The Secret to Growth: Taking Care of Your Team

What if the key to growing your business wasn’t working harder, but learning how to let go?

In this episode of the We Attitude Podcast, David Brosseau sits down with longtime friend and business owner Scott to unpack what it really takes to build something that lasts.

From a CPA buying an auto shop with zero mechanical experience to building a business that services over 1,000 cars a month, this conversation is packed with real lessons on leadership, trust, and getting out of your own way.

They dive into why most entrepreneurs hit a ceiling, how culture beats competition, and why taking care of your people might be the most profitable decision you can make.

If you’re building a business, leading a team, or trying to grow without burning out, this one hits.

What you will learn
 - Why you don’t need to be the expert to build a successful business
 - The real reason most people never scale
 - How to create a culture people never want to leave
 - Why working more hours is not the answer to growth
 - The power of trust, transparency, and long-term thinking
 - How to balance business success with real life

Big takeaway
 You are not in the business you think you are.
 You are in the people business—everything else is just the product.

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 What is one thing you’re holding onto that you know you should delegate?

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Chapters

00:00 Intro and how they met
00:04 The unexpected you need new tires moment
01:52 Scott’s story from CPA roots to auto shop legacy
02:39 You are in the people business
03:29 Why you cannot do it alone
04:52 Building a business without technical expertise
06:04 Surrounding yourself with the right people
09:25 Hiring and retaining great talent
10:34 Building a culture people stay for
12:19 Why they chose not to work weekends
13:25 The trade offs of ownership
14:48 Competing without working more hours
15:12 Integrity and trust in business
17:23 Creating a customer experience people remember
19:24 Building a reputation in your community
20:23 Generational clients and long term relationships
22:19 Prioritizing people over profit
22:44 Why more volume is not always better
25:15 Building a team that stays for decades
26:41 Leadership roles and structure
28:27 Getting out of your own way
29:22 Still learning after 35 years
30:17 Adapting to change in business
31:47 Closing thoughts

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:04

Hey, welcome back to the Weattitude Podcast. I am joined this week by one of my very best friends. Actually, probably um you're probably one of the first person I met outside of I guess my business circle at the time when I moved to St. Louis. And it's funny how we met. I don't know if you remember, but you you essentially so you're gonna get going. This is a strange story. So uh right, I used to play hockey and I joined this group of people to skate with and on Tuesday mornings, and Scott and I walked out of the ring together. We used to skate at 6:30, and Scott and I walked out. I didn't really know Scott, I knew he owned an uh auto shop of sort, but was you probably didn't know many people. No, I did not. And uh and um anyway, as we walk out, we happened to be parked right next to each other. And uh right there and then Scott says, Hey, you should stop by the shop. I think you need new tires.

SPEAKER_01 1:12

So did you know that you just ate the deal to play for OB Clark?

SPEAKER_00 1:18

That's right. So so uh Clark is the ultimate uh uh I mean Scott is the ultimate uh lead lead generator, right? Like it there's no no one's off limit, doesn't matter what time it is. It was about eight o'clock in the morning, it was foggy, say, just so you you you should stop by the shop and you need new tires. So so anyway, so before we dive into it, so why don't we start there? Like tell tell me a little tell us a little bit about your your shop, what you do, how long you've been there, and and what's your world like?

SPEAKER_01 1:48

So um my father started Combs Tire uh 40 years ago. We are in our 40th year. Well, we just finished our 40th year. So uh he was uh a CPA and accountant by trade, and uh when that career kind of ran its course after 25-30 years of being an accountant, well, I guess you're always an accountant, he wanted to do something for himself, right? So he bought into an existing business, it was Clark Tire and Auto. Uh a few years later he bought Herschel out, he bought Mr. Clark out, and then it became Combs Tire and Auto. As a businessman and an accountant, owning an auto repair center became a little bit challenging.

SPEAKER_00 2:29

So this is cool. This is this is the coolest thing about your story, I think, is for us in real estate, a lot of times uh people get hung up like hey, these are my clients, no one can do it as good as me. Like, I'm not hiring anybody, I'm not leveraging anything. Um, and then a lot of times people are like, you know, the the phone ring, they're like, Yeah, sure, I'll go do this, and and I want to walk through this, and and it's you know, I remember the first time when I got here sitting with you and your dad in your office, and and just get an understanding of how you guys build this and and and where you are and all this stuff. Because I I I'm a firm believer, like like you're I feel like you're in the people business and your product is the car. Correct. I feel like I'm in the people business and our product is real estate. So I feel like um we do a lot of similar things to an extent, right? And and and I'm a firm believer nobody can do it themselves despite what people think and despite how good people think they are. Like it just there's a ceiling at some point that you you just there's only 24 hours in the day. So I want to go back to the fact that your father is a CPA by trade launching an auto mechanic business.

SPEAKER_01 3:39

Like did he did he have any knowledge of oil change and brake pads and no, no, no, no, but what he did have was the knowledge to understand that getting involved in auto repair and car repair, tires, brakes, it's something that will always be needed. Right. There will always be a demand for someone to be able to fix your car. Probably the same way in real estate. Somebody's gonna be there, somebody's gonna you can do it yourself. I guess right, it can be done. But it's tricky, it's complicated, uh more complicated. You you don't want to get burned, right? So you have to trust somebody who understands that industry, yeah, whether it's real estate, whether it's cars, yeah, insurance, whatever it might be. So with that knowledge that this business could be something long-term, right, sustainable, he jumped in with both feet.

SPEAKER_00 4:40

With the understanding that so how did like I'm assuming his first hire had to be a mechanic. I mean, he had to find someone that knew how to do the car part if he was gonna focus on the numbers part, right? Yes.

SPEAKER_01 4:54

Uh however, a a little bit of a twist there, it wasn't an existing auto repair center. True. So there was staff currently there. Just like with any new owner, uh, it may not be the perfect fit, right? Sure. But it was built in. So you run with that and then you evaluate, and then you you make your changes, right? And and and that was a slow burn for him because he didn't have that knowledge on the on the car side, right? He certainly understood the number side of it, he understood the business side of it, uh, and then he had to marry those two together. Um but you're right, to that end, once you do get a feel for what's going on inside your business, then you the wheels, no, pun intended, start start pun intended start turning. And you make the decisions that are best for your business. Yeah. You find the right person, and mechanic was probably uh one of the most important things that you can decide on uh because they're your front lines, uh along with your your your service manager who's on the other end of the phone or standing there at the counter on the day-to-day. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:06

So so um how long, like when did you join the the the company?

SPEAKER_01 6:12

Like you I know you went to college here, so yeah, I was local, so I stayed uh here for college. Uh he bought the place in October of 85. I was in high school. Did I moonlight there in high school? Yes. Sure. Did I moonlight there in college? A little bit. I I was more in the way than anything. So I actually believed that. He paid me a few bucks. Yeah. It worked. Your dad was like, man, I can't wait for school to start. This kid's gotta go. But my dad was he's he's a self-starter and he and he taught me to be that way. It took me a while to to to to to crest that hill, but when I was just about to graduate, six months before I was about to graduate, he looked at me and he said, What's the plan? I said, What do you mean the plan? I got I got six months. I'm I'm still in school. I got that. He's like, Okay, I'm gonna round up a bunch of my buddies and we're gonna find you a job. And I was like, fabulous, right? Yeah. So he got me three or four or five interviews, and I started out with a sporting news right out of college. So he had me a job. It was a great job. I got to meet all these cool sporting people, uh, Michael Jordan, uh, Nolan Ryan, Wayne Gretzky. It was for a sports kid, it was awesome, right? Well, I mean, they're your average athletes. Yeah, they're they're pretty good. Two years later, that that came to an end, and I was outside looking in, and he said, You've had some business experience, a little bit, a couple years worth. Come in, try the family business. Just try it. Well, that was 35 years ago. And here we are. And here we are. So um now, what was your your knowledge of cars at the time? Oh, zero, zero. Still, still, so through osmosis, being there for 30 years, five-ish years, you learn a lot. Yeah, you learn a little bit about brakes and and ball joints and uh catalytic converters, tires I can talk all day about. Yeah, um, yeah, well aware. You're I I saw your car on the way in. Tony, yours too. Uh I'll leave you my card on the way out. It's it's again, and we talked a little bit about this prior to us starting the show. You have to surround yourself with the right people because I can't I can't do that. I have other responsibilities, I have other duties. Yeah. Uh my wife is constantly reminding me that that was not my job. Right. Right and and I don't have this special skill set that that these people can bring, right? The service manager understands how a combustion engine works. Yeah. Yeah. I do not. Oh yeah. I can't. I see the pistons moving, you know, and I'm but I don't really get it, okay? So we have to put people in place, and we do, and they're very good at what they do, along with the technicians, along with the guy just changing oil, right? His job is uber important. Yeah. It's hard to run a car without proper oil.

SPEAKER_00 9:16

Put the oil in it. Yeah. Right? Make sure the caps on. So so this is this is so cool to me. So, like, um like the other thing that I find fascinating about your world is the fact that I'm gonna assume this here, but but I I would assume there's a high turnover in your industry from one shop to the other, right? Like, retaining uh quality and talented people is is probably a challenge within the industry as a whole. Is that a fair? Absolutely. Okay, so so I've been going there, I mean, since you know, 2008 when you sold those tires to me in the parking lot at Kirkwood. Uh I just needed you for your backhand. Yeah, it's right. So so what is that? Like uh 12 years, yeah. So so so um, and and I mean I I get I get greeted by the same people, like I see a lot of the same people. So, so what have you created from an environment perspective that has allowed you to have such stability within your world that is so different than the rest of your industry?

SPEAKER_01 10:24

Yeah, yeah. So very complicated but very simple at the same time. Yeah. You uh at the top of the list, and my parents taught me this treat people with respect. Um you gotta walk the walk, not just talk the talk. If somebody's sick, if somebody's kid is sick, stay home. Yeah, right? Um we don't work weekends, a lot of shops are open Saturday, some shops are even on Sunday, okay? Um it is simple. We pay a hundred percent of our employees' health care. No one does that. Yeah, no one does that. Okay. Um like I said, you pay you you treat them with respect, if they need help, you help them. Um we have a lot of advantages. The healthcare is a big part of it, the weekends off is a big part of it. Um yeah, it it it it's it's very simple at the end of the day. We have one location. I don't have 50 locations, we have one, and if we can do that very well, yeah, you're gonna see the same faces, you're gonna continue to see the same people because they know that this is where they're supposed to be.

SPEAKER_00 11:35

So, so I want to emphasize the the weekend thing because like our industry, a lot of people feel and think that you you are you constantly and to an extent to to our defense in real estate, like you do have to accommodate your your average you know, client, like buyers, sellers, and all this is on any given time. Everybody has different circumstances and all this stuff. And I've seen a lot of agents being very successful in establishing their own schedule and timelines and all this stuff, and really taking control of their own business. Like your if we go back, let's say like 30 years, like 25 or 30 years, your world was pretty much a standard Monday through Friday nine to five kind of thing, right? And then correct. And then and then as as the world changed a little bit, then then you've you've you start seeing like dealers opening up on Saturday mornings, and and you start seeing like other like things popping on Sundays and all this stuff. So so from a competitive perspective, right? Like a lot of times when business people talk about value and competitiveness and all this stuff, like what's your edge? What's your like was there any time where you and your dad sit down and and say, hey, do we do we need to stay open until 7? Do we need to start doing a Saturday morning thing? Like, how did you kind of counter what the the industry trend was becoming? Well, really, like if you dig hard enough, you can probably find a place seven days a week now. I would say 100%. And and you've you've never budged on that, like you were like, hey, we're here at 8, we're done at 5, and that's all there is to it.

SPEAKER_01 13:11

Yes, and and very good. It is interesting. We were open on Saturday at one point. Okay. Early in my career, we were open on Saturday. And 35 years ago, if you called me at seven o'clock at night, I used to get really annoyed. Right. And I'd be like, why are you why I'm not working? Yeah, don't call me. Yeah. Well, talk, that's that's so very wrong. That's just the wrong attitude. I mean, everybody needs their personal space and their personal time with their family, right? I can let it go to voicemail and answer it later, right? Yeah, but ultimately we made a decision to close on Saturdays because selfishly, did we want the time? Sure. Yeah, but so do our employees. They've got kids, they want to go to the soccer game, they want to go to their basketball game, they want to go on a camping trip, whatever it is, right? Um so we made that decision, that hard decision, to give up Saturday again as a benefit to our employees and a benefit to us. And as I grew in the business and understood what it truly meant to be an owner in this business, you take calls in the evening because you're not there Saturday, because you're not there Sunday, right? So you give up a little bit for Saturday and Sunday, but you might have to take a call during the week that that normally you wouldn't, right? Or a friend calls and he's like, hey, I got a flat. Okay, let's get you a tow truck, whatever. I may or may not have been there, friend. So no, but but the but that's interesting that you bring that up because being closed on Saturdays, you've got to find a way to differentiate yourself. Yeah. Because you're you're the the competition is going hard. Sure. Okay. Um I use it against you. 100%. Because when they see you're sticking, like, ah, yeah. They're not even there. So we shuttle. We have a shuttle service, a convenience shuttle service that that again allows somebody who's working to be able to continue their day um to and from. We shuttle. So so again, there's little things that you can do to set yourself apart, shuttle service, take calls on the weekend. But the most important thing is, and this is truly the most important thing, yeah, is is the staff that you have and your integrity and your honesty in our line of work, your line of work, you need to be transparent, you need to be a hundred percent upfront. If you screw something up, own it, fix it. The customer respects that. Yeah, they don't care that you're only there Monday through Friday, 7:30 to 5. Yeah. They do not care. They're coming to you for one reason only. They know you're gonna do the right thing.

SPEAKER_00 15:46

Yeah, and it's interesting you say that because you're right. Like, like, you know, we could debate until the cows come home which industry has the worst reputation probably. And it's funny because it's I think you and I are really awesome guys. Like right? You're okay. So but here's here's my point. Like, how many times you hear this, like mechanics, this, that, and the other, right? And and I'll I'll just say, like, I mean, my I mean, my son comes to you, I know the girls have stopped by, like, I would because of what you're saying, because of you know, when you walk in, how you're greeted, how you the the the there is such a there is such a and because people everybody knows how to drive a car, but very few people actually know anything about a car, especially now. Like I feel like you're buying a computer on wheels, right? Like it's it's it's kind of so so you know, I mean, I'm one that is definitely not handy. Like if when I was younger, if if my car started making noise, I just turn up the volume. It'll be all right, it'll go. What if I go at some point? And then my dad's like, uh, did you hear this? I'm like, Yeah, just here, did you hear that? And and it was good. So, but but you don't know where to go, like you don't know what's wrong, you don't know if you're gonna get screwed, you don't know. So I'm like, so so there's I think that's the biggest part. It the intangible that you offer is right, is what I'm describing. I think it's like you walk in, there's a level of trust that instantly feels like, all right, this guy's got me, and and I can trust this, right? Right, and and I think that's part of what allows you not to worry about nights and weekends, essentially, right? Absolutely, and you're right.

SPEAKER_01 17:30

Every industry is a little different. I think of the restaurant industry, right? You go in, you sit down, nobody comes over for five, ten minutes, and you're like, what's going on, right? Can I can I just get a glass of water and maybe somebody will maybe a menu, right? Same way in our game, right? It's like people just want when they come through the door, yeah, they want the their car is probably broken. Yeah. And they know it's gonna be expensive. Yeah. What a horrible feeling. Yeah. So get your head up out of your computer, look them in the eye, greet them, and try to calm their nerves. It's gonna be okay. Yeah. It's gonna be yes, it may be a thousand dollars. I don't know what your water pump's gonna cost. It's leaking, we gotta replace it, right? And so it it it's a human game, it there's a human element to it. And if you can eliminate their frustrations, um they're just just taking that high anxiety high anxiety down a level, right, changes their world, right? And they know that it's gonna be okay. Yeah. So that's where we are.

SPEAKER_00 18:41

I need to address this too, like um I I've been out with you in Kirkwood proper, right? Um, and I probably should describe Kirkwood for all the international listeners we have here.

SPEAKER_01 18:56

The blue blank and rouge in the room.

SPEAKER_00 19:00

So, anyway, so Kirkwood is what, about 30,000 people? Like this is like this is like your your area. And I go out there with you early on, and it's literally like you're the mayor. Like, you know, I mean, we would sit have a beer like this at a table like this, and it wouldn't be crazy to have six, eight, ten people stopping by, and they've been your customer or your dad's customer for a very long time. And I think you're you're kind of like a a car doctor from the perspective that now you have like generational customers. Oh, absolutely. Does that make sense? Yeah, we do. So so talk to me about your your and and everywhere we go, you usually have either a t-shirt or a golf. Like you're you're branded, right? Like you're you're branded. So talk to me about your your like what that means to you. Like because you I feel like you're one of the few people I know that you're always going out almost on purpose or with a purpose.

SPEAKER_01 19:58

Yeah, yeah. I I try to avoid the grocery store. That's a tricky one. Yeah. Because I need to get in, I need to get out, and I and it's like, okay, yeah, we're looking at pasta, and I'm talking about the blues game from last night. So but you're right. It it's wonderful. My dad started this, uh, mom and dad started this, and now I've taken it over. My wife and my son are very involved. Um local prisoners at the local parish, played a ton of hockey with a ton of different people on numerous different teams, and then you work retail. Yeah, and and that's the bulk of it, is you're working retail. And so you see a lot of people uh and and from 40 years ago it is generational. We are now seeing the young kids that were coming in at 16, yeah, are now 40 plus, 50 plus, and they're you know, their teenagers are coming in. And it it's a testament to when my dad started and and and how we continue to grow that part of the business. Um and it's exciting. And I do go out and uh it's fun at a bar to see people, you know, old friends that you know, and and and and they don't just come over and say hello, just say hello. It's very genuine. Yeah. Um, so it it um sometimes it can be a little tricky, but most times it's wonderful, for sure.

SPEAKER_00 21:22

No, I I mean it's it's a it's a it's a testament to what you guys have built and developed, and it's it's um it's I would imagine your customers here have to be similar, right?

SPEAKER_01 21:33

I mean your your agents have been doing this a while, right? And it's I hope I hope they experience three. Yeah, for sure, for sure. Right? I was here yesterday. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I walked in the building, yeah. Some lady, I don't know. Hey, congratulations. Yeah, that's buying or selling. That's right. She didn't know. That's right. She had no idea. I was like, what? Oh, yeah, thank you.

SPEAKER_00 21:54

Yeah, it's awesome.

SPEAKER_01 21:55

Yeah, it was it was it was refreshing.

SPEAKER_00 21:58

Yeah. Um, all right. So, not to get specific, but I want to emphasize the fact that there's a lot of competition in your world and a lot of right and you've made a conscious decision, and I'm going to say it this way, from a cultural perspective, to say, hey, our people here are going to work their butt off from Monday through Friday, but nights and weekends are going to be about their families, right? So has that affected business at all? Like, like how many cars roll through your your shop on a monthly basis?

SPEAKER_01 22:27

Certainly, certainly it affects us. Um we'll see 40 to 50 cars a day, so you can do that math.

SPEAKER_00 22:34

Um and so that's about a thousand cars a month. Yeah, about a thousand cars a month. Okay, yeah. But my point is, so you get about a thousand cars a month comes through the shop. That's pretend that's for conversation's sake, you say we'll do Saturday morning and and whatever. Like it's not like you would add another like you know what I mean. Like I feel like the the commitment to say to your people and that have been with you for so long, to say nights and weekends are yours, right? But we're gonna hustle the hell out of it during the week. Not at the expense of anybody, but we're gonna we're gonna right feels to me like it it it it's almost more valuable long term than just squeezing in another four hours on Sunday morning. I'm on Saturday morning.

SPEAKER_01 23:15

You put another 50 days into the queue, right? Right, you could add 250 cars a month. Yeah. I don't I so then you've got o overtime to pay. Yeah. Right, because everybody's already working solid 40. They don't want to be there. Right. Um a lot of times the parts houses are closed. Now that has changed a little bit. There are some big parts houses like the auto zones of the world. Yeah. But some of the some of their parts we won't we won't put on our cars. Okay. You know, so so it's a quality issue. Uh sorry, auto zone. Um you have some very good stuff as well. We'll welcome your sponsorship if you want to participate in it. But if you come in for something on a Saturday, and I've got to wait for I I can't get the park, I can't get the tire. So why bother? So it's gonna be Monday anyway. So so for me, that's the answer for our employees. I'm sure there are some that would love the hours and want the money. The majority of them, they come that they're here for that reason. They know there's gonna be a Monday through Friday.

SPEAKER_00 24:23

I was gonna say, I think based on the longevity of some of them that I've seen over the years, I mean, I'm I'm sure they certainly don't want it bad enough to go somewhere else. That's correct. Yeah, so so that's not chasing them up. That's what I'm saying. So so so that that's created a culture that that that that um I feel like prioritizes them, which then empowers them to prioritize your world. Absolutely. There's value there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:48

When you and I'm talking about the the value of you know just just your time, yeah, right, your personal time, whether it's with your family, with your friends, whatever you're doing, that's yours, right? I don't think you can put a number on that time. No. Um, I think I think if you're trying to put a number on that time, I think I think you're doing it wrong. Um and and you're right, it is a testament to our staff who have been with us. We you know, we had a guy retire last year at 30 years, I got another guy at 30 years, I got a couple guys at 25 years. Um That's unusual. So so I think that's very unusual in that industry, right? That's not that's not a common thing. Because our industry is tricky, right? A lot like your industry, in that there's a small pool of people. I think your pool's probably bigger than ours. Ours is that skilled trade that you know, to to work on cars, to to have the money to afford the tools to work on cars, it's a small pool of people. So in in thinking about that, in order to keep those people is paramount. Yeah. Because they they know their craft, they're good at what they do, they've invested the money, and now take your time. Right. Take your time and go do what you want to do. And uh yeah, I I I think you know, I'm I'm not an accountant in some room looking at a bottom line saying to myself, This I need more. We need more. What's going on? Right. You can't do it. It's just you'll you'd go crazy. Right. And it's wrong, it's just wrong. Right. These guys are hustling. If we're all doing our job, we're all hustling, we're all gonna come out okay.

SPEAKER_00 26:26

Everybody's getting taken care of. Correct. Yeah. So um, all right, I just want to kind of go back. So your your dad bought the business, started this. How many times do you feel throughout the journey that I'm gonna call it the two sides, so like the the front of the house and the back of the house kind of kind of you know collided, if you will, where you're like, you you you or do you have someone running the back, you run the front, and then everybody stay happy. Yeah, it's it's it's more split.

SPEAKER_01 26:58

Yeah. I I'm kind of back of the house and and and a little bit of the front of the house with the with the what I would consider my management team, my writers, right? So it's it's my writers and myself, and then all the accounting and all the marketing and all that behind the scenes stuff. Um, and I count on my my lead guys, my lead uh service manager guys to handle the back of the house. Usually that works out wonderfully. Every now and then you've got to step in and sure and figure out what's going on and and and help make some decisions. But most of the time that's how we break it out. Yeah. Um but the worlds intersect a lot, very often, daily. Um but if you have the right people in place, right? If your staff is right, then they should be handling their situations and and so on and so on. If it if it gets together, and then you get updated. Yeah, I get updated, and if it gets to me and they're like, hey, we need to sit down, then we sit down. Yeah. Uh it doesn't happen often. Yeah. But it but yeah, yeah, occasionally. Work and work in detail, it happens.

SPEAKER_00 28:02

That's right. I I just I I cannot stride this enough. I've shared your story so many times. Like, it's such a cool thing from not just the success you've created for yourself and your family and the people that work for you, but just the fact that you know, to this day you're not necessarily a car specialist, but you've you've bought into the concept hey, I can run all of this, but I need people that are really good at this, that, and the other. And you never let your ego get in the way, and you know, a thousand cars a month later, life is good. That's right. You know what I mean? And that's so many people could if if they hadn't the thought of getting themselves getting out of their own way and embracing a concept of hey, we probably can do this better together than I can on my own, their life would change like overnight. Overnight. And I'm still learning.

SPEAKER_01 28:57

Sure. My wife and I talk about this all the time. She's like, you're still wearing some wrong hats. Yeah. And I'm I'm slow in my ways. Sure. And and so even today, 35 years later, we're we're working on me doing some some less things around the shop. But it's because somebody else should could and should be and is better at it than me. And and so I'm sure it's the same way with you. Sometimes it's like I'm just gonna take care of this. Yeah. When it should be somebody else. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:29

But but I don't think there's a I don't think there's a I think I think when that no longer happens, it's probably when you know somebody else is taking it over. Correct. There's always gonna be things. I mean, at the end of the day, it's your world, it's your, you know what I mean? Like you you get to step wherever you want. But I think having the awareness to say, all right, I get it, it's not my hat, you know, like that's just a sign of of emotional intelligence and growth that you're like, all right, cool, you go do it. And the the amount of change to that has occurred within your own world. Like, I don't, I mean, I remember, I mean, my first, well, my first car needed a lot of help, but I'm just saying, like, I don't remember like pulling my first car or second car into a shop where all these computers were coming in to to put a diagnostic on the car itself, right? It was it was manually and and looking at it and all this stuff and visually listening, visually, and and then there was a uh all right, there's what we are kind of thing, but there's been so many changes that you had to adapt, that your team had to adapt, and then yeah, people resist and fight change all the time. I mean, think of if you didn't have computers in your shop right now, like well, that's a quick story.

SPEAKER_01 30:43

We all cars used to be carbureted, right? Yeah, and then and then this direct fuel injection came about. Right. Okay. My dad said to me, he said, What are we gonna do? This is the worst thing ever. Fast forward, direct fuel injection is probably one of the best things that ever happened in our industry, right? I know. And so, yes, along the way, you figure things out, yeah, you wear different hats, you say to yourself, okay, this needs to be delegated over here, this will be better over here. And and and when you stop learning, we've been doing this a long time. When you stop learning, you're I don't I you're doing it wrong. Yeah. Um, even to this day, this week we were talking about some of these things. So it is important to adapt and to keep adjusting and to understand your lane and try to stay in it. Yeah, amen. Amen. I love you, brother. Love you too. I just want to clear up one thing about that story when we first met. I remember it a little differently. I remember approaching you, I think you had eight or nine goals in that little session, and and I and I stalked you out to your car to make sure you knew that OB Clarks was gonna be your next team. That's right. I don't remember the set of tires. Yeah. Was there a set of tires? Yeah, there sure was. Okay, but I I I I uh upset. I remember signing with OB Clarks. And uh I only did that with one other player, Jamie Compon, if you're out there. Uh those are my two high pick. That's a number one, those are number one overalls.

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Yeah. Uh Scotty and I have been to Obi Clarks and have one beer, just one, many Thursday nights. Shigar wings. All right, we're gonna end before uh getting myself in trouble. Thank you, people. Have a good one. Thanks for having me. I love you, man. We love you too.