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The Roster Is Real And So Are Boundaries
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If you’ve ever asked, “How did we end up here when I’ve been giving everything I’ve got?”, this conversation goes straight to the center of it. We sit down with DJ Swagg for a candid male perspective on relationships, loyalty, and what people mean when they say they want love but don’t show respect. The goal isn’t to defend bad behavior, it’s to get honest about the patterns that keep breaking trust and draining good people.
We talk about what a healthy relationship looks like day to day: shared effort, dropping pride, and showing up when life gets heavy, not just when it’s cute on social media. Swagg challenges the way many men and women treat commitment, including the reality of “keeping a roster,” saying what sounds good instead of what’s true, and how timing can leave partners emotionally out of sync. We also dig into the most sensitive topic, cheating, and unpack the belief that men often separate sex from feelings while women may experience intimacy as more emotional, along with why betrayal can feel personal in different ways.
Then we get practical. We break down how social media comparison fuels insecurity, why chasing the marriage title won’t fix a shaky foundation, and how to protect yourself without becoming cold. If you’re struggling with whether to stay or leave, we talk about that gut-check moment: sitting with yourself, knowing you tried everything in your power, and letting go when you’re being taken advantage of. If this hits home, subscribe, share this with a friend who needs it, and leave a review with your take: what does respect look like in a real relationship?
Letting Go After You Tried
SPEAKER_05If you can sit down with yourself and say and just put everything on the table, you sit down with yourself, you put everything on the table and say, I tried everything in my power. And you know you tried everything in your power, you gotta be okay with it. You gotta just let God handle it and let it be what it's gonna be. Because people will take advantage of you. And when you think you're doing right for a person, they really taking advantage of you.
SPEAKER_01So Mike, we're not protective feelings, we're speaking truth. This is love, truth, and the middle perspective. I'm trying to say.
SPEAKER_00And the middle and we're the we've talked about what love is, we've talked about the truth about, we've talked about emotional safety.
SPEAKER_01Um
Bringing In A Male View
SPEAKER_01now we're asking what happens when we finally hear the other side. And the other side tonight is coming from none other than a male perspective, DJ Slack.
SPEAKER_03Okay, okay.
SPEAKER_01Glad to have you here with us. So you know you you swag to everybody, but we know you as Mr. for Chris Lane.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, y'all got me a little nervous, but I'm I'm gonna hold it down for the males.
SPEAKER_01Hold it down for tonight. Everybody said that's the hot seat over there.
SPEAKER_05So we good, we good, fellas. We good. Keep it real with y'all today.
SPEAKER_01You in the hot seat. So I guess we just gotta get right into it. So I don't know if you've watched all of the episodes of um this particular season, but we have been dealing with relationships. And so tonight we just want to ask you from a male perspective, what is a relationship to you?
What A Healthy Relationship Looks Like
SPEAKER_05A relationship to me is two people coming together for a greater good. Um what I lack in, she's good at. What she lacks in, I'm good at. Um we help each other out. Um I'm not gonna say I believe in the gender roles as much. Like some of them, yeah. So I don't want my girl out there cutting grass, you know what I'm saying? But I don't mind doing laundry. I don't mind cooking. So I don't really believe you clean, yeah. I can clean. Yeah, yeah. Anime show taught me how to clean. She taught me how to clean. So um like a it's a I don't want to use the word partnership either. Like we're here to make each other better. We're here to to push each other in any way we can. Um, not just with uh what people see on social media, not just with our jobs, like maybe you tired today, don't worry about cooking. Don't worry about getting the child ready for bed. I'll handle that tonight. You know what I'm saying? So that's what I believe in when it comes to a relationship.
SPEAKER_01Do you think that that's the perspective from most men? Or is it something that we're missing that you all don't want to admit that relationships are?
SPEAKER_05Um when you're speaking most men nowadays, a little different. Where you got some men, men and women that they want to use certain things when it benefits them. So some men will say that's your job. I don't cook, I don't clean. But in the same breath, you know, want her to do something that she's not used to doing or something. So I just feel like people when it comes to relationships, you really have to put your pride to the side. Like really, really put your pride to the side and be willing to do for if that person means what you say they mean to you, you're willing to do whatever. However, whenever. So I don't think people value that nowadays.
SPEAKER_01Nah. I don't think people value that nowadays. They don't. Um, what is something you feel like women believe about men that's just you think it's completely wrong? We believe it, but you all think it's completely wrong. Where where do we start? I start wherever you say.
SPEAKER_05So ask that, ask that question again so I can get it all processed. Digest. Yeah, digest it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01What's something women believe about men that's just completely wrong?
Cheating, Sex, And Feelings
SPEAKER_05Number one, this gon this gonna ruffle some people's feathers.
SPEAKER_01That's ruffle.
SPEAKER_05So if you catch your man cheating, don't think he cheated on you because he was looking for something else. We're men, you know, sometimes we know it's not right, we just we did it. But girl, I still love you. But women don't look at that as the ultimate hell no. You know what I'm saying? Um I hate to say this. So you saying men uh cheat because I'm not saying men cheat because let's take that out. Let's just throw that away. You said something like that.
SPEAKER_04Men cheat, stop, period. Yeah, period.
SPEAKER_05If when because oh, that's not an if. Yeah, don't don't when when we cheat. Everybody don't cheat. Yeah, yeah, sounds good. Um when we cheat, it's not because most women think, oh, you were looking for something else, like the love and all that good stuff. I seen this somewhere else on another podcast. Men look at sex like handshake, women is more emotional for y'all. Always. We are trying to get in and get out. So we can get out.
SPEAKER_01But you can get in and get out at home.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Actually, at home, you can get in, get in, get in.
SPEAKER_05Get in, get in, get in, and we get it. But we all like new stuff every now and again, men and women. And we're not just talking about cheating. You you buy a brand new car, you love it for a while, and then you you ride in it, and then you, you know what, I want a new car.
SPEAKER_04So I wanna I wanna kind of develop into that a little bit. Um, like the old people say, tearing. You're gonna tarry on it. Yeah, tarry on that so I can get some better understanding. When did you learn that? I didn't learn it.
SPEAKER_05I I I just see it and I I I understand it. Being 43 years old now and seeing things not just in my life and other people's life. I have friends that, you know, they I had a homeboy one time said, bro, we do things and if we don't get caught, it is what it is. You know what I'm saying? But I'm gonna roll the dice. And I looked at him like, bro, you tripping. And then I remember I took this advice from this guy that I really look up to to this day. And I I was younger when I took the advice, and he was like, uh uh a relationship is like a business. So get you a business partner. And now that I'm older, I don't agree with that a hundred percent. Like I used to. Because yeah, you can yeah, we're running a business, which is a household, but it also has to be some feeling in there somewhere. Oh, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So when he said that, he was just like, Yeah, you gotta have your business partner. And I'm like, I was in my late 20s when he said that.
SPEAKER_01You my business partner?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01And I was like, yeah, that's it. I'm your everything.
SPEAKER_05But you gotta have some type of feeling in there for that person. But um, some of the things that women think about men that are like totally not true at all, it's a number of them. When you think about when we love, we love. Like when we dare, we there. Like what I've realized when As long as you can go in and out. Nah. When we love, we love. So when you love, like, and I can only speak for me. I'm not speaking for every man. So fellas, it's for me. It's not for y'all. Um, when I love, I'm done doing all that crazy stuff because I understand at the end of the day, um, that could hurt you. Yeah, and I might not be able to come back from that. Now, the young me, I'm gonna roll the dice. Let's see what happens. You know what I'm saying? But now, me being my age and going through the things that I've gone through, yeah. When I love, I love. So when they tell you, like, when a man is really in love, he will sacrifice everything for that woman. He will sacrifice his happiness, his peace, everything for that woman, woman. So when I love, I love. Like, yeah, I may hate you today, but girl, I love you. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah.
SPEAKER_01I guess for me, I've always um, before Millicent, uh, in my previous, previous relationship, um, I knew that the person I was with cheated. And so, you know, I'm that type of person. Well, I used to be that type of person a long, long time ago. Uh don't play with me, because you did it, don't think I can't do it. And so I did do it. And then when I did it and he found out about it, it was like the world came to an absolute end. And so I've always been intrigued by the fact men can do it to women all day long. But the moment we do it to you, and I'm saying we as in women, yeah, women, y'all out there because you know, don't have nothing to do. Why why is it that you all can't handle it if it comes from us?
SPEAKER_05I got a great answer for your question.
SPEAKER_01I want to hear the great answer.
SPEAKER_05So, like I said, going right back to what I said before. When we cheat, there's no feelings involved. Yeah, I just I don't here's one of the things that women think men do. And it's some fellas out there that be lying. Oh, when I saw her, I knew she was my my wife immediately. Well, stop lying. When you saw her, when you saw her, you said, excuse me, damn, I want to.
SPEAKER_01Oh Lord. He didn't mean it like that.
SPEAKER_05I don't know if I could say it's just mine. When we as men see women, we don't say, Oh, they go my wife right there. And I I've DJ'ed so many wet ends, and and they just when I first saw her, I was like, that's my wife. Stop lying. When you saw her, you said, damn, I wanna f I wonder what that mouth do. That's what we think. First quarter sounds bad, but it's the truth. So I'm gonna say this, and you said, Why does it hurt a man so bad? Because like I said, when we love, we really, really, really, really, really love. For a woman to open her legs to a man, she has to feel something for that man. So that means another man has damn near the same power that I have. That means you're not really mine. So when you open your legs to another man, when you you don't agree?
SPEAKER_04No, I don't know if that's the case because you know, is uh, you know, men can have indulge and have sex with women just for conquering recreation, whatever uh to to to scratch an itch. But women, yeah, it could be about feeling, but it could be about coin. Oh I mean, uh just straight transaction.
SPEAKER_05Well, we're gonna okay. So that's where the world is at New Age ones, definitely that's where the world is at right now with the craziness where you have the older woman that was brought up, you keep them cookies for the right man. Correct. Now you have the new generation where everybody is sexually liberated, and sex is just sex to men and women. But at the end of the day, when you're talking about being with somebody, a man, it's very hard for a man to swallow the pill that someone else had his old lady.
SPEAKER_01But it could be the same way for us too, because I do believe when women love, we love hard with the same intensity as men. Women, when we're in a relationship, we give it our all. We give you everything that we got. We gonna make the sacrifices. Most women, I'm talking about the women of my generation, the seasoned generation here. Um, because that's what we were taught. That's what we grew up seeing. Um, it was about the the sacredness of the relationship that you were in. Um, yeah, the times have now changed, but I think women in general love with that that strong intensity. But once you once you mess up, once you break it, some of us can bounce back from it, some of us can't.
SPEAKER_05I'm not gonna say I totally agree with that.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_05From my experience, women love it, where I meet him, he do everything that I like initially, now you're in love. Then when life starts lifeing, then the love starts to fizzle out.
SPEAKER_01So it was in love there.
SPEAKER_05But that's what you're saying. So I'm taking off what you're saying. So that's when the love starts to fizzle away. So when it comes to a man, some guys, I'm not speaking for all of you, some of us are looking, taking our time.
Rosters, Timing, And Commitment
SPEAKER_05I like this girl. So let me see where it's gonna go. Let's see how this is gonna build. Let's see how this is gonna go. Where are you?
SPEAKER_01No, y'all taking y'all time. Like, I like this girl, but I'm still talking to this one over here. I got a bunch of stuff going on. I'm still talking to this one over here.
SPEAKER_05I got a bunch of stuff going on. I'm not finna clear my roster because I don't know what you're capable of just yet. See, let me feel you out. See, but I you you first on the roster right now. And if you're worth not the roster.
SPEAKER_01Did he say the roster?
SPEAKER_05Definitely the roster.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, a roster.
SPEAKER_05Nowadays, everybody got a roster, men and women. Roster, exactly. Your marriage. Everybody has a roster, men and women. I hear women say, have a roster right now. Have a roster right now.
SPEAKER_04So options.
SPEAKER_05I have options if that makes it feel better.
SPEAKER_04People there are several people that I enjoy.
SPEAKER_05If you want to be enjoying their company, you like that word better.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I enjoy the company. Options.
SPEAKER_05Well, I have options, and I'm not gonna clear my options and gamble all on you just yet. Let's learn each other. Let me see if I'm really here with you, and then I'm going to clear my options because I only want you.
SPEAKER_01So while you're doing that, while you're processing, I have to kind of test you out. This is a trial run because that's what I'm hearing and processing. We're already gun ho. We're gone ho. We're ready. We're like, I'm in a relationship, I like you.
SPEAKER_05What I've realized, and the some of the mistakes that we make as men, instead of saying the truth up front, absolutely, we will say what we know is gonna make you feel good. Yeah, um, so that's where we go wrong instead of saying, hey, listen, this, this, this, this, this, chill. You're not my girlfriend just yet. We're dating. We're not doing that just yet. Women will literally jump in and at the beginning they're so in love. And it's like four years down the line. Now it's I don't know if I want to do this anymore. And in that four years, the man is all in now because he's made financial investments, emotional investments, uh, all types of investments where he's like, I'm in now, I'm all the way in. Um, and I feel like it's more easier for women to walk away from relationships than there is men. Because men, like I said, once we're in and you really in, I'm in until we die. Even if y'all don't kill me in the comments for this, even if we're not married. Because if I'm in this and I done made all these sacrifices for you, and I'm here and I'm fighting with you every day. When I say fighting, meaning fighting the world, because it's us against the world. I'm fighting with you, even if we're not married, I'm here. I'm here. I think everybody's gonna see this different. We put so much, no, let me let me not say that.
SPEAKER_01No, say it. This is the 2W J podcast. We say it all, baby.
SPEAKER_05You know, the religious people are gonna say that's not God's way. But that title of being married, especially now, a lot of people want to be married and don't want to do the work. They just won't. They just want the title. Yeah, you're right about it. And the benefits of it. So if we can't go through it together without the title, what make you think the title is gonna make it better?
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_04So how you get honest, how you write? Right.
SPEAKER_05So at the end of the day, when you talk about men and women loving, I'm sorry, women, we love 10 times harder than y'all. It's when we love, it's not all. Y'all have three or four, five dudes that y'all can say, Well, I really loved him. I loved him.
SPEAKER_01Uh most we love them all in a different way, right?
SPEAKER_05A dude, boy, I got one or two. That's it. And I done dealt with numerous women.
SPEAKER_03No, yeah.
SPEAKER_05So, yeah, you have one or maybe two. And most men, especially the the guys that's really like lover boys and really into it, they find that one, get married, and be done. It'd be the woman that's really like, I'm not happy right now. I need something different. I want to walk away. But what about all this stuff that we done done? What about all this we done been to?
SPEAKER_04I think, yeah, I think that people and relationships, you can be at different places at different times. So let's say she came in, you know, my man, my man, my man, and she's like, everything is about him, you know, everything. His favorite ice cream, his favorite meal, you know, everything is about him. Um, she's like that for the first couple years. And he's still, you know, kind of doing his roster thing.
SPEAKER_05I'm gonna say the roster thing.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, he he he he he's doing his roster thing. And then, you know, he finally decides, oh, you know, I'm really serious about this. And at that point, you know, your years in and she's at a different place. You know, it's like kind of I don't know.
SPEAKER_05I don't know when do the energies match. I don't I don't know. Because again, you I'm maybe this is one of my flaws. Once I'm I'm gonna say this DJing. Everybody knows me as a DJ. When I decided to take DJing serious, nothing can take me away from it. Nothing. Nothing at all. Good times, I'm there, bad times, I'm there. I'm there and I'm praying for better times, I'm working for better times. So when you talk about committing to somebody, yeah, we may be in five different uh stages, but we here together. We got to figure this out. Let's figure it out. How are we gonna get on the same page? How are we gonna make this work? And then it's like, well, maybe this person outgrew
Social Media Pressure Vs Real Life
SPEAKER_05this person. I just feel like nowadays with social media, people have so many excuses to do dumb things.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and I think social media has nowadays, if you're not in a committed relationship or you with somebody that's very secure, or you're not a very secure person, social media is really ruining relationships right now because everything is about comparing yourself to what's going on on social media. And everything is not real.
SPEAKER_05I think we all fall victim to that in some category in our life. So, for instance, I'm a car guy. I look at another dude with a nice car and I'm like, damn, let me get my car together. That's the same thing.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, see that as motivation, not necessarily comparison.
SPEAKER_05And I'm I'm giving you ladies some some grace. That's the same thing y'all do with with with relationships and marriage. You're looking at your homegirl, like, damn, she married, and I know I I used to hang with her. She was a ho. Now she's getting married before me. I know I'm a better female than her. Yeah. Let me tighten up. It's just we all fall victim to that when it comes to social media in some category in our life. Look at what J. Cole said. Love yours. Love what you got going on. Water your grass. That's water your grass. Because everything that glitters ain't gold. There you're looking on social media and you're thinking, this is perfect. This is beautiful. And you don't know. These two people hate each other.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_05In real life.
SPEAKER_01In real life.
SPEAKER_05And roommates. Then when it comes out, oh my God, I can't believe it. I can't. They're just so beautiful together. So for me, yeah, I'm looking at stuff on social media. But I know what I got going on. You know what I'm saying? Like, yes, I want better. But some people, oh, you stagnant, you want to be in the same. Oh, you're comfortable. That's the word they use, comfortable. No, I'm always working to get better. But I'm grateful for where I'm at right now because if you look at somebody that's doing worse than you, you realize, boy, life ain't that bad, boy. This relationship ain't that bad. When you looking at somebody and you thinking, okay, they finna get married and all this good stuff, and then years later come out, he been cheating on her, she been cheating on him. This is what you was trying to make your life like. And you're not even realizing that they ain't even got their stuff together. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01So at the end of the day, when you talk about relationships on social media and no, I uh have you do you think you've ever been in a uh predicament where you just felt like uh I wanna I'm in a relationship, I wanna be here.
When Love Means Walking Away
SPEAKER_01I'm doing all that I can do to be here, but I know deep down inside I gotta go. Like I love you, I gotta go. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05Can you like the hardest thing in the world? Like when you sit in here saying, I love this person, but I gotta walk away from this person because it's just not working. No matter what only thing I can say to anybody out there listening, once you realize that when you if you can sit down with yourself and say and just put everything on the table, you sit down with yourself, you put everything on the table and say, I tried everything in my power, and you know you tried everything in your power, you gotta be okay with it. You gotta just let God handle it and let it be what it's gonna be. Because people will take advantage of you. Yeah, people take advantage of you, and when you think you're doing right for a person, they really taking advantage of you. So yeah. It's crazy, man. You just gotta let go and let God, bro. You really gotta let go and let God. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And nobody likes to be nobody likes to be taken advantage of. Um I think we all trying to get it together right now. Um you know, you're a good guy.
SPEAKER_05You don't do that. We're talking about in general. In general, yeah, we're doing we're talking about in general.
SPEAKER_01In general, um I hate to see good people. I hate to see good people being taken advantage of. Um especially when your heart is on the line. I feel like when your heart is on the line, you put everything that you got in it. Um, you put time, effort, sacrifices. Um, I know in my past situation, I think the hardest part for me to let go was it was kids involved. And how do you tell your kids, we gotta go. We can't be here. So I I honestly, I get it. I get it.
SPEAKER_04Um you know, I think I think one of the most challenging relationships is really it's the interpersonal relationships, you know. It's it's it's how how do we work together um in an honest way. Um, and that it can be so complicated. It can be so complicated when we really struggle with expressing um how we really feel um because we're concerned about how each other is, I don't want to make you mad, you know, or I don't want to disappoint you, you know, and it's it's complicated, you know, and so we bring all of all of those things into our relationships, and um it can be very challenging.
SPEAKER_01And I just think it's just people out there that is not ready to take relationships seriously. I mean, we've talked about all of the things that it takes to make a healthy relationship, and when you think you found that person and you're doing all you can to have this great healthy relationship, there's just generally people out there that is in it for a totally different reason, but they know how to make you feel as though they're in it for the right reason, and they'll do that for but you know, it's not only our relationships, it's our friendships.
SPEAKER_04I mean, you know, we absolutely we we literally talk about this stuff all the time about how we constantly trying to figure out okay, you know, what's true and what's authentic as opposed to what is just you know, this is something to do, or this is my next, you know, um is my next come up or or whatever, you know.
SPEAKER_01So it's it's tough, it's tough idea. So so what would be your advice? What would be your advice?
SPEAKER_05My damn advice.
Boundaries, Calling It Out Fast
SPEAKER_05My advice is to protect yourself at all costs.
SPEAKER_04Uh do you believe do you do you still do you believe in love?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, love is real. Love is real. Love will have you out here doing things that you thought you would never do in life. It's real cooking and cleaning and cleaning and cleaning. Um, yeah, my advice to people is just be careful. You gotta be real, real careful, especially nowadays. You gotta be real, real careful. And then um you gotta allow a person to be who they're gonna be. You gotta allow a person to, you know, you know what I'm saying? You can't make a person be with you. Yeah, you can't love a person into loving you the way you want to be. You can't do none of that. You just gotta let a person, whatever it is, bruh, that's what you want to do, great. No love lost, it is what it is. Um, and protect yourself, like literally protect yourself. Like when I say protect yourself, when you see certain things, call it out.
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_05Don't don't pre say that one more time. Call it out. You have to call it out right then right then. You can't wait two or three days and you have to call it out right then. Absolutely. Um I think in previous relationships, that's what I used to do all the time. I would see things and I'd be like, that wasn't right, but I ain't gonna say nothing because I don't want to argue.
SPEAKER_03You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_05So now me now, oh yeah, definitely. Hey, no, don't do that. We we ain't doing that. But see, it's so hard to really do things like that now when you think about like social media. If you're looking at social media and you're you're trying to you're trying to move the way you think women want to move, oh I don't like a man. That's insecure because you nah bro, you setting your boundaries and you letting them know like I'm not gonna put up with that, not doing that, and you gotta let them know off top, like this is what it's gonna be. I'm not trying to be your daddy, but for for both of us to exist in this space, there's gonna be some rules and some respect that you're gonna have to do. We're not going, I'm not going for that. And it may sound harsh. That's what I say to you.
SPEAKER_01Ah, but it sounds like the person is trying to be controlling. Um, but I get what you're saying. You're saying that you have that effective communication, and you're telling the person, these are my boundaries. Yeah, yeah. What you need, what you need. This is what I need to survive in this relationship. So now we got to come together and find a happy medium, a happy medium. Yeah, if not, it's gonna already start going to it's gonna go.
SPEAKER_05Well, it's it's gonna go your way because I let you get away with these things for so long. So now you're used to it going your way. And once I start setting boundaries, that become foreign to you, like, well, you never did that before. You know, this new, right? It's new. So, all in all, um, yeah.
SPEAKER_01So let me ask you this what um, because and and people just may not know this, but as a male, what is it that you would say that you really need in a relationship? I know we've talked about you know your boundaries and what you want, but what what is it that you feel like you're not negotiating or or men in general just need?
The Non Negotiable Need For Respect
SPEAKER_05I'm speaking for every man in America. Respect.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, but that's so loaded though.
SPEAKER_05That's so loaded, loaded, right?
SPEAKER_04So with it being loaded, that that I mean that literally means different things to different people.
SPEAKER_05When it being so loaded, when you talk about respect, when I'm in a room where people respect me at, I feel good, I feel comfortable, I'm okay, I know I'm getting respect from my peers. I'm getting so when I walk into my house and the person that's screaming love me every day, but don't show me no respect, doesn't make any sense.
SPEAKER_01So, what does respect look like to you? You come home, you just got off um a DJ gig.
SPEAKER_05I don't need much. I'm not one of them dudes where my my meal gotta be done, and I don't I don't need that. Respect. Just respect. Chad Ochosinko said this, and he may be the worst person to take advice from because of his relationship past, but always know this. You go through things to become the person you are. So when women judge men from oh he got this many baby mamas or he he mess with this many girls, he's learning. He's learning. And then when he gets to that person that he's really gonna settle down with, he's damn near a perfect person. Well, nobody's perfect. Wouldn't say that. Let's take that back. Sorry.
SPEAKER_03Sorry.
SPEAKER_05Um so he said this. You know what the hell you're supposed to do. You grown. I ain't gotta sit down and have this conversation with you like a child. You know what you're supposed to do. I'm not finna sit here and have this rule list for you and all. You know what the hell you're supposed to be doing. But what if they don't? We don't you ain't got no business being in a relationship.
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SPEAKER_05Anything that I choose to do for you, that's not bare minimum. That's me choosing you. Because I can do this for anybody, but I choose to do it for you.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_05So when you say bare minimum, if a man is going out every day working hard, paying bills, and you say that's bare minimum, well, get your up and go live by yourself, and I pay my bills by myself, and I live by myself.