Topic: Penn & Teller Get Killed CoHost: RT from Topher House

It’s April Fools Day and Topher Mac is joined by fellow Topher House member RT, the Southern Fried Sorcerer.  The duo gets along great and doesn’t say one mean or challenging thing!  …oh wait, April Fools!!  They actually bicker a lot, but we think it’s a fun listen at least. 

 The movie discussed is the rarely mentioned feature film debut of the beloved Magic duo Penn and Teller: Penn & Teller Get Killed.  

Special thanks to JPE John Paul Edmundson for his fun and creative opening audio.  

Transcript

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You're watching Shadows the Shrine. A movie podcast. Starring Tovermark. And he will find you. And he will be starring on this podcast.

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Oh my goodness. That was John Paul Edmondson. He um he was nice enough to send some some what we call bumpers. And because it's April 1st, I wanted to start off with the one I found funniest. Um I'm gonna be pepping them out, uh peppering them in through episodes moving forward. Um it was very kind of him to do. I think you guys should follow him on social media and say, man, Shadows That Shine sent us here. Or, you know, don't. Well, I mean, follow him. Do that. You just don't have to tell me you did it because of me. Just follow him. Dude's funny. It's not a wasted follow. All right, I'm Tover Mac, and it is April Fool's Day, April 1st. That's right. What great timing this year to have started my podcast and to get two Friday the 13th right off the bat. Speaking of John Paul Edmondson, he has co-hosted though uh he was my guest co-host for both of those Friday 13th specials. Okay. And then on top of that, now I get April 1st as one of my regular release dates. I mean, come on. Come on. It's going oh so nice in terms of release dates. Famo. And Shadows that shine, a movie podcast. Uh, we got some something special for you here today. A movie that you probably never heard of, and a guest co-host that you might have heard of. Ladies and gentlemen, listen to him. It's my buddy, the Southern Fried Sorcerer. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome from Topher House RT. Hello, how y'all doing? What's up? Man, I I heard that you're gonna be doing something weird and funky for your very first April Fool's Day edition of Shadows That Shine. And I said, shine me up. You know, when yes, I do know. I don't mean to cut you off there, but um, we are covering uh to get ahead of everything. I'm I'm trying some stuff out today with the format, so bear with me, folks. Um Shadows That Shine is gonna be this episode. That's what it is. Whew! Gotta stay on task, stay on task now, buddy. You know, they don't like it when you be fluttering around with your A's and your D's and your H's and your D's. You know what I'm saying? Yes, I know what you're saying. Jeez. Um, yeah, uh like I was saying, um, we're covering a movie that was written by Penn and Teller called Pen and Teller Get Killed. Alright, we're gonna get into the that's that is our deep dive for today's episode. I said that I was gonna look for a comedy, and this is uh a dark comedy, and funny enough, it is also a movie uh that is perfect for April Fool's Day because it is prank city. But we're gonna get into that a wee bit later. That's right, just a wee bitty bit later, because I know that you, Tophermac, are ready to bore the bejesus out of everybody with the box office. Look, man, I don't care what you say. You think you can say that it's pouring as much as you want, man. I like it, I'm interested in it, that's why I do it. I man, it's up to you now. I'm not here to judge. I am here to talk about a Magique movie.

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What did you say?

SPEAKER_01 4:00

Magic. That's right. I'll tell you what. Yeah, bo. All right. Well, you know what? Let's go ahead and stop here for just a moment, and then when we get back, uh, we're gonna do the uh the the the the the the box office results for the weekend. Um thank you guys for tuning in. I hope you guys are gonna enjoy this uh rather unusual episode. I'm Topher Mack. And I'm the Southern Fraud Sorcerer RT. That's right, that's who I am. Alright, uh, we're back. This is Shadows That Shine. How many friggin' times can I say that? Um it's been a weird day. It's April Fool's Day, and um also I did happen to notice that my facial hair is now long enough to interrupt, uh, I mean to interfere with the microphones. So I've done something that I hope addresses that issue and solves it, and hopefully we're uh we're golden now. Uh ooh, golden. Ooh, buddy. Golden. Are you talking about that fucking K-pop diamond hunter malarkey? That's exactly what I said. See, you get me. You get me. It's it's almost like we both uh are from Topher House. That's right, ladies and gentlemen. Uh my uh guest today is R.T. from Topher House. Topher House is the place on YouTube that you can watch the works of Topher Mac. You can watch the works of R.T. That's me, the Southern Fried Sorcerer. It's also where you can go and check out Yank. Yank likes to what does he do? I'm gonna be honest with you. Yank hasn't really given us anything new in a while. It's he he's kinda gone ghost on us. Well, I take ghost over the weird fucking one-liners that your boy uh Kali Toaf has been bringing in, because those are some unusual little jokes. Yeah. I like his humor, man. He's a he's a bit corny, you know. But whatever. Anyways, uh, so yeah, that's all Topher House stuff. Hey, let's get in this box office. What do you say? Well, uh I say this, dude. Just get it out of the way. Hey, man. Uh you know, a lot's been going on. Uh, just real quick, a lot of stuff's been going on in my life, and I am I did not do like full super duper breakdowns of the weekend, but I do have at least the results of the weekend. I just don't have each of the like total grosses for each of these movies. Um, so we're just gonna hammer through this real quick. Alright, then get to it. Come on now, buddy. Fuck you. Alright. Uh, winning the weekend was once again Project Hell Mary. Hey, that is a really good movie. It added 54.1 million to its total. What's the total? I don't know. Give me a break. Time, uh not as much time this week that I would have needed to do things. So give me a fucking break. Uh, but hey, that's Amazon MGM Studios that gave us Project Hell Mary. It is a must-watch, in my opinion. I highly recommend it. Uh, I almost covered that this weekend because um I don't know. Did I tell you this? Did you tell me or what? Did I tell you that we're gonna do um a special episode this weekend with Jesus Christ Superstar. Jesus Christ! Come on, now you bla you're blasting out the blasting out the microphone. Shut the fuck up. Hey man, listen, I'd like I like Jesus Christ Superstar. It's a catchy little musical by some little foo fro English composer. I don't like any of his other musicals. Hey, I've never been shy to say I don't like his other musicals either. You like Phantom of the Opera? What you talking about? I do not like Phantom of the Opera. I worked at Phantom of the Opera and I loved working there, and I loved the people that were there, and they were really talented. But what this stuff doesn't have anything to do with box office. Why are you gonna soft track? I'm just saying Jesus Christ, Superstar is gonna be fun. You started that little tangent. I did. Anyways, Project Home Mary is what I was gonna cover. That's why all that went up. Okay, moving forward, number two this week, still kicking arse, is Hoppers adding 12.2 million uh to the Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures cover. Um, that movie has done very well. Uh it is the top-performing family film, and last I checked, but I haven't been able to double check. I believe it's the highest grossing film right now. Uh, in third place, the new release of the weekend. I was supposed to go see this, but uh to quote uh Dusty Rhodes is Hard Times Dead at Hard Times. So I did not make it to the movie theater to watch They Will Kill You, which only made five million dollars against a $20 million budget. Now that's domestic, and I didn't get a chance to check international, but that does worry me a little bit because it was a really cool idea for a movie. I I haven't seen it, I want to see it. I if you guys have seen it, let me know what you thought of it. Um I'm gonna try my best to get there. I might even cover it if I can get there and check this out because it looks like a good looks like a good movie, at least from the trailer. Then fourth place, reminders of him still hanging strong in there with 4.7 million added. Uh that's for Universal Pictures. And in fifth place, the movie that I will uh butcher the title of once again, Durandar the Revenge, added 4.6 million to Moviegoers Entertainment. Um it is not a movie that I've heard anything about from anybody. Nobody I know has seen it, but it is apparently doing very, very well. Um, good good for them. I'm gonna be honest with you. What's she gonna be honest about? Let's hear you run your mouth. Why are you gonna be so antagonistic all the time? Chill out. All right, I'll chill out now. Um, what I was going to say before I was interrupted, I'm not big on Bollywood films. I've mentioned that before. And I started thinking to myself, I need to find somebody out there. If you're in the entertainment business, if you're one of my buddies and you uh do something entertainment related, or you have a degree in India studies, um, I would like you to please uh DM me and let me know. Um, I would like to talk, uh I would like someone to come on the show and talk positively about Bollywood. I don't like it. And maybe you could convince me. We'll cover an American uh movie that's a tribute. Like we'll do the that Adam Salem movie that he did, which is a movie I don't like, but you know, like let's I don't I just don't want to poo-poo on an entire culture just because it's not a culture that you know turns me on. And now you say it don't turn you on, but I've heard you say things about how you like the Indian girls. Okay, yes, I do find Indian women attractive. I just don't like their movies or food. Um not really big on their architecture. Look, not every culture is gonna appeal to everybody, but that doesn't mean it's not a good culture. That's uh this is a way big off dang for box office, but that was what the box office was this weekend. Um weekend totals were 96.3 million. That's down 31.8% from the week before, and I'm expecting it to go up again in the following week because what's coming out this weekend, ooh, buddy. Well, you're gonna say what's coming out this weekend? Well, I mean, I might. If you just like I'll say it later on the show. I don't normally say it now. Well, I think you should say it now. You know what? I'm gonna beat you to it. Super Mario Galaxy. That's what's coming out. I'm excited about it. I know that you should be uh I know that you're excited about it. You did the show a few weeks ago about the regular Super Mario Brothers World Thingama Bobber. Yes, I did. I'd liked it, and I do want to see it, and we'll see if I can get to it. I will definitely be watching They Will Kill You First. Well well, I'll write it then.

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Um look, hey, April Fool's Day. Did you do anything foolish on April Fool's Day? I'm gonna tell you I did not do a collard eating thing on April Fool's Day. Not anything of the goofy sort. You said goofy sort. Gorge. That's not a good impersonation. What are you what was that? Is that supposed to be goofy? Yes, okay. Look, uh, we're gonna come back and we're gonna let's get into the the deep dive. I don't feel like talking about recently viewed. Um obviously we would have recently viewed um the movie we're talking about. Both of us. That's right. Um so we'll see. Uh we'll be back in just a moment. Uh I hope you're having a good evening. What the hell are you doing? Is that supposed to be singing? Um fuck you. And we're back. It's time to get into this little deep dive here. Um, I know you're excited to talk about this. That's right, I sure am. Let me tell you something now. I love the magic. Why do you keep pronouncing it like that? The magique is the mistake. That's what I'm telling you. I am a magician. That's why they call me the Southern Fried Sorcerer. Well, you know, you keep saying that you're a magician, but not a lot of people have seen you do your thing because you have still not done a public performance yet. Well, I'm saving it up, motherfucker. Stop talking all that shit. Speaking of having gotten around to doing something, how's that poor Topher Mack coming along, huh? Okay, okay, that's fair, that's fair. Poor Topher Mac hasn't come out yet. That's my comedy special. For those of you who don't know, I am a stand-up comedian who has been on hiatus since November. Uh that might break soon because uh one of the places I like to test materials just opened back up. It's this little spot in Hope Mills, North Carolina called the Closet Exchange, and every Wednesday they put on the most fun of shows over at this thrift store, and it's a nifty, nifty time in the thrifty store. Are you real proud of that one right there? Are you actually trying to tell me that you thought that that was a clever thing to say? Yes. Yes, I am. Thank you. Fuck you. Uh speaking of antagonizing each other, today's movie is about two people antagonizing each other. It is Penn and Teller Get Killed, a 1989 release, one hour and 29 minutes long. It premiered in the U.S. on September 22nd, 1989. Uh, it was directed by Arthur Penn, who also um his big uh breakthrough director thing was in 1962 with Miracle Worker. He also did Bonnie and Clyde in 1967, which is a pivotal film that will come up when we start getting into history of film uh later on in this podcast. At some point, gonna cover the history of film. Now I'm gonna tell you, I like that right there. I love talking about some history. I like the her story too, you know what I'm trying to say to you. Really? Really? You like her story? I don't I never took you as uh, you know, I I I hear that accent and I think, well, you can hear stereotypes all you want, motherfucker, but I love black people and I think women are are just fine and damn dandy and deserve the equal rights. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Stop being fucking stereotypical. Just cause I sound like this doesn't mean that my brain is full of straw. I'm not the fucking scarecrow. This ain't the wizard of oz. Okay, okay, okay, calm down, chill out. Alright, buddy. So we're talking about this movie, directed by Arthur Penn. But really, i it was written by Penn, Gillette, and Teller, and it feels very Penn and Teller. Uh, but it also feels Penn and Teller filtered through the wrong filter. You're getting a little ahead of yourself, don't you? Got another bunch of stuff to say? You're right. Thank you for peeking over my shoulder. Uh estimated budget for this was eight million dollars, and I have looked and looked and tried my freaking best to find a box official box office uh numbers for this, and I cannot find them anywhere. So what I found may or may not be accurate. It said $213,000 theatrical release. All right, and that is insanely low for a very popular magic act in the 1980s. I mean, they were doing Saturday Night Live and Letterman, they were a big deal. They were not as big a deal as they are now, but they were a big deal. And apparently, uh Box Office Poison as well. We see why they haven't made other movies. Um, of course, I say that, and Pin Gillette was just in an Oscar nominated movie. The one uh with Timothy uh Timothy Shamalamading Dong? Is that how you Char Charlot Charlatan? Charlotte? That's the one. Uh I don't know how to say his name, and you just said all the stupid uh things I would have said, so sure, why not? Anyways, that movie that just came out. Uh Pendulette was in, and I hear he was very good in it. I have not got to see the movie yet, but we will get back to you about it. But I did see this movie, and it was a box office failure, and it was poorly reviewed, and I can see why it was poorly reviewed, and I can see why Quentin Tarantino um s cites this as a movie that's an example of older directors losing their touch, losing their touch, and it does seem old, older than it is. It kind of feels I think it feels like a made-for-tv movie. You know, that is a good point. Made for TV movie. That's I'm going with that. Made for TV movie is what it feels like. Um and uh that's all the like fancy official stuff. Um here's the thing. I'm I'm positive nobody maybe one person listening to this has heard of this movie. Alright, and I've been thinking about how I want to talk about it because of that. I am a big Pen and Teller fan, and I know that you are. That's right. They're the ones that made me want to learn the magic. Pen and teller, Pingolette. I also like his podcast, you know. You ever listen to Pen Sunday School? I listen to Pen Sunday School all the time, wouldn't you know it? I know, I'll be listening to it too. Wouldn't you know it? Um, look, uh this is already off the rails and we're just getting started. Um the movie I I was I was trying to decide how to present this to you guys. Sure, why not uh to y'all. And that's because this movie is not something you've seen. So let me just tell you the plot of it, and I'll get you far enough along that you know what's happening, but I'm not gonna I'm gonna try and not spoil anything. I actually think this movie is worth watching once. But if you like Penn and Teller, you'll probably enjoy this movie because it's very telling of who they are as people. They talk about an important cause to them. That's inside of this. Uh they you can see how they like to antagonize each other because I don't know if you guys know this or not, but to uh not tofer. Well, you know, I know what you're about to say, and Topher and R. T. fit the same Dagnavadon Bill. You're gonna say that Ben and Taylor don't like each other much. Exactly. And uh I'm here to tell ya, neither does me and you. You can go in and suck on a big old toe, a big old rotten toe with athletes foot on it. Would you just stop? What the fuck is that about? Um, look, uh it's April Fool's Day. Did we mention it's April Fool's Day? And we are acting a fool up in here, up in here. Let's stay on track. Let's talk about this movie. Here is the gist of it. Alright, Penn and Teller, who are playing uh themselves in this movie, open up with one of the act uh one of the TV specific tricks that was designed for them to do on Saturday Night Live, and they've only done it on television. They've done it like three or four times ever. They open their movie with it, and it's the one where they they're like, Are we live? And um did you hear that? I was I almost did an impersonation of you there. It was a shitty impersonation if it was an impersonation. I don't sound anything like that, mother lover. I'm a mother lover, you're a mother lover. Oh, let me not uh get in trouble for music issues. Um all right, so they open up with uh this thing where they're hanging upside down, and you can kind of see them and how they do the trick. Uh, which is one of the things that got them famous because it used to be real, real stuffy in the magic world. Isn't that right? It was real stuff. See, it's a big faux pas. Not supposed to do it. You're not supposed to tell people how magique is done, all right? But that started to change around the time of pen and tellers' rise. They started giving away the thing because what they realized, same thing that people are realizing nowadays with the advent of the interwebs, uh, that sometimes the way a trick is done is so beautiful and interesting, it's almost better than the trick. Yeah, you say that, but I've seen some of your shit, all right, and some of it's boring and weird and lame, and I would have rather not known how it was done because it was an incredible trick of the brain. And then once you've seen it, you just you're like, that's stupid and dumb. That's right. And you know, that's observations that were made to you by Penn and Teller, and to me as well. We listened to those podcasts together, as a matter of fact. Yes, we did. Um, and I've co-opted it as my opinion because once I heard it, I went, that's so true. Uh, so Penn and Teller uh sit down. Uh it was almost like a late night show format after that, because this is supposed to be like a stand-in for both Saturday Night Live and for their uh appearances on Letterman. And they say in this, like Penn is like, Oh, I wish that I'm so bored with my regular day-to-day life, I wish someone would try to kill me. And that sets off, I mean, right away, immediately, Teller's reaching over with a knife to slit this man's throat, which is funny because they apparently do not like each other at all. Like they they really um have a ton of mutual respect for each other, and just outside of you're really great at your craft, and you're really great at your craft, and us together is better than us apart, other than that, they apparently are like fuck all the way off. Well, doesn't that sound familiar? Yes, it does, you motherfucker. Um yeah, uh, so that launches off into the movie. I don't want to get too specific, but basically you just see them play jokes on each other. Like throughout the movie, they're pranking each other left and right. There's this great airport gag um about them trying to get it through airport security. Fantastic little moment with that. Um followed up immediately by a counter prank. And then they get into the the one of the big messages that you can tell they wanted people to take away from this was that whole thing about the um about you're talking about the um uh fake surgery stuff. Yeah. And I guess in the 80s it was a big deal. There was a lot of like these like fake religious healers. That's right. And they would use uh very stupid uh, you know, fake thumb, fake finger. I'm gonna pull out a chicken gizzard and make it make you think I pulled your your cancer out. And guess what? I I didn't because uh it's all hokum, it's all malarky. I'm not a real miracle worker. And that's what's funny about the guy directing Miracle Worker. Uh I see what you did there. I didn't do that on purpose, you sorry, son of my biscuit. Alright. Okay then. Um, so the movie plays out and it's a lot of antagonizing, a lot of fun. There's some language jokes in there. Um nowadays Penn is fluent in Spanish, and at the time I think he just had an interest in it, but he he did not know how to speak Spanish at the time. So they had it written in to do some stuff where uh Penn is basically getting called little white bitch. Uh I thought that shit was hilarious. What did you think? I didn't know what the fuck they were saying. That's what I thought. I did, I could tell that she was screwing with them, and I know what gringo means because my sister-in-law, she she's been known to call me a gringo from time to time. And I know your little buddy Nikolai, uh, Mr. Nick the chef, uh, he likes to to uh reference you as what you are, a little gringo over there. I've heard him do it. Yes, yes, that's true, that's true. Um speaking of which I gotta get Nick the chef to come on. Um that would be really fun to get him on. Uh we'll have to see if we can have that timeout. Well, yeah, I'd like for you to get more guests on as well so that I don't ever have to get called again to come in. Okay. Chill, chill out, man.

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Just chill out.

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Um Penn and Teller uh do the thing where they're like identifying this issue that's important to them, and then they also are doing stuff where they're like showing you magic tricks and faking deaths. They touch on uh this idea that they get asked asked a lot about, which is they don't like magic of its time and the way that it was presented. They thought a lot of it was cheesy, so they make fun of that. Um, but it a lot of the stuff in this movie is very subversive. Like, I don't want to get too deep into the specifics because again, I think that you should watch it. Um, it will feel a little cheesy and a little corny in some places because Penn and Teller wrote this script and it's not I mean it's clearly not written by people who do movies. It's it it kind of plays out almost like a like a sketch show a little bit. You know, I see I I think that I can see little like elements of of live people who've done live theater for a while, like Penn and Teller have done, uh, you can see it in that. It almost sort of feels like if Saturday Night Live had a plot running through it. It felt sort of like that in a in a in a sort of roundabout way. Yeah. I mean, also there was that super duper weird thing of um a chunk of it took place in uh Trump's casinos. So this is before he bankrupted casinos, and while they're doing it, one of their practical jokes, Pendillette is over there yelling, like, this is the beginning of the revolution, and who would have thought it's here at Trump Casino where it all began? And like you can't watch that and not think of you know the modern political landscape. Whether you're for or against, it it reads in a very hilarious way to me. I have to agree with you on that one. I thought it was rather, rather amusing. Gave the old tickle to my funny bone. You thought I was gonna say pickle, you sick old little pervert. You I did think I thought you were gonna say pickle. Nobody wants to tickle your pickle, man. Man, I'm on, you know what? Keep on, and I'm gonna get on out of here now. Alright, that's fair, that's fair. Um, you you can see like the stuff Tarantino said about this guy who apparently lost touch, like you can see it. It feels like a made-for-tv movie. Like it's passable. Honestly, to me, it's the kind of thing is the first time I watched it, I was interested because I'm such a pen and teller fan. But usually when I re-watch it, it's because I want something on in the background. And whenever a magic trick comes up, because they perform some of their magic tricks in it, I stop what I'm doing and I watch the magic trick, and then it's back to being background noise. Um so, oh, you know what that means, don't you? Oh, yep, I think I know what you're gonna say. Go ahead and say it. Netflix. It sounds like it's perfect for Netflix. Uh, but what I did not do, and I should have done, is look up where you can watch this movie at. And I'm gonna do that. That's exactly what I'm gonna do right now. That's what you can hear the little type in of pen and teller. Did you know that pen and teller's uh the little like and sign thing? There's a fancy word for that. There is a fancy word for that, but I I'm not gonna be able to help you with that one. Yeah, well, they've copywritten their version of it. They do like a like cut version of it. And uh yeah. Yeah, that's it. That's what they do. Uh looking at streaming, it does appear to be on Prime Video for rent. I watch mine on uh I bought the digital copy on um on iTunes or Apple whatever they call it now that you buy your stuff through. Uh that's how I bought it, and I watch it through that, and I did it because I'm a Penn and Teller super fan. One of my dreams is to see them perform live. I'm gonna tell you what, one of my dreams is to see them perform live. If you go and I don't, I'm gonna be so dang nabbit upset. Do you do you hear yourself? Alright, well, at some point, Topher House, the Hall Wolf Topher House is gonna have to go back to Las Vegas. Um, after all, that is where uh the roots of Topher House begin. Uh, not to get off track again, but do you remember that? I do remember that. We recorded the reboot series over there, and um episode one was in Las Vegas, and it was filmed um three weeks before the Las Vegas shooting is when filming started on it, or work started on it. I think we filmed it a couple of days before, and we had actually went and shot. I remember this. We went and shot, you specifically had gotten B-roll, and you have footage of that area where all the awfulness happened at, literally about three or four hours before it happened. Might not even have been three or four hours, it might have been whatever it takes for you to get from Las Vegas, Nevada to Los Angeles, California, because you were on a bus and you got the footage. Yeah, that's exactly what happened. And uh, it was really weird because we we all used to live over there for a month before moving out to LA. Uh, the first time we lived in LA. We lived in Van Nuys for that little chunk of time. And it was Van Nuys, uh I hate you so much more than I can possibly express. Yeah. Yeah, you do, don't you? Uh, okay, Pen and Teller, um, get killed is what we're here to talk about, and we're not doing a good job of talking about, but it's okay because you've never really seen this movie. If you've seen this movie, I'm shocked. Again, I enjoy the movie for what it is. I think you're better off watching one of their specials, especially if you um watch the stuff that they did in England, or you watch the documentaries that they made where they went to um China and Egypt and India. Those are three very fascinating things that they did. And this was them stretching these legs. They've done other made-for-tv or straight-to-video releases, like I think there's how to fool a friend. Yep, there's how to fool a friend, and then I think there's something called the Invisible Thread. That was one that they'd done. Um, and then of course you got the TV specials that they did. Yeah. Uh, and a lot of those are peppered with uh Saturday Night Live people because Saturday Night Live played such a big part of them like growing. It was like Saturday Night Live and then David Letterman after that uh really helped uh solidify them in pop culture. Then they did this movie in '89, and I swear they must have got real scared that they that they were done after that. Because not well, it was very poorly reviewed. And as I mentioned earlier when we were talking box offices, yeah, you're gonna tell me that that they bit the big one because they lost so much money. They lost almost all the money. That was an absolute failure. It was now. But then they also are the people that is behind um the aristocrats. That's that one about the dirty joke. Yep. And uh, we know a stand-up comic who will eventually be a guest on the show, Ryan Minton. Uh, very funny, extremely offensive. Uh, but if you can get past that, very talented. And um I can't wait to have him come on here. We actually have a planned episode where we're both gonna be talking about a subject, one that I love and he hates. Uh a specific filmmaker. It it he looks like he should love it, and I don't think I look like I should love it. So take that visual stereotypes. You know, you really fixate on that stuff an awful lot. I do. Uh I hope that I don't actually. I'm joking that I do. Uh maybe I do, fuck. I don't know. Uh film director, visual, I don't know. Um speaking of filmmakers, I've always uh as a an auteur, uh pro-autor person, I mean. Um I'm not an Autor yet. I'm just saying that like I believe in Autor Theory, and in this one, I don't think the director is the author of this film. I think it's Penn and Teller. Like they're the stars of it. They wrote it. They clearly just needed someone that knew about the technical stuff, and I don't think he did a good job with the technical stuff. I think it's an ugly movie, I think it's a bland movie. I don't like that they didn't go for widescreen. I I think that they did us all a disservice uh with the format that they did. And uh I like the magic. Magic. Magic magic. Gift of the magi, motherfucker. I don't care how you say it, that's how I say it. You don't believe me, check out my InstaSham. If you go down to my Instagram, you'll see exactly what I am talking about. Hot damn. Okay. Okay. Um you know, I'm not gonna keep this going for too long today. Um, like I said, it's a movie that we don't know. I really just want to do something kind of fun for April Fool's Day. Um and I do think that you you guys and gals should be I'm a dude, he's a dude, she's a dude, should all be at least looking at a a clip or two from this thing because it's it's interesting. To me, it's interesting, but it's interesting in the way that like I watched John Carpenter's first film a few uh weeks ago called uh Darkstar. Not a good movie. But if you're a film nerd like I am, or if you're a magic nerd like I can be from time to time, then I do think that this is a movie to check out. It is not, you know, something that they're gonna talk about for the Oscars, and it's not something that people are gonna, you know, be really jazzed up about. Uh, but you know, it I think there's a place in this world for movies that are just, you know, good enough or adequate. And that's kind of the area that I put it in. What about you? I'm gonna tell you, I I like I like the thoughts behind it. It's very deep stuff if you think about it. It's uh I don't want to get it. You you said you don't want us to spoil the ending, and I don't want to spoil the ending either, if you're not gonna, but there's stuff about how they end it that is very, very uh philosophical. And because it's philosophical, I think there's there's enough to it to chew on it once, maybe twice. And if you if you you probably have your fill at that point, you know, it's not a Kubrick film that you're gonna watch over and over and over again. Now, you and I agree about them damn Kubrick films, they're good shit. Yes, they are. Um, okay. Uh so that's our that's our discussion on this. What about what's coming up? You already mentioned it. Super Mario Bros. Galaxy is coming out. Uh, there's also, by the way, a rumor that they're gonna do a Luigi's Mansion spinoff. I think that would be fun, but only if they like went all in and tried to make it like, you know, a little bit scary. I mean, it's a kid's film, so they're not gonna like make it scary scary, but like, you know, maybe they uh maybe they take it seriously and also still have silliness in it. I don't know. I tell you what, man, I think that sounds like a not bad idea. We're just getting along towards the end of this thing. It must be because we're both tired. That's right, we are tired. Uh tired. Um hey buddy, uh what is this? Uh you were saying something about a special episode this week? That's right. Uh uh we're not sure yet if it's gonna be Friday or Sunday, but Jesus Christ Superstar is gonna drop. It all depends on um getting in. Uh, the first person that we want to be a guest has not gotten back to us. Second person that uh was my backup for it is too busy to do it. So I gotta figure something out. Um, I want to bring someone in to talk about that movie with other than you. Now, see, we were playing nice, and then you say some shit like that. Shiz Nizzy? Yeah, I said shit. I just said it in a goofy ass way. Okay, fair enough. Uh, RT, is there anything that you're promoting? Well, as always, just like you should be doing, I'm promoting uh Topher House. Topher House is the YouTube channel in which uh when we are being active, which we have not been active since. Since you took over, as soon as you took over, we stopped. Hey man, I don't want to hear anything about that, alright? I got stuff out for the anniversary. I got stuff out for that, you know. But you know, we might do some change up and we might start releasing things. Maybe it might, who knows? It's a lot of work. Give us a freaking break. We got a life to live. Okay. But you're still promoting it. Yeah, that's right. You can see us on the YouTubes at the Topher House. Uh, you can just look up Topher House and find one of our videos. We got a collection of short films that we released for the 10-year anniversary of the channel. I think it was 10-year anniversary. Is that what it was? It might have been longer than that, but I think it was 10 years in uh September. Anywho, we did that, and I gotta say it was better than we thought it was gonna be, and it was better received than we thought it was gonna be. It's just a collection of all the short films that you've tried to make. I I I hesitate to call them short films. You know, uh scene. I don't I don't exactly think I've made a short film yet. I guess sort of, but I haven't made anything I'm proud of yet. Well, I don't know, man. I hear that people like the letters that you can't, you know, the letter series was well liked. I think that that looks like shit, but it sounds good because Cheris Bean Duke did so good on that score, and you pair that with the with the performance on the monologue, you know, I think it I it works. To me, it works. Yep, and you know, at the end of the day, Hofer House is worth subscribing to because eventually, eventually, new stuff is gonna come on there. Uh and uh so you know, come and support both of us by supporting that. And uh don't you want to plug your podcast? Yeah, yes, Shadows That Shine, but they already know this, they already know they should be following us at Shadows That Shine on Instagram, that they can look up Shadows That Shine on Facebook and find us uh through the search bar there. And uh engage with us, please. If you're listening to this and you have thoughts and opinions, please engage. Uh if you want to make fun of how grossly stereotypical RT sounds. Hey now, what the hell? What are you trying to say about I am not a yes you are. I'm gonna stop you right there. I'm like, hit the mute button on the microphone. Um folks, uh ladies, gentlemen, dudes, chicks, peoples, humans, uh, aliens, I don't know, whoever's listening to this. Thank you for listening. We're gonna go ahead and get going. Um it's yeah. Uh wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I did forget to say thank you for coming along for the journey, RT. We appreciate having you here. Now I can say it. Bye.