15:24

Is it still the same? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:27

So uh Queen Scott Sabu show? Yes, I think oil and Moscatel vinaigrette.

SPEAKER_06 15:33

Is it a scoop and then it's gob number or more uh I think you can enjoy it just like an oyster to be honest. Just like an oyster.

SPEAKER_02 15:39

Yeah?

SPEAKER_01 15:40

But band line ups are an evolutionary thing.

SPEAKER_07 15:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:44

And it's you know, tell it to Fleetwood Mac.

SPEAKER_07 15:47

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 15:48

You know, you just kind of everybody moves at a different pace, and there were certainly times when I just didn't really want to be a part of what it was. Sure.

SPEAKER_03 15:57

You know, and well, I mean, over 50 years, it's like it's a very long-term relationship, isn't it, to be the same people for 50 years.

SPEAKER_01 16:04

I know, full of spite and hatred and bitterness. We didn't know what we were doing.

SPEAKER_05 16:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:13

So it was really easy.

SPEAKER_05 16:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:15

You know, because you just had to say, well, we don't know what we're doing. So we're just gonna do what we can that makes it sound like music. That makes it sound right.

SPEAKER_03 16:26

Is that kind of like fake it till you make it thing as well? You sort of act like you know what's going on. Then it sort of just works out.

SPEAKER_01 16:32

It's not saying nobody, you know, was without talent. It wasn't anything like that. It was just that sometimes you you you go that I wonder what'll happen if I press that button and make that sound like that. Will it will it be great? Will it be rubbish?

SPEAKER_03 16:47

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:48

And quite often it turns out to be great, you know. And what you really need is the freedom with a band around you to say that is. Because there's nothing worse than being original, because when you're original, nobody's heard what you've done before.

SPEAKER_03 17:02

Paul, before you joined the band, were you a fan? Or were you all were you all friends? Just tell me.

SPEAKER_00 17:14

Delicious, I don't know. Out of all the bands because my bands start at the same time as Amsterdam. So we used to play the same place as Nashville, Hopenanga.

SPEAKER_03 17:24

Was the Nash Nashville was a venue in West London?

SPEAKER_00 17:27

Yeah, it came to the show. It's still there. It's called the um Six Kings or something now. Okay, okay. Still in the fullest part, but the live bit's gone. And out of all the bands that kind of came together around that time, um The Dam were the ones that me and my band always loved.

SPEAKER_03 17:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:46

Just because they were the same on stage and off stage, you never quite knew what was going to happen.

SPEAKER_03 17:50

Okay, and that was exciting.

SPEAKER_00 17:51

So we used to go to each other's shows and like heck of them end up crashing each other's sort of flats after.

SPEAKER_03 17:57

Were you at the 100 club shows, though?

SPEAKER_00 18:00

I didn't know that one. Um I always loved the jam, but just the attitude was fantastic. We always got on great as well. Okay. There was no shit about them.

SPEAKER_07 18:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:11

But yeah, none of the bands were the same. Yeah. So we weren't competing for the same audience, or we didn't think we were.

SPEAKER_07 18:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:20

You know, they all they were totally different. You name all of those early bats, the jam, the hotwell, the dam, the pistols, the clack.

SPEAKER_06 18:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:28

Stranglers. But none of them sounded the same.

SPEAKER_06 18:31

No. And what what took you to America before the other bands?

SPEAKER_01 18:37

CBT was a very big interest. But none of the New York band had records out. So nobody knows about so we'd get punk magazine.

SPEAKER_02 18:50

Sorry to interrupt, just to let you know, because we have some more food coming. We have a mugfish tempura with a chili jammy. This is one of the few dishes that we carried across from Sabor.

SPEAKER_06 19:00

Amazing. This is outrageous, isn't it? Bread and bread and blooming ham. Yeah. Bread and tomato, just the best. It is one of my favourite things on earth though.

SPEAKER_03 19:10

And with a little ham on on the top as well for the for the meaty side of the table. Yeah. Delicious. So yeah, you go to New York. How did you even hear about CBGBs before? Because obviously you haven't got, you know, on Instagram, you're not finding out. Is it was it through NME? Was it through Music Mags? No.

SPEAKER_01 19:25

No, there were okay. Oh there was a record store in Freight Street in Paddington.

SPEAKER_03 19:30

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 19:31

Um which was round the corner from Miss and Grove Dole Office.

SPEAKER_03 19:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 19:35

And there were no punk records.

SPEAKER_03 19:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:38

I mean, the nearest thing was Metallic KO, which came out just around the sight before that. It was done by this French guy, um Mark Zamati, him and his partner Larry Dubay, and they ran this record store.

SPEAKER_03 19:50

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 19:51

Now these two kids that used to just break amel nitrate behind the counter.

SPEAKER_03 19:55

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 19:56

And then they put on like blue oyster cult, fear of the report.

SPEAKER_03 19:59

So we were like, I have this record and a bottle of that. Thanks for watching.

SPEAKER_01 20:03

But they also had punk magazines, so we'd go in there and what's new, what's happening, you've got, and they catch a load of bunch of MC5 and Stooges records and stuff. Okay, yeah. Radio Birdman and all of those sort of cool stuff.

SPEAKER_05 20:16

So in meeting Iggy, as we said earlier, was there actually a bit of like ME Starstrum?

SPEAKER_01 20:22

Yeah, for sure. But you know, like I say, none of them had a record out, so you had to guess what Blondie sounded like.

SPEAKER_05 20:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:31

You had to guess what the Ramones sounded like. You couldn't all we had was photographs.

SPEAKER_03 20:35

So when you went to New York for the first time, did you see these bands playing be like, oh, that's what they sound like? Oh, that's alright actually. Who impressed you the most when you went over there? Who was the band?

SPEAKER_01 20:44

Always the Ramones.

SPEAKER_03 20:46

Always the Ramones. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:48

Well, who just the absolute.

SPEAKER_03 20:50

Did you get to hang out with them when you were there? Yeah. I mean I think Who was your favourite Ramon?

SPEAKER_01 20:55

Goey.

SPEAKER_06 20:56

Goey. I think well, everyone's favourite. But I think there's an element of like how you guys presented yourself like a band. There's something in the Ramones that was not as serious as all the other punk bands. The Ramones. And you guys sort of had that a bit, I mean.

SPEAKER_01 21:09

The Ramones were totally cool as people.

SPEAKER_06 21:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:12

You know, I mean, I used to really like Tommy as well, the drummer. He was a very cool guy.

SPEAKER_03 21:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:17

You know.

SPEAKER_03 21:18

And but that inspiration they had from the girl groups as well was incredible. And that kind of Phil Spectre stuff that they which I would assume maybe at the time wasn't cool.

SPEAKER_01 21:26

And Herman's Hermits.

SPEAKER_03 21:28

Exactly, yeah, they're drawing from so many sources.

SPEAKER_01 21:30

First time I met a face bass was in a Soho record store.

SPEAKER_03 21:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:34

And they were just creaming everything that was shitty 70s, glitter, glam pop. I mean, you know, they were. But they were, you know, they they really knew. And it's what the Ramones do did was one of the hardest things on earth, which is to take a three-chord song and make it different every every track.

SPEAKER_06 21:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:55

And a different dynamic. And they really nailed it, you know.

SPEAKER_06 22:00

I I I can't think of a sort of British punk band at the time who came out of that scene who was so fun as well, other than you guys, you know. I don't think that I think part of that was maybe like you know, that was kind of like sharing that identity a bit with them, maybe.

SPEAKER_00 22:17

I was really lucky. I I shared a flat with the two guys around Bizarre Records that Rap was talking about. Yeah, Hamilton Grove, Tim and Larry. So I I got to hear all the you know Richard Helen television and the Ramones before anybody else did. Because you bring him back from the shop and put him on his massive homemade speaker stereo system. Yeah. So that was my kind of education. You'd read about it in the back of uh Chris Welch's column in the back of Melody America, you sort of because nobody was writing very much about it in the mainstream press, you know, the NB not sounds not moon made. Everybody did just little teasers.

SPEAKER_03 22:51

Slipping glue was the fancy. But that's how they made it right, okay.

SPEAKER_01 22:55

But everybody thinks when it was 1976, the whole world suddenly went hunk rock and embraced it. Yeah, they didn't, we were so unpopular.

SPEAKER_07 23:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:04

I mean, everyone else was status quo and heavy rock and progress. Or hairbands.

SPEAKER_03 23:10

Yeah, when you also had like Hawkwind and Lemmy, who I know ended up doing quite a lot of stuff with the damned.

SPEAKER_00 23:16

Yeah, but Hawkins are great though. I mean, they're always anti-established, but they were they were punked.

SPEAKER_03 23:20

They have like kind of three parties in the middle of the forest. And that first motorhead album was a punk album, wasn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:26

But cool people are cool.

SPEAKER_06 23:28

Yeah, that's it. That's it.

SPEAKER_02 23:33

Next up we have uh Galithian octopus. Have you had octopus before?

SPEAKER_01 23:38

I have, but it's usually quite chewy, isn't it?

SPEAKER_06 23:40

No, if it's cooked properly, are you okay with octopus? You had it before?

SPEAKER_00 23:45

I am. Although I did watch a film a bit on the book.

SPEAKER_03 23:50

I can't watch it because I know it's not being eating octopus and I love octopus.

SPEAKER_06 23:53

He's a nice little mate, that guy. He was really kind of like my octopus teacher. Exactly. I can't go into it. I mean it looks absolutely delicious.

SPEAKER_03 24:00

So yeah, octopus can, if it's cooked badly, it's very chewy and not nice. But if it's cooked well, which I assume it is here, it's good for it. Wow. Oh, it's like the crisp. That is so good, isn't it?

SPEAKER_05 24:12

I've got meat.

SPEAKER_01 24:13

Tastes beaty or the thing I hate about cookery program is the poor audience can never taste it.

SPEAKER_05 24:21

And everyone's going to go delicious. So we'd be like that.

SPEAKER_01 24:25

They might be lying.

SPEAKER_06 24:30

Do you cook now?

SPEAKER_01 24:31

I do a bit. I do um I do a very popular casserole.

SPEAKER_06 24:36

Oh, that's a good shout. Beans and sausage and bacon.

SPEAKER_01 24:41

Oh bit of pork belly.

SPEAKER_06 24:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:44

Toulouse sausages if you never know.

SPEAKER_06 24:46

You know what's what.

SPEAKER_01 24:47

Well, I spent a fair amount of time in that Lib D. That region of France.

SPEAKER_07 24:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:55

And so I got a cheats recipe.

SPEAKER_07 24:58

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 24:59

But it was um, it's just quite easy to do, you know. And just whack it on it. It takes a long time.

SPEAKER_03 25:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:06

So I'm occupied for the day, you know, you have to cook everything. And I've got a really good butcher's near me that does this really great to leave sauce. Two quid a fucking sausage though. I mean.

SPEAKER_06 25:17

Wow, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:18

I mean, in this economy, that sounds good like great value to me.

SPEAKER_01 25:23

Well, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:23

Yeah. London prices being as they are right now, that's a good deal.

SPEAKER_01 25:28

I just got into this thing of like um, you know, the wife always did the cooking, and it was like, it's not really fair, and plus maybe why can't I do that?

SPEAKER_03 25:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:39

And so I did a lot of things with mints.

SPEAKER_03 25:42

A lot of things with mints. What's your what's your favourite thing to do with mints? That's a great name for a book.

SPEAKER_00 25:47

My favourite thing with mints is um You don't have to answer that.

SPEAKER_07 25:54

Oh, alright.

SPEAKER_01 25:56

Perhaps best not to. No, it's uh chili con calm, but uh chili, but I like putting in a proper real chilies.

SPEAKER_03 26:05

Yeah, real chilies. Okay, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:07

If we've got a shop that will sell them to you individually. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 26:09

Uh huh.

SPEAKER_01 26:10

So you can get a Scotch bonnet for like 30 pence or something.

SPEAKER_06 26:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:13

But the real thing is I like fruit and food.

SPEAKER_06 26:16

Do you? That's interesting because most every boyfriend I've ever gone out with, it's their number one thing is they don't eat fruit and food.

SPEAKER_01 26:24

No.

SPEAKER_06 26:24

Oh, I love it. Do you like it?

SPEAKER_01 26:26

Pineapple chunks dried in a chili.

SPEAKER_06 26:30

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_01 26:31

And you just leave them in there for a while and they soften up and then I think they're a great surprise while you're eating.

SPEAKER_03 26:38

To be fair, when I was little, my mum used to make a curry with banana in it.

SPEAKER_01 26:42

Oh, what also my other thing is uh deep frying.

SPEAKER_06 26:51

Oh yeah. You what? Come on, tell me about this.

SPEAKER_01 26:56

You get the deep fat fryer, really hot.

SPEAKER_06 26:59

Right.

SPEAKER_01 27:00

You dunk your steak in it for about a minute, minute and a half.

SPEAKER_06 27:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:04

Both sides crispy, burnt, brown, absolutely delicious, pink in the middle.

SPEAKER_06 27:09

I'm gonna do this.

SPEAKER_03 27:10

I'm gonna come round and we're gonna experience I call it a scaby steak, steak. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:17

I wanted to open a steak scabies.

SPEAKER_03 27:19

Steak a la scabies.

SPEAKER_01 27:20

I wanted to open a steakhouse that I was gonna call the holy grill.

SPEAKER_03 27:26

Because you have you're looking for something, aren't you? Well, I do a bit of have you have you found it yet? Have you found the holy grill?

SPEAKER_01 27:32

I found several.

SPEAKER_02 27:36

Oh more treats for you? Oh wow. This is another thing. Black fiddle, broken angel head.

SPEAKER_06 27:43

You might have to be rolled onto stage later on. So sorry.

SPEAKER_00 27:47

Luckily, we don't have to fill in.

SPEAKER_06 27:50

It's just designing.

SPEAKER_00 27:52

I couldn't catch quite what do you said that was?

SPEAKER_06 27:54

It's Video. So it's um it's basically a version of paella. Oh. But it's made with squidding and uh a very strong fish stock, and then it's got uh like the scampy bits on it, and that's an aioli, and it's really, really it's a very famous dish, and it's you've got your me one coming scabies. Yeah, I mean this is very cool. Very cool. This this seems quite uh David Bunyan. Yeah, it's the same David's and him.

SPEAKER_02 28:22

He is now, he is now this is uh a Rose Camperas. The rice itself is kicking the roasted mushroom bonitas topped with iberico legato.

SPEAKER_06 28:36

Yum, this is delicious.

SPEAKER_03 28:38

Incredible so good.

SPEAKER_00 28:40

Yeah, this too.

SPEAKER_03 28:41

It tastes less golf than it looks. Like quite sweet and yeah, uploading it.

SPEAKER_00 28:46

It's actually very light as well, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. It looks heavy, beautiful.

SPEAKER_06 28:49

Oh that's so good. That is so the uh really good. This is um iberico pork, which is served um pink.

SPEAKER_01 28:57

So it's it's a really a good vet could bring that round in a train.

SPEAKER_02 29:07

Hey, so we have some that's milanesa. Yeah, we've garnished it with some cakers, some lush tomato calamato olive, yeah, and something for you salsa. We have uh anchovy brill, so we're showcasing cantabri and anchovy, the wit, smilted fresh fruit, cotton mousse, and lemon sauce. Lamon.

SPEAKER_06 29:23

Thank you so much. I'm like literally was trying to be elegant, but I'm gonna go in. I think it's a hand, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:29

I was gonna say it's a hand job, but that's it. It's a hand job.

SPEAKER_06 29:32

It's a hand job.

SPEAKER_02 29:38

This is the last of our savory offerings for this afternoon. So it's a skatewing tortilla. Oh wow.

SPEAKER_06 29:48

Wow. Thank you. That's game flier. Tortilla.

SPEAKER_00 29:51

Whoa.

SPEAKER_06 29:52

That's a genius. Oh. Is that delicious? Oh my god, go right, come on, after you.

SPEAKER_01 30:04

All the best bands were funny.

SPEAKER_03 30:06

Yeah, they have a sense of humour.

SPEAKER_01 30:09

Funny.

SPEAKER_03 30:09

Yeah, yeah. And I've decided last in a way. Yeah. Who is not funny?

SPEAKER_01 30:21

Mattie Smith. Not funny.

SPEAKER_03 30:25

Sorry, but she's great. But you're right, she's not funny. She's not a laugh.

SPEAKER_01 30:29

Tom Blaine, not funny.

SPEAKER_03 30:30

Oh really?

SPEAKER_06 30:31

No.

SPEAKER_03 30:32

What about Richard Hells? Oh, Richard Hell, surely funny. Richard's handsome.

SPEAKER_01 30:37

No. No, not funny.

SPEAKER_03 30:39

Not funny. Isn't it funny? The remote's definitely funny.

SPEAKER_01 30:42

Funny, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:42

So we're saying most Americans not funny? Neil dolls? No. Oh, Noodle Dolls' funny.

SPEAKER_01 30:47

Noodle dolls were funny.

SPEAKER_03 30:48

Okay, good. Alright, okay. Iggy.

SPEAKER_01 30:50

Blondie were funny. Iggy I'd say was funny.

SPEAKER_03 30:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:53

But nobody wants to be not funny.

SPEAKER_03 30:56

No. It's the worst thing in the world.

SPEAKER_01 30:57

If you ask like one of the jam, is Paul Weller funny? Paul Weller will say, yeah, I'm funny.

SPEAKER_03 31:05

Not funny.

unknown 31:06

No.

SPEAKER_03 31:07

I want to keep this going. Okay, we just like rattle off names of people. Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_01 31:12

I wanted to turn this into a TV show, funny or not funny.

SPEAKER_03 31:16

Okay, guns and roses. Funny or not? Not funny. Oh no. Sorry, babe. Okay, um. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 31:24

Bruce Springsteen. Not funny. Oh god.

SPEAKER_00 31:27

Do you need him to ask?

SPEAKER_06 31:28

Yeah, definitely not funny. Ollie. Do you what about Divo? Do you ever hang out with them?

SPEAKER_00 31:33

Funny.

SPEAKER_06 31:34

Yeah. Watch it. B52.

SPEAKER_01 31:36

Funny.

SPEAKER_06 31:37

Funny.

SPEAKER_03 31:37

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. What about Courtney? Courtney Love. She's petrified.

SPEAKER_01 31:42

Not funny.

SPEAKER_03 31:43

Not funny. Have you met her?

SPEAKER_01 31:45

One.

SPEAKER_03 31:45

And what happened?

SPEAKER_01 31:47

She dumped the baby on me and Joe's drummer and fucked up for three days.

SPEAKER_03 31:54

We're gonna need more information. What like? What did you do with this baby?

SPEAKER_01 31:59

We were um crushing. Me and Joe have been me and Joe. We'd been in the studio for a while and um he'd booked some rooms at the Mondrian.

SPEAKER_03 32:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 32:14

And we were out by the pool our first day off, and um that Wanker bloke turned up first. What was his name?

SPEAKER_05 32:24

Not Kirk. No, no, no, he was a big thing.

SPEAKER_01 32:29

Anyway, she turned up with Beanie or something.

SPEAKER_03 32:32

Francis Beanie, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:34

And then um just took off with his bloke down at the chalets. Um he was a singer, he was Oh, it wasn't from Smashing Pumpkins.

SPEAKER_03 32:43

Yeah, it could have been, wasn't it? Oh Billy Corgan. Was it Billy Corgan?

SPEAKER_01 32:46

No, I don't think it was him.

SPEAKER_03 32:48

Was it Eddie Vedder?

SPEAKER_01 32:49

No.

SPEAKER_03 32:49

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 32:51

So we went down to the studio to get you know carry on and then we got- with baby? No, no, we left the baby with Joe's wife.

SPEAKER_03 32:59

Right, okay, the baby wasn't just by the form.

SPEAKER_01 33:01

Well it was though.

SPEAKER_03 33:02

Sort of, in a way.

SPEAKER_01 33:04

And then um his missus rang up a few hours later and said, I don't know what to fucking do. I've still got a baby here.

SPEAKER_03 33:11

You're like supposed to be.

SPEAKER_01 33:12

She's vanished. And um, yeah. So we'll put it in some funny clothes.

SPEAKER_06 33:19

What clothes did you put it in?

unknown 33:21

I didn't.

SPEAKER_06 33:22

Oh, I would've I would have. Just put it in a little letter.

SPEAKER_03 33:25

Just dressed it up. I mean, I've got a cat.

SPEAKER_01 33:27

A little lumber check shirt.

SPEAKER_03 33:29

Oh, just put her in some merch, put her in a little damn shirt, you know, wrap the band.

SPEAKER_01 33:34

But that was it, seriously, you know, and luckily there were people around, you know, who were like, okay, you know, we're these to dealing with Courtney and this isn't the first time. And they took Beanie.

SPEAKER_03 33:48

Yeah. Yeah. Beanie babies.

SPEAKER_01 33:49

Francis Bean.

SPEAKER_03 33:50

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 33:51

And then a day or so later, you know, she claimed him back.

SPEAKER_03 33:54

Okay, so it was a memorable time, the time you met Courtney Love.

SPEAKER_01 33:58

Well, I didn't really meet it, she just sort of breezed past me. By the time you met her child. But I remember the um Jo's funeral when she threw herself over his coffin.

SPEAKER_03 34:08

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 34:08

And it was like you didn't really know it. No, him, no.

SPEAKER_03 34:11

Oh well that that was quite monstrous, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 34:14

But he was great, you see, I really loved Joe, I really loved working with him.

SPEAKER_03 34:17

And was he a guy like a West London pub guy as well? Is that how you knew him from that?

SPEAKER_01 34:21

Well, he his background was a bit more sophisticated. Right. Generally he lived in squats and he was very aware of himself, you know.

SPEAKER_03 34:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 34:28

But very, very funny. Yeah. Joe Strummer, funny.

SPEAKER_03 34:32

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 34:33

And you know, those few months I spent working with him were really some of the best I ever had.

SPEAKER_05 34:38

Really? Really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:39

Because, first of all, you were Royal Punk Rock Royalty. It didn't matter where you went, everybody was.

SPEAKER_03 34:46

Doors opened.

SPEAKER_01 34:47

Yeah, and I remember going to see uh Ministry.

SPEAKER_06 34:49

I love Ministry, they're one of my father favourite bands. This is a you thing. Yeah, very much a me thing.

SPEAKER_01 34:56

And then hooking up with Timothy Leary after the show.

SPEAKER_03 34:59

Right. What?

SPEAKER_01 35:00

And going back to the the hotel and uh meeting Al Jorgensen and hanging out with it.

SPEAKER_03 35:06

Can we go back to the Timothy? Sorry, wait a second, you met Timothy Leary at a ministry show.

SPEAKER_01 35:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:11

And did he give you any officers? Okay, and obviously a a fan of psychedelic substances, did he open up a little briefcase and offer you an effect?

SPEAKER_01 35:25

He spoke more about the space program.

SPEAKER_03 35:27

Okay. Okay, so things have moved on slightly.

SPEAKER_01 35:30

How it was all kind of unnecessary, you know, the whole Star Wars thing that and how it didn't really work and it was an offensive weapon and not a defensive weapon.

SPEAKER_07 35:40

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 35:40

So I spoke to him about that and helped him out of his wheelchair, and then we went up to Al Jorgensen's room.

SPEAKER_07 35:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:46

And I knocked on the door and he opened the door and he had um a tourniquet round his arm in his teeth.

SPEAKER_07 35:53

Oh fuck.

SPEAKER_01 35:53

And a syringe between every knuckle.

SPEAKER_07 35:56

Whoa!

SPEAKER_01 35:57

And he opened the door and he said, Come on in, Brad. I've been expecting you.

SPEAKER_03 36:03

Don't you like? Do you want ten minutes? You look like Disney. No. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:07

Absolutely brilliant. And he was one Al Jorgenson. Funny.

SPEAKER_00 36:15

I found Joe really serious. It was always really serious.

SPEAKER_01 36:19

He used to leave notes all around the studio. Because we were working on a Disney film. Right. And you come in in the morning, there'd be a note by the phone, like you're.

SPEAKER_06 36:28

What Disney film were you working on?

SPEAKER_01 36:30

Uh Gross Point Blank.

SPEAKER_06 36:31

Right, okay, so yeah. Not the little man. I was like, I was like.

SPEAKER_00 36:36

I'll tell you the most punk thing I think he did. His his first band was called the 101, like a pub rock band. Like my band. And we used to play together, Nashville.

SPEAKER_07 36:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:46

And they'd be supporting us. And he'd come in with his like, he had long hair at the time and his dog on a rope. And he was kind of living at a caravan or with some of this sort of scruffy old band and scruffy on Missus and that. And we just bought a couple of monitors, these things call monitors, so that so you could actually hear what he was doing. Yeah. So Joe goes, What them boxes on the stage there, Barry? He goes, Oh, monitors. So what did they do? Great, you can aim yourself for all that racket that they're playing. He said, Oh, I think I might get some of them. Uh-huh. And next week he turned up and he had uh this Jaffa Orange crate, and there was a 10-inch speaker screwed in into the crate. With a cut of wires coming up with no plug on the end of it, and he'd written in fell pen, monitor. So now it's a piece of old crap and shut it away. He bunny. And then he went to see his text pistols. Yeah. And next show he turned up, he'd stuck the band, he'd cut all his hair off, and joined the clash. And that was it.

SPEAKER_03 37:51

Shall we get the dessert men? I think they're sending it. They're sending pudding.

SPEAKER_06 37:55

Oh, they're sending pudding.

SPEAKER_03 37:57

No choice. Sorry.

SPEAKER_06 37:59

So the other thing we we ask is like, if that we were asking for everyone's sort of like favourite restaurants, if you were to kind of come, if you were gonna come into London for one day. No, you had more than one day because it sounds like if we got one day you can't do anything.

SPEAKER_00 38:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 38:14

So tell tell if your top three restaurants, we had to ask you. Yeah. First of all, London. They're all very very variable. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:23

Because I there's um really good Indian restaurant I go to in um Hutney.

SPEAKER_03 38:30

What's it called?

SPEAKER_01 38:31

Um saying about that.

SPEAKER_03 38:33

Okay, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:35

Um the story goes that when that bloke in Adam Deck had that car crash.

SPEAKER_03 38:41

I believe that was Anne.

SPEAKER_01 38:43

And they and they paid off. They opened this restaurant called Pure.

SPEAKER_03 38:48

Right.

SPEAKER_01 38:49

Which is right by Putney Bridge.

SPEAKER_03 38:51

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 38:52

Amazing food. I mean, you know, consistently amazing. And I think one of the issues I always have is if I go there and it's not good food every time I go there, then you why would you bother? Yeah, why risk it again? But this place I think that's one of my food place.

SPEAKER_03 39:10

And what's your what's your curry order? Do you always have the same setup? Are you a rice guy or are you a non-bred guy?

SPEAKER_00 39:17

Everything. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 39:19

One of everything.

SPEAKER_06 39:19

It's the one thing that if you're if you're vegetarian vegan, you know you're gonna be able to get it. I go for ball tea.

SPEAKER_01 39:26

But I was I I was going vegetarian a year or so, so every time I'd go in there, I'd always get my mate, who's another vegetarian, and we just order a bunch of stuff.

SPEAKER_06 39:35

Well, this is it. You can just you can really go to town on with Indian food.

SPEAKER_01 39:38

And I don't know what it is.

SPEAKER_00 39:41

But you know that it's good. We went to Basel Heath, which is where the Balties started. They had table nans, which were literally as big as the table. You bring the bolties in a little silver dish, like 99 pence a pound or something. Oh wow. It's a massive great table now, just ripped bits off. Absolutely fantastic.

SPEAKER_06 40:00

That sounds good, I think. Is it a curry mile or they kind of like this?

SPEAKER_00 40:05

Yeah, I think it's called curry mile, yeah, yeah. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 40:10

Okay, sweetie. Show me a freshly fried churros. Wow. Amazing. And everybody gets their own pot.

SPEAKER_06 40:17

Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_02 40:18

Of spice. That's a quality Dolce de Luche. Oh, right. Utilising every winter spice and magic.

SPEAKER_01 40:25

Yeah, as well.

SPEAKER_03 40:26

I mean that kind of session and spice, like that is absolutely good. Can we do a shop? I'm gonna drink the leftovers.

SPEAKER_06 40:35

Should we do a shop?

SPEAKER_01 40:36

No, no, no.

SPEAKER_06 40:39

Oh, yeah, should we put some tequila in there? Jesus Christ. You know what? That is a very good idea. Would you do it if we had tequila in there?

SPEAKER_01 40:44

Yeah, I would.

SPEAKER_06 40:45

Yeah, go on. Are we pouring this into there? Will it curdle? I'd do, I'd go that way to that way. Alright.

SPEAKER_01 40:53

Well, I'm gonna wait and see what happens.

SPEAKER_06 40:55

Okay, right. It won't curdle, no. Okay. But let's go like this. All right. Fingering my drink. What a way to finish.

SPEAKER_03 41:00

Oh, middle finger and everything. Mr. Yours. It looks like it's uh like the perfect colour of a cup of tea there, actually.

SPEAKER_06 41:07

It is a perfect cup of tea. We can just pretend.

SPEAKER_03 41:10

Yeah, you don't have to.

SPEAKER_01 41:11

I'll do a line.

SPEAKER_06 41:12

Oh, it's a line. I think it's a line. I'm gonna give it a little bit of a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 41:17

When you think something like this, surely you should have the spout.

SPEAKER_06 41:19

Yeah, let's go down the sp down the spout. Down the spout. Spout down the spell. Thank you so much for covering. It's been lucky. Oh my god, what are we doing? What should we do?

SPEAKER_01 41:28

Pretty head, it just fucking.

SPEAKER_06 41:31

Oh jeez. That was delicious. It has curdled a bit. Okay, back on to the phone. Okay, we're gonna have to go to the quick fire. Let's go to pudding. What's your favourite pudding?

SPEAKER_00 41:42

Oh, um uh sticky toffee.

SPEAKER_01 41:44

Yeah the um the French one with the pears.

SPEAKER_06 41:49

Oh my god. Like a plum. You know, when I just it's a bit of a half pay for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know exactly what you mean, and I'm I should know this, but I'm pissed. Um restaurant you're dying to try.

unknown 42:02

Oh.

SPEAKER_06 42:02

Is there any way you really want to go?

SPEAKER_01 42:05

I wanted to try Heston Blumenthal's just to tell him that he's a cunt and it's probably anyway.

SPEAKER_06 42:15

Thank you. I'm yeah, thank you so much. That would this was a nice plant.