How to Turn Your Pain into Purpose - Victoria Milam

How to Turn Your Pain into Purpose - Victoria Milam

 Have you experienced loss, heartbreak, abuse, rejection, or disappointment? Your pain doesn't have to define your future—it can become the very foundation of your purpose.

In this heartfelt episode, Constance sits down with Victoria Milam, whose inspiring journey is a beautiful reminder that healing is possible. Victoria openly shares how she navigated loss, oppression, abuse, and the long road back to trusting herself again. Through her story, you'll discover that no matter where you've been, there is hope, healing, and a greater purpose waiting for you.

Victoria is the founder and heart behind Women Up, (Home - Women Up) where she lovingly helps women reconnect with themselves through embodied healing, yoga, community, and compassionate support. As a healthcare professional, yoga teacher, and advocate, she has dedicated her life to helping women rise above their past and embrace the life they were created to live.

A Special Invitation

Victoria is also hosting her transformational Journey to Self Retreat in the beautiful country of Jamaica. This life-changing experience is designed to help you slow down, heal, reconnect with your authentic self, and step boldly into your next chapter.

If your heart is ready for renewal, this retreat could be exactly what you've been looking for.

Reserve your spot today: Journey to Self – Women Up Journey to Self - Women Up

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Welcome to the Divine Manifestation Pathway Podcast, where we explore the power of faith, mindset, and manifestation to help you create the life you were designed to live. Your host, Constance Arnold, is a renowned global podcaster, author, and spiritual teacher. And together, we'll learn how to shift our thinking, align with divine guidance, and intentionally create a life of abundance, purpose, and joy. So take a deep breath, get present, and let's step into the pathway of divine manifestation.

SPEAKER_01 0:41

Well, hello everyone, and welcome to the Divine Manifestation Pathway, a podcast with George Truly, Constance Arnold. So grateful, so thankful, so excited that you made a decision to join me today. And guess what? I believe that it was not an accident that actually the Spirit of God has attracted you here so that you can receive that one download, hear that one word, receive that one insight that you've been praying about, thinking about, searching for, that will keep moving you in your purpose and your destiny. Well, how is everybody doing today? I tell you what, in the ATL, I'm gonna use my southern accent, everybody. It is hot, y'all. It is summertime, but I am really, really grateful. Well, I want to thank all of you for uh following me, sending me your emails. You know, it really helps me to see where you are. I love hearing about all of the manifestations, all of the shifts, all of the changes. I had one lady tell me, she said, I've been following you for 15 years. She found me on YouTube. She uh she I think she used to listen to me on Tune In. So you guys know that you can listen to me on iTunes, our heart, uh, what else? Uh Apple Podcasts, Spotify. Wherever you uh get your podcast, that's where you can find me. And of course, my social media is always the design manifestation pathway. TikTok, uh, Instagram, Facebook, YouTube. So once or twice a week I go live because I want to connect with you and answer your questions first. And you know, July 1st, I am collaborating with the great Peter Adams and Justin Perry, and we are beginning the online manifestation community. We're on school, that's S-K-O-O-L, and we're gonna be teaching you about manifestation, uh, spirituality. My portion is gonna be on love, uh, spirituality, and manifestation. So just go to school S K-O-O-L and type in the manifestors. I think that is it. Of course, you can get my books uh on Amazon, how to attract and manifest genuine love and the secrets of success. So everybody, you know, everybody who comes on my show, it's it's it's like a divine direction from the spirit. I was just telling my guest today, I I have probably done 1,000 plus podcasts. And so today, when I hit record, my intention is to bring to you the person, the subject, the idea, the topic that I feel God has really led me to. And today is no exception. So I want you to take a deep breath in. Let it out. We know breath means in spirit. So my very special guest today is uh Miss Victoria, all the way from one of the Carolinas, South Carolina. And uh, she's gonna be sharing. She's one of my clients. She's so courageous. Not only is she beautiful, but she's so courageous. She's gonna be sharing about you can hear your life and turn your pain into purpose. And uh hi Victoria, how you doing?

SPEAKER_02 4:36

Hello, Constance. I'm fabulous.

SPEAKER_01 4:39

Good, good. And the spirit led me to ask Victoria if she would share her story. So, you know, it's a lot different when I teach you universal principles and spirituality, but when you actually can hear the story, the journey, the unfolding of someone else, then it is amazing. It will inspire you, it will increase your faith and motivate you. And so during one of our sessions, I just received that download. I said, Well, Miss Victoria, uh, I call her the Queen. I said, Are you open to coming on and sharing your story? And she said, Yes. So, Victoria, thank you for your courage. And I'm gonna say to you, you can share at the level that you feel comfortable. What city are you in?

SPEAKER_02 5:37

I am in Spartanburg, South Carolina. It's close to Greenville, close to Charlotte, North Carolina. We're right there at the state line.

SPEAKER_01 5:47

Okay, so you can heal your life. Is that possible? I want you to just share the beginnings of why you came to me for coaching, what was your life like, what was happening in your life, all of the above.

SPEAKER_02 6:04

Okay, all right, so we'll dive right in.

SPEAKER_01 6:08

Um, I think that I was, you know, I don't know if we had the chance to go into too much detail, but in as much detail we got plenty of time, okay, whatever you feel comfortable with.

SPEAKER_02 6:23

All right, so um, in trying to prepare for this, it came to me that you know it's not really something that um you can prepare yourself for, you know, fully. You can't script this, you I mean, you can't rehearse. Um, so much of this stuff is raw and and deeply significant on a spiritual level, that in speaking about it, you never know what's gonna come up, you know. Um, but I will say, whenever I was just meditating on, you know, speaking today and talking about where I began, I don't even remember that person. I don't know that person. I she's so much different now. Absolutely. So I had to think really hard about it, and I was like astounded at where I started. I, you know, remember being uh an avid listener on your podcast, and it uh it was like clockwork, you know. I knew exactly when you you were recording. I think you did Sundays, I did, and there'd be a new one coming out the following week, and I could listen to it on my way to work. I I listened to back to back to back. And that was almost two years, and I began, you know, applying the principles as best I could, understanding, you know, more than just the law of attraction, you know, and and quantum principles overall. I think that um the law of expectation, you know, these were things that you touched on, and it fascinated me. And um remembering and applying that concept that that this is an inside job, you know, that your thoughts are are very significant in your external circumstances, and I mean that alone took me a year to really grasp and explore on my own. And I knew that you did coaching, I knew that you were um, I didn't believe that I was I was worthy. I knew the caliber of client, you know, that you typically worked with was not really like me. I just didn't believe that I was worthy, point blank. And one day, I think it was probably around the holidays, you were running a special. And I thought, that's that's not for me. Surely that's not for me. And then something just pulled me and said, That's for you. You need to reach out. So I did, it's like my fingers were were not even my fingers that they were just led to go to your website. I went exactly where I needed to go. I didn't look at anything else except for coaching, and I reached out to you and you set up a call and you said, This may or may not, let's see if it's a fit. And um, I don't even know if you had space at the time, but you took me on, and I'm so glad you did.

SPEAKER_01 9:56

Well, let me tell you why I took you on, because I my prayer is God only send to me people who I'm divinely connected with. Uh, only send to me people so that I will have a knowing on the inside of me, even though I'm credential with all of my stuff over the last 30 years. I believe that uh when you're on your pathway, that God designates certain people to help you, to lead you, to guide you. Because my my intention is to help you to heal and then to remind you of who you are in God. And I knew that when you call me, there was a lot of uh uh of a shame, you know, because we're taught shame. Why can't you get your own stuff together? We're taught to be independent, but shame says there's something wrong with you. Guilt said you did something, uh uh you did something wrong. So with you, I knew it was a design connection. And and I said, Victoria, this is what I tell all of my clients. If you're willing to do the inner work, you won't recognize your life at the end of the year. And that's what I said to you. And you were so open. And so, and let me just say this about me for people. Y'all know that I still get coaching once a week, every Saturday at 11 a.m. Eastern Standard Time. Every successful person has a coach, like Victoria. I felt shame. I thought I could do it by myself. I thought I had it all together decades ago. But your choices, your patterns, and your behaviors are indicators of what's going on on the inside of you. So you call and we connected. So what was going on on the inside of you, Miss Victoria?

SPEAKER_02 12:04

Well, you know, I came ready to manifest. I was ready to make my hopes and dreams happen, and that's the transformation I thought that I was going, I was in for. But I learned quickly, probably within the first or second session, maybe the third, that there was there was some work involved and there were some obstacles that were invisible to me, but very apparent to you that you were easily able to identify. And um, if I were to start making things more things happen, you know, checking off my list of hopes and dreams from that place, I don't think it would have been good. I I would be moving from a broken, unhealed place. So that healing was something that you identified, it was not something that I was expecting at all. I was expecting manifestation and I'm gonna think things into existence. I'm gonna have an LLC and you know, achieve, achieve, achieve. And that's what my mindset was. I was in performance mode, I was in achieve mode, I was so busy, busy, busy, busy doing all kinds of stuff. I was working full-time at the uh in the healthcare system. I was taking on different volunteer activities. I'm a yoga instructor, I was teaching yoga three days a week. I um have a daughter that I was very I don't I was disconnected as a mother. I would not I was I wouldn't allow myself to sit down in the floor and play with my daughter. I didn't think that that was good enough. I thought I needed to be productive and I needed to earn and I needed to perform. Um I was in a, you know, what we ended up identifying as, you know, I guess clinically it would be considered codependence. Very, very codependent patterns were apparent. Um, and you know, it was interesting because it's not anything that Constance had to call out, it's these are things that we came to. It's like we would walk down one path, one scenario, one day, how my day went, and I would come to the realization that I wasn't really operating from a place of I would like to do this. I this aligns with who I am, this is my desire. It was always about pleasing somebody else in my life, whether it was ex-husband, mother-in-law, boss, my mother. There were, of course, a lot of family systems issues um that Constance was very, very gentle with. It was like, I think at one point, um, you know, we talked about it being sort of like this knot that that you have to untie and you have to do so very gently. And you know, it takes it takes a very skilled individual to be able to um guide you through that without a lot of emotional turmoil because it's it's a very tender thing. We're talking about the people who have who you've trusted, who you've, you know, whether it's who I married or who I grew up with, you know, these are all I know. And um, we definitely had to work through some of that in order to identify what what's been weighing me down and maybe um preventing me from living a life beyond my wildest dreams.

SPEAKER_01 16:12

So you know that's so true. And this Victoria, she came with all of her PowerPoint presentations, all of her big dreams and goals, and I just stuck it to myself and I said to myself, hold on, girlfriend, that's not where we're starting. We're gonna start with you because you are the business. And so in all of our lives, Victoria there, we're not here to blame anybody because from the age of zero to seven, our identity is formed. And then from seven to fourteen, whatever we have observed and or experienced really begins to form us. So when you came, Victoria, you came with a lot of those issues, a lot of those family systems. And my position was just too deadly, because it's it's it's not an easy thing to even acknowledge. But I said to her, if you will heal your soul, what is your soul, your past, your memories, your stuff, your dysfunction, your subconscious mind. I said, when you heal your soul, all of your business, all of your dreams, all of your aspirations will automatically begin to unfold because we're at least we're releasing those old patterns, old behaviors, old family systems, old um codependency issues so that we can be whole. You did that bravely and courageously. I'm not saying it was easy, but you stepped into that uh courageously and boldly because you had a burning desire for healing.

SPEAKER_02 17:56

Right. Um it was, you know, I remember it being challenging. I remember it initially not not being as forthcoming, you know, or as honest with myself. Um and there were things that like I said, they were they became invisible to me and acceptable. And the whole time, my behavior and my thoughts, those thoughts that are so precious and so important, and my emotions and my frequency were being impacted by these things, by this weight, by this, you know, it's almost like a poison, you know. And you you have to address it. So the truth, you know, the truth is, and I remember the day that that this all broke, and I called you, and I don't know a lot of coaches that that would be able to jump in in that scenario because I think that I I thought that it would blindside you, you know, and I verbally for the first time in my life acknowledged that I I was an adult child of an alcoholic. I was um I I had abandonment issues. Yes, I was in an abusive marriage that I pretended was amazing, and um I had I had some serious stuff that I needed to work through. It was a lot bigger than what I I'd started with, you know, um as far as my list of things to get done with constants.

SPEAKER_01 19:59

I remember that call. And I don't normally take calls, but I know if if a certain client calls me and I'm available, I know that I need to take that call.

SPEAKER_02 20:14

Right. It was it was a very special day, and I was it was heavy, and it seemed like everything happened at once. Um, it was powerful, but that was a shift. Yes, it was a shift, acknowledging the truth, and the truth became so very important in this whole thing. It came, it became critical in understanding who I am, what is my truth, whether it's ugly or it's beautiful. I need to understand it, and that is how I began to heal with Constance. The truth was all of those those terrible things that I just stated. We don't have to run through that again. You can run it back if you want to, but the truth was I don't I didn't have boundaries, I didn't understand that it's okay to say no. I didn't understand that other people's issues are not my responsibility. I didn't understand that someone's response to me honoring myself, to me setting a boundary, to me having a desire, you know, to do something wonderful, to do something great, their opinions and their responses are none of my business. I didn't understand that. I I took those kinds of things very personally. Um I expected applause. And praise and love where it was not appropriate to expect those things. I began to work through that. I, you know, Constance again, codependence was a very heavy theme in my situation, and she immediately um encouraged me to attend uh support groups.

SPEAKER_01 22:28

I worked through how did you feel about how did you feel about going to support groups?

SPEAKER_02 22:34

Well, I remember at first, you know, coming back, reporting back to you, and say, you know, my eyes were rolling a little bit, and I'm like, these people. But it is so powerful. There's something very powerful about a group, right? I learned that from Constance. Very powerful to hear that you're not alone, to hear that there are some people who deal with some very, very tough things, and their responses, you know, for what one reason or another are also codependent. And this is how they're it that is hindering them, and you're not alone. Um, and there are tools, you know, that that they provide, and there's you know, steps and that kind of thing. Um, there's an entire program, there's an entire network of individuals that come together as a collective to heal, and that's beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 23:31

You know, it it is, and um the interesting thing clinically, what you can get in in a support group culminated or coupled with coaching, you got the dynamic duo there. And and I I would say 49% of my clients are alpha males from all over the world. And if I ask them to go in a support group, they're just like, oh my god, oh no, constant. You know, but even then, once they find the right group, uh male clients, because men carry so much, and there's not a safe place for them to go. Sometimes they can go into a group anonymously, not have their camera on. And it begins to bring such healing to them. And uh I saw you reluctantly at first, uh, but very diligently, very consistently because uh she was ready for change. She was tired of her old behavior. She wanted to reprogram her subconscious, change self dysfunctional family systems. So she committed to herself. That was her journey. It didn't happen overnight, but it happened.

SPEAKER_02 24:49

Yes. Um, so that was very important. That accountability um and you know, reluctantly attending these. I mean, it was like, I want you to go, you need to go two days a week. All right, we'll we'll, you know, dial it back one one day a week. And I'm like, oh, you know, why do I have to do this? But it was helpful. And I took it, I started to take it very, very seriously. You know, I'm I'm walking off time on my calendar regularly. I'm you know, taking my my lunch hour and I'm making sure I get on that call with that support group, and they make it very easy, you know. Um, but that was that was pivotal. Um, I think that the one of the most significant um things that that Constance was sure to address was the bond with my daughter. And even if it was just 15 minutes, she said you need to get down in the floor and you need to play. Um, I was so busy. I thought I needed to do this and do that, and I had my priorities messed up whenever it came to that. And she knew how how critical and uh important that was. And not, you know, of course, my daughter needs that connection. We needed to foster that bond, and um it was I I can't stress enough how important that is for a child, um, you know, and ultimately I think that I was just living out what I knew, but the shame and the guilt that I carried before we worked through that, corrected that. I'm not sure what what we should call it, but the the guilt and the shame were so heavy, those are such low frequencies, and it was just as simple as 15 minutes a day with a Barbie pretending with my daughter or dancing around the living room, you know, and the shame and the guilt disappeared.

SPEAKER_01 27:10

Yeah, and what what happened there? You did the best you could with what was shown to you in your childhood. So, in your way, busy providing for her, etc. But it was you taking the time to connect with her, to be intimate with her. And with Victoria, I said there is no time because anytime you are vulnerable and anytime you hear your truth, time has to take a backseat. And so now who you are so deeply connected with your daughter. You two are almost emerald inseparable. And what did Victoria do do? She just reprogrammed herself, and all we're doing is learn relearning and then reprogramming different behaviors. We earn we unlearn the old she learned the new. So amazing.

SPEAKER_02 28:06

Yes, and I think that so many beautiful things blossomed from that.

SPEAKER_01 28:11

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 28:12

That place of true love and connection, and you know that that powerful maternal um energy, that powerful feminine energy, you know. It was it was I love it. It's it's my favorite thing. I love our bond. It it's who I am, you know. This is something that I've never felt more like myself than than when I'm with my daughter, and I'm demonstrating to her how you know how to be, how to grow, and and nudging her along and nurturing, you know. Um so here I was achiever, and um I'm I need to show up and bend over backwards for all these other people. My you know, my boss, my um colleagues, other family members, and here's my daughter, and she just wants to play. So there's nothing else but to play.

SPEAKER_01 29:16

And so one thing that that Victoria learned was we're not being a human doing, we're being a human being, authentically who she is right now with all of her imperfections. Who is it that says that we and with all of my imperfections? Somebody said that we are perfectly imperfect. And so here you are connected with your daughter, emers, intimate with, which is one of the most powerful forms of being. And that flowed over into loving yourself, dispelling perfection, accepting that who you are without any performance is enough. I love it.

SPEAKER_02 30:07

So I, you know, from there, those were two big corrections, addressing that guilt and that shame as as a mother, and um making sure that we we've programmed you know that codependence. Um you know, there there really is no graduation whenever it comes to codependence. That's something that I learned. But with, you know, and having a coach and and you know, Constance's help and her assessment, um, you know, she can spot pretty quickly if something is codependent and and help me bring myself out of it. It's you know, just a grounding presence. So it's a maybe a little bit different. I'm not sure how many people go through the program um with uh somebody as awesome as Constance in their corner, but you can't like you can't lose. Um I felt extra, I felt very victorious. I felt like I understood myself so much better once we got through that. And you know, then working on those, those working on ensuring that I have healthy and loving relationships and sound approaches that that make sense with Constance in detail, I believe, you know, have contributed to the transformation and the shifts that took place. And some of it, you know, it's not an overnight thing, but some of it felt like, okay, we're gonna move very slowly through this, and then boom, next thing you know, I'm walking through New York City and I'm, you know, moving and shaking with some really amazing individuals, and I'm expressing myself, and I'm on runways, and I'm you know, in cafes, you know, and Cafe Milano and the Russian tea room, and I'm taking a black car from Brooklyn to Manhattan, and Constance is like, go, go, go, you know, and it was just like you know, I was I was so isolated and rigid and I mean stuck. I I you know it almost felt like I had placed some some pretty heavy limits on who I could be and what I could become and what I could experience um just just due to my environment. There were so many limits that again probably had to do with those invisible obstacles, um, those blind spots, you know, those heavy issues.

SPEAKER_01 33:04

Um let me inject something here. You know, you're so right, uh Victoria, because when she sent me pictures from New York, I'm like, is that is that I saw the freedom, I saw healing, I saw I know who I am, I felt I've healed my soul, I saw the the couple of years of inner work that she had done, and I wept because I said, thank you, Father, because she had done with that. It don't take long, y'all. She had done the inner work, moving away from an abusive relationship, from not setting boundaries, from extreme codependency, from dysfunctional family system, uh, from being perfect, from being performance and doing. And now she's just being healed and hoe. She was like a little girl exploring the universe. I love it.

SPEAKER_02 34:17

Yeah, there was, you know, and this is something that I know it it upsets uh anybody who cares about me, but there, you know, during my marriage, I couldn't, I I didn't go anywhere. There was no exploring, there was no experiencing, there was um a lot of control. And if I did go anywhere, um you know, my ex would be the one to to ultimately decide where that would be. And it was never I don't know if anybody else is familiar with the only beach that we really have here, Myrtle Beach, but that's that was the only place I'd seen.

SPEAKER_01 35:00

Right. Um so are you saying that you didn't go anywhere and you couldn't go anywhere by yourself? Like if you wanted to go to the beach, you couldn't just drive over there by yourself.

SPEAKER_02 35:11

Right.

SPEAKER_01 35:12

Yeah. So you see why I saw freedom in the pictures when I saw you by yourself in Manhattan in your blue jeans. I'm like, whoa, she's healed and she's free.

SPEAKER_02 35:30

Yeah, and none of that that heaviness was there anymore. It's like we work through every bit of it, you know, and there are there, you know, I think that coaching and and counseling, you know, which Constance is um a triple threat whenever it comes to this kind of stuff, at least. Um I'm always going to want that, um, because I know how helpful it is, and I know, and I it's just me honoring myself and who I am. And I think that that's something that in a weird way, you know, these these challenges and the roots, even whenever they're damaged, we it's it can be a little bit of a struggle to let them go to release. Um, and there's something, you know, there's honor there, honoring the pain that you've been through. And and then, you know, seeing the power that exists there and those experiences that that could make you hard, could make you bitter, angry, resentful, they could also serve to make you, you know, an expert on a lot of this stuff, and somebody who can share wisdom and and maybe help another, inspire another, you know. If I made it through what I made it through, others can too. And it's that's why it's so important to acknowledge and speak the truth. I remember saying, Constance, I will stand on Main Street with a poster board with all of my truth. I want to stand on the table at Thanksgiving and tell everybody the truth about who I am and what I've experienced, and that I'm not going to let it hold me back anymore.

SPEAKER_01 37:43

I love that. And you said you said it so eloquently. When you choose to heal your soul yourself, it's really deep self-love. It's really valuing yourself. So here you are, it makes me want to cry first. So here you are with moving through all of that hurt pain and healing, healed. And from that healing place, uh, you became always gotta take your pain and turn it into your purpose andor passion. So from that place, you now have a passion and a purpose to help women. Is it women or people? Period. Tell us about your foundation.

SPEAKER_02 38:29

So I I started a foundation and we're building. Um it's called Women Up Foundation. It's a 501c3 nonprofit. Um it's a calling that I can't walk away from. I explored so many different things. Whenever I found freedom, I explored, I explored so many different things. I signed as a model. Um, I have traveled the world, and I'm, you know, there was so much to explore, but there's something, and it wasn't heavy, it was magnetic. It was like a seed that that I didn't have a choice, it was blooming, it was sprouting. And I was like, you know, oh, I have this, I have to look into this, I have to explore this, you know. And you know, in maintaining my career, you know, which I have very strong boundaries and a great work-life balance with, and then, you know, making new friends and exploring the world, and then I had, you know, additional opportunities. Oh my gosh, commercials, all kinds of stuff. Um, I still couldn't leave this alone. And I'm like, everybody's gonna think I'm crazy. Why do I want to go here? I I want to work with women who have issues, you know, I want to help them, I want to uplift them. So that's where the um the name came from, Women Up. Uh, it also came from acknowledging that, you know, I I was not a little girl whenever I decided to um heal. I was a woman, and Constance reminded me many times, you can bleep me out, but I was a grown-ass woman. Yep. And it was time to, you know, look at the truth and work through it. And I had to woman up and do that. And I know that that is something that many women experience. Um, due to, you know, there's there's trauma there that led to my wisdom. There are very difficult challenges that led to my experience and knowing women, everything from child loss to domestic violence to being an adult child of an alcoholic. Um, but that's my truth. And there's power there and there's passion about others who may be experiencing um challenging external circumstances due to being, you know, programmed like I was. Um, so I just, you know, I want to help women, and I had to take a look at my skill set and how I would how I would support that, um, how I would fund that, what resources I would need in order to make an impact there. And, you know, being a yoga instructor, I was like, hmm, maybe I could I could do something with that. And then having this passion for travel, I was like, hmm, maybe I could do something with that. Of course, there's a lot of speaking and forward-facing um communication involved in running a nonprofit. Um, you have to be able to work with people, you have to be able to put your face out there. Um, and you know, through modeling, I was very confident in doing that. My background in healthcare um gives me the skills to be able to look at data and indicators for um health. And I want to zone in on women's specific challenges in that area. So I'm like, I can do this. I pulled everything together and I'm like, I'm I'm doing this. Um, and so I've decided that the best course right now is to offer a women's retreat. Now, the retreat will be, you know, this is something that women who are thriving would be able to participate in. Women who have the means to travel and do a retreat. This is called Journey to the South. It's going to be in Montego Bay, Jamaica.

SPEAKER_01 43:00

Oh, I love Montego Bay. Keep going, sorry.

SPEAKER_02 43:03

The beautiful, yeah, Montigo Bay. And we'll be doing some soul searching and some self-exploration with the women there on that retreat. You know, all because they have it together and they have the means to travel does not mean that they don't need time and space away to um, you know, focus on themselves and be reminded of what their interests and passions are and um prepare themselves for their next chapter. You know, this is this is fun, this is um, you know, inspiration, and it's gonna be a beautiful time.

SPEAKER_01 43:42

Now when is that what is that date, Victoria?

SPEAKER_02 43:45

The retreat is in November. It's gonna be November 6th through the 9th, Montego Bay.

SPEAKER_01 43:52

Okay, that's my birthday week.

SPEAKER_02 43:54

Okay, okay, well, I might have the next and so what.

SPEAKER_01 44:00

Is what is so your website for your foundation?

SPEAKER_02 44:03

It's womenup.ngo. Um, and I can share the link with you, but the the I put it in the description link, okay. Thank you. The really, really beautiful thing uh about this retreat and any retreat that I host is that we are identifying, you know, the women in in the places that we go who need help, women who aren't even thinking about going on a retreat, you know, they're surviving. So the women who are thriving are coming together and they're working on themselves and they're doing a little something for themselves, but ultimately, you know, they're also uplifting another woman. We are going to take proceeds from the retreat and we are going to use them to assist the women's center of Jamaica. The women's center of Jamaica works yes, they work with adolescent mothers and they um give them vocational training so that they can go out and they can find work to take care of their babies. And they they help keep an eye on the babies there. They have a preschool there, they have many facility needs. Um, currently the girls go to Kingston for their training. They would like to develop a lab um for training in Montego Bay. They need AC units, they need fences fixed. You know, they just experienced hurricane Melissa not long ago. So they need some help. And they're doing wonderful work for women that that will change the trajectory of their lives and their children's lives. So I'm like, absolutely, I want to help. Um, so again, our proceeds from this retreat will go to support that initiative. And I'll be meeting with them um in July, July the 3rd. I'm going to go down for a site visit and I'm going to speak um to the folks at the women's center and let them know that we're coming. And um to serve and to help. Yes. Absolutely. Wow. It's just a beautiful, beautiful thing. And you know, there will certainly be um other opportunities, but this one in Montego Bay is is really coming together nicely, and I'm excited for um additional women to come on board um and and come have some fun in Mobe.

SPEAKER_01 46:34

Wow. I'm I'm crying during this whole uh during this whole podcast because I I you're healing. And I just want to say to to to uh listeners, you know, I don't know what you're going through, what you've what what you experiencing, but Victoria so eloquently, and thank you for your vulnerability and honesty and authenticity, Victoria. Just shared how she moved from that unhealed place, that dysfunctional place into healing and how God has taken her pain and turned it into service, turned it into giving back, taken that pain and turned it into passion and purpose. Very powerful. And you're you're so eloquent at sharing from your soul. Initially, when we start, we got a couple of minutes. Initially, when we start, you said, even where do you begin? And I say, You begin from your heart. And you did that so intentionally. So everybody who is listening to me, y'all go to her website. Uh, give us that website one last time, Victoria.

SPEAKER_02 47:57

It's womenup.ngo.

SPEAKER_01 48:03

I love that. And I'm gonna make sure that the description that Katie puts the description uh uh uh in the link so that we all can can go there. And man, if I can change my schedule, I might be flying into Montego Bay November the 6th through the whenever that is. That's my birthday with me. So happy for you, so proud of you, so amazed and astonished at who you are. But but looking back on it, in many ways I'm not surprised. Because when I looked at your commitment to yourself, when I looked at your dedication to yourself, so she's taking all of this goodness, all of this wholeness into her life. She's taking it into her relationships, she's taking it into her business. And that's why at the very beginning, I said, Oh no, girlfriend, we're not starting with business, we're starting with you. And here you are, starting with you and your hill self, walking fully in your purpose and your passion. That's a mic drop. So proud of you. So, guys, go to her website if you have questions. She's the real deal. She's out to serve and to help folk. Uh, I love it the way that she's giving back and just the principle of people who are thriving. She's gonna take those proceeds and give it to uh other people, organizations who might uh, you know, really need that uh assistance. Victoria, you're all of that young woman. I always call her the queen, and indeed you are that. So proud of you, so happy for you.

SPEAKER_02 50:02

Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 50:03

You're so welcome. So everybody uh visit her website, and uh, as I said, I might look at my calendar and fly on down and get myself a tan down there in Montego Bay. And share this podcast. If you got a girlfriend, if you got a sister, a sibling, a co-worker, share this with a woman who you know might really be in the place of really needing healing, might feel stuck, might be going through a lot. Share this, share this on your timelines. I want at least a thousand people to share this on your timeline so that people can see firsthand exhibit A uh of what God can do in your life. And as I say every week, I want you to remember at this very moment the same energy, power, and love that's holding the galaxies together. You might not know it, feel it, or believe it. That same love, power, energy, and grace is behind the scenes, working on your behalf. Make it a great week, everybody. Thank you, Victoria. Thank you.