Episode 6 - Toothpaste, Tension & Taking Care of Mom and Dad

There is a moment in life that no one really prepares you for. It is when the people who raised you slowly start needing you. Not in big dramatic ways at first, but in small everyday moments that somehow feel heavier than anything else.

In this episode of Pour Decisions, we talk about what that really looks like in our lives right now. David shares what it is like caring for his 98-year-old father. The routines, the responsibility, and the quiet reality of watching someone you love age right in front of you. It is not always easy, and it is not always talked about, but it is real.

I open up about my mom, who is 89 and in assisted living. The constant thoughts that run through your mind. Am I doing enough. Am I making the right decisions. How do you balance your own life, your business, your marriage, and still show up the way you want to for your parent. There is a lot of love in it, but there is also guilt, pressure, and moments that catch you off guard.

We also talk about hitting 20 years of marriage. Because when you are in this season of life, your relationship shifts too. You lean on each other in different ways. You see each other differently. And somehow, you keep showing up together through all of it.

And because this is us, we do not stay serious the whole time. David goes off on why he does not trust self-driving cars, which somehow makes perfect sense when you think about everything else, we are navigating. And yes, we even end up talking about brushing our teeth in the shower. Because life is not just heavy. It is also weird, funny, and completely unpredictable.

If you are taking care of a parent, or you know this season is coming, this episode will feel familiar. You are not the only one figuring it out as you go.

Pour a glass and come sit with us.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

You're listening to Four Decisions. Like, love business line with Erin and David, our partner in strategy and artists. Let's begin. So welcome to Four Decisions. I'm Erin.

SPEAKER_03 0:18

I'm David, Crumbly.

unknown 0:22

Sorry.

SPEAKER_00 0:23

We are the Crumblys. And uh actually that we skipped last week because David was out of town. We'll get back to that because I got something special today.

SPEAKER_03 0:34

Nice.

SPEAKER_00 0:35

Yeah, our anniversary is actually on Wednesday. So we'll be married for 20 years. And I actually got out of the cabinet and freaked David out our original bride and groom champagne glasses.

SPEAKER_01 0:49

Nice.

SPEAKER_00 0:49

That we got back 20 years ago when we got married. Our friends got those for us. And I got another sentimental thing.

SPEAKER_03 0:58

Paper bag.

SPEAKER_00 0:59

Paper bags because I'm classy like that.

SPEAKER_03 1:02

Shandon brute.

SPEAKER_00 1:04

Shandon, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:05

California sparkling wine.

SPEAKER_00 1:07

We went to it's exceptional sparkling wine, by the way.

SPEAKER_03 1:12

Well, I hope so. Well, it says it right here.

SPEAKER_00 1:14

Oh, it's Shandon.

SPEAKER_03 1:15

It must be true.

SPEAKER_00 1:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:17

Yeah, but so uh our 10-year anniversary, we took a trip out to California, went to uh Napa, Sonoma, and we were able to visit the Shandon winery out there. It's absolutely gorgeous, gorgeous. The little outdoor area, and they had like little snacks and charcuterie boards, and yeah, we just hung out most of the day there. It was just absolutely phenomenal.

SPEAKER_00 1:40

Overlooking all the vineyards and stuff, yeah. We ended up becoming their uh they all have wine clubs, and so we did.

SPEAKER_03 1:49

We we signed up for the wine clubs.

SPEAKER_00 1:50

Wine club, so we were getting yeah, Shandon every month, and it was you know what was that? Shandon Shandon. Shandon. So can you get that open there?

SPEAKER_03 2:03

No, I cannot. Here we go.

SPEAKER_00 2:05

I asked him before we started doing the video. I was like, do you think you can get this open?

SPEAKER_03 2:09

I can get it open, I can do this.

SPEAKER_00 2:11

Yeah, I see that.

SPEAKER_03 2:12

I can do this.

SPEAKER_00 2:13

Yeah, that was a great trip. Um, Visa Tui was probably my favorite winery when we went there. Uh they only sell direct to consumers, they don't go through distribution. And they had an old old 100 vine zin, red zen that was so delicious. And um, but we supposed to sound like oh that wasn't good.

SPEAKER_03 2:34

It's supposed to sound like an angel's fart. That was what I was about to tell you. That angel had some gas, must have ate some, must have ate some of those beans you had last night.

SPEAKER_00 2:47

Don't know what he's talking about, but yeah, it's supposed to sound a little less like that, but it's okay.

SPEAKER_01 2:53

Whoops, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:54

Oh happens. Why do they make them smoke small, like the champagne glasses? You're supposed to sip them, right? But I like to gulp. And they make them so tiny, but well, we'll just have to keep filling it up.

SPEAKER_03 3:03

Oh that's how that works.

SPEAKER_00 3:04

Yeah, look at that, all right all the way to the brim. Yeah, so 20 years.

SPEAKER_03 3:10

Twenty years. It feels like a long time.

SPEAKER_00 3:14

It doesn't feel like it was that long, though.

SPEAKER_03 3:16

No, it doesn't. Actually, it doesn't.

unknown 3:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 3:18

Thinking back the other day, I was thinking about some, you know, some of the times I had with with my girls before I met Aaron, and uh the cat's playing with the paperback, so I'm gonna have to move that, I'm sure. But um, it seems like a lifetime ago sometimes. You know, you think back on when your kids were so small and now they're grown and they've got kids of their own, and it just seems like wow, it seemed like that was a completely different lifetime ago. Yeah, I'm gonna have to do something with the bag. Pardon.

SPEAKER_00 3:50

Pardon, Shandong.

SPEAKER_03 3:51

Pardon, Shandong.

SPEAKER_00 3:53

Yeah, our little tiny uh Persian is playing with the paper bag that David just threw down the ground, and now David's picking up.

SPEAKER_03 4:00

I'll pick up the trash because Aaron would want me to.

SPEAKER_00 4:02

Because I'm like that. OCD. I am an OCD person. Um and now you have me totally off. I don't even know what I was talking about now.

SPEAKER_03 4:12

We were talking about our anniversary, we were talking about why I was gone.

SPEAKER_00 4:16

Oh, yeah. Well, before before we talk about why are you gone.

SPEAKER_03 4:19

Well, yeah, we got toast. Here's the 20 wonderful years, and here's the 20 wonderful.

SPEAKER_00 4:24

Oh, you were talking about like how close like it goes by so fast.

SPEAKER_03 4:29

Well, yeah, it's so weird, you know. Oh, that's so good.

SPEAKER_00 4:32

It is so good.

SPEAKER_03 4:33

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 4:33

Um broke up.

SPEAKER_03 4:35

Yeah, you know, time just it flies by. Sometimes you think, well, this, you know, this is this period of my life is lasting forever, and especially when you have troubles and stuff going on. And then you look back, you know, five years, ten years down the road, you're like, I mean, it's like you know, what does the Bible say? It's like a your lifetime is like a vapor, it just comes from the boiling water and disappears. That's that's our life, and it's that was kind of sad and depressing, but um oh there's a lot of time in that vapor, I suppose.

SPEAKER_00 5:08

That vapor goes by fast. No, I think the older we get, the faster the faster time goes by. You know, just we were just talking, um, David just got back from Georgia, that's why we didn't do an episode last week because he was in Georgia all week and and he was taking care of his 98-year-old father, and we were having this conversation because my mom is 89 and his dad's 98, and um and we were talking about the fact that you know when you you you're their responsibility until you're you're 18, and then you're on your own, and then you get married, and then you raise your kids, and then then the kids move out, and and then you know, maybe you see your grandkids every once in a while, but nobody ever signed us up for like, hey, now you're in your 50s and 60s, now you have to take care of your parents.

SPEAKER_03 5:58

Yeah, and become responsible for them. Which is yeah, and it's funny because we've got um a number of friends, uh, some really close friends that are dealing with the same thing. And um having to put their life on hold to take care of their their folks because you know, their their folks just get to a point where they can't take care of themselves anymore. And you know, you you have this whole debate, you know. I've got I've got three other siblings, so you know, we have this we had this debate about, you know, should we put dad in a home, you know, or you know, in a assisted living. We used to call it old folks home back then. We called old folks home when we're little.

SPEAKER_00 6:38

Yeah, I don't remember going to see my grandma on old folks. Actually, my grandparents lived in their house until they died. Until they passed. And yeah. And I remember my dad's mother and father taking care of their mother-in-law, his mother-in-law, that she lived with them. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 6:56

Yeah, so I mean you you have the debate, you know, and it and I've always thought that, well, my dad, my dad still has his um his uh mind. He you know, he can still think very clearly. And I've always thought, well, when he decides that it's time, then I'll I'm I'm ready to put him somewhere if he if he wants to. But I would never do it against his will and and try to force him into it because you know, he's 98, but I'm telling you, until he was 97 and a half, uh, he was still going strong. And uh, you know, your body just gets to a point where it's it wears down and and you just can't do the things you used to do. Especially he can't the things he used to love to do, photography, he he's written eight or nine books. Um he reads a lot or he used to, and now he can't see. And that's really gotten on him really heavy, uh on his on his mind because he now he can't do the things that he really loved to do before. He used to work in his work uh uh workshop woodworking and uh used to do little things around the house all the time and and draw and he's got photography was one of his big passions for a while, and uh and now he can't do any of that uh because he can't see, and it's gotta be frustrating. And he finally, this last trip, I was up there, my brother came over, and we were talking to dad, and I think dad's ready to go into a home. So my oldest brother is taking him to a couple places this week, and hopefully he'll find something that he likes. Um my dad is one of those people that he thrives on um interaction with people. He's always been he's always been the life of the party. He he has a trillion dad jokes, and he'll just pull them out of his back pocket all the time. And it's he's funny, he's witty, charming. And uh so I think uh I think being around other folks um his age is gonna be good for him. I think it's gonna really give him a little boost because now he just sits home all the time. He talks on the phone, and he's he's got a lot of people that call and check on him. While I was there, we had just three random people I didn't even know. Um just stopped in and checked on him. I guess Sunday school class folks and church folks and uh old friends or old children, the children of old friends.

SPEAKER_00 9:21

And uh pretty much outlived everybody.

SPEAKER_03 9:24

Yeah, he's lived. You know, that's the thing too, is if you think about it, I mean, everybody he knows that he's known his whole life is gone. Like there's no friends, there's no family. Uh the only family he's got near his age is is my uh my aunt, and she lives down the street, but she's in her mid 80s now and starting to lose. Um starting to lose a little bit. Yeah, but um yeah, so it's uh but everybody you know is gone. How crazy is that? I can't even imagine that. Everybody you grew up with, all your siblings, everybody you've ever known in your entire life, you know, except for the children, those kind of folks. But um, so anyway, we were just talking about that earlier, and and like I said, we've got some really close friends that are dealing with the same thing. And nobody prepares you for that. Nobody talks to you, nobody, it's not a class in school, not even a class in college, you know. No, hey, wake up, you're gonna have one day you're gonna have to take care of you folks.

SPEAKER_00 10:21

Yeah, my mom, my mom went into assisted living and uh with my my stepfather who passed a few months ago, and then we moved her into a better assisted living, more like an apartment community. But the thing is, it's like she sits in that room all day, watches the news, never goes out and interacts, uh, doesn't want um watches the fake news, by the way. Oh, come on now. She just listens, she listens to the news all day long, and then she expects my brother's sister and I, who my brother and sister retired and they moved here near near my mom and myself to help, but like she won't ask for anybody, won't ask anybody for help, but she wants us to round the clock, go pick up her groceries uh or you know, her medications or something. And so we put her in assisted living, but she still asks us to do something almost every day for her, which is now like another 30-minute drive for me or 25 minutes. And it's it's like it's not right now, yeah, it's and it's not feasible, but she won't get out and meet other people in that facility, and they've got wine like at five o'clock, they have um dinners together, they have all these social activities, but she chooses to stay inside that room all day and expects us to just stop what we're whatever we're doing and go and take care of her, and it's just so unfair.

SPEAKER_03 11:50

Well, I just went out today. Like, you knew you had like three pillows left, you could have ordered some more, and you know it's it's one of those things where they she expects her children just to jump no matter what they're doing, and stop what they're doing and go take care of her and go get her some groceries, even though at the facility they'll go get the groceries for her, they'll order the stuff for her Instacart, too. All this stuff for her, but she won't ask them to do it, but she'll ask her kids to do it.

SPEAKER_00 12:18

And I think it's I don't I think she uses it as an excuse because she's lonely. I'm sure and she wants somebody to be around her, yet she won't go out and socialize. Um, she sits there and tells me that she's perfectly happy being alone every time I see her. I mean, it's funny because I keep repeating the same stories too. You get older, and I guess that's all you have to remember, or you have to hold on to it, and you just repeat.

SPEAKER_03 12:41

You forget who you tell these stories to.

SPEAKER_00 12:43

Maybe because I mean, over and over and over again, I hear the same thing. Well, I'm happy, perfectly happy being by myself, but sure doesn't seem like it because every time she needs something, we have to jump through hoops to get it for her, and it's just so unfair. But I and I know other people are dealing with it, and I think it's an important issue to talk about because we were talking about it in the last couple of days. You know, I think there's comes a time and and they don't realize it. They don't realize that they're they need to be an assisted living. I think they think, oh, we've we're fine, we don't need it. But when you can't walk or you know, your fall hazard and and you can't see or whatever, it comes to a point where you're like, you have to be.

SPEAKER_03 13:25

Yeah, you need some assistance.

SPEAKER_00 13:28

But yeah, but they but you gotta like somehow tell them, like, listen, you can't do this on your own. And some people are like, yeah, you're right. And some people like my mom were like, no, I don't, I don't need, I want to live in my house. I'm like, but you can't, you know, you're calling it you're calling ambulances every night, you know, for something. Um, you just can't do it anymore. And she fought tooth and nail, and I hated to we hated to do it, but um, and you know, I just wish because I feel like if I was put in a home, which according to Taylor, she's gonna like when we get older if she's gonna we're gonna move in with her.

SPEAKER_03 14:01

Her daughter says we could live with her. And Dylan's we'll see how that goes.

SPEAKER_00 14:04

Dylan says the same thing. Um, I'll never put you in a home. Um, I'm sure we probably said that at one time too. Uh so you're just laughing at that. But I think if I was gonna go into a home, I'd be like the life of the party. I would have my little electric scooter, and I'd go down the hallway and knock on everybody's door and say, Hey, let's go. It's happy hour at five o'clock, let's go have fun. I'd be like the middle of all the events and the the parties, I'd be having a great time.

SPEAKER_03 14:30

Uh she would, I guarantee you that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:33

And I don't see myself just sitting in a room watching TV all day, feeling feeling sorry for myself and expecting my kids to go pick up, you know, denture cream or whatever that's needed. She's not on her dentures, but um, you know, I name my no-smoke gum, you know. So it's just it's just kind of sad. And I just don't I don't know if we're gonna be like that. I hope not, because it's they're angry. Older people get angry, super angry.

SPEAKER_03 15:04

It's gotta be frustrating, right? Because now you can't do half of the things that you used to do so well, and now you can't do them. So I I see why people get you know kind of angry when they get older. My mom kind of went the opposite direction when she was younger. She had an anger issue, and as she got older, she mellowed out. And by the end of her life, me and her were very, very close. And um so uh and the one thing I you know, you're talking about your mom, and you guys basically had to make the decision to put your mom uh in the home. Um I'm thankful that my dad, uh again, he still has his wits about him, so he pretty much made the decision on his own. And and I told my my brothers and my sister, I was like, as long as dad wants to be by himself and he can do it, um then I'm all for him staying by himself in in the home. I don't I didn't want him to to leave his his home. He'd been there for who knows, 30 plus years in that particular house. But uh yeah, but my I think my dad finally saw the fact that he's he's had some issues recently and and the siblings we've all tried to rotate so that we're there at least for a portion of the day. Um, you know, every day. Somebody's there with him just to check on him, make him dinner, you know, whatever. Um but uh but he finally decided he's he's ready. So we'll see how all that.

SPEAKER_00 16:33

Just make sure you cut his sandwich sideways.

SPEAKER_03 16:35

Oh yeah. Older people are very, very particular about their foods. My dad, I'll tell you a funny story. So um my dad is like, Can you make me a sandwich? It was lunchtime. Sure, dad. You know, he's I got some turkey and I saw I saw it, Dad. No problem. I got you. Plenty of mayonnaise on the bread, okay. All right, dad. And three slices of turkey. I got you, Dad. Three slices. Oh, but don't fold them up, don't fold them up. Put the turkey flat on the bread. I hate it when when you know, my sister, I'm not gonna say her name, but anyway, she goes, I hate it when they people fold the meat. I don't like it, I just leave it flat on the bread. I'm like, okay, dad. And then he goes, and two Oreo cookies, because he has to have a dessert with his every single meal. He goes, two Oreo cookies and cut the sandwich diagonally. And I said, I didn't say it out loud, but in my brain, I'm like, cut this sandwich diagonally. Like, why? It's just because he likes it that way. It I don't know why. But it to me, it was like, that's crazy. If somebody's making me a sandwich, I'd be like, Oh, thank you so much for making me a sandwich. I don't care how you cut it, I don't even care if you cut it. But he's like, cut it diagonally, and make you know, he said, make sure you cut it diagonally. So I was like, okay, did you have to measure it?

SPEAKER_00 17:57

Did he want like perfectly from corner to corner?

SPEAKER_03 17:59

I did it corner to corner, did it perfect. I separated the bread just a little bit so he could see it was cut in half. And uh and the two Oreo cookies on the side of his plate, and he was happy. I did it right. So but yeah, it's just like that.

SPEAKER_00 18:16

Are you gonna be like that?

SPEAKER_03 18:17

I probably am. I'm already like that kind of.

SPEAKER_00 18:19

I know. Don't touch my chair, yeah. Yeah, don't touch my things. Don't touch my stuff, don't touch my stuff, don't touch my things. Everything has to don't fold my clothes like that. I want them that folded like a certain way. Yeah, I know. Meanwhile, when I met him, he had clothes everywhere, all over the floor and everywhere. Wrinkled in big piles and big piles, but now he's like, it has to be folded like this here. And I don't like the way you fold my clothes, and I'm like, I don't know. I mean you know, just I learned how to do that when I worked at a um uh what do you call it? A clothing store back in my six when I was 16 or so. I learned how to close and fold them just like that because they had it like perfectly stacked, right?

SPEAKER_03 18:55

Right.

SPEAKER_00 18:56

Yeah, but yours aren't perfectly stacked.

SPEAKER_03 18:59

The flat side that she does, she folds it and she puts it down, and the flat side that you're looking at, it's beautiful. There's no wrinkles in it at all. Which is the only reason you fold clothes, by the way, is to get the wrinkles out. And the and the but then you grab the shirt and you open it up, and everything else is like wrinkles all in it.

unknown 19:16

And I don't like that.

SPEAKER_00 19:18

Well, maybe I need to watch those TikTok videos because there's these TikTok videos that show how to fold the perfect shirt or how to fold the sweaters or how to like fold the perfect sheets. Yeah, it's it's crazy. If you go on TikTok and you look at folding, it shows you how to fold everything perfectly so it looks good.

SPEAKER_03 19:34

So uh I just care about my shirts, I don't care about anything else. She folds pants just fine.

SPEAKER_00 19:40

Yeah, well, that's pretty easy to do. Yeah, 20 years. And I still can't fold your clothes right.

SPEAKER_03 19:46

I think she does it on purpose so she doesn't have to fold my clothes anymore.

SPEAKER_00 19:50

I do. Actually, you're you're on to me. I do. Yeah, I guess cheers for that. Cheers for that making you irritated enough that you want to do your own laundry.

SPEAKER_03 20:01

Well, she's already got me doing the kitchen, so I do.

SPEAKER_00 20:04

He does it every morning. He gets up and does my dishes. And um, because you know, and he yells at me if I don't wash my plate off and put it in the dishwasher.

SPEAKER_03 20:11

Yeah, because there's food in the dishwasher, and who has to clean out the filter? Not her. Just giving you a hint.

SPEAKER_00 20:17

It is me. Not her. I mean, yeah, I clean out those filters. What are you talking about?

SPEAKER_03 20:21

I clean out the filter.

SPEAKER_00 20:22

I go in and take out the little filter and clean out the grease and all that other stuff, too.

SPEAKER_03 20:26

Well, there wouldn't be any of that in there if you washed off your plates.

SPEAKER_00 20:29

Well, I mean, I'm just saying, who has time to like wash off the plates before putting them in? I mean, that's what a dishwasher's for.

SPEAKER_03 20:37

No, there's no little there's there's no little person in the dishwasher scrubbing your dishes. It's just water that hits it. That's all it is, is water.

SPEAKER_00 20:45

I know, I know.

SPEAKER_03 20:48

Do you think there's like little gnomes or something in the dishwasher? Yeah, well, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:53

I don't have time for that. I don't have time for like cleaning my dishes off. I mean, come on now. Come on now.

SPEAKER_03 20:59

Anyway, so I do the dishes.

SPEAKER_00 21:01

He does do the dishes every morning, which is a good thing. And I do the trash.

SPEAKER_03 21:06

Well, I try to do the trash, but sometimes I forget.

SPEAKER_00 21:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:09

I did the trash today.

SPEAKER_00 21:10

You did do the trash today, yeah. Yeah, just because just because we had the the showing on the house today, so we were like scrambling around trying to get it perfect.

SPEAKER_01 21:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:19

Yeah. Yeah, we're selling our house. Well, we're talking about selling our house and moving to Pensacola, but I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 21:27

We haven't gotten any good offers yet, and um we don't want to we don't want to take a lowball offer. I think uh we got a really nice house here and it's worth some money and we're gonna try to get what we can for it.

SPEAKER_00 21:37

And if not, we're just staying here and yeah and yeah, make it a I love this house. Love this house. So what other things we want to dissect tonight besides getting old? I mean, you know, getting old, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:48

We don't want to talk about that off. Oh, we have a we have an anniversary trip coming up.

SPEAKER_00 21:53

Oh yeah, that's right. We leave tomorrow morning. I finally got it out of him. He couldn't hold it anymore. He kind of gave

SPEAKER_03 22:00

She played like what is it called 20 questions or 10 questions or whatever? Yeah. Where she started asking me stuff about where we were going.

SPEAKER_00 22:08

Well, he did last week because he planned it last week when he was in Georgia. He's like, Do you want to go to a city with like shopping and places to eat, or do you want to go off the grid? And I said, Let's go off the grid. Let's just go off the grid. So Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:24

I mean, I've been playing it for a while. I just uh I just pulled the trigger last week. But um Yeah. So yeah, but yeah, we decided uh and I'm glad she did too, because I kind of wanted to get off the grid too. We've we've had a crazy probably last six months have been really crazy for us. And um yeah, I think you know, just to be out in in nature and be away from everything for a little bit, yeah. I think I'll do some good.

SPEAKER_00 22:48

Yeah, I told them we have to put the phones down because you know we have those habits of like looking at our phones at all times. Yeah, we'll put the phones down and we bring in the computers because we've got closings coming up too.

SPEAKER_03 22:59

Yeah, I gotta take the computer, that sucks. But a few closings. You can't and buyers. Yeah, in our business, you can't in real estate, you can't just completely get off the grid unless you have somebody dedicated to take care of your business while you're gone. And we we don't we're a team, we work together. So if if I'm gone, she can take care of it, she's gone, I can take care of it. But if we're both gone, we gotta work. But that's that's the nature of the business. You gotta be available when your clients are available.

SPEAKER_00 23:26

If we get our kids to get into real estate, they could take care of it for us. But yeah. That's the problem with millennials, they don't really want to work very hard.

SPEAKER_03 23:34

Yeah, they don't. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, some of them are more motivated than others for sure. But uh yeah, it's uh it's tough.

SPEAKER_00 23:46

Yeah, selling my older son, our older son, like I'm like, you need to get you're 25, you'll be 26 in April. I'm like, you need to get your real estate license. Oh, I'm okay, okay. Never did.

SPEAKER_03 23:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:55

Yeah. I I bought him a class to go through the class and he got right to the very end, and then he just never took the test and then it lapsed.

SPEAKER_03 24:03

Then it no.

SPEAKER_00 24:04

Yeah. That was like about a year and a half ago. Yeah. One of the many things. Yeah, I didn't realize you did that. Yeah, I did that because I wanted him to be I wanted to be a whole family of real estate. I thought we sold the house here and moved to Pensacola, we could be a whole empire, like a crumbly price empire of kids and parents, you know, working in real estate. And we would be taking over Pensacola, which is growing in a really nice area.

SPEAKER_03 24:31

This area right now, there's a lot more buyers in the market than there were just just a month ago, just two months ago. Um, so we're starting to see quite an uptake in our business, which is really good. So, but yeah, but you gotta be available, you just have to.

SPEAKER_00 24:47

So when our cabin in the woods, hopefully we get some reception. Yeah, hopefully have some reception up there and we're really screwed.

SPEAKER_03 24:57

I mean, like the Airbnb girl said they had Wi-Fi, so she goes, make sure you turn on your phone on Wi-Fi calling, because you're not gonna have any signal on your phone.

SPEAKER_00 25:07

Oh, she said that? Yeah, oh I think that's a great thing, but yeah, we have just a couple of buyers recently, so we they want to see houses right away, so yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:18

We got a closing on uh this week, so so it'll it'll work out fine, I'm sure. I'm sure it will.

SPEAKER_00 25:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:25

Positive.

SPEAKER_00 25:26

Positive thinking. And yeah, we did the um the the MCO show uh last week, two weeks ago. That was really fun.

SPEAKER_03 25:34

Fridays ago, it was so much fun.

SPEAKER_00 25:35

Yeah, James was uh it was last Friday, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_03 25:39

It was last Friday.

SPEAKER_00 25:40

Yeah, I guess so. I don't know. I yeah, I guess so. See time's flying by. Yeah, but yeah, that was kind of fun to be in the studio and see all the what he does.

SPEAKER_03 25:53

The captain, his name is James Hutto. He's my uh brother-in-law, ex-brother-in-law, but he's still very good, very close. Uh great guy, and he calls himself the captain, and he's got the uh MCO E M C O MCO morning show. I'm guessing that stands for Emerald Coast. And it's on Beach Hits Radio, which is on Facebook, Twitter, you name it, all kinds of social media.

SPEAKER_00 26:17

He was trying to stump us. He was totally trying to stump us. He asked like scenarios and what would we do, and we both pretty much answered the same thing, yeah. Which is funny because uh next month on the 26th, if you can make it, we are we have uh we're doing and the Friends of Navarre, Lisa Bradbury, and she's um she runs the group Friends of Navarre. They're having uh like a newlywed show, or like what you do on the cruise ships, you know. You've been married, you get the ones that have been married for the first five years, ones that have been married for you know like 10 to 20. Yeah, and then the ones that have been married for like 50 years. So we're competing at the beach at Windjammers at four o'clock on the 26th of April for the the newlywed show. Well, I don't even know if we won't call it like what do they call it on the cruise ship?

SPEAKER_03 27:05

I think they call it the newlyweds or the couples. I don't know. I forget. We tried to get on the last the last cruise we did, we tried to get on the show, but they only picked up the city. We weren't cool enough.

SPEAKER_00 27:15

Yeah, we weren't cool enough. But yes, but we're cool enough to be on this, and so we're um we're gonna be competing against other couples. But we just realized before we got on the show that that's also his best friend's bachelor party in Daytona Beach that weekend. So I'm like, well, you better get your ass in that car and zoom up here because we already have they advertised it. Yeah, I've advertised it, everybody's talking about wanting to be there. You better get up there, like you better be up here quickly, or I'm gonna beat you.

SPEAKER_03 27:44

Uh yeah, and I better drink my electrolytes.

SPEAKER_00 27:47

Yeah, that's what I told him. I said, You're gonna be hungover.

SPEAKER_03 27:50

Alka seltzer, ibuprofen, and electrolytes.

SPEAKER_00 27:54

Maybe we should have bought a Tesla so it could just drive you up here.

SPEAKER_03 27:57

So you didn't nap on the way.

SPEAKER_00 27:59

You can nap on the way, yeah. Just to keep your hand on the wheel, just nap the whole way up.

SPEAKER_03 28:05

Yeah, just get a string and tie my phone to the wheel.

SPEAKER_00 28:09

Yeah, I can see that. Yeah, I can totally see that happening.

SPEAKER_03 28:12

Oh, I would never do that. I would never trust a computer to drive me anywhere.

SPEAKER_00 28:16

He doesn't trust computers, he thinks they're all out together.

SPEAKER_03 28:20

Computers, AI, it's all stupid. He doesn't trust my they'll never be smart because they're made by humans, and humans are stupid. So they're either like brilliant um but have no common sense, which is usually what these things end up being. Like, I'll give you a perfect example. We have a car that has uh quote unquote safety features, right? Some of the safety features is it tells you when you're getting close to something, right? Bumpers, whatever. Who needs that? I don't need that. If I needed that, I wouldn't be driving. But the biggest thing pisses me off is if I go to turn and and there is a line, like even if it's a striped line and I'm I'm going, if I don't hit my blinker, the car tries to pull me back into the lane. It actually physically pulls the car back into the lane. So I can name you probably 10 things right now. I'll I'll start with five. I'll name you five things that that does not make any sense, right?

SPEAKER_00 29:20

First of all, I'm gonna start drinking now.

SPEAKER_03 29:23

A squirrel. A squirrel jumps out in front of you, and you try to get off out of the lane so you don't hit the squirrel, the car's gonna pull you back in and kill the squirrel, dogs, humans.

SPEAKER_00 29:36

You can still pull it out of the line, you can still pull it out of the line.

SPEAKER_03 29:39

It's just it fights you, it pulls you back into the lane. Yeah, so obviously, I turn all that BS off when I get into the car. I can't believe anybody that needs all that stuff to drive. That was why people, you don't need to be in the car driving. You need to like Uber everywhere you go. If you need that amount of security or you know, whatever they call it, if they call it intelligent too. It's so not intelligent, it's so stupid. It's no, there's no common sense behind it whatsoever. It's just like somebody sat in a in in they were trying to build this car and they go, oh, well, let's just make sure it stays in the lane. Oh, yeah, okay. Nobody thought, well, wait a minute, what if you have to what if you have to swerve? Maybe a pothole. Swerve? Maybe squirve. But what if you have to swerve away like there's a pothole there? Right? But it's it there's no intelligence behind it at all. Well, you only did zero content.

SPEAKER_00 30:29

I'm like burping now, sorry about that, guys. So you said one microphones. You burned one. So you give me one example. What else?

SPEAKER_03 30:38

I give you a bunch. A squirrel, a dog, a cat, a pothole. A tree limb. I mean, you but then you can give me a hundred things right now that I would have to swerve out of the way for. But car in front of me having an accident?

SPEAKER_00 30:53

Well, a car in front of me it beeps, so it lets you know that.

SPEAKER_03 30:56

No, no, but what if a car in front of me has an accident? They slam into somebody, I'm trying to get around them, so I don't have I don't hit that car. I have to swerve. But it won't let you swerve. It pulls you back into the limb.

SPEAKER_00 31:07

Well, you can, you can, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 31:09

But I I don't need that. I don't need a car to drive me, and I don't need a car to tell me how to drive it. I don't need a car to make sure I'm safe.

SPEAKER_00 31:17

Okay, see, the anger is coming out like his dad.

SPEAKER_03 31:20

I can't believe well, it just it it's just insane to me that people actually need all this stuff to drive. Like, I would never buy a car like that again. If I knew that car had all that bullshit on it, we wouldn't have bought it. Absolutely wouldn't have bought it. And it's funny because you can't just turn it off and leave it off. You have to turn it off every time you start the car. So I have to start the car, then I have to stop the stupid engine cutoff at the end of the street when you stop at a stop sign or a stoplight. You have to stop that from shutting the engine off every single time you stop. Which again, thank you, Congress people, for being that idiotic to make that a real thing in our vehicles, bunch of idiots. And then then I've got to push another button for five seconds to turn off all this quote unquote safety features. Just anyway, I'm on a rant. I could keep going, but I'll stop.

SPEAKER_00 32:17

I know, I know you're making my blood pressure rise. Is this how it's gonna be in the cabin in the woods? If I don't come back, guys, you're gonna have to start looking for me. Well, she doesn't try to drive for me, like a Gabby Potito thing.

SPEAKER_03 32:29

Don't grab the steering wheel from me. I'm good.

SPEAKER_00 32:31

I mean, he thinks like he's uh Alexa spying on us. He covers his webcam on his computer because he doesn't. Yeah, he he thinks there's people listening to us, and I'm like, why would they care about us? Like, are we that interesting?

SPEAKER_03 32:45

See, that's that's the argument that absolutely makes zero sense whatsoever if you think deeply into that. Like, oh well, I'm not doing anything wrong. Why should anybody care about me? You just lost your freedom of autonomy because you don't think anybody cares about you and watching you, but you're gonna give away that freedom. Like, I have the freedom to be alone and not be watched. The government shouldn't be spying on me, but you give it up by saying, Oh, well, I'm not if I'm not doing anything wrong, then I don't care if they're spying on me. Like, how insane is that? It's like free speech, like, oh, if I'm not saying anything you know controversial, then I don't care if I have free speech or not. That's think about it, it's just insane. It's just insane. You need free speech. You might say something, you might do something the government doesn't like. You might, right? Who knows? But to say that I'm not doing anything, so I don't care if the government's watching me or not, that's just total insanity.

SPEAKER_00 33:45

You can say bullshit.

SPEAKER_03 33:46

I know, I always say bullshit again.

SPEAKER_00 33:47

And he burped a little bit too.

SPEAKER_03 33:52

I love this woman, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:56

She points out all my faults.

SPEAKER_03 33:57

You know, I mean builds up my self-confidence. No self-confidence.

SPEAKER_00 34:01

No, I do build up your self-confidence.

SPEAKER_03 34:03

No, she does.

SPEAKER_00 34:04

I I just know your little, like, you know.

SPEAKER_01 34:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 34:08

She knows my buttons.

SPEAKER_00 34:09

I know the buttons. Yeah. Speaking of buttons, um, we I just recently saw Tommy Nichols. He's the blue-collar voice, he's got his own podcast. He's up in the northern part of Santa Rosa County. We saw him recently had a stroke, and we went to his fish fry, and and he's um he's all about politics, so he likes to talk about politics. He's behind certain candidates. He's he's his family's really well known in the the county. And um, we invited him to be on the show, so I said that I would step aside and let David and Tommy talk politics.

SPEAKER_01 34:41

Nice.

SPEAKER_00 34:42

And so he's looking forward to it. I think he's ready to go. He's he's had some issues with the stroke as far as talking and getting his speech back.

SPEAKER_03 34:50

But uh he's working on it, he's gotten a lot better. It's it's I'm very proud of him. He's really, really focused on his recovery.

SPEAKER_00 34:58

And it's and he told me he told me he's ready to go. And matter of fact, he He's a young guy, too. Young guy.

SPEAKER_03 35:04

Yeah, he just I say young, I'm in my 60s.

SPEAKER_00 35:08

He's young. I mean, he's probably in his 30s. Probably in his thirties. Yeah. And he uh he even posted on his Facebook that he's gonna come on our show. So in the next uh week or two, we'll have him on and let you guys just destroy the whole political uh scene of Santa Rosa County, and you kind of you know, you yeah, I'll let I'll let you guys, you know, get that all out of in the open and stuff. So that's all good. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:34

Yeah, but he's uh he's a really good guy. He's uh very he he's got a good mind uh when it comes to local politics, and that's really what what we're talking about is uh uh Santa Rosa County here in Florida, and um local and local politics, city and and county politics. So he's from a little town called Chamakla.

SPEAKER_00 35:56

Chamakla. And it's uh his dad's really cool, he's a chief.

SPEAKER_03 36:00

Dad was a chief, uh Indian chief, and uh so yeah, it's gonna be good. So, Tom, if you're watching, can't wait to see you, bud. Yeah, we'll get you on next week when we get back.

SPEAKER_00 36:10

Yeah, how about that? Well, that being said, I think it's time to wrap it up and uh drink more champagne and pack. We have to pack. We're last minute packers. Yeah, yeah, we are. And that car that you said you hate so much is the car we're driving up into the mountains. So hopefully she'll get us up there.

SPEAKER_03 36:28

She'll get us up there.

SPEAKER_00 36:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 36:30

I just hate hitting all the damn buttons before I can.

SPEAKER_00 36:34

Well, we could take your 2007 Lexus.

SPEAKER_03 36:37

Nah, that'd be like three tanks of gas to get up there and back on the internet, Lexus.

SPEAKER_00 36:42

Yeah. But we're glad that you guys joined us tonight. Um, we'll be back next week with other topics.

SPEAKER_03 36:49

And I won't bitch. I can't promise you that.

SPEAKER_00 36:54

I can't promise you that. But if you enjoyed our show, please follow us, share, like, send uh subscribe, whatever you got. Subscribe, whatever you gotta do. We're building us a check. Yeah. Joe Rogan, we're still working on you. Yeah, we're up to 319 followers on Facebook. So I guess apparently we're saying something, right? Yeah. But I mean, he did a one post on Facebook and now he's got like almost 4,500 followers. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_03 37:19

I am done a few posts on Facebook that have gotten a lot of.

SPEAKER_00 37:23

Yeah, well, yeah, I know because you want every two minutes, you're looking to see how many more people saw it. I did not. You do you're you're always on Facebook seeing your looking at your videos and your algorithms.

SPEAKER_03 37:32

People do like all kinds of social media and stuff. Facebook to me is like the easiest one. I do Instagram too sometimes, but mostly Facebook because it's just easy. But people do TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, LinkedIn. I mean, I just can't keep up with all well.

SPEAKER_00 37:48

Usually they pick one. I mean, according to my business, yeah, my business coach, they say that you pick one. I'm trying to stick to YouTube. And I mean Yeah, YouTube's another one. I mean, I try to do TikTok, but I mean you've got to be consistent. You gotta do videos all the time. And I feel like that's just sometimes it's just overkill. Like nobody needs to know what I'm eating, when I work out, what I'm wearing today, uh, you know, all my activities throughout the day. I think that's overkill, but uh some people like to watch people, I guess. I don't know. I don't think I'm that fascinating. I'm not a Kardashian. You are I'm just saying like so um upload to you. Yeah, right. Whatever you use. So I use your toothpaste and sometimes your toothbrush.

SPEAKER_03 38:36

I know because she takes it out of the shower in the morning. We should have to get out of the shooting.

SPEAKER_00 38:40

Now we now Ray knows that we brush our teeth in the shower.

SPEAKER_03 38:43

I never used to do that until I met her, and I realized I was in the shower one time and she had toothpaste in the shower, and I'm like, why would you do that? And then I tried it one time. I was like, this is killer. I will always brush my teeth in the shower because you don't have to lean over the sink, it just falls on the ground, or the foam or whatever, and then you just spit it out.

SPEAKER_00 39:06

Yeah, and you don't have to clean the toothpaste off the mirror.

SPEAKER_03 39:09

I know, yeah. I mean, I do have brilliant.

SPEAKER_00 39:11

I never thought I do have little moments of brilliancy, yeah. Yeah, so that was one of them.

SPEAKER_03 39:16

That definitely one of them.

SPEAKER_00 39:17

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 39:17

Now everybody knows our secret.

SPEAKER_00 39:19

Yeah, chairs to toothpaste brushing your teeth in the shower, anyways. Yeah, so now if you guys decide to brush your teeth in the shower, you'll buy it and don't think us for it. Post it, post it in the comments.

SPEAKER_03 39:35

Put in the comments. I tried it and I love it.

SPEAKER_00 39:37

Yeah, there you go.

SPEAKER_03 39:39

It's the only way to go.

SPEAKER_00 39:40

Cheers. We'll see you next week if we come back from the trip.

SPEAKER_03 39:45

One thing you have to watch out for though, guys, you you don't want the toothpaste, if especially if you got like the really minty toothpaste, you don't want it to fall on your private side. So you kind of have to lean over a little bit. Um, because it yeah, it's like icy hot on your wiener.

SPEAKER_00 40:04

Okay. Cheers.

SPEAKER_03 40:06

So this is not a family show, guys. See you next week. Love this week. I love you. Happy anniversary. Happy anniversary.

SPEAKER_00 40:21

Oh, that's good. So I made another one. I'll make more.