Been Done Did That with The Cowgays

The Hoovers celebrate the launch of Brooke's new band featuring Adam Mac and Chris Housman, AKA The Cowgays!

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Hello Hoovers is a refreshingly candid new podcast from country artist Brooke Eden and her wife, Hilary Hoover, a powerhouse couple whose love story has quietly reshaped what authenticity looks like in country music and beyond.

Brooke is known for her commanding vocals, fearless honesty, and groundbreaking visibility as one of the first openly queer women in mainstream country music. Hilary is a former country radio executive turned real estate investor and LGBTQ family advocate. She brings the kind of calm wit and lived experience of someone who is both behind the scenes and in the spotlight.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:43

She's a singer, she's an entrepreneur, we're wives, we're moms, and a whole lot of other things. And this is Hello Hoover.

SPEAKER_01 0:51

Hi, Cowgays. Hey Cowgays. That was good. This is like just after you guys formed the band, and I feel like you already got your like interview ready.

SPEAKER_04 1:03

We've been practicing our synchronicity. It actually was just natural.

SPEAKER_03 1:07

I'm mad that we didn't do it in harmony, but it's fine. We'll practice that later. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:11

We've only been a band for six days official.

SPEAKER_01 1:15

I was just gonna say, I was like, all right, well, we're already on it. So like cut us. We're like newborns. Yeah. Six days old. I know.

SPEAKER_04 1:22

Two little gay babies.

SPEAKER_01 1:23

Well, in I feel like we have been talking about this for a long time, but it was six days ago that we actually like told the internet that you guys exist. Yeah. And already we've had what industry people reaching out. We've had some people wanting to take you out on tour. We've had some celebrity sightings in the comment section. Shout out Megan Trainer. Megan Trainer. Shout out Marin Morris.

SPEAKER_04 1:46

Marin Morris.

SPEAKER_01 1:47

The divas are in the comments. Guys, this is it's going down.

SPEAKER_04 1:51

It's going down, isn't it? So crazy. It feels wild. Yeah, it feels so crazy.

SPEAKER_03 1:56

No, I mean, I think that the three of us were. I mean, obviously, when we started this band, we were like, oh my gosh, family band, this is so fun. Like, wait, our voices sound good together. Like, this is cool. And I feel like just getting to like make the music in and of itself was like such the like, wait, we get to do this. And then to put it out and get the response that we've gotten so far is like just absolutely wild.

SPEAKER_04 2:22

It's like what we hoped it would be, um, but like we're nervous about, and then to see it happen on the first video is just like so validating.

SPEAKER_01 2:32

Yes. Well, I'm honored to be um your first interviewer.

SPEAKER_04 2:37

Our Barbara Walters this evening.

SPEAKER_01 2:39

I just feel like, you know, like I know a girl. So I was able to get in, you know, right after the band got and out. Oh my god. Already, already we went there. But like, yeah. But like, yeah. But like, yeah. Um I feel like people now that the band has been announced, I feel like people think like that don't know us really well, think like, oh my gosh, cool. Like three guy singers found each other. Like, I don't know that people realize like that this is like so organic and like truly is like the people that we hang out with on Friday nights, the people that we watch drag race with every week. Like that this is like our actual family and you guys made it what it is. T.

SPEAKER_04 3:20

Well, and it kind of started as that first, right? Which is why it's like feels so natural, maybe that we just drunkenly sang together in Mexico and it was kind of over from there.

SPEAKER_01 3:32

I want you guys to expand on how that happened. Because that's the original.

SPEAKER_03 3:37

I feel like we should we should tell the people like how we all met. Because I do think it's really wild. So you guys knew each other first, which I have like FOMO for all those years.

SPEAKER_04 3:47

I know all the mis years.

SPEAKER_03 3:49

So many miss years. I know. So you guys met in what?

SPEAKER_00 3:52

What was it? We've probably known each other since like 2016, 17. Yeah, I think 16.

SPEAKER_04 3:57

Yeah, because it was right before Lee and I got together, which was 17. So, like, yeah, oh my gosh, probably like a decade from that. Wow. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:04

Call me peanut butter and jelly. I'm so jealous. Because I feel like I was so like looking for that community during that time. Like, we were really, really looking for like our queer community, like our people. And it took us, I feel, so so long to find it. And now that we have each other, it's like this really is like our chosen family tree. Yeah, you know. It's like, where have you been?

SPEAKER_01 4:28

Where have you been on my life?

SPEAKER_04 4:30

Also, doesn't it feel like it's we've known each other forever at this point?

SPEAKER_01 4:33

Well, yes, Brooke and I got married in 2022, and it freaks us out that we didn't know each other at that time. And like you weren't at our wedding? Yeah, it's weird.

SPEAKER_00 4:43

It's pretty fucking rude.

unknown 4:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:46

Well, it's weird that we didn't meet until we met.

SPEAKER_00 4:48

Why didn't you wait a little bit longer?

SPEAKER_03 4:51

No, we literally think about it all the time. We're literally like, if we would have gotten married one year later, I know. Literally one year later, right? I know. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:59

So you guys, how did you guys meet?

SPEAKER_00 5:01

Through just like the there was a like queer, kind of the only queer music thing that I knew of at the time was like this queer writer's round. Rainbow? Yeah, rainbow.

SPEAKER_04 5:12

But then also like Bell Court Taps, like writers round days. I feel like I hung out with Emily Amber, and she's the first person that ever told me it was very much one of those like straight people thing who's like, I have a gay friend. Do you know him? And I'll tell you.

SPEAKER_03 5:29

Did she think that maybe you guys would date?

SPEAKER_04 5:31

Or maybe, but I think she just thought, like, oh, gay country singers only met one of one other one of those, and it was him. Um, and I think she was just thinking, like, how do you not know him? And I was like, I don't know. And then we became like social media friends and then started writing together. Like, I guess it was a few years after that.

SPEAKER_00 5:52

Yeah, but then but yeah, that was when really like we knew of each other, and like we're always, you know, so sweet to each other when we saw each other, but really then finally, after too long, uh, we were like, Oh, we need to write a song together. Yeah, and and that first right was like, oh, okay. We wrote my song him.

SPEAKER_04 6:09

Um, which at the time we all we've told this story before, but um at the time we were like just writing it thinking like this could never see the light of day because it's so kind of provocative and like a little like risque. But we were just like having fun and it was a first right, and so we were just like fuck it, let's just like go there. Yeah, we'll never be able to release this, and then flash forward to recording disco cowboy. And I had kind of reached my like fuck it era of like your slutty era? Well, more so just like I'm not uh ashamed or hiding what what what I am, who I am, and what kind of music I make. And I was like, I'm just gonna record him and put it on my album. Um, and then that led to many other risque homosexual debauchery.

SPEAKER_00 6:58

Yeah, and and for people that haven't heard that song, which they should go check it out. But the hook of it is like, I ain't much a man of the church, but I can get down on a hymn. And and also that's your mom's favorite song on that album, right? Shout out to Betty! Shout out to Betty. She's a freak.

SPEAKER_04 7:14

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 7:16

Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. So, um, and then next, you you and Chris and Brooke, you guys found each other on the on TikTok, right? Was it a pandemic friendship? Was that what it was?

SPEAKER_00 7:28

Kind of 2021, like just starting, I mean. I remember being so pumped when Brooke followed me back on Instagram. I was like, oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01 7:36

Oh my gosh, can you believe now you are friends with?

SPEAKER_00 7:39

Yeah, isn't that a bandwidth? Like, what?

SPEAKER_03 7:42

No, it really is so wild. Like, I remember hearing Blue Neck and being like, oh my gosh, someone like wrote a song for us, you know? And I was just like, such a fan of your voice and your songwriting and the way that your brain thinks about politics and like humanity and all the things it with music, right?

SPEAKER_04 8:02

Yeah, period.

SPEAKER_03 8:03

Like, just so good. And so, yeah, did I I think I messaged you on Insta or on it TikTok or something.

SPEAKER_04 8:09

Yeah, one of those.

SPEAKER_03 8:10

And I was like, Can we be friends? Yes.

SPEAKER_00 8:12

I was like, please.

SPEAKER_03 8:14

Yeah, please.

SPEAKER_00 8:14

I'm actually obsessed with something I tried to be cool and like, oh my god, yeah. No baby.

SPEAKER_01 8:19

Yeah, I'm sure if you like wanting to like I think about how like when you say that to people on social media, a lot of times they like don't pan out because that's life and whatever. And this, like, I just feel like you had no idea that when you originally reached out to each other that it would be like, oh, someday we're gonna be best friends and form a band together.

SPEAKER_03 8:37

So yeah, I mean, literally, what are the chances? And then uh we met Adam and Lee because they were in my music video for Outlaw Love. I loved this.

SPEAKER_04 8:47

Before we'd even met.

SPEAKER_03 8:48

Before we'd even met. And I remember Ford went to go and film y'all. Yes. And he was like, You guys, I just have to tell you. He comes to Hill and I and he's like, You have to make me a promise. You cannot get closer to Adam and Lee than you are to me. Okay, because you guys are gonna meet and fall in love, and that's fine, but you can't be more in love with them than you are with me. And we were like, Accurate, yes, and we literally were like, Really? Is it are they like that? Like, like, you know, are people he's like, oh hell yeah. And so yeah, he was so right.

SPEAKER_01 9:24

I mean, you had talked about how we had like we had friends in Nashville from the industry and from college and and all these other ways, but we didn't really have like a gay tribe. And then we like met some gays, met some queers, it was great, but we then at that point I felt like we didn't know a lot of like gay couples, you know. And that was when we were looking for people for your music video. That was when Ford went and was like, Adam and Lee. By the way, Lee is Adam's man, Adam's hubby, if you didn't know. And so at the time, I don't I don't know that you guys were engaged yet. I think you were just dating, but yeah, and so we were like, oh, cool, like a cute, like little gay couple that's been together.

SPEAKER_03 10:01

Oh, and Ford was like, Oh, and also they're full on lesbians. And at the time, yes, and at the time I was like, make it make sense, like what do you mean? And he's like, Oh, they're in love like like lesbians. And I was like, Oh, fully makes sense, get it, see it, and you are.

SPEAKER_01 10:17

It's so fucking cute. Why is it such a thing? Like gay men are in love in a certain way, and lesbians are in love in a certain way, and I don't even know how to put it into words, but it just is what it is.

SPEAKER_03 10:25

It's heated rivalry, yeah. It's like that kind of like lesbian man love.

SPEAKER_00 10:29

Yes, let's go to the card. Which was written by a woman, by the way, which is why it attracts me. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 10:37

Of course, you would know that information. This is this is why you're such an important part of the cow case, is because Adam and I have a lack of knowledge, and you have a lot of knowledge.

SPEAKER_01 10:47

Yes, you all have your own roles.

SPEAKER_03 10:51

Ours is to be stupid and Chris is to make it all make sense.

SPEAKER_04 10:56

Somehow finally piece together the universe to make our stupidity make sense. And we will. Yeah, I'll try. I'll try. All glory to guts.

SPEAKER_01 11:03

All glory to gus what I love though is that like it really did start just as besties and like watching you guys form a band. Because I'm like in, but I'm also like on the outside looking in in a way, and I'm like, it's weirds me out how like the friendships all were like a very easy thing, and then you guys become a band. And I'm like, why does it work in every way? Like you guys just in it's just like when you three are together, I'm like, why do you guys just fit together so well, like as a group? And I did want to talk about now that we've figured out how you guys met each other, about the infamous um first harmonies that happened and just talk about Mexico. Talk about so we went on a trip to Mexico. Yeah, just as well.

SPEAKER_04 11:43

I think we had only been friends for like six months. We were like freshly friends and then went on vacation together, which like sounds like a nightmare, to be honest. To go on a vacation with someone you don't really know. Yeah, totally. Um, because I'm a like just me and Lee, we'll do whatever we want on vacation. We go on vacation with like 12 people or something crazy. I had also never been out of the country, like, never flown out of the country before.

SPEAKER_03 12:09

Did you have to get a passport for that?

SPEAKER_04 12:11

Yes, remembering it almost didn't happen. It was like a whole shit show of trying to get the passport. I'm glad you got our claws in you.

SPEAKER_01 12:18

So come on. Yes, come on, come on, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 12:21

Um, and but but no, it was literally one of the best vacations of our lives. We had the most fun, and then it was also your birthday, right?

SPEAKER_03 12:30

It was my birthday weekend, yeah. Your birthday slash News Eve. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:35

And it was I think that day, too, if I'm not mistaken, was the day we went out on the catamaran. We had like several shots, then we had margaritas. It was like my favorite day. I pushed you into the bar on the song set. Adam slammed into a bar. Yeah. I survived. Out of love. Out of love.

SPEAKER_04 12:52

It was truly out of love.

SPEAKER_00 12:53

Yeah. But then at the end of that day, and was that I don't know if that was New Year's Eve. No, it wasn't. But um, yeah, we just kind of started. Somehow we were singing in a stairwell. I don't remember, guys. I don't know how we parted.

SPEAKER_01 13:07

I want to clarify by saying there is video evidence of this. There is, I just good because otherwise you might not have remembered. Right.

SPEAKER_03 13:15

No, we literally watched it the other night and were freaking out because it really was so organic and wild. And like the way that we all looked at each other, so puzzled, like, wait, should we be a trio? And Adam's like, ha ha ha ha, a family band.

SPEAKER_01 13:35

Family band. Guys, at the time, it was so like a lol, what if? It was not like a real like, let's do this. Like, it was really just like, oh my gosh, that was fun.

SPEAKER_04 13:49

December of 2023. And here we are in February or March of 2026, and it's like just now announcing the band. So it really has been a long time in the making. Like we've spent the last really since that moment. Like that moment was L O L J K, but then it was also like, wait, but no, like we should at least just like write together and see what happens when we write together. Because like obviously, we had written together, we had written together, but we had We had written together. Okay, but we had never all written together until after that. And then it was really on from there. We had a little writing camp with uh Jess Kane and who else. Yep. And um, I think it was in those sessions that we kind of discovered something magical.

SPEAKER_03 14:41

And like who the cow gays are.

SPEAKER_04 14:43

Yeah, totally. Found the sound, found like what we loved about country music, but like didn't necessarily do in our solo careers, but like there was some sort of power in the three of us coming together to do something bigger than ourselves. You know, right?

SPEAKER_03 14:59

It's like we found our point of view that week.

SPEAKER_04 15:02

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:03

Well, and what I found so strange was that I'm like, normally, like, yes, you guys have been like talking about the band for a year and a half and stuff, but normally it takes like, you know, a dozen or two writing sessions to go like, oh, we found our sound. Like you came home with music from the very first write. And almost every single time you guys have written, it's been like, well, okay, like we you just keep on like knowing yourself so well that there's never a song you come home with, and we're like, oh, that didn't really hit. It was like the you guys know your voice, you know who you are. And as a band, which is so interesting because you guys are three solo acts that are doing like you're queer country, but you're doing different things, very different things. So then, how do you guys go all of a sudden into a writing room and find your sound like right away? It's just cool to see how you guys like get to express yourself differently as a trio, you know?

SPEAKER_03 15:53

Yeah, I mean, I think that when we went into that first writing kind of campy thing that we did, I think that we all were talking about how much we uh grew we grew up on 90s country and how much we loved 90s country, but that none of us really did that in our solo projects. And I think that that was like a place that we all really draw from. And as a group, we just keep going there. Like it's just where we naturally go when we're writing together. Even the first song that Adam and I wrote, just the two of us, it's very 90s country, and we're actually we're actually recording it as the cow gaze because it's just a cow gaze song. Like it is 100%. Um kids like us.

SPEAKER_00 16:39

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:40

But it is that 90s country sound, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:42

And I think even like you heard so much more harmony and stuff in the 90s than you do in the last like couple decades, which is unfortunate, but and a lot of those influences, the chicks, even like the deep cuts like Shadazy, uh early rascal flats, stuff like that, the Brooks and Dunn. Um, even Shania was the solo artist, but had so much harmony um from Mutt and her and every single song. Yeah, so like that was a natural like gravitation too. And another thing too about like these first times riding and like really discovering our sound, you don't know like, okay, yeah, like let's maybe do a trio, but it's a whole other level when you're like, oh, our voices actually sound so fucking good together. Yes, the natural blend and stuff. I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 17:27

So just leaning into which I was not a harmony queen when we started this show.

SPEAKER_03 17:31

I was just gonna I think that you just didn't know you were a harmony queen.

SPEAKER_04 17:36

Well, I still have nerves around it, but having Chris always just like makes me feel a little more at ease to know that like I can just be like, bitch, give me my note. What's my part? What's my part?

SPEAKER_03 17:50

Yeah, I feel that way too. You know, I feel like I'm I, you know, even though I was in choir and stuff, like uh I don't know. I feel like I'm always like, uh, yeah, I got the melody, you know, and this has like really pushed me to be like, oh wait, there's a really cool part here or there or whatever, and like I'm learning with you, babe.

SPEAKER_04 18:11

Yeah, but it's been fun, it's been so fun. And then when we like listen back to things, it's just like holy shit, like we really did that.

SPEAKER_01 18:21

I want to put you guys on the spot and ask you, because you're kind of talking about how Chris helps you guys with harmonies. Okay. So I want to put you guys on the spot and ask, like, what have you found are like your natural roles as a trio? Like, what have you like, and I kind of want you guys to talk about each other. Like, what do you guys see Brooke as in the group? What do you see Adam as? What do you guys see Chris as? I just want to hear your like thoughts on how it's you've come together so well, but like you're still three humans, and I want to hear how that's blended.

SPEAKER_00 18:48

Okay, who should we start with?

unknown 18:50

Brooke.

SPEAKER_00 18:50

I think we'll start with Brooke, yeah. Okay, okay. Brooke is father, Brooke is also mother. She is mother, but she's also father. If that doesn't make sense, just like think of I don't know. It makes sense to us, and that's all that's all that matters.

SPEAKER_04 19:03

Um, but she also has a wisdom that Chris and I don't possess. Um, she's been been dunted this before. Um, and just has like a wisdom and knowledge of the industry and how things operate, and having toured on a much larger scale and done things in the industry that Chris and I haven't done, that really brings like a knowledge that Chris and I really feed on. And then, of course, vocals house down boots is like really what she's bringing to this group is like vocals on another level. What do you think?

SPEAKER_00 19:40

Yeah, and I mean, just like I think definitely for myself, and I'm sure we all actually agree, but like so much of the 90s and influence from country has always been like divas, and Brooke is that iconic, you know, country diva, Princess Queen. I really like if I think about all my influences like always been female artists in country music. So, like having like that voice and then like working voice. Yeah, exactly. And um, I mean, I just feel so like so fortunate, so blessed. Uh uh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:21

All right, let's talk about Chris Hausman.

SPEAKER_00 20:23

Uh you say.

SPEAKER_03 20:24

Chris is Mr. Family Band. I mean, growing up in a family band, there is nothing like having that type of knowledge in a trio. Yes. I mean, like, you know, Adam and I have already said a couple of times, like, we did not grow up necessarily on harmonies and being able to like really know your part, and you are king of that, and you create such a like calm, like you're never mansplainy about it. You're never like you know, that sucked. It's more like this. Like, you're so patient with us.

SPEAKER_04 21:02

Oh my god, but he's so golden retriever just in nature that he could never mansplain or like uh be a talk down. Yeah, no, no, no, no, and watch me. Someday I'm gonna pop off.

SPEAKER_03 21:16

I won't be so proud of you.

SPEAKER_04 21:19

Just don't do it on me because I'm too sensitive.

SPEAKER_03 21:23

Sensitive, sweet, sweet. But also just like like you know, musicianship.

SPEAKER_04 21:29

I was gonna say musicianship, also the way your brain works. I mean, truly one of my favorite co-writers because I just we are just oftentimes on the same wavelength during sessions, and like whether it be a production thing, a lyric thing, we kind of just hear music the same way. Um, and I I love what you bring to a writing room. I love um your ideas. Like, I I mean, many of our Calgay's ideas wish I Wasn't gay being one of them came straight from your brain. Yeah. Um, and the way that you think about the world and translate that into song is so special. Yeah. And we lean on that heavy.

SPEAKER_00 22:11

Oh my god. Am I gonna be the first person to cry on the podcast? Let's go.

SPEAKER_04 22:15

If you even love us, you will.

SPEAKER_01 22:18

You support tears here on this podcast. Yes. Yes. Let's talk about Miss Adam Mack himself.

SPEAKER_03 22:25

Oh my gosh. I mean, yeah. First of all, vocals. Oh. Yeah. Thank you. The power. The power is there. Um, but I also think that just like all the country bumpkin ass shit that you say, like ends up being titles, ideas, lyrics all the time.

SPEAKER_04 22:46

You can thank Betty Jean for that. Oh, I thank Betty Jean for a lot. Everything.

SPEAKER_01 22:51

What is the line he keeps saying over and over again? I done didn't. Been done did that. Been done did that.

SPEAKER_00 22:57

And that was just like uh on the whim, done like everything.

SPEAKER_03 23:00

Dun gone dun gone and done it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 23:05

Yeah. Betty and gone and done it. Is that the lyric, or is that just what I was saying?

SPEAKER_03 23:11

Oh, it's doggone.

SPEAKER_04 23:12

Doggone. Doggone. So from now on, it's been done gone and done it. It's perfect.

SPEAKER_03 23:20

But no, like you you also create like such uh uh whimsical um energy and light and the beat is always on point, you know? But I think one of my sorry, you no no, sorry, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:37

Uh I mean, but that keeping it light and like truly one of the most hilarious people I've ever known in the world in my life. Uh and that is like that energy and stuff is so vital to the cow gaze because like the world's fucking heavy on like we and like and I think so much of like our whole identity as the cowgays is like keeping you know, providing this safe space and light and humor and escape from the and also reclaiming the 90s country that we wanted that we didn't get. So like Adam's just personality shines in any room or any phone screen he's on, and um and also just one of the best friends in the world.

SPEAKER_03 24:17

Um truly, truly, but that energy, sorry baby. No, go that energy really translates on stage too. Yes, you know, like you can't not have fun when you're on stage without him.

SPEAKER_04 24:30

Because we gonna shut it down. We've been dead, gone, gone dead. We do be working on stage, Eddie.

SPEAKER_01 24:38

Well, if you don't, I just want to like add to that by saying if you don't know us in person, like I just want to reiterate like the goofiness, like the over the top, the playfulness is when we're working, when we're together, when you guys are doing anything, like it's just a freaking blast. Like, there isn't like of course you guys have work to do and you have songs to write and you gotta hone in, but just being around you guys as a band is so much fun because I'm like, this is not turn it on for this, like you're just giggling the entire time. And it's so much fun. It's how people dream about I think working or like having a band together.

SPEAKER_04 25:16

Right, yeah, it doesn't feel like work because we really are having so much fun. I know that sounds like eh. No, but like really and truly, we do have so much fucking fun together that it makes it all the rest of it easy.

SPEAKER_01 25:28

Well, I think what's so interesting about you guys is that I know we were talking about how the world is heavy and we keep it light. But with that being said, I think what's so interesting is that you guys are all from different places and you all have such similar like stories in a way, like even though you grew up differently, like similar religious trauma, similar stories coming to Nashville, similar concepts like with your careers and what you've wanted to do with them. So it's like kind of strange because we got like Florida, can Kansas, Kentucky, and yet y'all are all like, um, this is kind of like the deepest, darkest thing that I went through, and somehow it all like relays, but then how do you make it fun and hilarious, but also dig into the deep religious trauma? It's just a cool combination. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Trauma makes you funny. Trauma makes you funny.

SPEAKER_03 26:15

Yeah, it does. And I do think that all of us are kind of trauma bonded in a way, in like a very healthy way, because we all have like deconstructed and reconstructed our like entire souls.

SPEAKER_04 26:25

I feel like doing this being in this industry as queer people, as queer people who like, although we were openly gay, um, and you were late to the party, um even still though, we all had a common bond of like having tried to be in this industry and um suppress who we are or try to fit into something that we really weren't, but we just wanted to do this so bad that we were like, what do we have to do? So I think that also um bonds us and then also makes us a little more brave and bold to do what we're doing as the cowgays. Um because we Ben Dunn did that.

SPEAKER_01 27:12

Yeah, like that should just be your slogan now. Cowgays, been done did that.

SPEAKER_00 27:16

That's like our first album. Yeah, we all have that experience of like watering ourselves down in some way or another to some extent. Yeah, um, yeah, because the same with like I was openly gay and spent a lot of years not even pursuing country music, even though that's what I moved to Nashville to do because I had just come out and I was 2008, and I was like, Oh, I you know, I guess I can't do that anymore, so I'll just work in the industry. But then and then even when I started releasing stuff, it was just like not using pronouns. Um it was like blue next.

SPEAKER_04 27:48

Yeah, a lot of you's a lot of a lot of direct, direct songs talking directly to the person.

SPEAKER_02 27:53

You look in my eyes.

SPEAKER_00 27:56

A lot of they's and thems, but not even in the queer way. God, you are you've always been so progressive. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_01 28:05

Yeah. Listen, you's are good. Brooke was still throwing he's around when we met.

SPEAKER_03 28:10

So I I know I'm like, it was so painful, it was so painful. And it's wild what you'll do, like trying to like be literally like save yourself. You know what I mean? Like when something that you want as badly as we all want to be country artists, and like that is just who we are innately in our souls, and then like you know, you're told by the powers that be and the people that literally control your entire career. Like, you know, you're not gonna have a career if you let this cat out of the box. Out of the box. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 28:51

Cat out of the bag.

SPEAKER_00 28:54

No, this cat's in a box.

SPEAKER_02 28:56

My cat's not in a box.

SPEAKER_04 28:58

This cat's in a box.

SPEAKER_03 29:01

That's the gayest thing I've ever said.

SPEAKER_01 29:04

Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. Um, I feel like when people, like now that the cat is out of the bag on the cowgase, I feel like people will ask kind of like more because at this point right now, we haven't actually released a song yet. Um, and so people want to know more about the cow gays. And I feel like one of the things I use to describe you guys is it's like making a 90s country queer. Yeah. But also like the other part I feel like is like kind of making fun of yourselves and being in on the joke of like we're gay and in country music, and like no one thought that we were gonna be gay and in country music, so let's double down on the music.

SPEAKER_04 29:45

And now we're doubling down, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:46

Yeah, and that's I think what I like about you guys is that it's like you're just going all the way there. Like the stuff I think you were talking about writing songs that you didn't think would see the light of day. I mean, you guys have some songs where I'm like a few years ago, I would have been like, you are not releasing that, and now I'm like, let's go. That's what's fun about you guys.

SPEAKER_05 30:03

If you can't laugh at yourself, how the hell are you gonna laugh at somebody else?

SPEAKER_01 30:10

Chris, that was the best possible transition that could have ever happened. Literally, my next question was gonna be about drag queens. Oh this is a couch of drag queen lovers. Yes. This is a couch of RuPaul's drag queen, drag race lovers. Yes. Yes. So I do feel like it's only appropriate for us to just, you know, touch on who our favorite drag queens are. Okay. Starting with Brooke.

SPEAKER_03 30:36

Oh, I mean mother, Sasha Colby is probably my like number number one. But I also, I mean, here's the thing with with Sasha Colby, which we all know is she really is mother in the sense that like her energy is so like, I got this, and I got you. Like, we got to, she hosted Kamala Harris's pride party that Hill and I got to go to, and her aura is so like, even to strangers, like, I got your back. Don't you worry. Like, I got this, and it's so commanding and so mother that I just just love her, but I also love Sam Sam Starr. Oh, yeah. I want all of her, all of her get ups. Like, literally, so she we both played market days, and she went on at two, and I went on at three, and everyone in the audience was like, who saw whose outfit?

SPEAKER_04 31:35

I mean it's kind of twin. I know, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:39

I love that. Wait, I'll just quickly say I noticed today that so right now the Cowgays granted we're a brand new baby account, but right now we follow Brooke, Adam, myself, and Sam Starr. Really? I noticed that today. Oh no, that was me.

SPEAKER_03 31:56

Oh my god, it was me. It was so me. So I was so confused because you're like, how am I not gonna do it? Were you logged into the cowgays account? Logged into the cowgays account. Oh my god. I was like, I know that I follow Sam Star. Like, that's pretty funny. That's hilarious.

SPEAKER_00 32:13

The one other person other than ourselves that we follow right now. So my god. I'm not gonna change it.

SPEAKER_05 32:18

Yeah, if you want to, that's it. We can't unfollow it. No, you can't. No, you can't.

SPEAKER_01 32:24

I mean, I guess asking for a one favorite drag queen is kind of hard to do, but if you can narrow it down, Chris, to a few. Oh my god, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:33

I've got really, and I have to admit, um, as ashamed of it as I am, I'm newer to the drag race phenomenon that it is.

SPEAKER_01 32:42

We still accept you. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:43

I watched the first like four seasons when they came out, then took a break. Now I'm even catching back up on the in the last few years. Honestly, Adam and Lee uh like got you back in, got me back in. My boyfriend also is like an encyclopedia of drag race. Yes. But um, so like so Bob, obviously, Bob the drag queen, like just every single thing about Bob is incredible. The comedy. The comedy and like and also like Bob and Traitors, like it's not the translation to the podcast, the everything is just star, star, star. Uh and then I also like Nymphya Wind, just the art and the comedy. I love Nymphira. Like the comedy, like so fucking hilarious and stupid, which is our brand. Which is our brand.

SPEAKER_01 33:31

As a friend group. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:33

So I think those are like my my like two, if I had to yeah, pick two.

SPEAKER_04 33:38

I have too many to count. I know, I know. It's too long.

SPEAKER_01 33:43

Mount Rushmore. Hold on. Oh my gosh. Fun facts about Adam Mack. So if you're hanging out with Adam Mack, he is silly, he is playful, he's kind of like aloof, like, I don't know. Ask my husband, I don't know, ask my friends. Except if you say one thing about drag race, I will be like, oh, we're catching up on All Stars Season Six. And he'll be like, who's your favorite? These are my top four. This is, I mean, you are an encyclopedia. You and Morgan. It's craziest. Why? You become like rain man of it's the craziest thing I've ever seen.

SPEAKER_03 34:15

No, it really is. I have been at like glad awards and different and like and I have literally like he is the Google of drag queens. Like I will literally Google camera, like I'll just picture, I'll just take a picture of it to a queen and be like, Who's this? Who like I know, I know that I know this queen, but I cannot think of her name. And you'll be like, this one, it's her daughter. She is uh the family tree.

SPEAKER_04 34:44

Yeah, pull out the family tree, the Edwards family tree.

SPEAKER_03 34:50

It is the most wild thing ever, especially when you know you on a day-to-day basis. Like see him in that zone. To see you just go back to the city.

SPEAKER_04 34:58

That's obviously hard for me to drag. I love the art form, I love the expression, I love the history, I love what it means to queer culture, everything that everything that I say that y'all think is funny, I got from a drag queen. Um like truly, drag taught me so much about queer culture, the history of queer culture, and how it started, um, all came from drag. Um, and then I mean, it's just like I don't know. Like my first obsession was the Spice Girls, and because I loved um each individual character. I loved a character, and drag is just the just the evolution of that for me. Um, so tops, I guess. Um I would say uh Katya. Um I don't know that Katya is a top. Actually, I feel like Katya is a top. Not that I know for sure, but she kind of gives top to me. Maybe. Um and uh Alyssa Edwards. Um and let's see, Monet Exchange, where you like Bob. I'm like a Monet girl. Um and then the the the wildest thing is uh one of my other favorites, Kylie Sonique Love, we played a gig with this past year and met and kind of like Loki fell in love. Yeah, um, and like was just she was just in Nashville this week and we were hanging out at Lipstick Lounge. So that's kind of wild because I think she is also like mother. She is truly like one of the one of the founders of drag race, making drag race what it was, and then came back as a woman and dominated um and won her season. Um, so yeah, I would say those are probably the ones and and Sasha Valore. Sasha Valore is like my wild card. I normally like like lean into stupid drag queens, like someone who can be silly and not take themselves too seriously. Fashion it's the fashion is like the creative genius that I aspire to be when it comes to like pull pulling a look together.

SPEAKER_03 37:11

Can we talk about that for a second? Talk about what? Talk about pulling a look together.

SPEAKER_04 37:16

Oh yeah. Oh talk about the cow gay is pulling looks together. One thing we're gonna do is pull a look together.

SPEAKER_01 37:21

Oh my god. Well, so one thing that I found to be like so f interesting about the cow gaze, it was like musically, everything came together, like we said, so organically. But I think what's been the funniest part has been getting three people to figure out how to be cohesive in like looks. And so, like you're so used to being solo acts where you're like, This is what I'm gonna wear, and now all of a sudden it's like we don't have a whole chat just to make sure that everybody's like knows what we want the look to be. So you had the idea of doing cow print for this last look, right?

SPEAKER_03 37:51

Well, it was very much like is it way too just like on the nose to do cow print? And no, no, but it was wild because um uh a friend who's a stylist um reached out asking if we needed anything, and I was like, Do you have anything cow print? He shows up with the whole outfit that I wore for the first cow gay shoot, that really cool, you know, cow cow print chaps and top set. And I was just like, Y'all, I found this set. I'm like sending it to our group chat.

SPEAKER_04 38:26

Let's be clear. Hold on. Let's let's go ahead. If we're gonna like really spill the tea here. Spill it. Brooke texts Chris and I after I had not had power for 12 days and just got into my home. Ice storm. Ice storm in 2026, Kentucky barely survived. Um glad you're here with us. Yeah, it's a miracle. Text Chris and us on Friday evening. Um, our shoot was on Sunday, and Brooke said, Hey guys, I got my looks together. Here's what I'm thinking. Sends us the picture of these fucking bomb ass looks. Chris and I had just defrosted. And oh, and um and we were like, oh fuck, this was not what we had planned on wearing. I thought we were wearing t-shirts and jeans up in the gig. Um, and so immediately we're like, okay, well, we gotta level this up. How we gotta find some cowhide, we gotta get this shit together.

SPEAKER_03 39:30

This is the why you'll dis story. I know, I know. So, okay, can I just say um that, yes, first of all, I was like, hey, can we work with this? I wasn't like, I'm wearing these, figure it out, bitches. But I also knew that if I leveled us up like that, y'all would figure it out, bitches. I knew that.

SPEAKER_00 39:51

Adam wouldn't figure it out. I was just like praying, like praying for the first time in a long time.

SPEAKER_01 39:57

This is this is the good thing about us being a family band because outside of the four of us, we also have like our other people. Like our manager is our best friend, Ford Fairchilds. And then we have Lee, who's also managing as well, and that's Adam's husband, and we have this family, which is really beneficial because when these situations come up, it is all hands on deck exhibit A. Yeah. So explain to me what exactly um Adam and Chris's outfits were made out of.

SPEAKER_04 40:23

Well, I'll explain. Um, because on Saturday morning, Lee and I thought, well, I immediately called Raina, um, Raina Gurr, who is like stylist extraordinaire. Um, and she's also like one of my best friends, our best friends. Um, and she is my always my first call when I'm trying to figure out how to do something that I have no business trying to do. Um, and so I sent her your look and I was like, what can we do? And she was like, You need to go find a cowhide rug. Go to go to this place, this place, this place, this this place tomorrow, find a cowhide rug and call me. So Lee and I got our asses up. We went all over Nashville to every place that should have a cowhide rug. Not one to be seen.

SPEAKER_03 41:11

Did you go to Salvage Southeastern Salvage?

SPEAKER_04 41:14

Which normally has a wall of Calhide rugs. They had one metallic cow painted cowhide rug, and I was like, this is not gonna work. And so, like in a panic, I call Ford and I was like, okay, bitch, we have searched everywhere for a cowhide rug. I know you have a cowhide rug.

SPEAKER_02 41:35

On your floor, on your floor.

SPEAKER_04 41:37

On your floor. Being used now. And I also know that you have already said that you don't want to give us your cowhide rug, but you're gonna have to pull through for the band, girl, because we're gonna need to cut that rug up. We're gonna need to cut a rug up. Literally cut a rug. And so we did. We drove over to Ford's house, rolled that rug up off his bedroom floor, and I went straight to Raina's house. And um her and her husband, Derek, we uh spent literally six hours um cutting a rug. Cutting a rug, fringing that look like shoulder Game of Thrones inspired moment.

SPEAKER_03 42:17

It was a I mean, that thing is beautiful. You can also wear that with any outfit.

SPEAKER_04 42:22

It can it literally just slips over your shoulder, over your shoulder. So it's like easy to put on any outfit and then go ahead. And then so I'm still like naked.

SPEAKER_00 42:34

Sorry, bitch, I got mad. What are you gonna do? You're like, now we're two for three. I was like, maybe I need to do like a cow bell and just no clothes or something. But gotta give the people what they want. Still just playing. And then Ford, our manager, um, had rec, you know, had suggested, like, oh, there, like, hopefully it will be some cow hide left. He was so adamant on like we're gonna make a vest out of what's left of the rug. But then it's like literally the day of the shoot. I like the shoe. Yeah, we're there at the shoe. I show up to the shoe and I'm like, brought everything. Red name phase. Yeah. Yeah. So many things.

SPEAKER_03 43:10

Tyler Minor shows up, another, another stylist in town. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:14

And then like we used a vest that I had, and in literally like 30 minutes somehow, with some hot glue and some scissors, made a vest that's like perfect, fits perfect. Um, did chafe my nipples a little bit, but that's okay. It was worth the team.

SPEAKER_01 43:33

Yeah, wear those little tinkery ones like I have to wear. Everyone has to sacrifice something. For you, it was your nipples, you know. It's just what it is.

SPEAKER_04 43:41

Yeah, it was cold. So cold. We were outside, nipples just blazing. Headlights on.

SPEAKER_01 43:48

Bing, bing, bing. Yeah. And all of this literally went from Brooke. All of this went from Brooke being like, hey, I got this cool stuff, to when you announced the cow gaze. Like that was the picture.

SPEAKER_04 44:01

So, like, it's just how quickly the uh the American flag thing that has been going around, like those outfits, Chris's vest and my thing were lit. His was made hours. Ah, I'm being accosted by this fucking microphone stand. Um, Chris's was made literally the the hour before, and mine was the night before. But like the way it all came together looks like bitch, we've been done planning this.

SPEAKER_00 44:30

We've been done did that, and that's very drag race. It is very drag race. Yes, the design challenges, honey.

SPEAKER_01 44:37

We would eat it up. I just I never doubted you guys for a second. I was like, I don't, I that's not my world, but I just know. I just know it's gonna work itself out.

SPEAKER_03 44:46

And it did also, that's why I was like, hey, got these outfits, have fun. I knew y'all would get into the workroom and you'd figure that shit out.

SPEAKER_04 44:55

AK Ryan's studio. We went to the workroom and figured it out.

SPEAKER_01 44:59

Yeah. So speaking of drag race, speaking of turning a look, I did get this is another fun part about us being like a little family crew. I did get a little tidbit of info that you guys don't know about yet. Um, right before this podcast started. And it's really interesting that you brought up Alyssa Edwards. Okay, mama. Because because dot dot dot, she has asked the Cowgays to open for her.

SPEAKER_00 45:26

What the fuck?

SPEAKER_01 45:29

When she comes through Nashville.

SPEAKER_00 45:30

Oh my god. What like the us?

SPEAKER_01 45:34

Like you guys. Guys, the band got announced a week ago. There you go. And you will be opening up for Alyssa.

SPEAKER_03 45:43

Oh my god, we're gonna be best friends on Alyssa!

SPEAKER_04 45:48

We have to get her to teach us the Yeah, I can I got it, so y'all are gonna have to look.

SPEAKER_03 45:55

You've been teaching our son, our 15-month-old son how to do it.

SPEAKER_04 46:01

I don't know what to do for you. Let him teach you. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 46:05

Oh my god, that's so exciting. What is this happening? I'm pumped that I got to be the one to tell you guys. Yeah, wow. Um, I believe it's in May. May 20th. So, you guys, this is happening in real time.

unknown 46:16

Hang on.

SPEAKER_01 46:17

We are getting the actual date here. Yeah. So on May 20th at Marathon Music Works, you guys will be opening up for Alyssa Edwards.

SPEAKER_02 46:27

So my God!

SPEAKER_01 46:31

That's so fun. So remember how you guys were just like three gays drunkenly drinking in or drinking, drunkenly singing in a staircase. Yeah. Here we are, one weekend.

SPEAKER_03 46:42

We're still gonna be just three gays drunkenly singing.

SPEAKER_04 46:46

Singing at Marathon Music Ward is coming up for Alyssa Edwards. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. That's so fun. I'm so proud of you guys.

SPEAKER_01 46:54

We love you, Alyssa. We can't play. We can't play. Oh, wait forever. Also, I love that like we knew Alyssa was your girl, but I was like, oh my gosh, this is just gonna be perfect. Because I guarantee you Adam Mack will be talking about Alyssa Edwards.

SPEAKER_04 47:07

Speaking of sound, people who are known for sound bites, like that is Alyssa Edwards. Like, she is maybe one of the most funny, irreverent, off the wall, memeable. Yes. Memeable. Truly, I am so excited. That is the best news ever.

SPEAKER_01 47:24

So we're gonna have to have a little toast to Alyssa after this or or during this.

SPEAKER_04 47:29

Cheers! Alyssa Edwards, always and forever. Cheers to the queers.

SPEAKER_01 47:35

See you soon, Queen. Well, we I think we have just a little bit of time left.

SPEAKER_04 47:41

Okay. What do you got for?

SPEAKER_01 47:43

Last question for you guys is you ready? So what what do you want? This came about organically. But what now that it's become official and now that this is happening and it's popping off quickly, what's your goal for the cowgays? What do you guys hope to do for other people, do for yourselves? Not all at once.

SPEAKER_00 48:12

Just a casual little yeah, light question. What do you do with your art?

SPEAKER_01 48:17

I like to put you guys on the spot.

SPEAKER_00 48:19

I immediately thought though, so like as we all in our solo careers have experienced, unfortunately, um, and even if you're not a country artist, but people in general have experienced that the genre of country has this reputation of not being not being welcome to everybody, not being inclusive of everybody. And of course that's the case when like you just look at who's charting on country radio and you only see cis, white, straight men. Um, so my goal, one of my top goals for us, is to just change that and burst that door down with not just like sneak in a little sneaky and like, oh my god, they're queer and like but they don't talk about it, so we can accept that.

SPEAKER_05 49:08

They can be palpable.

SPEAKER_00 49:10

Yes, yeah, right.

SPEAKER_02 49:14

Our name is the cow gate.

SPEAKER_00 49:16

Yeah, you're not hiding nothing. Yeah, but uh really to like and more for the like fans than any anything else. Not even for like I mean, you know, if it opens some doors for people pursuing country in the future, awesome. But more for the fans, it's really breaks my heart that so many people like us grew up loving country music until they felt unwelcome by it. And we're trying to reclaim that and open that door, um, those doors for people. And invite people back into country music who felt like they didn't belong. Yes, you belong, honeys. You belong, you're a cow gay.

SPEAKER_03 49:52

You guys, country music is so gay and it is so camp. Yes. I mean, the outfits, yeah, the western wear. Yes, that's the gayest shit I've ever seen. The tight pants, rhymes, rhymes, fringe, yeah, honey, twirling and fringe, gay as fuck. It's literally a drag race episode. Yes. Um, and I think that what is so cool about the cowgays, right? And us like meeting each other and learning each other's stories and becoming best friends is that for me, I know that I felt so alone. Like I felt I like I was the only Southern person that grew up, you know, in the church on the Bible that, you know, was gay, and I was like on this little island by myself. And then I started meeting other queer people, and I realized that like 99% of queer people also grew up in the church, also grew up believing that who we are was a sin. And having to deconstruct that and heal from that and learn from that and become, you know, learn to love themselves in order to become who they are right now. And I think that that's such a beautiful shared journey that we all have as the cowgays. And I think that it's so important to just be ourselves and to continue to share our stories and just let these people know who are growing up in these small towns or you know, who grew up, you know, super, super religious that there is a space for you here and we will make sure of it. You know? Totally. Like we have your back. We are not going anywhere.

SPEAKER_04 51:41

We are gonna make music forever for people like us and stand in the face of adversity. Yes, because we can together. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 51:51

Yeah, and I feel like you guys are stronger together in a way, too. Obviously, your solo crews are all incredible and all amazing, and you guys say so many cool things individually, but I think there is like a power in numbers where you're like the three of us walking in, like, ain't nobody gonna mess us. Right. And I I think another thing from kind of an outside perspective looking in, what I love about the three of you guys is that yeah, you're besties, you have so much in common. But what I love, and I don't want to give away too much on like the cool music that you've written about kind of your different roles and everything, but that like you all are um have different looks and have different stories. Like, you know, it's like Chris was like is slash was like more of an athlete. We've like got drag queen out of Mac over here, and then like we got a little like cute little blonde Barbie doll, like you know, it's just obviously I'm not trying to we're more than a pretty thigh spiritual. I know you are, honey. Like, I mean, it's just cute because I'm like on paper, you know, you guys are so different, so different, and it's cool that anyone that looks at you guys can see themselves in one of the three of you, you know. So, as a band, one of the three of you is gonna probably represent a majority of people that are gonna be listening to you guys or coming to your shows.

SPEAKER_03 52:58

So unless you're a butch lesbian and then we have Chris.

SPEAKER_00 53:04

I did change my car battery today. That was and I literally thought of y'all.

SPEAKER_01 53:08

Okay, so like just lesbians are representing, mask lesbians are representing, so we're set, and I just want to have fun.

SPEAKER_04 53:16

What I want for the Calgays is just to have fun. I love that. Which honestly, it sounds like so silly, but that is that is what I try to bring to every situation. Like, we are here to have fun, and if this is not fun, then why are we doing it? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 53:32

Well, it's also like we all we need that as a community right now, you know, with everything that's going on with this administration and the laws that are trying to be, you know, put into place and our marriage is always being on the damn docket, you know. Like we need that place playfulness, yeah. We need the playfulness, we need the escapism, yeah, and we need just a safe place to feel like us. And I hope that no matter where we are, no matter what show we're playing, even if people are just sitting in their rooms watching the cow gays, they feel that like sense of community and that sense of safety. Like, I am not the only one on an island. I am one of thousands, probably hundreds of thousands that grew up this way and are this way, and this is who I am, and you are not alone, and we're all in this together, kind of a thing.

SPEAKER_01 54:23

Well, and I know that this is just the beginning for the cow gays. Like, what's kind of fun about us doing I know, I know, but I mean, like, just as far as like what's to come with you guys. Like, I like it's just fun doing this, like sitting down. I know we're gonna look back and be like We had no idea.

SPEAKER_03 54:40

This is just the beginning, you know, but you have no idea. This is the diary of the cow gay.

SPEAKER_05 54:46

Yes! Clip that actually clip that.

SPEAKER_01 54:52

So we we've been talking about how much has blown up in like six days and how you guys did your your cute cow print outfit in front of your American flag. And we did just find out um, what, a few days ago that you guys got asked to do the national anthem. Like, guys, it's soon. Like they were pride night night in the heat of heated rivalry.

SPEAKER_04 55:15

We've been in our heated rival rivalry game changers bags for the past three weeks, and then we get asked to come and sing the national anthem at the Preds Pride Night game.

SPEAKER_01 55:24

It's awesome because also, like, I think you've done um the national anthem for the Preds. I think you have as well, Adam. And so, but for this year, for it to be heated rivalry year, yes, and then you guys get asked the year of gay hockey year. Guys, it's just happened so fast.

SPEAKER_03 55:40

Yeah, it's wild. Yeah, it's also wild because, like, you know, none of us have ever done the national anthem as a trio.

SPEAKER_04 55:49

Which it's literally the hardest song on the planet to sing. And then we said, Hey, you two who don't really fuck with harmonies too well, um, let's do a harmonized uh national anthem. We looked at Chris and said, Can we?

SPEAKER_05 56:04

Do we know how can you tell me? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 56:07

I think our biggest challenge is gonna be no offense, but you remembering the words.

SPEAKER_01 56:16

Are we even friends? Like, literally.

SPEAKER_04 56:19

No, we do nobody read you like your sister. That's right.

SPEAKER_01 56:22

Well, I feel like when we talk about the anthem, like I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you just see out and be like, I'm scared. I'm scared. You're gonna be amazing.

SPEAKER_04 56:30

It's a scary thing to do. It's like written in fucking uh the weirdest way, like uh so many words that you don't use in regular life. Um, yesterday we're seeing for the first time yesterday.

SPEAKER_00 56:47

And Adam Adam's saying, what so proudly we wailed. We were wailing.

SPEAKER_02 56:57

We were wailing. But uh, I don't know how proud it was.

unknown 57:02

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_04 57:03

So that's so so glad that Chris was out in the universe, and I'm never gonna forgive him for it. If I mess up, it's gonna be 100% your fault.

SPEAKER_01 57:13

Now okay, but you there's three of you. So to me, I'm like, doesn't it feel easier?

SPEAKER_03 57:19

It doesn't matter if we're saying hailed and he's saying wailed though. Two out of the way.

SPEAKER_04 57:23

You know what I'm saying is like for me. I never did that. I mean, I did that yesterday, but I've never done that before.

SPEAKER_03 57:29

You never done did that before.

SPEAKER_04 57:30

I've never been done, had done been did that ever.

SPEAKER_01 57:35

When I watch someone do the anthem solo, in my head, I'm like, what if they mess up? Uh-oh. Then they're just like screwed. But at least you got two people. So, you know, if you mess up, you just kind of you just come back in. You have three of you. That's what's cool.

SPEAKER_03 57:50

But if he starts wailing out, shit. We're gonna we're literally gonna study it like you study this.

SPEAKER_04 57:58

Because y'all are gonna give me fucking hives or something. Um I didn't have real, I didn't have any real issues or um nerves, and now y'all have placed something in my spirit. Where's the stage, Bella? We need the stage. Well, we need all of your witchcraft. Yeah, we rebuke his comments. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 58:23

So now you guys have experienced the first fight of the cow gays. Welcome. You get to see it on camera. The first real altercation between the two boys.

SPEAKER_00 58:32

It's gonna be so good, and it's gonna make me feel so proud to be American for a little bit.

SPEAKER_03 58:37

Yeah, briefly. Just for like a minute, a minute and a half there. That'll be great. March 26th. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 58:43

No, oh yeah. Yeah, March 26th. I hope they kiss at the end of the game.

SPEAKER_04 58:48

Yeah, I hope their two people fall in love during the game and it they're rivals and it's hated at the end of the match, they just fucking go for it.

SPEAKER_00 58:59

And then we start singing like uh what's that song?

SPEAKER_04 59:03

Uh what's the song? All the things you said, all the things you said, running through my head, running through my head, running through my head.

SPEAKER_03 59:13

And that's how that's gonna go. Okay, so speaking of tattoo, uh-huh. T A T U. Okay. That sings that song. T ATU. Yeah, I remember being in third grade and the Spice Girls were on um MTV, and then Tattoo came on after all the things she said. And I was like, they're lesbians.

SPEAKER_04 59:33

And did you secretly?

SPEAKER_03 59:35

Yes, I was obsessed with that so. And like, did if the spice girls weren't already enough of a gay awakening for me, then tattoo comes on after them, and I'm literally like, oh my god, I'm so gay. And then I'm like, I'm not allowed to be gay, I'm a Christian.

SPEAKER_04 59:48

I'm not gay, I'm a Christian.

SPEAKER_03 59:50

Yeah, but I'm a cheerleader.

SPEAKER_04 59:52

Isn't it weird that spice girls are a gay awakening for you, but then spice girls are also a gay awakening for us in a different way. That's like, um, why do I want Barbie dolls of the Spice Girls? I'm must be gay.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:05

That is so we can also share a um another gay awakening in the Power Rangers, actually.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:11

Yes, the red Power Ranger.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:14

Which is also funny because like you can't for me for you, but you like can't see their face or anything.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:19

It's an energy, it's just a feeling. No, they they don't they are always in their outfits. Yeah, when they're at school, and yeah, they're not a Power Ranger.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:29

I was growing up about Power Rangers. I just thought that they were covered in what did you? I just thought like I'm picturing like the cartoon where they were like there was never a cartoon power rangers.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:37

They were real, they were real Power Rangers. Okay, I'm offended.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:40

I thought there was. There wasn't a cartoon.

unknown 1:00:42

No.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:43

Anyway. What did you watch? I just have to know. Not not the for the pod, but also what was your gay awakening? Yeah, guys, I am Barbara Walters. Hey, flip it and reverse it, honey.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:54

No. Um I don't know what my gay awakening was, being in my 20s.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:00

Oh my god, I forget. Yeah, I'm like, Malate gay. She didn't know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:05

Literally before we got married, I kept on asking, like, are you sure? And then we would make out and I would be like, Yeah, she's sure.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:12

I do, I do remember being in college and being like, and watching the Victor Victoria's Secret Fashion Show with like my sorority sisters and being like, These girls are gorgeous, but then all of my friends were like, they're so hot, my straight friends. And so and so I was like, Cool, we're all straight. We all think that they're hot. Like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:30

And then you ever got Fanny flutters from something that was I can't say I did.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:36

I know, I know, I know.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:38

I know that's why I always question female experience and had a little tickle.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:44

Tickle. What about Titanic? No movies.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:47

No, Kate Winslet? I don't know. I just remember being like, that's the first time I've seen somebody naked on screen, but I don't think. No. Sorry guys.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:56

Like I'm confused.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:59

I'm just double checking on my gayness now that we've been married, been together for 10 years.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:03

I'm questioning it over here, too. No, I think that's what's so funny though. It's like I think that if you saw, if people saw Hillary and I, and they were like, who's gayer? People would be like, Hillary. Yeah. Like, just just because Brooke's so femme.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:18

Brooke's so femme.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:19

I mean, look at that gun.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:21

You know? Just because, you know, she's so femme, and I'm like waiting on a woman. Like, I just am like not. I'm a chapstick lesbian. She's a chapstick. I'm like a full-on lip light. Right. So I think people would think that I was gayer, but I'm definitely gayer.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:36

Okay, well, we've got a lot more to talk about.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:38

We do, we do. Um, so this is our first podcast episode where we've invited guests on. The Hello Hoovers have been just us two. And I gotta say that this feels really good. And this is just the first time we have the Cowgays on. Obviously, you'll be on many more times, but thank you for being our first guests.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:01

So honored. Honored to be the first honored to be your first.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:04

Oh, yeah. It's like I'm a guest on my own podcast. I know.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:08

You're kind of like in between.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:10

Yeah, like over here on my podcast. Not like over here, but over there. Yeah. It's great. I play for both teams, except I don't heard it. You're first. Just play for this team. That's all right. But we're all on the same team too.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:23

But um, thank you for being our guests, guys. We are honored to be your first guest.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:28

I love how what we're gonna do after this is take the mics away and just do exactly what we've been doing. That's too. But do exactly what we've been doing already. Well, all that's to say, you guys are amazing. I love you so much. Thank you for coming on with us. Thank you, Hoopers.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:43

Hello, Hoovers.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:44

Yellow, Hoopers. Thank you for coming.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:47

Thank you for coming on the pod. Yeah. Thanks for having us.