Hello Hoovers

I'm a Member of the Country Club

• Brooke Eden & Hilary Hoover • Season 1 • Episode 6

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Brooke and Hilary discuss growing up in very different kinds of country clubs figuring out who "they" are. 

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Hello Hoovers is a refreshingly candid new podcast from country artist Brooke Eden and her wife, Hilary Hoover, a powerhouse couple whose love story has quietly reshaped what authenticity looks like in country music and beyond.

Brooke is known for her commanding vocals, fearless honesty, and groundbreaking visibility as one of the first openly queer women in mainstream country music. Hilary is a former country radio executive turned real estate investor and LGBTQ family advocate. She brings the kind of calm wit and lived experience of someone who is both behind the scenes and in the spotlight.

Together, they take listeners on wild ride navigating marriage, music, motherhood, and modern queer life in Nashville with the same warmth and humor that made fans fall in love with them in the first place. No topic is off limits —from coming out in a conservative industry to balancing career and parenthood, no conversation is too real, too funny, or too tender to share.

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SPEAKER_00

Hey y'all, I'm Brooke. I'm Hillary. And we're the Hoobers. She's a singer. She's an entrepreneur. We're wives. We're moms. And a whole lot of other things. And this is Hello Hoobers. Well, hello. How are we doing? How are we doing? Moms. Seriously, how are we doing? This is crazy. Like, I haven't had my nails painted in like two months, straight up. I always feel like that is like a very good indication of like how parenthood is going. Well, uh. But you have painted nails and I don't.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but mine need to be redone. But I feel like there's just like when you're a parent, especially if you're like a parent and a business person, you're like, something is gonna fall through. Like we just we can't have it all together all the time. So we do the best we can.

SPEAKER_00

How are you guys doing? We're just getting through the day. No, it's so fun. But like I feel I feel like, you know, you see these hot moms who like just look like everything. Maybe someday. What you're a hot mom.

SPEAKER_01

For us. Maybe someday. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But like, but like look like they have their shit together and are like just chilling and like going to hot pilates, and I'm like, whoo! Like we just put our baby down and like uh life is just fast. Everything's happening so fast.

SPEAKER_01

Well, especially like the way that we do life, it's very like strange. Like there's like not nine to fives and like certain hours and all that kind of stuff. So we're just trying to get back.

SPEAKER_00

Our New Year's resolution this year has been to do less shit. Yeah. Like we're just gonna do less. We've been doing too much. We've been doing way too much. We were the moms that were like, oh yeah, we're not gonna like let a baby slow us down. So we kind of like what's it called? Overcorrected. We like overcorrected and we're like, oh, we're gonna do all the things, and then we did way too many things.

SPEAKER_01

Well, remember we went to Europe last year, and most people were like, Why are you doing that? How are you doing that? And at the time we were like, We got this, which like it was great. It was but I'm just saying, like, we I look back and I'm like, that was crazy.

SPEAKER_00

Well, we went for three weeks with a one-year-old who wasn't walking yet, but was like still very mobile. So he's giant, 30 pounds. So there's that a 30-pound one-year-old. Mm-hmm. Milk.

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Milk.

SPEAKER_01

It's like milk for dinner. Yeah. And breakfast and lunch. The way that you looked at me, like, why did she say, why did she say milk? I don't really understand. It's fine.

SPEAKER_00

That's what our baby drinks, babe. Oh, yeah. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Got it. Oh my God. So we've been talking a lot lately about how we bonded so quickly when we first met. Almost so much that we were like, were we raised in the same house?

SPEAKER_01

Well, a lot of it has been when you were learning that when you have a baby or babies or kids, you start to like kind of learn the certain things that you're gonna pass on or the certain ways you're gonna raise your kid, and you're like, where did I get that? Yeah. Like, where did that come from? And totally luckily, we're very lucky in that we align, like we've aligned very well on parenting. Like, we're not getting everything right, but like the parenting stuff, we tend to agree on most everything, which is great. Yeah, but it's also so funny because there will be these little isms, yeah, that'll be like that come from our mothers.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. We did a trip for Mother's Day two, was it two years ago with our moms?

SPEAKER_01

We invited our moms to New York to come do the GLAAD awards with us. And my mom put water from the sink into the coffee pot. And your mom said, They say you can't do that. This was while we were gone. And like they have a hilarious and fun relationship. And I remember my mom being like, Who's they?

SPEAKER_00

Who's they? And your mom was like, just they, they say that. My mom says they say all the time, probably three times, three to ten times a day. She will be like, Well, they say, and so we always get her on the they say, we'll just always be like, Who's they?

SPEAKER_01

Well, and then my mom got in on it too, and it's kind of become this funny like back and forth in our relationship has been like, Okay, did you get that from your mom? Or like, did you get that from me? It's like a regional yes. Like, where did this come from? And it's like some we have so much in common. But the funny thing is, is like you're Floridian. I'm from Indiana. Hey. And it's like obviously different regions, different states, only child, one of four, and there's just like a lot of differences. And then like I grew up kind of in suburbia. Yeah, you always talk about the country club, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So I grew up in a country club, like, meaning I went to a country club where we like line danced and I sang country music in the country club. Like a country music club, yes. And you, you will always say I did not grow up in a country club, but y'all, her parents live in a country club now and they live a very country club life. And so I say, I grew up in a country music club and you grew up in a country club. Yes, yes, and that very much defines our family lifestyle backgrounds and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah. Do you remember the first time I went home to Carmel with you?

SPEAKER_01

Oh my gosh. Well, to me, I think it's funny because you what you grew up with, you think is normal. Like the lifestyle that you have, what your parents tell you, what how things work in your house, you think is normal. Oh my god. And so then I I think that my hometown is like normal.

SPEAKER_00

And there's nothing normal about her hometown except that it is so normal. It's the most wholesome. It is so wholesome. It is like Truman show adorable.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's just everyone's suburban Indianapolis, and you and I guess I didn't properly prepare you for just how suburban it is and like all the roundabouts, just there's just a lot of roundabouts.

SPEAKER_00

They don't have they don't have stoplights. Yeah, they only have roundabouts. It's very European in that way. Yeah, but like it was the wildest thing. Like, I swear to God that these families were like walking down the sidewalk and their neighborhoods, pushing a stroller with one hand, walking their golden retriever with the other, and somehow waving with a third hand.

SPEAKER_01

So everyone has three arms in my hometown.

SPEAKER_00

Like somehow it was like, it's like, you know, when when you're in a boat and everyone says hi. Yeah. It's cute. My hometown's cute. It's like being in a boat. Yeah. Like if you're driving through a neighborhood, people are gonna say hi. In Florida, if you say hi to someone you don't know, they're like, what does this person want from me? Are they stalking me? Like, what's going on?

SPEAKER_01

Keep in mind, I went to Florida my whole entire life, but like vacation Florida.

SPEAKER_00

No, you went to West Coast of Florida.

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_00

I'm from the east coast of Florida, those are different worlds.

SPEAKER_01

So you're talking about the waving and stuff, like over on my coast. Yes. First of all, it's a vacation thing. It's also because you live in a country club there. Okay, true. But yeah, we wave at everybody, like that's just where I grew up. And the funny thing is, is it's not like I'm from a small town USA. It's like I graduated with a thousand people. Like double mine high school. But I don't know, it's just yeah, pretty wholesome. And you wave at people. But do you know the one of the first? This is like one of my favorite stories of us being like, we are from different places. So we were like singing or like chanting or something, and I was like, Boys go to college to get more, or girls go to college to get more knowledge.

SPEAKER_00

You said boys go to Jupiter to get more stupider, girls go to college to get more knowledge. And at the same time, I was singing girls drink Pepsi to get more sexy. And then we both like we sang our own, then we looked at each other and we were like, What?

SPEAKER_01

I'm like, where I'm from, we talk about the girls going to college to get more knowledge, but down in Florida, y'all just want to get more.

SPEAKER_00

And that was another thing, too. Like when we met, baby, I dressed like a hoochie mama. You did, like full on. It's facts. I wore the short shorts. I mean, I remember one time I got on a plane. Daisy Dukes, babe. Daisy Dukes all the way. Like a cowgirl boot.

SPEAKER_01

It wasn't like let's show one part of the body. It was like we show all.

SPEAKER_00

Baby, it's hot in Florida, okay? You got too much clothes on. You need a fan.

SPEAKER_01

Honey, we were in the Northeast when I met you and you were still dressing like what you mama.

SPEAKER_00

I didn't have any other clothes. No. Do you remember the first time that you came over to my house and you asked for a sweatshirt? And I was like, oh, here's a sweater.

SPEAKER_01

And you were like a long-sleeve t-shirt, kind of that you gave me. Like a long sleeve t-shirt. Like a shirt.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

It wasn't like a sweatshirt. I didn't own a sweatshirt. Yeah, you'd been living in Nashville for like five or six years, I think.

SPEAKER_00

Every time it got cold, I would just go down to Florida. Yeah, I guess so. I didn't have a coat, and I didn't have a coat for like three years of living in Nashville. Because I was just almost like snowbirding it.

SPEAKER_01

Can you believe I was from such a like little wholesome conservative town and I still fell in love with the Hoochie Mama Florida girl over here? Hoochie Mama Brookie. Listen, I loved you, you know, right through all that. I was like, all right, maybe we'll put on some more clothes when we meet my family. But until then, no, that was a thing.

SPEAKER_00

I was like, how do I dress when I go meet your family?

SPEAKER_01

And I was like, put on more clothes, probably.

SPEAKER_00

You're like, maybe wear jeans, don't wear the Hoochie Mom shorts, maybe don't bring your daisy dudes. Like, I love you for who you are, but we're gonna change some things.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. But hold on. I do feel like there's a very, very, very important update here. Oh God, I already know.

SPEAKER_00

Do you know? I know what I'm gonna say. That me and your mom are starting to dress alike? That.

SPEAKER_01

But what I my angle I was gonna go was gonna be you were talking about the country club. Uh-huh. Oh god. Okay. So she tries to act like she's like, ooh, you grew up in a country club.

SPEAKER_00

Like not ooh, just like I'm an outlaw baby, you know? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, not ooh, but more like, like, you're too cool for to be a country club girl. And then little by little, now all of a sudden, she's wearing the zip-up that's got the like country club label on it. And all of a sudden you're like riding in a golf club around the neighborhood's like kind of fun. And then all of a sudden it's like, gosh, it's just great to walk around these neighborhoods, and they're just paved so nicely, and the pool's runway in the street. Everyone waves, and I'm like, honey, you are coming around to the country club.

SPEAKER_00

So I this is you can play tennis whenever you want. I know.

SPEAKER_01

Whenever you want. So this girl who tried to act all like eye-rolly about the country club life is now. I think you're still trying to blame it on me. Like, if someday I end up in a country club, it's cause of this one. And I'm like, and I'm like, you are actually leading the charge. We were not too long ago, we were at my parents' house, and she says to me, I was I was like running an errand or something, and you went on a walk, and she says to me, I went by the golf shop. The golf shop, and I saw this hat that I really liked. And I was like, cool. Like I was just thinking it was some sort of ball cap or something. And I'm like, What, like, oh, like there's there's something cool about it, or whatever. And she was like, No, just had the the country club logo on it, and I was like, What why do you want to listen?

SPEAKER_00

They were like the cutest spring colors. The thread was like this silvery, like sparkly thread, and the thing that got me was that like all my hats just have like a normal like snapback. These had the cool like pickleball like backs where you can wear a ponytail out your hat, which is so much.

SPEAKER_01

I'd really be glad we have this as documentation to show the evolution of Brooke Eden, the Florida girl in Hoochie Mama shorts, to Brooke Eden is gonna be like running the country club someday.

SPEAKER_00

Maybe I'm also a mom now.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Okay. All I know is every time we go to either one of my parents' houses, you end up in my mom's country club clothes.

SPEAKER_00

Just just your mom has good style. Actually, this vest is your sister's or was your sister's. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And I loved it. It was your sister. Yours was.

SPEAKER_00

It now is yours. Yeah. Yeah. When we were home for Christmas, I was like, I love that vest. And her sister was like, Oh, it's from what is what is the the brand? She said it's like Tupperware for clothes. You have to have like a person that like cabbie. See, it's happening. It's cabbie. Yeah. That's like a suburban thing. Yeah. And she's like, oh, my cabbie girl, like I can get in touch with her. And I'm like, what is a cabbie girl? And she's like, oh, it's like Tupperware for clothes. Um, I had no idea. Well, you're learning.

SPEAKER_01

Well, now I I own a cabbie. You um I have another Floridaism that you've gotten better at. But when you learn to drive in Florida, y'all are crazy.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, but also, like, my dad is the craziest driver that I know. I'm just saying. And I learned that from that. I thought it was very normal to yell obscenities at people in the car next to me. Maybe, but I knew nothing other than that. I was like even my mom, who doesn't like wouldn't curse my entire childhood, would still call them like, oh, you dingle hopper, get out of my way. My mom. And she didn't even have road rage.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I guess that maybe is road rage, but I would say that that's what that is.

SPEAKER_00

So listen, that was like my angel was my mom. My dad, my dad was pure road rage. I'm just saying. I came out miraculous.

SPEAKER_01

What I'm saying. I think that I it's just a uh constantly trying to figure out is that just the Florida in you? Like who are we blaming the crazy, crazy driving on? But I will say you've gotten better, especially since we've had a baby. That's that's changed it. Oh that was another regional moment of like, I think that I thought you were a crazy driver and then went down to visit your hometown, and I was like, oh, this is I drive great, yeah, comparatively. Comparatively, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_00

But you guys have to go to driving school in Indiana. I know.

SPEAKER_01

Y'all need to work on it.

SPEAKER_00

We don't have to go to driving school.

SPEAKER_01

Florida is the wild, wild west, baby. Absolutely. Yeah, country, country cloud. We got the Florida man, we got all kinds of things coming out of Florida.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, we just have to do like one test to get your driver's license. You like you get your driver's permit and you have to drive for a year with an adult, and then when you get your driver's license, you just have to do like one driving test, which basically you have to parallel park because we live in Florida and do a three-point turn.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, parallel parking isn't just in Florida, just so you know.

SPEAKER_00

No, I know, but like beach, and there's like a lot of you know, parallel parking in Florida. Totally. Whatever. And then you have to do a three-point turn, and then you have to like use your blinkers.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's why, that's why you'll drive like you do.

SPEAKER_00

They don't I can't believe you have to take a whole school. I mean, you should have to take a whole weapon. Um car is a weapon for sure. Yeah. I mean I'm glad you know now.

SPEAKER_01

I know. I feel like some other things have like come up where like I wouldn't say that your mom or my mom are more, like, neither one of them are more like safety conscious. They're just safety conscious about different things, is what I've found. Yes. And so again, I think because when we were raised, there wasn't like internet and Google, gosh, that makes us sound really old. When like when we were really, really young. But and so like our moms would just be like, Well, I heard, I read somewhere, or my mom told me, and that's how they like got their information. I think that's where your mom's they say started was that like there was not really like a there was a search engine. Just that's what someone told me. Yeah, I want to go into um Okay. So I feel like one of the other things that we talk about a lot is like your mom is very into like is if we're talking about like the safety stuff, like my mom has her things. My mom, it was like it was like f travel is like great and fine, but it was kind of like small planes, helicopters, and um motorcycles. We're just like this isn't even a conversation, these are like hard no's, and I feel like I've totally taken that on where I am like okay, those are like my lines too, and probably we'll pass down to our kids. And I feel like your mom is more about like the kind of like the chemicals in the air and like what causes cancer. We talk about a lot. Um, just kind of a lot of things are bad for you, and I feel like that's what you grew up with. And I didn't grow up with that as much. It was kind of like, all right, you eat what you eat and it's fine.

SPEAKER_00

Like just okay, but you also there were also four of you, so like even think about those things. Like, you're she's thinking your mom is thinking about like how to get you to volleyball and Abby to yes, exactly. Like, there's so much going on, there's so many moving parts that like some fast food. You can have yeah, you're gonna have McDonald's, and my mom would be like, that is way too many trans fats. Totally, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01

Totally just different lifestyles that come with that stuff.

SPEAKER_00

But I know like my mom made dinner every single night. Yeah, she made a meat, a carb, and a vegetable every single night.

SPEAKER_01

And my mom was running from tennis to volleyball. Totally. It was just you have different circumstances, right? And I think that's a lot of times what we're trying to get to is like, did this habit come from a regional thing? Come from a parental thing, or come from like a big family versus only child situational thing? You know, totally.

SPEAKER_00

Well, my mom's thing, I also think that like my mom's thing is like a fear of the unknown. So my entire childhood, we never I never got on a plane until I was 12. I got invited to be on Johnny High's country music review in Texas, and that's how Leon Rhymes got founded. So you better believe that when I got an invitation, my mom was getting her butt and my butt on a plane because I was gonna be famous.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. But had also, correct me if I'm wrong, instilled in you that if you go on a plane, you die. Pretty much. Okay. So but you but it's worth it because we're gonna go get found in Texas.

SPEAKER_00

I could be a star, and there's like a 90% chance that I'll become a star and only 10% chance that we could die on the way there or on the way back.

SPEAKER_01

So, you know, you take your chances, you figure out your, you know, everyone's got their own levels of risk. So up until that point, we don't get on a plane.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, but now we do. So this is how extreme my brain took things, okay?

SPEAKER_01

So we had a little OCD situation.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I was diagnosed with OCD at eight years old.

SPEAKER_01

So this is relevant to this situation.

SPEAKER_00

Four years later, when I'm 12, we are going to Texas, and I realize that I'm unbaptized and I'm about to get on a plane. Quick question. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Is your family you guys didn't do the like baby baptized thing?

SPEAKER_00

You didn't do the baby baptism. That was more for like Catholic families at the time.

SPEAKER_01

You choose to get baptized when you're older. Yes, and you got a choice. And you hadn't gotten to that.

SPEAKER_00

And I hadn't done it, and it was like very much something that was like on my brain of like, I want to do this, but I hadn't done it, right? And my religious trauma was so intense and so deep-rooted. And my my fear of planes was so deep rooted that um, being that I wasn't baptized, this was before 9-11, I brought my own water on the plane and my Nana came with us on the plane as well. And I thought Nana was like about as close to Jesus as you could get. So I had a whole plan in my head that if the plane was going down, I was gonna ask my Nana to baptize me on the way down so that if I died, I would die baptized and I could still go to heaven. Wow. If that doesn't explain to you my level of religious trauma, I don't know what will.

SPEAKER_01

So in your head, Nana was um priestly capable, like like in the eyes of Jesus, yeah. Nana had the power to baptize you in the air. She would be the closest thing. Okay, yeah. So she gave you a shot at going to heaven.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, it wasn't 100%, but it was better than not being baptized at all. I hear you. That is that's incredible. Yeah. Wow.

SPEAKER_01

So, like But you meant you did you did make it.

SPEAKER_00

We actually, yeah. It was we had no turbulence at all. It was it was beautiful. I um I had a Frito pie, like a Texas pie for the first time.

SPEAKER_01

I was just I'm really I'm really fixated here on like visualizing you're on the plane, right? I have my water bottle. So in this scenario, like the plane is going down, but you have enough time to get baptized. And like literally.

SPEAKER_00

I'm not gonna lie, it was probably like at the first sign of turbulence, I was gonna be like, baptize me. Do you know what I mean? Like, if the turbulence happened for more than 10 seconds, I was gonna be like, Nana, I have a plan. And I need this to happen now.

SPEAKER_01

Now you're a world traveler, and now you're like, okay.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I'm baptized now.

SPEAKER_01

Well, it's oh, right, duh. It is interesting though, like what you take with you and what you leave behind with your parents, you know? It's like so much of what we learn, we're like, like just trying to go, am I taking this with me? Am I passing this on to my kids? Or is this something that I'm like, oh my mom was crazy?

SPEAKER_00

Right, totally.

SPEAKER_01

It's like I think too of like just funny things that you grew up with. Like your mom, like we talk about the toxins stuff, right?

SPEAKER_00

Well, how about literally this morning when we were ordering strawberries? We were doing like our like Kroger pickup and we were ordering strawberries, and I'm like, damn, organic strawberries are so expensive.

SPEAKER_01

You were like, Are you sure you want strawberries? And I was like, Yeah. And you were like, Well, they're eight bucks. And I was like, Strawberries, really? And you were like, well, the organic ones. And I'm like, then just don't get the organic ones. And like to you, it was like nothing or organic. Organic, yeah. And I'm sure people have their opinions about this.

SPEAKER_00

They say that strawberries are one of the fruits that you should really buy organic. Okay. Well, I'm sure that they say that. Some of them it don't they don't matter as much, like ones that have like a thicker skin, like an apple. Um, but strawberries specifically, you know, they get a lot of water. We have our things that we care about.

SPEAKER_01

I'm just kind of like, it's great that we're getting fruit. Good for us and our kid, and that's awesome. But that's again, like, I grew up in a house where it was like, don't get me wrong, like, we love our biggest carton. Also, my family, my family's very healthy, like, eats healthy exercises all the time.

SPEAKER_00

Your family lives to be a hundred. Right. They're very healthy.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. But there isn't this, like, it's there's not a whole lot of like we're researching exactly where this thing came from. It's kind of like, yeah, we're gonna have our strawberries that aren't organic and we're gonna grab our McDonald's and we'll get on with our day.

SPEAKER_00

But also, you guys are like, you're getting McDonald's after you do like a two-hour workout for whatever sport you're in. Right. Me, I never played a sport, I never worked out a day in my life. I was just in that chorus room being a little chorus nurse.

SPEAKER_01

Well, the good thing is that someday we're headed to the country club, and supposedly tennis is very good for your health, so we're gonna be just fine. Let's get you in that tennis game. Exactly. But I have a bone to pick with the the rationale with the organic this and the toxic that is didn't you grow up like since you were little, like like little little, like living in smoky bars?

SPEAKER_00

Well, when I was little, little, yeah. They people were still allowed to smoke in thin country bars.

SPEAKER_01

Smoky bars were you having organic strawberries or regular strawberries?

SPEAKER_00

I don't think we even knew what organic was when I was five when I first started singing in the bars. But um, they did change that rule when I was like 10 or 11, where you couldn't smoke in the bars anymore. So then I was like really there all the time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I'm really glad that they figured that out for you. Yeah. Because there were some years where your cute little kindergartner self was hanging out next to Joe Schmo smokerson over there. But you know, I had to be a star, baby. But don't grow up on McDonald's on the way home. No boxins.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Secondhand smoke, fine. McDonald's, bad. Absolutely not.

SPEAKER_01

I just want to make sure that I know what boxes we're fitting into. I want to really make sure I get a good idea of what we're sticking with and what we aren't. To be fair though, you always give me a hard time because I always think everything's a suggestion. Like expiration dates are a suggestion.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my god, like a milk expiration date is not a suggestion.

SPEAKER_01

I just kind of smell it. You do smell it, but like you give me a hard time too, because like if something says like it's not microwavable, like I'm not talking about like I'm not talking about like aluminum foil or like metal.

SPEAKER_00

No, no, because that actually blows up in the mouth.

SPEAKER_01

I'm just saying, like, just like it's a glass plate and I want to like heat up a burrito on it or something.

SPEAKER_00

I look at the bottom and it says non-microwable, and baby, I'm putting that in another plate. Yeah. You're like, it's fine. It's fine. What if it melts? What if the carcinogens are going into the food that you're cooking in in that?

SPEAKER_01

I'm planning on playing a lot of tennis, so I'm just hoping it evens out somewhere. So here's the thing. I don't think that there's like I think the the it's the mindset for me of like there's an absolute right and there's an absolute wrong to everything all the time. Yeah. That bothers me. Like the whole, like, I'm gonna prove my side and it's exactly gonna be like this on all the stuff, like all the health stuff. It's like one day wine is good for you, the next day it's bad for you. I really can't keep up with the whole wine thing. One day coffee is like kind of good, and the other day it's not. Same with like the food. Like some days that they say, like they say the organic foods are extremely like way better than the regular ones. And then the next day it's kind of like, ah, they're about the same. And I'm like, listen, my full-time job is not to be a scientist. I'm not planning on digging into every single piece of information that's ever gonna be sent my way. I'm gonna like take all the information in, I'll take some, I'll leave some. Like, I don't know. I just think that everything in moderation, and I also think that everything in moderation is a that's kind of my key to life. I'm a Libra, babe. Balance, balance, balance, I'm a Capricorn, not so good at balance balance, extremes, one yes or no, one or the other.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. I mean, not extremes, but like just like if you get into something, you're gonna go all the way out. Yeah, that's what I mean. Yeah, totally.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but I don't know. I just think that it's like you can you can rationalize either one on all this stuff. So it's like we just you know, you just figure out what's gonna stick around. And sometimes we align obviously on pretty much everything, like in the larger facets, but it is like those small things that you just go like, like right when we met, it was just like, what do we into?

SPEAKER_00

Like both of us were like, we are like boss women, we care about our careers, like we were very much into country music, we were very much into our families, we were very, very close with our friends. We both like worked very closely in Children's Miracle Network.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, like the we both like worked at the charities for our colleges and stuff like that. And so like we just had a lot of the big pillars, and then like it not that we were relational, a ton into like politics and religion when we were like just meeting 10 years ago. It was really just about like the bonding, but like all of that big stuff, and like same with us wanting kids and all that stuff, like that all really aligned, but it's just how many kids did I want when I first met you? Two, I think.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, well, how many kids are we having, babe?

SPEAKER_01

17, 17,000. Um, but that that is another funny thing. Like, you you're an only child. Like, what how has that influenced like the kids that how many kids you want?

SPEAKER_00

And well, being an only child, I would never want my kid to be an only child. There's just a lot, like, that rests on your shoulders as an only child with like your parents and stuff. Like my parents got divorced, I mediated their divorce. Like, that's wild. And so I definitely, you know, I'm like, I want someone to be able to like go through that with me and like have that same experience with me. Yeah. And so I'm like, I always, and I always just wanted to be a part of a big chaotic family. Like all of my friends, I really married into the perfect family. Yeah, you got all the big and all the chaos. I know. Like being one of four, I think it's funny because like when we will be home with your family, like your parents just make a decision, and like that's just the decision for the whole entire family.

SPEAKER_01

Well, that or they designate somebody to decide.

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Yes.

SPEAKER_01

My mom often will go, I just don't want to decide. Yeah, I don't want to make any more decisions today. But it's not like it's not necessarily, it's not uh what's the word I'm looking for? Like one of the kids doesn't just get to pick, like it is something where like you have to know at all times, and especially now, like there's four kids, we're all married, and so there's like eight of us, four kids, and all having spouses. And so that's a lot of people with a lot of opinions, and not and not strong opinions, but you kind of walk into a big family when you know there's eight adults and my parents, not to mention the kids, and you just know like this is gonna sound bad, but like the entitlement just isn't there. You kind of go in knowing, like, don't get me wrong, I'm loved and I'm cared for, but like my opinion is not the only one that matters.

SPEAKER_00

Like, what I can you imagine if like your parents like weighed the pros and cons of all four of their children and their significant other.

SPEAKER_01

There's obviously like, is everyone cool with having pizza today or Chinese? There's there's obviously that overarching thing, but it's just never like you walk in and you get to decide. And you, I feel like your parents depended on you. It wasn't any sort of you're not entitled at all. You do not give only child vibes at all. But I think that you don't, you really don't. Like whenever people like know that find out that you're an only child, it's like, no, but she's a good one. Cause you know, only children. I don't even know how to take that. Only childs have a bad rap, like as an overall yeah assessment. But you're not. But I will say, I feel like you did feel kind of like that you had to make the decisions because it was kind of like, all right, what does Brooke want for dinner? All right, what does Brooke want to do on Saturday? You know, whereas in my film, it was like, hey kids, this is what we're doing, you know. And it was what the overall group wanted to do, but it wasn't necessarily like up to one of us, if that makes sense. It was just kind of like you just gotta roll with the flow. Yeah, it's just a different mentality, you know.

SPEAKER_00

And I love that. Like, I love, I think that we have even put that into our parenting with one kid, yeah. Where it's like we're not gonna revolve our entire lives around our baby. Like he's gotta adapt. Like, if we're going on vacation, you gotta come. Like, if we have to do if if I'm going on the road, like you might have to come with me. Or, you know, if we're working on an Airbnb, like you might have to come over and hang out in a stroller for a little bit and have some snacks.

SPEAKER_01

By no means, like, you know, it obviously his his needs are number one in our lives right now, but it is kind of something where we're like, you're gonna have to do that. There are just times he's gonna have to go with the flow. Yeah, totally.

SPEAKER_00

And I I'm very happy that we're gonna have hopefully a bigger family. I love, I love the idea of, you know, like uh just a loud house. I love a loud house. Totally. I love like when we go to your hometown and like you walk in, we now have five nieces and nephews and Beckham. So every all the kids are running around, and then there's eight like kid adults and then your parents. Totally. And it's so fun, and everyone gets along so well, and like it's it's just a crazy big chaotic thing.

SPEAKER_01

I've also watched your how many kids do we want number go up. This is another thing that you like to act like. I'm the one pushing, but really, like, the longer we've been together, the more you're like, okay, we could do a few more.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, but we have like the greatest son.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we're not biased at all, though. Not at all. No, no, no, but it is fun. I think like once you, you know, you don't know when you have your first kid, like, is obviously having a kid changes your life, and you're gonna like love that child, but not everybody loves parenting and loves like the idea of a growing family, and it's just a lot of changes. And I feel like we're like, wait, this has been really fun, you know? And so I feel like because of that, we're kind of like, all right, let's do it. Our numbers are slowly going up, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And we're just getting older. Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_01

So I'm like, all right, we gotta, we gotta keep keep them rolling. We're loving this like time with him with our son and everything, but I do feel like it does make us go like, all right, if you want a big chaotic family, you gotta kind of get to move in. Get to move in. I know, yeah, for sure. But it's been funny watching your only child like perspective adapt a lot as you've been now part of a big family for like 10 years. Yeah. I remember my mom, obviously, like you and my mom are really like fun and playful and make fun of each other a lot. And I remember my mom saying that it must have been like around your birthday, but there was like a few birthdays at that time, and it was like, all right, we're gonna go grab dinner. Where do you guys want to go? And you like put your vote in, and where you wanted to go didn't end up being chosen. And you were obviously like a good sport about it. I like so don't care. No, no, no, you don't care at all. But I mean, it was funny because you kind of had the response. I think you said something to my mom, like, I've never really put my vote in on where I wanted to eat, and that didn't end up happening. Like, it's always just been like, where does Brooke want to go? You're like, it's kind of funny to like get outnumbered and just be like, okay, you know, that's that's how it works here.

SPEAKER_00

For me, you know, we we have a few December birthdays. Yeah. Justin is the fifth, and then Caroline is the 22nd, that's our niece. And so I'm literally like, whatever Caroline wants is what we're gonna do. And then my father-in-law is the 27th, and then I'm the 30th. So we have like a whole December birthday crew. Yeah, but I'm always like, yeah, whatever Caroline wants to do, like, I'm always like, what theme do you want? And she's like, mermaids. Like you're like, and I'm like, do what I wanted. Mermaids. Like the last three years, it's just been like Taylor Swift.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, true, true. She's kind of queen right now in our world, which I'm down with.

SPEAKER_00

So yes, Beckham is a huge Swiftie. He's turned us into Swifties. We watch the Eratora all the time. Yeah, it's it's happening. It is happening slowly but surely. Slowly but surely. It only took us 20 years to just understand the power of T Swizzle. Listen, I've been around as a Swiftie a lot longer than you have, so I mean, she got me with 1989. So, but I just didn't feel like I was um allowed to give myself like this dirty like name because I didn't feel like I had earned it, and I feel like I'm like getting closer now.

SPEAKER_01

Well, Bex is our oldest, he's gonna whatever, for better or for worse, he's gonna be leading the pack on DJ. Hopefully, hopefully, our multiple babies. Number TBD. You know, we'll have to check back in depending on you know what what mood we're in that day. But it's been a it's been fun leading you closer and closer to the big family that is in a country club. And you have also impacted me in a lot of ways. You know, I love myself a good country dive bar down in Florida. You do, I do, but like make it tiki.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I put it on the water. I remember taking you to like my hometown tiki bar where I used to play every Saturday, and you were like, Oh, we're moving here, right? Like, this is everything to me. And I'm like, it is so great.

SPEAKER_01

Listen, there are pros and cons. I only knew the like cute tropical Florida for a long time, and then I saw, you know, some drag racing that went down and some other Florida isms, and I thought, you know, maybe Nashville's good for a while. We'll visit a really good spot to get to go home to. A great place to visit. But we'll take little bits and pieces of Florida, we'll take little bits and pieces of my little Truman Truman Show, is that what you call it? My little Truman should be suburban hometown isms and you know, form our own little little nuggets.

SPEAKER_00

Form our own isms that our kids are gonna be talking about in 20 years.

SPEAKER_01

Ooh, that's so interesting. Right. To think about what they are gonna be talking to their friends and be like, well, my moms do it this way.

SPEAKER_00

I have to baptize myself before I get on a jet ski.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I mean, I'm hoping our kids have a little bit less religious trauma, but listen, you know, we'll take we'll take bits and pieces from both.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I'm just happy that whatever we took from our families led us to each other. Aww. Ew, that was so gross. Yeah, that was gross. Anyways, it's a perfect time to say goodbye. We're getting cringe. Getting cringe. Yeah. Gotta go. Gotta go.

SPEAKER_01

Getting cringe, gotta go.

SPEAKER_00

See you next week.