Ep. 55 - The Slack Doctors Episode 55 Modern Medicine and Toll Roads

Dr. Bob bitches some more about the medical field. Dr. Chip tried to poach a maid, and rants about the F.D.O.T. tolls and stupid road signs. The Docs finish reacting to Big Brother Rockstar Edition... Then Dr. Chip gets a rather visceral reaction from Bob with a video clip full of neck cracking horror. Was young Tim Dillon a baller? What's actually worse today, students or teachers? We witness when gaming goes too too far. The Docs check out a new Chinese cooking show, haters will say it's A.I..Where have all the recording studios gone?

Transcript

SPEAKER_05 0:19

All right, and we're back with another episode of the Slack Doctors. Um, but I am Dr. Chip. I am still Dr. Bob. Uh I got a a bunch of things to talk about today, um which I was gonna start off with some uh F D O T stuff, but uh you you said you had something you wanted to talk about first, so I'll let you go kick it off.

SPEAKER_03 0:37

Uh oh just brief, just brief, Dr. and that shenanigans again. I had to uh I got a procedure coming up next week where I talked to you about. I think we're gonna tape Monday and Wednesday just in case things go awry. But uh today was they, you know, they call it pre-op. It's not really for an operation though, but whatever, the pre-procedural. And I assume there would be like chest x-rays or anything. Literally, the only thing they did, aside to talk about my medication list, which is information that the the guy doing the procedure already has and could have easily done. No x-rays, no blood work, just blood pressure vitals, and then they literally made me open my mouth and say, ah, and took a picture of my mouth. Now, the guy who I saw to arrange for this is the guy who's gonna be doing the procedure. Why wouldn't he just ask me to open my mouth and go, uh-uh? He could literally have looked right then and there instead of scheduling all of this complete nonsense. And also, it's at a hospital that I hate where it's like going to an airport, there's no parking, you gotta park, you know, a couple of blocks away, and then it everything is a maze, and all the offices are inside the hospital. The whole thing is a disaster. I'm not looking forward to it in any way, shape, or form.

SPEAKER_05 1:42

Well, I can tell you why you have the unnecessary visit, but you know why. Anyone get away from it? Yeah, yeah. You know why.

SPEAKER_03 1:50

Obviously. But I mean, yeah, yeah, it's just ridiculous. Yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_05 1:54

And speaking of wasteful fraud, oh wait, I wanted to add one other thing, too, as far as funny doctor stuff, right?

SPEAKER_03 2:00

So I get a call a couple of days ago from my marijuana card doctor. I don't know what with the proper terminology is or whatever. Your weed doctor. I think the state of Florida, yeah, the weed doctor. State of Florida requires you to see them every seven months or six months, something like that. Really? And once a year you've got to, you know, to get your keep your recommendation going, or whatever.

SPEAKER_05 2:20

Make sure you still have anxiety.

SPEAKER_03 2:22

Yeah, or whatever, glaucoma, chronic pain, whatever it is you got. So the the uh she left me a message that the secretary, whatever, saying, you know, call us back at this number. So I call her back yesterday at the number, and um she says, uh I tell her who I am, and then she says, Would you like to make an appointment for a telehealth conference, or would you like to just handle it right now? And I think, okay, well, let's go ahead and she goes, okay. She goes, Do you need any changes made to your you know your allotment or anything? And I'm like, nope, everything's fine. She goes, Any changes in your address or any of that? I'm like, nope. She goes, Okay, let me put you on hold for just a second. Puts me on hold for about 30, 45 seconds, comes back after 45 seconds and says, Okay, you're all set. Let's do your payment. Give me your credit card number. There you go. Like, didn't didn't talk to the doctor, didn't see the doctor. She's not a nurse, just random, you know. I'm not gonna give the names of any of these companies or anything, but holy Jesus! It was ridiculous that anybody thinks three visits that I have to do to get a procedure done, and all you know, the the bullshit extraneous paperwork and all that. And this is just like, here you go. Then she goes, We'll be sending you some emails. Uh, please fill them out whenever you get it. And she kind of made it sound like it didn't even really matter. So I I'm thinking these are just gonna be like a survey or something like because everybody wants a fucking survey now, no matter what you do. Can't buy a sandwich without them wanting your email address so you can fill out a survey about how the pickle was. But uh, so I go to open it and read it, and it's not a survey, it's my intake form. It's my please list the reasons why. You know what I mean? Like it's it's an important, it's something that most assuredly should have been handled before uh the credit card payment process. It's a joke. I had already received an email from the state of Florida saying you're everything's hunky-dory before I even got the email from the doctor asking me to fill out whatever it was he wanted me to fill out, which I did dutifully, I might add, because you know, it's all it is legit. And I and before this guy, I had other weed doctors that were took their job far more seriously, you know, and had to had to go sit down with them and see him in person and you know, spend 40 minutes or whatever. Like not like this. This was uh very different.

SPEAKER_05 4:36

Speaking of having to give your give your email address. I called some chick about cleaning my apartment today, and she's like, Okay, yeah, give me your email address. Will you email you uh I don't even think I gave it to her? I was like, you don't understand. I don't uh I actually I took that opportunity to tell her, like, look, you're being able to take cash or a check, right? It's not gonna be like a Venmo.

SPEAKER_03 4:56

Apparently, and I can see how somebody whose job is entering uh men's homes. I can see maybe you might want some sort of paper trailer.

SPEAKER_05 5:04

I really was just trying to catch the chick because I it's this the chick I talked to isn't even the chick that does the cleaning, she apparently runs the business, but I tried to just catch because it's a chick that cleans next door. So I was like, listen, I just need my kitchen, my bathroom, I'll just pay you cash. But they were insistent I go through the proper channels. I'm like, okay, whatever.

SPEAKER_03 5:22

Right, because otherwise it's poaching and moonlighting, and then you yeah.

SPEAKER_05 5:26

Whatever. She's next door anyway. Whatever. But um the speaking of fraud and and and uh waste and stuff like that, dude. Our f our F D O T is just it's just a joke. All right. First of all, just today on the way down here, I'm coming down, and you know those flash and billboard things that have the silver alerts or you know, traffic slowing down in five miles, whatever, yada yada yada. I'm going by one of them and it literally says, I I don't know if it said your mom or mom says to buckle up. Now, I'm sure you've heard the phrase read the room. Well, I at that point I thought to myself, read the road. Who the fuck is this sign for? Your mom is reading the sign, you dumbass. This is Florida. No, you kids don't drive. You kids use Uber and and Lyft and stuff. This is your mom is reading the signs. It's so stupid. All right. And then beyond that, I'm gonna see if I can share this document. Uh documents that I have.

SPEAKER_03 6:25

It's also not not a sign anybody who's lost their mom wants to read. You know, thanks for the reminder.

SPEAKER_05 6:30

Exactly. Yeah, everybody else is like, yeah, my mom's been dead for years, dumbass. What are you talking about? Anyway, so uh I I I remember I mentioned many episodes ago about not getting a uh bill for uh for tolls for forever, and then I got the bill for 13 bucks. I mentioned that. I didn't even look at the uh, you know how they itemized the bill. I didn't even look at that one. I just paid it through that the itemized part away. I didn't even look. I was like, yeah, that sounds about right. I'm not even gonna bother. So now I've gotten two more bills, and they make absolutely no sense. Absolutely no sense whatsoever. Now, before I show you these bills, there's there it is complicated because uh there I have two vehicles. I have a motorcycle and a car, so that's two different license plates. They have a motorcycle and a jeep. You can drive a car. Yeah, correct. Sorry. Um, and we're only dealing with two toll with two different toll rolls, which one is the express lane on 95, and the other is the sawgrass. Right. I don't think I've ever gotten a bill from the sawgrass. Right. But I'm paying for it. As you'll see, I'll I'll show you right here. If you read any of this, it makes no sense whatsoever. Basically, this bill says I owe eleven dollars or something like that. But then down at the at the bottom, it says I owe four dollars and fifty cents. All right. So that's not what I pay. You know, I I paid that. I paid the four dollars, whatever. Okay. This one, I think the bottom uh total comes to like sixteen dollars or something like that. And then the total I owe says thirty-three dollars. It makes no sense. And all these from both of these invoices are all from the express lane.

SPEAKER_03 8:07

I'm not bougie enough to own several vehicles, so I want to ask, do they do they put them all together just under your license? Or do you get separate bills and invoices for each vehicle?

SPEAKER_05 8:16

No, the one with the few with just like the four, that's for the Jeep. The one with the money, that's for the bike. So you do get two different, but I haven't gotten either one from Sawgrass. None of them. Obviously, I just paid for Sawgrass since there's 33 bucks that unaccounted for, you know. Clearly, four and and sixteen don't equal thirty-three, so somehow I paid for it. Isn't it it's like one exit or something on sawgrass, though, when you get off a 95? Uh, I don't think it goes by exits. It's just once you get on, you get charged. That's it, no matter how far you go. But yeah, I go from the beginning to university. It's not by far.

SPEAKER_03 8:53

Didn't get a ticket, didn't pick up one of your little length of the turnpike.

SPEAKER_05 8:57

No, sawgrass isn't like that. I think sawgrass, once you go on it, you get charged. You can go to all the way the end, you can go to one exit. I don't think it matters. But and it's not much. I don't think it's very much, but uh yeah, it's just so ridiculous. I'm looking at these bills trying to figure it out. I'm like, I don't what the hell's going on here? It's so ridiculous. Anyway. Enough of the uh Florida Department of Transportation ridiculousness. All right, so we started watching uh uh a video last episode that I wanted to finish because it's just so hilarious. So I believe this is right where we left off from last episode. And if and if anybody didn't watch last episode, this is basically a VH1 uh TV show that somehow slipped under my radio radar that that is just hilarious, where they put all these rock stars together and and and and give them a couple weeks of time. We we did, but there's many, many, many laughs yet to have in this video.

SPEAKER_01 9:53

Watch Anushka to join the adult film business that he co-owned with his then wife Terra Patrick.

SPEAKER_06 10:04

I think I can make her famous.

SPEAKER_01 10:05

I can make her with the star. Then later on in the same episode, Jason Bonham had to leave for prior commitments to play two shows.

SPEAKER_05 10:14

Yeah, very, very little. But I think the guy did I I don't know. I've never heard of that guy before this, so I have no idea. But anyway.

SPEAKER_01 10:22

The band Foreign. This is what they do about this is hilarious. They brought in a human beatboxer named Kidbeon to replace Jason Bonham. That's right. You you heard him right.

SPEAKER_03 10:40

Yeah, yeah. It's funny, is from the clip that just a second ago when they were showing the guy beatboxing. At first I was like, is that the guy from Anthrax beatboxing? Because all I saw was the bald head.

SPEAKER_05 10:50

I'm like, there's no way that's a different guy. It's a different guy, as we'll see. Here you go.

SPEAKER_01 10:55

And the band, as you can imagine, was a palt. This is where the clash between musical integrity and producer-driven drama became perfectly.

SPEAKER_03 11:02

What the idea was it to bring that guy in in the first place? The people in the show.

SPEAKER_08 11:08

Tell them to go home.

SPEAKER_04 11:09

It may be interesting for two minutes to at least listen to the case.

SPEAKER_03 11:14

Yeah, just it's just the producers in the background stirring the shit space. Absolutely. Trying to instigate everything possibly, like they do on all reality shows. Of course, it's reality. And it's working.

SPEAKER_08 11:24

Jason's gonna come in and say, What the f Jason?

SPEAKER_03 11:29

At what point does Ted pull out a bow and just starting?

SPEAKER_08 11:34

I'll tell you one thing. You get another lead singer in here while I'm at uh running or something, I'll punch his f head in. Okay, so don't get any ideas about that. This is my man.

SPEAKER_03 11:43

What is he what does Sebastian Bach weigh? A buck oh five soaking wet? No, no, dude.

SPEAKER_05 11:48

No, Sebastian Bach's like 6'4, dude. He's as skinny as a rail. No, he's not. He's not one of those skinny dudes. He's got some meat on the bones. I wouldn't fuck with Sebastian Bach. He's a big fat motherfucker. He would punch somebody in the face. Even if he was a skinny guy, he would do it. But he ain't that skinny, trust me. He's pretty big. Okay.

SPEAKER_08 12:08

We don't need that.

SPEAKER_04 12:09

I'll bring you in there and you can torture him like you've tortured everybody else.

SPEAKER_02 12:12

And just because I don't use a drum kit doesn't mean I can't rock as hard as any member of the Bonham family. Yes, it does.

SPEAKER_06 12:19

Shut the f door, it sucks!

SPEAKER_01 12:25

Sebastian Bach took the most direct action, literally slamming the door in the beatboxer's face. Now with Jason Bonham finally returning, the focus shifted to songwriting, which brought the next major conflict. The band had been working on a song called Take It Back. They brought it to veteran producer Rob Cavallo, known for his work with Green Day, to offer a professional opinion. Cavallo listened and then delivered a pretty brutal assessment. He said the song sounded dated.

SPEAKER_05 12:54

You think there's no there's no person of color in there. There's nobody from country. So all the genres that are represented today are not in that room. There's no possible way you're gonna get a bunch of guys from the 90s, 80s, and as far back as the 70s and not get something dated. I mean, what the what the f and that but here even better than that, watch their reaction to being called dated.

SPEAKER_09 13:33

Oh, because you know the the song is so dated. The song is so dated, dated, dated. You know, the song is so dated.

SPEAKER_02 13:43

I still think that the most obnoxious and repugnant and inapplicable word in the history of rock and roll is here it comes.

SPEAKER_05 13:54

This is like this is literally like reflects today's politics so much. Like it if if it hadn't been used against them, then then well yeah, dated best. Yeah, every that's a common turn, of course. We all know what that means. Now that it was used against them, oh, it's repugnant. Here we go, hold on.

SPEAKER_10 14:12

Dated. The problem is it's not really relevant to today, it feels like something from the 80s. The 80s. The 80s has not been relevant. You think it feels like something from the 80s? And when kids hear that kind of stuff, I don't think they're gonna get it. I don't get it.

SPEAKER_02 14:28

There is no higher authority ever than me on what is right or wrong about my music.

SPEAKER_10 14:35

The other kind of thing that I was thinking of for something that would be interesting would be something that has a little more of a punk flavor. Bonham doesn't play punk.

SPEAKER_02 14:42

I don't feel um I ate a punk.

SPEAKER_10 14:44

Punk is dated too. Punk music is what I would like to bring to the flavor. Probably be easier if I just got on a drum kit and showed you.

SPEAKER_05 14:52

At the same time, now I should mention that I I guess we we either missed that part or it was before, but this producer, I guess, is big because he produced Green Day. So that's the thing. He's like a punk dude, so he's like, yeah, he may, you know, maybe and he's right though, even punk is dated. It's still white guys.

SPEAKER_03 15:12

Now enlighten me as far as Jason Bonham, aside from parentage, and I don't not so sure that drumming is hereditary. What what bands was he in before, you know, like uh that's a good one.

SPEAKER_05 15:24

Is he a good drummer? He is he is a good drummer, he he's quite good.

SPEAKER_03 15:28

Um his father was a hell of a drummer, but that doesn't allow the same thing.

SPEAKER_05 15:33

I might he might have been in the firm, if I'm but I I'm not sure about that. But I don't I I don't think he was in any giant successful rock bands. He's been in a lot of minor, like minor hit bands, I think. I I don't know. I that's a good question. And of course, you know, anytime like if if what's left of Zeppelin wants to go out and play, if they have bring him along, it's more of a, you know. But anyway. All right, here we go.

SPEAKER_01 15:59

But while the feedback stung, it was a necessary dose of reality, forcing the band to confront the skinny didn't automatically. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:06

All right, I take it back.

SPEAKER_01 16:08

Soon the creative tension was dwarfed by personal friction, egos began to flare. And the example that's repeated throughout the series is Bach, who would keep his bandmates waiting while he would go exercise and go for jogs, much to the annoyance of his bandmates. Coming up.

SPEAKER_08 16:30

I gotta go running, dude.

SPEAKER_07 16:31

Usually constitutes a band meeting when the band's there. Obviously, it's better to be on time and keep to a schedule, but it is rock and roll.

SPEAKER_05 16:40

You're watching the Slack Doctors. That's pretty good. But like, listen, like these guys have never dealt with a, you know, uh, you know, uh uh what do they call the egotistical uh what the fuck the fucking word for the for the opera stars again? Uh diva. Narcissists. No, no, diva. They're divas. You know, you've never getting closer to the mic. Yeah, you've never you've never experienced a diva before. Come on, what kind of rock and roll stars are you? What's going on here?

SPEAKER_01 17:19

Then Doc McGee brings in a stylist who the band members, of course, clash with.

SPEAKER_02 17:24

Yeah, PR people are consumed with imagery, and I always think that Ted Nugent needs an imagery.

SPEAKER_03 17:31

I gotta grow a goatee like that. Just a little stripe, little mohawk stripe right in the dead center of my chin. I could do it, probably do it in two days. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 17:40

And he's here talking about people and image. He's got that thing on his face. Here we go.

SPEAKER_02 17:44

Maybe they can advise me of things I can say.

SPEAKER_08 17:46

Hey man, how you doing? You guys do mass employees, right? I'm a box street boy.

SPEAKER_02 17:54

Share your wisdom with us. How do we penetrate that ever suspicious media? What's your pitch? We're gonna talk about this thing.

SPEAKER_06 17:59

We're gonna have to do this. That's just buzzwords, right? How are you spinning this thing? We're gonna vertically integrate it and move forward. We're gonna monetize the thing and streamline it. What's the what's the what's happening there, guys?

SPEAKER_00 18:07

They jumped screaming at us. I just sat there going, wow, I've never been in a situation as a publicist where they have felt like I was there to harm them.

SPEAKER_20 18:15

We've never talked to speak. We specialize in bringing entertainment stories to the media.

SPEAKER_07 18:22

You want people to do it? Oh god, today was the worst ADD session of everybody talking over everybody. What's that? You can do a dog collar?

SPEAKER_05 18:32

Probably.

SPEAKER_08 18:33

When we talk, every one of us, you're not. No, all of us. Not every one of us. Well, we haven't finished talk yet. None of us can get our thought out. Let's hear everybody and then our capabilities.

SPEAKER_19 18:45

I'm not sure. We have the largest men's magazine in the country, Maxim. Right on shooting you guys. If you need something in Las Vegas, remember magazines talk about dated.

SPEAKER_05 18:55

Right? Maxim, remember that? Oh, speaking of which, but this isn't nothing to do with what we're talking about, but I just watched a thing about uh uh Ty from the uh We're not going to Mars put out this thing about it's really wild. He put out a cartoon that was out of that uh magazine heavy metal, like way back in the 90s, that literally has Trump uh doing exactly what he's doing. It's really wild. Anyway, but that's on X, and uh anyway. We'll talk about that later. But this this is this is still pretty funny.

SPEAKER_18 19:31

Yeah, let's get to work. Okay. So here's what I'm thinking. I've got some visuals. I want to do sort of a neo futuristic.

SPEAKER_13 19:41

I don't think that's gonna I know what I'm wearing. I have my own image of it.

SPEAKER_18 19:45

You know what you're wearing already?

SPEAKER_13 19:46

I know what I'm wearing already.

SPEAKER_18 19:47

You have an outfit already.

SPEAKER_05 19:49

Yeah, I know what I'm wearing. Dude, you're gonna try and reinvent these guys' look? Good luck. Could you imagine wear uniforms? We should all wear something different, man. Could you imagine these guys coming coming out on stage looking like the backstreet boys or something like that? It'd be fucking hilarious.

SPEAKER_08 20:12

I thought the guys were a little insensitive to her because she was trying her best, and I thought that they could have been a little more hospitable.

SPEAKER_05 20:22

And I like your host because he wanted to bang it.

SPEAKER_17 20:25

Let's hear my ideas up and then we'll talk. Fair enough? Yes. Fair enough? Yes. Okay, great.

SPEAKER_02 20:30

I don't need a uh fashion consultant. And in fact, I do for humor. So I can laugh him out of the damn room.

SPEAKER_17 20:38

So I want to do this thing that's kind of give the nudes one thing. He has been consistent with his fashion.

SPEAKER_03 20:43

He's been rocking the same look for a very long time.

SPEAKER_05 20:45

Exactly. You're not gonna get him to wear anything else. It's insane. None of these guys. They've all had the same look from day one. How many hats?

SPEAKER_18 20:52

Rock stars. So, like the the rock stars from the future came back. Don't groan, Evan. What if uh the ultimate rock band came down, you know, from this other world? What would they look like and sound like and do?

SPEAKER_03 21:07

It would be things like that.

SPEAKER_18 21:08

Think like Van Helsing. Something like lots of like grounded in rock, deconstructive, slightly like almost like homeless urchin.

SPEAKER_05 21:17

What was that cartoon that was on like robot chicken or something like that with those four guys that were like the heavy metal dudes?

SPEAKER_03 21:23

Uh metalloc metallocalypse, something like that. I can't think of the name. I can't sound it, but yeah, it was a good one.

SPEAKER_05 21:29

I think that's a metallocopolis or something like that. Yeah, yeah. I think that's what Ted Nugent invented.

SPEAKER_03 21:35

But they were also like superheroes, right?

SPEAKER_05 21:36

Right, right. But they ever the only thing they ever wore was like cut-off t shirts or whatever. That's that's trying to make these guys do that. It's the same thing.

SPEAKER_01 21:45

This is the goddamn with it.

SPEAKER_05 21:47

Edit out these stupid commercials.

SPEAKER_01 21:50

This is the Ridge magnetic. However, the most serious threat to the project was Sebastian Bach's behavior. It was prior to filming the show, Bach had done a stint on Broadway. Performing as part of Jesus Christ Super.

SPEAKER_05 22:02

Alright, now this I didn't know. I would pay to see that.

SPEAKER_03 22:06

What's that? Yeah. Did he play in JC or was he playing uh Jesus?

SPEAKER_05 22:10

Yeah, he looks like he's the lead guy playing, you know, Jesus Christ. And then but Title Roll, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:16

I'm reading it down there. Yeah. Title Roll.

SPEAKER_05 22:18

And then when you and when then when you know this, what they're about to say makes it even more hilarious. Here we go.

SPEAKER_01 22:23

Superstar. And he'd soon fallen into the habit of drinking wine every night. Now Bach's behavior grew more erratic, culminating in a dramatic confrontation. During a discussion, Bach and Bonham clashed over whether the drummer should make eye contact with the front man. Then later that evening, Bach's behavior became what other members described.

SPEAKER_05 22:40

All right, all right, wait a minute. Right there. What? Why? Was he arguing for or against making eye contact with the drummer? Because I can tell you right now, if you're off beat, you're gonna want to make eye contact with the drummer, or at least look at his hands. Yeah, this the whole the amount of what they talk about and rules of the makeup is just ridiculous, but here's out of control.

SPEAKER_01 23:03

This is where Evan Seinfeld finally snapped. Furious, he pushed Bach and attempted to throw a punch. The message was clear.

SPEAKER_11 23:17

This is gone right, we're not playing.

SPEAKER_07 23:21

In the aftermath, a tearful.

SPEAKER_05 23:23

Okay, the eventual and always uh always entertaining fist fight. I've seen a couple of fist fights in bands. I've never been in one. I've been close, but I think the ultimate fight, uh band-related uh fight was our our mutual friend Davy D once was doing a gig with uh the Mighty Quinn on, I think it was uh St. Paddy's Day, and they were playing outside in uh Lake Worth. And for whatever reason, they they used to have this singer named Like Mike Lynn uh Mike? Yeah, I think it was Mike Lenarchek or something like that. And this guy was just a he was a handful. Let's just put it that way. He we he was he was like he was kind of like Sebastian a little bit. He was he was liked his drink, got a little, got a little handsy with with girls all the time. We used to get in trouble for that a lot. But anyway, this particular day, apparently I run into the guy, I come in after, I come down to Lakeworth afterwards, after they're done playing. I run into this guy, Mike, and he lifts up his shirt and he goes, Look at this. And it looks like somebody stabbed him. I thought somebody had stabbed him with a knife or something like that. I go, what the hell happened to you? He goes, uh, DVD hit me with a mic stand. Apparently, Davey D launched a mic stand across the stage at him. Wow, and anyway. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So anyway, that's that's about the best band fight story ever.

SPEAKER_07 24:46

Hey, dude. Sorry, man. And of course, that's the painful loss that fueled Sebastian's drinking. Lost, drinking numbs it out for a minute, and then it just worse tomorrow. Leading to an ultimatum. You can't drink, dude. All right. But just a few hours after he swore off liquor, the promise was broken.

SPEAKER_08 25:02

Eat drink and be fat drunk.

SPEAKER_02 25:05

If he's drinking before the show, I ain't blowing.

SPEAKER_01 25:08

And this is something Bach confirmed in his book. But he also stated that he grew uncomfortable with what he claimed was Ted Nugent telling everyone on set that he was black and using the N-word freely around crew members. What happened next was perhaps the most unexpected twist in the entire series. Seinfeld approached the one person he might thought get through to Bach, Ted Nugent. He explained that Bach looked up to Ted like a father figure, and in a moment of surprising responsibility, the Motor City Madman took on the role of mentor. He confronted Bach directly and forbade him from drinking any more alcohol. Shocked into the client.

SPEAKER_03 25:46

That's true. Very outside about it for forever.

SPEAKER_05 25:49

You know what else is we kind of wild about this when you think about it. If he played Jesus Christ, let's go down the rabbit hole that like Jesus Christ didn't die on the on the cross, and like the you know, the Masons or the Stone Templar or whoever says and went up into France and then ended up in Scotland. What if he also turned into a wino? Who would have who would have been his in remembrance of me? I mean who would have been his Ted Nugent to talk him down from the anyway? Here we go.

SPEAKER_01 26:17

Agreed. And in a bizarre turn of events, the hard parting frontman had unofficially been adopted by the straight-edge bow hunting Ted Nugent.

SPEAKER_02 26:25

I love you. Okay, but I love you with a crowbar. Which is why I want to talk to you. You are so gifted. You got it all. I want Sebastian Bach, not kinda, and not almost. No more drinking. Not even a sip. It reduces.

SPEAKER_08 26:48

No, no, no, no. No, no.

SPEAKER_02 26:50

You you let's put it this way. Does it enhance the fun factor? Only for a burp, and then it turns into dumb guy. And and I mean you. Remember when you went off and got thrown in jail because drinking. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 27:03

Okay. Alright, so this could this is really a wasted episode. This could have been the best episode of intervention ever.

SPEAKER_03 27:10

And let's be honest. I mean, yeah, drinking is destructive, but these are world-class rock stars we're talking about. Where's the heroin? Where's the speedballs? Where's the meth? Where's the, you know, these guys are drinking wine at that? Not at all. Not even a bottle of jack. The structure motorized permalist system.

SPEAKER_01 27:31

In June of 2006, as the show was airing, Democracy released three demo tracks on their MySpace page, a relic of the era itself. MySpace. Bach himself would later admit the demos were of extremely low quality and that if they recorded them properly, they would have likely sounded completely different. The entire experiment culminated with a one-night only concert at the Empire Ballroom in Las Vegas. This was the grand finale. They took to the stage and ripped through a set list that included their new songs, alongside cover tunes from their own catalog, like Skid Row's Youth Gone Wild, Anthraxes Only, and Ted Nugent's Cat Scratch Fever. For one night, that bickering finally stopped. They were loud, messy, and unapologetically a rock and roll band. And at the end of the show, Scott Ian expressed a desire to continue, stating that he didn't want it to end. But the show concluded with an on-screen text assuring viewers that the band was continuing to work together, leaving a glimmer of hope that this chaotic experiment might actually have a future. But that hope was short-lived. After the camera stopped rolling, the deafening sound that followed Democracy was silence. There was no album, there was no tour, all five members immediately returned to their day jobs. Bach went back to his solo career, Ian went back to anthrax, Bonham went back to Foreigner, and Seinfeld went back to Biohazard, while Ted Nugent split his time between touring and hunting. The band that was forged in the crucible of reality TV seemed to evaporate the moment the spotlight was turned off. For four years the name existed in a state of limbo, but finally in 2010, the band officially split up, though it was merely a formality. They hadn't produced any new material or played a single show since that one night in Vegas. And they never should have. I think they tried to bring it back. Perfect. All right, so that's the excuse.

SPEAKER_05 29:30

No Ted Junjun. Well, guess what? Get get Trent Reznor. Get uh the guy from the weekend. Get somebody that won't make it so goddamn dated and try again. You actually might or better yet get a whole new pack of dudes. Or better yet, just don't do it. I don't know how this show didn't succeed. I don't I I don't think there's much much more left worth watching on this episode, but it was it was hilarious. I I remember watching that, I was like dying, dying laughing.

SPEAKER_03 29:59

Yeah, that was a poorly conceived project, and it was executed just as badly, I would say.

SPEAKER_05 30:04

I don't know. I I thought I don't know how that I don't know how first of all, I don't know how that show slipped under my radar. I don't know how to I just recently never never heard of that. That I think that would have been a great show. That's almost as good as the show that my buddy Davey D came up with, which is basically a ripoff on uh on what is it, what's the bar? Bar rescue, and his idea is band rescue, which is not a bad idea. I think it'd be pretty hilarious, but you know, anyway. All right, you got anything to any clips to show?

SPEAKER_03 30:32

Uh I got a couple of clips. Um you want to do that? I think we only have one, I think you only left one message. You want to do that first? Oh, yeah, yeah. All right, we'll do the call first.

SPEAKER_04 31:17

All these chicks are gonna get fake breaths anyway, so it doesn't matter. They can put them back in later.

SPEAKER_03 31:22

All right. I'm gonna have to pause because I gotta argue. I mean, I'm hoping you were just being sarcastic or facetious because there's a big difference between getting augmentation later and getting your complete memories taken out before you ever have a chance to breed or potentially need to nurse a child or play the rest of it. Play the rest of it first.

SPEAKER_04 31:40

It's not like there are any girls walking around that don't have faith tips. So yeah, the breasts can go, they can come, they can go, they can come. It really doesn't fucking matter anymore today. Come on, let's let's be serious. Compared to the you know, the the puberty altering drugs or the surgeries, the bottom surgeries they're doing where they're you know no longer going to be, you know, able to have any kids, not even imagined, not even able to have any kind of orgasm ever in life. So yeah. This is the last thing I'd be worried about later.

SPEAKER_05 32:11

Yeah, hopefully I'm conveying yourself because yeah, the point being that yeah, that's the worst. That's the if you're completely you're worried about trans kids, the least thing I would worry about all that other stuff first. Then no, they're cutting their tits off. Yeah, yeah, that was kind of silly.

SPEAKER_03 32:28

Yeah, it's it's a very permanent solution to what is more often than not a temporary condition. People, I mean, the little kids want to be all kinds of things, have active imaginations. You don't let them get tattoos, you don't let them, you know, sign contracts, there's all kinds of things you can't do when your mind hasn't fully developed. But I would say that permanently altering your your biology is probably on that list, should be anyway.

SPEAKER_05 32:53

Okay, now going back to the tit talk, because I don't think I did know any the distinction of you're saying that there's one kind of surgery where they remove everything and then but that's the same thing they do if you get breast cancer, right? Yes, but that's a that's not done cosmetically. Uh it's done uh preemptively, apparently. Yeah, but it's it's for a life-saving, you know, well to reduce the risk. Potentially life you know they're having them, you know, remove just in case, right? Some some some people, yeah. Yeah, which is insane, but yeah. All right, all right. So let that let's get to the clips then.

SPEAKER_03 33:29

All right, so I got another I got two clips back to back for you. And I gotta say, I think I know what you've got to do. You wanted my true raw reaction. You shouldn't have sent it to me. You should have just played it and made me see it on the air. I know. But you did at least warn me with a big, I think the subject of the email was you're not gonna like this. You should explain why you're not gonna like it too. All right, so uh one of the many surgeries I had was years ago. I had uh surgery on my neck where all of my vertebrae, my cervical vertebrae, the backs of them were taken off. So they're like they're not circular anymore, they're like letter C's. So I've been terrified for all these years, rightfully so, of any kind of neck injury, whiplash.

SPEAKER_05 34:08

Like literally, I when you're around me and I crack my neck, you're like, oh, you kind of freaked out.

SPEAKER_03 34:12

I winced at the thought of cracking, like, yeah, it's just insane. And then you sent me this. I told you not to live. I screamed, you dirty motherfucker. When I opened it, I was so and it's our favorite guy. Oh my god, Christ Jesus. I'm like even on second viewing.

SPEAKER_05 34:33

How does he do the thing with the jaw? That's what I don't know. I don't have a look in his eyes.

SPEAKER_03 34:40

Can you start? Oh god, let's do it. Wait for the jaw thing.

SPEAKER_05 34:44

The jaw thing is even wilder.

SPEAKER_03 34:45

No, I'm not watching it again, man. We're good.

SPEAKER_05 34:50

Uh then you got the other one I sent you in conjunction with the thing.

SPEAKER_03 34:52

Yeah, that was insane. So then the next the next one was thankfully titled something like, you know, you're not gonna you're not gonna like this. Or no, no, uh, more more crazy neck stuff, yeah. Now this is more this is more a situation of just not having a neck.

SPEAKER_05 35:14

How is that not bad for his nap?

SPEAKER_03 35:16

Uh but that looks like it was pretty painful to his neck. That was just horrific. Yeah, that's just wacko.

SPEAKER_05 35:22

I and uh in the kids uh in the kids' defense, when you're stuck in a wheelchair, why not hop it up? What else you got to do? Why not make it a death-defying ride since you're not allowed on the other ones?

SPEAKER_13 35:35

It almost looked like a mannequin or something, right? That was a real person.

SPEAKER_05 35:40

I think so. I don't know.

SPEAKER_13 35:41

I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 35:42

All right, let's see what I got. I got one right here.

SPEAKER_03 35:45

This is another pretty funny one that you sent me. Um, and you're right, like uh this really could. I don't know if Tim Dillon played ball when he was young or not. Oh, yeah, this is a good one. But uh, but this guy really does look like him. And what's funny too is as watch on the way back after he makes the shot, one of his teammates like jumps toward him to celebrate and literally bounces off of him like he's a steel girder. Oh yeah. And then wait for it. Bam! Oh my god, complete hit check.

SPEAKER_05 36:16

He goes, Oh, you see the pain in his eyes. And not only that, if you notice, the kid that gave him the between the legs pass must be that guy's twin. God, does everybody on that team look the same with the little jufro and the but yeah that the broccoli head, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 36:32

They look like uh kind of like an alpaca. They all have the same haircut. My my cousin uh lives in Connecticut. She's got like, you know, five, four kids, three of them are boys, and they all have the same, they all have that haircut.

SPEAKER_05 36:47

Let's see what this. Oh, this is a good one. This is more more about more endorsement for our school. Let's see what this chick's got to say.

SPEAKER_12 36:54

So yesterday I came to the realization my students can't read. That is the tragic truth. Um sorry. That is the tragic truth.

SPEAKER_03 37:14

And you couldn't look more interested in telling her.

SPEAKER_12 37:18

I struggle with being told that I have to focus on certain standards on grade level text when my kids are not reading grade level. And I just don't really know how to navigate that. Like I see they're struggling.

SPEAKER_03 37:33

They're let me give kids might not be able to read, but can you imagine having to deal with her as a teacher all day? That would drive me insane.

SPEAKER_05 37:40

Well, here's here's a little hint on maybe what something you could probably think about doing about but this problem. Teach them to fucking read. You're a fucking teacher. Teach them to read.

SPEAKER_12 37:56

Because they don't understand what they're reading. You're gonna give them a test with a text on it that they don't understand. So they're not going to attempt it because then that makes them feel here's a place to start.

SPEAKER_05 38:12

A, B, C, D, E, F, G.

SPEAKER_03 38:16

Well, it would help to know what grade she's teaching. Like, are you complaining that they're coming into her class so far behind that they can't do her? Let's keep going and see what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_05 38:24

That could be a legitimate question. Let's see what it says on the board.

SPEAKER_12 38:26

Uh, maybe that'll give us a specific type of way.

SPEAKER_05 38:29

It's backwards, isn't it?

SPEAKER_12 38:31

Um they don't want to struggle. And I get that. I do. I get that.

SPEAKER_03 38:37

Um, but at the same time, they're not reading around her not on the lanyard makes her look like a PE coach, but it's like a catch 22.

SPEAKER_05 38:53

No, it's not a catch 22. All you have to do to get out of the loop of the catch 22 is teach them to fucking read. Why does this it seems like it's really just easier than than they're making it out to be.

SPEAKER_10 39:06

What grade is she teaching?

SPEAKER_05 39:08

I don't know.

SPEAKER_12 39:10

Do I push them and try to get them to understand grade level text?

SPEAKER_04 39:16

Nah. Why? Why bother?

SPEAKER_12 39:20

Or do I come kind of down to their level and try to show them?

SPEAKER_03 39:28

I think you are.

SPEAKER_12 39:36

I don't know. It's a really difficult decision.

SPEAKER_03 39:43

How much bullshit do you have on your desk?

SPEAKER_13 39:46

Is this real need to be filled with the case? I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 39:49

That's a good question. This could be entirely this could be rage-baiting AI material and we're just being old and stupid.

SPEAKER_05 39:55

God, let's hope.

SPEAKER_13 39:56

It is funny.

SPEAKER_05 39:57

Because, yeah, I mean, it's just like not at one point does she go, hey, maybe we should teach these kids how to read. That might be a good place to start. I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_03 40:07

All right, so this one was sent to me under the with the subject of something, and you thought my joystick, or you're impressed by my joystick. This guy is this is the most ridiculous gaming setup I've ever seen. And I can't imagine having to share a place, or worse yet, be downstairs from a guy like this.

SPEAKER_05 40:22

That's what I'm thinking.

SPEAKER_03 40:23

The neighbors, yeah, just unbelievable.

SPEAKER_20 40:27

My quest three headset for wireless VR gaming, a bubble VR headset battery pack as a fan that pulls my head down, my vibe tracker so that I can use my Unicap VR controller gloves with the Quest 3.

SPEAKER_03 40:39

Already so much jargon has been said, so many initials and letters and numbers. I'm already completely lost. And did you catch? And he's gonna show it again later. The fact that with all this VR stuff, he's swinging a real fucking sword. Why wouldn't you use a piece of fucking Ratan or something? You're gonna kill the dog. Someone's gonna come into the room and you're gonna turn around to get the enemy behind you, and the next thing you know, you're gonna be on the news.

SPEAKER_20 41:03

My touching trackers on my gloves for spatial tracking, my UDCAP VR controller gloves that lets me play VR games with my hands. And so that I can eventually use things like a sword with my controllers. My B hat six vest and wrist straps has 40 motors in this vest right here. So I can feel guns.

SPEAKER_03 41:21

If you're gonna have motors, why don't you just go full nine yards and put squibs in there like they do in Hollywood? I want to see everything. It's close, man. I want to see a pop and a gout.

SPEAKER_20 41:31

I think it's close. What do you got? I can feel explosions, all that crazy shit. My haptic shirt by OO suit is intense haptic. Haptic shirt.

SPEAKER_03 41:41

Never thought I'd hear those words put together.

SPEAKER_20 41:47

So I can feel being stabbed. My exoskeleton had since my legs were running on this treadmill. I'm literally not doing this right now. He's that doesn't even run. Last but not least, my personal directional treadmill that helps me move and full.

SPEAKER_03 42:03

How does he not even have holes in his walls? The handy two problems.

SPEAKER_05 42:09

Wow. All right, that's insane. Here's the part that's pretty crazy that if you saw that guy out in the wild and he didn't say anything, you would never know what a freaking nerd he was. No, no, you would not. I mean, maybe if he started talking some of that technical talk, you'd be, oh, okay, you're a nerd. But otherwise, no, he looks pretty uh he looks pretty solid. Now, this is when I was I was surprised the delicacy part of this wasn't the little mouthy part that comes in.

SPEAKER_03 42:48

Shit like this. This is why the price of RAM cards is this is why I can't buy more memory for my computer because people are wasting their time doing this dumb shit.

SPEAKER_05 42:56

And this also just goes to prove that Japanese will eat anything. What are they scrubbing the poison off of it?

SPEAKER_03 43:18

How do they get I like how the poison quit dripping off its teeth when it was getting the rubbish so good, right?

SPEAKER_15 43:41

Let's go to the end.

SPEAKER_05 44:00

All right. That's none of that stuff. I fucking hate AI. Well, that's clearly AI. Um.

SPEAKER_03 44:11

I think it might have been a Zenomart. Um, I got one that you sent me. What's funny is that I've already um I had already watched this on my own. This is actually a YouTuber that I I follow. And I think we should we've featured him on here before. Uh it's Rick Beato. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, this is a long one too, though, but this is a good one. Yeah, we won't we won't do the whole thing, but we'll just get the gist of it.

SPEAKER_16 44:34

So this is just some observations that I've been making over the past couple weeks about where the music business is now and kind of where it was in 1994 when I moved to Atlanta when I was 32 years old. So the reason I moved down here was to try and find people to play with in a band and do my own music. There were music rehearsal spaces around town here that bands rehearsed at. There's probably about four or five of them. One of them was called Black Box. They had about 50 rooms or so. There's another one called Avatar that had a bunch of rooms, maybe about the same, with a couple of huge rooms that you could rehearse on a stage. There was another place called Metro that was near the Masquerade, which is actually in a different spot now, that my band rehearsed in that probably had 35 different rehearsal spaces in. And there were a number of others. These were all full of bands that rehearsed all the time. So day and night, you can go in there. They're open 24 hours. You can go in and rehearse. This wasn't just Atlanta, this was every city. If you went to Seattle like I did in 1992, there was a number of rehearsal spaces around Seattle that all those Seattle bands rehearsed in.

SPEAKER_03 45:41

But there were you know, he just recently, I think yesterday or today, I watched another one of his where he's talking about how you know the only all almost all of these indie musicians and everything are all basically industry plants and propped up by rich parents or people with connections in the business.

SPEAKER_05 45:57

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 45:58

And again, and also the point that you've made about how many of these all these artists, they're just there's a bunch of people that write all of the songs for everybody. And that's why everything kind of sounds the same, because it's all the same people writing the songs for everybody else.

SPEAKER_05 46:11

Well, it's it's a secular thing that we'll talk about after he's done.

SPEAKER_03 46:14

Yeah. I feel like this one was this the one where he was drawing the parallel between all that the uh studio equipment and the AI centers. I feel like that that might have been this.

SPEAKER_05 46:24

Possibly, but but that's you know, that's a greater discussion about like I I was thinking of, you know, uh if if we were gonna open a uh a podcast studio to also have uh, you know, like a rehearsal studio kind of situation. But I mean there's there's a couple of them around, and there's just that I don't know if there's the demand for it, to tell you the truth. I mean, you can even rehearse, I I don't know how they do it with the latency and all, but I've seen it done. But they could people can rehearse by Zoom now. You don't need it by go get together and buy it.

SPEAKER_03 46:50

That's the point he's gonna go on to make here very soon is about the the price and the uh the storage and whatnot of home computing systems has come down to the point where you just don't need and plus there's there's different things like what are you doing in this rehearsal room?

SPEAKER_05 47:02

Are because here's the thing if you're playing in a cover band, if you're getting in a rehearsal room, all you're doing is running through the songs that you already learned at home. If you didn't, if you're if you're going into your rehearsal place to learn songs, you're wasting your time and money. And but people do that for sure. But I mean, back in the day when we had a rehearsal place, it was to go there and write and like come up with ideas and and be creative, you know, you know, when you're working on original stuff. So there's different there's different kinds of rehearsal rooms, you know. As a matter of fact, our our mutual friend Opie uh he had an idea, and this is way back, I mean, this is probably 10, 15 years ago, but he had an idea to do a uh music studio by just going somewhere like um the Carolinas or something like that and buying an old mansion out in the middle of nowhere and turning that into a recording studio just for like, you know, obviously people that can afford it, big money, you know, producer type people. But that's the perfect place to go because you're isolated, you know, you don't let anybody take their phones or laptops or any of that stuff, and you stick them out in the woods and you know, a bunch of guys and go, all right, kind of like that TV show, but without all the, you know, without all the external shit, you know, and just go, just be here and be pr be, you know, creative. And that's the only reason you're here. Get stoned, you know, get drunk, be creative. That's that's the whole reason you're here. But you know, that never worked out. But are you gonna play the rest of this? Or uh Well, we don't really need to. I don't know. Well, I'm gonna say I'm pretty much the thing that the the point he makes later in the in the in the video is that you're right, it's only bridge kids that are that are making music now, and to a lesser extent in the in the in the past. And truthfully, it doesn't matter though. He kind of does. Actually, I uh what's his name? Anthony Oliver kind of proves to a certain extent, even if you write the great a great song, you still need people with money to put to be behind you, or or it doesn't go anywhere. So, I mean, I used to be able, I used to think that if you write wrote a great enough song, no matter what, you would be successful and rich. And I don't think that's I've I've changed my mind. I don't think that's exactly the that's not exactly the case.

SPEAKER_03 49:06

There there could be even these even these professional songwriters who do, you know, the group of them that writes the majority of music for young pop artists and stuff, even when they write a song that they can sell to one of these artists or gets picked by them, they always have to give them writing uh rights as well, like put them on the song as a writer, even if they did absolutely nothing to the song, or maybe they changed one word and said, I would have said this instead of that, and then they get you know credit as one of the writers of the song. So even the guys that are selling the most popular songs are not getting the sole credit for writing the song because no one will agree to perform it without getting a little bit of credit on that writing as well. Right.

SPEAKER_05 49:44

But I think the greater point he makes here, and I don't even know if he's trying to make it, but music has always been like a cyclical thing. You know, this like something, some kind of genre pops up and then it kind of fades, and then another genre pops up. But also the same thing with the business. Like, for instance, before the 60s, uh look at like the 50s, the 40s, the 30s, there were no bands, there were no like pop stars. I mean, I guess Dean, you know, Dean Martin, the rat pack kind of thing, but all that stuff.

SPEAKER_03 50:15

Benny Goodman, you know, people that conducted orchestras and stuff.

SPEAKER_05 50:19

But all that stuff is manufactured music. That's that's uh uh music by committee, and there's some kind of organization that's behind it all, fun you know, funding it and making it, you know, paying guys, paying the studio guys to show up, you know, and and paying the writers to write the song. It wasn't until the 60s till you kind of got the Beatles and uh and Jimi Hendricks and uh you know stuff like that, that was more like a band, you know, that was the the band was the thing.

SPEAKER_03 50:47

Wealthy individuals or wealthy you know, parties or whatever being involved, that's eternal. That goes back to you know, think of patronage, all the way back to the Medici and stuff in Italy. But is it and that wasn't just for musicians, but for pretty much all artists, sculptors and painters and everybody else, you know, somebody has to pay for all of this, so you suck up to a rich guy. Exactly.

SPEAKER_05 51:07

And and for whatever reason, from the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, up into the like 20 oughts, almost to 2010, 2011, it was the ruling uh ruling of bands and artists. Now it's kind of getting back into the whole, you know, it's it's more of a machine that's making the music, not less of an individual or a guy or a band or duo, you know, or there's you know, no Simon and Garfunkel anymore. Now it's yeah, you know, poor Garfunkel. Yeah, yeah, right. But anyway. Well, I think we've been about an hour now, right? I was gonna say we were close. Yeah, we're close. We're about at a clip, so that's usually about that time. So uh so if you want to comment on anything we were talking about today, 904-549-uh 9024, uh, give us a call, leave us a message. And I you know, I I thought Nurse Beck was maybe gonna stop by today, but I I need to tell her. I was like, look, even if you can't come by, just give us a call, you know, and and keep it.

SPEAKER_03 51:58

I didn't want to jinx by asking.

SPEAKER_05 52:00

Keep us abreast of what's going on. Well, I've I've got her money. She paid for our Dave Smith ticket, so I keep I keep you know trying to tempt her over here. I got your cash. Come on by to the studio at two o'clock today. I got the cash. Don't forget, Dean. You're gonna let you do that.

SPEAKER_13 52:12

Yeah, that's gonna be a great time.

SPEAKER_05 52:13

Yeah, it'll be it'll be a lot of fun. And let's we'll have to do we'll have to get Becca to make some kind of scene or show her tits or something to get their attention so we try to do them on the show.

SPEAKER_03 52:21

We're gonna we're gonna tape uh Monday and Wednesday instead of Monday and Friday.

unknown 52:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 52:26

All right, guys. We'll uh catch you next time, I guess. Thanks, guys.