EPISODE 3 - Jazzie Smith: Interactive Dream Therapy

Our guest this week, Jazzie Smith, is a Certified Hypnotherapist, NLP Practitioner, Mental Emotional Release® Specialist, and Reiki Master with half a decade of experience including hundreds of transformational client sessions. She is the founder of Interactive Dream Therapy (IDT), a conscious journeying process that blends guided dreamscape exploration with subconscious transformation.

Her mission is to empower motivated individuals to release patterns of anxiety, stress, and self-doubt, reconnect with their inner wisdom, and rise into confidence, peace, and clarity. She believes everyone has the ability to rewrite their story, release limiting beliefs, and create a life rooted in joy, balance, and purpose.

In addition to her private practice, Jazzie serves as a hypnotherapist with JoyMind Hypnotherapy, a leading organization for virtual subconscious coaching. She is an ordained minister through the Universal Life Church and a member of both the American Hypnosis Association (AHA) and the International Association of Professional Conversational Hypnotherapists (IAPCH).

She holds multiple awards and advanced certifications in mind-body healing, consciousness work, and metaphysical exploration. Jazzie is currently pursuing a Clinical Hypnotherapy designation and a degree in Mind-Body Psychology at the Hypnosis Motivation Institute. She is also a Certified Beyond Quantum Healing (BQH) Practitioner, guiding clients through expansive multidimensional healing experiences in a safe, supportive space—both online and in person.

https://www.jazziesmith.com/

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Transcript

Meet Catherine And The Mission

Katherine 0:00

Hello everyone, and welcome to Hyp Talks. I'm your host, Katherine Hinchey. I'm a certified hypnotherapist, NLP practitioner, and SHRM Senior Certified Professional in Human Resources. After spending a decade working in the music industry, my path led me into the world of the healing arts, where science, energy, mindset, and transformation all meet. Each week, I sit down with a different healing practitioner to explore the many powerful modalities available to support our growth, well-being, and personal evolution. So come with me on this journey of discovery and learn about all the opportunities for healing and transformation that are available to all of us.

Katherine 0:53

Singer: Don't let your dreams stay stuck in your mind. You're so close!

Introducing Jazzy And Her Work

Katherine 1:37

She is the founder of Interactive Dream Therapy, a conscious journeying process that blends guided dreamscape exploration with subconscious transformation. Her mission is to empower motivated individuals to release patterns of anxiety, stress, and self-doubt, reconnect with their inner wisdom, and rise into confidence, peace, and clarity. She believes everyone has the ability to rewrite their story, release limiting beliefs, and create a life rooted in joy, balance, and purpose. In addition to her private practice, Jazzy serves as a hypnotherapist with Joy Mind Hypnotherapy, a leading organization for virtual subconscious coaching. She is an ordained minister through the Universal Life Church and a member of both the American Hypnosis Association and the International Association of Professional Conversational Hypnotherapists. She holds multiple awards and advanced certifications in mind-body healing, consciousness work, and metaphysical exploration. Jazzie is currently pursuing a clinical hypnotherapy designation and a degree in mind-body psychology at the Hypnosis Motivation Institute. And she is also a certified beyond quantum healing practitioner, guiding clients through expansive multidimensional healing experiences in a safe, supportive space, both online and in person. Welcome, Jazzie. Wow. That's that's quite a bio and very impressive. And I'm really excited to have you here. I'm excited to be here. Thank you for having me. Yes, of course. So we met in the NLP course. You're the TA for the one that I took. So that's how we know each other. But go ahead and tell me a little bit about. What is your special corner of the healing world?

Jazzie 3:37

Yeah.

What Interactive Dream Therapy Is

Jazzie 3:38

So my special sauce, as you call it, is really in interactive dream therapy. And interactive dream therapy is a process where there's a lot of different ideas on dreams, right? You've got Youngian dream analysts, and you've got Freudian analysts, and you've got dream dictionaries of symbols, and we have all these ideas. And nobody really agrees on which is the way to go. But what everyone agrees on is that dreams are doing something. They're accessing a part of our subconscious mind that is either telling us something or giving us something or healing something. And within that framework, I have discovered a way to essentially step into a lucid dream, is how I would describe it. Only instead of a random dream, right? Like we were all like, oh my gosh, I just woke up from this dream and I know it meant something, but I have no idea what it was, right? Have you had that experience? Oh yeah. And so in this method, we're actually telling the subconscious, what are we going to dream about? What are we looking to heal? What are we looking to explore? And then my job is to guide my clients into that dreamscape where we open up a doorway for the subconscious mind to give us the pathway, the roadmap to healing, instead of assigning it a roadmap or guess and checking our roadmap. We're really like opening up to that subconscious mind that's so unique, so individual to that client and saying, what do you need to get from here to there? And the results are not only profound, but they're very entertaining.

Katherine 5:19

That's awesome. That's so interesting you say that because really we're taught that everyone has the answers within their subconscious, right? And so to be able to really, like you said, not try it and get what did you say is something and guess it? Try it and guess it and chance it out and see if that works, versus like literally taking that leap of faith into that person's knowledge, their inner wisdom without it. And so, how much work do you have to do with a client prior to interactive dream therapy session to prep them, or do you?

Jazzie 5:55

That's a great question. I want to back up for half a second though, because you said something that was literally like the catalyst for this work, in

Prep, Trust, And Client Readiness

Jazzie 6:03

that I was originally trained in beyond quantum healing, which is a form of like past life, other life regression. And I'm very analytical, I'm science-y, so I never really locked in. I wasn't against the idea, but I wasn't like sold on it either. And it was when I started working with children using a similar process to like a past life regression that was like the egg of what I now call interactive dream therapy. But it was absolutely amazing to witness these kids 10 years old, 11 years old, having the answers within themselves. I didn't have to tell them how to be more confident. I didn't have to tell them how to be less reactive. I just brought them into that healing space. And that's that was the moment it was like, oh my gosh, we really do. If this child has that answer inside of them, gosh, what are we capable of as adults or what do we hold within us as an adult? But as for prep work, it's a little different for everyone. And I say that because kids are natural at it, right? Their imaginations are so open, they don't second guess themselves, they don't wonder if they're making it up right. And adults are at their own places on their journey. So if someone is already into meditation, if they're already very intuitive or extremely visual, there's a little less prep work that goes into the trust process, the interactive dream therapy. And then there are people who are a little more, oh, can I trust that? Do and so we work on that first. We always start wherever the client is and we build the foundation from there. So it's so individual. Just like the subconscious mind is individual, the process for getting there is individual. But every anyone who can dream can do this. Amazing.

Katherine 7:50

All right. I have so many questions, but let's start with let's back up before you talk to me about getting into interactive dream therapy.

Jazzy’s Path Into Healing

Katherine 7:58

Talk to me about your story about getting into this kind of healing work in general.

Jazzie 8:04

Okay, yeah. So it all started for me. When can you say something started, right? That's the big question. Oh, how far back do we really travel? But my healing journey itself started when I was awakening into myself. I had grown up in what many would define as a cult. And I had a lot of fears of limitations, of if I had gone to a professional, they probably would have said CPTSD kind of situation. I was wouldn't leave my house if I could avoid it. I was very reactive. I was triggered by the world itself. I felt people were unsafe and the world was unsafe. And, you know, as we do as we get older, one day you're just like, oh my gosh, there has to be something else. There has to be a better way to live life because this is not working for me. And even though on the outside I had the husband and I had two kids and two dogs and two cars and everything was picture perfect for me. But on the inside, I was depressed. I was angry. I was frustrated and I couldn't navigate the world in the way I wanted to. My husband, on the other hand, complete opposite. He's, yeah, let's take the four-year-old bungee jumping. Sounds great. Like he's gonna be fine. And I'm like, maybe we shouldn't take them out of the house, like into the sun, because they might be part vampire and we don't know it yet. So let's not do that. So I we, as opposites attract, right? I was very drawn to the fact that wait, you can just live life and do things and not worry about the end of the world coming at any second now. And so the catalyst for that transformation was when I started reading a book called Freedom of Mind by Stephen Hassan. And he really dug into how intelligent, competent people can get swept away by this really negative self-subconscious programming, right? And in it, the most powerful quote in there that has stuck with me to this day is powerful swords cut both ways. And so it was like, okay, if this is how my mind was hijacked, how can I take it back? How can I use these tools and these methods to reclaim my life and reclaim my mind? And so from there, it was just this snowball of different healing modalities. I got into Reiki, I got into meditation and eventually beyond quantum healing and hypnosis and different psychology methods and a lot of neuroscience to bridge those gaps that my brain needed to make everything fit together. And here I am.

Katherine 10:28

So you had this sort of awakening, right? But were you, did you have a different career or a different work path at the time that you gave up, that you you like switched 180? Or how did you just have one book really was the catalyst to just shift everything or I mean what book is the domino, right?

Jazzie 10:47

The first domino of many dominoes that would take us eight hours to go through the whole process. At the time, when I say I didn't leave my house, I didn't leave my house. I homeschooled my kids, I did everything to just live in a bubble that was safe and protected. If I could have, I say if I could avoid it, I had a wonderful husband who was even willing to fill my car with gas. So I didn't have to go to the gas station, grocery shop on the way home, so I didn't have to go to the store. So if I went out, it was like I was really pushing

Leaving A Rigid Upbringing

Jazzie 11:16

myself out of my comfort zone to do something for my kids. And even then, it was a struggle to do those things. And so synchronicity, universe, God, whatever you called it, started just lining things up that, you know, it was not an overnight transformation. It was very much like little stair steps of pushing myself out of my comfort zone. I ended up at a job with a community that I just absolutely adored. And it was the perfect playground to step into myself and to get to know how to be in the world. And that was the bridge between then and now.

Katherine 11:50

Amazing. Amazing. Okay, so I'm curious about your ordained minister status in your bio. Can you talk a little bit about that and how the spiritual and the metaphysical match in your world?

Jazzie 12:04

Yeah, that's a good question. If I'm being honest, that all started as a way to flip off my upbringing, if you will. Because the spiritual aspect of how I grew up was very much like women were not even allowed to pray unless they wore a head covering. You could not, as a woman, you had one job, and that was to serve your husband. That's it. Whatever he wants, whatever he says, like he's your brain, you do that. And so I think when I first got into that aspect, it was more of a reclamation of my power and my authority to be a spiritual being, if that makes sense. But I've studied all sorts of different modalities of spirituality. I dabbled in Wicca and that kind of stuff and Buddhism and Christianity, like all over the place. And my goal was like pulling out the universal truths, right? The universal threads that are woven into all of these different religions or whatever you would like to call them. So spirituality is just like a dream world, just your subconscious mind is so personal. But we also start to see those core threads of love and forgiveness and presence in the moment and a trust in the unfolding of your life that really is centered in every single religion that I've looked at. And so I bring that in whatever way works for my client. I have amazing success with people who are deeply rooted in Christianity and have those kind of beliefs. And I love bringing in scriptures and bringing in that into their sessions. And if someone is completely the other way, we talk more about the universe and we, it's their language, it's their journey. And I'm just here to hold space to help them explore what that means for them and how to incorporate it in their life in a way that is uplifting and positive and helps them feel that sense of security and support in the unknown because we're all living the unknown every single day. And I think that's, you know, why people, a lot of people come into some sort of hypnotherapy or therapy is because I don't have control over all of this. I don't feel good on the inside. How do I reconcile that? And spirituality, whether it's religion or a general sense of it, is so important for I think to have that holistic approach, the mind, body, spirit approach, but it's so personal.

Katherine 14:29

Yeah. I have to ask, and you don't have to answer, but since you brought it up, I'm so curious to know that's such a rigid upbringing. How did you get out of that world?

Jazzie 14:40

Yeah, I was excommunicated when I was about 15, 16, and I left everything I ever knew. Every person I was ever allowed to talk to was just like in the past. So it was the blank slate. But I went to, I moved into Washington for a little while with a girlfriend of mine, and it was not good that I fell into more, we're all at the mercy of our subconscious beliefs, right? And so my subconscious belief was at the time, if I'm not this religious person, this godly person, then I must be a murderer and a drug addict and uh all that is bad in the world because it's black and white thinking is how you're you're brought up to teach. And that's what I found. I found the party scene, I found a lot of bad people, I found a lot of hate, I found a lot of negativity. It was probably the most challenging time of my life, especially at that time. But I found a lot of resilience. I nothing like having the floor ripped out from underneath you to learn how to fly. So there was it was interesting times for sure. And then eventually I found some equilibrium. Yeah. Okay.

Katherine 15:48

Talk a little bit about how you found your way out of that because this is an incredible story of resilience and survivorship. And I think we all want to know. How did you do it? How did you manage that?

Jazzie 15:59

Eventually, I remember getting on a phone call with a friend, and I was miserable. Like me and my girlfriend, we lived together, we were fighting every day, very verbally abusive to each other because we were doing we the party scene, right? We were doing the racing. And I remember, like at the time, there was a particular, am I going into too much detail? Do I have to cut that out?

Rock Bottom, Wake Up Call, And Pivot

Katherine 16:25

No, I think this is what people want to hear is people want to hear about people's real struggles and real journeys. Okay.

Jazzie 16:33

So I was supposed to, I was, I should say I was invited to. I was invited to a rave and I'd gone to a bunch of raves before that. And this one, the theme was called Better Off Undead. And it was zombie themed. And there was just part of me that was like, who thinks that mixing these things are a good idea? Who wants to be out of their mind and in a room full of zombies? Right. Like this, there was just something about it that didn't sit right with me. So I decided to skip it. And it was so interesting that I did because after that, there was an after party at that rave, and it's now known as the Capitol Hill Massacre. And one of the DJs went to an after party, open fired, and unfortunately killed a lot of people, including one of what I considered a very good friend, but she was only 14 at the time. So as an adult, you're like, what is this 14-year-old doing there? Right. How did that even happen? And a couple, we were going through the grieving process and we were doing the vigils, and I ended up out of my mind in a car with a bunch of people I didn't know one day. And they opened the glove box and there's a pistol. And I'm sure this was part of my world the whole time. I just wasn't seeing it. Do you know what I'm saying? I wasn't, and in that moment, it was like, oh my God, I don't know what I'm with. I don't know what's going to happen to me. I don't know who's driving this car. Like I have no autonomy over myself in this moment. And, you know, with what happened a week, I don't know. I don't know the time frame. Time's very strange when you're in that kind of a situation. And I just, I knew something had to change. And I called my friend in the middle of the night and he's just go home. Come back to Colorado. And I'm like, well, it's not that easy. And he's, it's that easy. Just come home. And I'm like, oh my God, it's that easy. Like I can just leave. And I bought a bus ticket. And by the next week, I was, he was nice enough. I was able to stay with him and his mom for a little while while I got a job and got on my feet and cycled through a different pattern again, right? And left and got on my feet. And eventually, through God, the universe, whatever, I met my husband and he made me feel very safe. As I've never felt so safe in my entire life than when I was with him, whether it was an act of insanity or a divine timing. We were married two weeks later and I was pregnant within

Safety, Family, And New Foundations

Jazzie 19:06

a month, and my entire life was just like a 180.

Katherine 19:10

Oh my gosh, this is an incredible story. Wow. Now, am I correct in remembering that you mentioned at some point, and maybe I'm getting this wrong, that you have military background? My husband does. Your husband, okay.

Jazzie 19:25

He was in the military when we got married, and he was deployed for we got married in May. He was gone by December, gone for 15 months. So I had my son while he was deployed, and then he was back for a year, and then he was gone for a year, and then eventually he ended up getting med-boarded. And so we've been together ever since. And he's been out of the military for gosh, like a decade now. It's been a while.

Katherine 19:49

Okay. Okay, wow. And so is your family, are they spiritual, metaphysical, into this kind of world?

Jazzie 19:59

They know. My husband's very practical. So he supports me a thousand percent. But he's also, you are not allowed inside my mind. Are you sure we're even supposed to be messing with the mind? And he has his own ways of coping and doing things. And he's very, he's not religious. He's here and now in this moment. And that's a beautiful thing. And my kids know I'm into it, but I don't necessarily, I don't push it on them. I talk about it. I don't hide it. But they're all like, oh yeah, mom's buying more crystals. Like she's doing that.

Katherine 20:33

That's amazing.

Jazzie 20:34

And they were a little more open to it when they were really little. I would do IDT sessions on them and stuff. Now my oldest is 17 now. He's about to go off and have his own adventure. And he's taking that more practical approach at this point in his life, anyways. Sure. So the older they get, the more they're they just push back. You know how that goes.

Katherine 20:53

Absolutely. And for those of you who can't see Jazzy's space, is I laugh so hard about the crystals because she's got this incredible mood lighting.

Spirituality That Meets Clients Where They Are

Katherine 21:05

She's got moons and lights and stars. It looks like a galaxy behind her. Moody colors, blues and purples. And oh, I always wanted to ask you this, Jazzy. Actually, are you standing up when you're on your Zooms?

Jazzie 21:21

Because you're so free moving. I am standing up. Exactly. It's a sit to stand desk that my husband actually made for me. So I can do both and I go back and forth all day long, but I stand if I can.

Katherine 21:33

I love that. I love that. Do you stand when you give your sessions?

Jazzie 21:38

I try to alternate like every because right at this point I'm back to back. So I stand and then sit and then stand and then sit. I try to alternate so I'm not doing any one thing for too long. So I don't end up tired by the end of the day.

Katherine 21:50

Okay, that's fair. I was just curious about how if the actual standing made a difference in terms of the work that you do or If it's really just more about your actual earthly physical body.

Jazzie 22:04

I think it's more about my physical body than anything else. It makes it easier. I have some chimes or musical instruments that I'll play during a session and it makes it easier for me to grab them when I'm standing versus sitting. But in all honesty, I've just, if I'm sitting, I'm like reclining or I'm short. So chairs don't really fit me. Do you know what I mean? So I've never found a chair that I could just stay in all day unless I'm laying down. And I hear it's frowned upon to lay down and recline on my chase lounge while I'm trying to hypnotize someone. So I'll I will stand.

Katherine 22:36

So now getting back to your story and today. Today, do you feel like you can go outside? You can face the fears that you had that you were hiding from for so long now that you have all these tools in your toolbox.

Jazzie 22:52

Absolutely. I have overcome pretty much every single. Okay, I have not yet jumped out of an airplane. Okay. I'm not sure I'm gonna do that. But that is a fear I have not yet overcome. But as far as driving in downtown Denver, do I love it? No. Do I do it every Friday for my kids? Yes. And before that was just like, oh, that's not happening. Like it's, or it would take me, I was the person who would go to Costco and I would need to come home and take a three-hour nap because just going into Costco was just like so overwhelming to me. And now it's the way that I have to go to Costco, yes. I don't, I don't love Costco. But I will go to Costco, I will shop, and I will come home and have a cup of coffee reset and jump back into my life pretty quickly. And I know that sounds like such a small thing, but for a lot of people, it's not a small thing, right? Like just absolutely. So yeah, I would every everything that I've wanted to conquer thus far, I have conquered. It doesn't mean I like it. It doesn't mean that I've gone in and said, oh, I want this to be my happy place. I don't really want Costco to be my happy place. I could probably get there if I wanted to, but I'm pretty happy with where I'm at now and feel like, okay, if I need to do something, I have what it takes to do what needs to get done, no matter what.

Katherine 24:15

Amazing. And is there something on the horizon that you want to conquer next? Because I feel like you're not ever satisfied until you're you keep getting something else overcome.

Jazzie 24:26

I do definitely have that kind of always seeking to be that next better version of myself. I mean, at this point, I'm I there's a big, bigger vision for my future, but I'm also trying not to put the horse ahead of the cart. I know that there's still so much with my kids, right? They're 14 and 13. I've only got a couple more years that they even want to be around me before they go off onto their own adventures. So I'm trying to really just enjoy.

Daily Life After Healing And Capacity

Jazzie 24:55

And I think that's been the point the whole time, right? We have these goals. We have these milestones we want to make, but the only reason we want to make those milestones is so that we can enjoy the life we have right now. So really that is my number one goal right now is just to keep the balance, keep the momentum of what I've got going, and also just be there, be present and able to enjoy life with my kids, whether we're going off on an adventure or we're just hanging out making dinner.

Katherine 25:23

Amazing. I can see how your story and of that resilience and how grounded you are now, what a space you're holding for your clients, how much you can help them go right into their subconscious and find what it is that they need to heal themselves. It's really amazing. So thank you for sharing that. Is there anything else that I haven't asked that I should know about you?

Jazzie 25:50

Gosh, I don't think of anything in particular. No, just I love what I do. I love watching the transformation. And I think that looking back on my life and my story, there is a part of me that's like, why didn't I do this faster? Like, why didn't I? And it wasn't until many years later I realized that my limiting belief was actually around asking for help. I didn't trust therapists, I didn't trust people. So going to another person to say, oh, I think that I'm stuck, or I think that there's gotta be a better way. So I was very much, oh no, I'm gonna fix myself. Oh no, I'm gonna do this all myself. And I, if I could talk to old me and say, hey, do you know you could make this happen in a couple of months, like six months, you could have this transformation instead of five years? That might have been really good for my kids.

Katherine 26:50

Okay, but yeah, if we're all on the journey in our own time, right?

Jazzie 26:55

Yeah, I think I bring that up more for people who are like listening and oh, why can't I do this on my own? Why can't I just go like YouTube a meditation? Or and we can, but I think that there's just such power in in coming together and getting the foundation laid in a different way.

Katherine 27:12

We chuckled about you were working on your bio for your site, and you mentioned the Anais

Goals, Balance, And Presence

Katherine 27:18

Anais Nin quote. And I had said, Oh, I coincidentally I have that quote on my Instagram page. It's a really good one, and I think it might encapsulate a little bit about when when somebody is ready to, or and when and how somebody is ready to embark on these types of changes. So do you want to say the quote?

Jazzie 27:40

Sure. The day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom. Yeah, I love that. Yeah, I love it. I love it too. And I think that's the the trend, right? We get stuck in habit, we get stuck in automation, we get stuck in what we've always known until one day we're like, it like hits you over the head like a ton of bricks. You're just like, wait a second, what have I really? Yeah. And but it has to, the pain that you're stuck in has to almost outweigh the the pain of stepping into the un unknown and saying, oh, I could fail. I could step out of this on the other side, and it's worth it anyways. I'd rather be out there doing something different that also sucks than right here doing this that also sucks, and hold on to the hope that's still gonna be better. Does that was that too pessim or was that too pessimistic?

Katherine 28:44

No, I think that's I think that's absolutely right. And that sort of is for a lot of people the catalyst is I mean, there's always grass, it's always greener on the other side, and there's always stick with what you know. And I think there's probably two different types of people out there, but there's something that happens, right? It's like what Joe would say. I'd rather our teacher, Joe Tabanella,

Asking For Help Versus Going It Alone

Katherine 29:10

who did the class that we took together, talking about being on an airplane and having this horrible turbulence happening and having what he described as like a panic attack almost, and everyone around him getting really frightened. And then having the awareness to say, wait a minute, okay, is my feeling this way right now going to keep the airplane up in the air or keep it from crashing? No, okay, so it's either gonna stay in the air and be okay, or it's gonna crash and that will be a different result. And so I can either feel this horrible feeling that I'm feeling, or I can change and feel a different feeling, a different state, be in a different place. And just having the ability to first understand that and then to be able to do it is huge. Actually, I might cut all of that because I'm not sure how much it relates to what you were saying, but it made me think of it.

Jazzie 30:14

Yeah, no, I love that story. It's one of my favorite ones that he talks about, and I use it all the time because it's so true. Whatever I think maybe it doesn't relate exactly to what we were talking about before, but it's very much okay, I could choose a different attitude right now and be in this place and see what happens. Or I can step into something else and still choose my state, right? I can say, okay, I can accept this for what it is and no, it's not for me and be brave enough to step into the next thing instead, knowing that there's always going to be adjustments, there's always gonna be good and bad to everything. But that's when it's time to sit down and really reflect on what do I actually want? Because so many of us don't give ourselves the permission to even think about that, right? We're so in our conditioning, we're so in our stories, we're so in the known, no

The Risk To Blossom: A Core Quote

Jazzie 31:07

one's ever stopped to say, oh, if there were no limitations, if money weren't an issue, if my societal expectations weren't an issue, what would I do? What would I want? And sometimes there's a blend of that needs to happen, right? We can't all just quit our jobs and go become rock stars tomorrow. It might not. There's that, what do we call the ecology check? Does this really match what I want? Yeah, it sounds good, but okay, then I'd be leaving my family. I wouldn't get to see them. There's those things that go into it, but okay, if that's what I really want. How can I maybe blend those and find a better balance between where I am and where I want to be?

Katherine 31:44

Yeah, amazing. Can you talk to me a little bit about your client? Who comes to see you? Who are you attracting?

Jazzie 31:51

Yeah. So I work a lot with clients who are in that same state we've been talking about the whole time. They're anxious, they're overthinking, they're worried, they're lacking the self-confidence, like they know what they want, but they're not giving them permission to want it because what if I fail? Or what if I succeed? What if overthinking, overanalyzing, stuck in decision paralysis, right? Or I want this promotion at work, but all it's a male-dominated field. So I'll probably just stay over here with comfy and not worry about that. Most of my clients are coming in with something like that, but I have a lot of success with a lot of different clients as well. People who are more into kind of just exploring the subconscious, they're more into the BQH and the quantum realms, and they just want to learn how to access those places in their own mind for any type of healing is another type of client that I definitely attract and work with. Really, it comes down to, I think at its core, like autonomy of the self, like reclaiming ownership over where you are, where you want to be, and realizing that all of that knowledge, that power, that wisdom is inside of you. And all we have to do is start to kind of peel away those subconscious layers of programming that are, you know, keeping it from running the way that it's supposed to.

Katherine 33:10

Okay.

Jazzie 33:10

Yeah, great. And how do people find you? Super easy. You can go to jazziesmith.com. That's J-A-Z-Z-I-E Smith.com. And that's my website. And of course, I'm I'm on Facebook, I'm on Instagram, and the business is called Phoenix Sunfire Healing Arts.

Katherine 33:27

Amazing. Okay, Jazzy, are you gonna lead us through something?

Jazzie 33:32

Yeah, close out today. Let's do that. Let me get some music going. All right, can you hear that music?

Katherine 33:50

Yeah.

Jazzie 33:51

All right, perfect. All right, if you'd be more comfortable taking off your glasses or making any adjustments that would help you be more comfortable in this moment. I want to begin by taking these three deeper breaths that signal to the nervous system that a

Choosing State And Acceptance

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change is about to occur. So roll your eyes up and in like you're trying to stare at the center of your forehead. Eyelids closed down, you're gonna notice a fluttering sensation. Take a nice big deep breath in. I want you to hold the breath at the top for five, four, three, two, one, at zero, slow as possible on the exhale, release, relax, and let it go. We're gonna do that two more times. A nice big deep breath in, eyes roll up and in. Hold at the top for five, four, three, two, one at zero, let it go. Just like sand draining from an hourglass, tension, worries, cares of the world, drain from the body. One more time, inhale deep. Eyes roll up and in, hold at the peak for five, four, three, two, one at zero, let it go, really let it go. Now just imagine for a moment that there is a beautiful ball of light right there at the crown of your head. And this light holds the essence of freedom. And in a moment, but not quite yet, we're gonna invite that wave of freedom to begin to flow down over or through the body. And all the while it infuses you with the essence of freedom itself. So inviting that wave now down over the crown of the head. Forehead softening any thoughts that are not freedom begin to wash away in the wake of this loving light. Over the jaw, the neck, the shoulders sinking a little further into their sockets now. And begin to notice a gentle opening of the heart as you begin to sense freedom in the body. Down, down, all the way down, biceps, triceps, forearms, and on and out through the palms, down through each and every fingertip. And I want for you to notice what it's like. For even the fingerprints themselves to begin to take on freedom as identity. Take a nice deep breath into the lungs, breathing in the essence of freedom right into the center of your heart. And notice what changes

Wanting Without Limits And Ecology Checks

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now. If you could imagine this heart itself could move and circulate as freedom flows through your blood, infusing every cell in your body. Down through the mid-belly and the mid-back. Low belly and low back. This back that's got your back as it flows down, down, all the way down this light through glutes and hips, hamstrings, thighs. As this wave of freedom washes. Down knees and calves. Ankles and the soles of the feet and now imagine you could open even further into this frequency of freedom. And all around you, a beautiful landscape begins to form. This place is as much a part of you as you are of it. And you can watch and wander and explore this place where freedom lives for you. It could be anywhere, everywhere, or even nowhere at all, wherever you are. See what you see, hear what you hear, feel what you feel, and I wonder what you notice when freedom stands out. What textures, what colors? Any shapes or objects that seem to stand out among the rest. And perhaps your mind's eye moves across the scene slowly. Perhaps you move freely through this space, and I wonder if there is a song. A melody as you connect to this sense of freedom now. Now begin to notice with all that is here and now and then and when, and each and every time you remember to remember freedom. What in this scene brings the strongest sense of it. Whatever stands out to you most, notice yourself moving towards it, or perhaps it moves towards you,

Who Jazzy Works With And Why

Jazzie 39:48

I'll let you decide. Whatever feels most alive here, that thing, that idea, that sense that seems to glow with it. Notice how your body feels in the presence of this freedom. What happens inside is you connect more fully with this sense of something. And if one could interact with it, how might that unfold? Whatever you do, do that now, remembering that everything and anything is possible in this world of dreams. Let yourself connect with this sense, with this frequency, this feeling, this memory of freedom now. And I want for you to imagine that you could distill this entire experience, all that is here into a single color. Say in your mind what color that would be. Now imagine that you could wash that color all the way up to the crown of your head and all the way down to the tips of your toes, enveloping yourself in the essence of freedom. Could you feel it? Seeping in through your skin, your tissues, your blood, your bones, even the cells themselves, a light up, soaking in this color of freedom like

How To Find Jazzie

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a dye, until it becomes as much a part of you as you are of it. So intrinsically intertwined, so much so that you couldn't separate even if you tried. Now each and every time you connect with this color in the waking world, whether it's as small as a speck of ink or as large and expansive as a landscape, you are reminded

Guided Freedom Meditation

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that the sense of freedom has always lived right here inside of you. And you can connect with it anytime you wish. This landscape, the symbol, this sensation, it is within you now. And I wonder, how can you remember to remember this? Let an answer arise and invite everything around you to begin to soften now. As it all fades into the background of your awareness, let that sense of feeling remain, let that color, let that knowing continue to keep what you have cultivated here as we begin to return to the waking world. At zero, will close the door to the subconscious mind. At one, returning to the air in the room around you. Notice the temperature, notice the flow. At two, taking a deep breath into lungs, connecting mind, body, and heart with all that is now embodied deeply within you. Three invites physical sensation back in. Wiggle some life back into that body, fingers, toes, shimmy shoulders. At four is a smile, a moment of gratitude because you showed up today. And at five, eyes open, wide awake, and ready for whatever is coming next.

Katherine 43:36

Beautiful. I want to keep rolling. Do you have two more minutes? I ha I have a noon, but I've got we can wrap it up. It's okay. I wanted to ask you about your music. Is it possible? Do you want to talk a little bit about it before the people experience it? Or how you came to utilize the bells and the sounds? I like it.

Jazzie 43:56

It entertains me. No, so a lot of the music I use came from Leigh Spusta. Um, he's got a great library that uses some brain entrainment. I try to bring in, you know, certain frequencies that are in alignment with what my clients trying to work on. I've got some singing bowls that I love. I wish I could have all my crystal bowls on the desk, but they will not fit. So what you heard in that was the Silfegio tubes. And they're they've got this little hole that you cover and uncover. And it mimics that binaural brain entrainment, that some tuning forks getter that is, you know, engineered specifically in a studio setting. But I just have fun with it.

Katherine 44:45

Amazing. Okay, Jazzy. Thank you so much. This was really great. You've been listening to Hyp Talks, Original Music by Tracy Moore and the Jazzy Fat Nasties. Podcast Editing and Sound Engineering by Zachary Treaner. If you like what you heard, please like and share and follow us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And if you make a comment, I promise I will respond.